Mamdani has a 10-point lead over Cuomo in the general election

"Adams in particular is in a bad spot. His net approval rating is at -34, with 28 percent of respondents expressing a favorable view and 62 percent unfavorable. By comparison, Mamdani is at +4 and Cuomo is at -2.

"Adams trails Mamdani among every single subset of voters except one: Republicans, where Adams picks up 26 percent to Mamdani’s 7 percent. Sliwa leads among Republicans however, with 43 percent, while Cuomo gets 16 percent.

"Adams, who is Black, even trails both Mamdani and Cuomo among Black voters. Mamdani leads with 35 percent, followed by Cuomo at 32, Adams at 14 and Sliwa at 3."

Hah!

The NY Democratic political machine is absolutely losing their shit over Mamdani, and I'm here for the drama.

"I'm DEEPLY concerned he doesn't like the Jews" button about to get turned up to 11.

R1, Mamdani has rapidly gained ground with Black voters.

NYC is fucked whatever the end result. Which, what else is new.

NYC will be fine.

Agreed, R6. No mayor yet has brought down NYC, only themselves.

Zohran Mamdami is EATING a MEATBALL SANDWICH RIGHT OUT IN CLASS!

Current polling:

40% Mamdani 24% Cuomo 15% Adams 14% Sliwa

The fact that the Democratic nominee can't break 40% in NYC shows what a weak candidate he is. The majority of New Yorkers want someone else. Unfortunately, he's running against three egomaniacs who will split the remaining vote (and none of whom will quit the race), so we're likely to get Mamdani anyway.

BTW, the above polling numbers are from Data for Progress, a left-wing think tank. Hence, probably skewed somewhat in Mamdani's favor.

14% Sliwa, somebody explain that to me….

Is the cat lady vote that large?

Adams can go back to staring directly into the sun, drinking his meals in smoothie form, and running through traffic in his underwear yelling "I AM A JEDI!"

Adams or Silva will drop out; I'm going with Adams. Adams is way "under water-drowning" at this point.

That poll is "way skewed far-left" We're waiting to see what happens.

Billionaire paying Adams to drop out 3...2...1...

^^^That's what I am waiting to happen^^^

The NYPost is losing their shit over Mamdani. I have to see the cover every morning (don't ask). I wasn't thrilled about him but now I will skip to the polling site to vote for him enthusiastically. What's the alternative? Sliwa? I'm a cat lady but no, I'm not voting for Curtis because he has a zillion kitties. I know many cat people and they're mostly nuts.

[quote] The fact that the Democratic nominee can't break 40% in NYC shows what a weak candidate

Except that there are still three Democrats in the race.

A zillion kitties in a studio apartment.

R6 - not only will NYC be fine, the city sends its love too. GO MAMDANI!

So more than 50% of New Yorkers won’t vote for Mamdani. Two of his three opponents should drop out. But that will never happen and we’ll end up with a Mayor rejected by the majority of voters.

I'm not a new yorker but it's so much fun watching this play out. Conservatives on both sides are losing their shit while the city is just like "nope, we want this guy."

I’m still not voting for that MAN child.

R4 Hearing "Frozen Rent" and "Free Buses: sounds great to low educated voters. Their lack of knowledge prevents them from understanding he has no control over rents or buses, He's a loudmouth bull shitter who'll promise anything to get elected, while the city gets fucked.

The alternatives are a criminal who doesn’t live in New York City and is now beholden to Trump (Adams), a criminal bully that’ll probably suck up to Trump if it is convenient (Cuomo) or crazy cat lad Republican Sliwa so Mamdani will win.

Mamdani will win because he has three opponents who will split the anti Mamdani vote. Not because the majority of citizens want him as Mayor.

The center won't win if it tries to scare people (see how that worked for Hilary).

The center will win if their candidates aren't repulsive .

[quote] Not because the majority of citizens want him as Mayor.

The majority of Democrats do, R26, and they make up the vast majority of NYC voters.

R24,you prefer Cuomo or Adams, then? Which? And they don't bullshit?

[quote] But that will never happen and we’ll end up with a Mayor rejected by the majority of voters.

Where are the numbers that support that, R21?

[quote]The fact that the Democratic nominee can't break 40% in NYC shows what a weak candidate he is.

Spin, little GOP operative, spin!

Zohan has a duper's delight grin if I ever saw one.

R28, 6 out of 10 NYC voters are Democrats. The beginning of the end came with deBlasio, now Adams, Mamdani will sent the city down the shitter.

Six out of 10 will send Mamdani to Gracie Mansion, R33. What do you mean the "beginning of the end"--the end of what? NYC will be around long after any mayor's tenure. Unless you prefer Sliwa?

I'd say it's much more likely it's the beginning of the end of democracy with Dump.

How exactly do you “spin” the fact that he’s unable to break 40% in a heavily Democratic city, in a poll by a left-wing advocacy group, R31? How do you spin the fact that the majority of those polled want someone other than Mamdani, by a double-digit margin?

He’s a weak candidate.

Cope, little Bernie bro, cope.

[quote] How do you spin the fact that the majority of those polled want someone other than Mamdani, by a double-digit margin?

What poll are you referring to, R35?

He’s the least unpopular of a deeply unpopular group of candidates running.

Also can we just contemplate the weirdness of the fact that there is a non-Democrat candidate running on the Democratic line and two Democratic candidates running as Independents?

True r37, and nobody should be contemplating that more than the Democratic Party itself. Why are its annointed and appointed leaders so emphatically rejected by its primary voters? What is it about the modern Democratic party establishment that makes it so repulsive to its own base? Hmmm. That would be well worth figuring out and correcting.

You can't believe any poll,, they're all slanted based on who they survey. Cuomo poll a month or so ago saying he was ahead, was paid for by Andrew. Like "scientific studies" saying vitamins and supplements are a waste of money, paid for by big pharma

I think you are inappropriately generalizing from the very specific, atypical situation in New York City to the Democratic Party in general R38.

Maybe r40. I think we have a very restive, dissatisfied base right now, and it's pretty much exploding in NYC right now, but throughout the country there is a desperation to get away from same ole-same ole, old and dreary kinda nothing, basically summed up by the name Chuck Schumer. I suspect we'll see more of this next year as congressional races heat up. I do wish the leadership would stop being so terrified of leftist populism and get that the old neoliberal Clintonite arrangement is dead.

Polls are pretty much useless nowadays.

I feel like there’s a major anti-Mamdani hit piece coming whether in his own words or photos or something else. Something big is coming.

If nobody drops out and rallies behind one viable alternative candidate by Labor Day, it’s game over. Mamdani will be the next mayor and New York City will be destroyed.

Probably r43, but I seriously wonder if anybody will give a shit. Oh noes, the New York Times says he's a bad man!!!

Fuck off, New York Times. For so many reasons, but starting with the fact that the people who shriek loudest in horror about purity tests on the left are the first to demand 100 percent perfection by everybody to the left of Joe Manchin.

Okay, Nostradamus at R43.

As for Mamdani being unpopular, he's unpopular to some and incredibly popular to others. That should not be discounted.

[quote] Mamdani will be the next mayor and New York City will be destroyed.

Please, Mary at R44. Mayors come and go and NYC remains standing. Stop your absurd hyperbole.

When his mayoralty inevitably fails, will his stupid Gen Z fanbase defend him?

Sure, R47, run down his voters as idiots. Of course, he has a lot more than Gen Z voters in his corner. So who do you think is better--the 67-year-old corrupt sex pest senior citizen killer or the 64-year-old felon and Dump bitch boy? Or is it Sliwa you adore?

Still waiting for your answer, R47.

Not much is going to happen in New York because of him since, whether you think it is a good thing or a bad thing, he’s too inexperienced to actually govern the city in all its complexity. Those around him with more experience will actually be governing.

Fine by me, ElderLez. Beats the alternative of those three ratbags.

Agree r51. And really, I hope he does recognize it's a big task, or really a combination of big huge tasks and some little tasks that really just should be done. My guess is he'll get his free buses and his city-run grocery stores (a very small number) by pushing the slow and ever resistant bureaucracy until they get off their ass and do them.

For the big stuff, like the extremely complex and daunting issue of housing, yes of course, a monumental task is definitely going to require a lot of skilled people and a hell of a lot of coordination. But the truth is the very experienced and tired old politicos don't exactly have some stellar record on that subject throughout the country. Maybe Mamdani can push a little harder than the old guard would push and get some actual results, with yes a lot of help from more experienced people.

Fear, the city is rank with it

R43- I doubt it will make a difference. This man child wants to have all of these give aways in a city that is already bankrupt. This will all end in tears.😭

The rich will be fine r54. Don't panic. In fact, they'll still be ridiculously rich. Just a few non-rich New Yorkers might be better off. Don't panic about that, just accept it.

The city isn't bankrupt, R54, you ridiculous, lying queen.

Really! What stuff and nonsense. Unless R54 is posting from the 1970s.

Yes, ElderLez, poor Miss R54 is stuck in time.

If you look at what he says he wants to do, it's really not that radical.

The supermarket thing might be a little odd but whatever - versions of it are happening all over the state and country. Why not give it a try? It'll be jobs and some decent food in neighborhoods that don't really have any options.

But - free busses? Holding down rents? These are hardly the stuff of Bolshevism.

The center needs to stop being so hysterical and dramatic.

If a state can run liquor stores, then a city can be a grocer, why not.

True r59, and that's what makes so much of this so damn pathetic. The rich will be slightly less rich under Mamdani??? Oh, no, horrors, everyone shriek about it endlessly and declare the end of civilization as we know it!!! So fucked up and ridiculous, but it just shows how much we have become a country and a culture of, by, and for the rich exclusively.

As I've been saying, the demise of the Democratic Party is inevitable and you can't change it.

Mamdani will win and will harm NYC even more, causing many across the country to flock to Republicans.

Thus, more blue cities/states will turn red by 2028.

The result: The end of the Democrats and the start of the United States being ruled by one party (i.e. empire).

Miss Nostradamus R62, you really need to get a grip--all that from the election of one NYC mayor? Get real. And by the way, MAGAts--by voting for Dump and Repugs, along with SCOTUS and the electoral college, have already made this coountry subject to practically one-party rule.

Really Cuntsayer?

But lets start with this.

[quote] Mamdani will win and will harm NYC even more, causing many across the country to flock to Republicans.

Harm NYC even more, than what? What is the current harm you see happening? Who is doing it? And how?

And even if he does harm it, why exactly does that translate into some Republican sweep around the country? Why would people a thousand miles away from NYC care more about whatever Mamdani is doing than whatever fuckery Trump is doing and will continue to do and will certainly be doing more and more of in the next year? Why exactly is the mayor of NYC so much more important to people than the clearly incompetent fucker currently polluting the White House?

A lot of Mamdami’s ideas will get negotiated downward or won’t be possible, but some will. What his NYC supporters are liking and resonating with is that at least this is a Mayoral candidate who’s motivated to try to actually DO THINGS to help offset the massive and growing wealth/class gap.

We are socioeconomically becoming an “hourglass” shaped society like Brazil, it’s happening slowly but more and more younger people know it’s the hard truth.

[quote]As I've been saying, the demise of the Democratic Party is inevitable and you can't change it.

Sweetie, nothing is inevitable. And if you think Mamdani is liberal, wait till you see what the 21 year-olds will be like after 4 years of Fat Francisco Franco.

It’s not just his socialist giftbag or his defund the police rhetoric that is troubling. The guy is a pure anti-Semite and anti-white racist. He will not be a mayor or speak for all New Yorkers. No wonder this guy is not even above 40% in some single polls. Not everyone is fooled by that smile.

Got it, you have no answers, you intend to have no answers, you are here to bot and pretend and to whore for the rich r67.

So be it. Your side tends to have nothing else, so it is no surprise that you have nothing else. Thank you for clarifying.

R68: He literally said he wants to tax the richer and whiter neighborhoods. Why can’t you just fucking say that is intentionally divisive and racist?

Keep fucking that chicken, R67. No one buys your bullshit no matter how often you post it.

Literally a cat riding a zoomba would be better at running the city than our current mayor so I think Mamdani will be just fine, JFC

Excuse me Roomba I got my oombas crossed

Yes, the whiter neighborhoods tend to be the richer neighborhoods. Yes, that is clearly what he meant. Yes, everyone pretending to be traumatized by that knew exactly what he meant. No, that does not change the fact that the people who oppose taxing the rich are simply whores who are either paid to do so or who have some insane, religious attachment to the rich as sacred beings.

THEY EARNED THAT MONEY

Yes, they grifted successfully. That I suppose is a kind of "earning." Certainly on Wall Street it is.

I fully support the rights of foreign billionaires to buy the entire city and destroy the skyline.

[quote]The fact that the Democratic nominee can't break 40% in NYC shows what a weak candidate he is.

This is such a lame argument. I see it all the time weather it's with Biden, Harris, Pete, Obama. The fact is when you have 3,4,5 candidates you almost never have one that sweeps the floor. A 10 point lead is huge in politics.

In politics you right the winning horse you are given, not the pretty pony in the stable who's never entered a race.

New York City has become that place where the Billionaire class park their money in empty high-rise towers while the poors service them.

