Epstein Files situation — Part 3 — more to drop?

Yeah. Trump told on himself today. He can't help himself. I've never seen anything like that. He's the worst in every way

Thanks Dustin — I actually had to work hard this afternoon, and missed that Pt 2 was maxing out.

Cross-referencing, here’s the nearly full Pt 2 for convenience

I could have sworn I did that, Torta (R3). I know I copied the link. I probably forgot to paste.

A word of advice...don't get old. LOL

Trump will pardon her so that she doesn't spill the beans on him.

She's still a loose end, r5.

I've heard she's liable for New York state charges at that point?

He spills the beans on himself every day.

CNN — Trump blabbing that Epstein poached young women from Mar-A-Lago raises new questions…

I think what he meant was that he didn’t mean what you think that he said but didn’t actually say it.

I just can't get over the fact that the *one* time Donald doesn't want publicity ...

[quote] He spills the beans on himself every day.

That could refer to several things, including what happens in his XXXL Depends.

Of course it was the woman who killed herself then he said he poached women from his spa, the worlds greatest spa at mar a lago.

Trump and the MAGA ecosystem/cesspool that enables his bullshit have largely succeeded in normalizing a political climate where a critical mass of people needed to demand this to stop can’t be coalesced. Too many people just don’t care.

Pedophile Epstein stole Pedophile Trump's little girlies.

Soooo... Is tRump confusing relationships?

I'm wondering if it is like my father--who has dementia--who thinks the woman he's married to is his sister.

Why didn’t Epstein have a kill switch in place when they offed him? Or did he?

[quote]The House Oversight Committee on Tuesday declined a request from Ghislaine Maxwell’s lawyers to grant her immunity in exchange for testifying to Congress. Maxwell's lawyers said in a letter Tuesday that Maxwell, an associate of the late financier Jeffrey Epstein, would be willing to testify if she received formal immunity, alongside other requests.

Ghislaine was his kill switch, r17. But she went into hiding before he was offed and stayed hidden for years until she was picked up in 21 or 22.

You’d better believe SHE has multiple “kill switches”. She saw what happened to her buddy.

Unless the scumbag isn’t really dead.

[quote]Unless the scumbag isn’t really dead.

With *these* people that remains a possibility.

Not one so-called reporter bothered to ask why Trump was employing 15-year-old girls in his “spa.”

Ghislaine is a dead woman walking. She has always known her life was in danger. Somehow she cut a deal that kept her alive. But now that the entire Epstein situation has been revived, and she has become a focus, I think she is in real danger. I can see her getting suicided...just like her father who was a true monster.

I hope she never knows a moment’s peace.

[quote] Not one so-called reporter bothered to ask why Trump was employing 15-year-old girls in his “spa.”

IT WAS AN AFTER SCHOOL JOBS PROGRAM SET UP BY THIS WONDERFUL, GENEROUS MAN--OUR GREATEST, KINDEST PRESIDENT EVER! WHY DO YOU HATE HIM?

Ghislaine, spill it in public before the news breaks that you "committed suicide."

Anonymous said to expect more from them, that the video they published is just the beginning.

[quote]In Florida, the minimum age to work is generally 14 years old. However, there are specific restrictions on the hours and types of jobs that 14 and 15-year-olds can perform. They are generally limited to 15 hours per week when school is in session and cannot work more than 3 hours on a school day.

Here's your answer, R21. And it's been like that for at least 50 years.

Yeah, R26, and they published that how many weeks ago already? Plenty of “now” moments to release ANYTHING have come and gone in the meantime.

Anonymous never delivers. Don't get your hopes up.

Yeah, Anonymous either has nothing or they inexplicably sat on it all 2024.

So Trump's Mar-A-Lago "spa" offered rub-and-tugs (or more) and he was pissed Epstein was poaching his girls. Is that about right?

Was there any lower age limit for Mar-a-Lago "girls" ("taken" by Epstein) to add "a happy ending" to their skills set?

On Howard Stern Trump said 12 year olds were too young for him so you know for sure he was raping 6th graders

Seems obvious, but someone needs to ask Trump why he employed underage girls at his "spa" in the first place.

She handed out towels at the pool.

You’re missing the forest for the trees

She’s going to name all Democrats and not Trump. Trust me. They’re already telling her what she needs to do for a pardon. She’s a sociopath and will do anything she has to do to get out of prison.

What video did Anonymous release?

Pardoning a convicted sex trafficker and a pedo abettor wouldn't be good for them and would turn off an even larger number of MAGAts. Her original prosecution cannot be portrayed as political and they know that. They'll find some other way to compensate her, like depositing large sums into some offshore account.

[QUOTE] She’s going to name all Democrats and not Trump. Trust me. They’re already telling her what she needs to do for a pardon. She’s a sociopath and will do anything she has to do to get out of prison.

Great. And then once she does that, someone who has the FULL list with Trump all over it (and whoever else she is conveniently leaving off) can drop it as a comparison. Do you think she is the only source for this information?

I would love for the Trump Admin to try something like that. They have no idea what will be unleashed once they do.

These people are not smart.

Neither is the Qult, r39.

The cult is desperate for orange Jesus to confirm what they’ve been feeding on for years. They don’t care if it IS all lies. It will calm their cognitive dissonance like nothing else so they can go back to their zombified state of hate.

Clinton must have dirt on Trump and Epstein he can spill when she names him.

Yeah, but Clinton might end up conveniently falling out a window...

Trump is claiming that Murdoch wants to settle the lawsuit.

The fact that WSJ/Murdoch haven't denied settling would seem to lend credence to it. But I hope Trump was just talking out his ass as usual.

Almost all parties would rather settle a high dollar suit than risk losing, even if the risk of losing is not great.

So all WSJ's great big scoop did was line Trump's pockets even more.

Trump is on video telling a 10 year old girl he will probably be dating her in 10 years.

Trump is on video telling a 10 year old girl he will probably still be dating her in 10 years.

Murdoch knew BEFORE the WSJ published the story that Trump would sue about it, so what was the whole point of them putting it out there if they're settling now? But I am not at all surprised they are.

Also, it means that the WSJ has no more stories like that or if they do they won't be publishing them.

I'm sorry - what is "poaching" in this context?

So gross

It means to hire away from…to steal

Is settling going to make this disappear? Too many people seem invested in this story for it to go away, it’s the perfect scandal for the American public-simple and about repellent sexual practices.

Prurient sells, r54.

r48 not what I heard, what I know.

R56, you missed my point.

Bless your heart.

Settling won't make it disappear completely but certainly will make other news organizations stop reporting anything they uncover.

Why would WSJ settle? Don’t they have backup and possibly even the original letter?

I’m so sick of this fat fuck collecting payments for his atrocities.

Bingo, r58.

I didn't see anything in that blurb to indicate the WSJ is intending to settle. It was all based on Trump saying it. And Trump is always so truthful.

Trump never —er, always—lies. Never!

Epstein victim was in one of Trump's teen beauty pageants

[QUOTE]A word of advice...don't get old. LOL

Oh my, this cracked me up, Dustin. My go to line when I have a brain fart or senior moment (but I'm only 61!) in the presence of youngsters is "Whatever you do, don't get old." Some laugh a little, but they mostly don't get it. Yet. 😁

[QUOTE]Ghislaine was his kill switch, [R17]. But she went into hiding before he was offed and stayed hidden for years until she was picked up in 21 or 22.

JUST SUICIDE THIS GHISLAINE CUNT ALREADY!

I don't understand what "kill switch" means in this context.

Could someone enlighten me? Thanks.

I believe it's also referred to as a "dead man's switch". If a person dies suddenly or disappears, someone else will release some information that was held secret.

Geez, talk about senior moment, I totally forgot to complete my post at r64 about Ghislaine!

She didn't quite disappear. She was spotted a number of times and it was reported she got married. Her husband sounds very well-connected.

[QUOTE]On 15 August 2019, reports surfaced that Maxwell had been living since 2007 in Manchester-by-the-Sea, Massachusetts, in the home of Scott G. Borgerson, a Council on Foreign Relations fellow in residence.[168] In October 2020, due to the publicity surrounding Maxwell, Borgerson stepped down as CEO of CargoMetrics,[169] a hedge fund he had founded.[33][170][171] Maxwell and Borgerson were described as having been in a romantic relationship for several years.[33][170][172]

[QUOTE]Maxwell moved to a remote 156-acre (63 ha) property in Bradford, New Hampshire, in late 2019,[180] where she used former British military personnel as personal security until her arrest in July 2020.[116] At the time of her arraignment, federal prosecutors stated that Maxwell was married; she did not disclose the identity of her spouse, or their respective finances.[181] In December 2020, it emerged that she had married Borgerson in 2016.[182][183][123]

Kill switch guy? I assume the DoJ can't talk to him.

It’s like when Carey Mulligan’s character is murdered at the end of PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN. Her death triggers a “kill switch” she had arranged for in the case of her death, directing the authorities to her murderer and revealing all.

Hmmm, R69 -- I'll have to watch that again.

I honestly think that her kill switch is one of her dad’s old military intelligence buddies.

But that’s just me.

I suspect all of her father's contemporaries are dead, r71. He'd be 102 now.

