Dateline Port Charles: Drew in the ICU, Ric in the Basement

Continued from prior thread

Why can’t Monica be another long-lost Lord? Maybe she got lost in the secret room? Victor got AROUND.

I need VIKI.

Ironically, I had the same thought. Why can’t Erika Slezak be on the show as Viki and also be Monica’s sister? After all, Monica was an orphan (even though we never quite understood where her cousin Lorena sharpe fit it) AND Victor Lord did have a history of playing around. Could actually be kinda plausible. Added bonus, if Viki did turn up in PC she could out Isaiah as a Llanview Gannon.

Plus, aren’t rumors saying that her character is Monica’s long lost sister, and has ties to someone else in the canvas?

Is Nathan Patrick's brother the one who killed Lisa Niles? I loved that bitch.

Why bother tying Slee's brand new special guest character to another GH character when they've already bought her return flight home?

Guess if the show hadn't already killed off most of the characters that Monica interacted with for all her years on the show, they wouldn't have to bring Slee in as a day player to help pad out Monica's memorial storyline.

No, his brother was Matt Hunter

I'd give the Viki thing more credibility if Monica was her only supposed connection, but previews/rumors have suggested Slee's character is also going to be Brennan's mother.

I discovered this on YouTube and have gone down a 1978 GH rabbit hole. I'm sharing just in case some of you want to join me.

I think Ric got out of the basement, shot Drew and then got that ball gag back in his mouth.

Thanks r9.

The most pressing question: Is that a wig on him?

The guy in OP’s pic looks F2M trans (?)

I shake my head at the Ric in the basement thing. Are they going to attach him to a garage door opener like Dabney coleman in 9 to 5? What do they do when he needs to use the bathroom or feed him? And Alexis was worried about having scout in the house with him in the basement. Uh, shouldn’t she be more worried about Molly finding him? As for the ball-gag…my money was that Ava happened to have one in her purse.

[quote]What do they do when he needs to use the bathroom or feed him?

In soapland, prisoners never need to use the bathroom. They also need minimum food. Don't you know that. One of the basic rules of soap operas.

The prisoner will will also somehow come out of captivity freshly shaven and with a fashionable haircut. Sometime, they even manage to get highlights put in their hair while in captivity or in a coma.

What r15 said

R12. Howard Cosell laughs at that chinchilla on his head.

Maybe Slee will have Faison's brain?

I think it's better that she's not Viki. She would have to explain what's going on with everyone in Llanview, and that would just piss off the GH fans. Plus, the actress is 80 years old, and I'm sure she wants to sink her teeth into something new while updating her SAG insurance.

[quote]R19 I think it's better that she's not Viki… I'm sure she wants to sink her teeth into something new

Here’s betting the character will be played exactly like Viki, no matter what the name.

Do any of these soap stars show actual variety when they jump from show to show?

Austin Peck definitely showed growth when he was on ATWT. Camila Banus improved when she went from OLTL to DOOL even though I didn't care for either character. James Scott never got to shine on AMC, but he was great on DOOL.

But, did they create specifically different characters?

I'd say Heather Tom showed range between her stints at Y&R, OLTL, and now B&B. Her Kelly Cramer was a lot different than her Victoria Newman.

I think Erika Slezak showed she could play characters other than Viki when she became Niki, Jean, Tory, Princess, etc.

I wouldn't mind attending the November Private Dinner with Chris McKenna and Rory Gibson in Chicago.

Remember when Sonny was fucking poor Emily, and Jason was NOT having it?

And when Sonny attacked 90 90-year-old Edward.

Erika Slezak just wants some Sunny California in her life . Maybe there are more prune commercials in her future

R27 So Sonny/Mo was always this vile?

Yes but he was regarded as a villain so it was more tolerable. It was only when he also became town hero along the way that it got really nauseating.

I hope Slee is Vicki, and that she meets up with her son Joey, who is deep under cover as Agent Brennan.

Slee is The Third Victoria.

Get that black bitch outta the comments about me!!!

ShrewLu and Snarly in a scene together might as well just be two yapping hyenas screeching.

[quote]Slee's character is also going to be Brennan's mother.

They can joke about having only one life to live.

MAGA Robert Adamson is basically fellating Charlie Kirk’s headless corpse in his IG stories. I’m glad Frank never hired him permanently.

Sometimes it's better not to post your feelings when it's obviously stupid

He still had his head...

Whenever I hear Robert Adamson mentioned or he's filled in on GH I am reminded of the story back when he and his girlfriend Linsey Godfrey were both on B&B. She was hit by a car while walking on the sidewalk and had extensive surgery/recovery. She banged on in an interview about how it was Thorsten Kaye who came over and fed her soup during her recovery. Must have been one awful relationship if she felt the need to tell the world her co-worker was nursing her and not her baby daddy. They broke up around the same time, I think they had a small child.

I don't watch B&B but was scrolling recently and caught a recent glimpse of Thorsten. He's morphing into Mr. French from Family Affair. I knew the fans call him hobo Ridge but I didn't know he had digressed so much since his Zach Slater/AMC days which is where I know him from.

So, who do you guys think will get the house that Alan gave to Monica after she dies? I’m thinking Jason or Michael, but my money is on Michael. It would be interesting if Drew manages to fake her will, gets the manse and kicks all the Qs to the curb. Then he could live there with Willow and Scout in that great, big house.

R40. Good thoughts! I'm guessing its Jason who inherits the mansion with a codecil that he allows everyone currently living there to stay. Her ELQ shares and personal fortune get divided up amongst the next generations. Tracy gets nothing...which sets her off!

Typical DL thinking that the only people who could inherit the Q mansion would be someone with a penis, who knows nothing about the day to day running of the house and grounds.

I imagine it will be Tracy. They recently had Martin make a point of irritating Tracy by reminding her it's Monica's house (no idea how he knows that history). It should go to Tracy. Fuck Jason, and Michael -- they both opted to be Sonny's bitches. And Tracy was the one who fought like hell to save the crypt (which is how I thought they would reveal Monica had died).

Also, won't Tracy already get set off when she sees Willow sporting Lila's wedding ring? Willow might lose a finger.

Monica will unintentionally leave the house to her sister Erika Slezak. Tracy will fight the sister for the house in court which will involve many family members and PC residents. Tracy eventually wins. Erika collects her big fat paycheck and goes back to Connecticut.

And scene.

End scene

I stand corrected, r45!

The Third Victoria will decide.

I would love to see Lucy Coe somehow get the Q mansion.

I don’t think she’d leave it to Tracey—she wouldn’t want to give her that kind of power. She leaves it Jason or Michael then Tracey needs to stay in their good graces.

[quote] She leaves it Jason or Michael then Tracey needs to stay in their good graces.

When has she ever done that? Besides, she's proven over the years just how much she loves Jason and Michael.

She should leave it to Michael. The better story is leaving it to Jason.

Monica will end up leaving it to Gio.

A good description of Rory's pretty but somewhat limited acting chops.

"I remember just, obviously, focusing on the scene and having to be like, ‘Okay, intense. Brood, brood, brood...."

His acting is lackluster but he's so nice to look at.

Yeah, R53, I don’t get the raves. He’s a refreshing change of pace from Duell but he’s shown zero depth or range.

I think he's playing what's on the page and as directed.

So they're writing and directing Rory as Michael as ‘Okay, intense. Brood, brood, brood...." and before Chad as Michael as "‘Okay, look at floor, Wince, Wince, wince...."?

Reallly good soap actors bring subtext that isn’t in the workmanlike scripts.

Man, Lulu's wardrobe is AWFUL. She looked like Captain Crunch this week.

[quote]Reallly good soap actors bring subtext that isn’t in the workmanlike scripts.

More seasoned actors, perhaps. Without rehearsal and more hands-on direction, younger actors struggle more. I think Rory is excelling in the role, far from perfect, but I've seen worse.

Fair, R60. I just think about Nicholas Chavez giving a genuinely surprising, complex, layered performance within a few months of his arrival, but that’s a once-in-a-generation thing.

[quote]I just think about Nicholas Chavez giving a genuinely surprising, complex, layered performance within a few months of his arrival, but that’s a once-in-a-generation thing.

And Chavez did it so effortlessly that we as viewers tend to assume all actors can do it effortlessly.

I think Rory is doing a great job. I'm much more interested in Michael now than I ever was when Duell was in the role. Only times I was ever interested in Duell's Michael was when he was feuding with Sonny.

Don't get me wrong, Duell was perfectly adequate in the role of Michael. He just wasn't terribly exciting in it either.

Yes, Rory could add some depth and a bit more expression to his performance. Perhaps that will come in time. He's still adjusting to the amount of material GH is giving him, compared to what Y&R gave him for the 18 months he was in Genoa City.

Rory was a downer at Y&R and he is playing that same downer at GH. I don’t see any acting range from him. Downer downer downer.

Now that he has a few paychecks under his belt, Rory needs to work in some sessions with acting coach Holly Gagnier as so many of GH's younger/less experienced have done. NAC, Avery Pohl, Tanisha Harper, Gio.

I mean...I like Rory, but this was a miscast. Ingo is on the warpath because of something NLG posted about Kirk on IG or Threads. He looks good, tho.

It's weird to me that they wrote in a standard "seriously burned" story to switch actors. Almost always that's excuse for the new look, but not here. Michael's face was never burned yet now we have someone who looks 180 different. It doesn't bother me because the show already requires Herculean suspensions of disbelief every day, but I just thought that was an odd choice as writers for them to make and not use.

Overtime Michael has gone from redhead to blond to now dark brunet.

Ingo? I don't know her.

Ingo hasn’t gained any IQ points, it seems.

I’m with R67. I had to laugh. They had Chad wrapped up in a hospital bed yet his hair and face were fully exposed—despite being in the explosion and fire. Standard soap protocol should have had him wrapped like a mummy

Fun Saturday activity: Let's list the unsolved crimes that are piling up in Port Charles and that the police don't seem interested in investigating. I'll go first: the bombing of Sonny's apartment that burnt milquetoast Michael nearly to a crisp (only to give us hunky Michael).

R65 — do the actors have to pay out of pocket for Gagnier’s coaching or does production pay?

I’ve always wondered about this, even back to when Larkin Malloy, Lisa Brown, and others were coaching on soap sets.

I'm not sure what it's like now, but back in the day, when these shows had money, some shows had on-set talent coaches, paid for by production. Most actors are usually in various acting classes, and those are paid for out of pocket by the actor. Almost every show is now live to tape (for lack of a better term). If actors don't seek out each other to rehearse or work out scenes, it doesn't get done.

Avery Pohl and Katey MacMullen did a Zoom with Holly Gagnier and Michael Fairman. They definitely hired her.

Ingo can't even get hired for the rightwing Christian movies that employ Kevin Sorbo and Dean Cain?

If Rory gets fired how many steps is he away from gay porn?

Could Swickard join in his porn debut with Jabottom

Why does Ingo feel the need to police what NLG says?

R47, it's Sleestack if you're nasty.

Why does anyone care what a fired loser says?

Please don’t post links to give him more attention.

R72 I think that was out of the show's budget.

[quote]Ingo is on the warpath because of something NLG posted about Kirk on IG or Threads. He looks good, tho.

Yes, Ingo looks good in that video. Too good for a 54 year old man. No visible wrinkles, perfect skin. Clearly he is still dying his hair blonde, but also must have gotten some botox. Or maybe even plastic surgery.

What is the see you in court references he makes? Is he still trying to sue ABC over the vaccine mandate? Or has he come up with some new reason to sue GH?

And how in the world is Nancy Lee Grahn's texts and social media postings involved with all this?

When did Ingo get sucked into the MAGA cult? 20 years ago, he seemed smart and reasonable.

[quote]And how in the world is Nancy Lee Grahn's texts and social media postings involved with all this?

Yeah, I was wondering about that myself. Seemed odd to hear those repeated references to having copies of all her posts and texts and implying they would be used in court.

Is Ingo now trying to sue ABC for discriminating against conservatives and Republican? And using NLG's liberal comment as proof the show favors liberal and Democrats?

Bring back the Vampires.

I get the comments on Rory, but Chad had two looks -- confused and constipated.

Rory's Scott Bryce compared to Chad

I think Monica will leave the house to Ned and Olivia.

