Acclaim, Oscar, fame and then... the darkness.

Cuba Godding Jr.

After his Oscar win, his only kinda decent film was "Men of Honor". After that, pure crap like "Radio" and, of course "Boat Trip".

Tatum O'Neal

Halle Berry

George Chakiris

Ariana DeBose

Halle Berry used race to get that award. She’s a sociopath.

Meryl Streep

Miyoshi Umeki

Well he was on Love, Victor which I loved. He’s signed with CAA so you’d think he would have been cast in better roles by now.

r5 Seek help, sweetie

Hilary Swank, the course was doubled!

Emil Jannings, the first Best Actor Oscar winner, returned to Germany, did films promoting the Nazi party, and was awarded "Artist of the State" by Josef Goebbels. After Germany's defeat, Jannings name was mud and he never worked again. His "The Blue Angel" co-star Marlene Dietrich despised him and dismissed him as a "ham."

Mira Sorvino

Mira Sorvino

Monique pretty much disappeared.

Katina Paxinou

Alicia Vikander (Harvey girl).

Brie Larson.

Brie Larson was Captain Marvel and also starred in an acclaimed limited series. Where’s the “darkness”?

R18 oh boy... Brie's rep and/or Brie is at it again. Hi there hon. The Marvel role was not well received, btw. The limited series was good. (Lessons in Chemistry)

Being in marvel universe may pay the rent but gives her zero artistic visibility and nobody goes to see those for her performance. Other than that, her post-"Room" IMDB filmography looks pretty meagre for someone with an Academy Award.

Mikey Madison will be the next Brie Larson.

Get over it Demi @R21

Ke Huy Quan-gone

Liza Minnelli

Zoe Saldana

R19 unclench

Peter Finch

Finch died, I guess you can call that darkness.

If there's a spectrum between someone like Olivia Colman (wins an Oscar and makes the most of her newfound fame) and Ariana DeBose (almost every choice she made has been a failure), I'd put Larson roughly in the middle. She got a few nice paychecks, and Lessons in Chemistry was a success that reminded people of her talent.

The more distance we have from Ke Huy Quan's Oscar win, the more embarrassing it seems.

F. Murray Abraham

[quote]Cuba Godding Jr.

Changing his name from Cuba Gooding Jr. was probably a mistake. It made him seem full of himself.

Roberto Benigni

Kim Basinger

Helen Hunt

Jennifer Connelly

Casy Affleck

Gary Oldman

Allison Janney

Why don't you go to Helen Hunt for it?

Rami Malek

Mikey Madison (talented actress but Anora was a pathetic choice to bestow oscars on)

Jennifer Lawrence (will never reach the heights she had with Harvey's help)

Hillary Swank (She should have more prestige)

Anne Hathway (I adored early Hathaway, she deserved better)

Laura Dern

There’s a strange duality where the award doesn’t necessarily guarantee longevity or great roles but everyone in the industry has the mentality that it’s better to have one than not.

Swank looks and acts like a man. What kind of roles is she supposed to play? She already won the lottery twice.

Adrien Brody

Kieran Culkin

These choices are ridiculous. Swank and Brody won SECOND Oscars. Abraham works constantly, so does Vikander. Halle Berry remains a big star.

Laura fucking Dern?!

Let’s all try not to post unless we have any fucking clue what we’re talking about.

I had no idea how insufferable Culkin was until awards season. Every speech topped off at cringe.

r46 "topped off at cringe"

Speaking of cringing...

r45 You feeling ok?

[quote] Well he was on Love, Victor which I loved. He’s signed with CAA so you’d think he would have been cast in better roles by now.

R8 Reread OP’s post.

You’re in the wrong century.

Dr. Hang S. Ngor

Dr. Hang S. Ngor works more than me. Oh, they've found another project for Lina Hunt? I'm thrilled.

Laura Dern is turning up on most Oscar prediction list for next year. Who knows if it will come to anything because Gwyneth Paltrow is also being listed as a front runner for a nomination.

[quote]Who knows if it will come to anything because Gwyneth Paltrow is also being listed as a front runner for a nomination.

No one wants that bitch getting nominated again.

I don’t either lol

I don’t care how many times she fucked Chalamet or how many ping-pong balls shoot from her puss in the movie.

“It’s not like anyone says I shouldn’t have won that year!”

Very few of above mentioned celebrities exactly slid into obscurity, even Michael Cimino who became a well documented whack job. I’m looking for someone like Delores Hart who was a respected actress and then became a nun.

It's only August. Goldderby always lists as the frontrunners the people they most want to win Oscars at this time of year.

I know, but it’s fun to look before the season starts.

Lots of love for Amy Madigan, but if Toni Collette couldn’t get in for Hereditary I don’t see how Weapons is going to be any different but good luck to her.

Amy won't be up for Best Actress, r57. She isn't the lead.

Madigan is a veteran too. I imagine there are a lot of women of a certain age in the Academy who would appreciate what she was able to do with the role after so long in the wilderness.

R59 didn’t work for Demi Moore!

Amy’s weapons performance looks like Jamie Lees Everything everywhere all at once.