This isn't going to die down because people are fascinated with a scandal. I think Melania has a part to play in this whole thing.

Didn't Trump and the whore fuck for the first time on Epstein's plane?

R74 Yes. What does that tell you? And such a beautiful story for your children...

Meet cute? Meet puke!

I wonder if she’d already earned her Einstein visa for exceptional whoring at that point?

Hm, looks like they may have misspelled Epstein on that visa…

[quote] Didn't Trump and the whore fuck for the first time on Epstein's plane?

Where was that reported?

Trump can't stop bragging about the details, he gets off on it. Like Richard Speck

Epstein STOLE that virginia Giuffre and all trump has to say about trafficking a young girl for sex is "I don't like it when people poach my employees"

Trump is a sexual deviant along with Epstein and Maxwell.

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Honestly, I think she could say Trump fucked 20 10-year-old girls and his base would not care.

Those are some lucky 10 year olds!

IQ45/47.

He says he never was on the island.

He just fucked them all on Epstein's Jet.

‘Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich’ Documentary Sees 430% Viewership Spike:

A “hookers and pimps” party?

So, just a party?

Why does Whore Melanoma get a pass in all of this? She's in all of these Epstein/Ghislaine photos too.

R89 - 'cause Malaria is the 'bosses' wife and is innocent like he 'thinks' he is. With all the alterations shes had over the decades her young, dewy look has morphed into the 'Ice Queen'. A match made in Hell. BTW, Hell is waiting impatiently for the Orange Tumor - they only hold openings for so long.

A hookers and pimps costume party? I guess Donald and Melania just went as themselves

I wonder if Mel know who Clara Petacci was.

I'm willing to let him take the plane with him when he leaves provided he leaves this week.

He received 42% of the vote despite the charges against him

Paging Libs of TikTok, we found a groomer!

[quote]He received 42% of the vote *because of* the charges against him

Fixed it for you, r94.

Wasn't there a scene in Bridget Jones' Diary where she dressed as a Playboy Bunny for a Tarts and Vicars party? It seems like it was a British thing?

I've been waiting all week for this discussion to drop. Few people know more about Epstein and what he was up to than Ryan Dawson.

Darryl Cooper spoke with Tucker Carlson two weeks ago for a couple of hours about Epstein, where he drew heavily on Dawson's reporting over the past several years. He also promised to do an even deeper dive with Dawson and get into the weeds about the Epstein case, and here it is. (...this is the audio only version and the video will post later)

[quote]It seems like it was a British thing?

Not necessarwily, r97.

I'm sure there's a lot of saliacious stuff out there about Trump.

Prince Andrew is the only one who can save us right now

Come on Andrew br a hero, come forward, out from your hiding hole and share with the world all that you know about Trump's connection to Epstien.

Trump, the savior of these religious wackos--how many abortions did he buy over the last 5 decades? That might be something Anonymous could look into.

Who am I kidding? The cult would just excuse it or scream fake news.

July 31, 2025 Heather Cox Richardson

On Monday, at a meeting with U.K. prime minister Keir Starmer in Scotland, President Donald Trump boasted that he was solving all the world’s problems: “I’ve stopped six wars in the last—I'm averaging about a war a month. But the last three were very close together. India and Pakistan, and a lot of them. Congo was just and Rwanda was just done, but you probably know I won't go into it very much, because I don't know the final numbers yet. I don't know. Numerous people were killed, and I was dealing with two countries that we get along with very well, very different countries from certain standpoints. They've been fighting for 500 years, intermittently, and we solved that war. You probably saw it just came out over the wire, so we solved it…

Part of Trump’s determination to demonstrate his power is likely coming from the continuing unraveling of his involvement in the affairs of late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. On Tuesday, Trump seemed to try to cast himself as the protector of girls from Epstein, but his suggestion that he had turned on his friend after Epstein had hired 16-year-old Virginia Giuffre away from Mar-a-Lago in 2000 immediately attracted attention to the actual timeline of the friendship between the two men. It showed that their friendship lasted quite a bit longer. In fact, it was in 2002 that Trump told New York Magazine that Epstein was a “terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."

Members of Giuffre’s family said in a statement yesterday: “It was shocking to hear President Trump invoke our sister and say that he was aware that Virginia had been ‘stolen’ from Mar-a-Lago. It makes us ask if he was aware of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell’s criminal actions, especially given his statement two years later that his good friend Jeffrey 'likes women on the younger side…no doubt about it.’ We and the public are asking for answers; survivors deserve this.”

Tonight Trump told reporters he doesn’t know why Epstein was taking girls from Mar-a-Lago.

Keep stepping it, fool!

Is the DOJ still saying there are no files?

Nothing shady about this:

^ This is all so ham-handed. She gets moved to a better prison a few days after Trump's henchmen visit her. She'll be pardoned and free very soon. Probably living her best live on a yacht in Europe.

Trump is trying SO HARD on Truth Social to whip up a distraction story / outrage against Obama. (Something something coup, 2016, Russia.) It’s not landing at all, outside the MAGA/Fox echo chamber.

Maybe not so quietly now, R106. The NY Post just put this up as their front page / lead story (as of Friday 1230pm eastern)

BREAKING NEWS: Friday night news-drop imminent!

R109, it’s a less security prison but also… less security. If you get my drift.

Can’t you just picture her in about a month on a beach chair staring into the ocean like Kathleen Turner in the last scene of Bodyheat?

R112 Not so sure. May be more like Weekend at Bernie's...

Btw, before someone “oh dears” me, the first “security” should have been “secure.”

Any bets on how long it will take her to "escape"?

[quote]Can’t you just picture her in about a month on a beach chair staring into the ocean like Kathleen Turner in the last scene of Bodyheat?

Maybe, but that won't necessarily be quite the last scene. If you get my drift.

Her sex offender status was WAIVED for her to be moved to a minimum security prison.

Can't some bull dyke just shiv her in the shower?

R#117 OMG! Step #1 to get her out!

That's perfect, R112.

"It is hot."

Texas? Send repugnant cunt Maxwell to "Scorpion Sing Sing."

Surely it exists!

Throw her in Aligator Alcatraz!

Her lawyers a cutting a deal for her to get out and be relocated somewhere that she can live out her days in anonymity. Away from the media in particular. She might drop a few bombs on some Democrats in exchange first, but guaranteed this it’s what going on.

[quote] Throw her in a vat of boiling oil!

FIFY R122!

She's a prime candidate for Trump's Witness "Protection" Program. In a Red state suburb.

Damned reporters incapable of asking the most basic of questions.

- Does anyone know whether trump's Mar-A-Lago spa employed young male as well as young female attendants?

- Were the young women spa attendants' interactions restricted to female members only? Were the Mar-A-Lago spa girls required to provide massages to men?

^ There were no young male masseuses at Mar-a-Lago. I would know.

Some reporter could be more famous than Woodard and Bernstein just by asking a few simple questions with a follow up or two. Everyone is so sick of this fat headed sex pest

To be fair R128, the manface from CNN kept repeatedly asking him about Epstein. To which the orange anus kept saying "Be Quiet."

R129 - 'Manface' - aka Kaitlan Collins? Perfect description - (s)he always has this sour look 'her' face as though (s)he downed a gallon container of distilled white vinegar.

Ex-CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou talks with Epstein and political sex abuse organization reporter Nick Bryant

Kaitlan Collins is known as Angry Bird in our house.

[quote]Kaitlan Collins is known as Angry Bird in our house.

Re: R16

[quote] There were no young male masseuses at Mar-a-Lago.

Oh, dear.

R134, anyone who’s experienced this particular kind of brain decline in an older loved one / relative, knows the undeniable fact: it will worsen, and it will accelerate as it worsens.

2026 is likely to get messy.

Honest question, r136

Is that why they are attempting to soothe him with these absurdities like installing a Mar-A-Laredo style patio in place of the Rose Garden?

Because comfort amid the shitstorm of their own design will lessen the symptoms somewhat?

That's possible R137. When my mom had her dementia (before she stroked out and became docile) she was a holy terror. Sometimes it was best to let her get her way on innocuous things. A lot of the time I didn't have the energy to fight her (she also had a lot of the narcissistic issues that Trump has).

Kaitlan Collins might look sour and mad but so far she is one of the few reporters who doesn't back down from Trump.

Miss Lindz, with an orange-red glow 🍾, defends, spins. and projects blame’s on democrats, as she and Hannity lust over Trump.

His dementia is from syphilis.

Senator Ron Wyden has been doing the real work to follow the money back to people like billionaire Leon Black. He is rightly demanding that the IRS investigate who else was paying Epstein outrageous sums for ‘financial advice’.

Alan Dershowitz Does NOT Want Anybody To Remember This Alarming Epstein Testimony

I'm more worried about Trump sending nuclear missiles to the coast of Russia because "Medvedev has a fresh mouth."

Subs with nuclear missiles that is.

He’s been itching to launch a nuke

at an “enemy,” a hurricane, a blue state, whatever . . .

Russia and the US are not going to attack each other, silly

Let’s not forget there’s a 99.97% chance that Uncle Vladimir has something on Ole Yam Tits. He’s only going to go so far with Russia. Now Harvard on the other hand…that’s the real enemy!

