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New rules on Carnival Cruises stir controversey

People are alleging the new rules are Anti-Black or targeted toward the line's black patrons.

These include:

Zero Tolerance for Marjiuana

1 am curfew for all passengers under 18 not accompanied by an adult

Restrictions on personal speakers

Strict adherence to the 15 drink daily limit

There are also accusations that Carnival has unofficially banned rap and hip-hop music in its clubs and bars and has additionally prevented DJs from playing songs from that genre on the pool deck.

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by Anonymousreply 190July 11, 2025 2:14 AM

Boo hoo hoo. The rules sound reasonable. Except for the rap and hip-hop ban. That is profiling.

by Anonymousreply 1July 10, 2025 12:58 AM

No butt sex on the lido deck.

by Anonymousreply 2July 10, 2025 12:58 AM

Hmmm I wonder why ? Just like Amtrak,and airlines that are cheap,or malls ,or state fairs or concerts, a large gathering of certain individuals always seems to create conflict. Google Orange park mall here in Jax Fl . a couple of days ago and we had 100s of feral teens running amok. Not for the 1st time. Jumping on cars,fighting,running into heavy traffic,stealing etc.

by Anonymousreply 3July 10, 2025 1:01 AM

Sounds perfectly fine to me.

by Anonymousreply 4July 10, 2025 1:06 AM

[quote] Strict adherence to the 15 drink daily limit

What??!!!

by Anonymousreply 5July 10, 2025 1:06 AM

What R5 said. Fifteen drinks of anything is crazy yet alone stuff with alcohol.

by Anonymousreply 6July 10, 2025 1:08 AM

What about crab legs? Will passengers still be able to get their crab legs?

by Anonymousreply 7July 10, 2025 1:09 AM

I thought the same thing R5 & R6, but drink packages are usually per person on a cruise, so it is very possible to get a drink, give it to someone (maybe underage), and then go back and get another.

by Anonymousreply 8July 10, 2025 1:10 AM

Carnival is one of the cheapest priced, so the clientele they attract necessitate these type of rules.

You won’t find a “15 drink limit” on Celebrity, because their customer base isn’t ghetto people.

by Anonymousreply 9July 10, 2025 1:11 AM

What about scrimps? How many scrimps we has a day on the ship?

by Anonymousreply 10July 10, 2025 1:12 AM

Fried chicken still ok though?

by Anonymousreply 11July 10, 2025 1:13 AM

All HETEROSEXUAL FATTIES are required to walk on the treadmill in the fitness room for a minimum of 30 minutes per day.

by Anonymousreply 12July 10, 2025 1:13 AM

If you've ever seen YouTube videos of out of control fights on cruise ships, you'd understand why Carnival has implemented these rules.

by Anonymousreply 13July 10, 2025 1:13 AM

It’s NOT A Fucking Carnival Cruise™️

by Anonymousreply 14July 10, 2025 1:17 AM

Ain’t we?

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by Anonymousreply 15July 10, 2025 1:18 AM

When I type in carni into the YouTube search box the first autofill is “carnival cruise fights” and there must be hundreds of videos. Apparently CCL is know as “section 8 of the seas” Not that it affects me. In the least. I’m more likely to blow Kim jong-un on worldwide live TV than I am to do on a carnival cruise.

by Anonymousreply 16July 10, 2025 1:24 AM

The good part starts at 3:12

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by Anonymousreply 17July 10, 2025 1:27 AM

And another perspective

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by Anonymousreply 19July 10, 2025 1:35 AM

TikTok videos have put a real hurt on Carnival and forced them to deal with these issues. It’ll be interesting to see if their crowd tries other cruise lines and how they’ll deal with them.

by Anonymousreply 20July 10, 2025 1:43 AM

[quote]Strict adherence to the 15 drink daily limit

Dear Lord in Heaven!

by Anonymousreply 21July 10, 2025 1:55 AM

Their policies aren’t racist, they’re just targeted at the people who cause all of the problems.

by Anonymousreply 22July 10, 2025 2:00 AM

The drunkest rowdiest group I ever saw in on a ship ( car ferry) were a group of young Orthodox Jewish men. Apparently on their way to a wedding. No fighting though .

