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The Sound of music kids

Ive loved this movie since before I can remember. Id hold my tape deck to the tv and record the songs. As a gay man, Charming Carr, liesel, was my first crush. My question is, Why didn't their carriers do better from this ginormous monster hit? I know the eldest boy, Nicholas Hammond was Spiderman in the 70s but that was 10 years later and hardly a gig given to him from the heat of TSOM. Angela Cartwright, Brigitta, continued her tv work and has a solid C.V. but not moviel stardom or teen idol fame. Elder gays, did they do major P.R. at the time with the kids? Were they in the fan mags, on TV? Were they like The Beatles, for 15 minutes? I'd love to know.

by Anonymousreply 114October 5, 2025 5:34 PM

Darleen Carr was the star of the Carrs.

by Anonymousreply 1September 2, 2025 11:53 AM

The Sound of Music is not Angela’s most famous role…

by Anonymousreply 2September 2, 2025 11:54 AM

Nicholas Hammond pops up quite a bit in Aussie TV and theater, and he’s married to a fairly well-known and respected actress (Robyn Nevin)

by Anonymousreply 3September 2, 2025 12:15 PM

Charmian Carr

by Anonymousreply 4September 2, 2025 12:15 PM

I meant to say

Charmian Carr is dead

by Anonymousreply 5September 2, 2025 12:17 PM

Heather Menzies (Louisa) had a consistent run in TV guest star roles in the 60s and 70s. She's in 2 70s B-movie creature feature classics: Ssssss and Piranha. And she snagged Robert Urich and got to ride that thick hog

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by Anonymousreply 6September 2, 2025 12:45 PM

Kym Karath and Nicholas Hammond both did episodes of The Brady Bunch. That pretty much speaks to the level of interest Hollywood had for the Sound of Music kids

by Anonymousreply 7September 2, 2025 12:51 PM

Angela Cartwright's most famous role after that was Penny in Lost In Space.

by Anonymousreply 8September 2, 2025 1:03 PM

I don't remember the kids having even 15 minutes of fame. We didn't care about them, they were props.

by Anonymousreply 9September 2, 2025 1:19 PM

R8 she was more famous before. What don’t you get?

by Anonymousreply 10September 2, 2025 1:51 PM

[quote] I don't remember the kids having even 15 minutes of fame.

More like 16 going on 17.

by Anonymousreply 11September 2, 2025 1:56 PM

WHET to Rawlf?

by Anonymousreply 12September 3, 2025 1:48 AM

Kym also appeared in a cool Season 1 episode of the 1960s TV series “Lost In Space” of which Angela was a castmember.

by Anonymousreply 13September 3, 2025 2:16 AM

Was it Angela or Veronica on Lost in Space?

by Anonymousreply 14September 3, 2025 2:20 AM

Isn’t Debbie Turner (Marta) a MAGAt?

by Anonymousreply 15September 3, 2025 2:27 AM

[quote] Were they like The Beatles, for 15 minutes? I'd love to know.

Yes, that's exactly what they were like.

Tens of thousands of screaming sex-crazed teenagers appeared at Shea Stadium to hear them reenact their little Glockenspiel routine for "So Long, Farewell."

Kym Karath (Gretl) was nearly ripped to pieces.

by Anonymousreply 16September 3, 2025 2:49 AM

[quote] Was it Angela or Veronica on Lost in Space?

Know your Cartwright sisters!:

Angela (aka "The Pretty One"): The Sound of Music, Lost in Space

Veronica (aka "The Great Screamer"): The Birds, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Alien

by Anonymousreply 17September 3, 2025 2:51 AM

[quote]WHET to Rawlf?

This.

He was also on an episode of Magnum PI.

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by Anonymousreply 18September 3, 2025 3:23 AM

Dan Truhitte's ass in that movie was a thing of wonder.

by Anonymousreply 19September 3, 2025 3:49 AM

If only they could have done a Von Trapp Variety Hour.