Trump has Miss Lindzey and Putin doesn’t. Big advantage, for Trump.

The Senatrice’s trick pelvis and world class cock sucking lips have lured many a fascist astray.

[quote] Let’s not forget there’s a 99.97% chance that Uncle Vladimir has something on Ole Yam Tits.

And Vlad showed it to him at Helsinki in 2018. Dump is a terrible poker player and telegraphs his emotions. He looked shaken to his core. Vlad probably has tape of him raping a 10 year old--maybe Ivanka.

I have never seen that look on Trump's face before or since, R151. Even his posture seemed broken. And not a single reporter has ever asked him about it.

Can someone post it?

r153...

Then there's this interaction which some claim is Trump being shown blackmail materials. MBS is chortling in the background.

The thing about Trump being blackmailed by Putin at the Helsinki meeting is that it may not matter at this point because his dementia could have obliterated the memory. "What?! What agreement? That's crazy!" It may account for some of the "pushback" he's given Putin. Nobody was in there with him to verify anything, so I wonder how much his staffers then and now know about what transpired.

I had the misfortune of taking care of an Alzheimer's mother who also had life-long, horrid narcisstic qualities. It was not uncommon for her to agree to or want something, only x amount of time later to angrily, almost violently (slamming stuff around) denying it because she couldn't remember and it didn't strike her increasingly labile moods. The time interval shortened from days to hours to even less as the diseased progressed.

I've mentioned this in other threads: if there's any silver lining to this, it's that Trump is making his staffers' lives a living hell. If he threw plates of food at the Oval Office dining room walls in 2020, you can bet it's far, far worse now. The people around him likely have no experience with such a thing. I didn't at 44 when I started caretaking. And the thing is, relief is momentary if there is any. There's very little in the way of explaining rationally, cajoling, trying to get in his good graces, pleading or threatening dire consequences that will penetrate or help. And it will only get worse.

Marge Goes Rogue!

[quote]Nobody was in there with him to verify anything,

I thought there was a translator, r156.

Ghislaine Maxwell not welcome in Texas ‘Club Fed’ prison camp, says inmate: ‘Human trafficking is a violent crime’

Oliver O'Connell

Mon, August 4, 2025 at 11:24 AM EDT

Ghislaine Maxwell’s transfer to a minimum-security prison in Texas — commonly referred to as a ‘Club Fed’ — has upset her fellow inmates, who believe she shouldn’t be there given the nature of her crimes.

The disgraced British socialite and former girlfriend of the late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein was quietly transferred this week from a stricter low-security prison in Tallahassee, Florida, to a prison camp 100 miles outside Houston, Texas.

Maxwell’s new prison mainly houses inmates convicted of “white-collar” crimes and minor offenses, and they are said to be angry about her presence.

She is serving a 20-year sentence for sex trafficking underage girls for Epstein, the financier and convicted pedophile, who was found dead in his prison cell in New York while awaiting trial in 2019.

A prisoner at Federal Prison Camp Bryan told The Telegraph that she was “disgusted” by Maxwell’s transfer, a feeling shared by many fellow inmates.

Julie Howell, 44, who is serving a one-year sentence for theft, told the outlet that “every inmate I’ve heard from is upset she’s here.”

“This facility is supposed to house non-violent offenders,” she added. “Human trafficking is a violent crime.”

When Maxwell arrived at the facility, prisoners were reportedly locked down and had the blinds closed in an apparent attempt to hide her from view.

Inmates at minimum-security institutions, also known as FPCs, enjoy a low prison guard-to-inmate ratio and minimal or no perimeter fencing.

FPC Bryan has a sports field, gym, arts and crafts activities, a theater program, and a program that allows inmates to play with puppies and train them to become service animals.

There was a translator; who, for reasons of precedent and tradition, was not forced to testify as to what was said.

[QUOTE]I thought there was a translator, [R156].

IIRC, the translator was provided by Russia which created another level of consternation.

Trump admits to hiring 17-year-old girls because he's attracted to them

That was a large part of what disturbed people paying attention re the Helsinki meeting — Trump went in there ALONE with Putin offering a Putin-provided translator. No other US government officials accompanied him. Then Putin comes out looking positively gleeful with triumph and Trump looks shaken and beaten like a dog… and no one will ever know what was said!

This was unprecedented and it should have been a campaign piece in 2024. It truly should have.

The problem, r163, is that MAGA doesn't have a problem with Putin.

MAGA didn't know it doesn't have a problem with Putin until Trump started talking positively about him back in 2015/16 -- that he knew how to talk and work with him. Back then even Trump didn't think he could win the presidency. His objectives were Trump Tower Moscow and a media company.

R164 I know but

(a) Independents do, and

(b) it’s a rather shocking puncture of Trump’s “Alpha mystique” in the eyes of his base.. that photo at R154 says so much. and it would be alarming to the BushCheney-Condi-Rumsfeld era GOP. They are only 5-10% of the electorate at this point but wedges matter when it’s this close.

I recall Omarosa saying she saw Trump eating paper in the Oval Office. That's one way to avoid the Records Acts. Or maybe he was eating the blackmail evidence.

R157, when you read that article, you learn that EmptyG is still giving Trump a pass. So her whining about the GOP is meaningless and inconsequential, because Trump IS the GOP. She knows that, so all she's doing is posturing.

R159 I think the real crime is how good her hair looks! Given her age, access to beauticians, and products her long bob is looking thick, and the color isn't a streaky gray mess! WTH are they feeding her?

According to Wolff, Donald Trump has spent recent days making desperate phone calls to his closest allies. And what is he saying on those calls? Not policy. Not campaign strategy. But this:

“You know I didn’t kill Epstein, right?”

Yes, really.

Wolff tells us this comes directly from someone who just spoke to Trump. And when that person asked Trump if he believed Epstein was killed, Trump’s response? “A lot of people wanted him dead.”

^ Dementia Donnie confesses to killing Epstein.

Pretty much, R171. I honestly don't think I've heard anyone say Dump killed/had killed Epstein - just the involvement with underage girls.

What? He may as well say, "I killed Epstein." Why bother otherwise? I'm hoping the dementia gets more progressive and he confesses to all sorts of misdeeds that he has previously lied about.

He's not lying. Technically, *he* didn't kill him. He was nowhere near Metropolitan Correctional Center. He's wily, that one.

I think it was a suicide. However, no way Orange Idiot didn't know about the youngsters back in the day. He didn't care

Is the coroner who performed the autopsy still alive? S/he's probably the only one who can say with some certainty.

LOL what's coming next... "You know, I wasn't the one, I didn't pour acid on the pee tape myself, you know that, right? .... A lot of people wanted that tape destroyed."

The only thing I'm waiting for is that fine fine day when he's giving a press conference or some other televised speech and he suddenly loses control of his bowels in front of everyone and drips shit and piss through his suit on live TV. That and the hope that when he does go full last stages of dementia, he is caught on live TV drooling and mumbling (more than usual, that is) to the degree that the video feeds have to be suddenly cut and there's a PR scramble. That's the only justice I want to see - a complete physical breakdown in front of everyone

R178 - that scenario, should it (or any portion) play out would probably kill him. He is always worried about image/presentation and loosing control of his sphincter muscle and tongue in public would cause him to go into convulsions - on LIVE TV! Why is he tormenting humanity so, yet no one does anything to stop him? It really wouldn't take much - ya know!

We can dream that some sort of massive public humiliation that can't be distracted from occurs soon!

Yes, R179, and that's exactly why I long for it, pine for it, wish for it every day. Is there a voodoo doll for that?

He’s diapered and cathetered.

R181 - Just a bit of Metamucil slipped into his beverage or meal before the News Conference would encourage a show stopping explosion that no diaper made could endure and would surely cause his catheter to rupture.

That's a BREAKING NEWS situation that would shock the whole planet!

I'm ready for it.

Visine

R179 (Icky) and R180 I’m so in your club. Been fervently wishing for humiliation like that to happen to Trump as soon as possible. I do think we are witnessing real cognitive decline in progress and that it’s become a worsening problem for the Trump White House already. A different shape than Biden’s; this is far less halting/hesitant and far less filtered.

Meanwhile it seems like this week — so far — is not serving up anything new re: Trump/Epstein. Time will tell.

Evil will not win, it always fails in the end.

The other inmates at the prison Maxwell is in are not pleased that she is there. They feel a low life pedophile such as she is deserves a lot worse. Maybe they'll take care of things.

Some of the inmates are probably mothers. They won't have her back, no siree.

[quote]Evil will not win, it always fails in the end.

It sure feels like evil is winning the race right now and increasing its lead every day.

[quote]I recall Omarosa saying she saw Trump eating paper in the Oval Office. That's one way to avoid the Records Acts. Or maybe he was eating the blackmail evidence.

Nah it was just a burger wrapper

If the perfect poosie is rated 10. According to Donald in 2017-18, only Lady Lindzebelle poosie reached the highest possible ranking. Jeffrey had told me at the time mine was a 9.6. A former Miss Texas’ ranked only 8.3. So mine is pretty darn good. I made all that clear during the interview with Mr. Blanche.

Jen Shah, Real Housewives of SLC and Elizabeth Theranos Holmes have been leading the charge in an inmate freeze out of recently transferred Ghislaine to their Tx facility.

