Trump says federal troops are headed to Chicago: "We're Going In"

Trump’s comments come after he repeatedly targeted California Gov. Gavin Newsom, Maryland Gov. Wes Moore, and Illinois' JB Pritzker, all Democratic governors who have been outspoken against him and are possible 2028 presidential candidates.

The president later referred to Chicago ‒ and also Baltimore ‒ each as a "hell hole."

At least eight people were killed and another 50 people were injured in shootings across the city over the weekend, according to Chicago Police Department data. Trump referenced the deadly holiday weekend, calling Chicago "the worst and most dangerous city in the World, by far," in a post on Truth Social.

"Pritzker needs help badly, he just doesn’t know it yet," said Trump, who has publicly rebuffed Trump's advances to send in troops. "I will solve the crime problem fast, just like I did in DC. Chicago will be safe again, and soon. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!"

The president later followed up with another Truth Social post proclaiming, "CHICAGO IS THE MURDER CAPITAL OF THE WORLD!" It is not known when the president could send in the troops.

During the Oval Office briefing, Trump said all that Pritzker has to do is call him. “I’d be honored to take his call," Trump said. "All (Pritzker) has to do is say, ‘Sir, we need help, it’s out of control.’ Everyone knows it is. He’s not kidding anyone."

But Pritzker quickly pushed back on the president's comments, telling reporters during his own briefing in Chicago on Sept. 2, "No, I will not call the president, asking him to send troops to Chicago. I've made that clear already."

The weekend violence comes as Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson signed an executive order on Aug. 30 that he said lays out "how we can stand up against this tyranny." The mayor said the Chicago police would not assist the National Guard with immigration enforcement or related activities such as conducting traffic stops and manning checkpoints, according to the order

"This president is not going to come in and deputize our police department," Johnson said at the Aug. 30 news conference.

Chicago reported 278 homicides in 2025, according to city data. However, Chicago has experienced a remarkable drop in gun violence so far this year, with a 37% drop in shootings compared to this same period last year and 60% versus 2021, the city's data cited.

Vice President JD Vance, in an exclusive interview last week with USA TODAY, said Trump isn’t planning a long-term military occupation of American cities such as Chicago, but added the National Guard troops will need enough time to reduce crime.

"We don't want indefinitely to put National Guardsmen on the streets of our cities. We just want to make those streets more safe," said Vance on Aug. 27.

Maya Wiley, president and CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, the nation's oldest civil rights group, told USA TODAY the president and his administration are targeting places such as Chicago and Baltimore because of their success in turning the corner on shootings and homicides.

"The lies about crime, which are very racialized, and we should acknowledge it as such," Wiley said. "There's a lot of racist tropes in even the suggestion of where there are public safety concerns and where there are not."

Trump previously threatened to send troops to Chicago, just as he did in Washington, DC and Los Angeles. Meanwhile, Chicago was also bracing for a federal immigration enforcement operation.

"This isn't a political thing".

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[quote]The president later referred to Chicago ‒ and also Baltimore ‒ each as a "hell hole."

Trump won't stop until he's turned the entire country into a hell hole. He's well on his way.

If they do go in, they won't be sent to the South Side. Trump jackbooted thugs will just be meandering up and down Michigan Avenue.

R3 I'm not sure Chicago needs help with that.

[quote] If they do go in, they won't be sent to the South Side. Trump jackbooted thugs will just be meandering up and down Michigan Avenue.

Exactly.

It's all for show.

They can start by demolishing the projects and razing every gang-infested area.

As Chicago’s foremost urban criminologist, R7, have they approached you seeking consultation?

N.B. HOUSTON has a higher crime rate than Chicago

side note: I wonder where they're billeting all these NG troops they're shipping in from all over? I'll bet that's some side grift they've got going: someone house to house, feed, care for these people and don't you want to bet some MAGA crony is getting rich off these little "deployments"? That's probably what most of this is about too: directing government $$ for a service that no one wants

Cunt.

[quote] I wonder where they're billeting all these NG troops they're shipping in from all over? I'll bet that's some side grift they've got going: someone house to house, feed, care for these people and don't you want to bet some MAGA crony is getting rich off these little "deployments"?

It's all in Trump's "Big Beautiful Bill."

Or, Big Beautiful Billion, I should say.

Now you know why he wanted it passed so quickly, and why he essentially forced all Republicans to vote for it.

Contracts are going out to all of Trump's cronies, and he gets a cut.

Meanwhile, he can afford to pay the National Guard lots of overtime.

And he's offering a $50,000 signing bonus to ICE Agents, all thanks to the BBB.

Being offered is 1 thing, being paid is another. It never it's bills.

It had outside rallies and was vulnerable to assassination because it stiffed so many vendors it could not secure any other venue.

“They should demolishing the projects!” R7 , clearly not a native. They already did that.

His administration is working to normalize military operations directed at civilians.

Damn! Damn! Damn!

Fight back.

Start causing crime in the unattended red cities.

It’s all theatrics for his low-IQ plebe cultists. “Fixed” DC? But didn’t send a single troop beyond the Anacostia? And just as R4 said, they’ll be marching around The Loop, but not one will be spotted in Englewood. Theatrics.

How about banning semi-automatic weapons like every other civilized country has done?

Oh wait, we can't do that because people's freedoms.....

We have some vichy gay Chicagoans here who are hoping they will clear out the elaborate tent cities that have sprung up in Lincoln Park from Diversey north to Foster. This kind of attitude, and the permissive attitude of our dreadful Mayor Brandon Johnson who allowed these encampments gives me no hope this horrific dictatorial power grab will be thwarted.

I mean, I’d love it if the “troops” came to my neighborhood in NYC and picked up the trash and dog shit. That’d be a great start.

Can’t you see he’s just doing this to distract from the Epstein news. Now that some of the Epstein victims plan on releasing names, brace yourself.

[quote]How about banning semi-automatic weapons like every other civilized country has done?

The uncivilized have taken over and the firearm free for all will continue as long as they are in control.

Baton Rouge has a higher crime rate than Chicago.

It’s also likely poorer, fatter and less educated.

Going by Trump logic, any high crime city located in a red state should be allowed to remove the official responsible for gathering statistics and replace them with someone who will confirm that blue cities in blue states are the only true "hell holes" in the country.

Red cities with awful planning, mediocre education systems, dominance of religion in culture, racial disparities, poorer health outcomes. Why the hell do we give deference to people who just make things worse?

The worst president in US history. That's how he will be remembered which comforts me.

And he’s a child molestor who allegedly diddled his own kid.

He’s starting to look a bit like John Candy.

A soulless, evil, humorless, stupid, deranged, unimaginative, morally bankrupt John Candy.

John Candy might have pulled off a good impression of DJT.

