The Winter of Our Discontent in Genoa City

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Dear Camryn Grimes: You are FAT. Do something about it. Jesus Christ.

Is he playing with himself in that pic?^

So, Jill comes to town to attend Devon and Abbey's wedding, listen to Victor's proposal regarding Chancellor and fire Billy.

But she doesn't have time to go visit her grandson, Chance, while she was setting foot within Genoa City limits for the first time in 18 months.

R4 Don't know if Jill sees Chance, but she's still in town and is said to be in this coming Tuesday's episode.

Has Traci been on lately?

R6 Traci and Alan were at the Abbott house the day Ashley came home from Paris to attend Blabby's wedding, and they were also at the wedding at the NuOldRanch.

I didn’t see Jill shit and wipe her ass either but I’m sure she has.

Only so many minutes in a show.

Thanks R7!

Traci is still hoovering up the buffet at the NuOldRanch

As to be expected, Traci is also in the preview for this coming week. It's Thanksgiving after all. Pumpkin pie for Alan!

And are children not allowed at the Newman Thanksgiving? You'd think there'd be about four or five more grandchildren there besides ClairEve to listen to Nikki while she sucks on a lemon and gives her little speech.

And what the hell is that on Amy's head? Did that poor dead animal have a name? It looks more like a prop than a wig.

Did they rework YoHarmony's wig?

Who's the good looker at OP?

Actor Conner Floyd who plays "Phillip 'Chance' Chancellor IV."

Thanks R14!

I enjoyed the scene between Sharon and Adam. Even though Sharon refused Adam's offer of help, it was good of them to play the history there.

Given all the crimes Granny Syphilis has committed, her going on and on to Michael about "justice" was rather rich. .. It was just last year that she herself should have been locked up for her scheme with Jeremy Stark to frame Dianejenkins for her "murder." .. At the time, we heard Chance say that the one EMT (who was in on the caper) was thrown from the ambulance, but he added that the driver was trapped inside the burning vehicle and he couldn't get to him. Nobody ever mentions that.

On a funnier note, I laughed at LaBaldwin just standing there listening to Syph drone on with the hospital cupboard behind him saying "BEDPANS" on it. .. I'm remembering that Bill Bell was known for his "bathroom humor." TV Guide even did a column about it once.

And what hell is pathetic looser Billy Boy Abbott going to do to The Old Goat? At this point, Billy comes off like Wile E. Coyote. .. Perhaps Abby will tell Tessa to give Billy a job as a bartender at Society where he can put Ex-Lax in Victor's drink and give him a bad case of the shits. .. Does anyone remember when Brad Carlton tried to do this to Professor Tim Sullivan, and it backfired with Brad dunking the spiked beverage himself?

Finally, what was that get-up Esther was wearing today? Does she wipe down the tables at Crimson Lights with those sleeves? For a 77-year old working at a coffee house she looked ridiculous. I hope she was at least sensible enough to be wearing her orthopedic shoes.

Do people who confess to murder usually get out on bail?

R17 stranger still with the shit writing.....Who would go to Crimson Lights knowing the Owner is a suspected murderess??? Wouldn't you think the local GC press, Newman Media lol, the Chronicle be exploiting someone connected to the Newmans who was arrested for murder? And no one in GC has been informed Aunt Jordan has been let out, or escaped???? These aren't holes in the writing, they are craters.

[quote]And no one in GC has been informed Aunt Jordan has been let out, or escaped????

Ian Ward switched out Aunt Jordan with a lookalike, so no one in the prison has noticed the real Jordan isn't there.

[quote]Wouldn't you think the local GC press, Newman Media lol, the Chronicle be exploiting someone connected to the Newmans who was arrested for murder?

Leanna Love should be all over this story.

LOL R19 - I hope you are kidding? Someone willingly took Aunt Jordan's place? LOL. I hope near 80 year old Ian has final showdown with near 90 year old Victor, where they duke it out while Aunt Jordan holds Nikki at bay with a butcher knife. The Young and the Restless really lives up to its title!

[quote]I hope you are kidding? Someone willingly took Aunt Jordan's place? LOL

Not kidding. That's what Ian said last week when he and Jordan were discussing which one of them could safely go out in public. Ian is legitimately out of prison, while Jordan is only out because Ian subbed in a lookalike for her.