I guess the GQP pedos are hoping ol’ Ghiz gets a shiv stuck in her so they no longer have to be concerned with “loose ends”

Newsmax Host PANICS Over Trump's Next Move With Gross Ghislaine Maxwell Conspiracy

Irony Alert: RH whore and Stanfurd fraudster beat down sex trafficker.

The Rainbow is the New Black…coming soon to Dateline NBC—Lester Holt

Hmmm.. CNN new top story with Epstein's big gloomy face across it. House GOP demands DOJ share the Epstein Files with the House. Subpoena has been filed.

Comer Pyle only cares about kids before they’re born.

[quote]Newsmax Host PANICS Over Trump's Next Move With Gross Ghislaine Maxwell Conspiracy

Odds Greg Kelly was a visitor to Lolita Island goes up with every defense of Ghislaine

Per Wiki, Greg Kelly has two children. Are either of them girls? Also Wiki:

[quote]In January–February 2012 Kelly was investigated by the Manhattan District Attorney's office upon an accusation of rape. After an investigation, the District Attorney issued a letter stating that under New York state criminal law, the incident did not constitute a crime. Kelly returned to work February 13, 2012. On June 9, 2014, Kelly's accuser spoke publicly for the first time about her 2012 allegations against Kelly. Kelly is a friend of Donald Trump.

So the House yokels are issuing subpoenas to the Clintons, who will show up because they respect the rule of law.

But GQP shitheads like Gym Jordan can just ignore subpoenas issued by the 1/6 committee...with zero consequences.

Trump's being BFF with him in the past is a concern for the 20-ish percent MAGA voters. The rest are outright disgusted.

Dear Bill,

Please say that you saw Trump there.

Sincerely, The World

Newsweek reported a Salt Lake City Tribune piece that Senate President J. Stuart Adams suggested that the Utah Legislature change the law that would change the child rape laws.

"Previously, as adults, 18-year-old high school students who had sex with a 13-year-old could face a charge of child rape, a first-degree felony," said the Tribune. "A conviction on that charge generally requires registration as a sex offender, while a conviction on the newly created lesser charge does not."

The law was changed to offer a new option for prosecutors dealing with 13-year-old victims of child rape.

"Seventeen-year-olds who have sex with 13-year-olds face a third-degree felony charge of unlawful sexual activity; the new law now allows prosecutors to file that same charge against an 18-year-old — if they are an enrolled high school student," said the report.

Check his browsing history.

Republiqans support rape.

This is probably really sick, so only on DL can I post this query....or, I don't know, just a thought that occurs to me.

It has to do with the possible/probably guilt of Dump vs Bill Clinton.

I can see Clinton maybe giving in to being massaged by a 16 or 17 year old, maybe he lets her jack him off. I can imagine her even willing -it's an ex-POTUS. He's kind of charming. Yes - its still statutory rape and shouldn't have happened. But it isn't necessarily an experience that would traumatize the girl.

But then you have a 15 or 14 or even 13 year-old not only being forcibly raped by Fat Orange Pig, but he beats her around and he smells bad and he's just fucking gross and disgusting!

And the 15 year old runs into the 17 year old "Hey, at least you got Bill Clinton. Did you see that fucking monster I had to touch?"

I mean, there's a difference in horrific. Does this occur to anybody else?

Rape my babies!

The fix is in. Maxwell knew if she played she'd start getting benefits and payback.

She never mentioned Trump.

So they'll "release" the bullshit from her interviews as if it's the last word on the subject, hide/destroy the older evidence, and that's the end of it.

I hate living in Nazi Germany.

Maxwell's "And now I sing in a Trump-approved manner for my freedom" recent interview is one thing. The total contents of the Epstein files are quite another.

I think the group of evildoers gathering tonight for the “strategy meeting” are planning lumpy’s resignation.

Oooh yes. They are all meeting at VP Jaydine's house for dinner and Epstein is a main course on the conversational menu

What is the status of Dan Bongino now?

If there was nothing to hide, why would they need to brainstorm a "strategy"?

Wii Usha be serving samosas?

How do all of the subpoenas issued by the House Oversight Committee jibe with Trump's wish to move on?

The subpoenaed should issue a joint statement about how much they are looking forward to testifying about everything they know about Trump and Epstein.

Top Trump officials will be meeting at JD Vance's home tonight to discuss Epstein strategy. They should just let him crash and burn.

They got project 2025 rammed through. Trump is useless to them now. They'll take that millstone off of their necks well before the midterms

Which one(s) will be Trump's spy?

Trump should just issue an executive order lowering the age of consent to 10, effective retroactively back to infinity. Problem solved. The Project 2025 crowd will be thrilled as child marriage is a cherished tradition of theirs.

Maxwell said Trump didn't do anything wrong. Of course she did, she doesn't want to die.

Well yeah. Convicted felons will stand and swear on a Bible that fire is wet and water is dry, if they think it'll get them out of prison. Her "testimony" under this kind of duress is worthless.

She's an honest, upstanding Christian woman framed by the Deep State!

R191 You're painting an amazing picture. Its like the Harper Valley PTA is running that 'prison'.

Convicted sex trafficker and perjurer says Trump "had never done anything in her presence that would have caused concern."

Ghislaine’s definition of concern is troubling.

We're there. When someone as monstrous as Maxwell can get off...

No, R205. There may be a difference in degree but not in kind.

If Clinton were massaged by a minor he still committed a crime, and a disgusting one.

His past gross behavior makes me think he wouldn't spill on Trump no matter what he may know. After all, He and Hillary were at Trump's wedding. And Ghislaine Maxwell was at Chelsea's wedding. A sex trafficker/groomer/pedo enabler at his own daughter's wedding. There's no way he didn't know what Maxwell was up to. I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary were aware of it too.

There's no evidence Clinton was ever "massaged by a minor"

The only "evidence" anyone was ever able produce was footage of him being massaged by a grown woman, who said nothing untoward happened.

This pig raped the girls with Epstein. Almost 1000 estimated rape victims. She never denied it and never begged forgiveness.

I can see Bill Clinton being self-indulgent enough to walk into an Epstein honeytrap, but that not only wouldn't let Trump off the hook but amp up the suspicion that Epstein/Maxwell were running a kompromat operation for Mossad and who knows what else. In which case Trump putting her in a loosely secured facility and teasing a pardon is all the more sinister.

81% of Americans believe that Trump is the person responsible for hidiing info regarding the Epstein case.

Bill Clinton didn't need to pay for pussy. Women's panties would fly off whenever he was near.

Trump OTOH is grotesque and micropenised. He only got laid by paying for it.

"After all, He and Hillary were at Trump's wedding. And Ghislaine Maxwell was at Chelsea's wedding. "

(could someone please show me how to format?)

One of the less covered stories over the years was Trump's obsession with getting invited to Chelsea Clinton's wedding. (He invited Hillary and Bill to HIS wedding, after all). At the time, there were a couple blurbs about Trump desperately calling around trying to get an invite or even be someone's 'plus-one'. I wonder if he called Ghislaine and asked if he could go with her or if she knew anyone; And this was 2010, so it would have been after his supposed falling-out with Epstein.

This Clinton snub is what's credited for Trump so viciously going after Hillary during the 2016 Presidential campaign; it didn't get close the amount of attention as the Obama joke at the 2012 Correspondents' Dinner.

[quote] just issue an executive order lowering the age of consent to 10, effective retroactively back to infinity. Problem solved.

R218

Wasn’t Ivanka at Chelsea’s wedding?

Gilly wasn’t just a trafficker, she was all in on the kiddy diddling herself.

R216: I've always believed they'd jettison him as soon as possible. With even MAGA's expressing frustration over Epstein handling, he's no longer useful.

He's never been useful just a large waste of space.

He didn't win. He wasn't shot. He's on the list!

Shouldn’t Alan Dershowitz be explaining his role in the Jeffery Epstein saga? Rather, he is trying to pursue suing a pierogi vendor on Martha’s Vineyard.

DUMP made a brief announcement about the shootings at the military base in Georgia. He was more Orange than usual and appeared to be subdued/sedated. I believe the Epstein saga is pushing him closer to the edge - after all, he was on the roof of the WH yesterday spazzng out about who knows what.

He has lost control of the narrative and is flailing which could lead to a situation that could have him removed but at a steep cost. He's THAT crazy.

Throw a banana peel under his foot!

Vance and his cohorts are meeting tonight about the Epstein situation. Nah, they're probably discussing Trump and how to make it look like an accident.

Vance is now denying the meeting LOL.

During pillow talk, wonder what Yam Tits has told Miss Lindzebelle about his activities related to Jeffery Epstein furnishing him young poosie?

I hope the Vance meeting is like the ending of Network, when the execs were developing a plan to get rid of Howard Beale.

[quote]“Don’t patronize anti-semites who refuse to sell to Jewish Zionists,” the [Dershowitz] added. “Fight back against bigotry.”

[quote]While Miskevich said they don’t wish to debate Dershowitz about Israel, they clarified they are also Jewish and even have members of their immediate family living in Israel.

Oops

Trump is all washed up and knows it. His main goal now is to distract from his salacious lifestyle. Too late now, Donald Dumbfuck. Just a matter of time for proof to be released. I'm surprised he hasn't announced UFOs are coming to get us.