God bless John Candy. Forgive me for sullying his memory by putting him adjacent to this fat fucking tool.

r23, you're a Nazi. "I mean, I’d love it if the “troops” came to my neighborhood in NYC and picked up the trash and dog shit. That’d be a great start." is a terrible attitude.

Who's running the show when Donald is resting? It's getting kind of bizarre, or more so. The three axis of evil together for the epic photo op was very historic, much to his disappointment and our terror. At this rate, I just see us going down a dark path unless he is stopped. Without any limits on his power, including Congress or the Supreme Court, it's going to end in riots or worse. I wonder if the people in Washington even are aware. They seem out of touch on committees.

Trump is insane.

R4 I bet they will.

Even though I don’t like Trump you gay libbies of these cities should welcome this. Now you can leave pubs and bars in Boystown without being carjacked.

Drop dead Trump, please.

Trump is the most stupid president in history. It hurts to know this and is dangerous. "Any way the wind blows doesn't really matter to me."

In classic TACO fashion, he's now backing down on Chicago, thanks to some tough talk from Governor Pritzker, and talking about New Orleans instead.

He always overdoes it. Overkill. That dumbass is worrying about Chicago, while Putin, and Xi and North Korea are prancing around holding hands. Once Putin got his big boost from his visit with Trump who is now doing next to nothing to defend NATO and Ukraine, Vlad and his allies think they can wrap it up soon and crush Ukraine. This theater of Trump's is a complete disgrace. I cannot believe the rest of the world is allowing the United States to fail like this. It's in their interests to try to stop him. And how the fuck can corporate America allow him to fuck up with the Tariffs? And where the fuck is Big Pharma when we need them? They cannot possibly be OK with what RFK is doing?

I hate him and that's not going to change. Ever. We Americans shouldn't have to endure this misery because he cheated. RIGGED!

People in Chicago have guns and my prediction is that they'll start shooting at whoever Trump sends in.

I imagine that is what Trump is trying to instigate and I'm afraid he'll get it.

I predict Trump has pushed Americans too far and some regular, generally law-abiding citizens are gonna start using their "2nd Amendment remedies".

I’m thinking the exact same thing r43.

Yeah they are definitely hoping they will get resistance and blowback and then they can violently quell it to send a very definitive message.

This is happening because Trump has been watching James Cagney movies.

[quote]I predict Trump has pushed Americans too far and some regular, generally law-abiding citizens are gonna start using their "2nd Amendment remedies".

I say your prediction is wrong. If anyone shoots at the National Guard they won't be the "law abiding" citizens of Chicago.

Okay R33. Sure, Jan 🙄

Amazing how Trumpers love Brady Bunch references. See R48 and the constant use of "Russia, Russia, Russia".

I feel like the reason is that they're all so fucking old.

[quote]Baton Rouge has a higher crime rate than Chicago.

To all the people who keep going on about red cities having more crime than blue cities, newsflash, Democrats rarely arrest/prosecute anymore, so it gives the illusion that crime has gone down.

In reality, Dems are turning a blind eye and refusing to report, but it doesn't mean that crime isn't happening or hasn't gotten worse.

Sure, Jan/R49.

So basically, R50 knows better. She knows - just KNOWS - that there is tons of crime out there that the Liberal Elite doesn't want you to know about. And that police departments and the FBI and the entire law enforcement infrastructure of the USA is so riddled with lying liberals that you can't trust their statistics. If only the NYPD or the FBI had brave conservatives on staff who'd tell the TRUTH!

Here is a list of cities with more than 100,000 residents that have higher crime rates than Chicago, per the FBI. And yes, they are all blue cities.

Birmingham, Alabama (58.8)

St. Louis, Missouri (54.1)

Memphis, Tennessee (40.6)

Baltimore, Maryland (34.8)

Detroit, Michigan (31.2)

Cleveland, Ohio (30)

Dayton, Ohio (29.7)

Kansas City, Missouri (27.6)

Shreveport, Louisiana (26.8)

Washington, D.C. (25.5)

Richmond, Virginia (24.2)

South Fulton, Georgia (22.2)

Cincinnati, Ohio (21.8)

Louisville, Kentucky (21.7)

Indianapolis, Indiana (20)

Oakland, California (18.6)

Albuquerque, New Mexico (18.4)

Montgomery, Alabama (18.1)

Minneapolis, Minnesota (18)

Lancaster, California (17.7)

Little Rock, Arkansas (17.6)

Hartford, Connecticut (17.6)

Trump claims to be going to Chicago to curb crime but the military order leaked by Ken Kiippensten states they're there to protect ICE. This is an ICE operation. They won't be going near the Black high crime areas.

Trump wants very much to declare martial law. Look at the huge budget he has proposed for ICE and "immigration enforcement." They will be building more detention centers. What's happening right now isn't even a dress rehearsal for what we will see in another year. BTW: Kiss free, fair elections good bye. Won't be seeing them anymore.

R8, are you on crack? Baltimore and Chicago are shitholes.

[quote] Baltimore and Chicago are shitholes.

Where do you live? When was the last time you went to either place? What are you basing this on?

R33 Is that list specifically for violent crime?

"We're going in" is the same thing he said about grabbing the pussies of teenage beauty pageant contestants.

R53 Do those cities you listed have mass shootings virtually every weekend like Chicago. In Chicago and recently in the Bronx gunfire erupts on the street with many innocent people being shot or killed.

[quote] This kind of attitude, and the permissive attitude of our dreadful Mayor Brandon Johnson who allowed these encampments gives me no hope this horrific dictatorial power grab will be thwarted.

He's not sending troops to Chicago to help anyone feel safer or more comfortable. Your 'dreadful' Mayor will soon be your champion.

A better way to prevent crime is to pay people a decent wage for their work so they have a stake in being cooperative and part of the community.

[quote]The worst president in US history. That's how he will be remembered which comforts me.

History will not be kind to him or the people who supported him, which I'm fine with. No amount of MAGA whitewashing will ever be able to give him the legacy of being even a decent president. He fucked up any chance of that on January 6, 2021 and that's not even counting the bullshit he's doing now. Hell, he could bring peace to the Middle East and the first line in history books would still mention him being the first president to deny the results of a fair election and the subsequent attempt to prevent a peaceful handover of power.

The crime stats debate is entirely irrelevant, so I don't know why people get into that debate.

Trump has no business going into Chicago even if the crime stats were as bad as the claim. THAT Is the relevant part.

Cities have officials that are elected by the local community. If you want a mayor that cracks down on crime, vote for one. If the candidate you wanted lost, that's democracy. You don't get to have the federal government come in and takeover your city because of local crime problems. That's not how any of this is supposed to work.

R60 Agreed. Chicago is a special case.

[Quote] A better way to prevent crime is to pay people a decent wage for their work so they have a stake in being cooperative and part of the community.

