Giant violent protest breaks out in UK

Why don't they want to celebrate diversity?

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100,000 people in a country of 66 million is not a big whoop imho.

R1, supports Nazis.

R3, that’s huge and the current government is now listening to their demands. They can no longer ignore it. It’s the general mood across the country. Nigel Farage is going to be PM soon.

The treacly old British population is dying out. Almost all of the blue collar/service industry jobs (medical, restaurant, public transportation, etc.) are occupied by dark-skinned immigrants. If they were all to disappear, the whole country would grind to a standstill.

The left in europe pushed the envelope too far.

R6 Making stuff up about a country you've only ever seen on youtube videos is fun, isn't it?

Read.

^ Ya gotta love this line in the article: "many sectors recruit internationally-born workers." And perhaps therein lies the problem.

Two things stuck out to me. There was a massive increase in foreign-born workers when Britain de-colonized in the late 1940s and onward. The laws, which cannot be attributed to right-wing or left-wing, since those definitions have changed over time, were written to allow colonists from the Commonwealth to have citizenship in Britain if they wanted it - and a lot did.

B. Since Brexit and the loss of EU workers in Britain, other nationalities have rushed in to fill the void. Why is there a void? Well, demographics tell the story. Without immigrants, just as in most of Europe and North America, population would be declining fairly rapidly, and essential jobs, such as in health care, could not be covered with existing citizens.

The issue isn’t foriegn born doctors and nurse and other professionale. The issue is un controlled mass immigration.

^sorry for the typos

And here we are…

That article should be clarified for Americans, who have a two-party system. Those are parliamentary systems, where there are multiple parties. Top of the polls means in this instance, that these right-wing parties poll perhaps 25% at most. It's hard to say how that would play out in national elections, since most of the other parties will NOT consent to forming a coalition government with these far-right parties. It's more likely that center-right and center-left parties will reluctantly join together to form a coalition govt in a national election.

It should not be forgotten that Steve Bannon has been running a school in Europe for a decade now training far-right leaders in how to increase membership. Deliberate misinformation and scapegoating immigrants is top of the list of his course offerings.

Of course, he's been doing the same in the US

[quote]It should not be forgotten that Steve Bannon has been running a school in Europe for a decade now training far-right leaders in how to increase membership.

Total bullshit. That is not true.

[quote]That article should be clarified for Americans, who have a two-party system. Those are parliamentary systems, where there are multiple parties. Top of the polls means in this instance, that these right-wing parties poll perhaps 25% at most. It's hard to say how that would play out in national elections, since most of the other parties will NOT consent to forming a coalition government with these far-right parties. It's more likely that center-right and center-left parties will reluctantly join together to form a coalition govt in a national election.

It is foolish to think this popular sentiment will not affect policy.

[quote]Deliberate misinformation and scapegoating immigrants is top of the list of his course offerings.

Oh really? Show us those course offerings.

r17 and r18, I'm sad for you that you thought you could magically make something true not true because you snapped your fingers and said so.

Now you simply look stupid and uniformed.

For our resident idiot at R19: The quote I was responding to was this:

"It should not be forgotten that Steve Bannon has been running a school in Europe for a decade now training far-right leaders in how to increase membership."

That statement is untrue.

Furthermore: since that 2024 ruling there is still no school.

Got it now?

The Movement is a Brussels-based organization founded by American political strategist Steve Bannon to promote right-wing populist and economic nationalist groups in Europe that are opposed to the European Union governments and political structures of Europe.[3][4] The organization was expected to hire 10 full-time staff in Brussels before the 2019 European Parliament election.[5][6] In January 2017, Mischaël Modrikamen, leader of the People's Party in Belgium, officially registered the group.[7][8]

Background Bannon initially discussed his plans for the organization with The Daily Beast, saying he wanted to create a populist "supergroup" bloc that could win up to a third of all 700+ Members of the European Parliament seats. He said he thought of the idea when he was invited to speak at an event hosted by Marine Le Pen.[9] Bannon also believes that Sweden's 2018 elections created the perfect timing to launch The Movement.[10]

The Movement stands as a counterpoint to George Soros' Open Society Foundations. Bannon has referred to Soros as "evil but brilliant", and expressed a desire to promote nationalism instead of globalism.[9]

Interest and support In July 2018, Bannon and other staff of Donald Trump met with Prime Minister of the Republika Srpska, Željka Cvijanović, in Washington, D.C., attempting to expand influence in the Balkans.[11][12]

The Movement has attracted the attention of Prime Minister of Hungary, Viktor Orbán, who spoke positively of the group.[13] In September 2018, then Deputy Prime Minister of Italy, Matteo Salvini, joined Bannon's new Eurosceptic network.[14] The UK Independence Party also stated they would work with the group.[15]

Since then, The Movement has also attracted the attention of Geert Wilders, leader of the Party for Freedom, an Eurosceptic opposition party in the Netherlands. Wilders said he arranged to meet Bannon in the Netherlands to discuss the group.[10] Another such contact is Thierry Baudet, leader of another Eurosceptic opposition party in the Netherlands Forum for Democracy.[citation needed]

Their first meeting in July 2018 was organized and attended by Nigel Farage.[16] In September 2018, it was reported that France's National Rally party (formerly National Front), led by Marine Le Pen, would be joining The Movement.[17]

Got it now?