Punish the perverts from the top down. Starting with Trump and no, Donald you are not immune.

Americans have become too lax. We have power, show it, be heard.

This phase of denial is interesting until a bomb drops. The administration is just winging it with no plan. Who is actually in charge? Stephen Miller? Trump is becoming universally hated.

As he should be, hard to fathom why it took so long. He's unfit and leaves his job for everyone else to do. Scary shit.

[quote] Trump is becoming universally hated.

If only.

There will be ketchup thrown tonight.

Put a diaper on the big baby. Oh, wait, there already.

Trump is a pervert. Release the proof! Americans can then Mussolini him which is what he deserves. I can see him crying and begging. Yes, please.

Trump = Rape

Even if KKKoch, Thiel and whoever manage to jettison the orange turd, he won't go quietly.

Nope. He will still say and do dumb shit. He will meddle in every election, running his mouth non stop.

We thought the piece of shit would finally shut the fuck up and go away once Biden was elected, but the media refused to ignore him. They won't ignore him until he's fucking dead and buried for at least another thirty goddam years

So if KKKoch, Thiel and the broligarchs think they can just shove that fat, disgusting pile of puke aside and he'll just shut up and go away, good luck with that.

That and the qult will never follow the black hole of humanity that is Jimmy Hamel.

The only way Turd goes away is in a coffin R256.

[quote]WASHINGTON, Aug 6 (Reuters) - A dinner for senior administration officials at Vice President JD Vance's residence to discuss topics including the Trump administration's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case has been canceled after news of it leaked, a source familiar with the matter said.

[quote]A spokesman for Vance said the dinner, first reported by CNN, had not been planned.

"We were just going to serve drinks and hors d'oeuvres, not dinner!"

Donny probably got wind of the meeting being planned without him and got suspicious.

Womp fucking womp!

Buy your own goddamn dinner, losers!

Not the most important but I hope one of the fallouts from all this is the ruination of Kash Patel among all his conspiracy cronies. #koverupkash

No meals, deals or heels R258! They were just going to like discuss if other people exist.

HA HA HA HA HA.... you know Trump found out about Vance stealth-organizing a "secret Epstein damage control" dinner and he beat Vance like a rented mule.

Those people can't keep a secret if you paid them $10M to try.

Some of Epstein's accusers are getting louder about it and not interested in being under-rug-swept.

The Daily Beast podcast this week has an interview with a woman who was Epstein’s girlfriend for several months. She was a model with Elite, had been in the SI swimsuit issue. (She was absolutely scathing about the predators in the modeling world.) She was mid-20s when she met Epstein so past his target age; she was more like his public girlfriend and said he was very interesting to talk with unlike the other men she met. She wouldn’t name names but after a few months she told him to get psychiatric help and dropped him.

Also she met Trump several times with him and the last time he started groping her AS he talked with Epstein, right in front of him, she froze like, how can this be happening? and Epstein didn’t say a thing. Then in the taxi going home he berated her, how could you let him do that to you! She didn’t know; she had no problem telling eg, Vogue photographers to piss off but this time she was just paralyzed.

Thanks, R264. I hope more of this comes to light and Dump & Co. continue to manipulate both the evidence and the story.

This isn't going away. It's too salacious and people who run news sites say that sexual abuse stories always get the most clicks by a mile. Now you have Trump (another click magnet) and an underage sex scandal and it's clicktopia for the papers

[QUOTE]after a few months she told him to get psychiatric help and dropped him.

R264 - Did she say specifically what led her to do this? Did he reveal the underage girls to her or was there other behavior or thoughts he expressed to her that were troubling?

As a grown ass woman, she was probably creeped out by him.

She may not have known about the under age girls, but given his “vibe” and misshapen dick, she just could not abide.

No she really didn’t get into specifics. She just said he was sick and twisted and when she told him that (as she told him not to call her again) I think she said he looked stricken. I can’t remember, listen to the podcast! Weirdly, Trump sent her a postcard of Mar A Lago months later, like it never happened.

The interview was not very specific, like she hadn’t really thought about what she was going to say and also it was 20 years ago and a relatively short period of time. It didn’t even sound like they had sex. They hung out at his place and went for long walks.

+ Actually the latest podcast is with Michael Wolff who spent a lot of time interviewing him. Also very interesting. One thing he is certain of, Epstein wasn’t blackmailing anyone over the underage sex. I can believe that. If he had been, he wouldn’t have been about to host all those dinners with movers and shakers. He collected those people as a marker of success—who you can get on the phone is the highest form of power—money was just a means to get to that position.

Vance is looking pretty disheveled, unwashed, and worried in this picture. Didn't he learn to take quick showers daily in the Marine Corps?

"Canceled."

He learned how to douche in the Marines. There's a difference.

This is interesting

(Gotta read the book this is take from - "Relentless Pursuit: My Fight for the Victims of Jeffrey Epstein")

Anyone who thinks that the ridiculousness will end with Trump...............

And what precisely is the point you think you have, R276?

Really, R276?

We don’t hand out awards for “Most Idiotic Posts”, but thanks for playing R276.

I'd be a lot more concerned if it was Alan Dershowitz's hideaway.

🚨Trump’s TWISTED Princess Diana Plot FINALLY EXPOSED!!

Check out this substack. It ties Epstein to Russia, with Tump somewhere in the middle...

R282 it's certainly not farfetched to believe the Russians would try to infiltrate and get involved with the Epstein enterprise. Money Laundering, trafficking, it's what they do. Very little daylight between the Russian mobsters, the oligarchs, and the Russian government.

We get all our money from Russia!

R282 is that Peter Jukes the British dramatist? Lively reading but I’m not sure he has any real intel.

JD Vance LETS IT SLIP in Shocking Epstein Answer

I want to punch Jaydine in his fat face

[quote] I want to punch Jaydine in his fat face.

Get in line.

I'm not buying the proposition that Epstein and Maxwell did what they did just for the hell of it. There are distinct parallels between Epstein and Stephen Ward, the British osteopath who trafficked teenaged girls to politicians and celebrities in the 1960s and got mixed up in Soviet honeytrap operations.

R289 Agree. There is way too much of a paper trail out there. Craig Unger has done a lot of work on it, check out his Bluesky.

If anything Epstein was probably the agent who set up oligarchs for the Russian government or who set them up for other oligarchs to blackmail. Epstein would supply the girls, the kinks and the photos or videos. He was also probably a money launderer. Big time. And that would involve the Russian mob.

This just triggered something for me. Not for the squeamish. If some of the men were into rape, or hurting women, or if something happened to some girl and they had t o get rid of her, all of those things were possibilities too. I think we need to take the blinders off. it wasn't just "massages" or missionary sex and blow jobs. I would bet you some of those girls got hurt or worse. This is a truly sordid mess and Trump is up to his neck in it. He was very likely trafficking girls.

The nastiest stuff is being suppresed, you can be sure of that. We still know what a pervert you are, Donald.

Interesting piece of news from last evening. Judge Tanya Chutkan, Black and female and already hated by Trump, has been assigned to the House FOIA (Freedom of information act) lawsuit to release the full Epstein files.

Correction: the lawsuit above was filed by the DFF (Democracy Forward Foundation). Separate from the US House.

His Vince Fosters?

Thing is ... a majority of [italic]Republican[/italic] voters suspect there's some withholding/cover-up going on, the rest of us know it.

Was it this tread or a different one where someone was asking how Melania got her "Einstein Visa"?

Here's (the beginning of) the answer

Melania...

Was Paolo Zampolli Melania's pimp?

[quote]Was Paolo Zampolli Melania's pimp?

Does the Pope shit in the woods?

[quote] Was Paolo Zampolli Melania's pimp?

Apparently

She's a hooker with a heart of gold!

She's a hooker with a heart of cold. R303

Eye ame famous arkeeteck, gay boys!

Regrettably, I think this the case.

Oh, stop. He wasn't a pimp, pimp. He was one of her "uncles from Slovenia...her father's close friends. (Her father was a gangster.)

Melania came to the U.S. on an Epstein Visa.

Lol. Horseshit, r306. Go look at the comments sections on local newspapers and their Facebook pages. It's all Epstein all the time. And silence by Magats

[quote] And silence by Magats

Isn't that silence telling? We can only hope for a crashed economy.

[QUOTE](Her father was a gangster.)

Even worse, he was a Communist party member and a used car salesman. An actua,l real communist, not a "communist" as mouth-breathing MAGAts think of communist when they hurl it as an insult at anyone they disagree with or dislike.

I already have R306 as a blocked TROLL so that tracks.

A recent poll indicates only 47% of Trump voters would vote for him again if he were implicated in Epstein's crimes.

R312 is quite the misguided snowflake if he blocked me, a Biden contributor in 2020 & 2024, a Harris contributor in 2024, & a proud protester at a local No Kings rally in 2025.

Grok:

[quote] Based on media monitoring from sources like Media Matters and CNN (verified via site browses), Fox News mentioned Sydney Sweeney ~62 times (85 mins coverage) vs. Jeffrey Epstein ~14 times (3 mins) from July 28-31, 2025. Full July-Aug data shows Sweeney surging to 700+ mentions in early Aug amid ad controversy, far outpacing Epstein's ~50-100 total mentions focused in July. Fox appears to prioritize cultural stories over Epstein updates.

