Cutting open living people to get their organs for donation
"In the operating room, a hospital doctor took Ms. Hawkins off the ventilator and gave her drugs for comfort. The doctor declared her dead 103 minutes later, near the outer limit of organ viability.
The surgeons entered the room. They began operating after a five-minute waiting period. All circulatory death donations require a waiting period to ensure the heart does not restart.
Almost immediately, they saw Ms. Hawkins’s heart moving. Records reviewed by The Times characterized the movement differently: Legacy of Hope called it “reanimation,” as did Flowers, which also said the heart “fluttered.” An H.H.S. review of the case said the heart was beating strongly enough to pump blood through the body....
The surgeons stopped and left the room. Another doctor sewed up Ms. Hawkins. IT IS UNCLEAR IF SHE WAS GIVEN ANY ANESTHETIC."
| by Anonymous | reply 10 | July 22, 2025 11:02 AM
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"In Miami in 2023, a potential donor who had broken his neck began crying and biting on his breathing tube, which a procurement organization worker said he interpreted as him not wanting to die. But clinicians sedated the patient, withdrew life support, waited for death and removed the organs, according to the worker and a colleague he told at the time."
| by Anonymous | reply 1 | July 20, 2025 1:09 PM
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Oh good, a new terrifying idea for my invasive thought roster.
| by Anonymous | reply 2 | July 20, 2025 1:21 PM
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Can I volunteer for this?
| by Anonymous | reply 4 | July 20, 2025 1:36 PM
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You don't even have to volunteer, r4!
| by Anonymous | reply 5 | July 20, 2025 1:39 PM
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Captain Benson, you're needed in the ER stat.
| by Anonymous | reply 6 | July 20, 2025 1:56 PM
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Great, r5. I've got a dentist appointment on Wednesday, so Thursday works for me.
| by Anonymous | reply 7 | July 20, 2025 1:58 PM
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Alert the anti-vivisection league!
| by Anonymous | reply 8 | July 20, 2025 2:41 PM
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Monty Python had it first.
| by Anonymous | reply 9 | July 22, 2025 8:48 AM
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My father died after a workplace accident in 1966, brain hemorrhage from a head injury. He was 33, I was six. I remember my mother saying that his kidneys were taken and that's fine, I have no problem with organ donation, BUT....
A few years ago my sister and I went to the cemetery which we hadn't done for years. It had almost doubled in size and we couldn't locate the grave. Fortunately there was a computer where you type in the name to find the location. I did a double-take because it said the burial was March 18, but the death (I have a copy of the certificate) was March 17. How do you organize a funeral within 24 hours? My sister (who's older) said "They kept him alive for a few days to harvest his organs."
I don't think there's anything suspicious but it freaks me out a little that the family are told to arrange a burial for a death that is officially recorded at the eleventh hour of it taking place.
| by Anonymous | reply 10 | July 22, 2025 11:02 AM
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