Prove me wrong.

It’s sad for democracy that 60% of voters will express with their vote that they don’t want Mamdani, yet that’s who will rule. If NYC doesn’t have a runoff process for the general election, it should, so that the mayor represents more than 40% of the population.

R79, wouldn’t that also be true about Cuomo if Cuomo were to eke out a narrow victory? Nature of the beast when four candidates are on the ballot.

Or are you only feeling so sad about democracy because it’s Mamdami who will get the most votes?

Yup, big crocodile tears for the unfairness of it all, but only if the candidate of the rich loses. It's all so tired and sad and stupid.

Don't get too excited kids, he has not won yet. Apparently only about 16% of registered voters came out last time to vote for Mayor. If a bunch of haters come out to vote like they did with Trump it might not be the outcome we are hoping for.

R82, according to the NYC Board of Elections, more than 976,102 voters participated, representing a significant increase in turnout compared to 2021--in fact, more than double the turnout of 2021. The higher turnout was particularly driven by younger and first-time voters. The fact that Mamdani won is very encouraging and will bring out even more voters for him in the general election.

yup, r83. We are in a weird phase where both the right and the centrists have decided that only the right can possibly turn out new voters, cause only angry young white men are new voters and obtainable. Mamdani has shown that no, given a message beyond tired old formulas, maybe new voters can turn out for the left. It's confusing them, and they don't like it.

[bold] Steve Kornacki with his "annoying facts" shows why Mamdani is in for the win:

An improvement over his usual diarrhea-colored chinos.

I’ve already visited NYC more than once and saw all the sights I wanted to see, so I don’t really care if the people there choose to slide into the pit any further..

r87 is off to see the biggest ball of twine in the country, and will then be renouncing the town wherein it resides!

There’s literally an entire world to see that’s not New York.

Well, yeah r89, and there's twine.

Weird Al entered the chat

Flyover trolls who think that "Escape from New York" was a documentary are my favorite trolls.

[quote] How do you spin the fact that the majority of those polled want someone other than Mamdani, by a double-digit margin?

Or, hear me out here, he's the preferred of 4 candidates, two of whom shouldn't be running?

If you think you can graft Adams, Cuomo and Sliwa together into some Corporate Mecha Centrist, by all means go for it.

I'm not the one coping here, bro. Mamdani is NYC's next mayor. He'll be fine. Deal with it.

[quote] Mamdani is NYC's next mayor. He'll be fine. Deal with it.

What matters in the end is that New Yorkers will be getting the government they deserve.

And as always, not even the slightest attempt to explain why Cuomo or Adams should be mayor or what they hope to accomplish or in Adams case why he didn't accomplish it so far.

Just a vague horror that rich cunts on Wall Street will have a sad if anybody votes for Mamdani. Well, rich cunts, I fear you are going to have to live in that sadness, as it looks very likely that it will be Mamdani.

A recent New York Magazine article about the mayoral race features political operatives mocking outraged billionaires like Bill Ackman for acting on their emotions and completely misreading city politics. They are making the typical rich-guy mistake of assuming that they have universal expertise and can solve all of their problems by throwing money at them. And what do Sliwa, Adams and Cuomo have in common? They are "egotistical sociopaths."

[quote] When we spoke, Catsimatidis was vague about how all this would play out. “What’s the name of that song? ‘See You in September,’” he said. “Something will happen. Hey, God saved America.” He was referring to Trump surviving assassination attempts and winning reelection.

And there we go, dumbfuck Trump Cult member has dumbfuck reasons for sobbing about Mamdani. Don't care, don't imagine anyone else in New York cares. Live with the hurt and the trauma.

These same elders who want to tout Cuomo’s higher support amongst the lower classes, give not a fuck when that same lower classes wants to defund the police. It’s because of name recognition. You be surprised how many non educated people don’t know politicians or even what’s going on, they just know names.

Bill Ackman et al. should have thrown money at Adrienne Adams or Kathryn Garcia (after talking her into running again) when they had a chance prior to the primary rather than trying to prop up the execrable Cuomo. They’ve only their own stupidity to blame for Mamdani’s win. In any event, if New York can survive Giuliani it can survive Mamdani and if some people choose not to visit, reservations at Le Veau D’or will be easier to get.

In the meantime some billionaires might want to buy a clue by actually making nice to Mamdani.

He can always get money from his mommy and daddy to pay for his policies.

Ackman needs to throw himself into the canal.

Or from these rich doofuses who obviously love throwing money around for no particular reason r100. Let them actually pay for something worthwhile for once.

R99, the savvier ones already are.

Bill Ackman should focus on his budding pro tennis career.

I wonder who's going to crack up first, once he gets into office and finds himself unable to deliver on even a fraction of his glorious promises: The famously fickle voters of NYC, or Hizzoner himself.

He doesn't have any natural allies on the Council. They're all Democrats, sure, but that's about it. Most of them supported other candidates, and they don't have deep ties to this guy. So they have nothing to gain or lose from him. They don't love him, and they won't fear him.

The NYC Council LOVES to watch a new mayor stumble. It's the only time they get any real power in that city. They'll gladly let him twist in the wind while they steamroll right over his plans for every little thing. The borough presidents will do the same thing, sticking in their knives wherever and however they can, in order to advance their priorities and keep his down.

[quote] The famously fickle voters of NYC,

R105, the NYC voters have voted for every career politician until now.

I love when Republicans pull this shit: they better come through or the people will destroy them. When has a Republican done fuck all for anybody or anything in the past 40 years? What the fuck would that even look like? All they ever do is give tax cuts to rich fucks who don't even want them at this point (although damned if they ain't gonna accept them). What a fucking joke, and what a fucking stupid threat.

The terror of course is that some progressive will actually make things even a little bit better for the non-rich. That's what makes these fuckers wake up in a cold sweat in the middle of the night, the terror that there might be an alternative to their shit and nonsense.

R106 And they always turn on their beloved politicians, every single time. And then they look around and wonder who elected those ghouls in the first place.

Typical microcosm of American voters. They never blame themselves when things go tits-up. It's always someone else's crazy doing.

R108, it never goes tits up in NYC. American voters do not reflect NYC voters.

That's odd, I thought NYC was part of America.

R110, have you been to NYC, and to the rest of America (apart from the cities)?

R107, as a commentator elsewhere said, the big fear isn’t that Mamdani can’t run the city but that he CAN. What if he proves that making few improvements to people’s lives is a good idea?

He looks cute in the latest NYPost hit piece

New York Times article about the same meeting.

Mamdani is a really good politician. He never looses his cool, never lets the really shitty things being said about him throw him and sticks to his main thrust of affordability for all.

I wish Bloomberg could run again. He was the only Republican I've ever voted for (but he wasn't really one).

Wonder what the impact of this will be.

ElderLez, it will certainly help to erode Adams' already dismal chances.

Do you think he’ll drop out and if he does where will voters go?

No, I don't think he will.

Today, I saw that a pizzeria I like has a Zohan poster in their window. Arrivederci, Joe's Pizza, it was nice knowin ya all these years.

R116, would he be able to run?

So basically he's going to take money from working/middle class people (all the financially mobile people will get the hell out of dodge) and give that money to people who don't work.

Zzzzzzz, R123.

R122 no he's already served 3 terms (1 more than he was supposed to but because of the 2008 Recession he was allowed to run again to keep things steady.

I've met him socially a couple times, genuinely a nice man.

[quote] he was allowed to run again

He allowed himself to run again by changing the rules, you mean, R125.

Dear Bill Ackman @R123, shouldn't you be working on your drop shot?

Middle class people take the bus and working people live in food deserts in NYC. His two signature initiatives don’t have income eligibility criteria so that’s kind of a stupid post R123.

More accurate would be he’s going to take money from billionaires who just got a huge windfall on their federal taxes and use it to shorten commuting time and decrease the number of people having limbs chopped off because of uncontrolled diabetes.

The only people who benefit from socialism are the politicians who advocate for it and their friends.

Thus saith Gutfeld

Rumor: Anti-Hamdani Rally - Monday, the 21st - His Assembly office, 24-08 32nd Street in Astoria.

Well that and the people who actually get the necessary services instead of nonsense and bullshit from the whores of the rich r129.

But really, of course we're not talking about "socialism" per se. We are talking about a strengthened social safety net and expanded services within an overall capitalist economy. And we all know that's the most that will actually happen here.

So what, R131?

He wants social workers rather than cops to confront assailants with knives.

Fifty percent of the bus riders don't pay the fare as it is. There is also a half-fare card for low income people. At many subway stations there's often a small crowd of people waiting to walk through the emergency exit so they can get on for free. Now many emergency exits are locked, which is not a good thing in an emergency,

Like a good marxist, he has stated that the ultimate goal is to seize the means of production. Bright idea given how incompetent governments often are. A case in study: OTB. The city couldn't even make a gambling operation work and it went under. There wasn't even anything to produce.

Like a good marxist, he wants power and the people dependent on government and under its thumb.

What exactly are the means of production these days? Laptops at Starbucks? I want to calibrate my terror to the exact specifications, so that I know what exactly I'm afraid of when I rush to the rich and beg them for serfdom.

Write to Zohan, R136, for the answer. He said it. Honey, you can start your own business, you know, under capitalism. Maybe you should educate yourself about the Kulaks and the Holodomor for a start. No reason to be afraid, but you really should educate yourself. You sound grossly uninformed.

Yes, the Kulaks of New York City are no doubt terrified, Boris. Yes, this is a thing that is happening.

R138, the Kulaks are an illustration and warning (there are many more violent marxist catastrophes throughout the 20th century) of what Zohan mentions is the ultimate goal: the government seizure of the means of production. How Zohan thinks this is possible and a good, worthy goal is beyond me given that this process and form of government and the politicians are responsible for the murder of well over 100 million its own peoples. Cultural Revolution, anyone, for good measure?

Thanks, Mario Cuomo at R134.

R134 got that from Cuomo's interview on NY1. Lame.

Thanks for the invite, R131! Right around the corner, I'll make sure to stop by with my "FUCK THE RICH" sign.

R133 Dataloungers may want to join the rally.

I'm sure he will win and will be a disaster. People will complain, but they will deserve all the misery since they voted for it. Just like MAGA. When you vote for extremists, don't be surprised when it bites you in the ass.

His promise is as empty as the heads of his fervent supporters. He swears they’ll tax the income of the billionaires, and it’ll fund a Candy Land of new programs.

Except the billionaire class don’t derive the bulk of their earnings from taxable income. It doesn’t show up on a tax return in a way that can be sliced off by a city government.

He could institute a fresh parcel tax on the land they own, but that would invariably hit the regular people too.

He could try to impose a tax on stock earnings, but that’s messy and there are ways around that too.

I'm not sure that 5 city-run grocery stores, free buses and making the Rent Guidelines Board keep rent hikes to 0% for at least 2 years is "extreme."

Giving the NYPD a blank check for corruption and overtime padding while gutting every other city service is extreme. But maybe that's an extreme you like?

He could do a tax on Real Estate, above say 2 million dollars so the little people don't get hit. NYC is where a lot of them park their money. Isn't there a "Billionaires row" there with a bunch of mostly empty brand new towers?

Forced rent control on other people’s property is pretty extreme, yes. But New Yorkers don’t mind it as long as they’re the ones with the controlled rent.

The police union has more political power than The Poors. They get their way because they have influence, and organization, and credibility, and control a lot of votes. The working poor are famously unreliable as a bloc of voters. They are numerous, but careless and disorganized. They are easily ignored or swindled, because what are they gonna do about it?

R141 reminded me of when I saw a homemade RESIST! sign in the window of a recently built $1 million dollar condo in a hood of multimillion dollar brownstones. Yes, I laughed out loud. In this same neighborhood that has to be about 90% White, BLM signs were ubiquitous for well over a year. Limo marxist are often very funny and their complete lack of self-insight and irony makes them even more entertaining.

The working poor are often their own worst enemy, it's why they are poor.

And so we get to the real fear, that Mamdani will not be rewarding the rich for being in their holy state and grinding down the poor for the sin of poverty.

Yeah, no, we're going in a different direction, but thanks for stopping by.

R150 But the rich can leave the City. They can convert properties, or incorporate in Delaware, or offshore assets, or hire ten lawyers and ten accountants to rig up their finances so Beardo couldn’t touch them for ten years. They are very good at this, and they have enough resources to outsmart or outrun anything you try to throw at them.

How young and naive are you, that you think the 1% will simply roll over and allow you to pick their pockets because you won an election? They’ve crushed stronger fighters than Zohran, and they’ll outlast this little war.

R150, they grind themselves down. Having a good, interesting life is not complicated: value education, get a job, avoid addictions, build a career, find a partner, have children if you wish, roughly in that order. I understand you need the poor so you can look down upon them all savior and Evita-like, to mourn their "imposed" lot and to use them to blame those you hate. As Orwell astutely pointed out: socialists don't love the poor, they hate the rich.

What's really funny is Elon Musk, who despite his best efforts is still the richest man in the world, defies all your rules of success r152.

But to be fair, I think they're reasonable and in general better than the alternatives for everybody.