Ian told Jordan to dig into her magic bag of disguises, so I'm guessing she'll put on her Baseball Cap of Invisibility and a pair of glasses from Dollar Tree and no one will notice or recognize her.

I'm shocked that they're wasting Conner Floyd as a cop. He's a Chancellor, Jill's grandson, and really attractive. Why can't they find a story for him?

R17 They may be using the term "murder," (it's far more "dramatic') but legally, I think what Sharon was confessing to was some kind of voluntary manslaughter or second degree homicide. (Sharon has said she didn't go there intending to kill Heather, so there was no pre-meditation, which would be first degree murder. I don't know about Wisconsin or Walworth County, but there are jurisdictions that allow bail for types of manslaughter. In L.A. county, the guideline for voluntary is $100,000 and involuntary is $25,000. In any event, the D.A. will have to figure out what they want to formally charge Sharon with and she will enter her formal plea at the arraignment. With the evidence about the missing phone now coming to light, Michael and Nick might be able to get her to change her addled mind about confessing to anything.

[quote] Why can't they find a story for him?

R23 Chance's story should revolve around an underpaid police detective who begins an Only Fans page in order to supplement his income so that he can continue to pay the membership fee at the GCAC and dine at Society. And what happens when someone alerts his superiors to his activity?

WHY did I think Ray Wise was dead?

Pairing Chance with unlikeable Summer was a stupid move. I liked him with Sharon, who just needs to move off the Newman Ranch,

Chance may be an "underpaid police detective," r25, but he's a Chancellor. He has inherited plenty of money, and receives plenty more every quarter without having to lift a finger. I'm glad to see him return to police work. He enjoys it, and nothing is duller in GC than unending corporate espionage.

[quute]And what happens when someone alerts his superiors to his activity?

Since the Genoa City Police Department has one employee -- Chance -- I don't think he needs to worry about this.

I preferred Chance with Adam, and it's possible that we still haven't heard all of the details of went down between these two in Vegas. Amnesiac Adam was living as "Spyder," and Chance was living deep undercover using an alias. The perfect opportunity for both of them to explore their bisexual side.

Smug Nikki today made me want to reach inside the screen and throttle her. Jill's lame excuse to Billy didn't make sense either. She should have just said Victor paid me a mint and here's your share. Where has Lily vanished to? Did she even get to confront Jill?? More holes.

[quote] Jill's lame excuse to Billy didn't make sense either.

I was rolling my eyes through that scene. Jill's action here comes off so contrived and false.

r16 r18 is a deranged Soap Opera Central poster as well.

R33 That would be FALSE, Sherlock.

Never have I ever, and I'm not R18.

R31 Billy told Miss Piggy and the cunt Jill off good today. I was actually clapping for a second or two. Lily and Jill talked at the wedding about selling to the crypt keeper, but what can she do. Lily will just go back working with her prick brother who has to have everything his way and Nate. I’m not the biggest Lily fan either nowadays, so fuck her too. I honestly don’t know what Billy and Phyllis can do to take Victor down. I’d love to see it happen, but there might be a who shot Victor story coming up. Actually love to see Victor in a wheelchair, barking orders in a diminished capacity. So Billy can push him off a cliff lol. Plenty of suspects.

[quote]there might be a who shot Victor story coming up.

That would be worth it. Surely Eric Braeden has made enough money playing TGVN all these years that he no longer needs to work. So let him go out as a complete and total victim. Only he needs to be really, truly dead. No James Stenbeck bullshit.

R36 Braeden has said he’s not retiring. Even if he did, they probably wouldn’t have someone kill him, and he would just have a natural death. Nikki would come in to their room and just find him dead a la Neil Winters. I really don’t see what the point of Victor owning Chancellor is, other than him getting his own way yet again. And how exactly did Billy run the company into the ground? Not what from I saw. Thompson must be so tired of playing a perpetual loser and the way they write Billy. So it might be leading up to something where Victor gets intentionally or accidentally shot. Hopefully.

[quote] Plenty of suspects.

Well, the two main villains in town who both loathe Victor are Ian and Jordan. And with those two around, if someone else looks like the culprit, then he/she would probably be being framed by those two.

