Are closeted young male actors still encouraged to beard or be in the closet?

No.

Yes.

But it may depend on what path you want to take, and what sort of image you are curating. You want the A-list (or whatever passes for it today), then yes.

Other than that, there does seem to be some leeway for other paths...predominately tv actor, broadcasting/hosting, theater, comedy, etc. There will always be a few exceptions to the rule, too.

But overall, from industry folks, clients are still told to keep that part of themselves "as quiet as possible".

Correct R2.

Thank you for calling me young!

No.

As a youngun', I couldn't imagine an out A-list actor like a Jonathan Bailey in leading man roles -- so that's an improvement.

Yes. Given that the majority of gay celebrities are still in the closet, it's obviously still a big issue. Take a look at the annual DL "Who Will Come Out?" lists -- at the end of each year, virtually no major names come out from the list. Year after year.

They may be escorted to the closet, but recent years to me seem to be all about "gay baiting" and teasing whether or not they are actually gay.

Yes in Nicholas Galitzine’s case-being his birthday today his first IG story was a decorated room for him & flowers with a card saying “Happy Birthday Love, Cameron—second IG story was of course a selfie with a picture of her & him in the clear case iPhone case-He-man movie (which is gay-coded) getting closer- either him or his not so smart PR team to do this-the only ones that will believe that he is straight is the 20 year old’s-oh yeah C is in every porn site too! All the marbles on not there on whoever is running NG programmed career.

[quote] the only ones that will believe that he is straight is the 20 year old’s-

And they're every bit as bad as the fraus of 'yore, i.e. the ones who would end speculation about a male celeb's sexuality because it's 'none of our business.' The new ones just poo-poo speculation about their pretty-boy crushes, insisting it's 'homophobic.' OK. Sure, Jan.

There are several B list gay actors that are out now.

There will never be a major (out) gay movie star like Brad Pitt or Robert Redford. I actually think the days of that level of stardom are behind us, but you get what I’m trying to say.

It’s that old saying about women wanting them and men wanting to be them.

That soap actor on B&B who plays half of the new gay couple is openly gay. I think that's refreshing.

[quote] There will never again be a major movie star like Brad Pitt or Robert Redford, period.

FIFY

Austin who?

Lonely days, lonely nights....

Yes, Hollywood is homophobic.

Jonathan Bailey proves it. He is the first openly gay actor to land a leading role in a major blockbuster, and for it to be a hit. That shows how long Hollywood has avoided putting gay men at the forefront of box office movies. Jurassic World: Rebirth was a success, and now he is also a supporting lead in Wicked. Hopefully, his rise opens the door for others.

Another example is Cooper Koch. His Monster co-star Nicholas Alexander Chavez is rumored to be closeted, yet it was Cooper who landed the bigger role afterward.

Then there is Richard Madden. He was once on track to be the next big thing, but his career seemed to derail after he was outed. It felt like in-house sabotage, and it shows how easily the industry can shut someone down.

The truth is that the public does not care if an actor is gay. A gay actor could play Batman, Superman, Bond, or any action star. As long as the story is not centered on being gay, audiences will not care. The problem lies with Hollywood and its gatekeepers.

The fact that Jonathan Bailey’s success in just the last year is the only real evidence of change is both sad and revealing. Gay actors have been shut out for decades. But his breakthrough offers proof that there is hope for the future.

The fact that even low-profile actors like Julian Morris, Colton Haynes & Garrett Clayton waited years before they felt comfortable coming out shows how serious the problem is. Imagine how long it will take for the big gay names to come out.

R9 Galitzine has a very expensive management team headed by Merideth Rothman at Curtis Brown. But they have done a lousy job of bearding him. As was pointed out on another thread the "invisible girlfriend" Cameron Valentina Eyre has been so badly shilled even his diehard Frau stans are skeptical. Only a handful of photos exists of them in the same frame. She has appeared with him at zero public functions. Apparently the reason for her underutilization was Galitzine & Kevitch were trying to work out their relationship. Kevitch wanted them to come out as a committed couple (which they were). Galitzine wanted a career. At one point Kevitch flew to London where Nick was filming He-Man. Returning encouraged Austin hopefully posted on his Insta "Looking forward to your BIG ANNOUNCEMENT mate". Galitzine chickened out.. No announcement. Kevitch moved out of their home in Santa Monica. All this drama with the boys delayed Rothman's beard roll out. Eyre was pissed and fuming she was being contracted to sit around as not being seen with Nick did not help her fledgling brand .Galitzine's last big premiere was for Mary & George and Nick brought his usual date partner/mate/boyfriend/top man Austin Kevitch. The premiere of his next film 100 Nights of Hero is at the London Film Festival Oct 8. Since Galitzine and Kevitch are now quits Nick will finally be sporting facial hair on Oct 8. Galitzine's CAREER for which he sacrificed his partner of 6 long years Austin Kevitch appears ready to blow up. Hope it was worth it Bambi.

