Side note: it shocks me that no one seemed to be angry that he flew this fucking plane into the ocean and killed to people. People talk about this “accident” like it was an act of God, instead of an idiot who was 100% responsible for this catastrophe. The accident never seemed to dent his popularity a bit. Whereas Ted Kennedy was rightly blamed for Chappaquidick.
Have any of you ever met or ever saw JFK Jr in real life?
by Anonymous | reply 95 | August 15, 2025 1:57 PM |
It was an accident. He didn’t crash it intentionally or act negligently. He just wasn’t an experienced pilot.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | August 11, 2025 3:52 AM |
No but I met his father. Charisma for days.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | August 11, 2025 3:59 AM |
JFK had "it".
by Anonymous | reply 3 | August 11, 2025 4:03 AM |
Only in my dreams
by Anonymous | reply 4 | August 11, 2025 4:11 AM |
He was such a Greek god. And apparently as humble as he was good looking.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | August 11, 2025 4:21 AM |
The most handsome, friendly, and humble guy I’ve ever met. Yes, I had the great pleasure of meeting him.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | August 11, 2025 4:35 AM |
Yes.
He was in Vermont and I was a local reporter. I found out where he was staying and called his thugs to try to arrange a photo op. They said no. Undaunted, my editor told me to hide in the bushes. There were really no good hiding bushes
I went down to the local Quickie Mart to have a smoke and decide what to do.
Suddenly he pulled up with his entourage and went into the store. All of them went in and they all came out with lots of beer.
Yes he was gorgeous.
And I almost jumped out of my car to say "look. I respected your wishes and I asked for a photo and your guys said no. So I didn't take your picture" like he owed me or something. But it would have been such a bad pic with all that beer, and he was John-John!
I did not get my photo.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | August 11, 2025 4:43 AM |
Yes, at MK in NY. A friend asked him to dance and he took her up on the offer. Very nice guy, extremely charismatic.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | August 11, 2025 4:48 AM |
MK! You were in with the In Crowd R8.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | August 11, 2025 4:51 AM |
[quote]Have any of you ever met or ever saw JFK Jr in real life?
Oh, come on! This was covered in second grade grammar. " Ever saw"?
by Anonymous | reply 10 | August 11, 2025 1:11 PM |
Yes, I almost physically ran into him coming out of a Burke and Burke (IYKYK) across the street from Lincoln Center my first year in NYC. Stunningly handsome. Probably the only celebrity NYC sighting I actually wanted to happen.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | August 11, 2025 3:35 PM |
Many times. He and Darryl Hannah lived across the hall from my good friend in the 90s. I also biked a lot, and he was always on his bike too all over the Upper West Side. He actually recognized and acknowledged me which was kind of cool. But we never exchanged words.
He was beyond gorgeous.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | August 11, 2025 3:47 PM |
I was at the opening of the Kennedy library or breaking ground for it?
I'm embarrassed now but I took a photo of him
He was a teen but in fairness, so was I.
Angie Dickinson was there, too. I got her autograph
Today, it'd be a selfie
by Anonymous | reply 13 | August 11, 2025 3:52 PM |
[quote]Angie Dickinson was there, too. I got her autograph
Are you sure it wasn't me?
by Anonymous | reply 14 | August 11, 2025 8:05 PM |
Yes.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | August 11, 2025 8:25 PM |
He and Caroline on various occasions. My law firm Represented the Onassis estate in the sale of the Park Ave. apartment, the Kennedy family re the Merch Mart, and John-John’s estate for a while.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | August 11, 2025 9:27 PM |
He smelled wonderful, even when sweaty and fresh off the bike. He made no eye contact unless you were speaking with him. Both he and Caroline had this uncanny ability to completely ignore everyone around them, except for the people they were directly dealing with.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | August 11, 2025 9:29 PM |
Yessss ....