But I don't think free buses are going to cause the collapse of all families (that's gay marriage's job, as we know) or the end of all work and careers (that's AI's job, but really that one may be true), or the rest of your horror stories. And if free buses lead to Mamdani looking out on his descamisados Evita-like, well, I think everyone can live with that trauma as well.

R153, Elon has two Bachelor degrees, started a software company at 23, sold another software company for $1.5 billion less than a decade later, around the same time he had his first child. He certainly has not ground himself down and has had an extraordinary life.

If only the issue were only free buses, something a mayor has no power to make happen in the first place. The issue is Marxism, which he espouses, has never worked. It has always been a dismal failure. He's either disingenuous or a complete idiot. In either case, he shouldn't be mayor.

Good for him

We need to replace all Republicans with Social Democrats.

They are the only antidote for Criminal Capitalism.

Socialism, Marxism, limousine Bolshevists, blah, blah blah.

Here's the thing. I don't give a fuck about any of that or if what he proposes can be delivered upon in its entirety or in part.

I truly don't care, but I do care that he's the only person giving voice to the undeniable fact that life is incredibly unaffordable for way too many people.

Fine. His solutions won't work. But what solutions do Cuomo, the establishment, or the billionaires purpose?

Absolutely fucking nothing . So, fuck them. They have nothing for anyone but themselves.

Wow, nihilism much r156?

I've never heard of limousine Bolsheviks, but I am just another Kulak in the mud.

I still like Social Democrats.

Everything is dependent on an eventual Democratic super majority in the Senate.

Considering how well the democrats have run the city and state in the past 50 years, what's another failed democratic mayor, socialist or not?

If your only solution to systemic poverty is to take money from one group and give it to another, then you haven't actually solved anything.

But plenty of stupid people will call you a hero.

You mean take money from the people who have hoarded all the money for a generation?

Idk I think that may solve the problem

"Hoarded" it, have they? It's not toilet paper during a pandemic. It's not Preparation H when Madonna is in town.

It's money. They earned it. You want it. Calling them hoarders and crooks only conceals the fact that you're the one doing the mugging here.

Come back with a gun next time.

[quote]They earned it

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[quote] HAHAHAHAHAHA

Almost as funny as "I moved to Hell's Kitchen from Ohio, with nothing but a master's in modern dance and a dream! Nobody told me I'd never make it! I can't afford food, and I WON'T go back to a city without a pickleball league or a Whole Foods! This is the fault of the billionaire whose grandson set up my OnlyFans! Older people just don't know how hard it is to work ten hours a week and STRUGGLE TO SURVIVE!"

Sort out your own fucking lives, and you won't need Other People's Money to make your rent.

It's so gallant of you to come to the aid of the poor, besieged billionaires from an army of...modern dance graduates who live in Hell's Kitchen?

What?

R164 The billionaires aren't the least bit besieged. Haven't you fruits learned anything from that awful "Gilded Age" show you won't shut up about? They're well beyond the reach of any mere taxation structure, and they can prove it rather handily if they have to.

As mentioned previously, they have a dozen legal ways to evade any halfwit "wealth tax" and leave Zohran holding a decidedly empty bag.

The 1% have options. The working poor do not. That's why one group is so chronically fucked, and the other is so chronically carefree.

[quote] Sort out your own fucking lives, and you won't need Other People's Money to make your rent.

That's good. I like it. Mind if I use it?

R166 That's the first time you've asked before using something juicy.

Don't look now, doc, but the people picking up and moving to NYC with nothing but a dream and modern dance degree are probably Trust Fund Babies, and it is your Cult's sacred duty to serve them and their parents' money.

As for the real people who have real jobs and are struggling to make real rents, whatever Mamdani can do for them will be great, and helpful to both them and the rest of the city.

Americans deserve what they want. If they are so short-sighted to vote for this guy, then they deserve Sharia law, communism, poverty, famine, loss of religious freedoms, and killing fields. They asked for it because of their desperation to be viewed as the greatest virtue signalers. So be it. Nothing lasts forever. America enjoyed 250 years of great democracy, but it will crash because a generation wants to show itself off to others in a race to be the most virtuous signaler, and gaslighting by media and academic frauds.

I find it amazing how billionaires get excited by trickle up Reagan Economics, but get pissy when, after redistributing American wealth, the poors are criticized for wanting to redistribute back to the middle class.

I knew a girl who virtue signaled once. Then she died.

And so did America!

R170 The people doing the thieving are always happier than the people being robbed. It's human nature.

If rich people are so immune from taxes and tax hikes, why do they freak out so bad whenever anyone suggests it? Why do they spend so much money to buy themselves a Congress that will cut their taxes?

[quote] famines and killing fields

MARY!

r173, it is on the way to the Project 2025 National VAT.

Cope and seethe, oligarch worshippers. Cope and seethe.

No wonder America will be gone when we have people like R176.

So much clueless trolling on this post from people who have clearly never been to New York.

Shifting gears, Cuomo announced today that he’d take over control of both the subways and the buses if elected mayor.

Is there enough time for Cuomo to become the savior for NYC?

For all the people hankering for socialism by an Indian origin person who is so clueless that virtuous whites in their desperation to virtue signal are voting, they should go and experience it.

He is a start.

If I wanted to experience Socialism, I'd vacation in France or Denmark .

To get back to the choices in the election:

Criminal 1 Criminal 2 Crazy Cat Lad Person with inadequate experience who wants faster buses

R181 - They are not socialist, they are capitalist with generous social safety nets.

[quote]If they are so short-sighted to vote for this guy, then they deserve Sharia law, communism, poverty, famine, loss of religious freedoms, and killing fields. They asked for it because of their desperation to be viewed as the greatest virtue signalers. So be it. Nothing lasts forever.

Yeah, that sounds like a sane and logical reaction. Can you at least confirm to us that you are a resident and registered voter in New York, NY to be this hysterical?

[quote]America enjoyed 250 years of great democracy, but it will crash because a generation wants to show itself off to others in a race to be the most virtuous signaler, and gaslighting by media and academic frauds.

If anyone is responsible for the destruction of American democracy, it will be through the actions of this current administration. That new 'generation' you really don't like isn't in a position to crush democracy in this country.

R183, don't tell that to MAGA.

THEY ARE COMMUNISTS!

He already put into writing that he’s going to tax white areas. Enjoy.

R184 This guy is not a good person, and neither are AOC or the democratic socialists. The current administration is not destroying democracy. Unlike the democrats, who were willing to ignore court orders, this administration has been compliant with all court orders. If you want to buy into the elite media narrative, sure, that is your choice. The problem is that the media elites consider working-class whites as people who should not have a voice or be seen or heard. And the media elites and democrats hate white people. And they aim to crush them and eliminate them, even though many of these disgusting anti white bozos in the media are whites themselves. But they think they are not.

⬆️ Crazy 😜

[quote]The current administration is not destroying democracy.

Just defunding democracy and pocketing the cash.

[quote]But the rich can leave the City. They can convert properties, or incorporate in Delaware, or offshore

OH NO! Fiddly Dee! What will happen if the rich leave the city! You are as dumb as a box of rocks if you don't know they have always had their property under corporate names, entities, etc. Most do not even live there. So no one will be missed.

NYC is just a parking lot for their money and if there was a better place to do it, they would have done so already. A 2% tax is not going to push them of the edge.

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[quote]virtuous whites in their desperation to virtue signal are voting

The entire idea of "virtue signaling" as a bad thing is hilarious to me. Because it presupposes that the person doing the accusing is a total racist shithead. And further, the people doing the virtue signaling are ALSO racist shitheads but acting like they're not. So the accuser is saying "oh fuck you, you're a racist shithead just like me!"

And, I agree that the accuser is probably a racist shithead but it IS possible that his white supporters aren't? And just like him?

R192, imagine thinking that “virtue signaling” is worse than a government that kidnaps people off the street,

See, R180 yearns for an all-white America and is fine having brown people kidnapped off the street and sent to a concentration camp. The only problem as far as he's concerned is someone being rude to him on the internet.

R190 If they leave the city and take their income, businesses, and legal residency with them, Beardo will have nothing left to tax.

The communists had the same problem in Berlin. All the educated, wealthy, and useful people fled to West Berlin, because who the fuck would want to live under gunpoint communism? So to stem the tide, they built a wall and put up a few thousand armed guards. Anyone attempting to flee to a better life would be executed.

Maybe you rent control kids dream of a similar setup for NYC. "You can't leave. We have plans for your money."

And then of course there’s perennial also-ran Scott Stringer. Could ranked voting put Stringer in?

There’s no ranked voting in the general election, R196.

[quote]All the educated, wealthy, and useful people fled to West Berlin

Yes, Mamdani's plans include nationalizing all industries and installing a repressive secret police

[quote]If they leave the city and take their income, businesses, and legal residency with them, Beardo will have nothing left to tax.

Again you miss the point, its an empty threat as there is no where else better to go where they can park their money for so cheap with the guarantee on how much it will grow. A minor 2% tax hike on the super rich will not impact their lives in any way.

The idea that the rich will suddenly uproot all their investments in that city is about as real as all the clebs that said they were moving out of the country. At best maybe one or two actually do it.

Also - please stop trying to make "Beardo" happen. It's sweaty.

r198, once a non Republican brings up RAISING TAXES, the Capitalist Right goes all out on obfuscating nonsense because Social Democrats are the only antidote to all the cash that has flooded our elections since Citizens United.

So to sum up the critique against the mayoral frontfunner so far:

[bold]WOKE WOKE WOKITY WOKE BLM SHAKIRA LAW DEI ISLAMOFASCIST COMMUNIST ANTIFA!!!1![/bold]

Did I leave anything out?

Rinses pasta!

Every post predicting the imminent demise of NYC once Mamdani is elected is completely unhinged right-wing hysteria and supremely entertaining to everyone else.

In other words, you people sound nuts. Please keep posting. We could all use more laughter in our lives.

R178, you made me remember how Cuomo shut down the subway because of a blizzard about 15 years ago. It felt like he did it just because he could. I think it was the first time the entire system was shut down for a blizzard.

[Quote] Rinses pasta!

And doesn’t cheerlead for ethnic cleansing like you do!

elderlez @ r203 may me actually LOL.

A brilliant DL W&W

Thank you!

[Quote] How exactly do you “spin” the fact that he’s unable to break 40% in a heavily Democratic city, in a poll by a left-wing advocacy group, [R31]?

You just did it, bless your heart.

The Zionos and other rightwingers are losing their shit over Mamdani and I’m here for it.

The truly ludicrous gaslighting is like nectar. Here we have a relative newcomer and outsider to democratic government in NYC, facing off against three iconic figures in NY/NYC politics. Known names to everyone.

And on top of that, the newcomer is a … GASP … Muslim, so facing the same ugly bigotry Jewish candidates faced in earlier times, or, to a lesser degree, Catholics.

Yet the newcomer from the ostracized religion is not only in the lead, he’s more than TEN FUCKING POINTS ahead of the next highest polling candidate.

That’s not only amazing, it’s a miracle!

The delightfully crass argument “this Muslim newcomer must poll higher than ALL THREE establishment candidates COMBINED or he’s “deeply unpopular” (ElderFascist’s words) is the most delightful gaslighting fail of this pleasant summer Friday.

Encore, encore!!!

Mamdani is massing his troops at the Lincoln tunnel as we speak and pressuring New Jersey to join his Weehawken Pact as a counterbalance to NATO. Then the surrounding states will fall like dominoes to the onslaught of Godless Communism and the oppressive forces of Mamdani's jackbooted thugs. Just you see. You anti-semites will be sorry then.

What I want for Christmas is a webcam reaction of Anscher when Mamdani wins the election, and a Muslim is elected mayor of the largest city in America, and arguably the world’s greatest city.

It will be the 2020s version of the Diana death reaction video! 😂

R208, keep cheering. When a muslim country treats everyone the same, and grants rights to all, then no one will be saying anything about a person's religion. There is something wrong with gleeful people like you who seem to be cheerleading people who will rob everyone of their rights. He said to globalize the intifada. Today, to hate Jewish people is the flavor of the month, and tomorrow it will be whites, Christians, and gays. AOC and Mamdani are the same. It's great to see you so gleeful. Some people's brains are too fried and high on mass media peddling of lies and delusions.

[quote]then no one will be saying anything about a person's religion.

Oh sweetie, we know you will

He’s basically running on De Blasio’s agenda and we all know how that turned out.

Universal pre-K and two terms?

(And a schmucky inability to show up to memorial services on time)

[Quote] When a muslim country treats everyone the same, and grants rights to all, then no one will be saying anything about a person's religion.

I wasn’t aware Mamdani was a Muslim country! I thought he was an American and a New Yorker.

In this, your latest truly pathetic attempt to libel this candidate, you really do sound quite a lot like the ultra rightwingers who want to set up new Auschwitz death camps here in America to stop worldwide Jewish domination.

You must be so very proud.

[Quote] (And a schmucky inability to show up to memorial services on time)

If he murdered a few Palestinian children, could he coax you into supporting him, ElderNazi?

If 6 out of 10 NYC voters are Democrats, what percentage identify with progressive or democratic socialist platforms like those supported by Zohran Mamdani? Among Democratic voters, how many are likely to support such policies versus being more moderate or choosing to abstain or vote for an alternative candidate? Mamdani has a finite percentage of the voting population. His defund police and do away with prisons are just two controversial topics that many moderate Democrats find appalling.

