Splash around this summer in Genoa City

Continued from prior thread

Complimentary sperm samples available.

Mikey Baldwin in the locker room!

That hat is just dumb, Ted

It's like Josh is sitting a novel not a soap

^

sitting = writing

R5 a solid analysis, since he learned to write on OLTL working with Michael Malone, the novelist.

Welcome to Genoa City Billy Flynn

Billy Flynn makes me moist - down there.

OK, the hat is pretty silly, but otherwise......swoon!

R10 Here's a shot of the actor (Zach Tinker) without a hat.....hot indeed!

That's your leaky Depends, Mel

Show me some pink

How short is he?

[quote] It's like Josh is writing a novel not a soap.

That's been mentioned before, mainly because that's what Griffith does when he's not trying to do a soap. He has no less than seven self-published novels via his "Dark Street Press" (at link). I think you may still be able to order them on Amazon as well.

And this form of writing in our little daytime drama becomes pretty evident whenever he does these long stories that are told with tons of exposition in the dialogue. It's based on telling us rather than showing us.

So I listened to Billy Flynn's live stream interview with Michael Fairman. Nothing earth-shattering, but I recall a few interesting things:

He's known about taking over this role since January.

They gave him a 25-page synopsis about Cane's past.

He had to be schooled on how to pronounce, "Genoa." (There are out-takes of this in a youtube video at Y&R Insider.)

Even though she's not in these episodes, Jess Walton called to congratulate and talk to him about taking over the role.

He's known about Conner Floyd taking over the role of "Chad" on Days for quite some time. He approached Floyd to congratulate him and talk about it.

He and Goddard have not spoken. He said he didn't think it was his place to make contact.

I believe it was when Fairman said something about the age difference between Goddard and Flynn that Billy laughingly said something like, "We're not going to mention me pretending to be PC3."

One thing Flynn said just kinda out of the blue is that he thinks he should give "Traci" a big hug when he sees her. (I took that to mean someone told him about Goddard not wanting to do that story with Maitland.)

Tinker has the pedigree background and huge Italian cock. He wins.

Why are their nips so beige? Why do makeup artists do that?

How could you mispronounce Genoa?

GENE-oh-ah, would be my guess.

Honestly, nothing surprises my anymore ever since I heard Dana Schwartz butcher "Ravenna" on Noble Blood. Some people are just utterly hopeless with foreign words.

^It’s pronounced “Jin-o-uh.” Have u never watched the show?

It’s GEN-o-uh. There’s no other way to say it.

How do you screw up Ravenna?

This ain’t rocket science 🤷🏻‍♂️ well it is tee vee

Cole has Legionnaires Disease.

Legionnaire's Disease?

How very 1970s.

If I thought it meant we'd be getting a 1970s quality soap I'd be ecstatic.

The out-takes of Flynn regarding his pronunciation of "Genoa" are in this video around the 1:50 mark.

They should do more of these kind of goofs and blooper reels. Eric Braeden is pretty funny.

Some nice male flesh

Holden and JaBottom should have been half naked on the same continent, though. Lots of hidden places to fuck in the maze, I bet.

The wife must be telling JaBottom to spend less time at the gym. I see a little spare tire forming.

Looking a little soft and then Holden shows up in those scenes with Claire...

So Cane is at least 10 years younger, a lot less muscular and now speaks with an American accent. And I thought that Sherri Shattuck as Ashley and the Malcolm Winters recast were both really bad.

R11, that's some great genetics with a lot of time in the gym and watching what he eats.

Amazing body.

R32 and no one at the network or Sony speaks up and says 'no. just no.' to this.

the shrubs. the anticlimatic of it all.

Billy would have been great in another role, but Cane? No.

Nothing can be worse than the Malcolm recast. To recast a handsome man like Shemar with one of the butt ugliest men to ever walk God's green earth was some sort of cruel joke.

But Billy Flynn as Cane is up there, though.

I'm already seeing potential problems here with names via the return of Cane.

Not only do we have Cane Ashby, but we also have his former employee Damien Kane.

Too name Cane/Kanes in the house!

NuCane reminds me of child actor Eric Gurry.

Conner Floyd in the opening today.

