Charlie Kirk Shot In The Neck (and Dead) — Part 2

First thread would still be alive, but for 99 idiots all chiming in to say "He's dead."

Donald finally got his Horst Wessel.

God help us all.

So what's the problem, R1? He is dead.

"His daughter is gonna live without a dad"

Yeah, so are the children in Palestine. So are the children whose innocent parents were sent to El Salvador prisons. And hundreds or parents will live without their children who were blown away by madmen with easy access to guns in classrooms across the country. Charlie Kirk felt nothing for any of them.

Charlie Kirk was a despicable human cesspool.

So are all the others killed by guns. He didn’t give a shit about them.

Maybe he was perfectly happy to go out this way.

That idiot Doja Cat was a fan of his.

He looks gay here in this picture and his wife was 5 years older than him. It looks like another rightwing e-celeb lavender marriage (remember, Candace' husband has gay rumors too). It is all so wicked! A fellow gay was killed and some of y'all celebrate it. Please stahp!

In other news: Paul Pelosi is still alive

The other Part 2 thread, linked here, is getting more traction. Sorry for the confusion.

Part 2:

Is it 8 part thread material now?

Wow, the Hodgetwins. I haven't thought about them in ten years.

I’m very disappointed to see people celebrating his death. You don’t have to have liked him or agreed with his positions to acknowledge that his murder sets a dangerous precedent and will embolden supporters of political violence.

[quote]Blowing political opponents away is not the answer. Polite manners and civilized debate over tea and crumpets like gentleman and ladies is the proper course of action. Be civilized like upper crust Brits and have some class.

Ahem.

R13, if you were murdered, Charlie Kirk would have celebrated your death

He was a vile homophobe

Ive been unfollowing anyone on my Instagram who out of nowhere is posting about Charlie Kirk as if he was some kind of god. Its crazy to see who were secretly maga.

As if the lawsuit filed by 3 former FBI agents wasn’t proof enough, Kash Patel cemented his status as a Grade A dumbass by Tweeting the assailant had been caught…right as the sheriff on the ground said they were at large.

Kirk was a repulsive, disgusting person but I have to agree with Newsom.

This should never happen or be celebrated because it provides a permission structure for anyone with political views who someone else doesn't agree with to be killed too. And round and round it goes.

I wonder if anyone asked him how he would feel if he was shot with a gun and what he would say to that.

I wish he lived but was rendering unable to speak or something. Maybe he would become an advocate against gun violence.

We’re not celebrating. I think most of us are just yawning and thanking karma for finally catching up to at least one bigoted piece of shit.

There are still plenty more spewing hate.

Didn't know much about him. I am now suspicious hearing about the deep ties he has to the Dump administration. Manner of death indicates this was a professional hit. The crazy outpouring of grief from MAGA and Republicans -- and the media -- for a man most of us had never heard of. The sane-washing of a neo-Nazi fascist being referred to as a "conservative activist." Conflicting reports on whether a "person of interest" is still in custody. This assassination reaks of a MAGA deflection. Turning attention away from the Dump administration while also giving MAGA a martyr.

I have no confidence the FBI will conduct a proper investigation.

And three kids were left in critical condition in Colorado

It is way not cool to celebrate his death, and this is in spite of all the horrible antigay screeds he offered up during his time.

This is gonna just make things way worse for everyone.

R16 - I know, right? Unfollow palooza. I’m not celebrating his death - I just don’t care about it. He died being on the side of gun violence, so I guess his death wasn’t in vain? Anyway…

R24, I think that the Michelle Obama creed of going high was obliterated by the last election.

His death needs to fade asap.

No more Confederate statues.

Threads comment: Gum violence!

That's what Trump wants. Pulling Secret Service from VP Harris the message is that's okay to go bananas on political opponents.

Trump just posted a video blaming the “radical left.”

They have no idea who the fuck this shooter is. Trump hired incompetents like himself, good luck finding this person.

Fear.

Ain't That A Kirk In The Head

I can’t believe they haven’t gotten the shooter yet. I thought they announced a person of interest earlier today. The FBI is a joke now.

I agree with R19. He was a misguided asshole and professional rage baiter, but no matter how much I disagreed with him, I still stand by the principle that nobody is entitled to be judge, jury, and executioner over someone's thoughts—about any topic. That is a cornerstone of liberal civilization that I will never sway on. Nobody should be getting shot to death because they dare to speak an unpopular opinion or something that others may disagree with. To be unwilling to stand by that opens a Pandora's box that is extremely dangerous. The fact that his wife and kids were there to witness him get murdered is especially awful.

Good, R34. Now convince MAGA that it works both ways. Not a peep about Hortman, but Kirk is somehow a martyr? Fuck all of them. They created this, and support continued gun violence through their gun culture. He didn’t get shot because of his political beliefs. He got shot because they’ve normalized gun ownership by people who shouldn’t own guns.

Idk what it says about DL if the first thread about this blowhard quickly reached 600 posts in just a few hours. Why do we spend so much time fixating on those that hate us/those we hate?

R35 to be fair, both of those things can be true at once.

I'm REALLY fucking sick of the lectures, John Fugelsang, Bob Cesca, and all the other hand-wringers.

*I* wouldn't have shot the guy, but for goodness' sake, the jeremiads from the liberal Left are getting ridiculous. I really respect the way Michelangelo Signorille and Dean Obeidiah handled their shows and callers earlier today. They didn't go on and on about how very awful for Kirk's wife and children, and on and on about how WE have to take the high road, else we are them. Or how Kirk DESERVED to live so he could grow and change, maybe discover a gay person he cared about, and change his stance on homosexuality. They merely stated the facts as known at that hour, didn't claim to be glad the man was dead, and read quotes from various Kirk speeches. Very even handed.

Go and lecture THEM.

What I really want to know is, what are y'all having for dinner? I'm feeling like tacos.

It's been hours and the only person arrested/detained was released by the FBI. Am I wrong thinking this indicates incompetence or perhaps an inside job? Trump benefits from this in several ways. It removes a rival and diverts attention from Epstein and gives him another excuse for martial law. I fundamentally distrust conspiracy theories, but this seems to convenient.

[quote] I’m very disappointed to see people celebrating his death.

Oh deary, I've been celebrating with glee all evening. The deaths of nasty, horrid people, who bring only evil to the world, should be joyous.

I have no qualms about toasting to the death of that shitty, shitty human being.

#CivilWar is trending on Twitter.

I also celebrate of death of James Dobson, some fucking nasty human being.

When people die, it doesn't suddenly erase the horrible things they did in life

R41 there are PLENTY of people who could use that same train of thought to rationalize wiping your ass of this planet too and justify it for a litany of reasons. Charlie Kirk may have been a despicable person in a lot of ways, but he never shot anyone through the neck or resorted to violence. Our country is descending into chaos quickly and upholding this kind of attitude serves no one.

[quote]#CivilWar is trending on Twitter.

