RFK Jr. to Ban COVID-19 Vaccine ‘Within Months’

Well, Trump got Covid (at least) once... maybe the next time will be the charm.

Putin is rubbing his clit.

Stores in the Albertson’s chain (e.g., Shaw’s in the Northeast) that have pharmacies are allowing people to make appointments for the 24-25 Covid vaccine.

If he does this, screw him. I can see making the vaccines non-mandatory, which he's done already. They should be an open option for everyone - there is no evidence that they are harmful to the extent he states and much evidence that they are efficacious and save lives.

It's hardly the "deadliest vaccine ever made". Bollocks.

You want the updated, 2025-2026 one, r3.

Thanks, R5.

Oh well... I run down to Tijuana to pick up antibiotics from time to time. Guess I'll get the latest Covid jab when I'm down there.

And those who can't go there? What will they do? Get sick, of course. And some will die. But Trump!

The middle class should riot over this. This is pure nuts

The wealthy will all take quiet trips to Canada or Europe to get their shots

[quote] The middle class should riot over this.

The way they rioted over being slightly inconvenienced by being asked to wear masks? The middle class doesn't give a fuck about COVID and hasn't for years.

What I don't understand is why Big Pharma donors are willing to sit back and take this treatment.

R10, if they don't outright ban the vaccines and instead pull FDA approval, they'll still be produced, but insurance companies will stop covering them, forcing people to pay out of pocket, but pharmaceutical companies will still profit.

People need to get vaccinated as soon as the 2025-2026 shots are available, before they're banned or the FDA revokes authorization.

[Quote] The wealthy will all take quiet trips to Canada or Europe to get their shots.

Until other countries impose travel bans due to the unvaccinated hordes.

[quote]if they don't outright ban the vaccines and instead pull FDA approval, they'll still be produced, but insurance companies will stop covering them, forcing people to pay out of pocket, but pharmaceutical companies will still profit.

They're already underutilized. If insurers stop covering them, demand will fall further and profits and so will profits – to the point pharma will stop making them, at least for U.S. distribution.

They will still offer them, but you have to be over 65, or have a chronic illness that puts you at risk.

Now is the time to buy shares in horse dewormer and bleach companies, you know, those treatments that really work.

Devout Christian Chris Pratt will be so happy over this!

You believe that r14? It won't be that easy for anyone but the very wealthy.

Expext more seniors' day trip buses to Canada like they did in the past for affordable prescriptions.

Brown-skinned seniors will be detained on return and possibly sent to private concentration camps never to be seen again.

Residents of Florida will report odd-smelling smoke emanating from Alligator Alcatraz or whatever it's called.

"But we didn't know" - Germans after WWII

It killed the right people before, I say let it happen again. In the meantime, I will continue to get jabbed as many times as I can before this bullshit takes place.

This is more evidence of how the Trump administration is actively trying to kill off as much of the population as possible.

[quote]On Wednesday, more than 750 current and former staff members from the CDC, HHS and National Institutes of Health (NIH) accused Kennedy of spreading dangerous misinformation that fueled mistrust and contributed to the CDC HQ shooting, demanding by Sept. 2 that he stop, affirm CDC scientific integrity, and guarantee workforce safety.

I know I'd sure want people with access to Smallpox and other deadly pathogens to hear me demonizing their work in the press and believe I represent a direct threat to their safety and that of the public that they've devoted their careers to protecting.

Question for those in the know: does the CDC just handle infectious microbes, or do they also keep samples of debilitating parasites of the sort one might encounter in roadkill carcasses?

But he said in his confirmation hearing that he wouldn’t do this…

[quote]But he said in his confirmation hearing that he wouldn’t do this…

Yes, Susan Collins. And Brett Kavanaugh told you that Roe was "settled law."

They should, at minimum, allow healthcare professionals to get vaccines

Wouldn't kill enough people r23.

It’s notable that none of these morons ever discovers as a result of “doing their own research” that anaesthetics or antibiotics or pain medication cause long-term health problems.

Way before the prick “won” I always believed he wanted American's dead.

The prick doesn't like the prick.

The prick doesn't have one. It's a nubbin, a peanut. Small hands don't lie

GOD DAMN these fucking imbeciles

It’s all part of his boss’s Administration’s plan…raise revenue by forcing the peasants to have to pay Big Pharma big fees to get the shot out-of-pocket.

Can't Big Pharma all chip in a few million apiece and, you know, make a few of these troublemakers go bye-bye?

I’d read this article, but I have to go chainsaw the head off a whale corpse

Death cult. They're culling the herd. When AI replaces 99% of jobs they'll ramp things up considerably. Expect a new "vaccine" after the midterm "elections."

That'll be the real deadly one, but they won't tell you that.

Just like the cruelty, all of this is intentional, it's all part of their plan.

And we will never see the actual, unredacted Epstein files. And DL will still have 90 new anti-trans threads daily, through all of it.

RFK Jr is a conspiracy theorist fucking nut.

RFK[italic] IS [/italic]the conspiracy.

Halted

Americans should be able to access a Covid vaccine in Canada without much trouble. They's have to pay out of pocket, and it shouldn't have toncome to this, of course.

For people who can afford the trip r37

Yeah I don't think a working class person who lives in Tennessee is going to "access a Covid vaccine in Canada without much trouble."

Or anyone else more than 100 miles from the border, which is most of us. I have a job. One that I need. I can't just up and take a trip to Canada for a vaccine.

Again, they're culling the herd. They know rich white people like R37 will get vaccinated "without much trouble." They're planning on it. They"re targeting everyone else.

For now.

[quote]It’s all part of his boss’s Administration’s plan…raise revenue by forcing the peasants to have to pay Big Pharma big fees to get the shot out-of-pocket.