The new costume designer was on social media discussing choosing wardrobe for these scenes in faux "France."

While I made off that I was complimenting her overall, I told her that her choices for men's swmwear were rather underwhelming, indicating that these days, guys who work out like to show off their bodies by wearing short, square-cut swimsuits and sungas. I also reminded her that the local custom for men in France is to wear Speedo- like suits.

Amusing scene in Monday's episode making one wonder if someone's noticed JaBottom's weight gain.

He and his mother are eating alone and talking about how they're basically stuck there; but then Diane comments, "I HAVE noticed that you're really enjoying the fine cuisine."

He gets this, "Are you calling me FAT?" look on his face.

Growing up we called the salami gen-OH-a.

The costume designer should be fired today. She’s horrible.

I'm loving seeing whatever monstrosity they stick MTS in. She looks ridiculous, especially with whatever hair mess they give her.

Nikki’s hairdo made her look like one of the background dancers in Hairspray.

Nikki's hairdo is preventing yet another student's geometry education!

MTS has the best hair on the show, especially when compared to The Staff’s limp hair and Sharon Case’s stringy split-end strands, which desperately need a trim. Mel’s hair is still thick after all these years, it’s just that she never lets it get past shoulder length anymore before hacking it off.

R46 I agree about Mel's hair. I recall one of ye olde hairdressers at the show once gave an interview once and commented on how Mel's head of hair was the best-est and funnest to work with because they could do just about anything they wanted with it. .. But given her age today, I think she's wise to keep it above shoulder length. It's more age appropriate and doesn't drag her face down even more than it already goes. .. Some of these actresses in their 50s and above should think about getting a shorter cut. The obvious extensions to fill in their thinning hair as they age really get ratty-looking at times.

R47, I agree — see the Mariska Hargitay thread, lol.

Speaking of hair, I'm not sure I'd have recognized Tonya Lee Williams (HoLivia) from this recent pic.

Y&R would probably put her in a bad wig like they've done with the Valarie Pettiford who's playing NuAmy.

I loved Nikki’s “power dyke” hairdo at her birthday party in the jazz club basement. It seemed like a nod to the ‘80s idea the wedding planner had offered as a theme. It was very 1985.

Isn’t Tinker the actor who plays Hot Sonny on Days of Our Lives aka DOOL? Is he no longer on DOOL?

R51, correct and correct. Tinker plays two separate gay characters on two different soaps.

Back in the early 90s. MTS once lent her name to a line of hair products that she had supposedly help develop. I remember in one interview/infomercial, she claimed that some of the herbal ingredients were grown in a plot of land she had off Mulholland in the Hollywood Hills. My family lived in the area, and my teenaged sister wanted to find this farm thinking we could see Nikki.

R51 He isn't regularly on DOOL.

Thanks, R52. Is he gay himself?

Isn't Cane Australian? He was supposed to be pretending to be Phillip at one point who is maybe 30 years older?

[QUOTE] [R51] He isn't regularly on DOOL.

Nowhere in my post did I saw he was.

It's so strange that Griffith just threw in that episode with FenMo (Tinker) where he's confirmed gay and has a longterm boyfriend. Then, nothing .. except an occasional mention of "Fen and Trey."

Makes me think that it may have been Griffith's intent all along to have Fenmore (Ehrich) be gay even back when he wrote the bullying storyline with poor Jamie (2012).

I remember some viewers thinking that Fen's motivation may have been jealousy, in that he saw Summer as his beard and didn't want her getting close to Jamie. And of course, the storyline that began under Griffith with Lauren and Carmine (Marco Dapper) seemed to contain some homoerotic undertones with her son, Fen. Of course, it's pretty easy to imagine something like that with anything Marco appears in. ;-)

R56 Flynn's interview with Queen Fairman raises those issues. We're apparently supposed to ignore such things. He specifically joked that Cane pretending to be PC3 is not to be covered.

Little PeeWee with the pinocchio NOSE somehow made it out of France to talk to Holden back in GC and is spotted by Chelsea!

"What is that HUGE facial protruberance?" She gasps. "Cane traded his pecs for that?"

[quote]He specifically joked that Cane pretending to be PC3 is not to be covered.