Jennifer Lawrence will probably get a nomination for Lynne Ramsay's "Die My Love."

Taraji should get in for Straw. It’s Tyler’s best work and she is sensational in it.

Most early prognosticators agree Roberts, Buckley and Cannes standout Reinsve will probably get in. The other 2 spots seem wide open. Ms Erivo and Lawrence maybe?

Marisa Tomei, thread closed.

Having watched the trailer for After the Hunt, I for the life of me don't get the Julia Roberts buzz.

R66, I was able to find that script and was going to read it over the weekend.

I don’t know what to expect, but I’m hopeful.

[quote] Marisa Tomei, thread closed.

Yeah sure. Earning other 2 Oscar nominations after her win and appearing as Aunt May in the Spider Man films is equal to fading into darkness.

R67 There was a copy up on Reddit for a while and I read it. It's pretty twisty. It's not like what the trailer intimates entirely.

Exactly! Her work in In the Bedroom is probably her best and came a decade after her win.

Unfortunately Michael Cimino followed up Deer Hunter with Heaven's Gate, an expensive film that was a bomb at the box office. It got mostly poor to mediocre critical reviews, which is bad news for a film that is 3 1/2 hours long. I saw it at the time, I thought it was good but a bit convoluted in places. It was hard to recover from that. His Year of The Dragon (1985) was actually pretty good and did good at the box office the earn a profit, but not the big hit they were hoping for. He spent the rest of his career trying in vain to get funding for films.

Melissa Leo

Timothy Hutton

Anna Paquin

Mercedes Ruehl

Marcia Gay Harden

Kim Basinger

F. Murray Abraham

Lou Gossett, Jr.

yeah but for years and years after her win, Tomei did fuck all

I saw Pollock on Tubi again the other day and I’m so glad Gay Hardon won that year. Kate Hudson was OK but, an Oscar?

R60, we can only hope there’s not some hot young thing with talent showing her titties through the first half to secure the male vote.

I should’ve listened to you guys. It took Moore losing at BAFTA for me to realize you all were right.

[quote]Most early prognosticators agree Roberts, Buckley and Cannes standout Reinsve will probably get in. The other 2 spots seem wide open. Ms Erivo and Lawrence maybe?

Betty Buckley?

Cynthia is already a lock for a nomination.

And you're forgetting the other Jennifer - Lopez for Kiss of the Spider woman. If she gets rave reviews, she could get the last spot.

I don't think Harvey's mattress is getting a nomination

R74 "Marsha Gay Hard-on" would be a flawless drag name for the Queen of this Hive of Wretched Villainy.

It should be noted that Paltrow and Roberts in the same awards season would make for epic bitchy DL cuntitude. Throw in some JLaw and the DL Fave Wicked duo girls Ms Erivo an Ariana Grande and you have the makings of must read snark heaven.

This is true. Sadly, they are all so weak from hunger a full-blown cat fight just isn’t in the cards.

Anybody mention Jean Dujardin yet?

Fortunately he's French and works steadily in France.

Peter Finch's win was posthumous

Mary Tyler Moore

Geena Davis seemed poised to become a star that kept shining, with a nomination for Thelma & Louise after her supporting actress win. and in the early 90s she was a big part of the pre-Joan Rivers red carpet at the Oscars ... always made the Best Dressed list. Without falling back on IMDB, What has she been up to lately?

I can only think this is why they awarded her. She was beautiful and she was talented but after seeing that movie as a gayling I just don’t understand that win.

That was a very strange year in that category. Anybody except Frances McDormand (for once) could have won. God, wouldn’t it be something to know who was runner-up?

Michelle Pfeiffer, right?

Irene Cara

Tatum O’Neil

Op said obscurity not bad films. Dumb cunts.

If we're including Oscar nominations, not just wins...

Catherine Burns dropped out of showbiz and fell off the radar, to the point where her death went unnoticed

r88 See r2 where her name is spelled correctly.

R84, Geena Davis' career took a big hit when she hooked up with Renny Harlin and did that disastrous "Cutthroat Island," which bankrupted Carolco Pictures. After that, she was back doing television with "The Geena Davis Show" and "Commander in Chief." Davis is currently working on a TV series for Netflix, "The Boroughs" with Bill Pullman.

[quote]Tatum O'Neal

The three of Ryan O’Neal’s kids who grew up in a house with him have had messed-up lives; she didn’t stand a chance, but she didn't give up.

[quote]Mira Sorvino

You can thank Harvey Weinstein for her lack of a career.

[quote]Gary Oldman

How is Sirius Black’s career in obscurity, R35? Especially considering his Oscar win was within the last ten years, and he has been nominated again since then.

[quote]Timothy Hutton

How is his career in obscurity, R72?

[quote]Anna Paquin

How is her career in obscurity, R72?

[quote][italic]Marisa Tomei, thread closed[/italic]

[quote]Yeah sure. Earning other 2 Oscar nominations after her win and appearing as Aunt May in the Spider Man films is equal to fading into darkness.

Exactly, R68

[quote]These choices are ridiculous. Swank and Brody won SECOND Oscars. Abraham works constantly, so does Vikander. Halle Berry remains a big star. Laura fucking Dern?! Let’s all try not to post unless we have any fucking clue what we’re talking about.