by Anonymous | reply 18 | August 11, 2025 9:36 PM |
Yes, he dated another woman—not Daryl Hannah—who lived at 111 Fourth Avenue for a while. He would park and lock his bike out front, and I rode the elevator with him a few times. He was very handsome and polite.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | August 11, 2025 9:38 PM |
I saw JFK Jr. on the street in NY on three occasions in the mid-late 90s. He looked exactly the same in person, absolutely gorgeous. Even if he hadn't been famous and had just been some anonymous guy on the street he still would've made people stop and stare.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | August 11, 2025 9:38 PM |
I also saw his mother in a corner bodega on Lexington on the UES in the early 90s. I was standing behind her in line, she was taller than I thought she'd be. What was Jackie buying, you ask? Two packs of Marlboro Reds.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | August 11, 2025 9:41 PM |
Did Jackie on Assistance pay with food stamps, R20?
by Anonymous | reply 22 | August 11, 2025 9:45 PM |
If John Jr surived the plane crash but the others were dead, attitudes toward him may have shifted. As it was, he paid a high price for his failures and could no longer be held accountable for them. (Also the Kennedys = American royalty thing)
by Anonymous | reply 23 | August 11, 2025 9:49 PM |
His nephew is a looney tune and possibly DL.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | August 11, 2025 11:07 PM |
I saw JFK Jr on his bike riding past me. He was wearing a suit and was very handsome. I saw Caroline on a bus near Madison Square Garden. No make up and very uncharismatic.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | August 11, 2025 11:40 PM |
[quote] Whereas Ted Kennedy was rightly blamed for Chappaquidick.
Teddy 1) wasn’t hot, and 2) didn’t die
by Anonymous | reply 26 | August 11, 2025 11:44 PM |
I'm curious what he'd look like now. Or what he'd be doing now. He'd probably have signed up for some reality show if the money was right.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | August 11, 2025 11:48 PM |
Ate by him twice in an empty restaurant we both went to. He was alone. Ate at a table near Jackie Onassis in some ritzy upper east side Italian restaurant. It was ok. Nothing great. I have yet to see Carolyn but have no desire to.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | August 11, 2025 11:59 PM |
Re R16
correction: 5th Ave (1040)
by Anonymous | reply 29 | August 11, 2025 11:59 PM |
He's ok, but JFK jr sure as hell ain't no Donald Trump, Jr.
Hubba, hubba. Now there's a real man. He's got it goin on and the one man I'd leave Pa for.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | August 12, 2025 12:11 AM |
Seen him? I still see him very regularly.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | August 12, 2025 12:15 AM |
It was a blustery night as I entered the Mineshaft, my eyes adjusted to the dimmed light and I looked up and there he was......
by Anonymous | reply 32 | August 12, 2025 12:26 AM |
Yes - I worked in the dept next door to him at Manhattan District Attorney's Office. He worked in Trial Bureau 60 - which is low level offenses.
Didn't come into work that much. Other ADAs prepped the cases and then handed it off to him at the last minute to avoid press clogging up courtrooms.
Very handsome, very trim - and great manners. That's all I've got. Never actually worked with him, but saw him often enough and shared elevators with him.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | August 12, 2025 12:33 AM |
How many times did he fail the bar?
How embarrassing. Was he simply not that bright?
by Anonymous | reply 34 | August 12, 2025 12:38 AM |
R34 - I think three times. He was a wealthy eligible bachelor having fun, dating around. He didn't really want to be an attorney and he finally buckled down because it was getting embarrassing.
He left to go into publishing - George magazine - but that was a bomb too.
They say he wanted to act - and he was in a lot of plays in high school and college. But Jackie said hell no. That explains a lot.