A shooting sounds so repetitious. Goat Daddy's already been shot at least three times (Mari Jo, Pattycakes, and Ian).

They could show Victor's head being chopped off and they'd still find a lame way to have him survive. This character is hardly noble, worthy or wise, he's riveting because he has a Trump like appeal, lol. I'd rather see Nikki torn apart by a lion.

I've always wanted Victor do something to Jack that pisses Traci off so much that she decides to put an end to Victor once and for all. Traci goes out to The Ranch and tackles the old man as soon as he opens the door. She then straddles Victor and holds him down with her weight while she proceeds to rip Colleen's heart out of his chest with her bare hands screaming, "You don't deserve my daughter's heart, you evil piece of shit!" She then puts the heart in her purse, walks out, leaving Victor to bleed out and die.

No one suspects Traci and authorities reach the conclusion that Victor must have been attacked by one of the big wild boars that have recently been spotted on the property.

R40 I'd pay to see that.

Who is Claire? Is she supposed to be dating that fag?

La Stafford has a 45 year old son?

Will Ordway's hot husband have to get a job now? Soaps don't really support the Scott DeFreitas retirement plan like they used to.

I wish Scott DeFreitas was on a soap.

r43

I heart r44

Bordway and her husband moved to Nashville a little over a year ago. I'm guessing it was some kind of move to try to foment more interest in his fledgling "country music" career. You know, put a cowboy hat on and anyone can sing. Y&R may have bumped her to recurring, but this action may work better due to her own geographic distance from the studio and travel schedule. Think recurring actresses like Tracey Bregman (Tennessee) and Jess Walton (Oregon).

If they are writing Abby out, and Lily has been a nonentity since Jill's decision to sell Chancellor, why are they keeping Dev-on? And oh Gawd, this AWFUL actress playing ill Amy is a total snooze. Poor Nate is saddled with a very bad storyline, and wasting Audra is a sin. Audra and Chance are 2 characters they need to use more. Claire is just a wind up weirdo with her earnestness, wanting to be everyone's darling. And I would be scared to be Mariah, Tessa and Faith and be around Sharon on Thanksgiving, don't let her slice the turkey. Or will she freak them out by talking to 'Cameron' during dinner, asking him to pass the rolls and not the judgment!!

Sharon going nuts and carving up those three snoozes would be something I would tune in to watch

I don't think they're writing Abby out, she'll probably just be played as DuhVon's seldom-seen, happy wife. They can easily film two or three episodes with her during a once-a-month trip to California and show her with Devon, checking in with the Abbotts, making an appearance at her restaurant, etc. .. And frankly, no one would miss her that much. I remember when Ordway went on maternity leave a few years ago and was gone for months. Her absence from the canvas didn't register at all.

As for Lily, there's another one of those rumors out there that Cane could be coming back (ugh!) based on a cryptic video message that Goddard put on his social media. However, he's done the thing about "big news coming that he can't wait to share" before.

NEXT WEEK on The Young & the Restless.

-- Nick tells Chance he needs his help. (Let's have Chance suggest they take Nick's need to a stall in Society's unisex bathroom.)

-- Aunt Jack has an idea he wants Dianejenkins to consider. (Panties swap?)

-- Aunt Jordan's first "disguise" makes its debut. .. Oh, puhleeze. ClairEve must be a moron if she doesn't recognize the woman who raised her for more than 20 years. And I don't know what Zenk is trying to do with the way she's talking, but she sounds exactly the same. People recognize their relatives' voices immediately.

LOL R51 - Jordan's blonde wig and British accent! Claire must be swallowing stupid pills because she's a pill herself. I can just hear after that scene 'That woman reminds me of someone....I just can't remember who,' -

We can hate Victor all we want, but gotta love Hans when he does stuff like this.

Mini-spoiler for Monday.

Diane and Jack are optimistically talking about Kyle having agreed to join them for Thanksgiving dinner during which Diane mentions her son's love for Green Bean Casserole ever since he was a kid.