Join the club, R314. Through the miracle of insane "logic" I'm a far-right loon, who voted Clinton-Biden-Obama.

I don't know to what extent Trump can squelch is role in the Epstein mess, but too much spillage seems to be coming out of the sides, i.e., more information about Trump Modeling, ties to Casablancas, the sleaziness of some modeling operations, Melania's background, and more.

If I was Melania, I'd be lying extra low. She's up to her overly tightened eyes in this mess

How much lower can Melania actually lie?

I think the media and those actively pressuring for the release of the Grand Jury stuff or the files or whatever, ought to approach this from another angle. Focus on the girls. The victims. Not the johns. Focus on how terrible their lives were. Talk about what was done to them. What we need is some graphic details. Illustrate why it's important. Explicitly define what it means to be trafficked.

Does she ever get up, R318?

Or focus on the money. Did Epstein and Trump do deals together?

R322 the money is important, but I think today's audiences are used to Trump doing deals and the money angles, so I would focus primarily on salacious stuff and also add the money in to show the utter corruption.

The man won after instigating a bloody insurrection to overturn a legitimate election. Our only possible salvation is a collapsed economy.

R320, after what happened to Virginia and the death threats that the other accusers received, I'd keep my head down too

Not all of them are keeping their heads down:

Reps. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.) and Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) are planning to bring survivors of abuse by convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and his convicted co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell to the Capitol.

Khanna and Massie announced the survivors will join them at a press conference the morning of Sept. 3, the day the House returns from August recess.

Several of the survivors will speak publicly about their abuse for the first time.

Damn. Brave women.

[quote]A recent poll indicates only 47% of Trump voters would vote for him again if he were implicated in Epstein's crimes.

But, they will all vote straight Republican in the midterms, guaranteeing his power continues.

Trump's seizing of DC will assure that the women will not be allowed in the city or will be arrested the moment they set foot in it.

They didn't show up in 2022, hence the failed "red wave"

Enough of them showed up to take the House back though.

[quote] A recent poll indicates only 47% of Trump voters would vote for him again if he were implicated in Epstein's crimes.

I don't believe them.

DUMP had a modeling agency (or some other such racket) brimming with nubile girls and Epstein/Maxwell were somehow associated with that operation. It has been mentioned they are sure trying as hard as hell to keep the Epstein stuff tamped down so there must be something extremely harmful to DUMP. It may be these modeling/pageants he oversaw were a way of trafficking/transporting young girls to various parts of the globe based on requests. I doubt Epstein had an endless desire for young girls to 'rub one out' for him on a constant basis.

The Project 2025 advocates are full steam ahead to destroy/wreck everything so there's nothing to loose (but everything to gain!) by getting the Epstein dirt out NOW!

Dump is in an unprecedented state of panic and fear of his own base. Support for the release of the ENTIRE FILE has only increased across all voting segments. It's also increasingly clear that the Maxwell shakedown didn't go as planned. If the Maxwell DOJ plan had worked, Dump and his media megaphones would be broadcasting Dump's innocence and he'd selling fake gold leaf editions of the transcript from that meeting. But that aren't and it is very clear they don't know what to do... hence all the fake dramas around the National Guard and various other bullshit "look over here" stunts they've pulled. They are all very worried about the Epstein files because they know he wouldn't survive their release. This is further complicated by the fact that the intelligence agencies of hostile and not so hostile foreign countries are in possession of most or all of the incriminating information on Dump, so they can't release a fake report that scrubs Dump out of it. He's cooked.. it's a matter of time. DOGE had unfettered access to all the governments data including the DOJ, so it could be that any number of people to weaponize this information.

Btw, Hunter Biden isn't the first one to suggest Dump met Melania via Epstein. That rumor was around even before the addled old fool ran for office in 2016

[quote] Dump is in an unprecedented state of panic and fear of his own base.

Fox isn't even covering this story.

r336, it's breaking through even though FOX and the right wing media are ignoring or downplaying it.

R336 - Fox (and other RW media) don't need to cover it - it's all over the web in most every site/forum and the hard facts (such as they are) get broadcast on a continuing basis. Many don't pick up on it (or care) but it will ramp up as we approach the return of the House/Congress and Ro Konna and that Massie guy plan to have a news conference w/Epstein victims on the 3rd. Maybe that's why DUMP is trying to lock down DC - to squelch any type of info being disseminated from within the city. If any protests of any kind flare up he will then amp up the heat and give orders to 'shoot to kill' which will blow the lid off everything. It was discussed on Deadline: Whitehouse about how would those young soldiers/National Guard would react to shooting their fellow citizens protesting who are just voicing their First Amendment rights. My scenario may be a bit extreme, but considering the instigator, it's not that far off. All this shit is happening because the price of 'EGGS' was too high for the MAGA LugNuts. The price of our freedom is far more costly - are we willing to pay the price to keep it?

It's kinda scary right now, but I'm more MAD than scared since everything 'seems' normal, but around the edges things are getting Hinky - Fast!

Alas, he is a state rep, not a member of Congress.

I was molested...by a Republican.

R335 I know American Kompromat author Craig Unger has written about Epstein's connection to Melania and Dump. I couldn't find a quick link, but this came up....(I didn't know Nicki Swift was still around).

Ghislaine Maxwell Cleared To LEAVE PRISON For Work Release

I read either on Twitter or Bluesky that Maxwell has been seen in town. Probably not verified.

It'll be interesting to see if anything comes out about Melania's alleged sex work. I have no doubt she "dated" older men to get the rent paid (a roommate said as much), but if it comes out that she was trafficked here for prostitution on an Einstein visa, that would be too delicious. I remember reading in 2016 that a blogger from Rhode Island wrote essentially that and was successfully sued by the Trumps.

Those softcore photo shoots of Melania scream sex worker, but she might have been more of a serial kept woman. For all we know Trump may not even have been her first husband. Maybe she paid a commission to the pimpy guy that "introduced" her to Donald.

R339 he could hold his breath all day and still not button that jacket.

In the 1990s, beauties from the former Soviet Union were flooding the New York market. Books and articles have been written about this era and the rampant exploitation of these women.

Zampolli told me that there were so many gorgeous photogenic women looking for work that the value fell and pretty soon they were doing other things, things that maybe weren’t supposed to be captured on camera. He doesn’t deny this was true—although he has never included Melania in this category.

“At the time, once a month, I would have some guy calling me, putting pressure on me, saying his girlfriend should’ve been a model. And most of them, they were from Eastern European countries, because they had a visa problem. And you know, the girls would be beautiful. But they’re not model material, you understand. It’s a very different thing, is to be model material, or to be a girl you take out, or do other things. Okay. And in the nineties, New York was overflowing with these—those things—you might say. But this is not what happened in model agencies. Because in model agencies, we wanted to make money left and right.”

...Zampolli now holds a Trump appointment as “special envoy to Italy.” Melania is America’s mostly absent First Lady. And Jeffrey Epstein’s ghost haunts them all, but chained in a vault of 100,000 pages of FBI files that, we now know, a thousand agents were detailed to flag for mentions of Trump. We don’t know what’s in them, and the not knowing threatens to crack the MAGA coalition.

One thing is certain: Epstein was a capo in the global community of men who profited off the commodification and exploitation of Eastern European women. Much reporting exists indicating he was one of the most prolific movers of women out of Eastern Europe through New York. It is not beyond the realm of possibility that, through his involvement with that community, Epstein met Melania Knauss before she met Donald.

R343, Work Release? I've never heard of work release in the federal prison system. They don't even have parole or early release for good behavior

[quote] They don't even have ... early release for good behavior

I don't believe that's the case. My understanding is that a 15% (or so) reduction of a convict's prison time is built into the system for presumed good behavior.

Didn't Epstein get work release with that sweetheart deal?

Like I've said, Ghislaine will spend the rest of her life looking over her back.

R347, a while ago, before this recent era of Trump, I went through a phase where I was reading a lot of tell all books and I can recall at least two that were focused on the world of modeling. I wish I could remember the names. Maybe back in the late 90's?

Bump

Jizzy is out on work release. She'll escape and never be heard from again.

[quote]She'll escape and never be heard from again.

That's what it will *look* like, r354.

Don't worry, I'll let her stay at Mar-a-Lago. She can read all those top secret documents when she's using the shitter

The fact that Todd LaBlanche let her out on “work release” suggests to me:

1. That TACO’s fingerprints are all over - and deeply embedded in - the Epstein files;

2. That she refused to deny it when questioned by La Blanche in Florida; and

3. That she is planning to (be) disappeared, before anyone in Congress can question her further ?

And its 15 minutes are over. No one is talking about the Epstein files or Trump being in them anymore.

Pew Research Center:

Seven-in-ten Americans disapprove of the Trump administration’s handling of information related to the investigation into Jeffrey Epstein, while 25% approve.

Most Americans also distrust what the administration is saying about the Epstein issue: 63% say they have little or no trust in what the administration is saying.

No R358, it's just the end of summer and people are vacationing and getting ready for school to start. Plus the House is on recess. It'll all start back up with a vengeance in September.