The Civil War started already. School shootings, 1/6, troops in cities

Well, MSNBC fired Matthew Dowd for this comment:

"He’s been one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this, who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to, hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions. And I think that is the environment we are in. You can’t stop with these sort of awful thoughts you have and then saying these awful words and not expect awful actions to take place. And that’s the unfortunate environment we are in.”

[quote]there are PLENTY of people who could use that same train of thought to rationalize wiping your ass of this planet too and justify it for a litany of reasons. Charlie Kirk may have been a despicable person in a lot of ways, but he never shot anyone through the neck or resorted to violence. Our country is descending into chaos quickly and upholding this kind of attitude serves no one.

And yet, when liberals get injured or killed, MAGA makes fun of them

R47 and that's wrong too. This blame game from both sides is destructive and only generating more chaos for all of us.

R46, Firing Dowd is RIDICULOUS. He said the truth.

R35 Whoever did owned a gun and most likely professionally handled a gun. This wasn’t some crazy teenager. The gunman definitely had experience doing this.

There’s a long list of things Charlie Kirk was against but I don’t think the second amendment is the first reason at all.

[quote] Charlie Kirk may have been a despicable person in a lot of ways, but he never shot anyone through the neck or resorted to violence.

He was a real saint, indeed. Celebrating the attack on Paul Pelosi and offering to pay his assailant's bail. Go fuck yourself with your faux sanctimony and moral whitewashing of a person promoting violence.

Wasn't too long ago 2 state senators from Minnesota were shot. And Trump just shrugged his shoulders.

Sorry I'm not down with providing sympathy to the right when they show zero over ours. Worse they say they deserved it.

And they give no fucks about school shootings. So this is not some equal ground.

Thankfully he sacrificed his life so we could have the 2nd amendment. He died for what he loved

And yet who is waging civil war against the left without so much as a suspect? Here’s a hint: they’re being stoked by the 🍊 🤡

[quote]Well, MSNBC fired Matthew Dowd for this comment:

MSNBC needs to be boycotted and put on notice.

James Woods has gone right off the deep end on social media. Threatening violence on the left in post after post. He has even managed to link Kirk's death to Obama.

And Woods isn't the only one who has gone off the deep end. The whole right has gone batshit crazy. They have all decided it's either a Democrat/leftist who has killed Kirk or it's an operation which was organized by Democrats and the left. As far as they're concerned - even though nobody knows who is the perpetrator because the FBI hasn't even caught them - they've decided the shooter is from the left and they want retribution or even better - they want a civil war. I'm worried this is the catalyst they have been waiting for.

Yes, James Woods is the true barometer of the political climate in America. You mean the guy who used to hit on underage girls?

Yes, yes. Mr. Kirk and Trump concocted a plan that he would take one for the love of the country and detract from the Epstein Files. Trump had his goons send some military trained henchmen to shoot him in the throat.

Or! President Trump decided to sacrifice his political fanboy, knowing it would stir and distract shit, rallying people to his cause. There's a secret service man on video next to Kirk giving secret hand jive signals, that's proof. They haven't caught the lone white college kid liberal Luigi inspired shooter, that's also proof.

There's people on other forums saying that it's an amateur shot because no assassin aims for the throat- they aren't accounting for the bullet distance velocity drop. But, JFK was also shot in the back and the throat so who knows.

[quote]they've decided the shooter is from the left and they want retribution or even better - they want a civil war.

There should be a Civil War. Not an actual war, just let the Red states secede.

In this video posted 2 hours ago - Trump makes a four minute presidential statement from the Resolute Desk where he directly blames the "radical left" for killing Kirk and for all political violence and says that he and his administration will work tirelessly to stop the radical left's hatred and violence which he says is directly responsible for ALL the violence in the US today.

I have never seen anything like it from a US president in my entire lifetime. The video is at the link:

How many DLers have watched the close up version of the shooting video?

Has anyone seen it?

Here's the video on YouTube if you don't want to watch at the truth social link:

If James Woods wants a civil war shouldn’t he move out of California first? That’s the heart of blue America. I know he lives there because he was affected by the fires.

The US is full of insane men with access to assault weapons. That’s the problem and no one in power now has the desire change that dynamic.

The banner above his tent read “PROVE ME WRONG” Um, okay. I guess someone just did. Guns kill…even you, asshole.

Here's Ariana Grande taking out Kirk.

If Trump wants to end violence he needs to fire the clowns that run his FBI.

I'm nervous when they catch the person who did the shooting. Because if they are anything but a white heterosexual man, the GOP is going to go off the charts.

They have no idea who did it and are asking for tips from the public. It’s really strange.

How could someone get out of there with all those people around?

Kash Patel is totally fucking incompetent.

Trump doesn't want to end the violence R66! He is actively agitating for the violence to increase. They want the violence to increase so they move further towards implementing martial law and start picking off political "enemies" and anyone else who speaks out against Trump and the Trump administration. See the video at R62.

I dont know, R68, but have we got a big range target for them…

*orange

Well, we Are in a war.

Maybe there is another underground started. Help getting in and out….

Well for heavens sakes, we’re all going to die!

James Woods is also a nasty homophobe who hates gays.

I must be one of the few who has never heard of him nor knows anything about him. Still, I agree with those who say there's no place here in America for political violence.

I would love to see what Charlie has to say about Melissa Hortman’s assassination, but Twitter is such a piece of shit these days it’s impossible to see old tweets.

They haven't even caught the shooter and MAGA is losing it.

Cherie Currie is having a meltdown

This asshole was cheering on the guy who attacked elderly Paul Pelosi with a hammer in his home.

Sorry but you cheered on hate speech and violence, some of it might come back around toward you.

Oh, I think their meltdowns happened a long time ago.

MAGA is weird. My mother told me that Charlie Kirk was shot and I said "So?" and nothing else. No expression of either joy or sadness on my part. And she went off on me! Saying all kinds of shit about the left and that someone should probably take out Whoopi now.

He died with a flip

It was real acrobatic

I was crying so hard

I couldn’t work my Instamatic

R83, that’s rough. I think people are going to have to be careful with this over the next few days.

Most of us know this was wrong, but they are acting like MLK Jr. was dug up and killed all over again.

I don't know, I hate to get conspiracy-thinking, but it's very strange to me that hours ago someone murdered Charlie Kirk, a supposed close friend of the President in broad daylight at a college that presumably has security cameras in a world where everyone is being watched by facial recognition cameras and tracked by devices and they still have no suspect.

Many MAGAs personally identified with him. He articulated their beliefs better than they could, and with a smoothness and dexterity Trump couldn’t pull off. So this hits them hard. It feels like they have been targeted.

Don’t get me wrong. This is what we have suffered many times before. The man said and did vile things and personally made the country more divisive, mean, and angry. But these MAGA folks are genuinely grieving in a very personal way.

They also genuinely don’t see the violence of their own language or their fringe elements. They think only liberals commit violence and hate.

It’s not getting better.

The shooter is still out there and any of these MAGA cunts and agitators could be next. I love that for them.