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by Anonymousreply 20September 3, 2025 3:59 AM

Hated the Cartwright girl. Who the fuck was she? Bulimic looking talentless littlle troll. Get lost you little cunt

by Anonymousreply 21September 3, 2025 4:15 AM

Angela Cartwright was a regular on 222 episodes of "Make Room for Daddy." She was far better known for that than for anything else.

by Anonymousreply 22September 3, 2025 4:27 AM

Kym Karath did a nude scene in "The Thrill of It All."

by Anonymousreply 23September 3, 2025 4:29 AM

No, none of them were teen idols in 1965. They were never on the cover of 16 Magazine or Tiger Beat.

by Anonymousreply 24September 3, 2025 4:46 AM

The ugly little Cartwright girl had dark circles under her eyes. Bulimic

by Anonymousreply 25September 3, 2025 4:53 AM

Charmian Carr was 21 when they filmed Sound of Music.

Once shooting was over the other six kids went back to their lives, but Charmian kept working for the firm. 20th Century Fox employed her as an ambassador for the film, flying her from country to country to promote the movie. Wherever the the movie opened, she was there to do interviews on radio and TV and in newspapers.

This kept her employed for about a year as movies opened gradually around the U.S. and around the world in those days.

by Anonymousreply 26September 3, 2025 5:09 AM

The Sound of Music Singalong is at the Hollywood Bowl in a few weeks.

by Anonymousreply 27September 3, 2025 5:37 AM

I would love to go to a SOM singalong!

Does “Cuntface” get screams and cheers?

by Anonymousreply 28September 3, 2025 6:45 AM

Nicholas Hammond was in "Once Upon A Time In The West" a few years ago. He still looks pretty good.

by Anonymousreply 29September 3, 2025 7:03 AM

[quote]she was more famous before. What don’t you get?

Actually the majority of her fans are by far from Lost in Space not Sound of Music.

by Anonymousreply 30September 3, 2025 9:03 AM

R17 it was a sarcastic question.

by Anonymousreply 31September 3, 2025 10:25 AM

R30 she’s most famous for Make Room for Daddy—

by Anonymousreply 32September 3, 2025 10:28 AM

Man, I HOPE Heather Menzies made good use of the cock Urich is showing off in that pic! Damn, I'd never seen the photo - he should have done a Playgirl "spread." Bets on how hairy his ass was?

by Anonymousreply 33September 3, 2025 11:03 AM

Maybe with old trolls R32, but statistically, the vast majority of her fans are from Lost in Space.

by Anonymousreply 34September 3, 2025 11:11 AM

Nicholas Hammond was in one of the most famous episodes of The Brady Bunch. He was Doug Simpson, the big man on campus. He might have beaten Greg to taking Marcia's virginity had that pesky football not hit her nose, forcing him to cancel his date with her.

by Anonymousreply 35September 3, 2025 11:20 AM

The sexual chemistry between him and Maureen McCormick was off the charts.

by Anonymousreply 36September 3, 2025 2:03 PM

I never realized that was Nicholas Hammond playing Doug Simpson in that episode!

Such a completely different character from Friedrich.

by Anonymousreply 37September 3, 2025 7:47 PM

^ Rose

by Anonymousreply 38September 3, 2025 7:49 PM

I certainly never thought of the kids as 'props'; i loved each one for their individuality. I love how they speak and how their little hearts are aching for Captain Von Trapp to just love them. When he sings Edeweiss, I particularly love Fredreichs face. And when Kurt tries to dance with Maria, and his Dad takes over. And Brigitta points out to Maria that shes blushing.. and the little looks they give each other; its all just perfect. I recall the great Joan Rivers saying she wud avoid this and Oz for a few years so she could come back to them with excitement. I do the same. Plus, if I catch either movie on TV and its already started, I won't watch...I have to watch from beginning to end. Its crazy to see how that Demon hunter kpop film has exploded; its not for me. To say its bad; but its certainly a mystery as to why its huge. And yes I did sit tru it so I can speak on the subject.

by Anonymousreply 39September 3, 2025 8:19 PM

That’s a MARY! if there ever was one…

by Anonymousreply 40September 3, 2025 9:01 PM

[quote]r33 = Bets on how hairy his ass was?

I don't know how hairy it was, but it was *big*. That was my only takeaway.