[quote]we all know how that turned out

I don't! Why don't you tell me why it was so bad?

[quote]He said to globalize the intifada

Actually he's never said that, he may have agreed with this but he never said it. And now that he has met with Jewish leaders, he said he will discourage the use of it.

[Quote] When a muslim country treats everyone the same, and grants rights to all,

Jesus fucking Christ, the world is more ironyproof than ever.

Cuomo will likely win in a landslide.

Is R221 the same one who is insisting that Superman is a flop?

R222: Superman is on pace to finish around $600 million. That is $70 million less than Man of Steel that came out 12 years ago (adjusted for inflation, Man of Steel’s total is around $900 million today). That means 33% less people will see Superman in theaters than saw Man of Steel in theaters. And yes, Man of Steel’s budget should also be adjusted for inflation, but it was a flop back then and it’s a flop with the adjusted for inflation numbers. Face it Superman is just a bigger flop.

So Cuomo will win in a landslide because not enough people are going to see Superman.

Dingbat logic wins again.

I’d be very surprised if Cuomo even comes in second.

I live in NYC and witness its decline under DeBlasio in particular. This guy will make DeBlasio seem quaint with his no prisons/reorganizing the police to peace keeping roles. Give aways in the billions to anyone who arrives and wants free housing without work requirements. The people working and paying for everything and aren't rich with tax write offs will sour quickly.

I am, how you say, neutral observer who knows that only giving the money to the oligarchs will ever make big city run like beautiful watermill in happy village.

It is written in the sacred scrolls of Trump And Putin Are Always Right!

It’s de Blasio, not DeBlasio.

R219, he clearly agrees with the phrase. He cannot bring himself to this call to violence because he believes Jews should be killed. He cannot call out his muslim brothers because this is forbidden in islam. If he had twisted his tongue anymore in this clip, he would have choked on it.

I wonder if he will speak out against the genocide that is taking place at this moment of Christians and Druze by Syrian muslims. I am sure he, as the world, will remain silent. Is this massacre part of the intifada?

r229 is thrilled that an American was beaten to death by Israeli settlers in the West Bank. Clearly, as he cannot bring himself to condemn it, as it is forbidden by his religion. Right?

R230, you lie.

So you do condemn it r231? You think that even Israeli settlers, filled with the everlasting hate of all "canaanites" can err, even if the bitter and bloody minded Sky God commands it? You differ with people, even if they claim to worship the same god as you?

Well, good, it's a start.

[quote]I live in NYC and witness its decline under DeBlasio in particular.

If the city declined under de Blasio, it was already declining when Bloomberg was mayor. De Blasio did things - pre-K, hired people for the rent guidelines board to keep rents low, talked nice about minorities - but basically didn't do much different than Bloomberg.

Basically, he presided over an economic boom and spent all the money that came in - on the cops, on teachers, on libraries.

Exactly, r233, he was supposed to give ALL the money to rich fuckers. As God commanded, or at least the shitty fucking god cunts like r229 worship.

R232, I'm not running for mayor. The issue is Mumdani's support for global violence, including within the US.

You literally can't admit any Israeli can do something wrong ever, can you r235?

What a pathetic little cunt you are. And of course Mamdani is going to win, as the only one running who gives a fuck.

R236, this thread is about Mumdani and his support of global violence, especially towards Jews and his support of violence even in New York City which has already had its share of islamic violence in the massacre of 2,977 innocent people.

So you're mad about all the people Mamdani has killed? Who, exactly? And why exactly do you drool over violence in Gaza and the West Bank while pretending to be traumatized about violence in New York? Is it because you are a hypocritical cunt? Is that it?

R238, you are projecting your anger onto me.

My point is a simple one: Mumdani's support of global, islamic violence must be called out.

You still can't admit it at all, not even a little bit. Israel and Israelis commit violence. You can't do it. You are that kind of cunt. You need to believe your side in this global battle in your mind is perfect and without sin, cause that old Cunt in the Sky orders you to think it. You are pathetic, truly, and that is why your idiotic opinion on the NYC mayoral race is the least of your problems.

R221, you couldn't be more wrong.

Superman is a flop for people "who do their own research".

A lot of Democrats are basically conservative capitalists. They say "vote blue no matter who" until it's a leftie like Mandani.

How much can Mamdani accomplish with Kathy Hochul - or a Republican - as governor?

He can accomplish as least as much as someone who isn't trying to accomplish anything, and probably more.

R244: Very little. The City Council will impede his agenda as well.

I remember "how much can Bernie accomplish?" then we got Trump.

What Cuomo is trying to accomplish is to launch "Cuomo For President in 2028"

[quote] If the city declined under de Blasio, it was already declining when Bloomberg was mayor.

Commies love gaslighting. Reality is not their friend.

[Commies]

MARY!

Republican Capitalists like to throw out bogga booga words

Republican Capitalists = Business first

Democratic Socialist = People fitst

Schmucky de Blasio managed to get universal pre-k accomplished despite an acrimonious relationship with Cuomo and an on again off again relationship with city council because it was a good idea with popular support.

City run grocery stores in food deserts are going to save Health and Hospitals Corp a fortune, so I see that as an early easy win with the council being fully on-board. Likewise free buses will be wildly popular and have minimal financial impact. His other ideas are non-starters and he won’t know how to accomplish given his lack of experience so his mayoralty is likely to be successful.

50% of the bus riders don't pay their fare to begin with. Fares are 35% of the MTA budget (to be honest that is all fares on all modes of MTA transport). Fare evasion costs the MTA millions every year. Also, a mayor has no control over the fare. It is concerning that he doesn't know this.

The mayor can work with the governor on the fare issue. In addition to the fact that 50% of bus riders are already not paying the fare, many of the people who are tapping aren’t actually really paying either since transfers between buses and the subway are free or because they’ve hit the weekly limit on charges. So you’ve got a line of people, scanning and rescanning their credits cards/omny cards/phones and holding up the bus for multiple minutes at each stop while only about one in four are actually paying.

[quote]Commies love gaslighting. Reality is not their friend.

Nazis hate evidence. Argument by assertion is their only trick.

Luckily none of any of the four main candidates for mayor are either commies or nazis.

[quote]I remember "how much can Bernie accomplish?" then we got Trump.

Good Lord!

Do you really not realize that without Bernie's determined treachery Hillary Clinton would have beaten Trump? Bernie greased the skids for Trump like no one in America could ever do better!

[quote]Likewise free buses will be wildly popular....

....especially with the new homeless encampments on every bus!

The more I think about it, we might be better off with Sliwa and his ex-wife Lisa Evers as his ex-wife/First Lady of NY. At this point, we're already fucked in the ass beyond belief. Who cares?

Lisa Evers is Sliwa’s ex??? That explains a lot.

Nothing is free.

[quote]Luckily none of any of the four main candidates for mayor are either commies or nazis.

Except for one.

If one more of my suddenly brain dead friends gushes, "Mamdani is so YOUNG!", I'm going to scream.

As the late Carrie Fisher reminded us, "Youth is not an achievement!"

Many people don't want to believe that Mamdani is not a good person. Maybe because him being a non white or belongs to a certain religion, they want to give him a pass. And in white leftist, liberal, democratic circles, non white people are angels anyway. As per white leftist democrats, non whites don't commit crimes, are compassionate and only care for the poor, and are not racist. They have built such myths to erase any humanity from non whites. So, hey, no wonder they are desperately voting for him, especially young white women, and I see that many DL men are too.

What a ridiculous thing to say R264 when everyone knows that Adams is a criminal. (Which is why this is a competitive election and not a cake walk for the incumbent)

You could at least try to craft your racist troll talking points to the individual situation occurring. I hope your troll farm supervisor has you on a performance improvement plan.

many pollsters now divide the Democratic Party into two main factions: progressives and moderates. This split helps analysts better understand internal party dynamics, primary elections, and policy preferences among voters. Polls increasingly ask whether Democrats identify as more left-wing or centrist to gauge support for figures like AOC versus Biden. This will continue to give crazy poll results as the one here might be.

r266, it is all about methods as the policies are all the same.

R258 why wouldn’t they tie the free fare to some kind of card or id? It’s incredibly easy to sidestep this problem. It’s not like bums can’t scrounge a fare together anyway if they’re lucid enough to panhandle.

R265 What I said is not racist. Nature did not create everyone to be equal. It just does not work that way.

What does "nature" have to do with it, R269? Are you saying white people are born inherently "more equal" than non-whites?

r265 makes r264's point better than he could!

I'm still trying to figure out how our Dear Future Brown Globalized Intifada Leader came up with $65 million as the amount needed to fund bottom surgeries for the city's heroic dysphoric population who gave us our rights and also everything!

I generally don't see a lot of "panhandlers" riding city buses. If someone is evading the fare it's generally dodgy middle-class folks of all colors who just want to get away with a free ride.

It's quite easy to fare evade on crosstown busses. Just have your OMNY card ready. The MTA is inept.

R270 Let me state that I am not white. But I observe nature and how it has worked. Nature has everything to do with it. Why did Homo Sapiens survive when all other hominin groups disappeared? Nature is indifferent. However, certain traits that happened to have been selected among Europeans, which may be due to the environment, are beneficial in establishing highly industrialized and intelligent societies. We can see that happening from the time of the Greeks themselves. The Greeks were inquisitive and developed great mathematics and science. And such selection seems to have happened among East Asians as well. The Chinese were advanced in technology and invented paper, gun powder, etc. Japanese, Chinese, Korean, and Vietnamese people have some of the highest IQs in the world. So not all populations are equal. If so, all countries will try to develop in the same way. Look at East Asian economies. Though starting late, they developed fast into highly industrialized technology-driven societies, whereas south asian and African countries lag. It has to be genetic, and in my view, it is genetic. So, yes, not all people are equal when it comes to smarts. It's just that. No judgment, but that is how evolution works. Yes, it sucks to be the one dealt with different genes not adapted to modern society, but white people should not be embarrassed about their genetic heritage. And you can see that white men's genes are built for endurance, which is apparent in Tennis matches. They seem to be constantly apologetic, especially democrats, which is kind of disgusting. Their abject debasement of themselves just to satisfy some equality or equity which does not exist is kind of so off-putting. You may not agree, but that is the reality, and for them to cede to people just to virtue signal is horrible.

R274, in the modern world, it has to do with education and opportunities. These are the only ways in which people are not equal. No one is born inherently inferior.

R274 reveals his lack of education and his inability to manifest a strong argument in his rambling, incoherent posts. All he really seems to be saying is that people who try not to discriminate are fools because white people are inherently better than others. And somehow tennis (weirdly capitalized as though it were a proper noun) proves his point.

[quote] And you can see that white men's genes are built for endurance, which is apparent in Tennis matches.

Gee, R274, I thought black men's bodies were built for endurance in sports like basketball, football, marathons. I mean, if you want to talk in stereotypes.

R275 No one is inferior. I did not say that. I said adaptation due to inherent gentics has led certain races to be successful. There are huge differences in how intelligence happens to exist between siblings, given all things equal. Same parents, same cultural environment, same access to schools, books, etc. That is genetic. Anyway, I consider most people who cannot seem to gauge how nature works or interpret what they observe not to be possessive of analytical capabilities. You are too afraid to say things out because of being labeled as racist or whatnot. Case in point R276. R277 Yes, black men's genetic heritage has been optimized as well for strength and fast response due to environmental conditions. I am not sure about endurance, as I haven't looked into analyzing that. If lack of body hair and sweat glands in general happen to have happened among East Asians, why are you unwilling to believe that the same genetic selection has not been operating at the level of intelligence? Northern Europeans are some of the tallest people on the planet. How did that happen? Selection. If physical characteristics happen due to selection, why are brains beyond selection? It is the same way IQ also operates. People who want to deny are Marxists and leftists because they are unwilling to admit that intelligence differences exist. If they did not, then there would have been no humans, no primates etc.

[quote] If physical characteristics happen due to selection, why are brains beyond selection? It is the same way IQ also operates. People who want to deny are Marxists and leftists because they are unwilling to admit that intelligence differences exist.

So you ARE some people are inherently inferior in intelligence, R278. And your throwing in "Marxists and leftists" says a lot.

Curious, are you an American and, if so, who did you vote for in the 2024 election?

Actually, R274/R278, you absolutely said some people are inherently inferior and always have been when you said:

[quote] So, yes, not all people are equal when it comes to smarts. It's just that. No judgment, but that is how evolution works.

But "no judgment," huh, R274/R278?

R280 I said not equal when it comes to smarts. You are translating into your interpretation as inferior. It's just like height differences are not equal. So, a short person is inferior?

R282, if they don't have the same "smarts," that means inherently intellectually inferior. That's what you're saying.

By the way, again, a casual question: who did you vote for in '24, if you voted?

Are you saying black people are among those in the world who are inherently intellectually inferior, R282, et al? Because, if so, I would gladly put up the intellectual capabilities of Angela Davis and Toni Morrison and Martin Luther King, Jr, and Malcolm X and James Baldwin, to name just five right off the top of my head, against your sterling intellect any day of the week, any hour of the day..

