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The world turns…one of the folks who made a red state into a blue state

The great John Burton has died.

For you Xers and Zers, California was once a safe Republican stronghold—at the presidential level and even beyond. The Burtons changed that…quite the legacy .

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by Anonymousreply 11September 8, 2025 9:48 PM
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by Anonymousreply 1September 8, 2025 6:46 PM

I think Pete Wilson played a more pivotal role.

by Anonymousreply 2September 8, 2025 8:37 PM

I think you have no understanding of state politics.

by Anonymousreply 3September 8, 2025 9:17 PM

I think not.

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by Anonymousreply 4September 8, 2025 9:20 PM

I think you don’t get that there’s a lot more to California politics than a single ballot initiative. But, you go ahead and link to random punk websites, rather than offering any deep, thoughtful reply post reflecting history as we know it.

by Anonymousreply 5September 8, 2025 9:26 PM

The Burtos and the rise of a Democr

by Anonymousreply 6September 8, 2025 9:33 PM

atic party in a new form did not depend on a single ballot measure. LOL.

That’s not how Pelosi, Harris and Newsom made their way

by Anonymousreply 7September 8, 2025 9:37 PM

The Latino Legislative Caucus agrees with me, R5. But, yeah, what do they know?

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by Anonymousreply 8September 8, 2025 9:39 PM

They’re all laughing at you 8

by Anonymousreply 9September 8, 2025 9:42 PM

That's R8 to you, Dr. Brewster!

by Anonymousreply 10September 8, 2025 9:45 PM

R4 and 8 refuse to use their full name: ConventionalWisdom.

by Anonymousreply 11September 8, 2025 9:48 PM
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