It's not just insurance coverage. The US currently is *not producing COVID vaccines*.

R39, but if they kill too many people labor costs will go up. That may lead to pushback from business on this.

Not if it's old retirees

There is no reason to keep getting the Covid vaccine. It's now a cold.

[quote] It killed the right people before, I say let it happen again

If God was giving out respiratory diseases to people as a punishment for sinning, then you would be at the free clinic all the time! ........And so would the rest of us!!

Said a young person

[quote]There is no reason to keep getting the Covid vaccine. It's now a cold.

Let me guess, Saint Olaf?

[quote] Americans should be able to access a Covid vaccine in Canada

You want us to travel to Canada?

Never has there been a more incompetent presidential administration. History will cast enormous shade.

Good luck being allowed back home

In more than 20 years on this site, I have never posted such a thing, but FUCK. YOU R18.

My beloved godbrother, aunt, and three first cousins died from COVID in 2020; my aunt, her daughter, and other first cousins (my paternal uncle's children) died HORRIBLE, agonizing deaths-- they most certainly were NOT "the right people." If it makes any difference to you (and you seem the type to whom it would), all five were kind, empathetic liberal Democrats.

I would say YOU and YOUR loved ones should have taken their places instead, but 1) I'm not that sort of person; and 2) their deaths were so gruesome I would never wish that on anyone--not even Donald Trump. It hurts even to remember those awful, awful days and how absolutely LIVID I was when we got the text that Cousin Tracey had died, angrier than I have ever been in my life. Angry and utterly impotent. My amazing cousin, a nurse, worked in the hospital where her baby sister died, and where her mother would die two weeks later. Who deserves that?

So each time I took my ancient Dad for his shots beginning in January 2021, later taking mine (he and I both chose Pfizer), then my sister who was our state health department's point person on COVID in the Emergency Management Response context, received the Moderna, and my Texas sister received hers, we felt our family safer than it had been in many, many months. And it felt GOOD.

This Administration is so very cruel and sociopathic. People are going to die needlessly, and they don't care.

You're wrong, R18. And mean.

I wonder if at some point our beloved Dolly will say anything about this publicly? She had an important, PERSONAL hand in the financing of the Moderna vaccine, and it meant so much to her.

In this move RFK Jr's as much as spitting on Dolly.

[quote]Americans should be able to access a Covid vaccine in Canada

I genuinely hope this was an attempt at humor. If not, assuming that everyone in the U.S. can afford to travel internationally -- even to Canada -- is just reeking with privilege. I am fortunate that I could afford to do that if that became the only option to get the updated vaccine, but there are millions who could not do that. Millions of vulnerable people with autoimmune diseases. Millions of poor, elderly people without the means and connections to travel.

I REALLY hope this ends up being sensationalist piss poor journalism from The Daily Beast. Was Trump not satisfied with the projection of millions of deaths in Africa due to his ending of PEPFAR? Now we've got to kill Americans, too?

Despicable.

[quote]Americans should be able to access a Covid vaccine in Canada.

Yes, nursing homes all over the country will just load up their elderly patients in buses and transport them across the border en masse. That should be no trouble at all.

Only to be detained for five weeks at the border while trying to reenter the country before ultimately getting disappeared to a Libyan gulag.

RFK Jr. names anti-vaxxer Retsef Levi to lead the CDC's COVID-19 immunization workgroup, which reviews the safety, effectiveness and immunology of vaccines.

Levi has said the COVID-19 vaccines can cause serious harm and death, especially among children, and called for their immediate withdrawal.

Gee, I wonder how he'll interpret the data?

That bastard (RFK) really is going to ban COVID vaccines, isn't he?

I would certainly hope the courts will stop any attempt to ban the COVID vaccine.

RJF Jr's. father and 2 uncles must surely be rolling over in their graves over what this maniac is doing.

I was around two anti-vaxxers last week. They still get a flu shot but say no on everything else. They were astonished I got the shingles vaccine. Yeah, I don’t want shingles.

Here’s the kick. One of them needs two knee replacements. He’s using any excuse or treatment he can to step around the surgery. None of them work. Acupuncture is nice but it won’t fix things. Same with red light therapy.

Anyway, the fear these people have is crushing. Scared of cities, scared of shots, scared of drag queens, scared of differing opinions. This administration feeds that fear in an effort to control them. Honestly I’d feel sorry for these people if they weren’t such assholes. And now I probably won’t get a Covid booster because of this shit. Fuck all of us.

Take RFK Jr’s Viagra away to see how he really feels about big pharma.

By the way, another consequence of covid infection:

People who have developed COVID — even a mild case of the disease — have stiffer arteries compared to people who never had COVID. These increases in arterial stiffening were seen more in women than men, and more in people with long COVID.

Scientists believe this arterial stiffening may cause early vascular aging — where the vascular system is older than a person’s biological age — of as much as five years.

Hi! We're Republicans! We're a death cult!

R50 🫂

USA, can I have your stuff?

R41 WAKE UP. They're pushing AI for a reason. It will replace most white collar jobs. Picture 90% unemployment. Do you think Elon and Peter Thiel are going to fund unemployment, food stamps and health care for 90% of the country? No, they're going to outlaw vaccines and a whole lot worse to "let nature take its course."

PAY ATTENTION. This isn't 1992 anymore. Nothing is normal and nothing ever will be again. They're bragging about building concentration camps in Florida and Louisiana and you're handwringing over "labor costs." Jesus fucking Christ, get a clue.