Holy shit! This thread got hijacked into another dimension.

I totally forgot about the $65 million for castration/construction dumb idea. Zohan seems especially obsessed with trannies.

R285, Cuomo must be "obsessed" as well. His stance on trans via AI:

Based on his record as Governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo consistently supported policies and legislation aimed at protecting and expanding the rights of transgender individuals. Specifically, Cuomo:

Signed the Gender Expression Non-Discrimination Act (GENDA): This legislation, enacted in January 2019, explicitly prohibits discrimination based on gender identity or expression in New York State law, covering areas such as employment, housing, education, and public accommodations. Previously, in October 2015, Cuomo had already issued regulations through the New York State Human Rights Law to ban harassment and discrimination against transgender people.

Banned Conversion Therapy: Cuomo signed legislation expanding the definition of professional misconduct for licensed professionals to include engaging in conversion therapy with minors, effectively banning the practice in New York.

Protected Transgender Healthcare: Cuomo directed state agencies to issue regulations expanding anti-discrimination protections for transgender individuals accessing healthcare and insurance, particularly in response to potential federal rollbacks of Affordable Care Act provisions, according to the Division of Human Rights (.gov). He also announced actions to ensure transgender individuals seeking gender dysphoria treatment have the same appeal rights as other health insurance policyholders, says www.dfs.ny.gov.

Reinforced Transgender Student Protections: In response to federal changes regarding transgender students' rights, Cuomo directed the State Education Department to issue guidance affirming that New York State law protects transgender students from discrimination and harassment in schools.

Supported Repeal of the "Walking While Trans" Law: Cuomo publicly supported the repeal of a controversial statute criticized for disproportionately targeting transgender women and ultimately signed the legislation repealing it in 2021.

Promoted Inclusive State Employment Policies: The Governor's Office of Employee Relations released a Gender Identity Toolkit to serve as a training resource for state employees to ensure non-discriminatory services for and interactions with transgender individuals in state employment, according to the New York State Office of Mental Health (OMH) (.gov).

While some may point to his campaign strategies in the 2025 NYC mayoral election, where he seemingly focused less on LGBTQ+ specific issues, his gubernatorial record demonstrates a clear and consistent stance in favor of transgender rights and protections.

[quote]many pollsters now divide the Democratic Party into two main factions: progressives and moderates

I am hard-pressed to remember a time when this was not the case. The exact names may have varied, but this dichotomy has always defined the Democratic Party.

R287 is completely correct. Once again, pollsters are useless.

Yet the faction of Democrats who insist they are "progressives" have made ZERO PROGRESS on anything other than peeing in our pool and tipping elections to Republicans which they are actually proud of!

What progress of any kind have Bernie, AOC, Mamdani, or the Squad ever accomplished? NOTHING at all is the correct answer!

We hear the snarling when you say "moderates", yet every bit of progress we currently enjoy is their doing!

Zohan was waving a trans flag during the GAY Pride parade. Maybe there is a middle age transition in his cards, paid for by the City of New York, hence the $65 million for trans surgery.

[quote] was waving a trans flag during the GAY Pride parade.

Wow, R290--he was waving a flag. Horrors.

trans come from all over to get the free surgery that NYC taxpayers pay for. yes, taxpayers who have no choice in the matter pay for any and all who make their way to NYC to get a free apartment, food stamps, and medicaid. the abuse of the tax dollar is never ending with the woke politicians. tax increases and diminished city services will all happen when the socialists takes over. anyone who does like it is called a mean and nasty name by the same woke who want to cancel everyone for name calling, si senor!

Oh, so now he's a trans suporter. Every faux-outrage is just more nonsense. Such desperation.

But how does he feel about Dorothy Killgallen?

if he's woke, he is a trans supporter and Jew hater, in a general sense, hehe

Cuomo went all in on the T stuff too. Can't use that stuff to criticize Mamdani.

LOVE to hear it.

Cuomo can go to hell.

^^^Cuomo can say he was traumatized by PUSSY& didn't know they were talking about Trannies-trannies are weird. ^^^

The troll farms really need to work on improving their product.

At this point they just sound like AI-driven buzzword generators.

[quote]Oh, so now he's a trans suporter. Every faux-outrage is just more nonsense.

Uhm, this is not new, it was part of his platform and rhetoric long before such things as elections and candidates got your attention, Mr. Dilettante!

What part of the $65 million bucks are you chipping in?

[quote]At this point they just sound like AI-driven buzzword generators.

Yep. The constant use of "woke" is always a dead giveaway.

Uhm, R300, then who do you prefer as mayor? The criminal Adams or the corrupt Cuomo? Orberet-wearing Sliwa? That's a more relevant question than Mamdani supporting trans people. So why don't you answer that direct question?

Still waiting, R300. It's not enough to attack Mamadani. Who of those three do you prefer as mayor, and why?

*Mamdani

Not surprising that when it comes down to the brass tacks of those three ratbags (Cuomo, Adams, Sliwa), and who among them has more to recommend to run NYC, it's RADIO SILENCE from the Mamdani haters. Zzzzzzz.

My bags will be packed and ready to visit as soon as he is elected, if it drives down the cost of a holiday. Imagine N.Y.C being as affordable to visit as Philly!

If it means exchanging services and safety for a cheaper holiday, so be it. Luxury hotels and cruise ships in Spain and Portugal are currently begging for tourists due to all the political instability over there. Radical government, anti-police, pro-migrant. Look what's happening to California.

I don't vote for Jew-haters and frankly, his entitled dilettantism will force me to vote for Cuomo, whom I don't like, but he's experienced and not a proud anti-Semite. I'm also not a "Democratic Socialist", and feel people who aren't Democrats should not be allowed to run on the Democratic Party line on the ballot.

Mamdani has ZERO relevant experience on his CV. I myself and more qualified to be mayor!

[quote] Cuomo, whom I don't like, but he's experienced and not a proud anti-Semite.

Mamdani is is not an anti-Semite, except in your head, R307, but thanks for your answer.

He's a failed rapper, nepo baby, and sounds like Kermit the Frog when he speaks, but at least he is passionate and wears nice suits.

Aand what's Adams, R309? What's Cuomo? What's Slwa?

What exactly will Cuomo or Adams or Sliwa do for NYC?

RADIO SILENCE on my question.

R311 What are you expecting from Mamdani? Free rent? Free bus rides? Are people in NYC so desperately poor? Rents are high everywhere in the world in big cities. It is a matter of supply and demand, and where jobs are. The same young people will lament if businesses migrate out of the city because of crime or tax burdens. Most people don't seem or have any clue that most employment is generated by small businesses that do not make much profit and work with slim margins. He wants to tax them and break them. It's like repeating the same failed experiments over and over again and expecting different results. He is not the brightest bulb, his ideas are regurgitated nonsense from Marxist theory. I guess ignorance is bliss.

Okay, R313, so what do Cuomo or Adams or Sliwa offer to the issues that catapulted Mamdani?

Is life so terrible under Adams in NYC? Was life so bad when Cuomo was the governor? Did he not enact a lot of progressive Democratic priorities, still balancing the need for good economics? I am not following the NYC mayor except for my deep dislike for Mamdani and AOC, and DSA. These people are pure evil.

Because people bang on about Mamdani and his inexperience, but what about Cuomo, or (God forbid, the criminal) Adams, or the completely inexperienced Sliwa, do you expect will help NYC? What are they offering that you respond to?

Will Mamdani's policies have the same effects on small business as Sadiq's London?

R317, are you asking us to compare one city in one country to another city in another?

R291, it's not horrorful, silly. The boy has some sort of fetish with the trannies and tranny mutilation, to the tune of $65 million taxpayers' dollars.

Zzzzzz, R319.

Simple question for Mamdani: Was October 7th a HAMAS terrorist attack? If he has to spin and circle and give a non-answer or qualify an answer, then he is unqualified to be NYC mayor. The only answer is YES.

Mamdani defends sanctuary city laws which allow criminals with deportation orders to not be deported when arrested in NYC for crimes. The city just had a border agent shot in a park by a serial criminal from Dom. Rep. with a 2023 deportation order. He was arrested several times since and never deported. This is insane. Just another day of wokeness in NYC, or instead of wokeness should I say far left liberal policies which moderate Dems never agreed with. Wokeness should not be offensive when used to described people who stand for the socialist policies that have come to define today's NYC. Loony woke, sure that is obnoxious, but just using woke or wokeness should not enrage the same people who created the term to describe themselves.

Jump in a bonfire, R322.

These threads are great for blocking trolls. They self identify in every post.

R324 Remember your own words here when you are waiting on a rooftop for your turn. Gay men can be so clueless.

[quote]Mamdani is is not an anti-Semite, except in your head...

Oh, dear.

I hate to burst your rainbows + sunshine bubble, but no matter how you deny it, "Globalize the intifada!" is the fucking rallying cry of anti-semites worldwide! You're showing your ignorance.

I completely agree, R326, and, by extension, jihad. Pro-terrorist protestors often have isis and other jihadi groups flags in abundance, in western cities. Most people refuse to see what is staring them in the face or can accept 1,300 years of insane brutality that is being repeated today around the globe daily. Keep telling the truth.

Mamdani isn't going to win by accident, or because of a split vote.

He has energized the base. He has energized young people. And everyone wants a fucking change.

Plus we New Yorkers LOATHE Adams. LOATHE. And not because he's Black. But because he should be in jail, not in office. And he knows it.

And we don't take Sliwa seriously. As for Cuomo, he can't just skate by on his name any longer, and he's SOOOOOO awkward with the press now because he wants to avoid questions about all the groping he's done in the past.

Mamdani is going to crush all these men. I'll be voting for him, and I didn't know who he was until very, very recently. He's the only acceptable choice.

[quote] Mamdani isn't going to win by accident, or because of a split vote.

He will benefit from New Yorkers propensity to engage in self-destructive behavior at the ballot box.

Same here, R328.

R330 and R328. When things go bad in New York and crime shoots up, and you are being hauled up to a roof, you will be so glad you voted for this loser. Your reasoning is so absurd. Preferring a person who is openly in favor of genocide versus Adams, who may have committed some minor election rule violation. Very true, the choice is stark.

The majority of Democratic voters are sickened by ultra-Zionists and their campaign of genocide being blindly and vocally supported by tone deaf and out-of-touch party elites. Cuomo was never going to win and he's certainly not winning as an unpopular, scandal-tainted independent in a 4 way race, especially since he can't shut up about Israel.

Should Mamdani condemn "globalize the Intifada?" Maybe, if only for political points, not because it's anti-Semitic, which it is not. But the people who care about that are never going to vote for him anyway. He could say he supports Israel 100% now and there would still be right wing trolls on DL claiming to be "liberal democrats" while warning us that all Muslims, including Mamdani, want to impose Sharia law and throw gay people off of roofs.

R331, you simply don't know what you're talking about. Actual New Yorkers will vote as we see fit, thanks very much. End of discussion on that.

Exactly r332. The whole thing is so moronic, and when people are reduced to making completely moronic threats, you know they have literally nothing else to say.

Nobody sane thinks anything bad is going to happen to gay people in New York City when Mamdani is elected. Nobody. The only reason anybody even talks about throwing gay people off roofs is because they have absolutely nothing else to say, no actual reason to vote for Cuomo or Adams or Sliwa. So why not try that and hope that everybody is as stupid as they are?

The term "antisemitic" has lost a lot of power recently, mostly because of how trigger-happy people have gotten in using the term to apply to anybody with the wrong skin color. It has made actual antisemitism like nazi-saluting Elon way more dangerous.

Jews criticizing a foreign government and their own governments support for it are labeled anti-Semitic now. It's lost all meaning. It used to be that conflating Jews with Israel was anti-Semitic. Now you're anti-Semitic if you aren't 100% loyal to Israel's government.

I genuinely feel bad for Jews because this is going to be weaponized more and more against them until the lines are blurred completely. Real anti-semitism will be normalized while speaking out against genocide will be the "new anti-semitism." The people doing this think we're too stupid to see what they're doing but they're being so obvious about it.

Mamdani is on the same page as AOC for NYC as a sanctuary city. The criminals just keep winning. As a result it gets worse for everyone. Most law abiding NYers agree that these policies allowed undocumented immigrants with multiple criminal records—specifically two Dominican nationals this weekend—to be repeatedly released rather than transferred to ICE, and one of these individuals allegedly shot an off-duty CBP officer in Fort Washington Park. Failure to hold offenders accountable endangers public safety, claiming that the shooter and his accomplice were able to commit more crimes because city authorities didn’t cooperate with federal agencies. Why are we protecting this type of criminal? It is beyond bad politics for Democrats

DHS Kristi dress up now vowed to “double down” federal enforcement in sanctuary cities by flooding NYC with ICE and DHS resources and equipment, essentially blaming Mayor Adams and the City Council for what she views as a preventable tragedy So thanks to the NYC City Council NYC will be a police state with the Feds in masks showing up everywhere.

[quote] Jews criticizing a foreign government and their own governments support for it are labeled anti-Semitic now.