Does that include gang members? I feel like many of the shootings that we're reading about in Chicago and in New York are gang related.

from ABC 7 NY:

Four of the alleged gang members were already in police custody and the other eight were arrested on Aug. 28.

Katz says Labor Day weekend was quiet in terms of gun violence and there is a direct correlation to the gang takedown.-

[quote]A better way to prevent crime is to pay people a decent wage for their work so they have a stake in being cooperative and part of the community.

And how much should that minimum wage per hour be to "prevent crime"?

When people see rich powerful connected bastards commit crimes and get away with it, they lose respect for the law and they honestly do not have anymore fucks to give. You want to lower crime, create jobs, pay people a living wage, and start living up to the comical bullshit we spout about "No one is above the Law."

[quote]You want to lower crime, create jobs, pay people a living wage

You think those hood-rat thugs shooting up Chicago are going to get up in the morning, arrive to work on time, get along with their co-workers, take directions and criticism from their boss, learn from their mistakes, and all the other qualities you have to have to hold down a job?

They may not be old enough to join the workforce.

'Historically, there have been violent incidents at the parade, including in 2024 when one man was killed and four people were injured in what police said was a gang-related shooting.

The NYPD issued its largest deployment of the year Monday with 2,500 officers surged into Brooklyn. There were 13 security checkpoints at the parade, and spectators were screened with handheld metal detectors.

Mayor Eric Adams released a statement on the violence, saying in part, "Last night's violence in Brooklyn during the West Indian Day Parade is a painful reminder that even one shooting is one too many. We will not allow the reckless actions of a few to overshadow the vibrant culture and joy of this celebration or the progress we've made in making our city safer."

According to the NYPD, overall crime has gone down since the beginning of the year. In Brooklyn, there's a 14% decline in shooting incidents compared to the same time last year.

But Public Advocate Jumaane Williams says, "Data means nothing to the people who were shot."

"They don't want to just hear data," he added. "They want their loved ones and their communities to stop dealing with this violence."

and yet 7 people were shot, one fatally and 2 people slashed. Even with all the preparation the event was more violent than last year's.

R69 Yes many will. There will be some that won't but many will.I have been al over this world and seen many places. Most people are good and want to cooperate and be helpful.They want to be liked respected and appreciated. The vast majority will respond positively to these actions. Actually A few bad apples do most of the damage in this world. If we could only develop a behavioral immune system that worked to prevent the Trumps and Stalins . However in my opinion, As it is, A chaotic mess is still better than ridgid order.

[quote]In reality, Dems are turning a blind eye and refusing to report, but it doesn't mean that crime isn't happening or hasn't gotten worse.

Thanks for the news flash from Truth Social, which, incidentally, has no relation to reality.

The city is still that bad?

R72 We're not talking about the Sharks and the Jets from West Side Story.

R74, apparently this is no longer of interest to Trump, so he’s thinking about invading New Orleans, a blue city in a red state. I expect we’ll see a lot of Guardsmen taking selfies on Bourbon Street.

R72 has been to Nice and the Isles of Greece, and sipped champagne on a yacht. But has she been to her? And if so, was she a bad apple, or a chaotic mess?

[quote]As it is, A chaotic mess is still better than ridgid order.

Describe your neighborhood, R72.

The word here in Chicago is that the feds will come to assist ICE but the DC-style mobilization promised earlier is going elsewhere.

I still don't have a fucking clue why crime stats or chaos vs. order debate have anything to do with this. City crime is a matter for the city and its people to care about and solve. Maybe to some extent the state. The President has nothing to do with something that local. I think it's legitimizing his power grab to even talk about these irrelevant issues.

I Do WhAt i WaNT!

-King Dementia

Exactly, R80. This is all for show. He cares about one thing and one thing only, himself.

I bet those are the same words Melania hears from him when she has to give it up.

If Pritzker puts words to actions, we could be seeing IL national guard defending Chicago from Texas National Guard.

Civil War 2025 here we come!

TRUMP: Chicago, I'm inside of you.

CHICAGO: RAPE! RAPE! SOMEONE CALL 911!

[quote]I bet those are the same words Melania hears from him when she has to give it up.

You just know the sight of that cocklet disgusts her.

I really kinda don't wanna know, but I'd bet good money that shithead hasn't been able to get it up since the Reagan administration.

Trump: why fight crime when you can commit it?

R72 for someone who's supposedly worldly, your whole post is very naive. Also, your last sentence is insane:

[quote]However in my opinion, As it is, A chaotic mess is still better than ridgid order.

This is why Democrats are losing credibility and people are not taking them seriously anymore.

You can deny all you want, but liberal blue cities are collapsing because of soft-on-crime policies, rampant homelessness, and overall civil disorder. Most Americans don't want the rest of the country like that.

The Democrats' socialist experiment has been disastrous and will keep them out of power for as long as they stay far-left, which seems to be indefinitely.

Even if that were true, it's up to the voters in those cities to handle the problem. If they keep electing people who don't handle the "problems", then too bad. That's called democracy. And we live in a country where the division between city, state, and federal all matter. The President has no fucking role here. If voters in Arkanfuck want San Francisco to crack down on innocent homeless people, that's too fucking bad.

TACO…yet again. No guts, no glory.

[quote]If voters in Arkanfuck want San Francisco to crack down on innocent homeless people, that's too fucking bad.

Arkanfuck is hilarious. Might as well call the capital, Little Cock.

[quote]liberal blue cities are collapsing because of soft-on-crime policies, rampant homelessness, and overall civil disorder. Most Americans don't want the rest of the country like that.

They are not collapsing, but what we see here in Chicago is jarring. The tent cities and our tax dollars going, not to permanent housing, but expensive tents and a coddling of living in our public spaces where we would be ticketed and fined if we wandered in after 10:30 pm. Or the lack of any police investigative support after a burglary or mugging.

A lot of the points in this thread are overstating the case, but even among my liberal friends there is some support for a reset - yet Trump's plan will not be reversible and many people don't seem to realize the danger we're in as a result.

R89 no one has taken advantage of the Law and been an advocate for leniency regarding crime, more than Trump. He is a fucking convicted criminal and yet there he is in the White House destroying as much of our country as he can.

[quote]The Democrats' socialist experiment has been disastrous...

Oh. Where exactly has the Democratic Socialist experiment been happening? What governors, representatives and Senators are in office making this happen? I am unaware of any.

LIberal blue cities are committing suicide by their housing policies. The homeless camps (to the extent they exist) are a direct outgrowth of how expensive housing is. Build more housing, lower housing costs. More people move there. More political power.

Crime has been down in DC since he sent in the National Guard. Why not try it in Chicago to see if it yields similar results? What could it hurt?

R97 is right! There's practically no crime in Pyongyang!