Jason was not her son. His parents were Alan, Susan, and Sonny. Michael should get it, though. He's her grandson. I can't believe Moncia's children -- AJ, Dawn, and Emily -- all preceded her in death.

[quote]If Rory gets fired how many steps is he away from gay porn?

Not that I'd mind seeing Rory in full extension, r76, but why in the world would they fire him? He's magnificent.

[quote]Why can’t Erika Slezak be on the show as Viki and also be Monica’s sister?

Linda Dano will be back as snooping analyst Rae to uncover that this is indeed one of Viki's alters.

R83 EXACTLY. Ingo is seeking revenge in any way he can.

Whatever happened to the actor who played Dex? I can't even remember his name right now.

Dex and Joss fit well because they are both attractive without being too pretty. Vaughan's model looks makes Joss look like a wet dog.

Evan Hofer, R89. He’s shown up at a few fan events since leaving GH, but there have been no acting gigs that I can discern.

DAYS should cast him as Tripp now that Lucas Adams has moved on to Y&R.

I would love to see Erika as Viki who, she has learned, has a half sister in Monica due to Victor Lord's continuous fathering of kids. Then she discovers her son Joey has changed his identity and is the local WSB bureau chief.

[quote] I can't believe Moncia's children -- AJ, Dawn, and Emily -- all preceded her in death.

And some of them more than once. I wonder what they did with all the duplicate crypts in the family mausoleum?

R71 - Not sure if this counts, but did they ever "solve" Kate Howard's murder? I think everyone knows it was Ava, but I don't recall her ever being charged or tried (let alone convicted) of the crime.

It would be easier to try to counter the number of crimes that the PCPD has actually solved. But I can't think of any.

I'm hoping that at the trail for Drew's shooting, some of these secrets, like Sonny shooting Jagger, come out.

I'm still on my GH 1978 deep dive. This one has some early Tracey, Monica, and Alan that I found interesting, with Monica's death coming up.

R97 - Thanks for the treat. Funny how everyone jokes how slow and silly soaps were back then yet I found that episode immensely entertaining compared to what we have now. There was just a different energy. It's hard to explain.

Anyway, funny to see Tracy as a blonde, Mary O'Brien playing Heather, and a reminder of how hot Jeff Webber was. Monica also seemed to be softer then. I guess all those years of being a Quartermaine hardened her up.

Ingo is probably hoping with the return of The Orange Menace that any court case he has would be considered in a more positive light.

They should give Ingo a new contract and force Jax to return as Jacqueline and lecture Alexis for not being progressive enough.

Someone should tell Ingo that ABC/GH is doing exactly that (making Jax trans) and see what he says/does. 🤣

[quote][R97] - Thanks for the treat.

You're welcome. I've found all of it really fascinating. It was a very different show back then.

-I didn't know that Rick had adopted Laura.

-I knew that Laura was a mess, but I didn't know how sweet she and Scotty were together. It now makes sense to me why Marland was not on board with the Luke/Laura romance - all the rape stuff aside.

- I also didn't know that Tracey has been Tracey since the very beginning.

- Alan and Monica are living in an apartment. I was under the impression that Qs was an old-line Port Charles family, but that's not the case. The mansion is the marital home of Alan and Monica, and the rest of the Qs just moved in. Now the house being Monica's makes sense to me.

- I love Bobbie and Nurse Jessie together. Also, this version of Bobbie is so much fun. I love that she hates Laura.

-I also like the awkwardness between Monica and Leslie. Monica plays nice and tries to build a friendship, while Leslie is uneasy—great subtext in their scenes.

My only issue is not the story, but the atrocious background music, which doesn't fit the scenes.

[quote] Tracey

Tracy.

R78 R82 R83 Ingo and Nancy Lee have a long standing feud; they equally can't stand each other and detested sharing scenes together, even though their characters were best friends. Ingo leaning towards the conservative side and having somewhat misogynistic views played into their feud.

I wish they would bring Jax back with a recast. He can see what a bang up job Carly has done with their daughter. Then when Ingo tries to sue it can be pointed out that B&B replaced Windsor Harmon with him! Show meet other foot

^ shoe

Would anyone have been bothered by Viki ending up as Monica's sister, even though there was a relationship between Michael and Starr? Obviously they wouldn't have been aware that they were cousins back then, except it probably wouldn't have sat well with the fraus.

Previews For Next Week

Monday, September 15th, 2025

Britt and Obrecht have it out.

Anna receives new evidence.

Carly expresses her hurt.

Drew manipulates Martin.

Marco confronts Sidwell.

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Tuesday, September 16th, 2025

Nina snaps.

Molly confides in Elizabeth.

Kristina encourages Cody.

Lucas opens up to Ava.

Emma and Giovanni get distressing news.

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Wednesday, September 17th, 2025

Jason delivers somber news.

Chase and Dante compare notes.

Cody is taken aback.

Britt has a scratchy encounter.

Kai makes an alarming realization.

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Thursday, September 18th, 2025

Britt swallows her pride.

Giovanni asks Sonny for a favor.

Tracy and Jason share a moment of connection.

Charlotte confides in Lulu.

Molly keeps a secret.

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Friday, September 19th, 2025

Lulu helps an accident victim.

Jason voices his regrets.

Elizabeth delivers bad news to Drew.

Danny issues a plea.

Giovanni comes through for Emma.

R100 R101 😊 😊

I get a fiendish delight thinking of Jax coming back to Port Charles to get a sex change operation and to bond with Terry. That would be a groundbreaking storyline.

Plus, having Jax lecture Alexis for not being woke and progressive enough would be delicious.

In addition to Ingo's ongoing feud with Nancy Lee Grahn, Ingo also made some anti-trans Twitter comments a few years back and then had to apologize to Cassandra James (Terry). So, this would be very appropriate storyline to make Ingo do.

R98, the writing on the show at the time was everything.

Douglas Marland was the head writer. I love the Gail/Monica scene. Gail does'nt want to come right out and say it, but she didn't want that bitch Tracy sticking around making newlywed Monica's life a living hell.

Tracy didn't care about the cardiac wing. She wanted to make sure Moncia and Alan's offspring didn't get his or her grubby hands on the money left in Uncle Edgar (or Grandfather Edgar's) will.

Monica was softened a bit at this piont; the whole reason Alan gave her the house was so that she'd have a power base when the shit hit the fan when Alan accused Monica of sleeping with Rick (she hadn't -- yet) and he tried to kick her out of the house. Not so fast, Alan. It's Monica's house.

Today, or until recently, that was used as a punchline. But there was a REASON the writers gave Monica the house.

O'Brien was brilliant as Heather; she gave the role a Sheila Carter quality. Lesley was the best heroine on soaps. Kids are lucky to get 'don't slam the door' but Lesley was willing to go to jail to protect Laura. This was the story that propelled GH to the top. That and the quadrangle with Rick Lesley Alan Monica, and Bobbie going after Scott.

Steve, Audrey, and Jessie were kept in the mix; Steve and Audrey with Jeff's paternity. Jessie with Dan and Bobbie.

I so wish that era was more on YouTube. ESPECIALLY the David Hamilton trial.

NAC at the Emmys.

I don't understand why he always has to pose with such a severe facial expression on red carpets. I understand models have to look fierce or whatever when they strut the catwalk but why does an actor have to put on this look. I find it off-putting.

NAC is still pissed that he, being the greatest actor of all time, didn’t get an Emmy nomination. lololololol

Miss Victoria Sleestack started taping last week at GH, per her website.

NAC’s lewk appears to have worked on Cooper Koch’s twin brother.

Uh oh, Carly. First they sent Lulu for your crown, shrieking and snapping at anyone within earshot. Now here's Britta, peeling the paint with her decibel 130 wailing at Mutter. Will there be a cunt-off at the Metro Court pool?

I chuckle that Watros is playing the more reserved character these days.

24 hours?!! Brennan has grossly overestimated Vaughn's stamina.

Anyone who accepts a bribe deserves to be murdered.

Port Charles needs way more attorneys. Like a 1 to 1 ratio with all the crimes committed.

I'm confused with this whole receipt thing. Wouldn't there be a bank account listed from which the money came? Sure. it's offshore and obfuscated, but the FBI could eventually figure it out. Sidwell might as well have Zelle'd the money to the judge.

[quote] I chuckle that Watros is playing the more reserved character these days.

I miss crazy Annie Dutton. She was glorious!

[quote]Port Charles needs way more attorneys. Like a 1 to 1 ratio with all the crimes committed.

Scotty is still missing in action.

Has Kin recovered enough from his foot surgery to return to work?

Pat Crowley who played Mary Scanlon, the matriarch of the Scanlon family on Port Charles, is Dead to Me.

Tony Geary, Tristan Rogers, Genie Francis and Gloria Monty prepping for an outdoor jungle or beach scene. Early 80s? Tristan looks great sans shirt. Tony not so much.

That would have been Summer 1981 while they were on an Island in the Caribbean or someplace in the Atlantic. Luke, Laura and Scorpio were on the beach and in the jungle of the island before they figured out how to get into the Cassadine underground lair.

Has Obrecht seen Britt yet?

^Yes, smacked her across the face too.

Obrecht saw Britt at the end of Thursday's show and fainted.

Then at the end of Friday's show Obrecht got into argument with Britt about allowing her mother to believe she was dead for two years. At very end of episode, Obrecht slapped her.

Wait until she finds out about Nathan. Liesl is going to sheiße her liederhosen.

[quote]Sidwell might as well have Zelle'd the money to the judge.

And the inept PCPD still would not be able to connect the two and solve the case.

For a while, it looked like they were planning to have Sidwell around for a long time, but he's quickly moving into Sonny villian-of-the-month territory.

You make an interesting point, R128. Maybe I missed it, but what is Sidwell's ultimate plan?

Actors who are brought in as opponents of sputtering Mo should know by taking a quick look at history that their employment will not be long term.

Carlo Rota's wife DA Turner may last longer than his Sidwell character though.

Apparently Carlo, his wife and Finola have become very close friends and socialize often. I wonder what they talk about over dinner and do sputtering Mo's ears burn.

More like what WAS Sidwell's ultimate plan. They were leaning him into Cassadine territory for a while, but they've completely dropped that and now seems like he'll also be floating in harbor by the end of the year in another Whodunnit.

Most likely due to the bigger bad reveal who has been funding the cold fusion research. But maybe they'll tie that to Brennan, as he has no future after the Joss reveal to Carly.

No plans for Brennan and Anna after Carly?

So the rumors coming out of 4151 Prospect Ave is that while Viki Sleestack’s character does indeed claim to be Monica’s sister, she is a con artist looking to cash in on the Q’s $$.

R133. That's the THIRD Viki Sleestack, thank you.

I have to laugh. Nina admitted to paying Ric’s fee because willow couldn’t afford him on her nurse’s salary. Yet I remember she got 5 mill from Michael in the divorce

Wonder if Slee will get first up taping rights as she did at OLTL.

Has Mo approached Slee about being on his show? He would have the gall to do that.

Viki, Niki, Tommy AND Princess will all be appearing on Mo's show.

Is Slee staying at the Oakwood Apartments during her time in Tinseltown?

R134 Get out of my face.

Mb could be a great acting mentor for slezak.

^He has an age requirement for his coaching service, likes them young. Perhaps he will make an exception for Slezak. As long as she doesn't cop an attitude like NAC and not show him any "respect".

Has Giolin fucked yet?

I'm starting to rethink the Gio thing. He keeps making this face, and it's not cute. It's like some acting coach told him to grimace through all of his scenes.

R136- I sure as FUCK hope not! Old bitch! It's NOT FAIR!

^ Uncle Frank loosened the boy up so much that he's grimacing from the strain of clenching -- not to have an "accident "

Britt seemed completely unfazed by hearing Sam died. Did she know about it already, or does she just not care? Her thinking Danny had something to do with the body in the harbor was amusing.

Does Lucas actually think Britt faked her own death just so Brad could win him back?!

R135 - You must have missed the scene where Drew convinced Willow to donate her $5M windfall to his reelection campaign that will win her kids back.