R17 The irony is they all come out when their careers are over to revitalize them.

^ Another reason why I respect these two . Although I'm under no illusions. Bambi-Man will have a bigger career than Cooper. Phoneywood never changes.

"The truth is that the public does not care if an actor is gay but these young mens female Stans who fantasize about shagging them and the straight male fans who want to be them and the action He-Man heroes they portray are the "public" audience who buy tickets and subscribe to streamer services sure as hell DO CARE.' So the companies "gatekeepers" that invest millions in these actors films and brands HAVE TO CARE.

fixed for naive R16

Didn't Luke Evans go in & out of the closet a couple of times before finally officially coming out?

R15 Oy Kevitch won't be lonely for long. Cooper Koch has a cute Jewish gay bro who I'm sure would be more than willing to make a fine mensch like Austin's nites less lonely.

Austin Kevitch & Payton Koch would make a shayna bashert. Not to mention 15 inches of kosher schlong

I suspect some are encouraged to be in the closet, at least until they become more established.

I think some agents would worry being 'out' in real life early on could lead to a limit in the range of roles they'd be considered for.

Hollywood is filled with little homosexual boys!!!

There's a trio of connected A listers I could mention of varying nationalities who are hopelessly bearded and appear in coded films who it's a miracle have not been fingered yet

Unfortunately, out gay actors tend to only be offered gay characters

Under 45 year old women are obsessed with gay men. They get wet over them. The gay sexual fanfic they write is insane and the M/M romance genre is HUGE.

It’s not like they’re demanding those roles now, r29. /s

R29, Bailey has been playing straight. And most impressively for Bridgerton whose audience = Fraus 'R Us. That's the true litmus test right there. Can an out gay actor play a straight romantic male lead and be embraced by the fraus? And I think Bailey answered that question.

R28 they’ve all been fingered at some point…

R33 ^ . I thank you (R28)

R27 V8fairy weren't you taught not to blither with your psychotic sock puppet mouth full?

Not him, r35. Try harder. And this Galzitine nonentity's fanfraus should all be shot in their fucking faces. Why do fraus latch on to the most basic, unintereting turds of actors?

r35, the Galzitine turd will never come near your slimy, dirty, stinky XXXL pussy.

R36 cranky ...skipping 2nd dinner R36

R36 " unintereting"

Oh Dear x 3

Eat this r38

R27/ R36 stop mumbling gramps

R27 ect . your meds are in the fridge

Bailey isn't really A-List. The new JURASSIC WORLD movie did well, but grossed less than the previous two installments. It didn't seem to catapult Bailey to true megastar status, but as others have noted here, megastars are a thing of the past now. Bailey will have a nice career though.

R9 " not so smart PR team to do this.."

agree incredibly ham handed..

[quote]Are closeted young male actors still encouraged to beard or be in the closet?

Yes. Except for the duration of their auditions.

I wish all the Buster Crabbe ancient queens who infest this board could all be shot in their fucking colostomy bags.

It’s actually easier to be out than conservative in Hollywood today.

Are closeted male actors born before 1935 still encouraged to beard or be in the tomb?

fixed for OP

That's not my case. I'm just a "straight" actor who found truly "challenging" starring in the most famous gay-romance film of all time.

I think so. But there aren't any more movie stars, so actors don't make or break a movie like did back in the 2000s , 90s, and 80s. So being gay or anything controversial doesn't really matter.

Tyrone Power has a very expensive management team headed by Howard Strickling at MGM. But they have done a lousy job of bearding him. As was pointed out on another thread the "invisible girlfriend" Lana Turner has been so badly shilled even his diehard Frau stans are skeptical. Only a handful of photos exists of them in the same frame. She has appeared with him at zero public functions. Apparently the reason for her underutilization was Power & Romero were trying to work out their relationship. Cesar wanted them to come out as a committed couple (which they were). Power wanted a career. At one point Romero flew to Spain where Ty was filming Solomon & Sheba Returning encouraged César hopefully told Hedda Hopper he was "Looking forward to his BIG ANNOUNCEMENT my caballero". Power chickened out.. No announcement. Romero moved out of their home in Bel Air. All this drama with the boys delayed Strickland's beard roll out. Lana was pissed and fuming she was being contracted to sit around as not being seen with Ty did not help her fledgling brand .Power's last big premiere was for Witness For The Prosecution and Ty brought his usual date partner/mate/boyfriend/maricón Cesar Romero. The premiere of his next film Solomon & Sheba should all go well is at the London Film Festival Oct 8 . Since Power and Romero are now quits Ty will finally be sporting facial hair on Oct 8. Power's CAREER for which he sacrificed his partner of 10 long years Cesar Romero appears ready to blow up along with his heart. Hope it was worth it Ty.

^ THANK YOU! finally some names we recognize!