I don't think he was dumb - I think he didn't have direction. Also, he was HOUNDED by paparazzi every GOD DAMN DAY.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | August 12, 2025 12:43 AM |
He posed tastefully nude (no dick) in a George photo. He knew he was hot.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | August 12, 2025 12:56 AM |
yep. buddha bar, nyc. thanksgiving night, ’90. relaxed, smiling, 11 p.m., drinking (anniversary of his dad’s death but also his b-day weekend) outgoing, stood up to shake my hand and introduced himself to me, (who wasn't 21 years old yet but didn’t get carded). short visit
by Anonymous | reply 37 | August 12, 2025 1:01 AM |
R32:
And then the killings began.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | August 12, 2025 1:04 AM |
He passed the third time.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | August 12, 2025 1:18 AM |
Yes, waiting for a ride home at the start of Easter Week break at six he college I attended where he and his sister must’ve been visiting their cousin who also was enrolled at the time. Just sitting on the stairs by the quad, campus mostly deserted, when he and Caroline suddenly came out the doors and simply strode down the stairs and on their way across the courtyard. He was in a light-colored suit, and—I gotta say, it’s so true that he was hearstoppingly gorgeous, even more so, in person. They were oblivious to and not looking for attention from anyone around them, and just were smiling headed straight ahead. Must’ve learned that great, steadied composure from their mom. It’s a nice visual memory I’m glad to have.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | August 12, 2025 1:43 AM |
Yes.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | August 12, 2025 1:48 AM |
Himbo
by Anonymous | reply 42 | August 12, 2025 2:08 AM |
Dead-o Coke-o
by Anonymous | reply 43 | August 12, 2025 2:28 AM |
Nobody liked Besette. That's why the focus was on him.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | August 12, 2025 2:43 AM |
I saw Daryl Hannah and him rollerblading in Central Park during the Gay Games at the 25th anniversary of Stonewall. He was a beautiful blur.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | August 12, 2025 2:47 AM |
I’m with r27 what would he be doing now???
by Anonymous | reply 46 | August 12, 2025 2:47 AM |
R26, you only remember Ted from his fat Elvis stage. He was absolutely hot in his younger days. He was considered by many to be the most handsome of the brothers. Just today, I happened to watch a Watergate-related interview of Ted from June 1973, when he was 41, so almost three years older than John, Jr., & his jawline was sharper than John, Jr.’s was in the latter part of his life.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | August 12, 2025 2:47 AM |
About two weeks or less before he died, and with his leg still in a cast, I did jury duty with JFK Jr.
We were not on a jury yet, but did two days of [italic]voir dire[/italic] panels together. Everyone was star struck.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | August 12, 2025 3:55 AM |
Met him at a George event. So handsome. Teddy was there too. (He slimmed down while married to Vicky). Congressman Joe Jr. was there too.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | August 12, 2025 3:56 AM |
Didn't actually meet him, but he did check me out in a coffee shop.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | August 12, 2025 4:15 AM |
I saw him roller blading around the D’Agostino on Columbus and 91st in 1991. I lived on 87th then.
He was absolutely stunning. I staggered to the checkout and Joyce Randolph from “The Honeymooners”, who also lived in the neighborhood, was in line behind me.
She elbowed me and said, “I’ve never been so starstruck in my life…” 😍
by Anonymous | reply 51 | August 12, 2025 4:18 AM |
He shouldn't have flown unsupervised with a cast on or at night. He attempted both. Stupidly.
There were a lot of articles about Carolyn having her nails painted and then re-done at a salon a few times, making the flight late.
He was generally assumed to be pussywhipped after the photos of them fighting in Central Park were printed in the tabloids. The pictures mostly showed her yelling at him and him sitting on the ground and crying.
IIRC, the Bessette family received a huge payout for their loss of two daughters.
But, still...
by Anonymous | reply 52 | August 12, 2025 4:28 AM |
Handsome, sure. But not the sharpest pencil in the pencil box.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | August 12, 2025 5:01 AM |
Have I ever met or ever saw him, you ask, OP? No not yet, but I’m hoping to!
by Anonymous | reply 54 | August 12, 2025 5:03 AM |
I was sitting outside taking a mid afternoon break from work, it was quiet that time of day and I see this guy walking by, I’m thinking wow he’s gorgeous, wait is that JFK Jr? Yes, it is JFK Jr! His George magazine office was a block away.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | August 12, 2025 5:08 AM |
he could have modeled.
on Queer as Folks, when the boys recalled his passing, Emmett said they showed video of him playing football, shirtless, in Central Park and he didn't know whether to weep or jerk off.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | August 12, 2025 5:55 AM |
R16 The lawyer from the family firm, you have got to tell us more!!! How much was John worth? How much did Jackie’s apartment go for?
by Anonymous | reply 59 | August 12, 2025 7:54 PM |
Jackie’s apartment info is public knowledge—it was bough and sold again. Last I heard the owner was Jeff Blau and his wife. He’s the head of Related.