Willow was a schoolteacher and now a nurse, yet she is an imbecile. Did she get her licenses from inside a box of Lucky Charms? She grew up in a cult so I'm wondering if she even went to school let alone get the required college degrees for those professions.

R146 LOL! I’m sure Uncle Frank has the big italian sausage!

Most of us are completely unfazed by hearing Sam died. I don't recall any storylines between Britt and Sam, let alone any memorable scenes.

I miss Uncle Frankie's sausage.

Who is the cute Bear Cub at OP's link?

That's Josh Swickard and his wiglet.

Younger, nonbewigged photos of Josh

Damn, he looks good here

At least with the Poconos princess gone my living room doesn't smell like Marlboro menthols seeping through my television set

Britt had an iPad with her in Croatia. We saw her keeping up with news. She likely read about Sam's death.

OMG! Wiley killed Monica!

Are you allowed internet access when you're being held captive? Would Sam's death make international news?

Does this show even have gay characters anymore? Even B&B has a gay male couple now.

[quote]Are you allowed internet access when you're being held captive? Would Sam's death make international news?

We saw scenes of Britt surfing the internet on her Ipad. She could access Facebook to get photos of the Nurses Ball. She also looked at photos of Rocco. No reason why she wouldn't be able to see news of Sam's death.

Similarly, she was able to travel to Paris, at least once, so she could have purchased newspapers and magazines, etc. There is no reason to believe Britt is ignorant of news of the world and of Port Charles.

How many episodes until Terry resigns (off screen) and Britt is made the new co-CoS at GH?

Slee will be a con artist posing as Monica’s long lost sister. And Martin will be the culprit that puts her up to it. He found that note with her signature and was asking questions about her past

I actually felt bad for willow in today’s episode. Everyone is up in arms about scout being kept away from family. So willow brings her to the manse for 1st day of school tradition and gets beaten up by Michael and Tracey for her trouble.

Ryan Peavey's returns to our screens on Friday.

[quote] There is no reason to believe Britt is ignorant of news of the world and of Port Charles.

Yet she had no idea that Brad moved away? So much for getting friended on Facebook. She also didn't offer any condolences to Jason. The woman did birth one of his demon seeds and was at one time the love of his life.

Meh. Just weird.

I think they're trying not to mention Sam unless it's in connection with Alexis.

The less she's mentioned the sooner the audience forgets

But Sam's fans are certain she is coming back.

Why does Ryan Peavey have to return to our screens?? The return of dead characters is ridiculous.

R170 We don't know for sure if he'll be back playing Nathan. He might be the new Morgan.

Hold Me David, I'm Scared that RP will be playing a new character that's the big bad orchestrating the cold fusion storyline.

RP barely had the acting chops to pull off nicest guy on earth Nathan. No way he can pull off a calculating villian. It would be much worse than even Peter August.

RP seems to be faison from what I’m reading. At least at first…

Trina and Kai are the worst. I'm trying to figure out how to make them more interesting, but Trina has sucked since the Spencer days. Kai is cute, but they are not giving anything him fun to do.

RP playing Faison? It would be more believable if he was playing Monica.

OP- The guy in your photo looks

LIKE A BOTTOM FROM OUTER SPACE

Of course MumbleTard is going to insist he has scenes with Slezak. Wait for it....

R176 Yes, he and his best friend Michael Mealor (who's on YR) both look like they ride a double headed dildo.

I’m surprised no one has mentioned that they finally killed off Monica at the end of today’s episode. Tomorrow looks like it’ll be pretty emotional Been expecting this for the longest time and had to gasp when he told Tracey. I thought Jane Elliot and Steve Burton played the scene really well and the way his eyes were watered over said a lot with out saying a word.

As much hoopla as they made about Rocco being Ben----when is Danny going to find out he was Victor Lord III for awhile?

God, Willow is insufferable. I have no sympathy for her showing up at the Quartermaine Hostel.

This show is great with IDEAS and lousy with execution. Now they've dragged out the Britt story with zero explanation of her "research" but plenty of boredom. Even Nathans return on Friday is going to be lackluster since we all know KS is off canvas and he will probably be hiding for a couple of weeks..

[bold] BEST LINE of the WEEK [/bold] (Michael to Willow) =“You have some nerve, using Monica’s granddaughter as a key to my front door.”

Tracy's eyes got watery before Jason even said anything. Must be difficult for Jane.

Is it true there's a hidden dungeon below The Quartermain mansion where Michael, Chase, Cody and Curtis hold secret sex parties?

[quote] I’m surprised no one has mentioned that they finally killed off Monica at the end of today’s episode.

And on a Wednesday! The disrespect.

How long had Monica been bed-ridden? A year? Well, at least she died in her favorite position - on her back.

R185. Thats a good one, Dr. Webber!

I don't recall Ryan Paevey and Finola being so close.

Supposedly Lulu finds Nathan. Wonder if she and Nathan will get together before her bestie Maxie comes back and it turns messy.

R187 - Mom! If you really loved me you would've shot Annie Logan too!

WHET Genie Francis? Is she still on this show?

NLG worked with Erika Slezak on OLTL in 1980 in a non-contract role for a couple of years. OLTL threatened to sue NLG when she left even though she wasn't on contract, Erika stood up for her. Erika looks good.

R191- I loved reading that. What a lovely welcome/tribute to Erika. From what I can tell, in 1980 OLTL was far more of an ensemble, so good for Erika for telling Joe Stuart off- Its not like she was the star of the show at that point and had immense power like she did 5 years later.. (or maybe she did?) Anyway Joe Stuart was a well known CUNT from what I have read.

I think losing her daughter so unexpectedly was a massive blow to Erika and her family and I am glad to see her taking this role-

R193. I think her husband of nearly 50 years is ill as well.

R189. Oh, Heather! How could you say such hurtful, terrible things!? I never listened to people before, calling you evil...but now I do. I dont know how I could have raised such a monster! Now, hand me the Palmolive. Dr. Webber wants these dishes done!

Steve Burton was excellent today. He actually cried. Jane Elliott was too. And the writing was very good.

I'm glad Monica's getting a good send off, judging from today.

R190 she was in the preview today

Can someone remind me, does Jason have any memories of his life before the accident?

R198 going by today's episode, no.

Thanks, R199.

R199 What about Drew and that brain switching thing? Does Drew have Jason's childhood memories?

Poor Avery. Doesn't get a bratwurst on the grill or to socialize with Donna's favorite nephew Gio.

Are they recasting?

They should bring Dillon back.

Jane Elliot and Scott Clifton were great together, but I guess Scott doesn't want to give up foreign residuals and free trips to Europe every year.

There are too many lead actors on GH already. I wouldn't mind a recast for the character.

I have not watched a soap (minus old ones on YT) since 2012.

I checked out GH on YT-- 2 episodes leading up to the ending about Monica-

Just my take- The HD/Lighting gave the show a very flat look- No shadows, no nuance. The sets were quite decent but the lighting was so flat- it was strange.

The show seemed very "quiet"? Not many characters, alot of conversation about plot but not much plot. It seemed like a soap where many folks have died- You could feel that energy- Just a sad and lonely vibe.

I loved seeing Josh whatshisname who played Cutter on OLTL (he is so handsome, I always felt he might be gay in real life) He was taking to a fucking beagle- the entire episode?

Frank's OLTL looked really good- Great lighting, I was never a fan of OLTL's small sets post JFP, but he made the show look great on a budget until the end... The show never felt at deaths doors, even when it was.

GH depressed me seeing everyone so much older than I remember, and how quiet it was..

Not a fair assessment for 2 episodes and likely nonsense. Shit has changed so much in a decade.

I'd say it's fair r206.

R206, the shows are limited to the number of characters they can have in an episode per day now, for budget reasons.

Got it R208-- You can feel it. I am guessing that all the shows feel like that. Perhaps B&B fares better due to the 30 minutes-

Also, I am not one to recommend fillers but that Steve dude could use some moderate facial filler- It would do a world of good.

I never understood his appeal or popularity as it is (along with that Laura Wright that i see discussed here ad nauseam!)

But he could use some- That lighting is very, very unforgiving- I feel for all the actors.

Between Elizabeth, Jason and Mo I can't keep track of all the kids and their parentage.

ABC casting for new MAGA soap KIRKWOOD for immediate airing. Ingo, Martha Byrne and Michael Swan set to star.

Maybe they can get Scott Reeves and his slutty wife.

R212- Good one. And of course Allison Sweeney will return to acting for this!

Forgot about her r213.

Allison will get top Billing or that

and... Allison Sweeney as:

Kristy Gnome

Perfect

I'll tell you, the writers and actors have done an excellent job the past couple of days on Monica's death. The dramatic weight of 40 years of storylines, regrets, and love was absolutely present. Particularly Steve Burton and Jane Elliott.

They had my tears flowing.

Kind of careless for hospital staff to be sending emails and chatting on the phone in public areas about a death before knowing if the family has been notified.

[quote]I'll tell you, the writers and actors have done an excellent job the past couple of days on Monica's death.

They had six months to plan this all out for maximum dramatic impact while still honoring someone who was on the show almost 50 years. Probably even longer than that since Leslie Charlson had been sick and off the show for so long.

Genie is up next in the spotlight with Lesley's death.

Then Finola, Kimberly, John York and Emma Samms for Robert Scorpio.

I wonder how long they will wait in between tributes. A couple of months? Might be next Spring before everyone is laid to rest.

Ha I totally forgot Monica had sex with Ned Ashton.

I hope Robin comes back for Robert.

R217, it's my personal defect and I own it, but I can't ever say anything positive about Steve Burton. I believe you and anyone else But I will forever be blind to it. My loss I guess.

I'm with you r223. Burton has been collecting a hefty paycheck for years to just put in minimal, repetitive effort.

If he actually had to work for a change, I'm not impressed.

Thanks r224.

Yeah I only tuned in to see the Monica stuff and Burton was really feeling it. Tracy actually wiped away a tear from his face.

I think they all did very well. To quote Young Mr. Grace.

Steve and Jane will be performers of the week on every soap and mainstream blog.

Praying they give Denise (Lesley) her due.

Marland's story of Les going to jail to protect Laura shot the show to No. 1.

Lucille Bluth, she was not!

With Steve Burton, it was pretty clear to me he was using his personal feelings toward Leslie to do his acting. And he was restrained and understated. It worked.

I also know he was a wacko antivaxxer so, you know, eff him.

When he told Tracy that he wished he had memories of when Monica was his Mom, that broke me. Regardless of how you may feel about the story of Jason Quartermaine becoming Jason Morgan, I respect that GH stuck with it and didn't cop out and have him get his memory back.

I’m trying to think. Monica had affairs with Rick Webber, Sean Donnelly, Pierce Dorman, and a fling with Ned. Anyone I’m leaving out? And for the record, Alan cheated with Susan Moore, Lucy Coe, and did he ever do the deed with Karen Wexler’s mother, Rhonda?

[quote]I also know he was a wacko antivaxxer so, you know, eff him.

He was willing to quit the show and give up a lucrative salary for what he believed in.

And he didn't turn around and sue ABC for having that vaccine policy in place.

Both of those are things I admire, even if I disagree with his opposition to getting a vaccine when we were in the middle of a global pandemic and were trying to establish herd immunity.

I'm not sure how they'll do Lesley's death with her being off the show. She was a huge get for GH, got 3rd billing after Steve and Jessie, and a huge salary. I think it would be the perfect time to bring back Nikolas. I think Lesley and Nikolas worked well together.

I think they will kill off lesley Webber, just not with a lot of fanfare. She’s been off the show for so long that there aren’t too many characters that interacted with her, except for Laura and her family. Maybe some flashbacks of Laura talking to LuLu about her grandmother when they add her photo to the hospital wall.

R232- That is true critical thinking and appreciated.

Alan also flung with charity Gatlin. Maybe Tammy the hooker too (?).

No Rhonda wexler and Bobbie were emotional affairs.

Thx r236. Had some gaps in my viewing history

R231 Pre Alan and Pre GH, the tramp also slept with David Langton and Dr. Greg Adamson (Gail's hubby).

Would it kill the writers or Uncle Frankie to do some research? Watch some YT clips? Monica didnt accept Jason until after Susan Moore was murdered. Also, they didnt live in the Q's gatehouse... it was a charming little cottage.