[quote] And its 15 minutes are over. No one is talking about the Epstein files or Trump being in them anymore.

Remember the example of the Afghanistan withdrawal. People stopped talking about it, but Biden's approval ratings from his first 6 months never recovered.

Really, R358? Nice try, bitch.

Lol.. every newspaper article comment section on Trump's latest fuck ups is is littered with Epstein comments and memes. It's not close to over.

People *love* prurient. This isn't going away.

Someone forgot to tell Melania to keep it of the press.

r362 I really hope they do, but if you notice no major news is covering it any more, No mention of Maxwell, her move to minimum security, the denial of what is in the files...none of it anymore. They have moved on as if they were told to stop talking about it.

R358 - dream on, sweetie.

No one is even thinking about it!

I've had Nicolle Wallace on and she's been talking about Epstein the entire show. She even had Gloria Allred on with one of his victims. But keep telling us this is not being covered R366.

R369, Nicolle blanketed her SECOND hour with Epstein coverage. And that MSNBC is covering the story doesn't mean that it still has traction elsewhere.

[quote] but if you notice no major news is covering it any more

I was responding to this statement R370. MSNBC is not major news?

Allred had her patented *look*.

Gloria Allred is the world's biggest ambulance chaser, but if that old bitch gives Trump some heartburn then I'm Team Allred.

[quote] MSNBC is not major news?

I faithfully watch Nicolle's show - not the others, post-election - but I'm not unaware of the channel's low (& diminishing) ratings & am under no illusion that it captures the prevailing thinking beyond its progressive audience.

Bible Study???

There is also not much new to report about Epstein-the House is recessed, DOJ is sitting on the files, and Trump is still desperately changing the subject. Just because it's not 24/7 at the moment doesn't mean people aren't still wanting to know the truth

R366 is asleep at the wheel, again.

[quote]but if you notice no major news is covering it any more

Just did a Google search. The BBC, The Guardian, ABC News, The NY Times, Newsweek, The Hill, CNN, MSNBC, USA Today, Slate, The Telegraph, Rolling Stone and assorted others have all done Epstein stories the last 24 hours.

Jizz is gonna get suicided.

It will be interesting to see what happens as hurricane season approaches, given the possibilities of reduced storm alerts, aid.

[quote] Brina Knauss, international DJ born 39 minutes from Melania’s hometown when Melania was 15. Her origin story is sparse but she entered the international music scene out of almost nowhere. Knauss (Knavs) is Melania’s maiden name.

She's her sister, ouch, she's her daughter, ouch, she's her...

R380 There's one lurking in the south Atlantic now.

It's only a matter of time r383. I trust Mother Nature to make things right and she has a BEAUTIFUL opportunity to do so now. Too bad some people will die. Their surviving relatives will get paper towels and be grateful. Unless a black person got more paper towels.

R382 When your sister is your aunt, you suddenly become very relatable to MAGA.

[quote] Gloria Allred is the world's biggest ambulance chaser…

She’ll have to try even harder to keep up with Benjamin Crump.

R383, I got curious — that one will soon swing clockwise out to sea.

Damn r381, she does look like a Melania/Epstein lovechild. Or at least what a Melania kid would look like without the weird Trump baby chin and butthole lips

I think the closest thing on paper there is as evidence of her being a call girl is this, from her first roommate in New York. How many dinner dates a month covered the rent?

[QUOTE]Zampolli set her up with a roommate, a photographer named Matthew Atanian. Unlike many twenty-somethings, who come to New York City with an unquenchable lust for experience, Melania, according to Atanian, had little interest in nightlife or making friends. When she went out, it seemed to be with older men, only for dinner, and she always came home before her roommate had gone out, he says.

And then there's this.

[QUOTE]But, according to Atanian, Melania was getting only second-and third-tier modeling work, and, at age 26, time was running out. Atanian, then shooting for Marie Claire, recalls her asking him to help her get in the magazine. He sensed it was hopeless. “She was always kind of a stiff person. That’s why she wasn’t a successful model, because she couldn’t move.”

She's autistic as hell. Instead of train schedules, it's golddigging and fashion magazines

And fucking. I wonder if she's akward in bed too? She seems like she'd just lie there, posing and stick a pinky out when she blew you.

She's a fucking WHORE!

[quote]"That’s why she wasn’t a successful model, because she couldn’t move.”

Too much work.

Nearly Half Of Republicans Say They’d Support Trump If He Were A Sex Offender

Only half? Suuuuuuuuuure. More like 100%.

"Russia, if you're listening, release the Epstein Files."

TIA

Maybe Trump‘s hosting Putin in such a fawning way, had much to do with Putin‘s own files concerning Trump and Epstein. No demands were placed on Putin concerning Ukraine.

I suspect you are right.

I also suspect the so called “pee pee” tapes are shorthand for much deeper dirt Putin (and possibly others) have on Taco.

Did you notice how at the post meeting, (so-called ) news conference, Taco had the same Beta-sounding, whiney voice he displayed at his last Putin “summit”? (That plaintive “I don’t know why he would” tone.)

He [italic] clearly [/italic] wants Putin to be “friendly” to him for some God-forsaken reason.

R398, there’s no meaningful blackmail going on here. That implies that Trump might do the right thing if Putin wasn’t pressuring him. Does that seem credible? Not to me. Trump doesn’t care about Ukraine or any other country. All he cares about is being friends with someone as great as Putin. That’s the ultimate for him. Putin is insanely wealthy, ruthless, powerful, and world-famous. And he “loves” Trump. That is what Trump wants.

[quote]That is what Trump wants.

But he also preposterously wants the Nobel Peace Prize, and evidently thinks it's a possibility. That's quite the Dupont Circle to Red Square with Putin's friendship.

I agree with you R399. After all this time, people still believe that Trump and the Republicans have to be blackmailed to be amoral, venal, despicable thugs? It's who they are.

R401 and others. I also agree. It's like when Dump was capitulating to Putin throughout his first term. People kept questioning "What does Putin have on him?". Like the Pee Tape or some other form of blackmail. The answer was too simple and obvious for most to conceive: The Presidency! Putin arranged for him to have the job, and as long as he did everything Putin wanted, he could keep the job.

That was it!

Trump’s Ghislaine Plan BLOWS UP as Prisons REVOLT

Ii am applying for conjugal visits. I need someone who is single, has wealth, is sexually astute, and knows great poosie when he sees it. Pam Bondi, get me Lindsey G. or I will name names.

r398, Donald's got big daddy issues. Putin may be younger than him but he clearly longs for his attemtion and approval. Mary Trump says Donald's father Fred was a major league sociopath who's responsible for making Donald what he is today.

And yet he finally has the job now, R402, and he’s still capitulating.

So, [italic] something[/italic], is keeping him in line.

R406 he is Putin's boy. You don't turn on Putin. Why should he? He's getting everything he wants. He is rich, he is POTUS, and gets so much attention it's intoxicating. Trump has been a supporter of all things RUssian for decades. He is one of them. He was a money launderer for them. He was involved in trafficking young women. He is one of Putin's guys. Always has been. Worked his way up. Back in the day when the Oligarchs bailed him out financially, they bought him. It's not about blackmail. He is totally flattered and totally complicit. He is not loyal to the United States. And he is too stupid to appreciate the power he could have as POTUS. Instead he interprets that power as being a bully and chasing after his "enemies." To call him Putin's "useful idiot" is an understatement.

Let me also add that while he is POTUS he cannot be prosecuted, he has airplanes and servants and an entire army at his disposal, etc. Life is good if your Donald J. Turmp.

[quote]he has airplanes and servants and an entire army at his disposal

Living like a king.

He said this with reference to Trump’s campaign promises to his MAGAt base, but read between the lines was clearly implied, IMO.

The whole Putin summit was created very much on the fly, and very much for the express purpose of getting Epstein off the front pages. For a few days it's worked because Dump made such a colossal ass of himself in a ghastly fellation of the killer Putin and came away with nothing but egg on his face.

However the Epstein thing is far far from over....

[quote] However the Epstein thing is far far from over....

Yup, the House is on recess, DOJ has released nothing, and it's the end of summer and everyone is vacationing or getting the kids back to school. Epstein will come roaring back come September.

Which means Dump will probably nuke Chicago as a distraction.

Salacious sells.

Well, this is interesting, to say the least. He was allowed to just leave the country? Oh. Would he have diplomatic immunity? If not, I'm sure it will be granted retroactively.

[QUOTE]An Israeli government cybersecurity official was reportedly arrested recently by Las Vegas police and other authorities in Nevada who were conducting an undercover investigation aimed at online users seeking to sexually prey on children.

[QUOTE]Tom Artiom Alexandrovich, 38, faces felony charges of luring a child with a computer for a sex act, alongside several other suspects who were apprehended during the two-week sting operation, the Las Vegas metropolitan police department said in a statement published on Friday. He has since been released from custody on $10,000 bail after an initial court appearance, records show, and returned to Israel.

[QUOTE]“Israeli officials downplayed the incident, saying it carried ‘no political implications’ and was resolved quickly,” Ynet reported, without naming Alexandrovich or mentioning he had been arrested in connection with a felony charge leveled against him by Nevada law enforcement officials. “The reasons for the questioning remain unclear but may relate to the employee’s conduct.”