Sorry you had to hear such ugliness from your mother, R83.

Exactly. I’ve heard nothing but hatred and the word disgusting used over and over again relating to democrats. They don’t see that this might be a good time to diffuse the situation before something worse happens.

r88, Matt Walsh is FREAKED OUT. He canceled his show today.

Laura Loonatic canceled an event too.

R91, I imagine that any of those guys that do these speaking engagements for clicks and rage bait on their socials are shook.

Not only was one of them taken out in a horrible way I think the game just changed. Going to a college and burning snowflakes for monetization just became dangerous.

I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve had to block ads from Tuning Point USA on YouTube.

R92 That one is surprising, I assumed all of the filler she’s injected herself with would be a thick enough protectant layer to save her from any bullets.

It’s also eerie that the shooter is a complete mystery, like it was before Luigi was identified.

And, law enforcement and the FBI and DHS are cut to the bone and filled with loyal idiots. They are only focused on settling scores for Trump and deporting anyone they can. How likely is it that they going to find the shooter?

Kirk was a community college dropout. Ironic that he gets shot and killed at a college. Talk about dropping out for good.

I second what R51 R52 and R53 said.

Looks like our resident FF bomber is in overdrive bombing this thread.

What was on his iPod?

That woman screaming at R79 is frightening. She knows nothing about the shooter but blames democrats? WTF is wrong with her? Too much Fox News?

Nice shot

[quote] In this video posted 2 hours ago - Trump makes a four minute presidential statement from the Resolute Desk where he directly blames the "radical left" for killing Kirk and for all political violence and says that he and his administration will work tirelessly to stop the radical left's hatred and violence which he says is directly responsible for ALL the violence in the US today.

I refuse to watch him, but Reddit is saying the video is AI. We are truly living in dystopian times.

Was Trump's Oval Office address carried live, or was it just a video released by WH? An Oval Office address seems a bit much to me.

People are saying he made a point of listening to the other side, but that’s not what he did. He never really considered other points of view. He just used people as foils for his “irrefutable” “logical” arguments. It was part of his schtick. Purely performative.

Jaydine: "He didn't just help us win in 2024, he helped us staff the entire government."

Who would have thought that putting incompetent, inexperienced people in charge of the FBI and DHS could lead to this?

[bold] Stay Tuned.....[/bold]....MAGA is gonna get real pissed, real fast, as they realize their King can't find the person who shot Charlie Kirk....Rumor Mill says a reward is hours away. Not a good look.

He was racebaiting in the hours before he croaked.

His Twitter is vile. I’m glad he’s dead.

The Yankees held a moment of silence for him.

[quote]Too much Fox News?

One America News and Newsmax. MAGA doesn’t watch Fox.

If they haven't arrested anyone by Saturday you can believe Trump will have an excuse. SPOILER ALERT = It won't be HIS fault. If they don't arrest anyone by Monday, Patel will be at U-Haul looking for some packing boxes. Wait and see. These MAGA loonytunes are losing their shit...

Best news I've heard in a long time, shit on charlie kirk, & I don't care about his fish & chips.

Imagine reproducing with that cretin, ughh...

Current mood: gloating my ass off.

"Be the change you want to see in the world"

The shameless and shameful gaslighting by Republicans will ensure them a place in hell. Donald Trump is responsible for the culture of violence that exists in the political realm.

The Deep State did it.

No, Felonious Fatty did it.

Oh, so this is the thread? I unfortunately watched the video on twitter. I searched his name, because I wanted to know what happened to him. It was not my intention to watch, but the video was everywhere, it was spreading like wildfire. I was horrified. I don't think I'll be able to forget it.

This seems like something Peter Thiel would engineer. I don’t know how many amateurs could make a shot like that from that distance.

These folks want a war. They want trilllions and for us to be ruled by them. Who knows what they will do to achieve that end. Tin foil hat thinking sure but these are unprecedented times.

Another possibility

[quote]a world where everyone is being watched by facial recognition cameras and tracked by devices and they still have no suspect.

Even with all our surveillance technology, nearly half of all murders in America go unsolved.

I watched the up close video and cannot get over the two men standing behind him who look like they're giving signals. It's so obvious.

What’s annoying too is my Facebook/Instagram and YouTube algorithms have somehow re-tuned to become alt-right Charlie Kirk channels. At this point, it doesn’t matter if the shooter turns out to be some MAGA whacko. They’ve already decided this means all-out war on the left.

CK dead.

Oh well.

In the words of the good book they all love so dearly - You reap what you sow.

"I knew Charlie, and I admired his passion and commitment to debate. His senseless murder is a reminder of how important it is for all of us, across the political spectrum, to foster genuine discourse on issues that deeply affect us all without resorting to political violence.

The best way to honor Charlie's memory is to continue his work: engage with each other, across ideology, through spirited discourse. In a democracy, ideas are tested through words and good-faith debate — never through violence.

Honest disagreement makes us stronger; violence only drives us further apart and corrodes the values at the heart of this nation."

He wasn’t a debater!

He preyed upon inexperienced, nervous, unprepared, or dumb college students to “debate” with him to validate his talking points and ideology and use it as a clickbait and sound bites and make them viral.

Crowder and Shapiro did the same, that’s how they got famous.

He wasn’t a debater.

I've never really been a fan of Gav, but boy does that guy have great political instincts. Charlie wasn't exactly a sweetheart, but he managed to reframe it (however much of a stretch it might be) about "honest disagreement"

Civil war is a terrible, ugly thing, especially when based on an authoritarian, fascist move for power using all the tactics that have proven useful for such a campaign.

There are minor times and major times. We have been entering major times in this country for decades, in the same run-up to division and policies of hate that preceded our first civil war. This is not foolish talk: The same arguments and approach were at play then that we see now, with racism, self-interest, cultivation of disaffected whites, and governmental game-playing. The difference now is that there is no Lincoln in the White House. The majority has ceded control to a radical minority.

Saying the means do not justify the ends does not work when one side operates completely by saying the ends justify the means. We have to proceed with our ideals and seek the high ground, but in war - and this is war - the high ground can mean something else entirely.

Non-violent action will result in violent action against us. What is right in that case? Of course a general strike would/will be the best place to start when it's time, once we see how the 2026 election goes. But does anyone expect that the election will solve anything or do enough to restore our foundations?

[quote]Trump makes a four minute presidential statement from the Resolute Desk where he directly blames the "radical left" for killing Kirk and for all political violence

And yet:

Another theory: the shooter intended to miss Saint Charlie, but mistakenly hit and killed him. MAGA hires only the best assassins!

(Remember Trump's Butler, PA "assassination").

I never saw him debate anyone. I saw him talk over and belittle people, especially when confronted with facts and inconvenient truths.

Charlie Kirk hardly deserves Newsome's glowing tribute and I respect Newsome less for legitimizing Kirk's hate speech this way. Can imagine what Kirk would have posted had their positions been reversed?