R239 I’m too busy looking at Gio’s legs.

Correct r239. Susan lived in a cottage near the Qs. Like Monica would ever allow her husband’s mistress to live in the property. I do think heather and Scotty moved in with baby Jason . And after Susan was murdered, bobbi moved in with her then husband, DL Brock

Baby Jason living on the Qs property after Susan's murder but Monica not accepting it was a big story at the time.

Ugh. Josh Kelly follows Kirk. So do Tonja Walker and Kelley Menighan.

Anybody quitting GH since it’s ABC/Disney?

R242. Exactly. Tracy's "story" that Monica called Jason "her son" while Jason was living with an alive Susan and Scotty in the Gate house was blantantly not correct.

R231 Did you forget that Monica was once married to Jeff Webber? Everyone else always seems to.

R243. I thought about it...and Tonja Walker is a nutcase whose "podcast" gets tens (10's) of viewers on YT with her far far right propaganda. And she claims she doesn't do politics. She's a bitch.

R242 something in the back of my mind knew something was wrong about that! Thank you! What other wrong memories are we going to get? A head needs to roll.

I'm certain you all remember Monica's sister that she talked about all the time.

R230 yes. I think the writing was strong for those scenes.

Isn't Josh Kelly former military?

Anyway, he can go any time. Waste of space who was never needed.

Yes r245. She was married to Jeff Webber—she didn’t have an affair with him. I was asking about her various lovers, not her husbands.

R248. Quiet, heifer!

Will Billy Miller be the one to guide Monica to the other side?

[bold] HONEST QUESTION [/bold] = Did Ava ever find out about Cody being paid to woo her? I think the Davis girls found out but I missed it if Ava knows?

R253...Monica has a whole passle of children to cross her to the other side...Dawn, Emily, AJ...will we get the long awaited cameo appearance of Kim Valentine as Dawn #2?! Or will it be Jennifer Guthrie as Dawn #4?

If I were GH, I'd have Lesley leave Laura a note saying "you already mourned my death once, have a wake and celebrate my life."

It could be one show with Laura, Tracy and a few others recalling funny stories.

Who was Dawn? Uber eldergays share your knowledge.

R257. Monica's illegitimate daughter with David Langston. She was also engaged to Ned ( left him at the alter when she learned that he slept with Monica...ripped off by Nina/Drew/Willow) and set to marry Lucy's cousin Decker Moss, but was murdered to the joy of GH viewers.

Burton is a MAGA nut

and Datalounge is no place for his obvious straight chick homophobic supporters

Disheartening to find out these GH threads are infested with straight women who never venture beyond to greater Datalounge.

How did Nathan return?

R258 Remember Lucy's cousin Colten? Married Felicia.

Sarah Joy Brown about her time on GH. Dream co-star? Seriously?

[italic]Always grateful for the opportunity. Those were 5 of the best years of my life. #carson forever 🥹 Maurice was my dream co-star. I couldn’t have done it without him. We were a great team.[/italic]

Previews For Next Week

Monday, September 22nd, 2025

Sonny and Carly get sad news.

Anna receives shocking intel.

Cody has Brook Lynn's number.

Molly confides in Alexis.

Britt is shaken.

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Tuesday, September 23rd, 2025

Lulu seeks out Tracy.

Drew issues new orders.

Britt feels guilty.

Martin makes a mysterious phone call.

Anna and Felicia debrief.

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Wednesday, September 24th, 2025

Tracy tempts fate.

Ned and Brook Lynn have a hear-to-heart.

Trina has questions for Jordan.

Portia seeks out Isaiah.

Felicia frets about James.

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Thursday, September 25th, 2025

The Quartermaines and the community of Port Charles say good-bye to Monica.

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Friday, September 26th, 2025

The celebration of Monica's life continues.

A surprise guest shakes things up.

The third Victoria is next Friday’s cliffhanger.

R265. I'll be watching from under my Tercel.

R261. Lulu came across a car accident at the start of the episode. When they wheeled the unconscious driver into GH at the end, Elizabeth, Lucas, Anna, Dante, recognized him as Nathan.

R262. Colton Shore was yummy....and he had his own national talk show "The Colton Connection."

I've noticed some people on social media being nitpicky about specific historical references related to Monica being wrong. Maybe it's sloppy writing, but I'm going to choose to believe that, like in real life, when someone close dies, some historical facts get conflated, certain things are either forgotten or not mentioned, and in many cases, sinners become saints.

r269 can you elaborate on what they said was wrong?

They screwed up the history of Monica accepting Jason, and today apparently there was something about Jake that set someone off on Twitter.

R257 Adding on to R255 R258 Dawn Winthrop Ashton had a half sister on her father's side, Monica "Nikki" Langton, daughter of David Langton and Penelope Adler. Although Monica was Nikki's namesake, she came to town seeking revenge on Monica for her father's death, filing a lawsuit for malpractice,which she did not win. She also dated AJ while setting her sights on the Quartermaine fortune. Alan paid her to leave town; AJ tracked her to Malibu, where she was married with a baby (the baby could always be rewritten as AJ's).

R255 Think you might've forgot someone

R273..No...I don't think so...

R274 😊

R272. I think Slee is playing the baby, now aged in her early 30s.

R267 YOU recognized him as Nathan. You can't be certain they did. (though they probably did).

I hope Nathan doesn't have fucking amnesia. Is there ANY trope this show won't hit to drag out the "mystery" of where the hell Britt and Nathan have been? Britt returned months ago and viewers have ZILCH to show for it.

[bold] UNCONFIRMED Rumor Mill [/bold] says Sean Kanan might make a one shot appearance. Could explain the "surprise guest".

There was a time when a show would invite a dozen past characters to return for the funeral of a legacy character. With todays budget, I have a feeling Monica is getting a Walmart Deli Platter and Sonny Corinthos (whose guts she hated).

R206, it was interesting to read your impressions after a decade of not watching. I agree with you about the flat HD lighting.

I’d argue that the episodes you saw were a little quieter than the norm, with many characters talking in groups of 2 (and and Cody alone with a dog). I’d argue GH is the only soap on left on the air (maybe BTG, I haven’t watched) that can pack 24 key characters into an episode and do big ensemble scenes. The camera moves in interesting ways, and someone is actually paying attention to how shots are framed.

Compared to say, DAYS, which is so impoverished that episodes are capped at 12 characters and most scenes feature static shot/revere shot of 2 people talking on sets the size of broom closets, GH looks like Barry Lyndon or Gosford Park.

I'm curious who Charlotte Cassadine will set her sites on? It's gotta be Gio. Ben Westborne and Victor Lord III can't carry any storyline beyond handing out towels at the pool.

Also Ben Westborne is Charlotte’s brother; R281.

R282 Yeah. Ben is going to flip out when he finds out his half sister (Charlotte) wants his half brother (Gio). It's coming. Wait for it. Either it's Gio or they are going to have to bring on a new guy cause there's no one else on the canvas in that age range.

I can buy Tracy getting the history wrong; she left PC in spring 1980 and didn't come back till 1989.

She did know Susan, though. She called her a 'cocktail waitress' long before she and Alan got together.

When Tracy walked in on Susan and her fiance Mitch in bed together, she WINCED. It was great.

However, the gate house and Susan's cottage are two different places.

R280- R206 here. I totally believe this- and 2 episodes are hardly enough to gauge. I may check out the show some more. I was a Y&R/OLTL fan and GH was one I liked as a kid in the summers from 85-90- Never watched after that. I always dug Maurice as Nico on AMC. That was my grandparents show but I always liked Nico and Cecily- and that was it. But I was 8.

Regarding all of these MAGA soap stars-May I just add that if Josh Kelly follows hardcore repubs I have to say he was seriously gay friendly, Happy Pride stuff on his Instagram years ago, videos of him hanging out with clearly gay men.. I have followed him for years.. But the rest was seriously disappointing. And Tonja is nuts and has always been wacky- And I unsubscribed from her channel a while back when she would sneak in a Trump supporting comment in nearly every episode- very stealthily I may add. "Everyone I know was doing better under Trump" was one of them.

Sad to realize that most of the Quartermaine's are gone now. And it was great seeing Tracy. I recall her returning to GH in 89 maybe? And my mother loved her but despised her hair style. I cannot believe that they gave her THIS hairstyle!! (It was like the one Rosie O'Donnell got years ago!)

Watched yesterday's episode this morning, and it was a good time to pick it up. Steve Burton's a dick, but he's really selling Jason's loss and regret. Asher Antonyzyn is getting better, too - when his voice cracked at the end of the confrontation scene, I almost missed Sam!

Wasn't 25 yr old Aiden supposed to return from his trip with hobo Lucky so he could finish grad school...err...oh...I mean high school?

Steve has really stepped up his game these last few episodes. Yesterday was tough. Great job.

I'm also glad that they haven't brought Sony and Carly into the mix yet, and are allowing the focus to be on Tracy and Jason.

And on a completely shallow note, from some of those closeups, I think Steve is getting some kind of "hair help" even though I respect that he hasn't gone the filler/botox route.

[quote]Wasn't 25 yr old Aiden supposed to return from his trip with hobo Lucky so he could finish grad school...err...oh...I mean high school?

I think traveling with Lucky was just a kind way to write the character off because the actor wasn't working. Mark Teschner has had some misses lately. Personally, I think the Gio actor reads "too young" for his particular role. That scene where he kissed Emma felt like a little boy kissing a grown ass woman.

R281 so observant! I totally forgot he was Victor Lord the third. I so loved when Todd was on GH.

That SOD article states that NLG debuted as Alexis in 1986. Wouldn’t it have been 1996?

Re: Susan’s cottage - am I remembering correctly that the cottage could be seen across the water from the Q mansion?

R290. That would make sense. I remember an episode where Susan and Alan were fighting like cats and dogs and she was throwing stuff at him. While up at the quartermaine’s, Monica and Edward were fighting over a telescope to watch the action.

hummi!

R264 I think the surprise guest is Heather Webber

I will lose it if we see the backs of Alan, Lila, Edward and Monica all reunited like they did with Edward and Lila years ago.

They seem to be conflating the gate house where Grant and Celia lived with the cottage where Susan Moore lived.

AJ will return as a ghost.

R290 You're correct, that should say 1996 when she made her debut; Santa Barbara was her soap home in 1986.

Fun Fact: Not sure if it was ever referenced here, or if anyone really cared, however, Kate Mansi likes to reference her mother Victoria dating Lane Davies. Lane himself apparently likes to mention the story as well; Victoria and Lane relocated to Los Angeles from Providence, Rhode Island together, well before he was with Nancy Lee, before Kate was born.

R294 and r296. I agree. Seeing the deceased characters from behind was very much a tear jerker. You didn’t need to see any faces: you got the point. And they could have Emily and AJ bring her over too. People seem to forget that even though Sean is at B&B they can always use Billy warlock (who I preferred as AJ-he was such a worm. lol)

And also, Billy warlock with his dark hair, is closer in resemblance to the current Michael.

Billy Warlock was hot as a pocket gay but not as AJ. Too short. As much as I love Heather Weber any storyline with her and the funeral will feel forced.

I'm not a fan of backs of characters escorting the back of a character to the afterlife. I thought it was cheesy.

Burton is a rude friend. I recall him telling Bradford on their show that he was leary of staying at Bradford's house when he was commuting from out of state because his house was in a sketchy neighborhood. Not very "Christian" like. I think Brad was driving Uber on the side at the time to make ends meet. Not everyone is fortunate enough to rake in a huge paycheck to just stand around on camera with their arms folded, wearing black and mumbling a few words like Burton. Also, why couldn't Burton stay at a hotel? Didn't want to spend his miracle juice money he pressured out of his fans?

R97 there is some very rare footage on there with Patsy Rahn as Monica along with the first Rick Webber.

I wonder whatever happened to Patsy Rahn

Spinelli drives for Uber and Maxie gets unlimited PTO?

I count it’s *paid* time off r305…

[quote] Wasn't 25 yr old Aiden supposed to return from his trip with hobo Lucky so he could finish grad school...err...oh...I mean high school?

