Karyn Kupcinet

The same cabal behind the JFK assassination did it to intimidate her father Irv Kupcient, a journalist of the Chicago Sun-Times, from writing articles on what he knew about who was behind the killing.

Hope Lange’s brother, David Lange.

Karyn's death informs a new novel, The Gossip Columnist's Daughter, written by Peter Orner. From The New Yorker:

[quote] This chatty yet reflexive novel explores the relationship between two real-life couples: Lou and Babs Rosenthal (the authors grandparents) and Irv Kupcinet, the longtime gossip columnist for the Chicago Sun-Times, and his wife, Essie. After many years of close friendship, the couples become estranged following the unsolved murder, in 1963, of the Kupcinets' daughter, Karyn, a Hollywood actress. As the narrator, a professor separated from his wife, obsessively researches the death, his investigation fuels his parenting and relationship woes and leads him into a thicket of conspiracy theories. Throughout, Orner weighs the slippery connections among family, identity and history: "The truth is I've never been drawn to stories with answers. I'm lured to the ones where people, for whatever reason, don't want an answer."

Who dat?

She had bad skin....

Liz Taylor and Richard Burton - everyone knows they did it.

Nepo baby.

She choked to death giving a blow job. Heard this from retired LAPD years ago.

R3 mistakes "informs" for the simple word "inspired," which is a kind way of suggesting "the author used her death to crap out his plot."

In 2013 actor/comedian Richard Belzer (co-authored with David Wayne) had published a very comprehensive book; Hit List: An In-Depth Investigation into the Mysterious Deaths of Witnesses to the JFK Assassination. In it it details all the witnesses and investigative journalists who were very conveniently eliminated in the three years following the assassination. The odds of those people related to that event dying in such unnatural manner in such a short span of time is something like 1 in a Quintillion, or 1,000,000,000,000,000,000, or 10{18} power.

Her mother Essie was a horrible woman. Got her daughter hooked on diet pills.

R10 I forgot to include it includes a section on Karyn Pupcinet, and how her killing was seen as a direct warning to her newspaper publisher father.

R8, stop it.

[quote]Her mother Essie was a horrible woman. Got her daughter hooked on diet pills.

She was my role model.

r12 Her father was a columnist, not a publisher.

Karyn's "Perry Mason" episode. It aired a few days after she was murdered.

It was also notable for being Ray Collins' (Lt. Tragg) last episode.

Sorry, forgot the link.

There's still a plaque in the hallway of posh Francis W. Parker School in Chicago dedicated to her memory.

Dad asks Judy about all the queers in her audience.

Andrew Prine

The radical left.

James Ellroy looked into this. There wasn't enough evidence collected by LAPD to do a cold case investigation.

I used to be partnered with a Chicago theatre critic and Jeff board member. Essie always scared the hell out of me.

R3, sounds interesting

Another creepy Chicago “daughter of” murder mystery.

I knew her cousin Susan in 1973, r25. Eventually every conversation led to Valerie. It was saddening.

No one grosser than Irv and Essie.

R25, 1966, the year I turned 9, was my awakening to the outside world. So among my earliest memories is the Valerie Percy murder that year, along with Chicago nurse killings & the Charles Whitman mass murder at the University of Texas.

The Percy killing is so scary because Valery was murdered while sleeping in the family’s lakeside mansion in one of the quietest and wealthiest suburbs of Chicago.

She wasn’t murdered, she choked on her own vomit. The autopsy report makes it obvious. She was a pill popper and a bulimic. The real story is boring.

She was strangled.

[quote] The real story is boring.

As so often it is.

The thing about her being strangled was actually vomit, which she did all the time. It’s a sad story but it wasn’t murder. It’s difficult for people to admit that their daughter had serious problems and they did nothing to help her.

Meghan Sussex is responsible.

Her hyoid bone was broken, she was was strangled.

R35 It happens

If it wasn’t an accident I believe Hope Lange’s brother did it. He was weird.