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by Anonymousreply 41September 3, 2025 9:12 PM

Menzies was excellent in Ssss and the Logan’s Run TV series. I give her a lot of credit for keeping that gynecological surname. Make Room for Daddy was a much bigger hit than Lost in Space, and sister Veronica was also a regular on Daniel Boone and won an Emmy for her role on The X-Files.

by Anonymousreply 42September 3, 2025 9:30 PM

[quote]sister Veronica was also a regular on Daniel Boone

Jemima

by Anonymousreply 43September 3, 2025 9:34 PM

She was Betty Grissom in The Right Stuff—a stellar performance.

by Anonymousreply 44September 4, 2025 2:04 AM

None of them came close to matching the long career of Eleanor Parker.

by Anonymousreply 45September 4, 2025 3:28 AM

OP, here's a personal video invitation from Angela Cartwright, Debbie Turner, and Kym Karath for fans to go to the theaters this month for the 60th anniversary of The Sound of Music, beginning Sep 12, for a limited time.

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by Anonymousreply 46September 7, 2025 7:19 AM

R46: I imagine those three will be at the Hollywood Bowl for this year's Singalong. They have appeared in various combinations (sometimes just one) in the past to say a few words, hand out prizes for the best costume. This photo with Heather & Charmain is from 2011.

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by Anonymousreply 47September 7, 2025 8:22 PM

I’m so jealous, singing along with thousands to TSOM would be akin to a religious experience.

by Anonymousreply 48September 8, 2025 3:21 PM

Whut?

by Anonymousreply 49September 8, 2025 3:38 PM

I've been to a few Singalongs at the Bowl, R48. Edelweiss definitely is! Goosebumps every time. (I was at this one, seated in the section in front of whomever shot the video).

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by Anonymousreply 50September 8, 2025 8:33 PM

You get goosed very easily I see.

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by Anonymousreply 51September 8, 2025 8:35 PM

Better being easily goosed than being a miserable cunt. Cute Geese!

by Anonymousreply 52September 9, 2025 2:11 AM

I always felt like I grew up with the Cartwright girls, and I follow Angela on Insta.

Unlike sister Veronica, she left show business, got married and had kids and ran a boutique in Hollywood for some time. She does a “Sound of Music” tour of Salzburg every year, amd posts pics from it on her Instagram account.

Sheseems like a nice and normal person, plump but with large, pretty eyes.

by Anonymousreply 53September 9, 2025 2:48 AM

Just a quick tidbit about the Cartwright sisters... they're British. Born in England, the family moved to the states when they were young. They're American citizens decades ago, so think of them as British-born Americans.

by Anonymousreply 54September 9, 2025 10:11 AM

Nice to see the restored, uncut version of Sound of Music on TCM tonight. All the racy bits cut out by ABC’s annual airings for the TCM curators’ to discuss.

by Anonymousreply 55October 2, 2025 2:23 AM

Friedrich (Nicholas Hammond ) make me tingle down there - even as a 7-year-old (the first time I saw TSOM)

by Anonymousreply 56October 2, 2025 3:45 AM

Angela, Debbie and Kim were at the Hollywood Bowl Singalong a few weeks ago.

by Anonymousreply 57October 2, 2025 3:52 AM

What did Rolf to do to you, R56??

by Anonymousreply 58October 2, 2025 3:52 AM

R58: he made me bend over and spread 'em!

by Anonymousreply 59October 2, 2025 4:14 AM

Angela seems like a lovely person but she was a terrible actress. She always had trouble keeping a straight face. But I follow her and Veronica on Instagram and they're very tight. Angie is still besties with Billy Mumy and paid a lovely tribute to Mama June on her birthday.

by Anonymousreply 60October 2, 2025 4:25 AM

R6. And now she's dead!

by Anonymousreply 61October 2, 2025 4:28 AM

[quote]R6 Heather Menzies (Louisa) had a consistent run in TV guest star roles in the 60s and 70s… And she snagged Robert Urich and got to ride that thick hog

Of course it’s the blonde one…

by Anonymousreply 62October 2, 2025 4:37 AM

Interesting bit of trivia: the voices of the Von Trapp children were "augmented by other performers" as they used to say on The Partridge Family. Oh, they all sang -but there were other kids added in to fill out the sound in the choral sections. Included in the vocal mix were Angela's sister, Veronica, and Charmian Carr's sister, Darleen.

After SOM, Angela Cartwright did Lost In Space, and guested on several TV shows like Room 222. Irwin Allen had her back for the awful Beyond the Poseidon Adventure, where she had little to do but look scared and cling to Mark Harmon. Lucky her. She pretty much gave up acting to pursue her interest in photography, and she has published several books on the subject. As someone pointed out above, she remains close friends with Bill Mumy and is a pretty normal person. She did do a guest spot on the Netflix reboot of Lost In Space, playing Dr. Smith's mother.

