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Was Victor Frankenstein gay or bisexual?

I’m currently reading Frankenstein. I think the fact that it’s written by a woman makes the male narrators all seem feminine. First of all, the opening narrator, Robert Walton, sounds really gay the way he longs for a male friend.

Victor seems to love his friend Henry Clerval. He’s in no rush to marry Elizabeth. Why is he traveling with Clerval and enjoying the beautiful, romantic cruise through Switzerland instead of sharing it with Elizabeth?

Plus, this particular text had me chuckling — “Clerval desired the INTERCOURSE of the men of genius and talent who flourished at this time; but this was with me a secondary object.” It’s like they’re a gay couple who want to check out the gay scene in London.

Thoughts?

by Anonymousreply 21October 18, 2025 3:51 PM

I was Dr. Frankenstein's Kelly Preston

by Anonymousreply 1September 27, 2025 6:35 PM

Well - she did write it while sharing a villa near Lake Geneva with her bisexual husband and bisexual Lord Byron, who he was fucking around with.

She began writing it during the Summer that wasn't - when the world was covered with the ash from a massive volcano explosion.

Writing it during a summer when temps were like late fall or early winter and constant rain. Must have felt like the world had gone upside down.

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by Anonymousreply 2September 27, 2025 6:47 PM

You mean the story that inspired The Rocky Horror Show might be read as non-heteronormative?

by Anonymousreply 3September 27, 2025 7:01 PM

Today, at 18, when she started started writing the novel, she would be labeled a " Gen Z" wanna-be influencer.

by Anonymousreply 4September 27, 2025 8:34 PM

What knockers!

by Anonymousreply 5September 27, 2025 8:36 PM

Frankenstein was written at a time when "courtly" love between men was fashionable. Women were seen as less-than, so a man could only truly love another man as an equal. In a strictly-hetero way, of course!

by Anonymousreply 6September 27, 2025 10:18 PM

Her husband and Byron fucked, so she knew about gay sex. Percy loved sucking on Byron's clubfoot. How could this man not be gay ( clubfoot and all)?

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by Anonymousreply 7September 28, 2025 2:22 AM

I don't know but am appreciative that she created an enduring and sympathetic monster in her book.

by Anonymousreply 8September 28, 2025 3:52 AM

After finishing the book, I’ve come to view Frankenstein as a metaphor for the dangers of closeted, suppressed homosexuality. The creature represents Victor’s homosexual desires he’s ashamed of and trying to keep hidden and run away from.

Victor is engaged to Elizabeth. He’s expected to live a heteronormative life. But he has a desire to create life. He leaves his family and Elizabeth to go to school and create a creature. Once he creates the creature, he rejects it and he’s ashamed and keeps it secret.

His male best friend Henry is the one who takes care of him and nurses him back to health after he gets sick.

Once the creature begins staling him and killing his friends and family, the creature says he’ll leave Victor alone if Victor makes him a mate. So Victor delays his wedding to Elizabeth and goes off on a cruise with Henry, whom he loves so much, and complete his work for the creature.

Victor starts creating the bride, but feels ashamed and destroys it. The creature retaliates by murdering Henry. When Victor killed his bride project, he killed his gay lover and chance at freedom and happiness. The creature warns Victor, “I’ll be with you on your wedding night “

Victor thinks the creature plans to kill him on his wedding night, but instead, the creature kills Elizabeth. This is a metaphor for how a man’s closeted, repressed homosexuality is harmful to the woman he marries.

At the end, Victor dies and the creature disappears. If Victor had simply accepted the creature (his homosexuality) from the beginning instead of rejecting it, the creature would not have gone on a murdering rampage and there would have been a better outcome and Henry and Elizabeth wouldn’t have died.

by Anonymousreply 9October 15, 2025 12:14 AM

No! Say it! He vuz...my boyfriend!

by Anonymousreply 10October 15, 2025 12:24 AM

R2, you know who else was there? John William Polidori, Lord Byron’s physician and possible kept boy.

He was an interesting character. He had a crush on Mary Shelley, but he was really enamored with Lord Byron. He was jealous whenever Byron paid attention to Mary or her sister Claire. He envied Byron,

That summer when Mary began writing Frankenstein, Polidori began writing Vampyre, the first novel about a vampire. It’s about a young man who becomes the traveling companion of an aristocratic man who is really a vampire, perhaps the way Polidori viewed his relationship with Byron.

Polidori also kept a diary and wrote about an incident where Percy Shelley and Byron wrestled nude, like in the movie Women in Love.

Polidori was very jealous over Byron. They had a tumultuous relationship. They ended up getting into a carriage accident where Polidori suffered severe head trauma and Byron fired him and discarded him afterwards.

Polidori ended up committing suicide because he never became as successful as the Shelleys or Byron. He got kicked out of the popular crowd.

by Anonymousreply 11October 15, 2025 12:28 AM

I read it that he was a weak and immature man who ran away from his responsibilities to the life he created. Basically a deadbeat dad.

by Anonymousreply 12October 15, 2025 12:28 AM

For a while it was announced Froy Gutierrez was going to be in a movie of Polidori's Vampyre. The was even some preliminary art work. It was supposed to be filmed in Europe. Then it disappeared.

by Anonymousreply 13October 15, 2025 2:25 AM

*There was

by Anonymousreply 14October 15, 2025 2:26 AM

I wonder if the upcoming new Frankenstein film directed by Guillermo del Toro will allude to Victor’s homosexuality.

by Anonymousreply 15October 15, 2025 3:29 AM

Victor doesn't actually exist.

by Anonymousreply 16October 15, 2025 4:40 AM

R15, Henry doesn’t appear to be in it.

Also, I think Oscar Isaac is old for the role. Victor is supposed to be in his 20s. He’s supposed to be young, handsome and charismatic.

by Anonymousreply 17October 15, 2025 5:04 AM

No.

Gays are as bad as Black Americans and Pan Africanism. This is similar to Beethoven, Jesus, and Cleopatra being black.

I think it’s more of a study of gender roles than homosexuality as men dominate a book about birth and life. The idea a man could create birth.

I don’t think it’s sexual as it’s symbolic to gender roles.

by Anonymousreply 18October 15, 2025 5:23 AM

I’m watching the 1994 version with Kenneth Brannagh, Robert De Niro, and Helena Bonham Carter.

Damn, that movie is like a cheap TV movie. The execution is so poor.

by Anonymousreply 19October 15, 2025 6:14 AM

[quote] Was Victor Frankenstein gay or bisexual?

Only in the Chicago company.

by Anonymousreply 20October 18, 2025 2:49 PM

I'd have to see the dick he chose for the monster.

by Anonymousreply 21October 18, 2025 3:51 PM
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