It's to be hoped that the Russian memo featured @ R410 is widely and constantly referred to. "Corresponding obligations", indeed. In this light, Putin's gleeful last line - "Next time, in Moscow!" - sounded like an order. So let's see how long it is before Trumpy respects this latest obligation.

The Daily Telegraph wrote last week that a prisoner at Bryan said she was “disgusted” by Maxwell’s transfer there, in a comment provided to the publication through the inmate’s husband. Since that comment was published, prison officials pulled that inmate, Julie Howell, out of a puppy-training class in the camp then transferred her out of the facility, according to her lawyer. Howell is now at a federal detention center in Houston, the lawyer and Bureau of Prisons records say.

“Nobody’s going to say anything about Ghislaine Maxwell now, are you kidding?” Howell’s lawyer Patrick McLain said to CNN on Thursday.

Everything you wrote, R407. Trump wants to be American Putin — worshipped and feared and in control of all — so badly, the thought would give him erections were he still capable of them. He is in awe of Putin and considers him a most personal role model. Further the complex web of how Russia is so much further enmeshed with Trump’s wealth — and debt — than is commonly known.

That’s really what has long been behind this. There is no ultimate-blackmail-weapon “pee tape” … and there never needed to be.

Why can't we call it a piss tape?

If it exists, that's what it is. A piss tape.

R411 Putin needed the photo op . He is in trouble. The truth is Russia is on the brink of being a failed state. The Russian economy is shit. His poorly thought out invasion has exposed the antiquated weapons and the incompetent leadership of his military. He has to rely on North Korean soldiers, Iran for his military equipment and China for financing. And frankly, China is over it. Xi has problems of his own, and the one thing China is 100% about is stability. Unlike Putin who has robbed and killed his way to being the wealthiest man on the planet. His delusions of grandeur include reconstituting the old Soviet Union, but he will definitely not get acquiescence from the former countries who a were part of it. Ukraine is the wealthiest and most stable. He will see it turn to ash before he gives up any part of it.

Putin isn't blackmailing Trump at ALL! He's not blackmailing the GOP either! And most of all, he's not blackmailing ME either! I just fell in love with the Donald completely naturally!

So THERE!

Jack Smith said he knew what Trump did with the documents. He also submitted this in the SCOTUS case over presidential immunity. He would not use these as examples to the Supreme Court if he didn’t already know.

Trump is all over the Epstein Files.

I hope Jack Smith has access to personal protection for himself and his family. These ar e some dirty vicious rotten POS people.

Putin has videotape of Lindsey Graham and a male escort with Lindsay discussing his disgusting "Lady Bugs" that circle his butt hole. The escort ...just......can't. Lindsey is humiliated in more ways than one, and NOT humiliated in the way he paid for.

Weird how deafeningly silent all of the Qanons/zomg Biden sniffs hair assholes are about Trump and his incestous predilections are

Getting ready to announce that Bongino was just the coffee boy ?

Boingo getting cunt punted.

Womp womp.

[quote] It's not surprising that Trump began speaking about "getting into heaven" this morning. It could be a condition known as NARCISSISTIC MORTIFICATION, which is brought on by extreme fear.

[quote] Narcissistic Mortification is when a narcissist like Trump crosses over to a place where he sees visions of his own demise (thus 'getting into heaven'). Age and ill health play a role, but it's deeper than that.

[quote] What kind of extreme fear would bring it on? To a malignant narcissist, THE most extreme fear of all is ultimate irrevocable humiliation - like being exposed as a pedophile or being pedophile-friendly ... or fear of being exposed by whatever Putin has on him. And he's just faced off with both those things, and they're unresolved.

[quote] In more psychological terms, narcissistic mortification is when one with a rigidly grandiose pathology sees his sense of self as exposed, defective or inferior. It was coined by Freud in his book Moses and Monotheism. It's described there as deep injuries to ego/self, triggered by ONE'S OWN compulsiveness (aka his sins with Epstein) and ONE'S OWN weaknesses (aka his sins leading to obeisance to Putin). Grandiosity diminishes, leading to terror and disorientation (Bela, etc.).

[quote] There actually IS a wiki page for narcissistic mortification (which surprised me) and here's an interesting sentence from it, that I thought I'd echo here: Narcissistic Mortification is "the primitive terror of self-dissolution, triggered by the sudden exposure of one's sense of a defective self ... to a narcissist, it is death by embarrassment."

[quote]To a malignant narcissist, THE most extreme fear of all is ultimate irrevocable humiliation...

Which is why he's so pathetically thin-skinned when it comes to any criticism; and why he absolutely loves humiliating others - Zelenskyy in February, Biden always, 'Crooked Hillary', schoolyard put-down nicknames for many others. All in all, he's really quite a piece of work.

I think it was triggered not by what we consider important, like Ukraine or Epstein, but by what he is immediately concerned with. If he has physical problems, health issues, and it is pretty clear he does, and a real doctor has warned him that he must stop, or change, or suffer the consequences, add to this the obvious decline in his physical appearance, that would trigger concerns about mortality. IMO. And there is no way his dick works at this point. I'd safely bet he can barely pee with it. That would trigger him for sure because in his own mind he is still a player, a Lothario. You can see by the way he walks that he is failing.

People worry about the 2028 election? It's another manifestation of his concern with mortality. He thinks if he starts planning and talking about 2028, he will be alive to enjoy it. He cannot accept change that is clear.

[quote] And there is no way his dick works at this point. I'd safely bet he can barely pee with it.

Obviously, you’re not aware of my mouth skills when it comes to satisfying my President.

R429, I seriously doubt anything but a doctor feel good has seen him since they mistakenly saved his life from covid. And got fired anyway

R432, that was probably true until recently. When it comes to real, serious health problems he doesn't fool around . He probably has a nurse on call to take his blood pressure every day. Anyone seeing how swollen his feet and legs are would insist he get checked out by a real doctor. Trump wants to live forever. He will deal with the Dr. Feelgoods as long as he isn't in danger. But I think he gets real when he develops problems. And remember, there are a lot of people invested in him staying alive as long as possible so t hey can perpetuate the fiction that he is sane and sharp. His chief of staff looks like the kind of mother hen who will make sure he gets the kind of attention he needs to keep going. This White House is much different than the 2017 WH. It seems like a tighter, more professional operation. Part of that comes from keeping him in check.

But Dr. Ronny (R, *hic*) told us Trump would live more than 200 years.

Tell me more about this “narcissistic mortality” thing. It’s very curios.

Also, aren’t we ALL afraid to die of shame for something stupid/drunken/irresponsible we’ve done in The past?

Never look back, r436.

Don't I know it, r437.

Pass the salt.

Adam Klasfeld:

Trump's DOJ STRIKES OUT — zero for three — in all of their requests to unseal Epstein-related grand jury records, in a ruling blasting feds for seeking a "diversion" rather than unseal the files at their disposal.

Judge Berman:

"The information contained in the Epstein grand jury transcripts pales in comparison to the Epstein investigation information and materials in the hands of the Department of Justice."

What fuckery is this?

NYT :Manhattan Judge Denies Request to Unseal Epstein Grand Jury Transcripts The judge said that the papers contained testimony from a single F.B.I. agent and that far more information about the case was held in Justice Department files.

Awesome news, R440, and I'm just going to repeat it from CNN because I love that it's their headline story this afternoon. They openly swat down DOJ's tactic as a "diversion" from the full Epstein files, in their write up.

So, they're hoping to be able to say "We wanted the public to see the documents, but that pesky judge ruled against it - AGAIN! Not our fault America."

Damn, that's very weak, but shit! They don't care. Good on the judge for reminding us that what they want to pass off as the requested files really aint shit at all!

In that r442 pic, Epstein has a huge, squared chin.

🚨Ivana HAUNTS Donald From GRAVE for BURYING PAST

Knopf is publishing Virginia Giuffre’s memoir on October 21st.

HOT MIC Catches MAGA Republican Dropping Epstein BOMBSHELL

Judging from the clickbait title, that must be a MeidasTouch video.

They ALL have clickbait titles, r448. Watch it or don't.

[quote]that must be a MeidasTouch video

It's not.

And lemme guess - ALL HELL BROKE LOSE!!

Here, r451...

Hot Mic Catches MAGA Republican Dropping Epstein Bombshell

It is worth a watch - I like this kid. He seems smarter than his years might suggest. That said, we ALL know Dump is in the files and no matter how hard his inner circle tries to spin it, I will never believe them.

To be fair, "all hell broke loose" is the natural state of the Trump administration.

Daily Beast was talking about Ghislane’s (sp?) “proffer” which has been released. She was talking to Trump’s henchman at the prison and TO NO ONE’S SURPRISE, she barely knew Trump and he never did anything untoward. She tripped up a few times though talking about money. Why not tell a few lies if it gets you out of a 20 year prison sentence.

[quote]They ALL have clickbait titles, [R448]. Watch it or don't.

This one is particularly egregious since the MAGA congressman referred to said Trump was only in the Epstein files because he "was the one that was telling the FBI about it."

Hardly a BOMBSHELL.

Fine, r456. You win.

I don't think she has much credibility here. People want the documents.