But multiple other characters have already mentioned it in passing since Billy Flynn's debut. So, the show is not ignoring it. They may not be delving into but show is not pretending it didn't happen.

[quote] Isn't Cane Australian? He was supposed to be pretending to be Phillip at one point who is maybe 30 years older?

He was Australian, a fact they've chosen to ignore.....as well as ignoring the years he was Phillip, as well.

They may as well put a wig on him and call him Aunt Jordan, too.

NuCane is a liar!

I like Billy Flynn a lot. Think he is great as Chad on Days.

I hate to say this, but I think he's been miscast as Cane.

[quote]He was Australian, a fact they've chosen to ignore..

Happens to the best of us.

I don't dislike Billy but bringing him on as Cane is truly beyond stupid.

[quote]Happens to the best of us.

Yes, it certainly does.

Is Tinker white?

Tinker loves pussy. He ate out the actress who plays Tessa for awhile. They broke up.

R55 I think Tinker's participation in this hilarious parody more than likely conveys something about himself as well - jmho.

Sugar or cream? .. Probably sugar and cream.

Ooooh my nose!

I’m missing the PeeWee Pinocchio reference. Is that what some (very low humor) people are calling Billy Flynn?

Also, Flynn is very anti-Trump and used to rail against him on his socials.

Excuse me!

He's FOWBF!

I hope the wardrobe folks at Y&R know the potential they have now that CHASS has joined the show.

ArASStotle or DumASS?

Genoa City is the fictional setting for the long-running American soap opera The Young and the Restless (Y&R). • It’s not the real Genoa in Italy, but a made-up Midwestern city in the United States, said to be about 75 miles from Milwaukee (in Wisconsin). • The show has been on the air since 1973, and focuses on the personal and professional lives of the families and residents of Genoa City — most notably the Newmans, the Abbotts, and the Winters.

So when people say “Genoa City, The Young and the Restless,” they’re referring to the fictional backdrop where all the drama, romance, corporate battles, and betrayals of Y&R

There is a real Genoa City. WI

When Y&R started to be less small town and read more big city, they would often use shots of Pittsburgh in the show. They still do, when they sometimes show Newman Towers (which is One Oxford Centre in Pittsburgh). And there's that modified shot of the Pittsburgh skyline at night where they've used some CGI to show one of the buildings lit up with the "Jabot" script at top.

R77 They also filmed in Pittsburgh several times over the years. Pittsburgh was a very dedicated CBS soap town.

The real Genoa City is tiny. Like, two stop signs and a gas station tiny. But I'm sure Bill Bell saw that name when he and his family went from Chicago to their lakeside home in Lake Geneva.

[quote] But I'm sure Bill Bell saw that name when he and his family went from Chicago to their lakeside home in Lake Geneva.

Based on the Wikipedia link at R76:

[quote] The show's creators, William and Lee Phillip Bell, had a vacation home in Lake Geneva and passed through Genoa City when visiting.

R79 that's hilarious.....I hadn't read that. I just remember it was the first time I saw the sign for Genoa City.....turning left off 90/94 and heading west to Lake Geneva.

Teh Bells rooned my careeer.

I remember when one of CBS’ prime time news programs did a segment on Kay Alden. It was reported in the show that the correct pronunciation of the real town’s name is juh-NO-uh City.

R75, stop ChatGPT-ing everything. There was nothing in that article that was new information and couldn’t have just been plainly written.

*splash!*

There goes Cole.

They put some Yardley White Lipstick from the 60s on him and play a version of the Y&R theme.

It's not even the final "dramatic" scene of the episode.

I hope Victoria thought to close Cole's mouth before she left the hospital room, because we see nary a sign of a doctor or nurse.

It was so uneventful I wonder if he's dead

Billy has an ass that just won’t quit!

R86 I know! I thought the same thing, but then it's like they're both at home and "dad is gone." and they couldn't even hire an underfive to play a doctor or nurse to confirm his death? They just walked out of the room or what? Silly.

Michael Muhney is now teaching acting. He was pretty much blacklisted after getting fired from the show.

Muhney should get a second chance somewhere.