That remark reminded me of a funny bit of history from Christmas '97 when Victor was married to Diane. Nikki felt obligated to invite Diane to Christmas at The Ranch, otherwise Victor wouldn't come to spend the day with "the children." She snootily called Diane up to invite her and told her to bring a dish. Diane told Nikki that she didn't have a traditional dish, so Nikki suggested she bring the Green Bean Casserole. When Victor found out what Diane would be making, he told his wife to "make sure to put a lot of those French-fried onion thingies on top." LOL.

The day of the dinner party everyone was assembling at The Ranch for the holiday while Diane was still seen home alone in The Penthouse kitchen preparing the casserole. While it was baking, she suddenly experienced a bleeding ulcer attack and had to be rushed to the emergency room.

The camera showed the Green Bean Casserole bubbling over in the oven. DRAMA !!

R54, was that the year the CBS shows all had to write-in a Butterball reference?

Nick tells Chance that Sharon is now "rational and coherent." Is that why she was talking like a zombie in her scene with Phyllis yesterday?

And I had to laugh when Nick told Chance that Sharon has never done anything close to what she's now confessed to. .. Has he forgotten that Sharon hit Cameron over the head with a champagne bottle, then dragged his seemingly dead body from his hotel room down to the back alley where she covered him up with snow? .. I remember viewers howling over the fact that she did all that herself wearing four-inch stilettos. .. She then went back and moved what she thought was his corpse and stuck it down in the Genoa City sewer -- only by that time, it was actually Frank Barritt's dead body.

Nick seems to enjoy being a private dick. Maybe TPTB should think about transitioning him to that role. He's always been rather tepid on the corporate front. .. Nick could be like Clueless, but instead of having a Girl Friday like lovesick Lynne Bassetthound running the office, Nick could hire a cute, efficient twink to be his personal Johnny on the Spot. The young man could gaze at Nick dreamily and every once in awhile mistakenly answer "Yes, Daddy!" instead of "Yes, Boss!"

Ian must need cataract surgery to have not recognized Jordan.

JaBottom and ClairEve are total snoozeville. .. I wonder how she reacted when he pulled out the strap-on and coaxed her into pegging him? Her first time? She wouldn't know any different.

R58 legacy call out to Peggy brooks right?

Speaking of Peggy Brooks, what was the problem between Solow and Anthony Herrera, who played Jack Curtis? I've read viewer recollections saying she walked off the set at some point, supposedly to complain to TPTB about him, or was it just storyline related? And apparently, the story ended sooner than it was supposed to with Herrera implying he got axed from the show. His time in Genoa City was not good, or so it's said.

OP that is a delectable rosebud of a nipple!

Yes I guess Nick also forgot Sharon burned the ranch down, and her affair with Victor. I'd LOVE for Nutso Sharon to burn the NEW ranch set down, with Nikki and Icktor trapped inside!

SOILER

Nikki hires Prudence (Jordan's blonde British accented persona) as her new assistant at Chancellor. Claire and Esther both feel there is something odd about this person, but can't pinpoint what.

Just the name "Prudence" would be odd .. lol. .. And of course it makes perfect sense to hire a 70-year old woman wearing a bad blonde wig from The Halloween Store to be an assistant to the CEO of a major corporation. .. Nikki should know better, since she hired crazy killer, Veronica Landers, wearing her bad blonde wig and specs to be her maid, "Sarah" ... and that got her four or five bullets in the abdomen.

They really need to stop showing that opening insert scene of Chancellor Park. It's December in Wisconsin. None of the trees should have that many leaves on them. As amateurish as it looks, the CGI scene they've been using with characters talking on a bench in the park looks more like late-Autumn, early-Winter should.

In other news, at least they mentioned Noah today, as we heard that Sharon told him not to come home until the trial starts. Of course, there probably won't be any trial once new evidence comes to light.

And is that a new blond twink working at Crimson Lights? .. He looks like he could earn more at Helix Studios.

"Erica Hope returns today as Nikki Reed Newman"

R63 if only!

Shari Shattuck was the definitive Ashley Abbott.

Shari had no chemistry with anyone, and she spoke her lines like she was reading instructions. She'd been trying to get a regular gig on a soap for years. As I recall, she talked Bill Bell into hiring her to play FauxAshley at the 1995 Y&R-B&B Christmas Party when she was Mrs. Ronn Moss. I wonder if she sat on the old man's lap?

