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The gay ideal man has changed

In the 80s, it was blond Ken Doll men.

Now it's Latin, Italian, or Middle Eastern men.

by Anonymousreply 15August 12, 2025 11:08 PM

Ok cool

by Anonymousreply 1August 12, 2025 12:37 AM

Thanks for letting me know!

by Anonymousreply 2August 12, 2025 12:38 AM

OP- It was slim pretty boys back then. Now it is guys with huge muscular arms and chests plus lots of ugly tattoos.

by Anonymousreply 3August 12, 2025 12:41 AM

Nice for me. Too bad I'm pushing 60 (but look 45)

by Anonymousreply 4August 12, 2025 12:42 AM

And in the 1920s, it was Rudolph Valentino. Your point?

by Anonymousreply 5August 12, 2025 1:10 AM

Not sure how old you are OP but, as someone who came out at that time, I don't recall blonde Ken doll types being held up as the "ideal".

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by Anonymousreply 6August 12, 2025 1:24 AM

Too wide a net, doll.

by Anonymousreply 7August 12, 2025 1:25 AM

We were fed what the porn producers found attractive. Lots of hairless blond twinks and waxed bodybuilders.

by Anonymousreply 8August 12, 2025 1:46 AM

Yet social media disagrees with OP. White brunettes rule the gay world. Maybe a hot blond here or there but white men continue to be at the top of the gay food chain. A latino or Middle Eastern gay man would have to work 3x as hard as an equally attractive white man to get half the attention online.

In person it's a toss up with a white man will still be almost everyone's preference, globally. It's fucked up but the truth is the truth.

I have nothing to say about Italians because most look and are just white.

by Anonymousreply 9August 12, 2025 1:51 AM

R9- Spaniards are white and Latino too. Latinos are sometimes white. I have had sex with guys that could be described as White Latinos.

I don't think what you're saying is true about Latinos and Middle Eastern guys - they are often considered very hot but for Asian guys I think that would apply- having to be far more attractive to still get half the attention of a White or Latino guy online.

by Anonymousreply 10August 12, 2025 2:51 AM

R10 Spaniards are not Latino. Latinos are from Latin American countries (Mexico, Central America, South America, Caribbean).

Hispanics are from Spanish-speaking countries including Latin America and Spain.

There are white Latin Americans due to colonialism, but Spaniards are European.

by Anonymousreply 11August 12, 2025 8:14 AM

Where did you go to school, R11? The word latino is simply Spanish for Latin. You know, the language of Rome? So Italians are latins, pretty much by definition. The phrase "latin lover" could be an Italian, a Spaniard, or someone from South America.

by Anonymousreply 12August 12, 2025 10:29 PM

Middle Eastern guys and 50% of Latinos are white

by Anonymousreply 13August 12, 2025 10:46 PM

What, no Black men?

Your loss.

by Anonymousreply 14August 12, 2025 10:47 PM

The gay ideal man has changed - the uncut, thicker dick has become the norm. Not a lot of foreskin, and ideally it fully retracts when hard, but in so much porn I see, that's what's attached to the ideal man.

by Anonymousreply 15August 12, 2025 11:08 PM
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