(R9) Nick’s PR team is pathetic! Now, anytime they try to make people believe he is straight it’s going to make people not like Galitzine more!! And they get paid fir this🥺

R53 We wish you were right but that is not how "the business" works. Galitzine dumping his partner of six years Austin Kevith was a savy career move. No young gay actor aspiring to leading man A List has ever lost fans by remaining closeted. Galitzine's career is on the cusp of blowing up. He can not afford to alienate his fan gurl/frau base. They are beyond gullible and wired to instantly accept their Cum Kitty as a heterosexual stud. With He-Man his big release next year he can not piss off the straight incel fan boys either. They already loath the idea of He-Man being a homo. His PR team gets paid big bucks to craft his brand. Even if it bears zero resemblance to the real Bambi Galitzine. He is following their advise as he wants a BIG CAREER like Timothee Charlamet. Nick will do what it takes . With his true partner Kevitch gone look for his team to unveil his long hidden Insta- Beard Cameron Valentina Eyre very soon. Welcome to Phoneywood R53.

^ he already has "dead eyes" the closet kills.

R53 Don't feel sorry for Galitizine. Austin & Bambi had their happiness for 6 years. That's more then many get.

[quote] With He-Man his big release next year he can not piss off the straight incel fan boys either. They already loath the idea of He-Man being a homo.

He-Man has always been gay-coded since its inception.

R33, Freddy got fingered??

R57 only to you granny not to X fan bois who they are hoping will buy the tickets.

'This guy looks gay not like the He-Man I remember."

R21 you may be the naive one. As R32 said, the Bridgerton fraus, who are well aware Jonathon Bailey is gay, will burn you at the stake if you dare criticize "Kanthony", the [straight] pairing of which he is half, and which has been hands-down the most popular since the series began. The good ole boys who love dinosaurs admittedly watch Jurassic movies almost solely for the critters, but when they do consider the human contribution, Bailey's character is decidedly the fan favorite. They even loved and identified with the scene where he cried.

Agreed, he's not A-list yet because he hasn't had to carry a major movie, but bear in mind that Wicked and Jurassic, both in the global box office Top 10 of the year, were his FIRST American films.

R60 you're not naive you're THICK if you can't see the difference between the audience for a frau frock & bonnet streamer actor and a big screen super hero actor.

R47 conservatives are exclusionary of others' freedoms and happiness. If they feel excluded, perhaps that is an outgrowth of their starting point. People react to where they are speaking from.

R61 Bambi-Man can't resist big balls,

R62, you're moving the goalposts like they're a thimble-and-pea trick. You were the one who introduced frock and bonnet streamer fans, at R21. You said the gatekeepers were worried about them finding out anyone was gay because they wanted to shag their heroes. You were wrong.

R21 didn't mention super hero actors, and if you had, I'd have said the conversation is not worth having. Superhero movies are dead in the water globally. They're still scratching a profit in the US, but that's all. The reason is that nobody (least of all women) wants to hear any more that American men with 1950s ideas of masculinity are here to tell us what to do and save us. We hear that every day from your idiot politicians and switch off the TV. The only people who want that message are members of that group itself. Global box office for Superman and Fantastic Four suggests it's not a very big group. (Whereas Jurassic, led by a woman and a gay man, and Wicked, which cautions against autocrats and their propaganda, will both be in the global box office Top 10 for 2025.)

Times have changed since the comic book surge of the early 2000s, and they have changed very strongly around respect for America and respect for "he-men". Mr Galatzine would have been much better advised to keep his nice boyfriend and go on doing romcoms and historical dramas opposite whichever sex is required. I suspect that would have been a much more durable career.

R64 agree that Bambi was poorly advised. However he has made his empty bed and the successful career path for A-list Hollywood leading man is still and will always be hetero normative. 'Woke is not Box Office hon. As much as you'd like it to be.

R11- I know that Brad Pitt is a HOMOSEXUAL that’s old news but are suggesting that Robert Redford was gay too?

No. He was not.

R66 English is your SECOND language?

Long ago I had heard rumors that Redford had a penchant for young blond boys (barely legal), which is how he first came to spend so much time in Colorado. If true, Redford was more likely bisexual since he was married with children as well.

You’re nutz^^

R65, I am not talking "woke". Not discussing representation. All I am saying is that the John Wayne model of masculinity is on the nose now with a much larger section of the population than you, or Hollywood, has recognised.

Look at the audience demographics for this year's comic book superhero releases, and the tragic lack of interest in them outside the US. It's staring everyone in the face that an era is over. As usual, it will take those who don't want that to be true a while to catch up.

R71 If you think in the current political atmosphere in USA and rise of authoritarianism worldwide the John Wayne model of masculinity does not represent the mass audience is passe and not box office you are living in a dream world. Dream on hon.

Ryan Seacrest will tell them to beard.

Cory Booker agrees with Ryan.

R30, women who read/write gay fanfic is a small niche