Repeating what R45 said, in case people missed it.

Louise Fletcher

Marcia Mason

Winning an Oscar can make an actor’s head big; some of them only want to do films in which they get paid lots of money, which limits them. Others are so obsessed with maintaining their new status and prestige, they become overly selective and lose their heat. Some stop being hungry; they have already won the biggest award the industry can bestow upon them, and they aren’t motivated to keep pushing themselves.

Even so, Hollywood increasingly rewards familiarity, and past success can be leveraged into career longevity. Anne Hathaway, for instance, hasn’t headlined a major box office hit in over a decade, yet her enduring cultural imprint from The Princess Diaries and The Devil Wears Prada keeps her relevant, allowing her to maintain a strong presence in the public eye.

Jennifer Lawrence, despite her lack of talent, was the biggest movie star on earth for several years and I would still consider her A-list. She will likely be given yet another Oscar nomination this year as a welcome back gesture.

F. Murray Abraham is 85 years old and still works all the time. Was in the White Lotus and supposedly on Broadway this season. He’s not the lead in any Marvel films..I’ll give you that.

Mason has never WON anything. And neither has Farrow,

Lorne Michaels

Tell me about it!

Gurrrrrl !!!!!!!!

No Oscar but still here

Louise Fletcher

[quote]Marcia Mason

It's Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!

[quote]Dr. Hang S. Ngor

Being murdered in 1996 was a real career killer for him. And it's Haing, not Hang.

[quote] And neither has Farrow

Mia is bitch.

R65, Marisa Tomei has been nominated twice since her My Cousin Vinny win and was Aunt May in the Tom Holland Spider-Man films. I’m afraid the thread remains open.

An actual good answer for this is Luise Rainer, who won back-to-back Best Actress Oscars for The Great Ziegfeld and (in yellowface!) The Good Earth, then basically stopped making movies after 1938.

Casey Affleck.

Thread closed.

[quote]An actual good answer for this is Luise Rainer, who won back-to-back Best Actress Oscars for The Great Ziegfeld and (in yellowface!) The Good Earth, then basically stopped making movies after 1938.

Saddest of all: Her comeback role many years later was a guess spot on "The Love Boat" playing twins.

Except Luise Rainer was never happy working and living in Hollywood, never liked or trusted her boss Louis B. Mayer or the MGM studio machinations. After her second consecutive Oscar for THe Good Earth (before she was 30), her main support Irving Thalberg died in 1937 and so Luise ended her 3 year contract and returned to NYC as the wife of playwright Clifford Odets, occasionally working in the theater. She lived to the age of 105.

Both Rainer wins are baffling. She won her first for the Great Ziegfeld, which was basically a supporting part, but was in the best pic winner, so it can be justified in a way. The second win she beat the likes of Dunne, Garbo and Stanwyck. It’s insane. I’m sure the MGM block of voters carried her to this win.

Director Sam Mendes tried to get 102-year old Luise Rainer to appear in the James Bond movie "Skyfall." He even offered to film at her own home, but she turned him down. She said she had no interest in acting anymore, but that she was flattered that she was remembered.

Luise Rainer should have played the old lady in Titanic!

“ Jennifer Lawrence, despite her lack of talent”

Please be serious.

[quote] Yeah sure. Earning other 2 Oscar nominations after her win and appearing as Aunt May in the Spider Man films is equal to fading into darkness.

Some of these answers are downright moronic. Some loser mentioned Adrien Brody who also just won his second Oscar this past year. Most of the people named so far have only won once, so a second award is doing pretty damn good, not fading into irrelevance. That's like saying Robert De Niro hasn't done much since winning his second Oscar for Raging Bull. You also don't need to be nominated ever year in order to maintain relevancy in Hollywood.

Mira Scorvino

[quote]r84 = Without falling back on IMDB, What has she been up to lately?

Ricky Schroeder won a Stinkers Award - what happened to him????

Well, Miyoshi Umeki *was* Mrs. Livingston on The Courtship of Eddie's Father and was known to all the kids of my generation, so there's that.

R111 When she was 89, Rainer appeared in the film, The Gambler (1997) -- based in the Dostoyevsky novel. She got a lot of acclaim for the role in the movie starring Michael Gambon.

PS -- have people here actually seen her in The Good Earth? I think she deserved the Oscar for that, it's an amazing performance, and I think she only has about 20 lines of dialogue, it's all in her face and eyes. Faux yellowface outrage. Nobody cares if an Asian or Eurasian plays a white character, which happens all the time

Personally I still would have given the Oscar to Garbo for Camille, but Rainer was superb. Can't say she was great in Ziegfeld, though. Fine, good, not great.

Lionel and Ethel Barrymore won Oscars, but John, probably the best of the three, was never nominated.

R123, if you thought she was believable as an Asian then I don't know what to tell you.

People loved the movie for years, it's only recently everyone thinks it's suddenly "unwatchable."

Not nominated since they won:

Julianne Moore

Brie Larson

Renee Zellwegger

Susan Sarandon career went to shit after she won. Woke is broke.