Newsome should have kept his trap shut.

R124 he was a master debater.......so to speak.

This indeed be like Kirov's murder...a pretext to purge your perceived enemies. Laura Loomer, who has already demonstrated her influence of this Administration, is calling for that.

This man's assassination was a tragedy for the USA. No matter how vile his beliefs and speech were, violence can never be the response.

Now, the MAGA movement is using this as an excuse to go after free speech.

He thought the Civil Rights Act should have been overturned and believed black people were better under Jim Crow.

No one ever talks about the effects the Vietnam War had on the black community by the way. Black men were disproportionately drafted and on the front lines. And then people talk about the collapse of black families and single black mothers of the 70s! Where did all the men go? They all were the first to go on the frontlines in Vietnam and that’s how welfare stepped in.

He wasn’t a debater or free speech activist, he was a RECRUITER for MAGA.

He is one of the reasons why so many Gen Z men voted for Trump.

Without Kirk, Turning Point USA will eventually collapse. He was the personality. I’m sure they could use him posthumously but the man was a social media influencer and content creator and without new content curating, the reach will decline.

R130 - Newsom was being completely political. He needed to be after mocking Dump and Jaydine all these weeks.

One of Nick Fuentes's angry Groypers probably killed him, not the Left.

Maybe it was just a vein popped in his neck from all the bullshit and hate building up inside.

Kirk called the attacker of Paul Pelosi a "patriot" and solicited funds for the attacker's bail on his podcast. Baldfaced support for political violence.

He organized people to go to the January 6th insurrection and spread lies about the 2020 election. Baldfaced support for political violence.

His rhetoric about the LGBTQ community (not just Trans; he said Gay people should be executed) could easily be seen as an incitement to violence.

No, he didn't deserve to be shot and killed, but the whitewashing of his views is a revolting thing to behold.

This is the old guy that got dragged by the police with his pants down. He seems to be a well known local kook.

Well at least we don't need to worry about a GoFundMe page for Charlie who amassed $100 million dollar media empire as a major GOP "influencer."

I don't like political violence. But IMO it seems to me he invited it and instigated it and was one of the main architects of the permission structure for the Extreme Right loonies to wage violence and view people you disagreed with as your enemy.

R137 - exactly. I’m gonna steal that for my socials. Hopefully any MAGA trash idiots drop off.

Yeah… it is beyond dishonest to say Kirk was some noble young conservative intellectual who, gosh, simply wanted to debate ideas in the public square. R137 is accurate and there’s so much more.

R137 do you have an actual source (or quote, even better) about saying all gays should be murdered?

These calls for vengeance are disturbing. I hope Newsom, Mamdani and AOC have adequate security.

If a woman wears a short skirt and gets raped, these Christian holier-than-thou types blame her--"What did she expect? She had it coming, dressed that way."

The same rules should apply to Charlie Kirk. Preach enough hate speech-somebody might eventually get pissed off. They should blame the victim here as well.

R144 suddenly knows how all christians would react. Dear lord, stop talking.

Thank you, R133, for a very thoughtful response. I genuinely mean it.

R145 I was referring to the performative Christians who spew platitudes and wear a cross (like MAGA cunts Pam Bondi and KKKaroline Leavitt) and then embrace hate.

Now go unclench and change your tampon.

R142, here is a source — scroll down for the paragraph on Kirk and GLBT. Basically when asked about sexual minorities he cited a specific verse of Leviticus by number and referred to it as “God’s perfect law regarding sexual matters.” That verse calls for men who lie with men to be put to death.

This dude was totally being groomed for POTUS. That's likely why MAGA is losing its shit.

Ugh, here we go. FBI agents claiming the sniper’s bullets were found engraved with pro-trans ideology.

This sounds beyond far-fetched.

I'm betting the shooter will be found dead. "Suicide."

[quote]FBI agents claiming the sniper’s bullets were found engraved with pro-trans ideology.

I seem to recall that the same was said about the Trump shooter, or some other one. Turned out to be bullshit, of course.

[quote] it is beyond dishonest to say Kirk was some noble young conservative intellectual

I like my intellectuals not to be community college dropouts.

Like clockwork, the right says “We must stop political violence!” And then blames the left (although the shooter’s motives are still unknown).

Trump points to his own shooting and that of the United Healthcare CEO (not political but whatever), neither of which were because of any leftist ideology. MAGA has, as expected, tried desperately to link this shooting to trans. Not all trans are leftist—note Caitlyn.

U shouldn't be taken out for talking about your beliefs.

And he's being awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Of course.

R134, being political is a waste of time and effor when Newsome and his followers are essentially a different species from Kirk and his followers. Kirk's followers think Newsome is full of shit, and Newsome followers know Kirk was full of shit. It just makes Newsome look like like an opportunistic hypocrite to post such a phony statement. Sure as fuck doesn't move the pointer in his favor on the Kirkster scale.

[Quote] U shouldn't be taken out for talking about your beliefs.

Of course not. But you should also be aware that hateful talk has consequences.

[Quote] It just makes Newsome look like like an opportunistic hypocrite to post such a phony statement

The only acceptable comment from a public figure/politician is that such violence is unacceptable. Sure, it’s as empty as “thoughts and prayers,” but he said exactly what he should have said

[Quote] And he's being awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Of course.

Let’s give him the Nobel Prize too!

[quote]And he's being awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Maybe other recipients might consider returning their medals - clearly citing in a list CK's illiberal statements, which are hostile to a civilised modern humane idea of freedom.

Exactly right, R81. And that's all Matthew Dowd was saying... then MSNBC cowards fired him.

Being shot doesn’t suddenly make you a saint and erase what evil you did when alive

While visiting another discussion somewhere not DL, someone posted that Kirk was very adamant and demanding the release of the Epstein files. Is it possible he had some inside knowledge and was taken put? This is starting to look like an inside job by a pro.

[Quote] And that's all Matthew Dowd was saying... then MSNBC cowards fired him.

Exactly. He said nothing that was wrong. He just pointed out that Kirk was known for hate-filled speech that divides us.

Hilarious to read the right wing bot comments to the firing: “Dowd is saying Kirk deserved it!” “Kirk didn’t divide! In fact, he tried to bring us together!” Such nonsense

The American version on the Nuremberg Trials should be so much fun! It's worth waiting a couple of years.

If Trump had him whacked and then gave him a medal, that would be a very "Russian" thing to do.

R157, like it or not, Newsom’s main objective at this point is to appeal to mainstream voters in Pennsylvania and Michigan and Arizona and Georgia. He could be less transparent about it but he has his sights on 2028 and everything he says or does (both the past month of trolling Trump and now this sudden pivot to sober gravitas) comes from that place.

What do you expect Newsom to have said “He deserved it!”

[quote] U shouldn't be taken out for talking about your beliefs.

I don't condone violence, but let's not minimize what he was. He wasn't just some internet shitposting troll. He took dark money and was one of the top propagandists of hateful alt-right propaganda. He was very likely on Russia's payroll. He was the opposite of harmless.