Neville Chamberlain has entered the chat at r97! Hiya, Nev...

[Quote] Crime has been down in DC since he sent in the National Guard. Why not try it in Chicago to see if it yields similar results? What could it hurt?

We cannot normalize this. The President shouldn’t just be able to make up a crisis and send in federal troops to an American city.

Violent crime in DC has been at a 30 year low in DC—so these troops are arresting very very low level crimes like smoking pot in public and have also been tasked with spreading mulch and gardening in the Mall area of DC. We’re paying for all of this nonsense.

[Quote] Crime has been down in DC since he sent in the National Guard.

Crime was down before he sent in the troops

[Quote] The Democrats' socialist experiment has been disastrous..

You mean like social security and Medicare?

[quote]We cannot normalize this. The President shouldn’t just be able to make up a crisis and send in federal troops to an American city.

I will admit that I am more conservative on crime prevention and policing, but I agree that we should not normalize it, but at the same time, something needs to be done. A lot of major cities' response to George Floyd was to tie the hands of the police, and look what happened.

[quote] Violent crime in DC has been at a 30 year low in DC

I am not certain that those statistics are accurate. (Not that you've posted something incorrectly) I just think certain crimes are going under-reported to fit a particular narrative. I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

[quote]We cannot normalize this.

What we have normalized is out of control crime rates.

What we have normalized is 58 people shot over a weekend in Chicago. And look up any weekend. Pick any weekend and Google "Chicago shootings" and see.

Any civilized country would in fact be sending in a military back up.

[quote]Violent crime in DC has been at a 30 year low in DC

That means nothing when the violent crime rate is the highest of any other country's capital.

1,006 violent crimes per 100K people (2024)

3,693 property crimes per 100K people (2024)

^ What should not be normalized, are those kind of numbers.

[quote]Crime was down before he sent in the troops

"Compared to the US average, the violent crime rate in 2024 in Washington, DC was 180% higher, and its rate of property crime was 109.8% higher."

So, r104, what is your plan to get Trump to de-escalate this deployment and not further mis-use it for his own purposes... and soon? Or does the U. S. Constitution not matter until it affects YOU?

R104, most First World countries have gun control laws. If you can't control gun trafficking you'll get a lot of crime. The free availability of U.S. guns also enables gun violence in Mexico.

[quote]Or does the U. S. Constitution not matter until it affects YOU?

Speak to the people who have to live in these areas with absurdly high crime rates. Tell us about where you live.

BTW: The DC deployment ends on the 10th.

From there, DC with continue to cooperate with federal law enforcement.

R105, Trump is a loose cannon and will do whatever he wants. We know this. I'm tired of worrying about what Trump MAY do. We have a serious problem in major cities right now, and it appears that sending in the National Guard has helped. None of this is ideal, but we can't keep putting our heads in the sand about this.

R106 We do need stricter gun control laws, but I'm not sure that is the panacea that some seem to think it is.

[quote]most First World countries have gun control laws. If you can't control gun trafficking you'll get a lot of crime. The free availability of U.S. guns also enables gun violence in Mexico.

Those gun control laws also include tactics that would never fly in the US.

I can't speak for all Euro countries, but Italy with its low crime rate allows stop-and-frisk. Also vehicles can be stopped and searched at any time at the whim of police. Try that in the US.

The problem is not the registered gun owners. The problem is illegal gun ownership and guns coming in from other countries, especially. Eastern Europe.

Also, as in France, the military can be and is used to patrol the streets.

[quote]Crime has been down in DC since he sent in the National Guard. Why not try it in Chicago to see if it yields similar results? What could it hurt?

What a gullible little retard you are. It’s down because Trump bleats it’s down? Which categories? By how much? Compared to when? What is the target? The NG isn’t even in the areas with the highest crime rates! I really hate useful idiots like you.

[quote]Crime has been down in DC since he sent in the National Guard. Why not try it in Chicago to see if it yields similar results? What could it hurt?

Correct.

NBC News - Aug. 27, 2025:

"Mayor Muriel Bowser says Trump's surge of federal law enforcement has lowered crime in D.C."

""We greatly appreciate the surge of officers that enhance what MPD has been able to do in this city," Bowser, a Democrat, told reporters about the expansion of federal law enforcement and its partnership with the Metropolitan Police Department."

"Carjackings, she said, were the "most troubling" crime that plagued D.C. in 2023, and they have decreased in recent years. Bowser said that in the 20 days since the federal takeover, there has been an 87% drop in carjackings compared with the same period last year. The data cited also showed a 15% fall in crime overall in the district during the same period last year."

"We know that when carjackings go down, when use of guns goes down, when homicide or robbery go down, neighborhoods feel safer and are safer, so this surge has been important to us," said Bowser, who added that she has been personally engaged with Attorney General Pam Bondi and White House chief of staff Susie Wiles."

[Quote] What we have normalized is out of control crime rates. What we have normalized is 58 people shot over a weekend in Chicago. And look up any weekend. Pick any weekend and Google "Chicago shootings" and see.

Chicago isn’t even in the top 10 most dangerous places in the US for crime per capita. If Trump really cared about fixing crime, he’d send troops to Louisiana and Mississippi. Plus, there is no evidence that crime goes down when you increase policing. Instead police over police’s ticketing and arresting people for petty crimes

[Quote] Mayor Muriel Bowser says Trump's surge of federal law enforcement has lowered crime in D.C.

She wants to keep her job. What do you think she’ll say. None of this is sustainable.

Want to reduce crime? Bring down wealth disparities. THAT is the cause of crime and the only want to fix it.

[quote]She wants to keep her job. What do you think she’ll say. None of this is sustainable.

Are you claiming the figures she's citing are false?

[quote]She wants to keep her job.

Oh, in other words she wants the support of the residents of the city and wants to be re-elected.

[quote]Want to reduce crime? Bring down wealth disparities.

Yeah, right.

[quote]She wants to keep her job. What do you think she’ll say. None of this is sustainable.

She is a Democrat, saying this in a majority democratic city. She is not toeing the party line here and will probably end up primaried.

[quote]Want to reduce crime? Bring down wealth disparities.

OFFS.

Baltimore

The Wire went easy on Baltimore. None of us would ever walk the streets of Baltimore outside of a few tourist areas without a police escort. . I really feel for the people that have to live there. Very dangerous place.

But I am a fan. I do love that city.

[Quote] Are you claiming the figures she's citing are false?

Sure, for a week crime went down. Long term, this never works.

Statistics for right after an intervention is rarely a long term gauge

[Quote] She is a Democrat, saying this in a majority democratic city. She is not toeing the party line here

If she doesn’t say something positive, Trump will get her back somehow. She just stated facts for the present. She also has federal troops roaming through her streets.