She was featured in the teen fan magazines in the late sixties and early seventies -she was always very beautiful - but that only led to modeling gigs, not movie roles.

It's been said here (many times) that Nicholas Hammond is gay and in a lavender marriage. I couldn't say for sure, but he was always a strikingly handsome man.

by Anonymousreply 63October 2, 2025 5:54 AM

[quote] All the racy bits cut out by ABC’s annual airings for the TCM curators’ to discuss.

They always cut the part where Fraulein Maria announces she's going to show her boobies. And Sister Margaretta laughs

by Anonymousreply 64October 2, 2025 6:36 AM

How about the kids from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory? Why weren’t they given articles in Tiger Beat?

by Anonymousreply 65October 2, 2025 11:06 AM

[quote]They always cut the part where Fraulein Maria announces she's going to show her boobies. And Sister Margaretta laughs

As long as they leave in, "What is it, you cuntface?"

by Anonymousreply 66October 2, 2025 1:00 PM

I first watched The Sound of Music when I was 3 or 4. I remember thinking that 5 -- the age of the youngest child -- was so much older than me.

As I went through childhood, I evaluated my current age in relation to the Sound of Music children.

by Anonymousreply 67October 2, 2025 1:13 PM

R56 - it's the lederhosen isn't it?

by Anonymousreply 68October 2, 2025 1:25 PM

Marta grew up to be a Trumper.

by Anonymousreply 69October 2, 2025 1:28 PM

Let's give Eleanor Parker some much deserved love as the Baroness. Gorgeous, hilarious and touching. At first she seems to want to marry the Captain because he would make a nice trophy husband but, in her final scene, it's clear that she really does love him.

by Anonymousreply 70October 2, 2025 2:24 PM

I saw a thumbnail on my YouTubeTV for TSOM and I thought it was for the movie, but the photo was not of Julie ... turns out it was for the BBC TSOM Live from a few years back. With DL fave Julian Ovenden as Georg.

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by Anonymousreply 71October 2, 2025 2:25 PM

Early exposer to Nazis has been powerless to prevent our current Nazi invasion.

by Anonymousreply 72October 2, 2025 2:43 PM

R71. That's a very somber production but I didn't hate it.

by Anonymousreply 73October 2, 2025 3:07 PM

[quote]Let's give Eleanor Parker some much deserved love as the Baroness. Gorgeous, hilarious and touching. At first she seems to want to marry the Captain because he would make a nice trophy husband but, in her final scene, it's clear that she really does love him.

I always clap when the Baroness finally shows up on screen -- an hour into the movie. She certainly knows how to be fashionably late.

by Anonymousreply 74October 2, 2025 6:29 PM

The Baroness has a bigger part in the stage version (and in that "Sound of Music" live production mentioned above.) She even gets to sing!

by Anonymousreply 75October 2, 2025 7:00 PM

Many of Parker’s promised scenes were cut. She was devastated and our much beloved Robert Wise wouldn't meet or speak with her.

by Anonymousreply 76October 2, 2025 7:01 PM

The role of the Baroness really is the best in the show. She has the best lines, and she has a couple of really powerful scenes and songs. Not to mention lots of dressing room time to relax and hang with the nuns... Also, she gets a huge round of applause at the curtain but the show doesn't hang on her. If the production is a dog, no one will blame the Baroness. It is a testament to the talents of Eleanor Parker that she managed to salvage so much of the role in the film.

by Anonymousreply 77October 2, 2025 7:11 PM

R76. Sorry to hear that but she made a meal out of what she was given. I think the character is much more likeable in the film. I've only seen the stage musical once with Honor Blackman but wasn't the Baroness pro Nazi?

by Anonymousreply 78October 2, 2025 7:49 PM

Why do the children pronounce "cuckoo" like "KUCK-koo" instead of "KOO-koo"?

Were they trying to tell their father they thought he was a cuck?

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by Anonymousreply 79October 2, 2025 8:44 PM

[quote]Why do the children pronounce "cuckoo" like "KUCK-koo" instead of "KOO-koo"?