R126 I don't know if she was believable as an Asian, and I don't know if Linda Hunt was believable as an Asian, either -- an Asian man, in this case--and she also won an Oscar. (Somehow, just because it's a "modern" film, it's more acceptable to a lot of people because it's more relatable. That happens, culturally.)

I think this is a good review from a Vietnamese-American of The Good Earth that takes all of its problems into consideration. But still admits Rainer, for all her not being Chinese, gave a fine performance.

[quote]Mira Sorvino

Mira has "Romy and Michele's High School Reunion" and then she was blackballed by Harvey Weinstein because she wouldn't fuck him. Peter Jackson wanted her of "The Lord of the Rings" and money man Harvey said no.

Claude Jarman, Jr. Won a special juvenile Oscar the The Yearling (one of the last ones given, I think. Maybe Bobby Driscoll got one). He was excellent in Intruder in the Dust (excellent film), in John Ford's Rio Grande, and a few other movies, as a young adult actor. But his acting career didn't go anywhere after that. He didn't seem to have any darkness, he ran the San Francisco International film festival for many years and always was great on panels and when interviewed. But no real acting career after 20.

R127, when was the last time people "loved" it? 1940?

Ricky won a Golden Globe for The Champ.

R133 Well, It always got **** from TV Guide in the capsule reviews. The Rotten Tomatoes reviews (some of them contemporary) aren't bad (rated: 95%) , and it still rates a 7.5 on IMDB.

R128 Julianne, Brie and Renee work plenty. Julianne especially has a prolific and respected body of work since her Oscar win. So hardly crickets from all 3.

I’d say Jackie Coogan’s slide from being the adorable kid in “The Champ” to playing Uncle Fester was a tad precipitous.

R109 As Barrie Chase said in another thread, it paid the rent.

Even if Jackie Coogan has nothing to do with the theme of the thread.

R139 Coogan was nominated for two Oscars. And had a law named after him.

r139 Oops

R140 Jackie Coogan was never nominated for any Oscars.

R141 For what?

And anyway, this is about people who *won* an Oscar.

R63. You’re kidding, right?

R137, you're conflating two different Jackie's. Jackie Cooper was in The Champ.

/Jackies

Another fan here of Luise Rainer's performance as O-Lan in The Good Earth. She creates that character so simply and understatedly, really an unforgettable achievement. And she's surrounded by hundreds of Asian actors and actresses in scenes, never looking false or artificial.

As far as her Anna Held in The Great Ziegfeld, I think she's also incredible, beautiful and funny, authentically middle European, and the fact that she won for a supporting role actually tells you just how good she was. She certainly makes much more of an impression than the top-billed leading lady Myrna Loy, entirely generic as the very specific and very well-known second wife Billie Burke (of course, I'm sure that's what MGM wanted - just play Nora Charles!).

But I imagine in 1936 there was still a great portion of the audience who knew who Held was, even if they'd never seen her live onstage, and audiences and Oscar voters were enchanted.

^^ Damn.

Sorry, I didn't read all the posts, however, did anyone mention Nurse Rachet-Louise Fletcher!!

Luise Rainer over Carole Lombard.... I DON'T THINK SO!!

And by the way, even Jackie Cooper was only nominated once.

Most audiences had only seen Luise Rainer all glammed up as Anna Held so to then see her as a Chinese peasant was mind-boggling. Hollywood leading ladies, even Bette Davis, just didn't perform with that kind of range back then.

The Good Earth was a huge bestseller, won a Pulitzer and was almost as eagerly anticipated as GWTW would be a few years later. Millions had read the book and had firm ideas about who those Chinese peasants were and Rainer did not disappoint.

Some say this telephone scene alone cemented Luise's second Oscar win. To our modern eyes and ears, her performance seems so affected and downright hammy, but to 1930s audiences this was a tearjerker moment.

I'd say Will Smith...for now.

Well....just imagine Joan Crawford or Norma Shearer or....Carole Lombard trying to pull that off, r153.

Rainer was put into some stinkers after her Oscar wins. "Dramatic School"...? Actually she was sort of around in the 50's and 60s. She appeared on an episode of Combat!-- and she was in anthology series like Lux Video Theater, Schlitz Playhouse, and Suspense.

R153 It helps to see it in the context of everything that went before, in the film. It's a contrast to the rest of her deliberately superficial performance as spoiled star Anna Held.

[quote]Sorry, I didn't read all the posts, however, did anyone mention Nurse Rachet-Louise Fletcher!!

Fletcher was in the wrong category. She should have been supporting and Ann-Margret, who won the Golden Globe should have won. I have both "Cuckoo's Nest" and "Tommy" DVDs signed by both of them. Thanks CHILLER!

[quote]And it's Haing, not Hang.

Thanks. I knew it looked wrong, but I was pretty sure it wasn't HUNG.

R146. Yup Jackie Coogan was nominated for The Kid and not The Champ. My apologies. As far as Jackie Cooper? I’d say he had a very successful career as an adult. Plus, he hated Alan Alda in MASH which is a plus in my book.

R160 Jackie Coogan was not nominated for The Kid (1921). There were no Oscars then. He never got an Oscar nomination.