I agree with you, R63. As crazy as it sounds, I think they want to kill as many Americans as possible -- through disease, gutting of public health systems, rolling back of environmental standards, dismantling of workplace health and safety requirements, and so much more -- so there will be fewer of us around when AI makes work obsolete. (Which is sooner than most realize.)

Time to let Luigi out on bail.

They're destroying the universities, too. It's all part of the plan, to dumb down the population while cutting the "dead weight" aka the majority of us who don't check all the boxes of white, christian, heterosexual, and compatible with traditional gender-roles. Anyone who doesn't check all of the boxes or tries to challenge the new order is going to be targeted, marginalized, cut off from resources and eventually killed, either actively or passively.

The rest will be worker drones in their factories. They're bringing manufacturing back! And killing off the dregs so the middle class normies who conform to their standards become the new, docile, uneducated underclass. It's all part of their plan. And they're getting away with it right before our eyes.

Remember that when you see the new trans-hating threads appearing here hourly, or the constant fixation on true crime and crime generally, like public freakout videos, and the role social media plays in pushing certain narratives and images. None of that is accidental, either. We're all kept in a constant state of fear, paranoia and anger now, always blaming some shadowy group of "others" for why things are so fucked up these days, and it's all rigged that way for a reason, to make us blame other (powerless) people and distract us from the real villains who threaten our existence. It's not trans people or immigrants or black women, despite what you see and hear or (maybe) what you want to believe. It's the one percent of the one percent, and they're coming for us all.

If you don’t want to take the COVID shot; that’s fine. But don’t ban it for the rest of us!

Fuck off R50. Nobody here gives a shit about what happened to you and nobody here posts with you in mind. You wanna make this about you, go right ahead but the painful lesson you need to learn is we don’t care about you.

Eat shit and die, R50.

Best,

R18.

I find it humorous (in a tragic way) that one of the only positive things to come out of Dump I administration was the rapid development of the Covid vaccine. I cannot imagine where we would be if the vaccine did not come so quickly. And now they wish to even recall that!

I know someone who is an antivaxxer and while their logic is distorted...well, I guess that's your choice. But it makes me angry that not only do they not want the vax, they don't want anyone else to get it either.

If only the Kennedy curse would strike him.

My parents are Trumpers and their favorite pastime is vilifying the health care system and embracing quack medicine. Last year they went to some alternative medicine dentist and mom ended up with sepsis. It’s insane but I stopped caring and put them in the same category as a drug addict who refuses to get clean. The book The Death of Expertise by Tom Nichols dies a good job of helping to explain why so many Americans think they know better than doctors and scientists,

[quote]they're going to outlaw vaccines and a whole lot worse to "let nature take its course."

Case in point: the CDC has quietly scaled back a surveillance program for foodborne illness. The now monitor for just two pathogens – salmonella and E. coli. Prior to July, they have had also been tracking campylobacter, cyclospora, listeria, shigella, vibrio and Yersinia, some of which can lead to severe and life-threatening illnesses.

[quote]What I don't understand is why Big Pharma donors are willing to sit back and take this treatment.

They understand this is a bribe solicitation.

R39 is full of shit and trying to troll confusion and panic. Yes, covid vaccinations are halted if they don't have the current vaccine yet. Same goes for flu vaccines. It is updated each year. It's only available at certain times. The 2025-2026 Covid vaccine is expected to be available within a month (September 2025).

[quote]The 2025-2026 Covid vaccine is expected to be available within a month

Perhaps, perhaps not:

Can't somebody who does bad things when they're really mad do something about this?

I saw this yesterday, and also saw announcements that the new vaccines would be available shortly.

Keep your eyes and ears open, and check with your local pharmacy.

[quote] You want the updated, 2025-2026 one

If they're banning it, the updated version will probably never see the light of day.

I'm torn as to whether I should get another dose of the 24-25 one or roll the dice and wait.

"My name is Talky Tina! I'm a Republican, and I'm going to kill you!"

If people don't want to see me going around in public with an N-95 mask for the next year they had fucking well better let me get my fall Covid booster.

[quote]I find it humorous (in a tragic way) that one of the only positive things to come out of Dump I administration was the rapid development of the Covid vaccine. I cannot imagine where we would be if the vaccine did not come so quickly. And now they wish to even recall that!

Yes, this a 100 percent. I loathe Trump, but he 100% deserves credit for Operation Warp Speed. It's insane how easily movable he is. He could have received genuine praise and gratitude to stroke his massive ego for rallying government and industry to develop vaccines that LITERALLY saved millions of lives. But, there were so many anti-vaxxers in his base, he just flipped. I 100% suspect that if his admin bans the vaccine, he'll still secretly get it himself. Ugh.

[quote]If they're banning it, the updated version will probably never see the light of day. I'm torn as to whether I should get another dose of the 24-25 one or roll the dice and wait.

Oh, I hadn't thought of that. Thanks for mentioning it, R79. I'm going to ask my doctor about that at my regular check-in next week. It MAY be advisable if the new one gets banned.

Yes. Soon we will be back to bleach and shoving lamps up our butts.

Fox News host John Roberts is in the hospital with what he describes as "a severe case of malaria." Too bad he and his ilk don't believe in vaccines.

[quote]RFK Jr. to Ban COVID-19 Vaccine ‘Within Months’

Not to worry!

“If it didn’t work, no one would be interested in it,” said the nutcase who introduced the bill. “The results speak for themselves and everyone has a story about how they took ivermectin and they felt 90% better the next day.”

Well, the FDA has just approved updated Pfizer COVID shots for all seniors this fall ... but they narrowed its use for younger adults and children to those with at least one high-risk health condition, such as asthma or obesity.

"This year's updated vaccines target a newer version of the continuously evolving virus and are set to begin shipping immediately. But it could be days or weeks before many Americans know if they’ll be able to get one, with access dependent on various decisions by federal health advisers, private health insurers, pharmacies and state authorities."