Wanting people dead who have opinions that you consider odious is a slippery slope.

According to that logic, I don't have to care about Palestinians dying because a lot of them are homophobic and misogynist, and wouldn't grant certain people rights if they were in power,. and are therefore fascists.

So who cares if they die? They deserve it.

Is that the logic we are using now?

For some insane reason my brain keeps autocorrecting "Charlie Kirk" to "Charlie Chalk", an 80s kids show. So all these headlines keep making me picture a plastic clown getting shot in the neck.

[quote]Let’s give him the Nobel Prize too!

ME FUCKING FIRST!

According to recent updates the killer was a skilled enough sharpshooter to fatally injure Charlie with a single bullet and was able to blend well enough into the Utah campus' student crowd to not stand out in any way. All of which scream white conservative cis male to me.

Trump live updates: Foreigners who ‘glorify’ Charlie Kirk murder will be barred from US, State Dept says

Per WSJ:

"Investigators found ammunition engraved with expressions of transgender and antifascist ideology inside the rifle that authorities believe was used in the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk, according to an internal law-enforcement bulletin and a person familiar with the investigation."

This is an amateur effort on the killer's part to blame the Left for the killing.

I’m the last person to gin up conspiracy theories, and yet, come on. Finding bullets with alleged “pro-trans ideology” etched onto them? This seems a little too [bold]too [/bold]perfectly teed up for MAGA (and for Trump’s MAGA-infiltrated FBI).

Not saying it’s not possible, but it does not seem trustworthy, at least not yet.

Charlie Kirk was a malignant cunt and his death takes nothing of value from this earth. But did I want him to be murdered? No, I don't want anybody to be murdered.

No, R169, but Newsom could have avoided starting off with "We should all share a deep sense of grief..." Because, no, I don't, and I don't care to be told that I should be.

Agreed R179. “We should all share a rising sense of alarm” would have gone down better and been more accurate. A lot of us fear the consequences of his death, condemn murder of course, and yet we are not unhappy that he ceases to exist.

I concur, R177.

The MAGAts and their puppetmasters are as depraved and sinister as they come. There is nothing I wouldn't put past them.

We have some new photos of the shooter, white guy with an American flag and eagle on his shirt.

Those photos, I don't know... the face looks off, like a mask or nylon or prosthetic could be involved. It's good that they have a target though. I'm praying that trans people end up exculpated on this one when the facts are in. They have been put through enough hell the past couple years.

Just a few hours ago, we were told law enforcement had security camera photos of the suspect that wouldn't be made public for the time being due to high confidence our help wasn't needed at this time. What changed in such a short amount of time? Was Kash Patel's only plan to share the grainy images in a group chat and Palantir or reverse Google image searches would save the day?

[quote]being political is a waste of time and effor when Newsome

Oh, dear

R183 oh don’t worry they’re already blaming it on trans people on twitter. I think every shooting committed by a white person from now on will be. Theres zero burden of evidence and immediately allows them to separate themselves ideologically from whoever committed it. Idiots on here go along with it. Truly bizarre times we’re living in.

It’s going to turn out to be some maggot adjacent white boy.

The maggots won’t care. But they will shut up.

Also, gummy boy shut up about Epstein and told his cult to stop talking about it after the fat traitor told him to shut up about it.

The President is the worst offender for calling opponents evil and claiming they’re trying to ruin the country. It’s the Republicans who insist there can be no bipartisan compromise in Congress. It’s ridiculous to say that calling political leanings fascist is hate speech. So tired of “both sides do it” or even “the Democrats are worse” rhetoric. It just isn’t true.

He was sacrificed by Trump to foment war against any perceived "libs".

State Department warns foreigners in U.S. they could revoke visas for anyone 'praising' Kirk's death

The State Department issued a warning for foreign visa applicants and holders that it will "undertake appropriate action" against foreigners in the U.S. who are “praising, rationalizing, or making light of” the death of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

^ Where are the free speech absolutists?

Batboy is verklempt. MARY!

WTF? The Kirk shooting is a reason to ignore the freedom of speech?

State Department to 'take action' against 'foreigners' making negative comments about Kirk

In a post on X, Deputy Secretary of State Christopher Landau said that the State Department will "take action" against "foreigners" in the U.S. who he said are "praising, rationalizing, or making light of" Kirk's assassination on social media.

"In light of yesterday’s horrific assassination of a leading political figure, I want to underscore that foreigners who glorify violence and hatred are not welcome visitors to our country," Landau wrote on X. "I have been disgusted to see some on social media praising, rationalizing, or making light of the event, and have directed our consular officials to undertake appropriate action. Please feel free to bring such comments by foreigners to my attention so that the @StateDept can protect the American people."

In his post, Landau did not clarify what particular group "foreigners" referred to. He also didn't mention what "taking action" against people would look like and whether that could include deportation.

[quote]In his post, Landau did not clarify what particular group "foreigners" referred to.

The brown ones.

Hegseth called Kirk a “Christ followers.”

Sure, bud. Just like Christ

Can we talk about guns now or is it too soon?

I suspect that this will not be the last of these types of events.

Look.. He was making a huge issue of the Epstein files. He wanted them released. SO IMO t hat seems like the reason he was offed. Now they want us t o believe it was about Trans.... This is about Epstein.

What’s there to say, r-96? Nothing can be done that would be effective. The Supreme Court already ruled. Guns are everywhere. If a person wants one they’ll find one no matter what. A lot of these people use their family member’s.

They're already spinning it like it's about Trans but Iwould bet my First Born Son it's about Epstein and it was a planned, deliberate hit made to look like it's abut Trans. We need to remind people that Kir wanted the Epstein files released.

He was talking about gang violence when he was shot.

R200 is mentally ill.

It took them 4 or 5 days — and a crucial citizen tip-off — to finally identify and catch Luigi.

This might take a few more days as well.

MAGAt incel trying to frame trans.

[quote]It took them 4 or 5 days — and a crucial citizen tip-off — to finally identify and catch Luigi.

Nobody really cared about that dead CEO, so they probably weren’t putting a ton of effort into that investigation.

This is far more embarrassing for Trump-licker Kash Patel to fail so badly at catching a MAGA assassinator.

It’s breathtaking how many people here who claim to be democrats, sound as unhinged as MAGA right now.

Unfuckingbelievable!

Some are trolls, but some are emotionally and/mentally unwell, in earnest.

If you’re anywhere in physical proximity of these “democrats”, please protect yourselves just as you would around MAGA.

Politics isn’t about hatred. Politics is and remains about doing the best for constituents around America, & we will never get back to that principle, with people who claim to be dems, yet could easily be mistaken for an unhinged lunatic if a couple of names & words were switched around in their hateful screeds.

Please take care of yourselves today, DL. ❤️

Gavin seemed a little over the top in praise. It looks ingenuous after the tough talk.