R161. True. But he WAS Uncle Fester. 😁

R160. By the way, never ever trust AI.

R162 Haha true. Can't that away from him.

Do we know if Haing was hung?

I always thought Luise Rainer resemebled Meryl physically and to be fair, they both seemed to have been received similarly by their peers, though Streeps period of relevence was much, much, longer, obviously.

I could name a bitch.

R161. But Jackie Cooper WAS nominated for Skippy, but lost to Lionel Barrymore for A Free Soul (Cooper slept through the announcer, napping on Marie Dressler’s considerable lap). Cooper actually gave a more natural performance than Barrymore.

R168 So?

Hennifer will not be submitting lead R76. She’s stupid, but she’s not THAT stupid. She’ll submit in supporting where she has a (very) distant shot at a nomination.

R153 TGZ was her first win.

Get a load of R161.

The Spiderwoman role isn't a lead by any measure. It's basically a series of fantasy sequences Molina entertains with to pass the time in prison.

Catherine Burns story is so sad. She seemed on the verge of an esteemed acting career, but the critics were so fucking clueless and hateful towards her.

Rex Reed and Ebert seemed to be the only two who got it.

Hard to believe the same Frank Perry who directed that infamous Crawford film also directed Last Summer and Diary of a Mad Housewife.

Carrie Snodgress was another one who didn't want the fame and just left on her own terms. But she came back a few years later and worked steadily until she passed.

I never knew Catherine Burns, Carrie Snodgress and Frank Perry won Oscars.

[quote]PS -- have people here actually seen her in The Good Earth? I think she deserved the Oscar for that, it's an amazing performance, and I think she only has about 20 lines of dialogue, it's all in her face and eyes. Faux yellowface outrage. Nobody cares if an Asian or Eurasian plays a white character, which happens all the time

In fact, Eurasian Will Sharpe (half English-half Japanese but looks Japanese) was cast as Mozart in a TV series of AMADEUS for British television due out later this year.

[quote]Very few of above mentioned celebrities exactly slid into obscurity, even Michael Cimino who became a well documented whack job. I’m looking for someone like Delores Hart who was a respected actress and then became a nun.

Dolores Hart was never nominated for an Oscar although the 2012 documentary about her, GOD IS THE BIGGER ELVIS, received a nod.

David Puttnam

R168 to this day, Jackie Cooper remains the youngest actor to be nominated for Best Actor at age 9.

He later went on to play Perry White in the Christopher Reeve "Superman" movies, which earned him immortality since those movies are still popular today.

R174 Catherine never won an Oscar, but she was nominated for "Last Summer."

I have who studied with her at the Academy of Dramatic Arts in New York in the 1960s, and he said she was an amazing actress.

R154 For reasons which are well known to him.

R180 Catherine Burns lost to Goldie Hawn in CACTUS FLOWER (accepted by a ravishing Raquel Welch).

The other nominees were Dyan Cannon in BOB & CAROL & TED & ALICE, Sylvia Miles in MIDNIGHT COWBOY, and Susannah York in THEY SHOOT HORSES, DON'T THEY?

I wonder why Burns rolled her eyes when her name was read?

R182 I think she was nervous and insecure. My friend who knew her said she called him when she was nominated and told him she didn't think she deserved her nomination and that she didn't want to go to the Oscars ceremony. He convinced her otherwise, but it seemed obvious she felt out of place there.

Dolores Hart became a nun, and a mother superior of a monastic order, she wrote a book and there was a documentary about her. She even opened a theater at the abbey of Regina Laudis in Connecticut, where sometimes stars (like Patricia Neal, in Agnes of God) have performed. Obviously it was her choice to enter religious life at a time she was very successful in Hollywood, so I wouldn't say she slid into obscurity.

R178, I don’t quite agree with Puttnam since he did do a few well-regarded films after Chariots of Fire, but his tenure at Columbia Pictures really did put a stop to what was up to that point an interesting career.

Also, anyone trying to argue that Luise Rainer’s performance in The Good Earth is even competent should have their head examined. It’s not that she’s unconvincing playing Asian, it’s that she’s unconvincing as any human. She’s that awful.

Billy Wilder, as usual, was right: "What the hell does the Academy Award mean, for God's sake? After all – Luise Rainer won it two times. Luise Rainer!"

R153 here. I got my chronology mixed up. I thought The Great Ziegfeld was Luise Rainer's 2nd Oscar win, but I was mistaken.

I take issue with the word Acclaim. My sister bought a Plymouth Acclaim back in the 1990s and it was a crappy ugly car.

Judy Holiday had done a few movies earlier in the 1940s to no great effect. Had great stage success in 1946 with Born Yesterday. She initially declined her role in 1949's Adam's Rib because her character was called "a fatso". Katharine Hepburn and Garson Kanin talked her into it, thinking this would be a screen-test for the film version of Born Yesterday. More hit films followed. However, 1956's Solid Gold Cadillac wasn't so good and there were no more films through the remainder of the decade. Holiday's last film was 1960's Bells Are Ringing. In October 1960, she had to bow out of a play because of ill health. That was the beginning of the cancer that would end her life in 1965.