by Anonymousreply 23July 10, 2025 2:02 AM

I hear there are going to be new rules for the gay cruises targeting the trashy gays.

by Anonymousreply 24July 10, 2025 2:05 AM

The confused white couple investigating the scene at 10:10 in R17’s video. 😂

by Anonymousreply 25July 10, 2025 2:07 AM

15 drinks? Holy shit that's a lot.

by Anonymousreply 26July 10, 2025 2:09 AM

r16 r17 r18 r19 r23 I wonder why you're so invested in this topic?

by Anonymousreply 27July 10, 2025 2:10 AM

i’ve drank more than 15 drinks on a holiday gay pride sunday. also remember, on carnival drinks are measured pours, so much less alcohol than we gays are used to.

by Anonymousreply 28July 10, 2025 2:10 AM

R16- There's a video on youtube of some American ghetto blacks in Italy writing graffiti on some historical bridge and two young Italians are chiding them for writing on the bridge and the blacks accused them of being racist.

by Anonymousreply 29July 10, 2025 2:12 AM

[quote] Strict adherence to the 15 drink daily limit

This legit sounds like a Moe Szyslack line.

by Anonymousreply 30July 10, 2025 2:12 AM

r29 ok?

by Anonymousreply 31July 10, 2025 2:13 AM

R23 is full of shit.

by Anonymousreply 32July 10, 2025 2:14 AM

R28 The one time I drank that much I was hung over for four days.

by Anonymousreply 33July 10, 2025 2:14 AM

They didn’t say delta 8! You can get breath strips and put them in a regular breath strip container.

by Anonymousreply 34July 10, 2025 2:14 AM

[quote] People are alleging the new rules are Anti-Black or targeted toward the line's black patrons.

Pick a capital.

by Anonymousreply 35July 10, 2025 2:14 AM

The ghetto, hunny. The GHETTO!!!

by Anonymousreply 36July 10, 2025 2:15 AM

World Star!

by Anonymousreply 37July 10, 2025 2:15 AM

This will only drive up clientele.

by Anonymousreply 38July 10, 2025 2:15 AM

Is there downlow BBC on these ghetto cruises? On men under 200lbs?

by Anonymousreply 39July 10, 2025 2:15 AM

R39 You make it sound like visiting flyoverstan.

by Anonymousreply 40July 10, 2025 2:20 AM

Some people had no home training.

Sad.

by Anonymousreply 41July 10, 2025 3:16 AM

Mandatory dance off!

by Anonymousreply 42July 10, 2025 3:20 AM

How are they going to track how much you drink in a day?

by Anonymousreply 43July 10, 2025 3:26 AM

I think these Sharkeishas have learned to have one person buy a drink package, and then scam unlimited drinks for their entire entourage. Hence the new “15 drink daily limit”.

by Anonymousreply 44July 10, 2025 3:27 AM

15 is around one drink an hour (not counting sleep time). That's a silly limit for a vacation.

by Anonymousreply 45July 10, 2025 3:36 AM

Well, Well , Well..... I hate to say I told you so....but ...

by Anonymousreply 46July 10, 2025 3:42 AM

I’ll bet Carnival’s onboard shops have a high rate of theft.

by Anonymousreply 47July 10, 2025 3:46 AM

I was on one years ago and it was a MAGa shithole.

by Anonymousreply 48July 10, 2025 4:02 AM

R48 Carnival is a weird mix of hot-dog eating, NASCAR-loving MAGA Bubbas and ratchet, section 8, 3 baby daddy LaToyas.

by Anonymousreply 49July 10, 2025 4:09 AM

It's the Motel 6 of cruise lines - I've never been on one and never will.

But yeah - the hiphop and rap is still divisive and many people do not want to hear it. I don't care if it offends some people - it makes a lot of people's ears bleed.

You've got earbuds - you don't need to have that crap blasted everywhere.

10% of it is great - but 90% is just ghetto crap and everyone knows it. Now - equally, I'd like a ban on Country.

by Anonymousreply 50July 10, 2025 4:12 AM

What about legally prescribed cannabis?

by Anonymousreply 51July 10, 2025 4:14 AM

Wait, so people do the bullshit personal speakers and speakerphone media and phone calls on Cruise Ships? I guess they do, huh.