"Aiden" was on a recent episode of Judge Marilyn Milian's new court show. He was the "plaintiff" in a case suing the "defendant", his former best friend. At the end of each episode, there's a disclaimer that states some of the cases are re-enactments of previously litigated cases. He showed more acting ability on her show than he did on GH (for the limited amount of time he was onscreen)...

I think Monica's cousin Lorena Sharp should attend the funeral with her husband Derek Barrington and their son Mikey.

Maybe Dillon and Skye will be there.

And if Slee came on for a few days as Lorena Sharp it would be a storyline much more respectful of Monica's GH history rather than her coming on as brand new character with no ties to Monica's past.

All of those suggestions make entirely too much sense, of course.

R309 yea that would be better.

I Remember Gail Baldwin and Monica had a special bond? She knew Monica from her orphanage days.

Lucy Coe is showing up on Monday.

I'll never forget her introduction in the infamous Laurelton storyline.

R220 they'll do Robert for November sweeps.

More likely may.

Maybe by May, Kimberly's Ozempic shots will have kicked in and the Sasha actress will want to come back to the show.

They need a brunette Sasha to match Robert, Holly and Robin and Emma

R312- OMG. I am not a GH fan but even I remember watching with my grandparents when Lucy was revealed to be a sex kitten after being a fucking librarian? (Is my memory wrong, was Lucy a librarian?)

My grandparents thought it was BRILLIANT and so did I! I remember her putting on lipstick in a mirror and becoming the "real" Lucy Coe!

Brilliant. This had to be the summer of 85.

[quote]I Remember Gail Baldwin and Monica had a special bond? She knew Monica from her orphanage days.

Gail was Monica's foster mother.

R317 yes, Lucy for several months was a mousy, timid librarian. Then, in one of the most shocking scenes in soap opera history, she turned out to be a sex kitten obsessed with a serial killer.

The odd thing about that Laurelton storyline was a big part of it was supposed to be this central, shameful event that happened to Teri Brock. It wound up with her stark raving mad walking naked down the street in Laurelton- singing at the top her her lungs.

It was clear to.me the suggestion at first what that she'd be gang raped by a group of boys led by Patrick O'Connor. But it seems like they decided to keep Patrick as a love interest, and they didn't want another Luke and Laura type situation. So they changed it. Teri wasn't raped, nor did she even have sex.

IT MADE NO DAMN SENSE.

The story of who exactly was killed in Laurelton and the motives was fuzzy. Very odd writing back then.

R318 thank you for clearing that up.

R319- You rule- I spent 3 weeks with my grandparents in the summer of 1985- I was 6!!! I remember a big plane crash in Dallas, The Laurelton storyline (which I did not understand-TO THIS DAY- It seemed very lurid, and very adult- very primetime- and Lucy Coe was EVERYTHING) and my all time favorite fave OLTL with Mitch and Tina. (That may have been 86')

In the late part of the early 80s (like 83, 84) and the mid 80s -- 1985, 1986, 1987 -- GH ran on the success that was established by Douglas Marland who wrote the show from 1977 to 1979, and Pat Falken Smith, who carried his legacy and expanded stories from 1979 to 1981.

After that, the show ran on the popularity of those tales. Laurleton was a mess as were other stories at that time. Gloria was running the show and the writing, it seemed.

R33- I love reading this kind of stuff. I do check out 85-91 ATWT on Youtube- there was no show that I did NOT watch as much as ATWT as I was hardcore OLTL- But that Liz Hubbard would force me to watch during commercials- she was THAT good.

As a kid I really enjoyed the Wes Kenney years of GH-(after checking Wiki) after that, I was done. I was just a kid, but apparently I enjoyed Wes Kenney's production. (I thought that the show looked good then too) I remember Cheryl Stansbury, Katherine Delafield, Robert/Anna and of course Olivia!

I was a OLTL ride or die and GH was the show that was on for everyone when we got home from school, but that 87-90 era for GH was REALLY good. (My mom's only soap by then was GH- she was a hardcore AMC fan in the early 80s before she went back to work)

I also remember Sean and Tiffany's wedding when her name was revealed to be Ethel Crumholtz ?? (Or something like that) My mom roared with laughter. And I knew it was funny too. I have a weird memory and feel that this was around Thanksgiving 88 or 89?

I forgot how much that I enjoyed GH- and I always loved the Quartermaines.

These shows seep into your heart and your memories. It's a very special thing. They get tied into everything since they were on everyday.

Thanks for these memories, they run deep and mean more than people know.

R321 and R322 there were elements of the Laurelton story that were well done. As we said Lucy Coe, and Kevin O'Connor (who'd played Frisco for a few weeks) were very good.

But the story itself was convoluted, and really made no sense. Someone from Laurelton was found dead in Bobbi's brownstone, which somehow related back to Terri's trauma in Laurelton at having witnessed another murder... the writers were really not held to account. And this was a network show!

About 8 months before the Laurelton story kicked off, Terri got a mysterious call from her grandmother. In that episode she was played by Carol Bruce of WKRP. Too bad she was recast- she would've been fun.

I recently went back and watched the whole Laurelton storyline on YouTube. It was tons of fun, but those plot holes I remembered were definitely there.

It was so weird that Frisco suddenly abandoned his music career to become a cop. And he seemed to somehow get assigned to the case while still in training.

R318 so Scotty was Monica's sort of brother?

Terry Brock was one of the most annoying characters ever created for GH. Beyond the nonsensical writing, her wailing whiny “suffering” was a bore to watch. Even when they moved on from the Laurelton mess and came up with the much more compelling DL Brock murder, there was Terry sobbing and whining as she climbed down the stairs of the high rise and then had to climb back up. Ugh.

Lucy Coe was absolutely the only good thing about Laurelton.

No, Scotty wasn’t Monica’s sort of brother. Lee Baldwin and Gail Baldwin got together late in life. Gail wasn’t Scotty’s mother and she didn’t know him until he was a full adult.

Scotty is the longest continuing character on GH. He should be around in some capacity, but he pissed off Frank.

At some point, Scotty stopped being Scotty and just became weirdo Kin. If he comes back, they should give him something serious to do.

"See, Monica leaves the Quartermaine Mansion to Sonny and we all move in....."-----------Mumbles in the Writers Room...

How would Dillon NOT be there for Tracy?

Very sad how Terry Brock actress died.

Kin captioned this "I'm still hanging on to Hollywood".

Is that his way of letting Frankie V. know he's available for memorial tributes, last minute attorney switches and coffee house extra?

Oops, here's Kin's photo:

R202 - Avery is too young to handle Gio's bratwurst

R210 - Wiley and Amelia are the new Kristina and Molly... blood siblings AND cousins.

Donna to Gio: "How's my favorite nephew!".

LOL.

R218 - And was that Head Nurse Liz Webber Spencer Baldwin making a personal call while on duty?! That would never have happened when I was the head nurse! I need a sweater!

R231 - Didn't Monica also have a fling with some French con artist around the time she kicked all the Q's out of the mansion? And to be clear, her short affair with Ned happened before she knew he was her nephew while at a spa out of town. It would be funny however for Drew to have thrown that bit of tawdry history in the Q's face when they banished him.

While not consummated, Alan had an almost-affair with Bobbie up to and including making out with her in a rented hotel room. And Amy also unsuccessfully tried to seduce him when she first arrived in town. Alan also had affairs with no-name characters off screen: I recall at least once Monica going ballistic because he had been caught in the supply room screwing around with some bimbo blonde nurse.

[quote] Who was Dawn? Uber eldergays share your knowledge.

She was yet another of Monica's now-dead children. Bizarre that Ned failed to even mention her when he rattled off A.J. and Emily, considering he was once engaged to Dawn. Oops. Well it was long ago and several marriages past for him. I'm guessing Dawn ISN'T interred in the family mausoleum?

R318 - Yes, Scotty and Monica were step-sibling although that would have been well after they were adults.

Between Scotty and Monica, they must've buried a dozen dead offspring. Someone really needed to call the local DCF office.

R334 - Kin hasn't worked in quite awhile. Can he afford shrimp cocktail in an L.A. eatery?

It’s better to have many dead exes than dead children

Yes. Personally, I've lost count.

I thought it was rather bizarre for Jason to refer to Monica's corpse as "It's upstairs" when the paramedics arrived. Has decades of murdering people dehumanized him to that point?

R300 - WEBBER!!!!

Now that Elizabeth is the last standing Baldwin, it makes me wonder are there any Webbers left on the show currently?

I can only think of Liz's sons who are all off camera indefinitely, as are Steven Lars and Heather.

I was watching an old clip where there is serious concern at the hospital about Amy's gossiping. No warnings and no one can stop here. They call in Lee Baldwin to put the squeeze on her and she gives this hilarious response about how it's her first amendment right etc. No wonder she remained single.

Don't you think Monica would have gotten an ancestry.com DNA test at some point? She could have thousands of relatives show up at her funeral.

R348, I think I remember watching that when it aired. Lots of concern then over Amy's big mouth.

R349 I'm surprised more soaps haven't used that as a plotline over the years since it became a more accessible thing. They're still all doing the switching-the-test-results-in-the-hospital stories from 30-40 years ago.

Nice photo of Rory.

The Bible of the industry

Elliot and Burton performers of the week

I'm all for giving Frank credit for having Leslie Monica make phone calls and wheelchair appearances until she was no longer able to do so; I'm sure that made her feel valued and seen or I guess heard.

That said, if he doesn't do a tribute episode to Dr. Lesley Webber and Denise Alexander I will cancel my Hulu!!

Are Frank and Genie on good terms or not?

Frank is not a fan, but knows she is somewhat untouchable.

But who would want to touch Genie anyway?

[quote] However, the gate house and Susan's cottage are two different places.

Sad to think that at this point it's likely the viewers who know the most about the show's history than anyone on it or running it.

Port Charles must have amazingly slack code enforcement for renovations. The Quartermaine mansion has moved stairwells, front doors, fireplaces and even the location of the kitchen over the years. So, it's not terribly surprising that the cottage has transformed into the gatehouse now. At least the Quartermaine manse still kinda sorta resembles an actual mansion as opposed to the rinky-dink McMansions that Carly and Sonny each live in.

Josslyn missed weeks of classes when she was undergoing training at the WSB, and now has missed a month or longer while on her mission in Croatia. How is she still enrolled? Jax must have made a hefty grant to PCU.

Starting around 3:40 Monica argues with Jimmie Lee about which one of them should be living in (another?) Q mansion gatehouse.

R326 DL's murder was first. Then Laurelton. In was in the wake of the DL death storyline that Bobbi first reached out to Terry's grandmother on the phone. And they were warned in no uncertain terms that Terry was persona non grata in Laurelton.

Remember David Doyle?

It was funny how on the old show people would move into established locations.

Like the luxury apartment where Edward played dead with Tracy was later where Bobbi shot DL Brock

Several characters lived in the cottage. As well as the Gate house. But that made sense since it was on Quartermaine grounds.

I remember way back when that Alan Q came off like a bit of a prissy queen in his scenes sometimes. Just like Alan Spaulding at GL.

He and Monica loved to fight.

Oh God, that makes it worse, R362. How in the world did Glory Monty watch the DL Brock murder story and think it was better to get rid of Judith Chapman and move Terry into a lead role for a giant umbrella story? I hated that story. Terry and the boring O’Connor brothers centering on some gothic southern town that had nothing to do with Port Charles. Horrible.

For all her wonderful direction, Gloria was far from having faults.

Maybe she couldn't keep Genie who needed a break and owed it to herself to try nighttime and films.

But Gloria got rid of the characters of Lesley Webber, Diana Taylor, Susan Moore, and Annie Logan -- all fan favorites; Susan had years of story in her as Jason's mother. Gail and Steve were photographed at an anniversary party; probably the 30th.

Even worse, Gloria lost Doug Marland. He went to ATWT briefly and then to GL. In 1982, GL won best show and best writing at the DT Emmys; I believe the eligibility period was March 1981 to March 1982 back in those days.

The show rode on the popularity of characters into the mid 1980s. I checked out Laurelton every now and then, and all I saw was poor Terry screaming and screaming.

And screaming.

I'd found the light long by the time. The Guiding Light.

That made me howl with laughter, r366. Thank you.

Doug Marland was truly brilliant. It’s fascinating to think what he would have done with GH if the Luke and Laura phenomenon forced his hand. There were so many incredible stories during that era.