I think Hans fucked him over somehow.

Muhney should get a second chance somewhere ... other than daytime.

Didn't he end up in daytime after being troublesome elsewhere?

R92 Yes. He got a bad rep while he was still on Veronica Mars, and it's why they killed his character off.

Muhney was always and is still an asshole. So happy he ruined his career.

Watershed moment.

^ ... which led to much ado about nothing and is never mentioned.

But an actor quit rathe than play that scene r96. So, its significant in the annals of soap history.

It was an interesting twist and I'm surprised it has never really been done on another soap.

They should have showed it! What do you think happened?

It would fall under the category of "situational homosexuality," and be likened to a specific situation, in this not unlike a straight guy in prison who has sex with another inmate or guard in order to avoid other consequences or to manipulate that person in some way.

In this case, Adam was under house arrest at the Newman Ranch, and his attorney, Rafe, was hot on his trail about gaslighting Ashley and putting the blame on Rafe's aunt, Estella Munoz, who worked at the ranch. Adam chose to seduce gay Rafe as a way to manipulate him and stop Rafe from continuing the search of his his (prison cell) bedroom, since the evidence Rafe was looking for was right under the bed in a box.

After the unseen deed, they made sure to reinforce Adam's straightness, by having him shoo Rafe out, then go take a hot shower to wipe all the gay off. He then called his girlfriend, Heather, to have her come to The Ranch immediately so they could have sex.

The very thought of Nikki hiking down the treacherous hill with Adam so that she can leave the château and get home to Victoria and ClairEve is hilarious.

They should have run with that. The scenes could have been just as funny as when Nikki went down into the Genoa City sewer with Sharon.

Mel has previously said she loves doing comedy (she's a big "I love Lucy" fan), so why not? We could use some counterpoint to the overall sluggishness of this Cane story.

Missed opportunity.

Does she appreciate the unintended comedy she conveys?

Re: Adam and Rafe (sort of)… was it ever explained how Adam’s eyesight was repaired, or was he faking the impairment? I thought it was legit, but I’m blanking on how it was corrected.

Didn't he burn a dead baby in the fireplace?

And then he got younger.

R103 Adam went out of town to have some super-duper, state-of-the-art transplants to restore his vision. I think I remember hearing the words robotics and/or miniatures were involved. At the time this "cure" was written, it was basically science fiction where his inherited disease of retinitis pigmentosa was concerned. No such surgery existed in the real world. I doubt it does even today this many years later.

R104 When Adam was gaslighting Ashley, pretending to be Sabrina's ghost, she tripped and fell down Ye Olde Newman Staircase during a lightning and thunder storm and suffered a miscarriage. To cover it up, Adam put the fetus in the fireplace and burned it.

With nununuAdam they've all but ignored that he ever knew Ashley.......not so hard since Eileen isn't on all the time.

Thanks, R105. I vaguely remember Adam’s surgery. I thought the vision issue gave the character some depth back then.

I seem to recall Adam dressing up in a purple dress and a dark wig to become “Sabrina” when he was gaslighting Ashley. That was actually a fun storyline. I liked Sabrina and thought they should have kept her around a little longer. But her death led to Victor and Ashley and this whole storyline. IIRC, Nikki stupidly asked Ashley to go to Paris to get Victor who was grieving Sabrina’s death. And then Victor fell for Ashley again.

It was the actor before Muhney. The one who quit rather than do the gay scenes. That actor completely disappeared.

That was Chris Engen.

Has Engen worked at all since he flounced out of YR?

I don't think he needed to or he found another line of work.

It's easy to walk away when you have money.

R109, some of my best friends…

Blah blah blah

R111 He's not wealthy. His right-wing, conspiracy theorist, Maggot mother sells real estate in the Victorville area. She gets a listing now and again. At the time of the Y&R incident, she still had her foot in home sales in the South Bay area where they had lived when he was growing up, and she had him assist her doing some work for her in that area. This paid the rent.

R110 He wisely gave up acting. The one credit he did post Y&R was a short film as a favor for someone he knew. In SOD, Eileen Davidson referred to him as "delicate flower" and implied he had no idea what one might have to do when you act in a daytime soap opera. Needless to say it was a bad fit. Meanwhile Chrissy LeBlanc said he would kill to have a storyline as exiting as Adam's at the time and wished he could apply for the job. I'm guessing the thought of kissing Yani Gellman played into that.