Her costar, Tom Ewell, after being in show business since the middle 1930s, interrupted by serving in WWII, got noticed in Adam's Rib. Received much attention for the 1952 stage play, The Seven Year Itch, starred in the film version. Had more film successes, including the cartoonish The Girl Can't Help It. It was then that Ewell's film and stage careers began to cool. Had a one-season run with a sitcom. Spent the rest of his career in supporting or guest roles in tv shows.

Tom Ewell was homely as a mud fence. Character parts were his inevitable future, despite having co-starred with Marilyn and Jayne Mansfield.

La Bradley Cooper...oh wait.

[quote] However, 1956's Solid Gold Cadillac wasn't so good and there were no more films through the remainder of the decade. Holiday's last film was 1960's Bells Are Ringing.

There were no films because Judy was in Bells Are Ringing, a big hit, onstage from 1956-1959.

Judy was so good in Bells Are Ringing she took the Tony away from Julie Andrews in My Fair Lady.

^^^I googled it years ago, and was shocked Julie Andrews lost the Tony award for MY FAIR LADY& CAMELOT^^

My neighbors, all old-school Broadway patrons, told me that My Fair Lady& Camelot were "monster Broadway shows". However, Phyllis tells me all the time, Judy Holiday was sensational in Bells are Ringing& that's how she won the Tony over Julie Andrews.

I think Bells re Ringing was something of a Broadway comeback for Judy Holliday after almost a decade in Hollywood. She was a hugely beloved actress in NY and I think voters were just so excited to have her back on the boards.

Judging by the movie, I can see why Judy Holliday won the Tony. Doing that role on the stage would have been a tour de force.

I think Marissa Tom May leads a very private life away from the spotlight when she's not working, and that's how she likes it. You never hear gossip, see paparazzi shots, rumors, nothing. Even her primary relationship. no doubt she's charitable, but I don't know that her name is aligned with any specific charity. She's from Midwood which is a very typical, bland part of Brooklyn that is barely gentrified. I think she now lives in the condos that were built when St. Vincents Hospital did that big change over about 15 years ago

Marisa was with hot younger than her actor Logan Marshall-Green for a long time. I wonder if they're still together. And WHET his career?

Shirley Booth got the Oscar for Best Actress of 1952, and only made 3 more movies.. About Mrs. Leslie (1954) , Hot Spell (1958), and The Matchmaker (1958). (She had a cameo as herself in MGM's Main Street to Broadway, 1953). Of course she continued to be successful, in Hazel, on TV (she lied about her age for years, and was born in 1898, so by the end of Hazel she was pushing 70).

The Oscar didn't lead to obscurity but she probably could have had a very long, successful screen career if she'd been willing to play supporting roles, like Thelma Ritter or Ruth Gordon. I guess she made a lot of money from Hazel, though, and she remained a lead in everything she did until she retired, afaik.

About Mrs. Leslie co-starred hunky Robert Ryan (10 years her junior) and it was a good Back Street, magazine-fiction type of drama. But she looked like his mother.

(She was offered Frank Capra's Pocketful of Miracles, 1961, and turned it down--maybe she turned down other things in the movies, idk.)

Shirley could've had a much longer screen career if she'd changed her position on nudity.

Directors just refused to let her get naked in any of their films.

Shirley Booth often returned to Broadway in the 1950s and early 60s before Hazel overtook her career. No hits but she was in the musicals By the Beautiful Sea, Juno with Melvyn Douglas (based on Juno and the Paycock) and A Tree Grows in Brooklyn (in which she was top-billed as Aunt Cissy and stole the show). She was also in the plays Time of the Cuckoo and The Desk Set, both roles stolen by Katharine Hepburn in the film versions - Summertime and Desk Set. She wasn't dependent on Hollywood to have a big career and keep working.

I wish she had done Pocketful of Miracles; she would have been a brilliant Apple Annie, far funnier and more poignant than later career Bette Davis.

Shirley much too sexual for the silver screen. Her burning visceral sensuality was so blinding it was impossible to follow any story.

Are the Asians who won Oscars for EEAAO landing decent roles. What have they been up to? Or are they being denied roles because they aren’t from the Asian characters country of origin. If true that’s weird because Hollywood routinely casts British blacks to portray black Americans.

"Or are they being denied roles because they aren’t from the Asian characters country of origin."

That's not happening, but I guess the "anti-woke" idiots never run out of things to complain about

"Marissa Tom May"

The new Jackie On Assistance.

R204 I’m not anti woke. My people invented woke. I was making a sarcastic remark mainly in reference to the Daniel Dae Kim thread someone recently created.

R201 Yes of course you are right--and she also did The Glass Menagerie on TV. I guess I was being specific about her Oscar win, and whether it lead to a lot of film roles, and screen fame, or not.

I'm not sure Hepburn stole Summertime, did she? I thought her casting was David Lean's idea. But she definitely stole Desk Set...though no one was probably clamoring for Shirley to do it on the screen. In fact no one was clamoring for Hepburn to do it, either, as Fox only did it on the condition Tracy costar with her.