While some in fact may be self-loathing, the rest are not antisemitic, but rather support people and causes that are antisemitic. Keep in my mind that ordinary criticism of the Israeli government is not antisemitic. It only becomes antisemitic when it crosses the line into the egregiously false accusations that Israeli Jews are bloodthirsty and want to kill all Palestinians and especially their children (i.e. genocide), or other accusations that are also beyond the pale.

R338 A recent poll of the Israeli public revealed the 47% of the population wants to exterminate every man, woman, and child living in Gaza.

Need a link on that r339, and need to know what the exact question is. It may be true, but some vague poll with some vague question won't work in this instance.

The article is in Hebrew, but if you have a Haaretz subscription you can read. The question was "Do you support the claim that the [Israeli army] in conquering an enemy city, should act in a manner similar to the way the Israelites did when they conquered Jericho under the leadership of Joshua, ie to kill all its inhabitants?"

47% said yes.

It wasn’t a poll by Penn State or by a polling company. It was a “survey” that Professor Tamir Sorek, who works at Penn State, claims he did. Not surprisingly, other than Haaretz, legitimate news organizations aren’t touching it or giving it credence.

Whatever helps you sleep at night!

[quote] in conquering an enemy city, should act in a manner similar to the way the Israelites did when they conquered Jericho under the leadership of Joshua, ie to kill all its inhabitants

See, this is such a fucking convoluted way of putting it, it makes me question the whole thing. Like they're really asking, do you believe the shit and nonsense in the Torah or not, dammit? And I'm not saying Israel is acting well. They ain't. They're clearly being cunts throughout all of Gaza these days, pretty much for the fuck of it, cause at this point we all know there ain't no actual plan. It's just killing for killing's sake. But asking the question in such a stupid way seems more about playing games than getting real answers.

257. ENTERTAINMENT LAWYER 07/20 **3** This soon to be city A++ lister used to hook up with this 1/435th not that many years ago. Zohran Mamdani/”New York City Mayor”/Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Not surprised AOC is a muslim cock chaser. I wonder what Mrs. Mamdani thinks of her.

great, so now we're down to vote for the crook or the sex pest cause, um, AOC likes Muslim cock, or not, or maybe, or who the fuck cares. The point is some cunts are traumatized about taxing the rich and THAT MUST NEVER EVER BE ALLOWED, DAMMIT!

[quote]Mamdani is on the same page as AOC for NYC as a sanctuary city. The criminals just keep winning

Oh Please, come back and talk to us about criminals winning when you kick the felon with 24 convictions out of the White House.

Are we supposed to be having the vapors because two thirty-somethings had sex back when they were both twenty something and single?

Read the room division trolls, and stop posting until you have solid intel on Mamdani’s choice of mayonnaise.

R337, obviously that would be the fault of the Trump administration, which wants to declare war on Democratic cities. I suspect, though, that the logistics of invading NYC will be pretty daunting.

Apparently most of Cuomo's response team consists of New York Republicans from the outer boroughs.

Which certainly explain the trolls.

[quote]The majority of Democratic voters are sickened by ultra-Zionists and their campaign of genocide...

ANTI-SEMITE MARY!

Wow, you jihadists can really talk yourself into anything!

Is Alabama a borough now? How about Vladivostok?

R332, "Globalize the Intifada" its a call to terrorism on a major scale and across the globe. The intifadas included numerous suicide bombers on buses, restaurants and cafes throughout Israel. The pogrom of October 7th was part of the intifada. Slaughtering and raping innocent kids at a music festival is OK? Slaughtering families, burning the alive is OK? What do you think intifada actually means? A fucking ride in Disneyland?

I don't think Mamdani's reading the room when it comes to NYC. He'll get 100% of the muslim vote, this is always true. When given a choice, they will always vote muslim. He did badly in the primary in working/middle class neighborhoods of color (he did well in Chinese neighborhoods and I really think something went down in those.). There are many hard working middle class Black and Caribbean neighborhoods that want safe neighborhoods, good schools, a viable, livable city. They don't want freebies and they don't want to give handouts to losers.

So he didn't win the primary r354? Who did? Cuomo? Adams? Netanyahu?

Spin, little GOP apparatchik R354, spin!

R355, hun, it was only the democratic primary and few democrats even voted. What I said about the primary vote is accurate.

Call me names all you want R356. I'm a registered democrat, NYC native with a brain. Show me where I am wrong. I'll listen and consider.

Yeah, but I suspect Cuomo has a 10” lead over Mamdani, more importantly.

Because the NYC City Council refuses to do anything about sanctuary city status for NYC, migrant criminals are running the streets like it is a 3rd world nation. Mamdani support this. The Feds are going to flood the zone soon and it will be interesting to see how Mayor Almost Felon Adams tries to blame the council. Soon it will be Mamdani's problem to fix, which he won't. I guess we should all get use to "flood the zone" with masked agents everywhere because our own City Council refuses to protect us. Maybe Mamdani will be a blessing in disguise for the Federal response to what he does or doesn't do. NYC needs law and order, not communist food banks and closed prisons.

No one is saying what Cuomo or Adams or Sliwa have to offer. It’s just suck it up, or you will get the scary Muslim who will push gays off buildings and put on a suicide vest.

Well, R361, we know what Zohan offers: free buses, $65 million dollars of taxpayers' money for free trans mutilations, BDS, support of suicide bombings and the murder of innocent people in the name of a global islamic intifada. He also wants city run grocery stores when NYC couldn't even run a gambling racket successfully. Other than that, I'm really not sure what Zohan is proposing. Educate me.

^^^I forgot one: Tax the Rich!

Yup r361, it's just Scary Muslim Man replacing Scary Black Man as the reason everybody must vote only and always for the whores of the rich. It's a very tired refrain, and NYC appears to tired of it, which is a good thing.

[quote]NYC needs law and order

The current NYPD budget for fiscal year 2026 is $6.15 billion

[quote] migrant criminals are running the streets like it is a 3rd world nation.

That's a lie, R360.

[quote] NYC needs law and order

More bullshit.

R364, you are unhinged. The working and middle class across the city want the same things. Many White people voted for Adams. I forgave him for his comment about admittedly making life difficult for White police supervisors, I forgave him for call White people crackers. His support for Israel and Jews after 10/7 earned him major points with me (No, I am not Jewish. I believe in civilization.). He fucked up in office, but he is from NYC, he knows the city, he cares about the city. He knows it is about making life better for the working and middle class, not the fucking bloodsucking losers.

What NYC needs is safe streets.

What it does *not* need is cops racking up millions of dollars of overtime loafing in the Times Square MTA station playing video games on their phones.

They just snuck this in at some point in Adams' tenure and continued to throw money at cops to sit on their asses all day. How in the fuck is *that* effective policing?

It's amazing how many lies like the ones R360 spews keep getting repeated, even though they're known to be lies. It's a real trait of our Trumper times. R360 even speaks like Trump would. Our DearLeader has really had his infuence.

I for one will be giggling like a schoolgirl when R360 gets tossed into the Heteronormative Reeducation Camps.

[quote] He fucked up in office, but he is from NYC, he knows the city, he cares about the city. He knows it is about making life better for the working and middle class, not the fucking bloodsucking losers.

How exactly has he shown that he cares about the working and middle class. Mostly it seems the only thing he's done in your eyes is express support for Israel and support Netanyahu, which seems to be the one and only thing you care about other than serving the rich.

The Wall Street boys are going to push somebody off a bridge. The question is who: Eric, Andrew, or the red beret wearing cat Daddy? Bloomberg as an Independent beat Fernando Ferrer the Democrat. Being a Democrat is not a guaranteed anything these days, especially a fringy one at that. By fall it will start to shake out a bit.

I gather from that ramble through the asylum r372 that you have not yet accepted the reality that Mamdani will be the next mayor of New York City. Well, I'm sorry, but you must accept that, and let the healing begin.

[quote]migrant criminals are running the streets like it is a 3rd world nation.

Funny, the crack-smoking scary dangerous street people I see in midtown every day are almost exclusively black Americans. The same riff-raff we've always had. What country did they sneak in from, Liberia?

I just don't understand why they feel the need to make up these wild fantasies of imminent societal breakdown. Maybe they've seen too many zombie movies.

The fact that Mamdani think deBlasio was a great mayor is worrisome.

deBlasio and his "ex"-lesbian ex-wife so grifted NYC for billions for projects that never saw the light of day, they were practically Republicans.

Mamdani, AOC, DeBlasio are not your friend's and family's Dem party. They are anti-business, anti-white, and anti-globalists who want to re-do govt into their own personal utopia where the govt plays Robin Hood and takes from one group to give to another. Law and order are annoyances. Time will tell if NYC devolves into Venezuela which was once a great and prosperous country until Dem Socialist Chavez came into office. I think a local city has too many Federal laws to comply with which will slow down the destruction, but a lot of damage still can happen.

[quote]Mamdani, AOC, DeBlasio are not your friend's and family's Dem party. They are anti-business, anti-white, and anti-globalists who want to re-do govt into their own personal utopia

So in other words they are not Bill Clinton right of center corporate Democrats. GOOD! We are done with that. And so are most of the voters under 40.

Look at the other candidates they are trying to push on us - Cuomo, Sliwa, Adams. They are all totally repellent, so the strategy is to demonize Mamdani through any means. It’s not the 90s or 2000s, and New York is not the Rust Belt.

If you really want one of these cretins in office, you’re going to need a better strategy,

I mean the obvious answer to R377 is that DeBlasio was in office for 8 years and somehow NYC still has businesses, police and white people.

There are many voters left who haven't died out conveniently who find Mamdani and his views repellant as well.

It's comical to see all these comments from trolls who are obviously NOT New Yorkers and will NOT be voting here for mayor in the fall.

Folks, you're so out of touch with those of us in the city that it's clear from just a sentence or two that you're not one of us.

Most New Yorkers are not drowning in Fox propaganda and fear. Most New Yorkers are furious with the status quo. And most of us will be voting for Mamdani. Not because he's perfect, cause he isn't, but because all the other candidates are in one way or another laughably odious and unelectable. I'm stunned by the blind businessmen who are throwing money at Adams right now, as if he had even the remotest chance of getting re-elected.

He does not. He's a grotesque charlatan, and we are incredibly disappointed in him.

R248 Or at least a return to Albany.

R382 I don't live in New York..and don't pretend to on DL. There's nothing you said that I don't already know. (I would also be voting for Mamdani if I lived there.)

r382 is a mindreader who knows what everyone wants and what they're thinking.

Oh, dear.

R385 is mixing her metaphors.

Oh dear, indeed.

R385,

Ha! Far from it. I said MOST. The plurality. But certainly not everyone. There is absolutely nothing that everyone in NYC agrees about. Except perhaps that 9/11 was a shitty day. And even then I bet there's a dissenter somewhere.

But I can assure you that Eric Adams has a better chance of winning RuPaul's Drag Race than he does of being re-elected mayor of The Big Apple.

[quote] There is absolutely nothing that everyone in NYC agrees about. Except perhaps that 9/11 was a shitty day. And even then I bet there's a dissenter somewhere.

Yes, Trump. He was thrilled at the thought (erroneous, of course) that now he owned the tallest building in NYC (it was the Empire State, at the time, in fact).

Once again, a quick note for DL trollfarm supervisors:

"Escape from New York" is NOT, I repeat NOT, a documentary. It was over the top in 1979 and is more so now.

Thanks for your attention to this matter.

Everything so-called progressives touch turns to shit. These people are not ready for primetime. Jews better get the hell out of there. It’s going to get really ugly under this antisemitic moron.

Zohran Mamdani’s is way ahead in the polls because: 1. his music shows his love for those who provide material support to Hamas 2. shutting down major transportation hubs with rush-hour protests 3. refusing to condemn calls for a globalized intifada 4. flipping off Christopher Columbus 5. desire to defund the police 6. close jails to create a place where criminals can relax and chill If he wins, I won't be shocked at all.

GO Mamdani!!!

Eric Adams reminds me of Algonquin J. Calhoun.

I say HOORAY FOR ZOHRAN!!!

All the DL guys cheering for Mamdani will regret it soon when their heads are chopped off. Well, once they are dead,d there is nothing to regret anyway. Seriously, are so many gay DLs living so precariously that they seem to be compelled to vote for this bozo mediocre guy? I guess this is what happens if you end up studying art or some obscure gender studies or English lit. No future except for doles from the government.

I ask people I know who are enthralled with Mamdani what they like most about him and the two most popular answers are-

He's so young!

He's brown!

Wow. These are QUALIFICATIONS to them! When I mention my many serious personal and policy concerns they look blankly at me or get slightly enraged and say, "Well, you just SAY that!", but when I bring quotes and receipts they say, "Well, I never heard any of that and I'm still voting for him!"

Try it with your own addled friends!

Maybe you should find smarter friends, R395. But you sound pretty low-rent yourself, so maybe you're all meant for each other. But isn't it charming that you place yourself as their educator.

R394,

I have two Master's degrees (one of which is a professional degree from an Ivy League institution and is not in the slightest artsy), speak four languages and have worked on three continents. I'm also an in-demand public speaker and an award-winning author. And I'll be voting for Mamdani because he's the only acceptable candidate.

But sure, tell me and all us other NYC gays how pathetic we all are.