Heather Webber spiking Diana’s tea with LSD but Heather ingesting it instead.

Who killed Diana Taylor?

Monica and Rick’s affair with Alan plotting several times to kill the two of them.

Bobbie’s introduction and her “seduction” of Scotty.

Tracy withholding Edward’s heart medication during his “heart attack”.

Lassa fever and the hospital quarantine.

And those were just a few of the classics. I’m not sure all of them were his but enough were.

Gee, I don't know, I liked both the D.L. Brock murder story as well as Laurelton. I loved Ginny Webber, probably one of if not the best character on the show IMO. It was later stories like the Mt. Rushmore terrorist fiasco and the craptacular Katherine Delafield being stalked by her psycho fiancée dressed, no kidding, like an Egyptian pharaoh. Late 80s to early 90s was my first real time out from GH.

I also absolutely hated the Casey Space Alien story, but I think that was still mid-80s. Not a big fan of the super silly Ice Princess plot but it was at least better and more sensible that that mess about some magical sword that followed. The writers must have been on some hardcore drugs back then.

With Monica's death/memorial.....you're all mentioning Lesley and Robert Scorpio, but you know who's been completely forgotten? Audrey!

Where the hell is she? a hospice? a nursing home?? Obviously, Rachel Ames has to do before the character will even be mentioned again.

Has to DIE, fucking spellcheck.

R369. I think Audrey is babysitting 35 year old Aidan.

R363 And the Gate House was the headquarters to L&B Records. That was the sake as the Grant and Celia and Jimmy Lee Gate House. Same layout.

I think the most famous use of the Gate House was Grant and Celia. The Prometheus Disk storyline was The Americans before The Americans!!

Rachel Ames is 95. Her last appearance on GH was in 2015. I highly doubt she’ll make another on-screen appearance.

I wanted to be the filling in a Putnam / Andrews sandwich...

They showed Elizabeth calling Audrey a few months ago to give her an update on something that was going on then, but they didn't give any details on where Audrey was.

l'shana tova

R372, that was my first recollection of the Gate House. But L&B was a pretty memorable use as well. I’d say it’s a tie.

Before Grant and Celia moved in, there was a meeting at the Gate House with Jimmy Lee, Crane Toliver and Susan Moore to plot and scheme over Crane's evidence that he and Lila had never divorced.

[quote] I wanted to be the filling in a Putnam / Andrews sandwich...

I wanted to be the filling in a Jimmy Lee Holt/Grant sandwich. Either Grant would do!

The Laurelton story with Terry Brock singing in the streets gave GH HUGE ratings that week.

Has GH ever done a musical episode? I would quite enjoy that.

R367, about half of those were Doug.

The other half were Pat Falken Smith who finished out his stories. I have to believe it was Doug's plan for Alan to be Alan Jr."s father all along.

Gloria had the ratings for YEARS after Doug and Pat left; in fact, Pat came back to the show in 1985. I think PFS co-created Anna Devane, in fact.

But there was no enticing long term to keep people around by telling great stories.

Had PFS not left GH in 1981, she never would have gone back to DAYS and created Roman, the Brady family, Bo and Hope, etc.

I'm not sure how Doug even got hired for GH after he butchered The Doctors.

[quote] Has GH ever done a musical episode? I would quite enjoy that.

The thought Burton and Benard trying to sing...

R380. I read Robyn Bernard was redoing those singing in the streets scenes when she died in that field in Hemet.

Slezak at the Q crypt.

SLEE!

Christine Jones played both Tracy and Viki.

Her best role was Janice Frame

R388. Get that white bitch out of my face!

Slezak, Tuc Watkins, RoHo.

God I miss OLTL.

Tuc must have thrown a party for Erika. That's nice of him.

Tuc still looks good. What does he see in Andrew Rannells?

r395 = John Paul Lavioisier

Awww the scenes between Tracy and Lucy today were so lovely. Nice to see

R392- Thank you for posting- This makes me SO happy. I think that Erika needs this in her life right now and its utterly heartwarming.

I never liked the blending of GH with OLTL castmembers and as a OLTL fan and not a GH fan, I feel bad even commenting here! (I know that its a GH thread)

I am sure GH fans hated all of the OLTL folks brought over. (And honestly Michael Easton and Kristen Alderson in particular were NOT favorites of mine by any stretch of the imagination) Roger Howarth was a given considering is popularity, I suppose..

R396 = Farah Fath

If r396 is Farah Fath, can she tell us what JPL is packing? I've been curious about that for a while. I'm thinking girthy.

You're welcome r398!

I'm convinced JPL and Tuc were a couple.....JPL's resemblance to Ms. Rannells is quite striking.

[quote] Tuc still looks good. What does he see in Andrew Rannells?

A cavernous bottom?

Chris McKenna's real mom, his TV mom, his wife and kid.

Victoria and Joey Buchanan 2025.

I sure hope Erika Slezak looks better on camera at GH than she does in that photo at r404.

I saw the photos of Erika with Tuc and Chris (I follow both on Instagram) today and they made me so happy for her and her former co-stars.

Where is the photo of Laura Wright and Erika? You know there has to be one.

I hope Slee got that twitchy eye thing under control.

[bold] History Rewrite [/bold] MONICA "praised" Carly and Sonny off screen?!?. Sonny fucked her daughter. He turned her son into a mobster hitman. He put her OTHER son on a meat hook and stole his biological child. And Carly? She fucked both Monicas sons and drugged AJ to make it look like he had fallen off the wagon. Why does the show have to pretend that Monica would have given a fuck about these two people who fucked with her family for decades?

I hope they don't place them at the funeral.

R410. It's disgusting. Sonny and Carly brought more drama and issues to Monica's life over the past 30 years than anyone else. Why does EVERYONE have to love those people?!

Ham Hansis plays Lucas like such a catty bitch. Tone it down, Claire!

"I leave the entire Quartermaine Mansion to Sonny and Carly for all the wonderful memories they have given me over the years"-----------Mumbles in the writers room pitching how Monica admired Sonny so much that this is a no brainer.

I'm not sure Sonny didn't kill Austin Quartermaine Holt either. I'm really not.

Carly and AJ were among Ron's best decisions. It was working, but someone must have complained, so he ended it. Also, I don't think what Michael said about Monica's thoughts on Carly and Sonny was a history rewrite. He established that they would never be Monica's favorite people, but she accepted that they loved him, which they did.

[quote]Carly and AJ were among Ron's best decisions. It was working, but someone must have complained, so he ended it

I agree. Laura Wright and Sean Kanen had good chemistry. In fact, it was the most natural chemistry I've ever seen her have with a co-star.

Who would that chemistry have been threatening to? Humm. Wonder who that might be?

Who has consistently been threatened by anyone being more popularity that he has and often gets those co-stars fired? Who is always threatened when one of his romantic co-stars has better chemistry with another romantic partner than with him?

Hummmm. I just can't imagine who that would be.

I hope Sonny and Carly show up at the funeral and somebody tells them off. They really have no right being there. That scene today made me sick. Now that Michael is hot Carly looks like a cougar hugging him. When I saw the promo with Slee I screamed like a fangurl.

R410, you aren’t even mentioning that Sonny murdered aj.

"Michael, you were almost burned alive!!. But you know who I really admire? Sonny and Carly!!."--------------Mumbles writing todays episode.

"Sadly, the Quartermaine Mansion, and it's disrepair, is once again underwhelming. I know it's just a show, but a hole in the door below the peephole? You wouldn't see this at Llanfair."

[quote] Hummmm. I just can't imagine who that would be.

Could it be... SATAN!

Random thoughts between commercials on Tuesday:

Leo wasn't included in Monica's visits with the next Q generation.

The PCPD hasn't checked Nathan's underwear for his nametag yet.

Alan gave Monica a whole house but Lucy only got a world cruise.

Britt was very disappointed she didn't get a box of chocolates.

Would Faison sign that note as "C" when its addressing his daughter? I'd think he'd write "Papa" or something more European.

I took a decade off. When I came back, Jason had become "Stone Cold" and was working with Sonny. I agree with those watching now that Sonny and Jason are mostly insufferable.

But I fell into a rabbit hole last night when this came on my YouTube feed. I had missed this origin story completely. OMG, Burton was really terrific! Even better was the writing! It was an amazing storyline. The parts that got me were the scenes where Alan, Monica, and Keisha had to finally realize ... the Jason they knew was dead. Gone forever. Replaced by this monster. It was chilling, yet Burton was able to still make Jason sympathetic.

The scenes of Alan, Monica and Keisha are included in this extended clip. And - FUCK - Burton WAS hot. They would never do a towel scene like this today!

Hope you guys enjoy this as much as I did.

Am I missing where the towel scene is?

I don't mean to derail the thread, but this is some of the best soap opera I've ever seen.

It was next video

Oh yes, he sure was pretty.

He was too full of himself. My apologies to his straight chick admireres who post here.

I got to visit the set of GH in 1992, and Steve and whoever was playing AJ were playing videogames. They were both HOT a FUCK.

That would have been Sean Kanan, R431.

Jessica Tuck (ex-Meghan OLTL, Cassandra, GH) reunited with OLTL brother Chris McKenna. He says she's "directing" for the first time. But the package to Britt was signed from "C", could that stand for Cassandra, is she the big boss?

On the other hand, the "Five Poppies" could stand for Cesar, Liesel, Nathan, Britt and Peter which would mean a Mr. Laura Wright return and my quitting GH.

Monica was such a bitch about Jason!

This episode is very good. And I have to compliment the current writers. You can draw a line between the events of 42 years ago and the past few episodes. As far as Monica and Jason go anyway.

Valentine is currently being held at the same prison Jerry Jax escaped from several years ago.

Story on Tuck

Who was Ned talking to on the phone? Dillon? (I hope I hope)

I forget, who was Peter's mother? Was it Anna?

^His mother was Anna's twin Alex.

Oh I remember now, thanks. That story was... messy.

R429 He STILL does it for me, but goddamn, he was BEAUTIFUL. Also? I forgot how much of a dick he was to everyone after losing his memory.

Back then, GH was on FIRE for quite a while, actually. I remember this straight dude I used to work with bitching about how his new gf he just moved in with, used to "make" him watch GH. They had one TV.

Two weeks later, he was all...."That shit is good. It could be on at night, it's that good."

It never occurred to Ned, Lulu, Michael and Brooklyn for one of them to simply call Tracy and ask her where she is and if she’s ok? They stood around for an hour freaking out and no one said “maybe we should try calling her”?

Omg Tracy was NUTS for hitting on a hard 17. Especially when the dealer was showing a 3!!!

Jon Lindstrom over on BTG enjoying himself hitting the sheets with a skinny little blonde. No matronly looking mayor wife.

And no real life insane Cady McClain!

Jon and Cady are both now on Beyond the Gates.

Jon is doing a great job. Can't say the same of Cady,

I wonder if Jon and Cady aren't on good terms post divorce. Otherwise, I can't imagine why Jon, a good and seasoned actor, wouldn't tell Cady that the absurd accent she's using by choice on BTG makes her appear demented despite the character not being demented.

Cady is wrong for that role. She should be playing the nurse's mom.

Lois told Tracy right before never to hit on 17. Tracy hitting on 17 was to show that she really did want to attend Monica's funeral, but didn't have to admit it when she lost.

Cady's trying to channel Lucinda Walsh but it ain't quite working.

Who is Lucinda Walsh? Cady couldn't find another way to stand out besides that bonkers manner of speaking?

Tracy isn't leaving the show, is she??

[quote]Who is Lucinda Walsh?

Oh, darling...

R453 Pussycat!

Thank God they let Rena Sofer dye and wear her hair appropriately. She also wasnt dressed like Zorro's sister, so that's a plus!

Alexa and Bluesy.

Nice to know they can both actually smile.

I just watched today's episode. When Nathan/(Jay to Nina) wakes up. "The last thing I remember..."

Man, if I was writing the dialog:

Nina: You're here. You're really here! (She hugs him. He looks at her puzzlingly)

Nathan: What happened?

Nina: Just wait. You're here and you're okay (she runs out to get Anna. They come back).

Anna: What's the last thing you rememeber?