[quote]They're destroying the universities, too. It's all part of the plan, to dumb down the population

Universities were doing that on their own.

[quote]U.S. regulators approved updated COVID-19 shots Wednesday but limited their use for many Americans — and removed one of the two vaccines available for young children.

[quote]The new shots from Pfizer, Moderna and Novavax are approved for all seniors. But the Food and Drug Administration narrowed their use for younger adults and children to those with at least one high-risk health condition, such as asthma or obesity. That presents new barriers to access for millions of Americans who would have to prove their risk — and millions more who may want to get vaccinated and suddenly no longer qualify.

[quote]Additionally, Pfizer’s vaccine will no longer be available for any child under 5, because the FDA said it was revoking the shot’s emergency authorization for that age group.

[quote]Parents will still be able to seek out shots from rival drugmaker Moderna, the other maker of mRNA vaccines, which has full FDA approval for children as young as 6 months. But the company’s Spikevax vaccine is only approved for children with at least one serious health problem.

[quote] But the Food and Drug Administration narrowed their use for younger adults and children to those with at least one high-risk health condition, such as asthma or obesity.

Can't you just tell the pharmacist that you have asthma and get the shot? How would they know either way? Insurance may not pay for it if you don't have asthma, but you could still pay out-of pocket.

[quote]Can't you just tell the pharmacist that you have asthma and get the shot? How would they know either way? Insurance may not pay for it if you don't have asthma, but you could still pay out-of pocket.

Yes you can, and if you want the vaccine just do this.

CVS' scheduling system just asks you if you have one of these conditions and that's it. There is no verification. I assume other pharmacies are the same.

[quote]There is no reason to keep getting the Covid vaccine. It's now a cold.

What on earth are you talking about? For elderly people and some other vulnerable categories, a cold is not just a cold. There are reasons why people need to take COVID vaccines, just as there are reasons why flu shots are really important to certain populations even though most of us don't need them. Are you a medical doctor? Why did you feel the need to post what you did?

One of the conditions is “physical inactivity.”

I’m good to go

The “new” CDC director already getting the boot.

[quote]They're destroying the universities, too. It's all part of the plan, to dumb down the population

A plan that has worked spectacularly well, as the 2024 election proved conclusively.

Jesus what is that about r94? She was just confirmed, was a Trump pick. Is she not crazy or MAGA enough I guess?

Who will they next choose as Director: Foghorn Leghorn? I mean a cartoon character might do just as much as anyone else they choose.

Likely the CDC will be slowly phased out in the coming months.

Ditto the Surgeon General.

R91 thanks for the public service. You’ve inspired me to get my shingles and pneumonia vaccines before 🧠 🪱 cancels them.

But what are the "underlying conditions"?

"Today's marketing authorizations cover the Moderna vaccine for people ages 6 months and older, Pfizer for people ages 5 and older, and Novavax for people ages 12 and older. "

"For adults, federal officials still recommend the vaccine for seniors, with more limited use to those younger than 65 with underlying health conditions, with the caveat for shared decision making based on doctors' advice."

I’m sure my doctor isn’t an idiot thank goodness.

Tell them you're a former smoker. You smoked for years.

Nobody can possibly confirm that if you didn't.

The pharmacy doesn't fucking care.

[quote]Jesus what is that about [R94]? She was just confirmed, was a Trump pick. Is she not crazy or MAGA enough I guess?

She objected to Brain Worm's restructuring of the vaccine review process -- namely, putting a noted anti-vaxxer in charge.

NBC NEWS: "At least four other officials also submitted their resignations on Wednesday in a massive shakeup at the agency: Dr. Debra Houry, the CDC’s chief medical officer; Dr. Demetre Daskalakis, director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases; Dr. Daniel Jernigan, the director of the National Center for Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases; and Dr. Jennifer Layden, director of the Office of Public Health Data, Surveillance and Technology."

Dr. Daskalakis is family.

Maybe they can set up an underground CDC like SACHRP has set up an independent human subject research advisory board after being disbanded.

On a side note, I hope that cunt Cheryl Hines never acts again.

Interestingly, R103, I read this morning that the New England states were in discussion of developing their own version of the CDC.

[quote]"This year's updated vaccines target a newer version of the continuously evolving virus and are set to begin shipping immediately. But it could be days or weeks before many Americans know if they’ll be able to get one, with access dependent on various decisions by federal health advisers, private health insurers, pharmacies and state authorities."

I've already messaged my primary care doc to inquire if he would prescribe it should it be limited only to those over 65.|

Otherwise, I'll get it in Europe when I vacation later this year.

I had two friends who died of COVID before the vaccine was available. It's a miracle shot and it's infuriating that Brainworms is standing in people's way.

In years past there has been no verification of your condition required. Except (I think... if I'm recalling correctly...) when the very first vaccine came out. I'm a type 1 diabetic, so I've always been in the priority class. As I recall, I was in wave 2 or 3 after the most vulnerable (seniors and those with chronic conditions like cancer and HIV.) But, at least in the past 2-3 years, you haven't even had to have a doctor's note or any documentation proving your condition. I suppose that might change now. I've read out of pocket estimates being $140. That might seem like nothing to those of us in the middle class, but if they require documentation to get insurance-covered access, some poor people will get sick and, yes, die because of this. All that said, I'm relieved the outright ban wasn't a reality.

I'm starting to wonder if (a). Daily Beast really fucked up on their reporting, (2). They DID not fuck up and this was RFK's way of floating a trial balloon... seeing what the reaction would be if he were to consider an outright ban.

Sigh.