R201, more precisely, he was distracting from a question about the number of mass shooters in America:

[quote]The attendee informed him that the total was five and continued: “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?”

[quote]“Counting or not counting gang violence?” Kirk replied before, just seconds later, he was struck by the bullet

He was asked about mass shooters (which clearly referred to people shooting up movie theaters, concerts, schools, etc.) and tried to deflect to gangs. Gang violence is a different type of crime, but he couldn't let the rhetorical opportunity pass.

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Guess which persona non grata is coming to NYC tonight to watch the NY Yankees play the Detroit Tigers. Maybe it's his way of commemorating September 11, the day on which he bragged his building was now tallest in the City.

SMH

"Politics is and remains about doing the best for constituents around America"

And yet all Charlie Kirk and his supporters did was spread hate and lies. If you care about actually helping anyone, you should not lionize Charlie Kirk

veritas

I’ve been told God saved Trump so he could continue his great work. I guess Charlie Kirk didn’t have much to offer, since God chose not to save him.

Good lord. I haven't seen an outpouring of grief like this since Bob Saget died. I'm just as confused now as I was then. It's wonder if it's the same people.

Will the Mahatma Kirk lie in state in the rotunda of the capitol?

^ he wouldn't be the first pile of MAGA shit to wind up there.

R187 it’s going to turn out to be some maggot adjacent white boy.

you rang

^ Pray he's not a homosexualist

Why would MAGA kill him?

I think its a pro-palestine supporter.

I foresee an Eternal Flame at Arlington

R219 I think you're a v8fairy sock.

I’m not lionizing him at all, R211, so your comment is pure BS.

I repeat: There are people on this board and other social media platforms who claim to be democrats, yet present themselves just as extreme & unhinged, right wing MAGA would.

This is not OK. This is an easily avoidable trap that we needn’t fall into. We should not behave like the people who irrationally hold us democrats responsible for this man’s death.

As soon as we slip in slide right into the mud with them? We become them.

We become them when we pretend someone like Charlie Kirk was anything other than a worthless asshole

[quote]What changed in such a short amount of time? Was Kash Patel's only plan to share the grainy images in a group chat and Palantir or reverse Google image searches would save the day?

MSNBC just cataloged the FBI's blunders so far in this investigation. A reporter stressed that things often change quickly in investigations like this and that it's Patel's conduct so far that's unusual (which is a polite way of saying "unprofessional"). Another panelist said it was only 2.5 hours that passed between this morning's "We don't need help identifying the person of interest" FBI announcement and its "Please help us identify him" photo release.

[quote] I think its a pro-palestine supporter.

Wearing a US flag shirt with a bald Eagle on it?!?

Did they intentionally leak this bad info?

MSNBC just interrupted itself to say Kash Patel's on his way to Utah and that's one of the reasons this afternoon's press conference was delayed.

GooGooGoogly Eyes is heading to Utah for a late-afternoon press conference, postponing the previously scheduled 3:30pm gathering.

R225, they’re going to wear that not to stick out. Are you an idiot?

[quote] MSNBC just cataloged the FBI's blunders

It’s MS Now.

[quote]Good lord. I haven't seen an outpouring of grief like this since Bob Saget died.

Wait. Bob Saget’s dead??! 😵

I will stop watching msnbc. They’re cowards. @R46

[QUOTE] It’s MS Now.

Why do you keep saying this? What do you mean?

NBC changed the name from MSNBC to MS.

R229 it does stick out. Plain black would have been less of a way to stick out. What are you basing the person being pro Palestine on?

Why would MAGA kill him?

Obviously you don't know any of these freaks. THEY ARE OBCESSED WITH PEDPOHILLA . 24/7 all they think about is who is a child rapper. Turns out it's EVERY ONE ! (mostly the guy in their mirror). Once their great leader was busted as a Epstein's wingman Kiddy Diddler they lost their shit. Anyone including Chukie was a pedo by association with Shitler. Guarantee this skinny dweeb is one of these disaffected MAGA. Also guarantee what they'll find on his hard drive.

Nothing makes this micro peen incels harder than the thought they are offing a pedo. It's their ticket to heaven.

[quote]Well at least we don't need to worry about a GoFundMe page for Charlie who amassed $100 million dollar media empire as a major GOP "influencer."

Oh, you sweet summer child.

The grift is at $375K right now. Shooting for a million (pun intended).

[quote]NBC changed the name from MSNBC to MS.

The traditional MSNBC branding is still what's plastered in the corner of the screen during its programming.

[quote] all they think about is who is a child rapper.

A child rapper? Like LL Cool J?

At least he'll no longer have to fear boarding a plane and discovering the pilot is black.

[quote]This man's assassination was a tragedy for the USA.

Wow. That's a stretch!

R240 like me old beotch

“His legacy will be great for all if his death persuades more people that political violence, like riding tigers, is a sport of fools, and that the beast will devour us all if not confined again to its cage, and soon.”

We just need to put Lt. Tony Mullins and Maj. Caroline Mason from The First 48 (Nashville) on the case.

Those two are bloody brilliant!

R217 I'd bet a years supply of lithium that is a Trans pro Palestinian.

[Quote] Politics isn’t about hatred. Politics is and remains about doing the best for constituents around America.

Oh, sweet summer child, you must be new to this country.

Don't confuse what it should be with what the reality is.

I haven't had time to read both threads, so apologies if these have been discussed, but I just did a quick scan of news while eating lunch and...

1) Rep. Andy Ogles, R-Tenn., is introducing a resolution to give Charlie Kirk a posthumous Congressional Gold Medal, the highest award that can be given to a civilian by Congress, following his assassination on Wednesday.

2) In a letter to speaker Johnson, Luna, who represents part of Pinellas County, asked for a statue of Kirk to be added in the U.S. Capitol.

3) Afterward, Vance will fly Kirk’s casket and family with him aboard Air Force Two from Utah to Arizona, where Kirk made his home.

4) During remarks at the Pentagon, Trump said he would posthumously award Kirk with the honor at a later date. The United States’ highest civilian honor, the Presidential Medal of Freedom is awarded by presidents to people who have made significant contributions in a variety of areas, including culture and public service.

5) Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth led a prayer with US troops for his “dear friend”, the political activist Charlie Kirk.

THIS IS INSANITY!!!

Insanity, and yet par for the course. It’s war 24/7 with these people. Always be glorifying Trump and MAGA, always be attacking or hurting or trying to offend Trump’s/MAGA’s declared enemies.

Will the Vatican also bestow sainthood on Charlie Kirk?

[NBC changed the name from MSNBC to MS.]

[The traditional MSNBC branding is still what's plastered in the corner of the screen during its programming.]

The actual name change is expected to take effect later this year; date to be announced.

Total insanity is right, every day of 2025 has been a full on nightmare, snark at his idiocy at first but it just gets darker and darker. Glorifying a hateful little Nazi podcaster? With no opposition? WTF

The whole right-wing "debate" machine is a grift to turn listless young men into sycophants for fascism while they make bank.