Nathan: The last thing I remember. I was shot by Cesar Faison. (He looks at Nina). And you? Who are you?

Nina: (reassuring) Nina! I'm you're sister, Nina!

Nathan: But you look.....different!

Nina: It's 2025. I'm seven years older!!

Nathan: (nodding his head) No. That's not it. It's something else.

Nina: (Shakes her head a little, rolls her eyes, then says...) Well, I'm played by another actress now!

^Nina: Don't worry, I won't try to "audit" you or sell you any courses.

I can't decide who has the deeper voice, Michael or "Nathan".

Also, I know that Jane has stopped submitting herself, but her performances during the story have been amazing. Maybe Frank will talk her into it. She deserves some recognition.

R434 thanks for posting - in the clip they call it the gatehouse so HW JL and Jason did live in the GH for a period of time - lots of us were wrong saying that the writers made a mistake earlier this week that it was the cottage

There's something just annoying about Bluesy as Charlotte. I don't think she's a good actor (even considering she's a "child" actor), and she just comes off as unpleasant and charmless. I wonder what the casting director saw in her? Maybe she'll improve. I haven't disliked a child/young actor this much since the moppet who played Violet.

The girl playing Georgie (once every 6 months) by contrast is a lot more engaging.

The little boys who play James and Wiley are also surprisingly good and natural for being so young.

If they buried his body seven years ago, then I can only assume "Nathan" is a clone.

Meh. I guess that's better than some ridiculously convoluted back-from-the-dead retread.

I agree about NuCharlotte. My initial thought was she was good but I've since changed my mind. You nailed it with "charmless", r461, much like NuLulu.

I disagree about NuCharlotte. I think she is supposed to be playing aloof, cranky teen, part Cassadine now stuck in the suburbs with this woman who is yelling all the time.

^Why did they have to make both mother AND daughter unpleasant?

Yes, it was difficult to tell this wasn't the child actress now grown up as nuCharlotte. Charlotte has been traveling the world and is now stuck having most of her meals in a roach-infested harbor diner.

They need to hire Ron part-time to write satisfying conclusions to all of the ambitious, but ultimately disappointingly resolved, story ideas they float. I'd still like some better closure on Harmony , Esme, The Hook, Cyrus, Dev, Jagger, AGH, Jake, Spencer....

R467 Ron? Hahaha Hahaha Hahaha Hahaha

Yep, R468 , I said Ron.

I wish they showed some clips of Alan. : (

When Liz was talking to Jason she mentioned Michael wouldn't have Carly and Sonny there today for support. Jason said yeah Monica blamed them for his leaving the family when in fact it was his own choice. No mention of what Sonny did to AJ. The whitewashing of sputtering Sonny never ends.

I’d like to know where was Danny? Jason’s son/monica’s grandson and he’s currently on the canvas. Or even Leo for that matter. I can see them saying that Jake missed his flight or Dillion was filming a movie or something. Atleast tomorrow should be good:: I’m sure Tracey will now have something to say. And anyone else pick up on Laura mentioning that her mother came down with something???

I loved that Lucy felt the urge to speak, and the looks on everyone’s faces when she did so.

R472 you could tell Genie Francis got emotional when talking about Lesley (Laura's mom.)

I get the feeling her death will only be mentioned- no big tributes or anything.

They can pretend certain characters were there if they don't have the actors. Just acknowledge that the characters came to funeral but were conveniently in another room or took off immediately after the service.

Did Jason's speech break anyone else?

Yes. Jason did quite a nice job with it. It seemed very real. And of course it has the added weight of us having watched them for 40 years.

They mentioned me, "Dawn"! Do I get residuals?!

COUNTDOWN TO SLEE!

[bold] What a pathetic sendoff. The age of the large cast funerals are truly over. [/bold] TWO rows? SIX pews? Three people in each one? Not a single appearance by the countless doctors who worked with Monica (Patrick, Griffin, Steven Lars, Noah,etc)...Not even fat Amy?..Britt wasn't there? Seriously?

Erika's wraps three weeks of filming and this is her very nice and lengthy goodbye statement.

She thanks the hair & makeup people individually by name.

She said seeing Jessica Tuck was "delightful". What was their relationship like on OLTL? Talks about seeing "my Joey" and also seeing Tuc and Roger while she was in CA.

Sings Jane's praises.

Thanks Frank for his patience. It was hard work and she is glad to be going home.

I keep forgetting MEK and Cameron Mathison worked together on AMC. Same goes for Alexa and Cameron.

I suppose Cameron should be commended for making us forget Ryan Lavery with his new vile Drew.

They couldn't even shell out a few more bucks to get day player Yuri back and they've made him seem like Monica's dedicated butler for the past few years.

[bold] SCREENSHOT!! SIXTEEN PEOPLE at Monicas Funeral!! [/bold] I'm actually embarrassed for the show. They didn't even use the characters they had access to. No Lucas? How would Britt not be there for Jason after he rescued her? How would Emma not be there with Gio when the last funeral he attended was his (adopted) mothers not so long ago. And speaking of Gio----the writers could write a scene where Michael tells Sonny and Carly how much Monica "admired" them, but they couldn't write a scene where (off screen) BLQ told Monica about Gio and got some family advice, since Monica also had adoption in her family? Jake couldn't show up for his grandmothers funeral?

I haven't watched for literally 25 years, but I tuned in this week. One thing I noticed is there are just less people. Like back in the day, the hospital scenes made it seem like a real hospital- people coming and going- doctors, nurses rushing about. No more. Mostly only the principal characters are seen in a given scene. PC in general seems much less populated.

And, again for them to not feature any old clips with Alan, Edward or Lila was a glaring omission. Is that another budget thing?

If it takes one of his coworkers dying to elicit a decent performance out of Steve Burton, then I feel like we’re damning with faint praise.

GH probably has a little more money than the other shows, but soap budgets are not what soap budgets used to be. You can't have 40 contract players and 20 guest stars and flashbacks and expect to have a full season of shows. Extras cost money. Flashbacks cost money. Guest stars cost money. Everyone of those in attendance at the funeral made their usual rate. The 16 people at the funeral was probably pushing it budget-wise. If you want old school soap funerals, weddings, and parties, you are going to have get out your old tapes from 1995.

The one I was most surprised not to see was Danny. I'd've given up Lucy to have Danny be at his father's side.

Why was Dante at the funeral?

[quote]Why was Dante at the funeral?

Well, he lives in the Quatermaine house that Monica owns. So, technically, Monica was his landlord.

His mother and his little brother also live in the Quatermaine house.

His ex-wife lived in the Quatermaine house as a teenager.

TV Insider Story on Erika Slezaks GH stint......LINK

Of course she does episodes with SONNY......ugh..

Slezak and Mumbles. I wouldn't be surprised if NotVicki inherits the Q House and Sonny buys it from her. Not kidding.

Why was Carly in the opening when she wasn’t in the episode? I thought I saw her in yesterday’s opening as well but wasn’t certain.

r493, we see 24 slides to open every episodes. I don't think we ever have 24 characters per episode.

Slee has that neurological thing that she won’t talk about still going on.

The recurring actors only show up in the opening slides on days when they are on.

But any of the contract actors can be in the slides any day, regardless of whether they are in that episode.

I wish GH put more effort into only having the people in that episode in those openings slides, but they don't. For the first few months after that slides opening debuted a few years back, they were putting that effort into only having the actors of that day's episode in the opening slide, but eventually stopped.

I have noticed that in recent months Y&R only features the people on that day in its opening.

I wish GH would go back to the Ambulance and the hospital. Their current opening is an embarrassment to soap opera openings.

I really liked the flashbacks used today, but was disappointed that AJ was never included. My only gripe.

[quote]was disappointed that AJ was never included. My only gripe.

Likely because they'd have to pay Sean Kanan or Billy Warlock for use of the clips.

SLEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

Every time a flashback is shown, the actors get residuals. Basically, any time their likeness is on camera, they're getting a check, not a big one, but a check nonetheless.

They should bring back Georgia to recurring status. Her character has always been underutilized and has a lot of potential.

I still laugh when I see a scene of Elizabeth with Monica, and wonder if Elizabeth knows that Monica was once married to her dad. Has that ever been mentioned in the past 30 years?

Oh was I a mess today watching that. Glad they at least ran clips with Alan and showed pictures of Lila, Edward, and Steve Hardy.

I was remembering back to 1981- that generic opening with the ambulance. The theme song was literally from a generic library called Tunes r Us or something.

What was cool about that opening was it was created when GH was still kind of standard issue soap stuff. It was a modernization from the old tyme organ music. But by 1981 the juxtaposition between that opening and the newly youth oriented action and adventure was stark. It really belied what usually followed.

As I mentioned earlier, the show just seemed bigger back then. More people, locations, sets, wardrobe. There was something so optimistic about the whole thing.

Sadly, that's gone and the show can never be what it was. And I can apply that to American life too.

That said, I'm grateful we got to mourn Monica today.

Serious question: Jane Elliot is 78 years old! 78 YEARS OLD!!

Think of Anna Lee at 78 years old, (she was elegant, but she looked 88!)

Has anybody done a better job of aging??

The funeral attendees minus Drew

R503. Yeah. Back in 1998, I believe, for some reason Liz was at the Q's....maybe hanging with Amber Tamblyn's Emily (the only Emily)...and Monica awkwardly asked her how Jeff was and told her about the marriage. I think Liz knew already....

Of similar note, I wish Laura would have tied in that Monica was once her adopted aunt!

R505 she's utterly fabulous at 78.

Erika Slezak was listed as playing Veronica Bard in the end credits.

That name would suggest she is Monica's sister or cousin.

R509 = Good catch.

Veronica Bard....Victoria Lord?

Reading Erika's interview made me sad. She is clearly an older/elderly woman now and is ready to retire. It was very sweet but very sad.

They have a very small family. She has been through a lot and her husband is pushing 90. Losing your daughter at that age suddenly will fuck with anyone- especially for devoted parents like she and Brian were.

I likely won't watch but I hope that it's good for the GH and the story, and not garbage.

I am so glad that Jane Elliot treated her so kindly.

Didn’t we hear that ES’ character goes by the nickname “Ronnie”?

I think Frankie's going to fuck with us and leave us wondering whether or not this is a new personality emerging from Viki.

R501 WOW. I didn't know that.

If anyone here knows, what is the story of Erika Slezak's daughter's death? Thanks.

R516- One thing I would never do is check the Vermont Public records to look up someone's death certificate. (Surprised its not come out)

A year prior to Amanda's death she did have a DUI and was arrested- You can google that.

My vibe is that she hid a lot from her parents- I think they lived a very waspish/idyllic life where real shit was not discussed. Erika and Brian gave their kids everything and also bought her that condo in VT. She was a waitress prior.

I would guess that it was alcohol related and I pray not intentional.

I don't think that we will ever know

R517 Was it suicide?

R518- I suspect overdose of some kind or that. I don't think it was anything else. She seemed very lonely on her Facebook- I had followed her years ago on that. All the money and great parents in the world doesn't make a difference ultimately-

I truly have no idea- but I am pretty sure it was one of the two-

I think that Erika was probably floored- I think that is why I feel so bad for ES- I don't think that they really KNEW their daughter- which adds such a gut punch when someone dies suddenly.

In the COVID interview with Muscle Queen Michael Fairman, Sleestack discussed both of her adult children being back home and basically making sure she and Brian never left the house. Amanda worked for a dress shop then in NY that of course was closed. The son sounds very socially awkward though...almost autistic.

R520- Agree about the son- I think that he still lives with them- They bought Amanda an apt in NYC (10 years ago?) when she was a waitress- I had no idea about the dress shop during Covid. They bought her the condo in VT soon after- (Erika even said so in her newsletter I believe) Erika had a beautiful home in VT for years- a 2nd home - but they moved back to their main home in New Canaan. I think that they sold the VT home barely 2 years ago, I think it was in Mt Holly.

The kids were basically trust fund baby types, but VERY close with their parents- I don't think either had much success with relationships.

Just a very close nuclear family. Very privileged and very cut off from real life. I think that Erika was a wonderful mother.

R521. No disagreement here. I think Slee and her husband were later in life parents and loved their kids the way they thought best. I do think the daughter's death was drug or alcohol related, which is why there is such a cloak of secrecy.