[quote]Everything so-called progressives touch turns to shit.

I beg to differ, under my watch California went from the 5th largest economy in the world to the 4th. Larger than the UK, Japan, India and France.

Dole Whip from the government sounds delightful R394.

When he covers himself in explosives and plans to walk into Times Square to take down hundreds of people with his cell phone set off by an accomplice but is instead blown up by a phone text advertising new job opportunities before leaving the room let me know.

R307 - stupid as the day is long.

R394 Nice fear mongering.

Folks, be nice to R394. After all, slow adults have it rough as it is.

R395 I like Zohran Mamdani’s passion for making NYC more affordable for regular people. He’s got a knack for connecting with folks, winning a record-breaking 565,639 votes in the mayoral primary. His big ideas, like free city buses to cut transit costs and a rent freeze for stabilized housing to ease the burden on tenants, show he’s serious about tackling the city’s housing and poverty issues head-on.

Can't WAIT for him to win.

R403, If regular people cannot afford to live there, they should not live there. It is always expecting dole outs. Always. Losers are so desperate to vote for doles. No self-respect.

[quote]His big ideas, like free city buses to cut transit costs and a rent freeze for stabilized housing...

Nobody who doesn't feel like paying to ride a bus pays now. Many NYers rarely ride buses and kids and seniors already pay reduced fares. Fact. It's just not a big change.

Most NYers do not live in rent-stabilized apartments. I actually do, and my rent is very reasonable now. There is a board that determines increases for regulated rents which is 50-50 mayoral appointees and landlords. How will that be legally usurped? How will the mayor prevent landlords from giving tenants fewer repairs and services?

My main beef is Mamdani's complete lack of experience ever getting anything accomplished. "Good ideas" are a dime a dozen, but the ability to execute them is everything, and he has no such track record. We cannot afford another de Blasio.

Young voters are finished with Trump and MAGA. Mamdani is picking them up in droves.

Harris poll(mid‑July): In a pure two‑candidate race (Cuomo vs. Mamdani), Cuomo leads by around 15 points. This tells me that there is some sanity in NYC still. People who value law and order and want to keep some of their money from their job(s) and not give it all to taxes for every flavor of social services. Only time will tell of course. If you feel strongly about Mamdani or Cuomo, get involved. I see what has happened in places where Dem socialism has destroyed once prosperous nations, think Venezuela, and shudder at the thought of a Mamdani win. However, I will not name call and shriek if Mamdani does win. I hope people reading this will promise to do the same.

Newsweek has them even Steven in a 2 candidate race. I'm pretty sure Cuomo will now try harder to buy out Adams. And Adams has shown that he's always open to the highest bidder!

[quote] However, I will not name call and shriek if Mamdani does win.

You’re shrieking as is R407

Poll shows that Adams has a higher unfavorable rating than Trump in NYC. His candidacy makes no sense.

Black voters will cry foul if Adams is pushed out.

Black voters hate Adams.

[quote]I like Zohran Mamdani’s passion for making NYC more affordable for regular people. He’s got a knack for connecting with folks

Folks? Cut the MSNBC bullshit. This guy is an Islamist. Get your head out of your ass.

criminals, migrants, and fare evaders all love this guy, why not the rest of us?

R414 because you're low IQ.

He wants a $30.00 minimum wage in New York City. Businesses will close and big businesses will simply replace human labor with AI. You have to be deaf, dumb, or blind to believe that anything positive will come out of a Mamdani administration.

Oh please R416. It's $25 min in places like West Hollywood and it's not nearly as expensive as NYC. You cant expect poor people to pay 4k for a closet in the city and still pay min wage.

I'd be fascinated to hear how the people opposed to socialism would deal with housing and affordability in general.

I have a feeling it's something like "Suck it up, bitch. Stay poor. Suffer."

He said ethnic cleansing is bad.

ANTISEMITE!!!

Wasn't Kamala doing well in polling? That worked out in her favor.

I think Cuomo is pulling ahead and will most likely take over NYC.

[quote]I think Cuomo is pulling ahead and will most likely take over NYC.

And he'll do what, exactly?

Cuomo is a radical moderate. We cannot have that. Look where that got us. We need a course correction. ASAP.

Socialism has failed everywhere it's been tried. It will fail in NYC too.

R424, we certainly don’t want to be Norway or Sweden now would we?

NYC has nothing in common with Norway or Sweden and their strict immigration policies. Norway or Sweden would never be offering free $300 nights hotels to migrants and allow criminals to run the streets and subways with impunity.

Are Swedish and Norwegian immigration policies all that strict? The percentage of the population in those countries that is foreign born is higher than in the US.

(I do understand that New York has always had more immigrants than the US as a whole.)

R420, the pollsters with a better handle on Harris voters, e.g., Atlas Intel, were not showing her in the lead in the battleground states. Even the others showed Trump doing better there than in their polls of the ‘16 & ‘20 campaigns. It’s why some of us were not surprised that he won.

[quote]criminals to run the streets and subways with impunity

Is that's what's happening?

A socialist Muslim with the experience of a boy on a tricycle and a corrupt sexual predator catholic. New York is filled with choices.

New York produces the worst politicians anywhere.

Norway and Sweden are not socialist, r425.

R432, they are examples of democratic socialism.

Norway and Sweden aren't examples of any kind of socialism, r433. They are not socialist economies in any way, shape or form. They are in fact highly advanced capitalist economies with very open markets.

Funny how the caveats about socialism apply to Norway and Sweden, but not Mamdani. The countries are judged by reality, while the individual is judged by wild fantasies.

How z won. Lander was everyone’s 2nd choice.

[quote] Cuomo is a radical moderate. We cannot have that. Look where that got us.

Insufferable hysterical fraus took him down. The far Left fringe is destroying one city after the next.

New York City gave us Trump.

Some primitive people still believe that myth, r438.

That’s a great article R436.

Sliwa is the only option. YIKES.

[quote] Some primitive people still believe that myth

Myth? Donald grew up in Queens and his address was Trump Tower on 5th Avenue for decades. He's a New Yorker. We're not happy about it, but there it is.

[quote]Socialism has failed everywhere it's been tried. It will fail in NYC too

Many would say the same thing about the U.S. right now.

[quote]Norway and Sweden aren't examples of any kind of socialism...They are not socialist economies in any way, shape or form...they highly advanced capitalist economies

WRONG. They have socialist policies laced throughout society such as free college education, free child care, universal health care just to name a few. Capitalizm does not embrace free stuff for the poor or middle class. Nor does it accept and embrace higher taxes to pay for it.

That’s not socialism.

R444 never passed his intro to politics course in college. Social democracy does not = socialism. Western Europe and Canada are socialist only in your fever dreams.

For those who believe Mamdani is the savior of socialism and will magically lower prices on everything—turning our society into Sweden or Norway overnight—try moving there now. Your visa will likely be rejected faster than a Section 8 application is denied for a low-income worker who pays taxes and has 3 roommates splitting the rent.

[quote]For those who believe Mamdani is the savior of socialism and will magically lower prices on everything

He's not promising that and no one believes he will. It's your MAGA friends who believe a political figure has that power

R447 here. Who has MAGA friends? Not me! Hehehe. But hey, if that’s what it takes to make everything all better, then sure—believe it to be true!"

Mamdani is hardly a savior, but he’s running against two criminals and a crazy cat lad.

And those three numnutz are splitting the anti-Mamdani vote because their egos are large and their sense of civic responsibility is small to non-existent.

Frankly I don’t give a shit about Israel anymore.

Mamdani has a Muslim pal in Minneapolis, Omar Fateh, running for mayor who agrees with minimizing police and blames whites our current problems.

OP news story is from three weeks ago.

R435, Mamdani is the one who describes himself as a socialist.

R444, absolutely nothing you have listed is anything to do with socialism. Almost all European countries have those things and many/most countries in the world do too. According to you, most of the world is socialist. Except, a welfare state and public spending are not socialism.

Socialism is about state control of the economy.

R454 no he does not. He identifies as a democratic socialist—and a watered down one at that—which is a very different thing.

Chairman Maodani has said "the ultimate goal is to seize the means of production." That could be a line straight out of Das Kapital. Don't be fooled. He is a marxist, and a stupid one at that.

The stupidest people are Sliwa, Eric Adams and Cuomo who are going to ensure a Mamdani victory secondary to their quixotic and narcissistic campaigns against him and each other.

R456, what's the difference a socialist and a "democratic socialist"? The term "democratic socialist" is an American invention used only in America, by the way.

It boils down to the US version of European social democracy—a modern welfare state.

Democratic socialists favor socialist policies like healthcare for all and free college education, implemented democratically by voters at the ballot box ."Democratic socialism" is a term used around the world in many languages. You can stop spreading misinformation, R459. We're smarter than you take us for and, from the looks of it, smarter than yourself.

Like all communists, they live large while the little people suffer.

R461, can you find any politician outside of the US who describes himself/herself as a "democratic socialist"? Everyone outside of the US just says they're a socialist.

[quote]socialist policies like healthcare for all and free college education, implemented democratically by voters at the ballot box

That is not socialism, that is average policy in many countries, especially many capitalist countries. That could describe almost all of Europe (except the UK, with the socialist Labour government, as we have university fees, but way more welfare benefits than the rest of Europe), including all the countries with right-wing/centre-right/captalist governments in Europe. Public spending on health and education is not socialism. Socialism is state control of the means of production.

You obviously know very little about politics around the world.

Like all leftists, he loves capitalism but tricks people into believing socialism is better and will make everyone happy.

[quote] [R461], can you find any politician outside of the US who describes himself/herself as a "democratic socialist"? Everyone outside of the US just says they're a socialist.

The Social Democratic Party of Germany says “Hey, girl!”

He is a perpetual failed manchild with no history of employment. Mommy pays for his rent, food, and expenses and probably still does his laundry.

They called themselves social democrats.

[quote] Like all communists, they live large while the little people suffer.

They believe some people are more equal than others.

The best part of all of this is how scared you are that he’s connecting with people.

You can’t refute the policies, so you attack him.

His Gen Z fans hear free stuff and knock each other over on the way to the polls to vote for it. They never question where the free stuff comes from and how that works and I'll never understand why they think it's okay for a socialist to be wealthy but not themselves. They're lazy as hell too. They'd rather receive less in handouts than work hard for more.

And you wondered why they don’t like you…🫣

R465, the Social Democratic Party of Germany is the Social Democratic Party of Germany NOT the Democratic Socialist Party of Germany.

Social democracy is based on a capitalist economy, not a socialist economy. Social democracy is quite different from socialism. You really are very dim. And the funniest thing - you thought you scored a big point when you in fact completely fucked up.

Grocery stores in food deserts will save the city money.

This guy's face, with the same smile in every photo, is so punchable.

R472 I believe the poster was responding to, and criticizing, the part that said “Everyone outside of the US just says they're a socialist”— in which case you’re both correct.

It's so interesting the way that right-wingers attack anyone who wants to help the little guy for their lifestyle. Short of living in rags on the street, they will accuse literally anyone of being a richy-rich.

"Democratic Socialists of America" is a group of Marxist politicians trying to mislead a lot of democrats about their motives and goals, and they are succeeding. Chairman Maodami is blowing their cover, however, by saying the hidden parts out loud.

Margaret Thatcher said Socialism is wonderful, until the people who pay for it run out of money.

And look what happened to her. The ghostlike laughingstock of Europe. With a fried brain. Dreaming of Ronnie.

You're going to see a lot of empty shelves in his city-run grocery stores.

R479, she got dementia just like Joe Biden did three years ago. Only sociopathic losers laughed at her in her old age if anyone besides you did.

[quote] You're going to see a lot of empty shelves in his city-run grocery stores.

Funny, I’ve been seeing a lot of those since 2020. I guess capitalism’s empty shelves don’t count.

I will never support Josh Shapiro for anything ever again. Scumbag.

R482, were the empty shelves caused by the rampant looting?

No. They were empty because of raptors like the fat fuck Catsimidis.

R484, no. They were because of supply chain failures. Capitalism is supposed to get that right, but grocery stores have never recovered.

There are neighborhoods in New York without any grocery stores. Those neighborhoods have very poor health outcomes. Those poor health outcomes result in increased taxes to pay for emergency care at city run hospitals.

wtf are you all arguing about shelves for?

Stop with the faux deep dive, EL.

Here in the city, in the trenches, the shelves were empty because of assholes who control the Manhattan wholesale distribution system.

Where the hell do you live, R482, or are you just lying to fit the narrative?

R480 they already exist in the US and operate just fine

Let's see what happens. The city couldn't even make a damn horse betting racket work, let alone turn a profit, and OTB went under.

OTB is a state entity not a city entity. Where do you people get your shitty facts?!

Even NY state is incompetent!

For the dodo at R492:

Yes, the New York City Off-Track Betting Corporation was established in 1971 and was run by the city until it closed in 2010 due to financial issues. It was a government-operated entity aimed at providing legal betting on horse racing outside of racetracks.

It was created by the state. It was later taken over by the state —duh.

FU

[quote] The best part of all of this is how scared you are that he’s connecting with people.

Like Trump.

[quote] There are neighborhoods in New York without any grocery stores.

Because they loot.