The last photo I saw of Engen (two years ago) looked like he'd gained about 40 lbs. and he had a cigarette in his hand.

Unless someone starts a MAGA soap opera he won't work again.

I don't think he wants to be an actor any longer, anywhere.

Muhney looks terrible these days also. He’s fug.

Next week on the Young and the Restless ...

OMG! Geriatric RockOn is going to ask Jabot Teen Model, Cricket Blair, to be his beard, errr ... I mean, marry him!

And if they've got Audra in that push up bra and panty set, shouldn't we get JaBottom in a thong, or at least some bikini briefs?

I'm actually shocked Yani Gellman (Rafe) turned out to be straight in real life. He seriously pinged and played other gay roles.

It's also a shame they didn't have Rafe hook up with Philip since they were both literally standing next to each other at Billy and Victoria's wedding and briefly interacted.

Has this show ever had a gay male couple?

Fen and his day player boyfriend.

Yani Gellman is so cute.

I think there might have been a plan for Rafe and Phillip at one time.

If Thom Bierdz had been a stronger actor, they likely would have kept Phillip 3 in town.

However Thom said the original deal was for a certain number of episodes and that was exactly how many he did before they sent P3 away.

Thom didn't say how many episodes he was contracted for, but I'd guess it was 30 or 35. Anybody know for sure?

OP- I thought Splash was in Chelsea NYC not some place named after salami.

What did Mariah do for godsakes? Fuck an old man?

R125 Either that or help him commit suicide due to terminal illness.

Some people think Mariah got drunk, started coming on to the old letch, then when things went too far in her PTSD-addled brain, she had flashbacks of the similarly lecherous old man in her life, Ian Ward, and ended up killing this stranger. .. MAGA Swan has referred to this sequence as a "cameo," so I don't think we'll be seeing him beyond the reel he did for these inserts.

Danny looks like an old lesbian

Day-ahead : showed Mariah flasbacking to smothering the old guy with a cushion

Creepy old dead guy shows up in Genoa City 3...2...1...

My thoughts exactly

Did the pillow smother him or did the weight of Mariah's caboose on top of his intestines cause them to rupture into his abdominal cavity and kill him?

His eyes were clearly open and she was showing him a picture of Melody Thomas Snott while she did it.

So I suspect he died in a state of disgust.

I'm laughing at these entitled billionaire characters saying that they're all being held captive. In a luxurious Chateau in France with plenty of gourmet food and drink. Not tied up or being tortured and free to roam around and lounge at the pool. All because they can't get a cell signal.

[quote]I'm laughing at these entitled billionaire characters saying that they're all being held captive. In a luxurious Chateau in France with plenty of gourmet food and drink. Not tied up or being tortured and free to roam around and lounge at the pool. All because they can't get a cell signal.

Somehow Adam can make it in, but the rest of them can't figure out how to make it out.

Adam hiked up and down a little known and treacherous path along the hillside to get in and out.

I think the only ones who have really been bitching about being there are Miss Piggy and Lily, an even Lily seems to be having some fun with Damian. But Victor forbade Nikki from hiking back down the hill with Adam. Many of the others actually do seem to be taking advantage of the vacation element.

But due to the train not being able to move presently, it begs the question, why not just walk down the hill along the tracks?

[quote]But due to the train not being able to move presently, it begs the question, why not just walk down the hill along the tracks?

Supposedly, part of the hill/mountain have been washed away by the storm, including the land under the railroad tracks.

Wait. Egan, Case, Stafford and Davidson ALL nominated in Lead? MTS must be apoplectic!

The always-melodramatic LaBergman and Scenery-Chewing Chrissy LeBlanc could have rounded out that category to make it a total Y&R blowout

Please Y&R. Never ever ever ever ever let Tessa sing again. Hard to believe that useless character has been around for 9 years.

I like Chelsea

Tessa can be a great asset.

Melody bought a star on the walk of fame! She dun need no stinkin’ Emmy!