Just watched the funeral episode. Am I the only one who thinks it "interesting" that the Emily they showed was Amber Tamblyn and not Emmy Winner Natalia Livingston? Is Uncle Frank being catty?

R522- 100%. I think ultimately the kids were so protected and sheltered- that's a good thing and a bad thing. I find it ironic how many tragedies that Viki would endure (including losing her own daughter on the show) and I cannot fathom what Erika went through. When that Fairman dude brought it up - very respectfully- I think it was in the Cancer Benefit /Andrea Evans interview- she immediately teared up, and softly said I cannot talk about this, and then says "It is the worst thing that has ever happened to me".. You can tell that it destroyed her. It's just horrible.

I think it was the interview with Alan Locher that he briefly mentioned it towards the end of the interview. He didn’t dwell on it, but offered his sympathy. Erika became emotional and as you said, stated that she couldn’t talk about it, likely because of how recent it was. She’s always seemed like such a class act.

Of those flashbacks they showed at the end of Monica's funeral episode, Amber Tamblyn was the only person still living who is not on the show. So, they would have had to pay residuals to her.

My understanding is they don't have to pay residuals to people who are on the show at the time the flashback airs, so no extra pay for Jane Elliot or Steve Burton.

Show has been using photos of Anna Lee, John Ingle and Stuart Damon for years, so they clearly have a long term deal with their families. I'm sure airing a couple of video clips would not make any difference.

Erika Slezak was born in 1946,

That means when her son Michael was born in 1980, Erika was 33 or 34. On screen, show incorporated the pregnancy for Viki's pregnancy with Joey.

When Amanda was born in 1981, Erika was 35. Christine Jones subbed as Viki during this pregnancy.

There may be an exemption for publicity shots taken of the actors since the network owns those photos. However, the latest SAG contract is pretty clear about residuals. Apparently, Days went over budget with returns and flashbacks for John Black's funeral.

Whereas Y&r had chance’s funeral in Los Angeles no, Nina no flashbacks no Philip the third. No Ronain… nothing just more of Cain saying all will be revealed no matter how many times Lily tells him to his face. We are never ever ever getting back together. he just takes a beat and says “never is a long time Lily”

Josh is not on like Maria in that the vision in the writers head does not translate onto the screen.

R507 when was Monica, Laura‘s adopted aunt? I recall a story that Monica bought or helped Laura get a prescription for her access to birth control pills, which I’m sure did not sit well with Leslie they said Laura was a candy striper so many times over the years that I’m starting to think she might’ve been a 1977 before I watched regularly in 1978 but at that point, she was moved over to the blue jacket as a volunteer in the hospital book room

Monica was married to Jeff Webber.

Jeff's brother Rick adopted Laura when he married Lesley.

Monica and Jeff may have divorced by the time Rick married Lesley in October 1977.

[quote] Of similar note, I wish Laura would have tied in that Monica was once her adopted aunt!

Yes, I was waiting for this. It was alluded to obliquely when Laura spoke to Lulu about her troubled youth but Laura's relationship with Monica was more meaningful than that and possibly one of the ignitors to the feud between Monica and Lesley (aside from Rick).

While the paltry turn out for weddings and funerals is a disheartening, I appreciate that they at least gave an explanation -- it was a private service by invitation. No kids. That said, I agree why would they have invited Lucy, Felicia, Dante, and Stella?

They did mention Lesley being too ill (precursor for what's coming) but no reference to Audrey who is presumably still among the living. They also didn't mention Lorena Sharpe, her only known (or suspected) blood relative as a Bard, but maybe that's coming with the Veronica story.

I guess GH didn't want to spend time explaining too much of its own history for such a fleeting episode, but surely they must know that the vast majority of remaining viewers are the loyalists from its heyday.

Most likely the Lucy, Felicia, Dante, and Stella actors were already scheduled to shoot other scenes when the shot the memorial scenes and the characters all had somewhat plausible reasons for being at Monica's service. So they also worked them into the memorial as they could help fill up seats at the church service.

I've read that Lynn Herring wears her own clothes so she doesn't cost them anything wardrobe wise.

Did Sean Kanan appear in any of these episodes? I thought the rumor was he was appearing as a ghost

Maybe this is just Days, but I heard that non-contract people and extras get a small fee for wearing their own clothes, which is cheaper than have clothes on hand for extras and non-contract people.

Also, I thought Liz was talking about Audrey in the past tense when she mentioned her. Could Audrey already be dead?

Finally, Monica would have wanted Drew at the service. This version of Drew is the most Quartermaine of all the Quartermaines. However, I understand that he needed to be kicked out to make him angrier for future story.

R537. If Audrey was dead, her face would be on that pathetic "Wall of 1,000 Deaths," which is missing someone....

My only issue with that wall is that Steve and Jessie should be the two biggest pictures. Lila and Edward didn't show up until the late 70s (maybe 1980), and they weren't even doctors.

They were donors, which, at any hospital, are more important than the staff.

^ No, but they were benefactors and money talks.

Diana, that wall is missing a lot of dead staff. Several more important than some silly ill-fated nurse

Scotty's mom, Nurse Meg Bentley, should be up there.

And ME! What, do you fuckwads all think I'm a 110 years old now?

I'm watching sporadic episodes from the mid-late 60s on youtube, and there's someone named Dr. Peter Lindsay. I can't find out anything about him on GH sites but did find a reference to his suicidal wife Carol who was in a few of these episodes. Who was he? For some reason I keep thinking he was also Dr. Peter Taylor, but why the name change?

Also, there was a candy striper named Judy Clampett who appears to have been the prototype for vacuous, gossipy Amy Vining

Nurse Lucille is up there.

Rick Hearst, Chris McKenna and Josh Kelly at a fan event.

Josh has put the weight back on.

the closet will do that

Josh is a lot of things, but gay isn't one of them. Spend 5 minutes with him and you'll know.

Josh is so handsome. Very surprised that he is not married. I mentioned before that he was 100% gay friendly and had gay buddies. Its a shame that he is likely MAGA adjacent.

Except for NLG, and a few others, GH is the most MAGA set in daytime.

Tell us more, r552. Who is MAGA FFS?

R552, who are the few others who aren’t MAGA?I selfishly hope they align with my favorites—Maura, Cynthia, Finola, Rebecca, Jane.

It would be easier to list who isn't MAGA, but you don't have to worry about Jane, Genie, or Laura.

Please don't tell me Mrs. Andy Dixon is a Trumper. I couldn't take it.

R556, First thing I thought--- Bingo

I don't believe Maura is full MAGA. I think she is strongly pro-life, but I've never heard anything beyond that.

R550 I spent 4 minutes with him and he’s “flexible”

Likely the reason the Danny actor and the Leo actor weren't included in Monica's funeral is because of California's limitations on how long actors under 18 can work, or be camera.

I don't know the exact amount of time, but I think its something like teenagers can only work for 6 hours or less a day. Maybe 5 hours of less.

The taping of all those funeral scenes would have taken longer than that. Even it they didn't have any lines, Danny and Leo would have had to be seen in the background for all those funeral scenes.

The man in the picture has a similar facial structure to the son of the Orange Clown, Junior Mint. But of course, the soap actor is the good-looking version.

We'll include a more attractive specimen on the next thread, R561.

-Previews For Next Week:

Monday, September 29th, 2025

Tracy gives an icy welcome.

Alexis is in danger.

Nina delivers shocking news.

Anna gets new evidence in Drew’s shooting.

Michael tries to shore up his alibi.

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Tuesday, September 30th, 2025

Sonny makes a new connection.

Carly is interrogated.

Ava has great timing.

Elizabeth confronts Britt.

Tracy makes a vow.

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Wednesday, October 1st, 2025

Monica’s will is read, with dramatic consequences.

Drew is on the warpath.

Britt is thrown.

Josslyn returns to town.

Isaiah seeks out Portia.

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Thursday, October 2nd, 2025

Anna and Chase serve a search warrant.

Alexis warns Sonny.

Giovanni makes a big decision.

Britt plays hardball.

Portia gets life-changing news.

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Friday, October 3rd, 2025

Willow is distraught.

Carly visits Elizabeth.

Curtis relays a theory to Portia.

Brennan meets with Joss.

Chase makes a revelation.

Surprise pregnancy in the works for a particular character

Portia. You could see that coming from a mile away.

R564, obviously Gio.

According to my TV schedule, GH is preempted this week on Tuesday and Wednesday for Major League baseball.

Could also be pre-empted on Thursday if a third game is needed.

Monica and Veronica? Seriously?

Monica and Veronica? Are they setting up twins?

Ugh. No pregnancies wanted for the foreseeable future.

I started watching GH in 1978. Jeff and Monica were divorced and I think the Monica that Jeff was married to was Patsy Rahn.

Technically, Monica may have been Laura's aunt via her marriage to Jeff IF Rick had adopted Laura when Monica and Jeff were married.

There were RARE scenes between Ricky Dean Anderson (Jeff) and Leslie that I can recall.

That dynamic was never played. Just occasional references to the marriage having once existed.

I imagine it was a sore spot between Jeff and Rick that the former's wife preferred the latter.

By the way, how could either Monica NOT have been head over heels in love with Ricky Dean's Jeff???

Rick Hearst, Josh Kelly and Bradford Anderson at amfan dinner in Astoria Queens.

I don't understand how these dinners bring in enough money to pay the celebrities a decent fee. Does GH subsidize these events?

^^at a fan dinner

Anyone who follows Maura West on social knows she’s just about as far left as NLG, albeit less vocal. Definitely strongly anti-Trump.

In all the years I watched, ('82 to "90) Monica's marriage to Jeff Webber was never referenced at all. In fact, I don't recall them ever mentioning Jeff.

I knew it. Thank you, r574.

R565 Bingo

I've been watching old episodes/storylines on YouTube. Billy Warlock just took over AJ from Sean Kanan. Warlock was a good enough actor, (perhaps better than Kanan), but the physical difference is so jarring, I wonder how the producers came to the decision.

Then I read Warlock was a fuck buddy of Kin Shriner? If anyone would know, it'd be you guys.

Well, Kin has never married…….

Billy Warlock was the town pincushion.......

Kin and Billy's friendship dates back to the 1980s.

As I recall reading at the time when Sean Kanan was fired, Kin recommended Billy as a recast AJ.

At that point, Kin would have had a lot of sway since he was the star of the just launched Port Charles. That may have played a factor in Billy getting hired.

Are/were Kin and Billy fucking? Many of us here at DL would certainly like to think so. But I'm not aware of any hard evidence to prove it.

Kin seems to be a "confirmed bachelor" and there was a long standing rumor that Billy and Marcy Walker broke up because Marcy walked in on Billy with another man in bed.

Not sure that equals Billy and Kin fucking, as R581 rightly states, but who knows.

Kin has never had time to date because of his busy career.

And his girlfriend in....Canada. Yeah, that's it.

Almost time for a new thread!

OP, put on your thinking cap and give us another great thread title!

[bold]This Nathan is a fake. He looked evil when Britt was leaving the hospital room. Britt knows who he really is. [/bold]

Isn't Kin's "girlfriend" the hostess at The Metro Court?

R585 I'm working on it!

During his last Locher Room interview, Kin was doing it from his girlfriend's house. Or so he said. At one point Kin has having computer problems and a female came into the room and easily fixed it.

I didn't recognize the female, but she certainly was there.

R589 = You can rent anything these days.

OK, new thread for when this one is filled....

I knew it R586! Nathan is really Dr. John Prentice out for revenge! We will show that bitch Jessie Brewer that we mean business!

Nathan West IS Phil Brewer!

I like Ryan Paevey, but not sure if he has the acting chops to play Cesar Faison, if show tries to say Faison's brain was transferred into Nathan's body or his essence has somehow taken over Nathan.

Days did that storyline already by having a computer chip containing Stefano DiMera's essence implanted into Steve Johnson's brain.

R594 true. Paevey could just about manage Nathan. His good nature and hot body meant we could overlook his lack of skills.

Hoping they don't make him Faison, but I suspect somehow it will go that way.

BUH

BYE

NOW

Once more: new thread here

Eat a bowl of dicks, Drew!