Only gossip I can share is that one of John-John’s best friend from law school (a firm partner) was co-executor of his will—along with a Kennedy cousin. Once various formalities were completed after the death, he resigned at the immediate behest of Caroline (no outsiders).
by Anonymous | reply 60 | August 12, 2025 10:09 PM |
The first purchaser's of Jackie's apartment were David and Julia Koch, of the infamous Koch brothers.
It said in the paper they did a gut rehab. From the photos I've seen it looked scruffy yet elegant when Jackie lived there. A lot of wealthy people who live in such grand apartments kind of let them go to seed. They get old and likely don't want to start a two year reno project, even if they have the money.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | August 13, 2025 2:48 AM |
*purchasers
by Anonymous | reply 62 | August 13, 2025 2:48 AM |
[quote] Side note: it shocks me that no one seemed to be angry that he flew this fucking plane into the ocean and killed to people.
But it was wrong!
[italic]Shockingly[/italic] wrong!
by Anonymous | reply 63 | August 13, 2025 3:09 AM |
Tina Brown interviewed the producer of the new JFK Junior documentary and try she could she couldn’t get the guy to admit that he was an idiot.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | August 13, 2025 3:46 AM |
Seems like he either liked being seen, didn’t like being home, or both.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | August 13, 2025 4:14 AM |
I used to see him rollerblading in Tribeca... just gorgeous...he had IT
by Anonymous | reply 67 | August 14, 2025 5:20 PM |
R66 is bllind
by Anonymous | reply 68 | August 14, 2025 7:24 PM |
R68, I cannot tell whether R66 is being disingenuous. And if he's on the level, where you stand on young(er) Ted's looks.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | August 14, 2025 8:13 PM |
Jackie’s apartment was on its way to becoming like her aunt and cousin’s home
by Anonymous | reply 70 | August 14, 2025 8:51 PM |
The story I had heard in the days after it happened was that Caroline’s sister delayed them by taking longer at work. Of course the stories blamed the women, not the guy flying.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | August 14, 2025 8:52 PM |
Carolyn, R71.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | August 14, 2025 8:56 PM |
I went to law school with him, so yes.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | August 14, 2025 9:01 PM |
Did your gaydar ever go off, R73, or is it just the case of a lot of DL wishful thinking?
by Anonymous | reply 74 | August 14, 2025 9:03 PM |
Not unlike Princess DI, I don't think JFK Jr was meant to grow old (as stupid as that sounds). George was already going on under at the time of his death & his marriage was unraveling. If he hadn't crashed that plane that night, I think he would've wrapped his car around a tree, drowned while kayaking or some other stupid, ill-advised thing. But he was The People's Prince and we loved him anyway .
by Anonymous | reply 75 | August 14, 2025 9:47 PM |
Back in the early 90s, my husband had a layover in the Newark airport. This was back before cell phones were common. My husband was calling me from a payphone when JFK Jr came up to the phone next to him to make a call.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | August 14, 2025 9:58 PM |
[quote] Did your gaydar ever go off
As if.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | August 14, 2025 9:59 PM |
@64 "she couldn’t get the guy to admit that he was an idiot."
I used to think JFK Jr. was an idiot. But I've read a fair bit about him and what I learned about him changed my mind. John wasn't particularly academic. He had ADHD, which can make focusing and writing long, cogent essays on dry topics harder than for your average student. He had to be held back a year at his preppy New England high school. He flunked the Bar twice. But when he was interested in a subject (like American politics), he could hyper-focus and had some really interesting, nuanced opinions that he expressed well. For any number of reasons, George Magazine was doomed to fail but John saw (a decade or two before the rest of us) the how much celebrity and politics were going to intertwine. It takes a certain kind of intelligence to be so magnetic, so charming.
Anyway, yes, I saw JFK Jr. twice IRL mid-late '90s. He was handsome but I was more struck by the fact the guy clearly carried himself as if all eyes were on him at all times. Not self-conscious, but definitely self-aware.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | August 15, 2025 1:42 AM |
I don't think it takes intelligence. You got it or you don't. Which is why Lana Turner was a movie star at the biggest movie studio of them all and Angela Lansbury was always second lead despite being good friends with the boss.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | August 15, 2025 2:24 AM |
You went to a Lana Turner movie. Whoever went to an Angela Lansbury movie? If she had done Mame she would have gotten The Boys in the Band crowd.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | August 15, 2025 2:27 AM |
[quote] Whoever went to an Angela Lansbury movie?