When there’s a real emergency, this gives Trump Permission to do whatever he wants

This is just like “Shock and Awe” in Iraq. Short-term, it seemed like an effective strategy. Long-term, we run with our tail between our legs

There is NO reason for Trump to be doing this. It doesn't matter if crime rates are up. This is not an area for the President to be involved with. That's basic civics. And the MAGAt in here acting like it's the crime rates that are the issue is infuriating. Your support for a tyrannical dictator will not be forgotten.

[quote]If she doesn’t say something positive, Trump will get her back somehow.

She wants a new football stadium to be her legacy. Trump would be happy to scuttle that somehow if she doesn't play ball.

[quote]Sure, for a week crime went down. Long term, this never works. Statistics for right after an intervention is rarely a long term gauge

I asked: "Are you claiming the figures she's citing are false?"

Answer the question. The correct answer is: the figures she's citing are true.

Whether the results will have a long term impact is another discussion on which we can only speculate. She has stated that DC will continue to work with Federal agencies.

[quote]It doesn't matter if crime rates are up.

Maybe it's this kind of thinking that is the real problem.

"We're going in" is what Donald and Alan Dershowitz used to say when about to spit roast a 13-year-old.

[Quote]We do need stricter gun control laws, but I'm not sure that is the panacea that some seem to think it is.

we need world peace as well as gun restrictions in the US

I wonder which one we will see first.

[Quote] Maybe it's this kind of thinking that is the real problem.

Then why stop at invading a city with the Federal Guard? Why not actively bomb neighborhoods? That’ll stop crime too

[Quote] I asked: "Are you claiming the figures she's citing are false?" Answer the question. The correct answer is: the figures she's citing are true.

The correct answer is “It doesn’t matter.”

[Quote] We do need stricter gun control laws, but I'm not sure that is the panacea that some seem to think it is.

Shouldn’t we give it a try?

[Quote] we need world peace as well as gun restrictions in the US. I wonder which one we will see first.

We’ll see guns banned for trans. And then claim gun control is a failure when mass shootings dont stop

R132 we did try. We lost the House, the Senate, the White House, the Popular Vote, and All 7 battle ground states. And we spent a ton of money doing so. Tough to make major national changes when you are an unpopular minority party that gets its ass kicked.

That’s the problem we really did try.

We won’t see guns banned for trans. Because even if they tried and they won’t the trans will be smart enough to take off the dress and put on men’s pants when they go gun shopping. Besides there is no national list of all the trans. Trans will have their right to gear up and like at stonewall once again lead the way ,

You can’t ban trans from buying because that would be the slippery slope.

[quote]Then why stop at invading a city with the Federal Guard? Why not actively bomb neighborhoods? That’ll stop crime too

This is why it's so hard to have reasonable discussions with some of you. You always take it too far. The National Guard aiding the local police departments is not the horror some of you want it to be. The only people mad about this are the criminals, people thinking about committing crimes, and bleeding hearts tucked safely away in their bougie neighborhoods behind a keyboard.

[Quote] we did try. We lost the House, the Senate, the White House, the Popular Vote

The only time the Dems tried was the very effective assault weapon ban

I have seen US Army airborne troops deployed in large numbers to my city and then assisted local police by killing lots of our residents. If you think around 50 is a lot ( that’s based on a bad memory but it’s real close)

Look at how MacArthur and Ike got their start leading active duty troops in an American city and killing US citizens who were asking for their promised bonus money.

Trump is not blazing a new virgin trail he is following an old one.

OK but you do realize that winning a national election and taking significant control of congress is the start of actually trying now. Because if you are not the popular people who won and now control all branches of fed govt you cant change shit.

[quote]most First World countries have gun control laws. If you can't control gun trafficking you'll get a lot of crime.

That's communism! Americans have a right to own guns because Jesus said so in the Bible!

[quote] Besides there is no national list of all the trans.

Mr. Thiel is developing his Foundry database. Everything the government and big business have on us in one place.

Conservatives believe in fairy tales and magic. They live by their feelings and their impulses. If there's something they really feel (in this case, that cities are scary and dangerous), then it must be true. Any piece of evidence contradicting that must be rigged or faked or cast into doubt and they will go to insane lengths to make it seem almost-possibly-semi-plausibly-half-true.

Is this fairy tales and magic? Is the AP making up stories?

[Quote] The National Guard aiding the local police departments is not the horror some of you want it to be.

The city didn’t ask for this. Trump forced it upon it. Trump is only focusing on liberal cities and ignore higher crime in Republican states.

therein lies the problem. It’s not about reserving crime at all.

[Quote] Is this fairy tales and magic? Is the AP making up stories?

Yes, terrible. The answer isn’t closing the town with federal troops

[quote]The city didn’t ask for this.

In fact. That's how hopelessly stupid Chicago's mayor is.

R135 He’s fucking insane and so are you. He posted a meme of a helicopter shooting flames at Chicago and said the city will know the meaning of The Department of War.

R146 he says a lot of stupid shit and posts a lot of stupid shit. He posts pictures of himself, muscular and in shape. He lies as easily as he breathes. He's not going to be shooting flames from a helicopter at Chicago. However, I bet the people on the south and west sides of Chicago may welcome some kind of help so they don't have to stay locked up in their houses.

Bowser is scared of her own shadow, and wouldn’t dare say anything to contradict an ascendant maniacal Trump, lest he blow her out of the water.

[quote]Are you claiming the figures she's citing are false?

The MPD has been infiltrated so they very well could be…massaged.

R147 Thats not going to happen because no one is going to the South or West sides. Just like no one is in Anacostia. The Loop? River North? Streeterville? Lincoln Park? That’s where they’ll be.

[quote]The MPD has been infiltrated so they very well could be…massaged.

Oh....so they're hiding bodies? They're not counting homicides to make it look like homicides have gone down? Is that what it is?

"We're going in" ?!!

Seriously, who the fuck does this moron think he is? Just like his "big" military birthday parade - it's a fucking show.

[quote]Oh....so they're hiding bodies? They're not counting homicides to make it look like homicides have gone down? Is that what it is?

Trump cucks are ridiculous. I didn’t say anything about murder…and neither did they. But I do recall endless magat prattling about faked homicide numbers when they began to fall.

How embarrassing for this country and anyone in the military.

[quote]I didn’t say anything about murder…and neither did they.

You're wrong again.

CNN AUG 28, 2025

"Earlier, Bowser highlighted that the increase in federal law enforcement contributed to “an extreme reduction in carjackings” and a decrease in gun crimes and homicides."

He's insane and keeps getting worse.

When the federal combat troops arrived in my city, some years ago, I could hear the gun fire going on for days. Who sent those troops into my city and ended up killing so many of our citizens? A democratic president .

Was he right in doing so?

You bet your ass he was the police were not close to being able to control it.

Democratic President Johnson was actually in many ways a great president. Many not all.