Actually, they were singing "KUCK-oo"

by Anonymousreply 80October 2, 2025 9:02 PM

I saw that production with Honor Blackman in London, too! Petula Clark was Maria and Michael Jayston was the Captain. The children were obnoxious -but that was mostly the director's fault. Every one of their songs had an added reprise -milking the audience for every last clap in their bodies.

by Anonymousreply 81October 3, 2025 2:27 AM

I was curious about R76’s comment so I googled “Eleanor Parker scenes cut sound of music” and here is what AI shat out, verbatim:

[quote]While no major scenes with Eleanor Parker's character (the Baroness) were completely cut, the film originally included at least two songs intended for her that were removed, and her character's backstory and complexity were expanded by Parker and the screenwriter. The original songs, "The Shropshire Lad" and "The Great Hall," were removed, as were certain other musical numbers like the one sung by Max, "I Am 15 Going on 17".

by Anonymousreply 82October 3, 2025 3:11 AM

[quote]"I Am 15 Going on 17"

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 83October 3, 2025 12:53 PM

The movie is already long. Having additional scenes with the Baroness would have made it feel bloated.

by Anonymousreply 84October 3, 2025 1:02 PM

^They could've cut the wedding scene.

by Anonymousreply 85October 3, 2025 1:09 PM

I would have preferred seeing Eleanor Parker perform How Can Love Survive rather than The Lonely Goatherd. But I get that they needed another scene for children.

by Anonymousreply 86October 3, 2025 2:17 PM

I wish they had cut "I Must have Done Something Good" and used "How Can Love Survive," but the Baroness in the film is just that much different from the play that HCLS wouldn't work.

Ugh to I Must have Done Something Good - the movie screeches to a halt for it.

by Anonymousreply 87October 3, 2025 2:35 PM

I think it really works to have Max and the Baroness never sing. It keeps their world separate from that of the rest of the family.

by Anonymousreply 88October 3, 2025 3:27 PM

[quote]Ugh to I Must have Done Something Good - the movie screeches to a halt for it.

Not only that, it’s such a saccharine song. R&H never found the right song for Maria and the Captain. In the stage show it’s the drippy Ordinary Couple. It probably would have been better if they did a reprise of How Can Love Survive, maybe slowed down as a ballad with different lyrics.

There’s never a moment where they acknowledge their different personalities to each other: Maria with the traits the nuns sing about (flibbertigibbet, will of the wisp, clown) and Georg rich, aristocratic, ordered, and how they will fit together as a couple.

by Anonymousreply 89October 3, 2025 3:49 PM

Let’s talk about the kids that never have to work a day in their life due to the popularity of this film and its residuals.

Zosia Mamet whose mother is Lindsay Crouse whose father was Russell Crouse .

by Anonymousreply 90October 3, 2025 3:54 PM

They could easily have cut "I Have Confidence" and saved four minutes. I've always hated that song (which was written for the film). That would have made time for "How Can Love Survive?" or "No Way To Stop It" -both of which accomplish more character-wise.

by Anonymousreply 91October 3, 2025 6:07 PM

Does anyone else find it odd that Mother Abbess sings Climb Every Mountain in almost total darkness.

by Anonymousreply 92October 3, 2025 6:07 PM

[quote]They could easily have cut "I Have Confidence" and saved four minutes. I've always hated that song (which was written for the film).

It's one of my favorite songs in the whole film. Always perks me up and brightens my day to hear it.

by Anonymousreply 93October 3, 2025 6:16 PM

That was because she was lip-syncing to another singer, and she wasn't that good at it. By keeping her in shadows they could accomplish an arty look as well has masking the poor sync...

The shadows in "Something Good" were hiding that neither actor could keep a straight face -they were breaking out in giggles the whole time.

by Anonymousreply 94October 3, 2025 6:17 PM

Yet she got an Oscar nod in any case.

by Anonymousreply 95October 3, 2025 8:22 PM

I hated Something Good as a kid, as I'm sure most of us did, but grew to really like it as an adult.

by Anonymousreply 96October 4, 2025 5:27 AM

I love "Something Good," first of all for camp reasons if only because Julie Andrews sings about the fact that she "must have had a wicked childhood," which of course is impossible to imagine. But it's actually a beautiful song even though it slows the action down. And it's infinitely preferable to the song it replaced in the original Broadway show, "An Ordinary Couple," which is basically a dirge.