Does the state where Mariah murdered this mystery man have capital punishment?

Asking for a friend.

Is their kid's name Diarrhea?

Damian - STABBED

Wait...they're STILL on that fucking island? Haven't watched it since the big reveal.

Has any mention been made to the other kid Cain had? I think his name was Sam perhaps.

It’s spelled “Cane.”

Everybody wants to have Cane arrested for forcing them to have a luxury vacation in France and now the hedge maze magically shapeshifts like in Labyrinth and several characters are lost inside of it.

Did they hire writers from DOoL or rehire the hacks responsible for the insane and bizarre storylines we got from 2006-2012?

R147 It's not an island. They're somewhere in the mountains that are near Nice.

So they're going to kill Damian off?

I can hardly wait to see Amy's bad wig weep and wail over that.

Michael Damian?

Damian Kane seems the most likely candidate for murder. Given the previews, we've already seen that Devon is, tragically, not the victim.

Also the poor choice for last name for Damian Kane given the fact they've just brought Cane Ashby back, that seems to put a target on Damien's back just simply to avoid confusion.

Plus, there' Damian's past history as one of Aristotle Dumas' employees.

R153 Damian Kane.

Damian gets a dagger to the back at the end of today's episode. Looks pretty bad. .. And last Friday's preview for this week had the lovely Chance announcing a MURDER.

Oh, if they're going on a murder spree at an isolated French chateau in the mountains above Nice, I have many suggestions for victims:

1. Devon

2. Victor

3. Sally Spectra

4. Michael Baldwin

5. Phyllis

I could see Michael LaBaldwin having an airtight alibi and not being a suspect for the murder.

Cane's secretary, Carter, was sucking his cock behind the third hedge to the left in the maze.

Is there room for Billy and Nicki on your kill list? PLEASE???

I wouldn't kill Billy off, but he definitely needs a NuHead.

Sorry to say, Jason Thompson has been in the role since 2016 and he's never won me over. He's just 'there'. .. And has he ever clicked with any of his romantic interests? Forgive me if I've forgotten someone, because everything on that front just seems to blend together.

Yes, its Damian who's dead.

Are we ready to declare Billy Flynn as a bad recast?

Not to the level of Malcolm from family matters but not good.

Maybe about even with heather when she was Bianca from amc.

What other bad recasts has this show had?

Why go to all the elaborate trouble of introducing a brother for Nate just to kill him off six months later?

[quote]Are we ready to declare Billy Flynn as a bad recast?

I am a huge Billy Flynn fan but not buying him as Cane in the least.

This is like an entirely new character who they happened to name Cane Ashby.

Cane was dumb as a box of rocks. Yet now we're supposed to believe he is a business mastermind who has amassed billions of dollars in the six years since he left town?!?!?

Cane’s.

Jermaine Rivers to BTG please!

What was the point of Damian who just died after a few months

Good question

R159, he was fantastic with Gina Tognoni.

Lily was never really going for Black cock.

Besides, they’ve reached their Black actor quota so they had to get rid of him.

R150, funny you should say that…when I saw that knife being brandished by the unseen killer I thought, “This looks something on Days.”

I loved the close up of the train today. The Trolley on Mr. Rogers looked more realistic. Hell, the train models that Hitchcock used in the beginning of The Lady Vanishes looked more realistic.

This shit is so bad. Billy Flynn was fine on DAYS, but he's terrible on Y&R. I predict Cane will be gone in 6 months.

Do the pudding-dribblers and their aides still enjoy this show? This ain't Mrs. Chancellor's Young and the Restless.

In what world would someone choose Devon over Chance?

[quote]In what world would someone choose Devon over Chance?

Well, it's Abby. And she's not all that bright upstairs.

But the Devon-Abby pairing lets the show push two dull as dishwater characters to the side and keep them there.

R173 😁😁

God, this show is packed with couples who are dull, dull, dull - Adam and Chelsea, Billy and Sally, Mooriah and Tessa.

They had a chance with Lilly and Damian. Will she end up pregnant now?

Chelsea needs more to do. Put her with Holden

Oh, and how could I forget Jabottom and Claire? SNOOOOOOZE