Conservatives - I don’t care what the statistics or local residents say. I see more brown people, therefore there’s more crime.

I remember right after the ejection, well election but it was an ejection as well, reading the panic driven articles and comments here on DL about 4 pick up trucks driving thru WEHO that had Trump stickers on them. Just driving thru.

If WEHO is ever over run and those that live there no longer feel safe to go out on the streets they will be happy to have armed troops in the streets otherwise they would never leave their apt and would end up spending a fortune on Uber Eats.

R140 you a smart poster here are claiming that the US federal govt is developing a comprehensive list of all the trans in the US? Shocking. I never knew that. But what insight you can gain at the DL.

The only time I have seen the federal govt keep a coded record of gay men and trans in the US , were the CDC and local STD people. And those records were very coded and kept very private from prying eyes. And it was never a single list as such more an individuals personal STD record .of their contacts and suspects,

Do I have to declare I am trans and do a snip or is the now and then dress wearing enough to make that list?

R159 Don't you know about Palantir?

“We’re going in” chilling words exciting words sometimes dreaded sometimes welcome words

Trump must be spending his time watching combat movies

“We’re going in” —-that is often the first and maybe only thing they say before , well before you start to pack and do get ready to go in, It’s a time they tell you to put down the porn and start rucking up for a combat mission.

the words of a warrior :-)

R155 this isn't insane. the plot to destroy america and resurrect it as a network of city states has been published for years. it's important to understand that these aren't the random actions of a madman, but a serious plot to overthrow the country.

R160 you did not answer my question you just asked me another.

Is the US govt developing a list of all trans in the US as you suggest? If you know the answer it should be a yes or know answer. Not another question from you.

And how do we actually define trans? Dress up on the weekend or no longer any penis?

The question is not if a national list of just about anything “could be “ maintained.

I realize some twit will go to the trouble of posting and calling names so this saves their time

No , not know answer , above.

[quote]However, I bet the people on the south and west sides of Chicago may welcome some kind of help so they don't have to stay locked up in their houses.

National Guard troops will not be stationed anywhere near the south side.

[quote]Trump must be spending his time watching combat movies

The big question is whether he's spending his sad last days watching them.

R166

Brother I know I am 😞

The Hill on 10/16/24 - Kamala’s newest lie: Trump will send the army after you

Saying "Chicago is not a lawless violent hellhole akin to Mogadishu" does not mean "there is zero crime anywhere."

You're a child.

Trump didn't "become" a tyrant. He was one. And in our hubris we never took any measures to prevent what has happened. Trump and his backers manipulated a very porous system and seized power. Now even though he controls Congress and the Courts, he defies the laws and just pushes forward. Because...who is gonna stop him. And right now, we'd lose in an armed struggle. If fact, He'd love it if things got violent. He may not be able to control Putin or Netanyahu, but dammit he will control Chicago. LOL!

This isn't the Revolutionary War of the 1700's or the Civil War of the 1800's. This is Germany. 1930's.

Invading an American city is not the answer, considering the crimes committed by Trump and his supporters in DC are ignored

[Quote] The Hill on 10/16/24 - Kamala’s newest lie: Trump will send the army after you

Um, that’s exactly what he’s doing

R172 that shit would have never happened if Harris had won, As you point out so well this is the price lowly unpopular losers pay.

I remember when we Dems were the popular majority party. I m old. Ted and I chatted about that at a convention years ago.

Today it is what it is. I miss Ted.

R173 Right. I'm pointing out how outrageous the media's treatment of Kamala Harris and the 2024 coverage in general was.

How far this country has strayed.

[quote]I remember when we Dems were the popular majority party.

Sweetie, the Dems won in 2020. It wasn't that long ago. Buck up.

Yes the Dems were once popular and the majority party and could win despite the EC. That is not the world we live in now.

Many Americans claim that Biden stole his win :-) So there is that.

2020 seems like a life time ago. I see a GOP win in 2028 based on what I see today with the Dems. So buck up indeed.

A big difference between x is so popular and exciting and I can’t wait to vote for them vs what I see onDL —-that we need to find someone acceptable to the party. And so far we can’t.

R178 = MAGA asshole concern trolling

R179

Nope just another democratic loser like you. I don’t call names though even if you can’t make an intelligent as to why I might be wrong. Which you can’t.

Democratics are not getting stronger right now and anyone that thinks they are is an idiot.

Sorry I am not implying R179 is an idiot because that would be name calling.

I do await an intelligent response back from R179 if one is possible.

[quote]I don’t call names

[quote]Democratics are not getting stronger right now and anyone that thinks they are [bold]is an idiot[/bold].

Huh.

Is R180 very young? Or just very forgetful? Every time (and I mean EVERY time) the Dems lose, it's an existential crisis for them. And then they win. And then that's another existential crisis, but please. We don't need doomsaying. Trump is bad and scary and these people are criminals and doing horrible damage.

It will take work and effort and all that to beat them, but the future is unwritten and we are not doomed.

The Democrats had to pull the nation out of the GOP or MAGA grease fire after Bush I, Bush II, and Trump's first term. Obama's team staved off an international depression, for fuck's sake.

The GOP cares nothing for effective governance. It's been abject greed and power-mongering since Goldwater's positions were distorted and used by Nixon and Reagan and the divisive-loon factions since then that now have overwhelmed the party.

People don't seem to know what a civil war looks like, even as it rolls over us.

None of the previous presidential administrations, R or D, have ever been like this, r183. Yes, some of them involved bad, even terrible things (Dubya being a prime example with his lies and war) at times, but they did not threaten the existence of this country in the same way that Trump is doing. . He's declaring war on American cities. He's talking about a third term. He seems to be setting things up to perhaps declare an emergency and cancel the midterms. He's destroying important government agencies. He's ruined our strong ties to allies that we've had for decades and decades. It's not just one major catastrophe. He's making us weak and unstable in every single area.

You're right. But he's not omnipotent. Politics still exists. He's fallible - weak, even.

Despair is a luxury we can't afford.

And I'm not saying that I necessarily agree with r178's take on how Dems will be perceived in the future. But I see this time around as completely different from anything that has come before. It's not politics as usual.

R182 beat you to it. See I am one that man’s up when I make or think I made a mistake.

As in “ I am an idiot I was sure Harris would win. That shows how dumb I was”

Kamala also won the 2024 election, the machines were hacked and Elon interfered with the counts somehow.

R188 she did win.

I started out with Ike Stevenson election

. I have never seen any party so set for a sweeping win as the Dems were set up for last Nov. We were running against an orange felon.

It was a sweeping win. I remember the arguments here about how big a win and how many battle ground states we Dems would win.

5 or all 7?

We got skunked we got rolled we got swept. My goodness losing the popular vote and all 7 battle ground states was a crushing blow.