I do like very much the two songs the Baroness gets to sing with Max, "How Can Love Survive?" and "No Way to Stop It" (which they sing with Georg about the inevitability of the Anschluss), but I agree with the decision to have removed them both from the movie because they would have made it too long. It's also important for the film that the Baroness does NOT sing--stressing that what Maria offers the Captain and his children is the return of music to their lives.

by Anonymousreply 97October 4, 2025 5:38 AM

Nicholas Hammond always pinged to high heaven.

Heather Menzies did a Playboy pictorial, later died.

by Anonymousreply 98October 4, 2025 5:47 AM

Menzies in Playboy

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by Anonymousreply 99October 4, 2025 5:49 AM

That doesn't look like her.

by Anonymousreply 100October 4, 2025 2:25 PM

When Maria sings about her wicked childhood I always thought it meant she was abused and ran away to the convent at an early age which I think was the case with the real Maria.

by Anonymousreply 101October 4, 2025 2:40 PM

Fun fact: Oscar Hammerstein didn't write the lyrics for "I Have Confidence" or "Something Good." Presumably because he was dead at the time.

by Anonymousreply 102October 4, 2025 6:55 PM

No comments yet about “Edelweiss”? Sounds like an authentic Austrian folk song, so much so that many Austrians have assumed it was and over the years it has become a beloved anthem there.

The simplicty of it is lovely, it ‘s easy to sing and hum to and I always love the fact that the movie slows down enough to let Chris Plummer sing it and have a moment.

by Anonymousreply 103October 4, 2025 7:15 PM

Gotta call bullshit on that, R103. Or at least (hopefully) heavy sarcasm. Every Austrian i know absolutely hates The Sound of Music and resents anyone thinking "Edelweiss" is an Austrian folk song -let alone their national anthem. It is a lovely song, great in the context of the show, and deserving of its fame -but it ain't Austrian.

And while Christopher Plummer definitely had a moment, he wasn't actually singing, which is a pity, because there was nothing wrong with his real voice.

by Anonymousreply 104October 4, 2025 8:16 PM

[quote]Every Austrian i know absolutely hates The Sound of Music

All those God-damn tourists traipsing around Salzburg singing that fucking "Do, Re, Mi."

by Anonymousreply 105October 4, 2025 9:13 PM

There’s a display case at the Drama Bookshop in NYC about TSOM. In it there’s a sheet of paper with original “tentative routine of songs, mostly dummy titles”” by the creators. I guess “Why Buck the Tide?” became “No Way to Stop It.” I have a feeling if it became an actual song “Why Fuck the Bride?” would have been an inevitable spoof of it performed in piano bars in the Village.

by Anonymousreply 106October 4, 2025 9:37 PM

Sound of Music is not popular in Germany or Austria. Apparently it did not translate well into German.

But Salzbrg is happy to take in all the tourist dollars the movie gives them, even if the residents don't really understand what the fuss is all about.

by Anonymousreply 107October 4, 2025 11:08 PM

[quote] No comments yet about “Edelweiss”? Sounds like an authentic Austrian folk song, so much so that many Austrians have assumed it was and over the years it has become a beloved anthem there.

I think you mean a lot of dumb AMERICANS assumed it was the Austrian national anthem.

by Anonymousreply 108October 4, 2025 11:14 PM

For those who would like to here Christopher Plummer's real voice singing [italic] Edelweiss [/italic], the link to the video is below.

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by Anonymousreply 109October 5, 2025 1:50 AM

[quote]I think you mean a lot of dumb AMERICANS assumed it was the Austrian national anthem.

Including a Republican president.

by Anonymousreply 110October 5, 2025 3:20 AM

I can never watch it without thinking of the MadTV parody of alternative endings for it. Nicole Parker's imitation of Julie Andrews is quite decent (plus she does get good lines, like "Gretl, turn to metal!"), but Michael McDonald's imitation of Christopher Plummer is really brilliant.

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by Anonymousreply 111October 5, 2025 3:30 AM

I thought they blended Bill Lee’s voice with Christopher Plummer’s, so some lines are his real voice

by Anonymousreply 112October 5, 2025 4:20 AM

I know that's a common practice with dubbing, but I don't think it was used in Sound of Music.

by Anonymousreply 113October 5, 2025 4:41 AM

R100 But it is.

by Anonymousreply 114October 5, 2025 5:34 PM
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