Shirley Booth was in the Hepburn Philadelphia Story on Broadway in 1939. She played the role of the photographer Liz Imrie, played in the film by Ruth Hussey.

Hepburn was well-aware of Shirley's talent and always checked out her performances on Broadway after she became a star. I can imagine Kate telling David Lean: "Go check out that Time of the Cuckoo....and wouldn't it make a mahvelous film with me in the lead? We can film it all on location in Venice!"

Somewhere I read that Hepburn went backstage and told Booth she should tour with Cuckoo and Hepburn should do the movie. I love Booth, but it’s not clear to me should would have been as effective in the eventual film of Cuckoo, whereas Hepburn, about whom I run hot and cold, depending on the film, have one of her best performances in Summertime—you could see why she was still a spinster, yet believed in the brief, transformative affair with Rossanp Brazzi. It’s a visual gorgeous film, as well. People talk about how Magnani “stole” the Oscar that year from Hayward in “I’ll Cry Tomorrow,” but for my money, Hepburn was better than Hayward (and I love me some Susan)—and the others (Eleanor Parker in “Interrupted Melody” and Jennifer Jones in “Love is a Many Splendored Thing”) were solid performances to fill out the category. In truth, Betsy Blair in “Marty” should probably be in Lead rather than Supporting.

OP for some obscure reason, the Twinkie being dipped in mustard has remained in my mind from The Deer Hunter for decades. With all the outstanding scenes in the movie, that one has stuck. Go figure.

We know nothing about Linda Hunt. Is she gay or straight? Married? Children? Is she still acting? The sad thing is, nobody cares enough to find out.

The only big role she got after winning the Oscar was a small role in The Relic.

In non-acting categories I will include the Three 6 Mafia guys who won Best Original Song in 2006 for "It's Hard out Here for a Pimp" (Hustle & Flow).

What ever happended to them? Did they release any popular/hit songs after their Oscar win? Are they considered one-hit wonders?

If they live comfortably on their past laurels I don’t get “The Darkness”.

R211, I’d say Linda Hunt is probably best remembered for Kindergarten Cop, even more than The Relic or even The Year of Living Dangerously.

Hunt did spend over a decade on one of the NCIS shows, so no matter what she’s doing now, she’s financially set for life.

R211 Linda Hunt is openly lesbian. She has been in a relationship with psychotherapist Karen Kline since 1978, and they were married in 2008.

[quote] I had no idea how insufferable Culkin was until awards season. Every speech topped off at cringe.

Agreed. I never was more relieved than when he failed to receive an Emmy nomination for Glengarry Glen Ross. One more speech begging his wife for a child will be one too many.

[quote] The only big role she got after winning the Oscar was a small role in The Relic.

?

Hunt is lesbian and has been partnered with the same woman for many years. She is 4ft9in—that she had as steady a career for so many decades, given her physical characteristics, is a tribute to her talent, but also, I suspect, to the recognition the Oscar brought her. She’s 80–we somehow act as if performers don’t have the same right as us ordinary civilians to say they’ve worked enough at a point.

I often wonder why she isn't maligned for playing an Asian character (like Luise Rainer, for ex, or sometimes Jennifer Jones, who only played a Eurasian).

...And I never get an answer.

R220 I don't know. Maybe because that movie is 43 years old now and no one thinks about it?

Who's "maligning" Jennifer Jones for playing a Eurasian? A few random dataloungers?

R222 I don't know, I've actually heard Eurasian people say her makeup is great and her performance is great, but I guess it's just other stuff I read here and there. Luise Rainer, as well, but Linda Hunt seems relatively free from yellowface complaints. And if it was 40+ ago, the other performances were even older, of course.

Thank you, R45 -

Some of those listed are constantly working. Everyone can't be Tom Hanks (Philadelphia followed by Forrest Gump) for example.) As long as they're doing good work (Gary Oldman is currently Emmy nominated for Slow Horses for example) what's the problem?

I read that as Gary Coleman is currently Emmy nominated...

Because Linda Hunt is short, ugly and queer, she already has enough to deal with

Linda Hunt was very good in The Years Of Living Dangerously, but that was in spite of her casting. I rewatched it a few years ago, and her acting was excellent but did I think she was a short Asian man? No.

And she's from New Jersey.

I always found it extremely weird that only months after her win, Marcia Gay Harden signed on for a supporting role on a CBS drama. That was really the best offer she got after the Oscar?

Barkhad Abdi.

Margaret Elliot

I'm always surprised people think actors will get better parts after they win Oscars. It's just an award for one performance--it doesn;t mean you're always a great actor.

Olivia Colman got great work after "The Favourite" because she's genuinely a great actress--time and again she hits it out of the park, and she has superb range. Helen Hunt has a tiny range, and she can be quite good within it, but it's stills mall: so of course she didn't get much good film work after "As Good as it Gets."

And no one except gay men pay much attention to who wins Best Supporting Actor and Best Supporting Actress.

I think someone like Eva Marie Saint made a big impression winning Best Supporting Actress (partly due to her great performance and her looks, and partly because of her Oscar speech, when she said "I might have the baby right here," while pregnant.) I would say the next ten or more years of her career were boosted by getting that Oscar, and she became an actress playing leading roles immediately after she won. The whole career was an offshoot of a supporting Oscar.