Wrong, dodo at R495. I'll end this stupidity with this, since you seem to have problems with facts you don't like. By the way, dodo, John Lindsay as the mayor of NEW YORK CITY:

"To establish OTB, Mayor John Lindsay chose Howard Samuels, a former....

Stupid is as stupid does. It was created pursuant to a law passed by the the NYS legislature. It was taken over by NYS. NYS put it into bankruptcy, It was liquidated pursuant to NYS law. The end.

Sneak peak at Mamdani’s New York.

Except it happened in Adams’ New York, r500. You’re not very good at this.

That would be Adams’s NYC

[quote]Sneak peak at Mamdani’s New York.

That's no sneak peak. That's real life in Eric Adams' New York.

R501: Oh yes that's right. Mamdani would just dispatch social workers.

It's the republicans who have spent a generation removing all sensible gun control, but yes, gun violence is the fault of a Democrat who hasn't been elected yet.

R504 If you don't get paid for this, your life is honestly pathetic.

The GOP operatives Cuomo hired to shitpost on the internet sure seem to struggle with finding an effective attack strategy.

R507 I truly don't think any PR or psyops happen on DL whatsoever. This is a slow and irrelevant outdated message board with a small user base of mostly elderly people.

So just pathetic, idiotic homegrown trolls with no sense?

[quote] with a small user base of mostly elderly people.

Like you, R508?

R510 I think I'm probably one of the ten youngest users

Of course you do, R511.

509 if the shoe fits….

You don’t live in the city yet you instantly comment on it.

R511 Ok, who's younger than 33? I'd honestly be shocked if there was even a dozen!

R515 meant for R512

R515, do you know how many people make claims on DL--like, for instance, how young they are, how fit, how sexy...?

Mamdani's over the top wedding in Uganda is disgusting. He really doesn't give a fuck about gays and other marginalized groups. Uganda is widely known for having some of the harshest anti-LGBTQ+ laws in the world, including the 2023 Anti-Homosexuality Act, which imposes life imprisonment for same-sex acts and the death penalty for "aggravated homosexuality." The law has led to widespread violence, evictions, arrests, and the shutdown of LGBTQ+ support organizations, while also restricting access to healthcare and HIV prevention services. These actions have drawn global condemnation and sanctions from international governments and organizations for violating fundamental human rights. Good move Mamdani, do as I say not what I do is his way it seems. Let's see if he condemns Uganda for their ongoing violation of human rights. He has no business running NYC, obviously. Was that lamebrain AOC there twerking the night away?

Oh, come on! Who wouldn't want to celebrate their wedding in Uganda.

[quote]So just pathetic, idiotic homegrown trolls with no sense?

Combined with violently conflicting opinions on the best cast recording of "Follies".

A deadly combinationn.

R518 He's literally from there. So is he a fag hating al qaeda commander or is it that he's going to force everyone to get a sex change and turn pride into a criminal street orgy? I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around what the narrative is here.

[quote]So is he a fag hating al qaeda commander or is it that he's going to force everyone to get a sex change and turn pride into a criminal street orgy? I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around what the narrative is here.

What part of "queer trans radical fundamentalist muslim Marxist democrat socialist" is unclear to you?

You're forgot Communist, R522. Let's get all the fake labels in.

Maybe he should just stay there if it is so wonderful for him. Uganda a great place to brag about. The most intolerant and disgusting people seem to be from there. Does he idolize Idi Amin?

"Queer trans radical fundmentalist mooslim COMMUNIST ANTIFA Democrat socialist".

Bingo!

R499, as you point out what should have been a no brainer money maker completely FAILED thanks to government incompetence! Wait until they try to run grocery stores where there are none because of crime and looting.

[quote]These actions have drawn global condemnation and sanctions from international governments and organizations for violating fundamental human rights.

Like Trump's flying squads of masked kidnappers have. So I guess anyone who plans a wedding in the US hates fags?

After yesterday's mass shooting in New York, how's his idea of defunding police. Will his Social Workers have stopped the guy?

Well the NYPD didn’t stop him either

They were too busy playing Candy Crush and racking up overtime.

People disparage the police until they need them. Cowards. Comparing the US to Uganda in an effort to support Mamdani is strange thinking.

By the way, it’s the anti-zohran troll who’s FFing people into temp bans constantly. Thanks for giving me a dozen or so this year you cunt. You’re lucky Muriel is dead and no one is bothering to maintain this dead website.

Just a tweet from mommy's Uganda compound. I guess that's where he'll flee to when there's a shooting or major snowstorm in the city during his mayoralty.

Uganda is a hellhole, and this guy and his family live in some gated compound there. It’s shameful that he doesn’t condemn the human rights abuses, which could embarrass even the most “woke” people enough to stop defending him. Do they already have a residence lined up in the NYC suburbs to stay protected while the rest of us suffer in a crime-ridden dystopia? He needs to wash the stench of Uganda off himself before he can help anyone here in New York City. Try making a change for the better in Uganda first.

Never underestimate the ignorance of Americans about other countries’ immigration history.

Read and learn.

Calling voters ignorant is simply pathetic. It makes them turn away from the candidate you’re trying to promote. Democrats should have learned this lesson a long time ago, but apparently there are still some high-and-mighty people left in the party, mostly the far-left liberals or woke who think that insulting people with different viewpoints will help their candidate win on election day, when in reality it will most likely have the opposite effect. It’s sad to see this on any public platform.

I’m not promoting any candidate. I was sharing some historical context.

[quote]People disparage the police until they need them.

No one disparaged the police in Uvalde.

[quote]Calling voters ignorant is simply pathetic. It makes them turn away from the candidate you’re trying to promote.

Republicans insult moderate and moderate-left voters and lawmakers all the time. Do you think "RINO" is a term of endearment?

The very latest poll has Mamdani leading in the double digits over all the other mayoral candidates.

I'm not saying that poll is wrong but it is an outlier. Keep in mind also that the poll was conducted by people friendly to Mamdani.

It is the largest mayoral sample size to date, R540. And they're conducting the poll, they're not telling those polled how to respond.

Let’s be clear. He will be elected in November, absent a meteor striking Astoria/LIC. Andrew and Eric are toast, badly burnt and stale.

All the angst and money would be better spent on working to modulate the incoming power brokers.

R477 is hysterical. I love it.

The old guard is TERRIFIED.

And they should be.

So long New York.

So just like any other grocery store, R480? Your comment is going to look particularly dumb once the tariffs kick in.

r477 is an idiot, because we wouldn't have "Democratic Socialists" so far ahead of the rest in the current moment if we didn't have absolutely corrupt oligarchic leadership grabbing so much for themselves, and making such a fuc*ing mess for so many years.

A extreme action nearly always results in an equally extreme reaction. Science, boys and girls.

Careful what you wish for. If Mamdani is elected, he risks out-woking even the most progressive voices in the Democratic Party. This could trigger a major backlash and potentially pave the way for another Republican president, especially if crime trends worsen, criminals continue to face revolving-door justice, and police departments are further defunded. Should he adopt the same critical stance toward Israel as his father once did at Columbia, there could be serious political repercussions within the national Democratic Party, which is already grappling with historically low polling numbers. This is why so many Democrats are hesitant to endorse him—because, in politics, every action carries consequences.

I'm calling it now the Republicans will hold onto the House next year if Mamdani wins in November.

Yup, no panic here. No panic that a progressive might actually win somewhere, anywhere at all, and the world won't end. No panic that the usual corrupt and tired old fucks don't get to run everything everywhere, goddammit. No panic that maybe it's the centrists who have to get off their fucking asses and prove that they have something worth fighting for and not just a weary sad shake of the head at the latest Trump outrage. Nope, no panic at all, anywhere on this thread or throughout the Democratic party establishment.

Panic in Needle Park! NYC real estate leaders sweating bullets, desperate to stop ZM.

Note to file: it won’t work. He’s going to win. Save your $, and work now to modulate the incoming administration.

R546, when you are referring to the corrupt leadership oligarchs you must be referring to the Clintons, Obama, the Bidens (yes, they came as a pair unbeknownst to the US electorate), Sanders, Pelosi, Schumer and Warren.

R551, what do you consider Trump to be?

A hero for our times!

Amen R542/R550

[quote]Yup, no panic here. No panic that a progressive might actually win somewhere, anywhere at all, and the world won't end.

The cities across the country are with the progressive DAs. At any rate, the rest of us will sit back laughing at what a fucked up decision NYC made yet again and say, “I told you so.”

Since you don't live in NYC, R555, it shouldn't make any difference to you.

[quote]"Democratic Socialists of America" is a group of Marxist politicians trying to mislead a lot of democrats about their motives and goals, and they are succeeding

Jesus Christ, Mary, dial down the drama. You sound like Joe McCarthy on a bender in 1952. Do you know where you are? This isn't the Fox News comment section, hon. We're not cowering in fear at the appearance of the word "Marxist." You might want to read the fucking room before you post. You sound unhinged.

Democrats are so hungry for change.

Anyone who maintains a compound in Uganda and remains silent about the country’s widespread human rights violations has no business weighing in on U.S. politics. The moral bankruptcy of keeping a compound in such a place—where human dignity is routinely degraded—is impossible to ignore. How can I admire or respect someone who refuses to speak out against such injustice, yet feels entitled to criticize the United States? What values could a person like that have been raised with?

One more time to remind everyone that LGBTQ people in Uganda have virtually no rights, as same-sex sexual activity and even identifying as LGBTQ are criminalized under the 2023 Anti-Homosexuality Act, which includes penalties up to life imprisonment or death. There are no protections against discrimination, and LGBTQ individuals face widespread state-sanctioned violence, arrests, and social persecution.

Let Mamdani publicly call out Uganda’s political leaders and defend LGBTQ people or let him be known as a hypocrite.

[quote][R546], when you are referring to the corrupt leadership oligarchs you must be referring to the Clintons, Obama, the Bidens (yes, they came as a pair unbeknownst to the US electorate), Sanders, Pelosi, Schumer and Warren.

I mean all of them, r551. From all parties.

R559 your issue is with his wife’s parents. You know where to find them.

All visitors to that compound in Uganda are shameless and lack a moral compass. The level of human rights violations there is far too severe to be ignored. Only a true hypocrite would choose to spend time in that hellscape of a country—certainly not someone who should lead a diverse, multinational city like New York.

You won't find Pete Buttigieg visiting someone's compound in Uganda anytime soon. Hopefully he won't be endorsing this guy anytime soon.

The Cuomos and Schumers and Clintons and all of them have ran the show in Democratic politics since I was a teenager (a while ago, at this point) and what do we have to show for it?

Roe v Wade gone. Affirmative action gone. Gay marriage gotten and now threatened. Medicare and Medicaid slashed. The judiciary packed with 40 year old semi-literate Nazis. Massive income inequality. Unaffordable housing costs. Ridiculous medical costs.

What can the mainstream Democratic party of 2025 point to as an accomplishment? One that will inspire and rally people?

R563, you can't pin on those establishment Dems the rise of Dump and the MAGATs, and Bush before them, considering a wide swath of the country is die-hard right wing.

I think the establishment Dems loved NAFTA which has hollowed out flyover America and made a generation of voters there angry and vengeful and happy to destroy everything.

I think they loved Wall Street, or at least they didn't do a thing to the Wall Street criminals who smashed the American (and global) economy in 2008. Millions of people had their lives upended and saw Obama do basically nothing to the perpetrators.

They also let W skate on war crimes. When they got back in power, they chose to try and forget the past and bury it. I get why they did it, but it also basically showed Republican criminals that they could do anything and the Dems wouldn't do shit.

R565, I don't think most people in thids country even know what NAFTA is.

And I still think blaming every major Democrat for where we are now is patently unfair. Half the country is moderately to rectremely right wing, and has been for years. The fact that Obama got elected at all, much less twice, speaks both to him and the Democrats for proving themselves capable of shifting what is essentially a right-wing shift, particularly with SCOTUS, which handed Bush a first term and has aided and abetted the current criminal.

* rectremely=extremely

But I kinda like my typo, considering!

I am not voting for Mamdani, but if he wins—which seems likely—I hope he proves to be a good mayor. I want to see no spike in crime, taxes, or other societal issues reminiscent of a DeBlasio redux. I preferred Bloomberg much more than DeBlasio, and I’m not a fan of Adams, but my priority is for the city to feel safe and actually be safe. Statistics don’t convince me because I know how easily they can be manipulated.

R568, I respect that, and you're a New Yorker, so your opinion has more credibility than others here. No mayor brings down a city, much less a city like NYC. He's not Dump. Considering we're talking about NYC, businesses aren't going anywhere, nor will they feel so threatened to leave because there will be no cause to.

The more important thing is make the city affordable to those who live here, not more tax incentives to the uber-wealthy. None of Mamdani's rivals have demonstrated how they'll do that.

R563: All of that justifies Marxist Mamdani and AOC and socialism as the new face of the Democratic Party?

All of that justifies rejecting your relentless whoring for Trump and for the rich r570. Now stop your moronic whining and accept that nobody is afraid of your nonsense.

I love how they think we're terrified of "Marxists" like they're in a Jordan Peterson subreddit. These trolls are too stupid to take seriously. They have no idea where they are.