Crushing.

And what Dem actually excites the party today . Not tolerated but actually excites.

That’ just above is a question does anyone have a good answer?

We might have a better chance next time if we run Taylor and the tight end. At least they are popular,

It's the messaging. And it's the fact that the GOP has control of the media. They have studied voter behavior and they know exactly how to manipulate it. They have even gotten granular in their understanding of language choices. Which words work best. This actually started in the 90's. Gingrich and Frank Luntz. Contract on America. The internet has allowed them to spread information conspiracies, lies etc. with alarming speed, and at a lower cost. Years ago, political campaigns bought mailing lists to do mass mailings. Now, that is all but abandoned because they have the internet. We will never win elections unless we have an understanding of how our opponents are defeating us.

R186 confuses Trump with The Fascist Movement and awareness with despair, right down to that pat and rather disgusting "luxury" comment.

IGNORANCE and INDIFFERENCE are the luxuries this nation cannot afford. And waiting for Trump to die or for a fresh Supreme Court to hand back the constitutional government the current SCOTUS is a partner is dismantling is no answer to address this crisis/catastrophe.

And the slaughter continues:

ABC NEWS - Sept 8th

"Chicago shootings: At least 18 shot, 6 fatally, in weekend gun violence across city, police say"

R194, Russia should invade us to stop our crime.

According to the logic of some, just the reduction of crime is enough to justify anything

[Quote] "Chicago shootings: At least 18 shot, 6 fatally, in weekend gun violence across city, police say"

Hmm, maybe do something about guns… just a thought

It's pretty obvious to people in other countries. It is obvious to many of us right here in the USA. Donald Trump has gone to war....against the United States. He is on a retribution and punishment tour and for the next four years or longer if he can, he will attack, invade persecute and oppress tens of millions of people. The Supreme Court has been compromised., Congress is compromised, and there seems to be no urgency on the part of the Democrats to mobilize. Our NATO allies need to invade and purge this government of it's Putin supporters. We ought to petition the United Nations.

If we banned guns in Indiana (specifically, Gary) there'd be no guns in Chicago.

R198 Oh please. There are so many guns in circulation in the US that a gun ban would have little effect. The people doing these shooting are not registered gun owners. They are criminals. Criminals know how to get drugs, how to get guns.

What WOULD be most effective would be stop and frisk. And the ability for cops to pull over a car and search it. As they do in other countries along with their strict gun control laws.

[quote]There are so many guns in circulation in the US that a gun ban would have little effect.

Guns can be taken out of circulation.

It's easy for people with the right expertise to hack in and change voting results. Especially with paperless voting. Why do you think Trump is attacking mail in ballots. The way elections are set up is that each voting district is comprised of precincts. It is nothing to alter 4-5 votes in a precinct. So, let's say a precinct has 700-1000 registered voters. and there are 500 precincts in a voting district and hundreds of districts in a state. It can be done and not detected.

FACTS R189 and R201!!!

Unfortunately, if actual proof were tobe found, too much of the mainstream media have decided to kiss Trump’s dirty ass to make this a major news story. We will have to rely on independent media and the people to get the word out.

Middle-aged Chicagoan expresses her opinion to MSNBC's Shaq Brewster:

[quote]He needs to check the immigration status of his own wife and baby ... send her ass back to wherever she came from!

[quote]There are so many guns in circulation in the US that a gun ban would have little effect

Why not try it? See what happens? Judging by how hysterical the lunatics get over the hint of one, they seem to think it'll have an effect.

R204 I agree there should be a gun ban. But, realistically, I also believe it will have little effect on crime.

A ban would help with automatic weapons, and the nut cases who are registered gun owners, but the people doing the shooting we're seeing in a city like Chicago are criminals, they're not registered gun owners. And they use pistols, not automatics.

Note how you rarely see an arrest of these people and no news about where they purchased their gun? It's because they use trafficked guns.

So how do you tackle that? The ONLY way is by confiscating them. Stop & frisk and the search of homes. A mere "gun ban" is NOT going to affect them.

[quote]Guns can be taken out of circulation.

How?

[Quote] There are so many guns in circulation in the US that a gun ban would have little effect.

Banning of assault weapons under Clinton showed amazing results (although the GOP complexly lied and said it did nothing). Gun restrictions work. Gun deaths are far more prevalent in states that have fewer restrictions

R206, gun buyback programs are pretty effective if the guns are destroyed afterwards

Once you offer a buy back and if you couple it with an amnesty period, if you find assault weapons or other banned guns especially while committing a crime, or even if you're stopped for a traffic enforcement issue, you should have mandatory minimum sentences. Also publish the names of the violators. And have excessive fines. Clinton's assault weapons ban was fantastic. George W. Bush allowed it to expire.

[quote]Banning of assault weapons under Clinton showed amazing results

Of course assault weapons should be banned, but the problem in our cities is not assault weapons.

Assault weapons are involved in a small percentage of total gun deaths in the U.S. In 2020, rifles (a category including assault rifles) were involved in about 3% of gun murders in the U.S." Clinton's assault weapon ban (which I'm all for) had little impact on the overall number of homicides."

[quote]Banning of assault weapons under Clinton showed amazing results

Of course assault weapons should be banned, but the problem in our cities is not assault weapons.

Assault weapons are involved in a small percentage of total gun deaths in the U.S. "In 2020, rifles (a category including assault rifles) were involved in about 3% of gun murders in the U.S." Clinton's assault weapon ban (which I'm all for) had little impact on the overall number of homicides.

I'm sorry, but how the fuck did this thread become a debate over gun bans/gun rights?

There is a man very close to successfully turning this country into a true dictatorship. He just declared war on a city. Not even the criminal element of a city. A fucking American city. And that's what this thread is about. Not crime. Not the wisdom or stupidity of this or that gun law.

He may give you your gun ban soon enough, and a whole hell of a lot else.

[quote]He just declared war on a city.

Those weekend shootings give the impression there's already a war going on in Chicago...

I’m just outside Chicago. Many here disassociate from it because you have to. But those of us who opt to dial in are following what’s happening every single hour here. The tension is thick. I have a pit in my stomach that this might get bad. I’m very very worried for my homies in the city (I used to work at the jail). Insiders say they’re targeting Humbolt Park, Little Village, and Boys Town, Translation: the Puerto Ricans, the Mexicans, the Gays. They know we all know, and they didn’t stick to the original plan, so now we just…wait. High anxiety.

Trump must know by now that the American people have turned against him.

This shit has to stop.

I read somewhere that his staff said they try to shield him from hearing too much criticism and watching the mass demonstrations. But how can they when he is addicted to watching TV especially the news shows. Yes, he watches Fox but he must be aware of the other stuff.

R217, even in his deteriorated state, he must have some instinctive sense of what is going on.