Maybe she still would have done just as well, but who knows? It's the best publicity, and the most public endorsement.

F. Murray Abraham.

Abraham starred in WHITE LOTUS last year and is co-starring with Kristin Chenoweth in the new Broadway musical QUEEN OF VERSAILLES this fall.

He may never have been a leading man but he's always worked and often in prestigious projects.

Halle Berry

R211 Linda Hunt was the voice of Grandmother Willow in Disney's POCAHONTAS (1995).

Contrary to popular belief, that movie was not a failure but, in fact, a box office smash.

It was the 5th highest-grossing film of 1995, making only $17 million less than TOY STORY, which is considered a blockbuster and a game changer.

POCAHONTAS also beat TOY STORY at the Oscars for Best Song and Best Score.

[quote] Hunt did spend over a decade on one of the NCIS shows, so no matter what she’s doing now, she’s financially set for life.

She’s destined to be Edna Mode in a live-action “The Incredibles.”

Hunt also had a small but pivotal role in David Lynch's Dune. Pauline Kael remarked that seeing Hunt appear on screen as part of the huge ensemble was a thrill, but after imparting one or two very important plot points, she gets killed off.

I am the Shadout Mapes... the housekeeper!

Linda Hunt was also in SHE-DEVIL (1989).

From let to right: Meryl Streep, Roseanne Barr, Sylvia Miles and director Susan Seidelman.

Ben (Argo) and Casey Affleck (Manchester by the Sea}

Most of these posts make no sense. The Afflecks are now obscure? Oy! This question is tough to answer. It’d be easier if it included Oscar nominees. In that case, Harold Russell, the double amputee in “The Best Years of Our Lives” would be a good answer. But he didn’t win.

R243. Sure he did. Harold Russell went home with 2 Oscars. One for Supporting Actor, the other an honorary one for his service.

R244 Then that’s my answer! 😁

R244 If they gave honorary awards for service in WWII, they would have had to give a lot of them. The award was for 'bringing aid and comfort to disabled veterans through the medium of motion pictures."

I met Harold Russell once at a Red Sox game. Some years later he was in the news for selling one of his Oscar--to pay for his wife's medical treatment, I think.

Unlike in the movie, he was an Army vet. He enlisted in his late 20's and I don't think he saw action. He was teaching demolition stateside and handling TNT when it went off by mistake.

Director William Wyler discouraged him from focusing on acting, as he knew roles would be limited.

[quote] Wyler told me I should go back to college because there wasn't much call for a guy with no hands in the motion picture industry. I figured he was right. [In the handful of roles I've taken since then,] I always play a disabled veteran. And this is what Wyler said—'After a while they're going to run out of ideas'—and he was absolutely right. How many times can you play the same role?

He was great in Night Moves (in the 80s). He also appeared in some other things when he was older.

You mean Inside Moves R248.

R249 I do.

R121 known for repeatedly addressing Bill Bixby as Mista Eddie's fatha

Most of these posts make no sense. The Afflecks are now obscure?

no one said obscure but looking at Casey's IMDB page after Manchester his credits are in movies I've never heard of and after winning for Argo in 2013 Ben was in Gone Girl in 2014 but nothing of note otherwise.

Both George Chakiris and Rita Moreno both won Oscars for WSS but for the rest of the decade their credits are in B pictures.

Miyoshi starred on Broadway and in the movie of Flower Drum Song, got a Golden Globe nom for the movie, and also for The Courtship of Eddie's Father.

R252 Rita Moreno--what a flop! Won a Presidential Medal of Freedom in the early 2000s, still starring in things in the 2020s.

R253 BFD!

R254 No one used the word flop but after winning the Oscar in 1962 she didn't have many offers until the 70s when she appeared on Broadway in the Ritz and the subsequent movie version that her career took off

R255 Not big fucking DARKNESS, tho.

R256 I'm not doubting that, I guess it's how you interpret the them of the thread, I take it to mean obscurity, not comebacks.

Rex Reed on The Dick Cavett Show references Miyoshi Umeki after Cavett asks whatever happens to supporting actors?

Gloria Grahame. Her career didn't dramatically go over a cliff after her Oscar win but there was a slow but constant decline into obscurity

[quote] Gloria Grahame. Her career didn't dramatically go over a cliff after her Oscar win but there was a slow but constant decline into obscurity

Catastrophic and unnecessary facial surgery and fucking your 13-year-old stepson will do that to you.

r257 I hope you're feeling better

Shirley also did the musical version of "Lilies of the Field", called "Look to the Lilies" with Al Freeman Jr. Here on Ed Sullivan.

^ Look to the Lilies ran for 25 performances and 31 previews which is understandable. Based on that clip it looks awful.

Many Oscar winners particularly in the supporting categories went on to become popular in TV shows: Donna Reed, Patty Duke, Dorothy Malone. Frank Albertson, Shirley Jones, Myoshi Umeki, Cloris Leachman as well as Loretta Young, Shirley Booth and Ernest Borgnine who won in lead categories