[quote] Interestingly, [R103], I read this morning that the New England states were in discussion of developing their own version of the CDC.

Atlanta is not going to like that. It has been a point of pride for Georgia since its inception. To hear on the news "according to the CDC in Atlanta," has been a favorite phrase, started by Ted Turner and CNN during the 80s. Very unfair, but maybe it makes a few red Georgians anti-Trump.

If the federal government was functional and medically sound policy was being promoted, then the discussion among the New England States would not be happening.

[quote]I've already messaged my primary care doc to inquire if he would prescribe it should it be limited only to those over 65.

So did I, R106. I was surprised to get a reply after 9 PM tonight saying I'm approved.

[quote]I'm starting to wonder if (a). Daily Beast really fucked up on their reporting, (2). They DID not fuck up and this was RFK's way of floating a trial balloon... seeing what the reaction would be if he were to consider an outright ban.

I fear it's a trial, R107. Read the replies to Kennedy's Twitter post, crazy anti-vaxxers want all vaccines banned, so no one has the option to get them. That includes school students, medical professionals, pre-surgery, etc.

I only saw the story while passing a newspaper to get my morning coffee. The collective group was not specific to New England but more the Northeast. The States included the New England states except New Hampshire as well as New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania.

One of the conditions to get the updated Covid will be that you’re in contact with someone who is high risk, like an elderly parent.

That’s an easy one to check off

I wish somebody would “ban” this homicidal mental midget. Give me my goddamned vaccines. And butt the hell out of my health decisions. Republicans can all go to hell.

Republicans are pure evil. Not a one deserves freedom or life.

I’m concerned.

[quote]Republicans can all go to hell.

If hell exists, it will be predominantly Republican.

You're being primaried R115.

Wow R111, good for them. I hope the recent CDC defectors join them and the insurance companies announce plans to cover costs for vaccines based on their recommendations.

They're now saying the new virus just approved will be available to those over 65 and those under 65 with underlying conditions such as asthma, etc.

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Eligibility for updated vaccines

Ages 65 and older: All adults in this group can receive the updated COVID-19 vaccine.

Ages 5 to 64 with a qualifying medical condition: The updated Pfizer shot is approved for those with at least one high-risk health condition.

Ages 6 months and older with a qualifying medical condition: The updated Moderna shot is approved for this group.

Ages 12 and older with a qualifying medical condition: The Novavax protein-based vaccine is approved for this group.

Young children (under 5): The FDA has withdrawn the emergency use authorization for the Pfizer vaccine in children under 5, making the Moderna vaccine the only option for eligible young children with high-risk conditions.

What this means for people under 65

Healthy adults (under 65): These individuals are no longer eligible for the updated COVID-19 vaccines under the FDA’s new framework.

Getting a shot "off-label": The practice of "off-label" prescribing is legal and could allow a doctor to write a prescription for the vaccine. However, this may be difficult as some doctors may be hesitant due to liability concerns, and many pharmacists cannot administer off-label vaccines due to state-specific regulations.

Insurance coverage: While some insurance companies may still cover the shots, people who get an off-label prescription may have to pay out-of-pocket, potentially costing over $150.

Different guidance from health experts: Some medical organizations and experts disagree with the FDA's new framework. The Infectious Diseases Society of America (IDSA) is urging doctors to continue recommending vaccines based on medical science, while the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) recommends vaccination for all children ages 6 months to 2 years due to the heightened risk of severe illness in that age group.

The current situation

The FDA's decision, announced by Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., represents a significant policy shift away from the widespread vaccination of the general population. The changes have been criticized by many public health experts, who fear the limitations will lead to lower vaccine uptake and increase risk for many Americans. The CDC’s vaccine advisory panel, recently reconstituted by Kennedy, is expected to issue its recommendations in September, which could further influence access.

^^Sorry, I hadn't read through this thread to see that all that info I posted has already been posted.

Suffice it to say, there will be ways for anyone who wants it to get the vaccine.

My CVS started scheduling the new Covid shots today. Fist appt was a week out

I will be getting the latest vaccine. I don’t give a single shit what non doctor road kill eating tanning bed smoker RFK fuckhead thinks about anything, certainly not vaccine science. He’s a dangerous demagogue who should be tossed into a rehab facility and left there to rot.

Thanks, R121. Just tried to schedule on the CVS site and it said "based upon what you've told us, you're not eligible to receive the Covid-19 vaccine. Please see your primary care physician for more help."

Weird message because it didn't ask me anything about health conditions. I'm not a senior, but I have an autoimmune disease that qualifies me.

Did you book online or in person? I'll swing by this week to see what they say in person.

R121, vaccines AND fisting? No wonder we love CVS.

At this point I wouldn't put it past this cabal to put something nefarious in the shots to give their antivaxer cohorts a much needed win. I'll still get the shit tho

How this man who has no background at all in medicine or science can be allowed to make such ignorant decisions is appalling.

This stupid fucking country has a real problem when it comes to listening to people who have the necessary education, training and skills required to be an actual authority on any given subject.

I made my vax appt AND my fisting appt both online. But I think my CVS profile has my senior status listed, so I got no pushback.

Just like your prolapse R127, no pushback.

FYI for Dr. Daskalakis’ statement.

Eugenics

There are so few people getting the booster shot as it is, I imagine they're not enforcing the restrictions very strictly.

Can't get my boyfriend to get a booster shot if his fucking life depended on it.

Eloquent resignation letter at r129. So sad what is happening at the CDC and NIH.

Someone sent me the following meme today: "Our best hope is that Trump is taking medical advice from Robert Kennedy Jr."

Literally zero medical basis for this. All conspiracy theory and "gut feeling" bullshit. Yet the magat cult has given this one man the power to do shit like this and no one can stop him.