It sure is, r248.

They can heap all the bullshit honors they want on his putrid corpse, but it doesn't change a real thing because that evil Charlie Kirk is still :::::: drum roll ::::::: DEAD AS A FUCKING DOORNAIL.

If I believed in hell, I'd hope he was roasting there in torment.

[quote] The whole right-wing "debate" machine is a grift to turn listless young men into sycophants for fascism while they make bank.

Excuse me?

I'm the far left podcasters in high-capacity concern trolling Democrats about "what they need to do!"....

Exhausting.

As Tina says in the musical of The Demon Seed "Ruthless" when asked by her mother why she isn't crying over her third grade classmate's murder, "Why should I cry? I didn't get killed."

The left’s reaction to Charlie Kirk’s shooting shows how far gone we are as a country. There is no one willing to say the truth about Charlie Kirk

[quote] God chose not to save him.

Satan needed a new minion.

Charlie Kirk had a hideous moon face and a gummy smile.

Damn this dude really did go out the way he wanted us all to be. Good for him!

REALITY CHECK FOR ALL THE" VIOLENT LEFT" SHILLS

The man who targeted and killed Democratic State Representative Mellissa Hortman was a Trump Supporter.

The man who targeted the home of Democratic Gov Josh Shapiro was a Trump supporter.

The men who wanted to hang Mike Pence on Jan 6 were Trump supporters.

The man who targeted and killed the son of Obama appointed Judge Esther Salas was a Trump supporter.

The man who tried to kidnap Nancy Pelosi and assaulted her husband in their home was a Trump supporter.

The men who were convicted of trying to kidnap Gov Gretchen Whitmer were Trump supporters.

The man who sent pipe bombs to the homes of Obama & Biden was a Trump supporter.

There is no equivalent or even similar list of Obama or Biden supporters who have carried out similar murders,attempted murders or violent attacks.

Horst Wessel. Here we go.

The sweet irony of this gummy faced freak getting g shot while trying to deflect a question on gun violence is the chef’s kiss to this whole fucking thing.

R238 I didn't intentionally copy the phrase you used in my comment. I read it, it stuck in my old brain and came out as if it were fresh material for this thread. My apologies.

R261 BTW They were ALL White ,Non Illegal Immigrants, and not TRANS.

Fuck Gavin too @R123

Since none of us has a clue as to who the shooter is and everyone is throwing out theories, here is mine:

Just looking at the shooting itself, it was so clean - one shot and not several rounds - that it seems like a professional hit. This was planned and the target was put in place. When it comes to violence, Democrats are known for angry letters, shaking their fist, smashing windows and maybe setting a car on fire. They are not military grade sharp shooters in the middle of Utah. This is not an unhinged person. This is a professional.

As posters mentioned above, the extreme far right was fractured and going after each other. Nick Fuentes and his Groypers hated the fact that Charlie Kirk had caved in so quickly to not looking into the Epstein files. They felt he was defending pedophiles. Trump could not shake the Epstein files no matter what he did and the biggest ruckus was coming from a part of his base going after the other. A lot of new evidence was just starting to come out - The Birthday File.

I think Charlie Kirk, again as mentioned above, was a sacrifice. You don't kill your enemy. You kill your friend and blame it on your enemy. And now look, the base is united, or so it looks. The over-the-top mourning and rending of clothes is so deafening, anyone even asking about Epstein now can't be heard and looks crazy. They will drag this Charlie Kirk stuff on until people are wailing and gnashing their teeth in the street, gouging their eyes out. It will be long enough until we move into the next phase of whatever is next on the agenda.

At first I thought the killer wouldn't be caught. I thought the person would remain a shadowy figure that they can put anything they want on. But now with the release of the picture, I think we are going to see a Lee Harvey Oswald ending. The killer's killer is probably being radicalized to take out Charlie's killer now. They will catch the killer, he/they/them will be everything they want he/they/them be, and the killer will be killed in transport.

Just spit ballin'.

That shot was just WAY TOO CLEAN, and the person disappeared into thin air, like a professional.

R238 the Gofundme for Kirk's wife and kids is now at USD $540,778. The man was worth $100 million. What are people thinking?

He followed in the steps of Rush Limbaugh. It's ALWAYS about making money. Best way to get money? Create grievance and revenge for white men. Especially men. Remember Rush and his "Feminazi" shit? And the racism? And being Gay? Rush was a multi millionaire thanks to men. And he got the Presidential Medal of Freedom also.🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮😡😡😡😡😡 They are ALL evil.

There's so much about all this that I hate, but the biggest thing is that it's got me questioning my own sanity.

I'm looking at this video of the statement trump put out, and it looks like AI.

R267, well argued and I’m inclined to agree. The shooter fired a single bullet from 200 yards away and hit Charlie Kirk right in the jugular vein. Then made what looks like an unusually skillful and planned-out getaway. I don’t know a single MAGA-hating “lib” (and I know a few thousand) capable of that.

Time will soon tell.

I predict that in 24 hours the news will be back to Epstein and the shitty economy.

I always picture hitmen more nattily dressed.

[quote]Fuck Gavin too @[R123]

Nah, Gavin is being political. Desperate times require desperate measures.

They just talked about the killer's appearance on Ari Melber's show. For a split-second before he composed himself, you could see Melber's spirit almost leave his body when panelist Jim Cavanaugh, a former ATF agent, questioned whether the killer's obvious disguise was meant to conceal their gender.

Haven't read the full thread, so apologies if it's already been posted, but this is reportedly the shooter's vantage point.

[quote] He thought the Civil Rights Act should have been overturned and believed black people were better under Jim Crow.

This is from a white male college dropout from a Chicago suburb who was born in 1994. How would he even know anything about Black people, much less how Black people lived 30 years before he was born? He was a grifter, and the grift was a right-wing, white supremacy grift intended to radicalize lazy, dumb, underachieving young white men. Convincing them that their failure in life is because Black people were 'given' the opportunities that belonged to white people. All to distract from the truth -- the oligarchy is eliminating traditional pathways to prosperity for all Americans. There will be no middle-class, just the ultra-rich with the rest of us completely beholden to them.

BTW, Kirk had a net worth of $12 million dollars, so he was laughing all the way to the bank. Well, until yesterday.

[quote]The shooter fired a single bullet from 200 yards away and hit Charlie Kirk right in the jugular vein. Then made what looks like an unusually skillful and planned-out getaway. I don’t know a single MAGA-hating “lib” (and I know a few thousand) capable of that.

I know anti-MAGA liberals who are capable of the marksmanship and getaway logistics, all of them veterans. But this isn't how they'd use those skills.

[Quote] Nothing can be done that would be effective. The Supreme Court already ruled. Guns are everywhere. If a person wants one they’ll find one no matter what. A lot of these people use their family member’s

If you say this about guns, cant we also say it about drugs, abortion, murder, theft…. Why bother having laws that limit any of that, right?