I wonder what Shari thought of Ronn's speedos.

Ronn likes big tits even if they are fake.

Is Hunter Tylo nutty? I mean, I know she's not quite at Brenda Dickson-level of crazy, but she's definitely said some crazy things, and none of her former castmates seemed very close to her.

R69 Anybody who had Hunter's looks then did what she did to her face and body is some kind of crazy. And CDAN had a blind item about her about two years ago indicating she and her ex-husband had been MLM-Pyramid scheme scammers. IMDb indicates they were married nine years, but she was able to get it annulled. What was the basis? Fraud?

Jabottom didn't have a shirt on this week. Thank God!

I was hoping JaBottom would take his pants off, so we could see his Andrew Christian apricot-fuschia jock strap.

R72 That was the plan, but Aunt Jack had borrowed it.

Speaking of Aunt Jack, are they really going to let him get one over on The Old Turd?

Jackie was sooooo giddy dropping that little bomb on Victor about having secretly bought all the Glissade divisions from him on the cheap.

Oh geez. Wait till you find out on Monday what Aunt Jordan and Ian laced Sharon's meds with. My jaw dropped, then thought, 'Shit, that actually makes sense given her behavior.'

I think Shari Shattuck brought a warmth to the character of Ashley that's been sadly lacking.

That man at OP is stunning

Which male character has the biggest sausage? Hans? Aunt Jack? JaBottom?

Miguel.

How are they getting access to Sharon's meds? Aunt Jordan crawling around the air shafts?

[quote] I think Shari Shattuck brought a warmth to the character of Ashley that's been sadly lacking

No, that would be Brenda Epperson, sometimes referred to as AshleyLite, whom many viewers grew to prefer during her eight years in the role because of that very element.

Shattuck on the other hand was often criticized for coming off rather harsh and stiff.

We need photos of Connner Floyd in his jock strap from when he played running back for Tulsa University.

If you click link twice to supersize, there's a hint of a dick print.

R79 they must be coming through that tunnel Cameron dug into Sharon's house, obviously no one noticed when Jorda and Ian posed as construction workers on the updated Newman Ranch. Victor must have hired Illegals who couldn't speak English, so Jordan with her fake voice, dressed as a Mexican male and would only say 'Ola' when Vic asked questions.

I heard Mel doesn't wear a bra on the Y&R set

Thinking that Jordan may have broken into Sharon's house and sprayed some kind of aerosol PCP on her bipolar meds is the least probematic element of this story, imo. We already know Jordan is some kind of *mastermind* when it comes to poisons and anecdotes, and she previously got into Victoria's Father Knows Best House to burn the place down and later broke into The The Abbott House when she kidnapped Harrison.

R83 That was me

Mel liked to show off her fun bags back in the day.

They might be down to her belly button by now.

Kathleen Widdoes over at ATWT used to flash her titties to every new cast member, male or female long before Mel showed her fun bags.

Oh gee. Somehow Aunt Jordan found the time to go out and have her nails done! And the polish color even matches the outfit she's wearing! RME. .. I did laugh, though, at Ian thinking Nick wasn't smart enough to figure things out about the tainted meds. Over the years, message boards have often referred to him as "Nicklueless" because he's so damn dumb.

They really should just stop with this nonsense between JaBottom and Dummer bitching at each other over Harrison and ClairEve. Tedious. .. And glad to hear Summer confirm that she and Chance are on break I hope it's permanent and he doesn't come grovelling back to her simply because he was doing his job.

Mariah's cabOOse in that short-sleeved jumpsuit. .. Oh dear, not a gOOd lOOk especially from the backside.

And speaking of butts .. is today the first time we've heard that the husky bartender at Society is named "Andy"? I heard Nick use his name when thanking him. .. Actor Nicholas Hunt has been in this background role for years now. .. His night job is as the maitre d' of an exclusive "speakeasy" in the Marina del Rey called "Old Lightning."

R88 Who cares???????

I heard Kate Linder doesn't wear panties on the Y&R set. Maybe that explains the contract...

Does Kate Linder’s pussy stink?

R91 Like roses.

My face left her crotch with peanut shell crumbles in my beard.

I’m still dead bitches!