[quote] There was a massive increase in foreign-born workers when Britain de-colonized in the late 1940s and onward.

Joining the EU in the 70s is when Britain really started to prosper via European worker. They weren’t bringing in shiploads of third worlders.

I don't disagree totally^. While manufacturing in Britain cratered in the 1990s and has continued, London reinvented itself as an international banking and stockbrokering center - as much or more than NYC. That drove tremendous growth in the metropolitan region - while disguising or ignoring the anemic economic situation of all other parts of England and Britain. The international workers were also bilingual, giving England a banking edge when dealing with Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Poland and other regions.

But the rural and industrial parts of Britain were not sharing equally in the prosperity and voted for Brexit. So now London has declined in prestige as an international banking city, regulations for trade with the EU are much more complicated now, overall economic peformance has lagged, and there is no source of educated European labor willing to work for slightly lower wages coming from poorer nations in the EU. And yet, there are many jobs needing filling. One of the largest segments of new immigrants to England are coming from East Asia. They are well-educated and I would not describe them as third-worlders. However, there is also a large segment from sub-Saharan Africa. There, the tale is mixed. Some are well-educated, many are not.

"The U.K. economy is worse off today than before Brexit, according to new analysis from Goldman Sachs. Britain’s decision to leave the European Union has hampered the economy to the tune of 5% versus other comparable countries, the estimates showed. The Wall Street bank attributed the shortfall to three key factors: reduced trade; weaker business investment; and lower immigration from the EU."

R21 and she insists! By now you are obviously trollng: there is no school.

I hate all this, along with all the England flags going up, which is obviously to intimidate.

My sister-in-law is an immigrant to the UK. She moved here after meeting my brother when we were still in the EU, so she gained settled status once we left the EU. She's lived here for 15 years now and has always worked full time, paid taxes, never claimed any benefits etc. I spoke to her just last week and she said this is the first time she's ever felt unwelcome in the UK.

I know that as she's a white European immigrant that works full time she's not the target of these protests, but she said the whole anti immigrant ethos does affect even people like her. She's even recently had a few people give her looks or ignore her once they've heard her accent.

[QUOTE]The issue isn’t foriegn born doctors and nurse and other professionale. The issue is un controlled mass immigration

No it isn't R12.

The issue is these people don't like non-Caucasian people.

If someone emigrates from the USA or Australia or wherever and they're white, these fascists don't care. Because they don't look different.

It's pure and simple racism.

Saw a clip earlier with Elon Musk right there in the middle of what's happening in the UK and he's agitating the situation for all he's worth.

R26 People want immigrants from cultures that a similar to theirs.

I have a Brit friend, a banker, very liberal, fine with migrants from Africa, Asia and looks down on these working class protests over immigration.

He lives in the Cotswolds, an area of Britain where it is 96% white.

I don't care where immigrants come from. But I live in London and I delight in its multi-culturalism.

When these fascists talk of "culture" they usually mean Islamic culture. Islam is largely, but not exclusively, followed by, oh look - brown people (again).

It's racism.

And for what it's worth, I'm an atheist. I think Islam is just as stupid as Christianity.

I don't hate people for what they believe or where they come from or how they look.

I might hate individual people if they're nasty or unpleasant but that's on the individual, not their culture.

Comin' over 'ere

People aren't opposed to their Indian doctor. Theyre opposed to imported tape gangs where the victims were vilified and there was an organized cover up through the institutions.

R28 [quote] I have a Brit friend, a banker, very liberal, fine with migrants from Africa, Asia and looks down on these working class protests over immigration.

Of course. Exactly what you say. It's always the people who dont feel the conaequences because they love in a 96 percent non-immigtwnt neighbourhood like on your example. Everyone who raises a valid concern is literally Hitler.

Then the problem is with the rape gangs - the individual members of those rape gangs. They don't represent a culture, a race, a country any more than you or I do. They represent themselves.

If I commit a crime, am I representing all gay white men? No.

I would like to be in charge of strip searching all of the HOT Muslim guys- full cavity.

R34 That's probably the needle in a haystack. The haystack:

[quote]People aren't opposed to their Indian doctor.

They are. They can’t understand them and Indian doctors are notorious for having a bad bedside manner.

Oh dear.

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