According to an article I read but can no longer find, apparently, with today’s gun technology, you don’t need to be a trained sharpshooter to get such an accurate shot from far away

Looking at the picture of the suspect, I think it’s a female

I do too R281. The wide hips are a giveaway. It looks like a thin woman wearing baggy clothing to me.

I have not read all of this thread so forgive me if this has been said already.

I was watching our local news tonight (Ottawa) and they reported on Kirk’s death. They showed a clip of Trump speaking to his murder and the first thing out of his mouth was to blame the “radical left.” This guy doesn’t get it - or care. Things are never going to change in the States with one group always blaming the other. They do that here in Canada as well, but our Prime Minister is nothing like Trump. I’m old enough to remember previous presidencies. Presidents tied to unite the country, not create further divide it. Kirk will be made a martyr, by Trump and the conservatives.

Maga is addicted to Rage Porn that Fox shows 24/7

[quote]Kirk will be made a martyr, by Trump and the conservatives.

Up there with St. Ashli.

The shooter presents male. Possibly Asian, Native American or Hispanic. The tip of his nose is interesting…

Appears to be wearing facial prosthetics, or has facial fillers, (easy to spot under the right lighting), and has a back pack.

Possibility of a blonde wig under the hat.

Not a woman. The fingers are not of a female

That’s all I’ve got.

I’m probably waaay off.

Bless, r238 dumb little heart.

[quote] They showed a clip of Trump speaking to his murder

Oh, dear.

I agree that the "suspect" looks male. Skinny, young male.

[quote] I do too [R281]. The wide hips are a giveaway. It looks like a thin woman wearing baggy clothing to me.

If the shooter were a cisgender woman...I'd be tingling all over. She would be an instant star. She could be on the cover of Vogue in gold, bedazzled handcuffs.

Don Jr hopped on Megan Kelly's "show" to offer his wisdom:

[quote]Trump Jr. also claimed transgender individuals are probably responsible for other 'mass killings' that the public is not aware of 'because you're not allowed to talk about the truth.'

[quote]'I can't name, including probably like Al-Qaeda and the Taliban, a group that is more violent per capita than the radical trans movement,' Trump Jr. told Megyn Kelly.

[quote]'I'm sure people are totally sane after jacking themselves up on hormones given to them by some rainbow hair freak doctor because they think men can somehow magically become women,' the president's son added.

Do Megyn Kelly next, please!!

Kirk had a funny shaped head and a terrible hairdo. Like he was in the local community college production of Grease?

More blood and fluid spewing than the 'Ol Faithful geyser.

He flunked out of community college. More like adult school production.

The police are saying that it's someone college-aged. How can someone that young be a sharpshooter?

The gorgeous Father Casey has something to add to the conversation.

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Oh, look, they made shit up to smear trans people

The vantage point as show n in r276's link is straight on, facing Kirk. I did not see Kirk turn his head, yet it seems as if the shot came from the side and passed through his neck? How to explain this apparent conflicy??

R299, it must be another day that ends in Y!

If that is the vantage point shown in r276, that would have been a pretty easy shot with scopes and rifles we have today.

Even the stuff that civilians have access to would make that not as difficult as you would think. Especially if the person had any sort of experience shooting - in or out of the military.

Roll that beautiful bean footage!

[quote]Kirk will be made a martyr, by Trump and the conservatives. - Up there with St. Ashli.

To be fair, the Left has their own dubious saints…like George Floyd and Marsha Johnson.

Sheesh!

Patel looks high as a kite in that link @ R298.

Meth, coke, or ketamine?

[quote]Meth, coke, or ketamine?

yes

[quote] To be fair, the Left has their own dubious saints…like George Floyd and Marsha Johnson.

The falsest of false equivalences….

Gang shootings qualify as mass shootings if three or more people are injured or killed.

Has Charlie's neck released a statement?

Don Jr is an asshole.

[quote]Has Charlie's neck released a statement?

"Sploosh."

R311, gurgle, gurgle!

So our tax dollars were used to transport his remains and his family to Arizona on Air Force Two.

It is very weird that his very last word was “violence”.

R314, I'm just so very glad that his final words are being debated on a porny website by a bunch of homos. 😂 It's what he deserves, wouldn't you say?

Who gets Charlie’s ratty Koren wiglet?

I'm very curious about the killer's intended target on Kirk's body. Hitting the jugular or carotid kept the mess to a minimum and possibly severed his spinal cord, keeping his suffering to a minimum, as well as mitigating the levels of audience trauma. Was that the point?

If the killer had hit his head, the explosive impact would have showered dozens with blood, brain, and skull matter for yards in circumference, leaving a lot of beachy wave-haired girls picking out dried matter from their scalp and mouths for years to come.

Why didn't he go for a head shot? So as to leave people minimally traumatized while still getting the job done? Or maybe he wasn't such a good shot and missed the larger skull that had more explosive potential?

[quote] Why didn't he go for a head shot?

There was not much there. Not even enough to graduate from a community college.

Has somebody made a gif of his untimely "unaliving" yet?

Head shot is not a guaranteed kill. Look at Gabby Giffords or Mary Jo Buttafuoco.

The pictures of the third (!) person of interest suggest a contract or military person. It has Luigi 2 vibes.

I'm thinking that bullet severed his brain stem and he likely never felt a thing.

Why is a foreign government giving information to us about the shooting? What could they possibly know?

What if POI is US Army? It’s amazing how little they know.

They say ol’ Charlie was a Type A personality, but from what I’ve seen it’s more like Type AB negative.

I'm truly shocked that the FBI with its Keystone Kops leadership still hasn't cracked this one.

[QUOTE]Head shot is not a guaranteed kill. Look at Gabby Giffords or Mary Jo Buttafuoco.

They were both shot at close range with smaller caliber, more easily concealed weapons.

From 200 yards away, a long gun's projectile's velocity and generated heat will explode and disintegrate a target upon impact. Especially if it's the bullet's hollow-tipped intent is to explode the victim from within.

I'm old enough to know when police departments loathed and lobbied against that type of ammunition. Like way back in the early 90s.

Charlie was a type F personality, as in all F's in community college. What loser flunks out of cc?

I just think it's so fitting that Charlie's one lasting legacy will consist of bleeding out on camera for the entertainment of billions of gore hounds.

🖕 Amy Fisher!

I'm an American of legal drinking age, but I never even heard of this man before yesterday. I turned on the TV and saw the breaking news and had to look up who this Charlie Kirk was. I guess that's the result of hardly ever watching news channels or following politics. However, this event makes it a scary time to be a celebrity, sports figure, politician, etc. There is always some nut out there with a grudge or mental illness.

Too bad Kash Patel recently fired the head of the SLC FBI office.

R331, consider yourself lucky if you hadn't heard of him until now. He was filled with hate for gays, trans, immigrants, black people, and women

They have video of the shooter running across the roof and jumping off and then running across a parking lot. They have a palm print, finger prints and a shoe print. They have the gun. It shouldn't be too long until they catch him.