I did. One of the first movies I ever saw was Bedknobs and Broomsticks.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | August 15, 2025 2:46 AM |
I always found him articulate when he was interviewed. Mind you, he had time to prepare for questions that were basically about himself, and I am sure he had help. But he also came off as curious about things and wasn't arrogant.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | August 15, 2025 3:53 AM |
Yes. I was attending the Democratic convention in 1988 in Atlanta, and saw him as he was walking into the building and coming down the hallway on his way into the back stage area of the arena. He walked right past me and I was surprised at how tall he was. And he looked exactly like his pictures. Gorgeous. I recall being struck by how slender he seemed.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | August 15, 2025 3:59 AM |
As I think about it, I met Bobby Kennedy...Sr. when he was in the Senate and my class spent the day in Washington. I met Teddy many years later when I was a Congressional aide and was working on the set u p for a public hearing. He later wrote me a note thanking me for my assistance. Apparently he did that. I was surprised. I still have it somewhere. I was too young to have met JFK when he was running for POTUS.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | August 15, 2025 4:08 AM |
OP don't you mean "Have you ever SEEN..." not "saw."
by Anonymous | reply 85 | August 15, 2025 4:10 AM |
[quote] I was surprised at how tall he was
How tall are you?
by Anonymous | reply 86 | August 15, 2025 10:46 AM |
He was shorter than I am and I was 6'2" 1/2, un shod, and in business shoes both times as was he. But he had very high hair. Also he was slight. He looked so built and athletic but he was slight, as was his father. Wonderfully attractive in looks and vibration.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | August 15, 2025 10:58 AM |
I shared an elevator with John-John and his handlers after an event in lower Mannhattan. It was when he was single, but out of college. I guess the "George" years. He had a blue suit on; it was dirty. He was gorgeous.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | August 15, 2025 11:11 AM |
When he went to Brown University he used to come into the bakery / cafe where I worked after school (I'm three years younger than him, almost to the day). I used to always wait on him since I would work 'the counter' from 3 - 6 pm, and he would always come in around 4-5 for a sandwich and dessert before he took off for his 6:00 class (I remember him telling me that). Most times he was alone and would spread his text books all over the table to study, other times he'd have a friend with him (I remember mostly male friends, very few times a female).
Anyhow, he was very nice and friendly with me when he was alone. I would always give him a small paper plate as soon as he came in so he could take out his mouth retainer and put it in the plate. Then he'd eat his sandwich (he used to order turkey sandwich every damn day, sour cream & onion chips, and a cream cheese brownie for dessert with a carton of milk). He didn't mind that this young gayling was drooling all over him - he loved the attention. He really was a stunning, sexy guy in his early 20s - and he knew it. We had some nice conversations - always asked me how school was going (I was a senior in high school).
When he brought a friend in, he acted like he didn't know me. He was rather aloof with me, and not friendly. He didn't want a paper plate for his retainer - he would grab extra napkins and discreetly stick it in those and stuff it in his pocket.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | August 15, 2025 12:13 PM |
Jack Schlossberg may not be as conventionally handsome as his uncle, but he does bear a certain uncanny resemblance. He’s also a bit more Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs—just watch some of his TikToks and you’ll see what I mean.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | August 15, 2025 12:42 PM |
Years ago, I was helping out in a restaurant. He was in town for the EAA Convention. The restaurant was extremely busy due to the convention. He came in and the owners scrambled to get him a table immediately, cuz he was JFK Jr. He said no, please don't bother, I'll wait. And he waited just like everyone else. People left him alone.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | August 15, 2025 12:59 PM |
I love Jack, R90. Yeah, he’s a total nut but he’s entertaining.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | August 15, 2025 1:03 PM |
Where can you see photos of the inside of Jackie’s apartment?
by Anonymous | reply 93 | August 15, 2025 1:07 PM |
Pics of Jackie's apartment at 1040 5th Avenue
by Anonymous | reply 94 | August 15, 2025 1:30 PM |
R89
Or anyone else...why do you suppose he acted differently - aloof - when he came in with a friend? What was different?
by Anonymous | reply 95 | August 15, 2025 1:57 PM |