Perhaps unlikely, but my dream for RFK Jr. is for him to die of Smallpox.

Worse than Fascism

Too stupid to be fascism

Even anarchism seems preferable

Unless I've misread, I don't think this is a booster shot, R130. Like last year's vaccine, it's a NEW Covid-19 vaccine shot. I think boosters are a thing of the past with Covid now, but someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I could be wrong but I think the new vaccine each year is considered a booster. Like flu vaccines, providing protection against new strain(s).

Dr Kennedy is now diagnosing “mitochondrial challenges” in children that he passes by in airports.

Dr. Kennedy is hoping for a Nobel Prize in Medicine this year. Maybe he and Trump will each have one!

And maybe pigs will fly?

R138, so he's staring at children in airports? Yeah, that's totally normal.

Thank god I have asthma!

There's a lot to unpack with RFK's comments, but it stood out to me that he framed his observations around seeing "kids in airports." First, it shows how out of touch and tone deaf he is. He thinks flying around the world constantly is a relatable thing, that all of us spend regular time in airports. There's a recession on and many people work from home or work dead end gig jobs, and he's prattling on about his life spent in airports so much that her formulates new conspiracy theories while there.

You also have to assume that he thinks "kids in airports" are an accurate sampling of kids generally, when they likely trend much wealthier than the national median and probably hit other outliers, too. For example, I would venture "kids in airports" have at least a slightly a higher percentage of sick and disabled kids who are flying for medical care, so any conclusions about childhood health drawn from that sample would be flawed.

Then there's the common sense assumption that "kids in airports" are generally not at their best, likely sleep deprived and irritable, two factors that would definitely impact their appearance in a negative way, but wouldn't obviously be indicators of overall health. He probably sees a kid with sleepy eyes and red blotchy skin with tear soaked eyes having a non-verbal meltdown and thinks it's vaccine-induced autism, when it's just your typical 4 year-old on a plane.

The man is just an imbecile.

[quote]Thank god I have asthma!

Sucks to your ass-mar.

Good assesment r143. RFK Jr. is truly an imbecile.

[quote] Insurance coverage: While some insurance companies may still cover the shots, people who get an off-label prescription may have to pay out-of-pocket, potentially costing over $150.

This right here kind of says it - those who truly want the shot for themselves, their children, etc....will have to pay out-of-pocket if they really want it. So once again, it's all for-profit (more so than it was). It's all a money-making grift with this administration - Everything for a price. Only the rich survive.

On the flip-side, it's all part of a plan to 'cull the herd' or essentially Eugenics...slowly but surely kill off all the poor, those with pre-existing conditions, minorities, etc...only the white fascist dudebro strong survive...and, of course, the super rich.

[quote]At this point I wouldn't put it past this cabal to put something nefarious in the shots to give their antivaxer cohorts a much needed win.

Well shit. I get my booster every year but this right here gives me pause.

I don't put anything past these evil fuckers.

They don’t manufacture the medications. That’s a bizarre concern.

R137 - you're misusing the term "booster", but, in this age of MAHA anti-science, your minor misphrasing is hardly a big issue.

The 2025-26 vaccine is considered an "Updated Vaccine", a new formula, designed for the most currently identified variants of Covid.

Prior to 2024, when we got "Boosters", those were, in most cases, an extra dose of the most current vaccine, not a new, updated vaccine.

That's the primary difference in terminology.

All fascistt political theater. That idiot will have had whatever shot he bans.

Republican Erick Erickson has his face eaten by leopards:

Just checked on Walgreens site to schedule my annual flu/COVID shot and it says I need a prescription for the COVID vaccination now.

It varies state to state. If you are traveling or live near other states, you may have different options.

All you have to do is look at the death and case statistics before and after the vaccine rollout in 2021.

Where's the media with follow-up stories to all the loons saying that the vaccine will kill millions and make them deformed, blah, blah, blah?

It's been 4 years and nothing happened. Yes - some people have long COVID (but that's a COVID issue and not a vaccine issue) and a small number had issues with the vaccine, as with any vaccine.

Media is silent as usual. They could easily prove these fuckers wrong - but no - they just allow them to spew their bullshit for a time, convince others and let them off the hook when their doomsday scenarios never materialize.

Remember all the babies who were going to be born with birth defects the anti-vaxxers were hysterical about? It never happened.

During Covid my response to the moron anti-vaxxers was always this: "I'd rather have a vaccine than be in an ICU on a ventilator."

This is insanity.

I read that you now need a prescription from your doctor to get the Covid vaccine. This may be just for people under age 65.

Does anyone know how long the COVID shot lasts? Is there a new one like the flu each year?

I had COVID in early 2022 after two COVID shots in 2021 and I've had additional shots each year. So I think I've had like 5 in total over the years? Do I have enough anti-bodies or because it constantly mutates you have to get a new shot each year?

I know it's probably a dumb question.

R159, definitely not a dumb question. Much like the flu vaccine is modified annually, the Covid vaccine has been modified to address the current stains of the virus.

[quote] [R137] - you're misusing the term "booster", but, in this age of MAHA anti-science, your minor misphrasing is hardly a big issue.

My bad. Didn't know that difference.

r160 is correct. r159 that is not a dumb question at all, it is very sensible.

Protection from a COVID vaccine wanes after a depressingly short amount of time, but it's the only tool we have (besides masking!) One of the worst outcomes of our current predicament is that any research into better, more efficacious vaccines or treatments will be starved of funding or denied outright.

[quote]One of the worst outcomes of our current predicament is that any research into better, more efficacious vaccines or treatments will be starved of funding or denied outright.