[quote]Trump must know by now that the American people have turned against him.

What world do you live in?

Obviously, you watch too much leftist propaganda via the MSM and reside in a woke bubble.

Rather, it's the Democrats who many Americans have begun to turn against, because Dems have become unpatriotic, race-baiting, soft-on-crime socialists.

In other words, un-American.

The fact is, Democrats are the ones looking bad in all of this.

Steve Brannon has entered the chat.

R219, 😂😂😂

You adorable delusional self-hating MAGGOT!

[quote]Obviously, you watch too much leftist propaganda via the MSM and reside in a woke bubble.

I always get a kick out of Dee Plorable's posts on DL.

[quote]Trump says federal troops are headed to Chicago: "We're Going In"

He said that to me once. It was over fast and I hardly noticed hie was in

Don't worry Chicago, you won't feel anything but shame if you let him in. But you won't forget the smell

Pro tip; Call him fatty tiny shroom and he will get off you in a flash!

R219=pure evil. Bad values, fake religion, anti-American Russian agent. Treason.

[Quote] Right. I'm pointing out how outrageous the media's treatment of Kamala Harris and the 2024 coverage in general was.

R175 Kamala has a different POV

They're there ...

Texans assembled in the outskirts of Chicago today. Damn you 45/47. Damn you to hell.

[Quote] This shit has to stop.

I agree

It's like the Detroit riots in 1967. The National Guard was responsible for most of the deaths.

With the upcoming No Kings Day protests - it needs to be tens of millions this time. 20% of Americans would be a good number.

Like R227, or Donald Trump, or any other MAGAt or Republican gives rat's ass that 5 (probably black people) were killed by gunfire over the weekend in Chicago.

R228, that's not entirely true. I was there. The cops were responsible for most of the shootings with the National Guard coming in second. But essentially you're right to say the Guard did some killing. As I recall more than 40 people were killed, mostly Black people. The cops were like an occupying army in Detroit. They had a long history of police brutality and death by cop. In fact, the Police Chief put together a unit, STRESS (Stop the Robberies and Enjoy Safe Streets.) Over an 18 month period they were responsible for 21 deaths. They had a "no knock" policy and kicked people's doors in. Bad news. The 1967 civil disturbance, which in the Black community is still referred to as "the rebellion," was precipitated by the police raid on a "blind pig" after hours joint on 12th street in Detroit. Over those 4-5 days we had the United States military come in with their tanks. I remember the 101st Airborne. The Governor called the National Guard. Mitt Romney's father George. But things got much worse very quickly and LBJ called out the military. Seeing the army tanks in the streets was a chilling terrifying thing for this kid. I studied up on the 1967 riot and wrote a paper on it. The National Guard came too. Afterwards, when it was safe for my parents to go back to work, downtown, there were National Guardsmen patrolling the business district downtown. I don't remember how long they stayed. It's interesting to look back on the 60'sandall the rioting in cities that took place. From aboutv1964 through 1968, I think. Cleveland, Watts, Harlem, Detroit, Newark, etc. LBJ appointed Otto Kerner the gov. of Illinois to chair a special commission to investigate the widespread civil disorders happening across the country. Many people blamed outside agitators for the rioting. But while that was certainly happening, the Kerner Commission was thorough and ultimately blamed the series of riots on White Racism. Very controversial at the time. All of it seemed to lay the groundwork for the ascent of Nixon/Agnew. The anti war demonstrations, massive demonstrations against the Vietnam War were also going on at the time. Looking back I don't blame LBJ for deciding not to run again.

[quote] I read somewhere that his staff said they try to shield him from hearing too much criticism and watching the mass demonstrations. But how can they when he is addicted to watching TV especially the news shows. Yes, he watches Fox but he must be aware of the other stuff.

Trump probably finds CNN or MSNBC clips via Truth Social and other apps were clips gets posted. A lot of MAGAs or right wing organizations put up tons of CNN or MSNBC clips on their social media pages or sites usually to slam anchors/hosts or Dems. Tons of clips of Kaitlan Collins CNN' show often end up on right-wing sites because the right-wingers get off whenever Kaitlan gets into spats with Karoline Leavitt, Ted Cruz and other Republicans. Or there are times they will frame Collins as a hero if she gets into debates with Democrats on her show or if asks them tough question, for a example a couple of weeks Ilhan Omar was on her show and questioned about things Omar said about Charlie Kirk. Collins was frustrated with Omar and the right wingers made her out to be a hero because of that and were praising her in articles and on YouTube videos.

JB Pritzker calls out Trump's mental impairment:

“This is a man who’s suffering dementia,” Pritzker said in a telephone interview with the Chicago Tribune. “This is a man who has something stuck in his head. He can’t get it out of his head. He doesn’t read. He doesn’t know anything that’s up to date. It’s just something in the recesses of his brain that is effectuating to have him call out these cities.

“And then, unfortunately, he has the power of the military, the power of the federal government to do his bidding, and that’s what he’s doing.”

Chicagoan here, and yeah, shit's getting dark here. Blackhawk helicopters were flying overhead all day yesterday and there's this super heavy tension in the air everywhere in the city. Brown people are terrified.

Pritzker is absolutely correct. Like I said @R227, Trump doesn't give a fuck if 5, 10, 50, 100 or 500 black/brown people are shot on the streets of Chicago. Nor does he have absolutely no interest in finding the reasons why 5, 10, 50, 100 or 500 black/brown people were shot on the streets of Chicago.

Trump is simply interested in projecting himself as some sort of comic book superhero/tough guy. His idiotic sheeple MAGAt followers will fall for that shit, but anyone with a functioning brain knows Trump is the biggest fucking pussy and coward on the face of the earth.

The goal of all these "send in the troops" exercises is to drive foreign visitors and resident immigrants out of the country and terrorize American citizens into submitting to the Project 2025 agenda.. The first part is working great and industries that rely on tourism and cheap immigrant labor are suffering. The terrorizing into submission part is going to be the tricky one.

[quote]Trump is simply interested in projecting himself as some sort of comic book superhero/tough guy.

But peaceful, r235. PEACEFUL!

r236 - the irony is that Chicago's summer 2025 hotel occupancy was the highest it's been in years.

This is Roger Stone Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller's "strategy." Trump says stupid shit like, "we oughta bomb New York!" and they make it a policy and do it. Or at least put it on the "to do" list.

I absolutely agree with Pritzker on this too.

[quote]Crime has been down in DC since he sent in the National Guard.

Are you freaking high? Armed soldiers are marching the streets, the city is like a police state and no one is out enjoying themselves living their lives and spending money!

The National Guard are NOT law enforcement, they're part-time soldiers you'd find in a military conflict! PLUS it is illegal to use them as domestic police! Are you listening to Joe Rogan again?