On the bright side, this research will continue in other countries that do not have ignorant morons in charge of their government.

The only country close to investing in scientific research at the scale the US does is communist China.

None of this qualifies as making America great - just falling further behind.

R164 & R165

Right. And China could develop a fucking over-the-counter COVID preventative, and Trump , RFK Jr, and the Deplorable Chorus would screech "WE DON'T WANT NO CHINA PILL!!"

R43 you are an idiot, Covid is not just a cold. I had Covid in February and I truly thought I could die without the antiviral. I've never been so sick. My head ached for days, even my teeth hurt. I coughed hard for almost a month, suffered major hair loss, brain fog and fatigue that lasted for approximately three months. Every joint and muscle ached for over two weeks. I don't have any preconditions. I'm not overweight, a smoker etc. The antiviral prescription was $1500, at the time the government had excess antiviral pills so the pharmacist was able to sign me up for a free script. It's been seven months and I still tire easily. Ever had a cold that affects you that way? The doctor told me the antiviral is to stop covid from damaging your lungs and heart, do colds do that?

Omg on that article in The NY Times.

It is wild to me that a covid vaccine is going to be illegal in many states of the country (and the states it IS legal in, extremely hard to get)

What’s awful is the people who voted for this, wanted it to go this way, so they don’t care.

The people who DIDN’T vote for this, do care and are being punished

China can use access to lifesaving vaccines as political leverage and own the world.

If Trump, Doge and Bobby brain work let them.

[quote]One of the worst outcomes of our current predicament is that any research into better, more efficacious vaccines or treatments will be starved of funding or denied outright.

I imagine funding has dried up for this:

You tell 'em, Chuck!

Philly area folks: you can schedule at CVS locations in New Jersey starting September 5.

CVS says it won't provide the shots in 16 states, regardless of if a person meets the criteria for the vaccination.

Residents of Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Nevada, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Utah, Virginia and West Virginia, and the District of Columbia will have to find another source.

NYT: On Friday, CVS issued an update: It could administer vaccines in 13 of the 16 states, and in the District of Columbia, to people who had obtained a prescription from a doctor or other medical provider. (As of Friday morning, its online scheduling tool still did not allow anybody to book an appointment in those places,) In Massachusetts, Nevada and New Mexico, CVS still cannot offer the shots at all.

Walgreens did not respond to requests for information. But when a New York Times reporter tried to schedule vaccine appointments in all 50 states, the Walgreens website said patients would need a prescription in 16 of them. Though there is some overlap, it’s not the same set of 16 as CVS, underscoring the level of confusion.

If you can't get the vaccination in your own state but live near a state that does, will you be able to get it in that state instead, does anyone know?

[quote]If you can't get the vaccination in your own state but live near a state that does, will you be able to get it in that state instead, does anyone know?

NYC resident, just booked a CVS appointment in Jersey City without trouble.

Also, if you are under 65, just say you were a smoker so that you can qualify as high risk.

Why can't they offer it in NY or even Massachusetts? Those are pretty blue states

My understanding is because the laws in those states say that they follow the CDC’s guidance to the letter.

Thanks, R177.

R179 - read the articles folks have posted in the past 20 or so replies. It explains what R180 summarized in more detail. And the CDC firings are having an impact on how soon this will be resolved in those states. Thank goodness, as the updated NYT article stated, CVS has now said they WILL provide the vaccine in 13 of the 16 states in question if the patient has a prescription from their doctor. I'm in one of those 13 states, so I'll be asking my doctor for a prescription!

More than 1000 HHS workers sign a letter asking for RFK Jr's resignation

LA Times:

A COVID wave is washing over California, with the state seeing continued increases in the number of newly confirmed cases and hospitalizations as some officials urged the public to take greater precautions.

The extent of the recent increases has prompted some county-level health officials to recommend that residents once again consider wearing masks in indoor public settings, at least until transmission has declined.

For the week that ended Aug. 23, there were 3.62 hospital admissions for COVID for every 100,000 residents; up from a comparable rate of 1.9 four weeks earlier. The most recent rate is also higher than during the peak seen during the winter, which maxed out at 2.61 admissions for every 100,000 residents.

Rhonda DeSantis to RJK Jr: Hold my beer.

"Florida is set to end all state vaccine mandates, state Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo announced at a news conference Wednesday.

For decades, the state has required numerous vaccines for kids attending school, including shots that protect against Measles-mumps-rubella, polio, chickenpox and Hepatitis B.

But Ladapo on Wednesday compared these mandates to “slavery,” and promised that they all will soon end."

Why are they so opposed to vaccines?

Eugenics

He's such a twat. Banning vaccines to make it seem like he's taking decisive action. He's effectively enforcing his views about vaccines on all of the US.

If people want to take the covid vaccine, what's it to him? So much for bodily autonomy.

Because they're trying to kill anyone who isn't them, R189.

Pay attention. Nothing is normal.

I think it’s just deep anger and denial. I recently met a gay undertaker from rural area who said that many people wouldn’t let Covid be listed as their relatives’ cause of death, even though it was.

What does that have to do with vaccines being banned by the federal government, R190?

R191 I'm not R190 but I think the point he or she was making is that many deny covid exists, hence why they think covid vaccines are pointless and potentially dangerous.

They're dumb fucks in short.

[quote]They're dumb fucks in short.

Indeed:

Are the new vaccines even available yet? I thought they required one last level of federal approval—from the board of experts whom RFK Jr fired.

Yes, you can get the new vaccine now.

R194: rolling out this week. Availability is good to terrible, depending on what state you're in. (16 states are requiring prescriptions to get vaccinated.)

I think novovax is coming out a little later than Moderna and Pfizer.

I have an appointment for the new flu shot and the new Covid shot this Friday.

floidah is a diseased cesspool

Thanks, Josh!

"At the urging of Gov. Josh Shapiro, the State Board of Pharmacy, which provides regulatory oversight to pharmacies, voted to pre-empt federal vaccine recommendations and instead follow the guidance of several major medical organizations.

The approval from the state board means that Pennsylvania pharmacists no longer have to wait for or follow guidelines from the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, a branch of the Centers for Disease Control that sets national standards on vaccines."

R200, does that mean anyone can get a vaccine?

So fucking glad I live in a blue state.

Governor Polis & CDPHE Take Swift Action to Ensure Easy Access to COVID-19 Vaccines for Coloradans This Fall

DENVER — Governor Jared Polis has directed the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment (CDPHE) and other state agencies to act quickly to ensure that all Coloradans have access to safe and effective updated COVID-19 vaccines. In furtherance of that goal, CDPHE Executive Director Jill Hunsaker Ryan has issued Public Health Order 25-01: Access to COVID-19 Vaccines, and Chief Medical Officer Dr. Ned Calonge has issued a standing order to allow pharmacists to provide COVID-19 vaccines without individual prescriptions. The standing order will take effect on Friday, September 5, 2025.

[quote]If people want to take the covid vaccine, what's it to him?

Because he's a mental case who was appointed by another mental case. And Congress was fine with it.

[quote] does that mean anyone can get a vaccine?

That's still murky. This Philadelphia Inquirer article has the best explanation I've seen so far.

"Wednesday’s move should allow Pennsylvania pharmacists to begin administering the vaccine to some patients in a newly complicated regulatory environment around vaccines. The Pennsylvania Board of Pharmacy approved the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG), the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), and the American Academy of Family Physicians (AAFP) as “competent authorities” for vaccine recommendations.

The FDA was also approved as a “competent authority” specifically for COVID-19 vaccine recommendations.

Recommendations for COVID vaccines differ between the professional organizations and the federal agencies. For example, healthy children are recommended to receive the updated vaccines in some of the guidance from the leading medical societies, but are not included in the FDA’s more restrictive licensing. A source with knowledge of the board’s decision said that pharmacists can now choose which agency or organization’s recommendations they wish to follow."

R204 that actually seems like a worse shitshow because then you are at the mercy of the pharmacist and whatever politics they have.

There are large patches of deep red in Pennsylvania, so you would have pharmacists in Philadelphia giving vaccines to people that other people in the same state can’t get because their pharmacists in their town believe RFK

More RFK dirty dealings:

Kennedy wants to “Make America Healthy Again” — but doesn’t want you to see a report that could do just that.

RFK Jr. and the White House buried a major study on alcohol and cancer.

"Most Americans still don’t know that alcohol can cause cancer — and the alcohol industry is working hard to make sure it stays that way..

For the past three years, the industry, aided by its allies in Congress and later the Trump administration, has sought to discredit and eventually bury a major analysis that offers new evidence of the link between drinking alcohol and getting sick and dying from various causes, including cancer."

RJK testifying before the Senate this morning is panting like he's just run a marathon.

He looks and sounds like death warmed over. But thinks he knows it all when it comes to public health.

I love the Thelma Johnson twitter account

He’s getting flustered and angry when asked about the number of American deaths from COVID. He basically spit out a word salad. Warner responded to his answer with “how can you be so ignorant?”

RFK Jr is unbearable and it's difficult to listen to him but I'm watching.

MAGAts on social media are outraged by the disrespect shown to this cretin by the Senators.

Well, a number of Republican senators are showing "disrespect," too.

Elizabeth Warren taking him to the woodshed.

Warren had him on the ropes for sure.

Republican Thom Tillis being pretty hard on him, too, albeit more subtly.

Now would be a good time to take this roadkill out and dump his body on the National Mall.

He told MN Senator Tina Smith that she was “making stuff up” when she asked about his statement after the school shooting last week.

I should've pushed Ethel down the stairs when she was carrying him. Dammit. Regrets, what can you do?

He's such a bully and a pill at r219. Of course he really takes off on her, and twists what she's saying, probably because she's a woman. He's really bought into the entire Trump attitude in regards to that. Not that the old-school Kennedys were much better.

The Dems don't help themselves when confronting these people (like RFK Jr), by trying to talk sense or arguing with them. It just doesn't work, it's like an endless loop of insanity, they end up sounding more than shrill and school-marmish. I wish one of these days that one of them would simply tell him to shut the F up, that he's a stupid liar hellbent on twisting anything he's ever said to suit any given moment or purpose. State out the date of the Fox News report (or whatever clip), then just yield their time.

I shouldn't have carried that one to term

By the looks of him, you got partway through the abortion.

I gave Ethel the hanger and showed her how to use it. It's not my fault she's a stupid drunk.

Well, the good news is that the "Never Vaxxed" MAGA crowd will still be at a higher risk and hopefully they will be the first to die and die soon.

Erik Erikson's cancer-riddled wife must by law be put at the end of the line for getting the new Covid shot, or banned entirely. She's gonna die of cancer anyway, why waste it?

Like I said, we're all going to die anyway!

We were driving to our Airbnb (I know, I know) today when I put the hearing on for a minute. My wife flipped out because she thought something was seriously wrong with the dog. It was inconceivable to her that that horrible gasping heavy breathing sound was RFK jr’s breathing and not the dog dying.

Hunny RFK, Jr is gonna get banned before the vaccine is banned. They ate his ass alive at the Senate hearings. He was SO pissed off!!! It was beautiful. ELizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, etc.

They showed him for the moron he is. This man has no business whatsoever in public health decisions.