Ok, I'm not going to this either. These fucktards ruin it for everyone with their stupidity.

by Anonymousreply 52July 10, 2025 4:15 AM

R49- Anotherwords RIFF RAFF

by Anonymousreply 53July 10, 2025 4:17 AM

R28 = Liza.

by Anonymousreply 54July 10, 2025 4:17 AM

My mom paid for my sister and her family to go on a cruise with her. My sister and her husband would get up late, eat at the buffet and drink until they passed out. Then they would get up for another dinner buffet and get blotto drunk again. I am sure they were drinking more than 15 drinks each.

by Anonymousreply 55July 10, 2025 4:27 AM

The first time I went on a cruise was one of those Atlantis gay cruises.

I was chatting with one of the staff people. I joked that they must get hazard pay for this cruise. He said the staff actually enjoyed it because the people were more fun and the rules were significantly relaxed.

He also mentioned that the first Atlantis cruise that he ever worked they had stocked the bars with the regular amount of alcohol that they would for a normal cruise. They had to restock at the first port because they had already burned through about 80% of what they were carrying. He said the staff was stunned at how much liquor gay men go through.

by Anonymousreply 56July 10, 2025 4:31 AM

None of these rules are outrageous nor do any appear obviously targeting any demographic.

If these basic and sensible restrictions offend you - and everyone must be offended these days - you shouldn’t be rudely encroaching on civilized people’s hard-earned vacations.

by Anonymousreply 57July 10, 2025 4:46 AM

[quote] She pointed out that viral cruise fights never happen in the clubs, where the music plays. Rather, they happen in hallways and pool decks; places fueled by excessive drinking, not DJ playlists. “It is 100% the alcohol […] not the music,” she added, calling the association between rap music and violence “discriminatory.”

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by Anonymousreply 58July 10, 2025 5:01 AM

R55 that is the point of cruising

by Anonymousreply 59July 10, 2025 5:03 AM

[quote] He said the staff was stunned at how much liquor gay men go through.

Well, wouldn’t you drink if you were gay?

by Anonymousreply 60July 10, 2025 5:53 AM

Luxury problems

by Anonymousreply 61July 10, 2025 6:08 AM

Here to save the day. Unlimited Henny shots, 24 hour on board dispensary and check cashing for your convenience. The Mt. Olive Covenant of the Holy Redeemer chapel with 30 person baptism pool, and a freak off deck in back.

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by Anonymousreply 62July 10, 2025 6:35 AM

R60 = Anita Bryant.

by Anonymousreply 63July 10, 2025 6:46 AM

This is definitely…a disrespectin’.’

by Anonymousreply 64July 10, 2025 7:39 AM

[quote]He said the staff actually enjoyed it because the people were more fun and the rules were significantly relaxed.

Of course the bartenders are going to love it. Talk to the housekeeping staff and the rest of the interior and I assure you, it is a different story.

Nice try though. Gay men of all stripes are every bit as uncivilized in large numbers as a black teenagers. Probably even more so.

by Anonymousreply 65July 10, 2025 7:54 AM

A family friend went on a Carnival cruise once. She said a drunk guy pulled down his speedo and started shaking his dick around for the whole pool area to see.

by Anonymousreply 66July 10, 2025 7:55 AM

R66 = Louis CK.

by Anonymousreply 67July 10, 2025 8:03 AM

A Carnival Cruise sounds like the tenth circle of hell.

by Anonymousreply 68July 10, 2025 8:58 AM

15 drinks a day? JFC. It always amazes me how much some people can drink.

by Anonymousreply 69July 10, 2025 10:01 AM

Will they outlaw Kathy Lee? Let’s go!

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by Anonymousreply 70July 10, 2025 10:28 AM

Is Carnaval a bargain cruise line?

I can't imagine people like the folks in the video at R17 are making much more than $22 an hour.

by Anonymousreply 71July 10, 2025 10:33 AM

Honest Carnival Cruise ad

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by Anonymousreply 72July 10, 2025 10:55 AM

Carnival is very cheap, r71. A three week Seattle-Sydney cruise is $1500 per person for an inside cabin.

by Anonymousreply 73July 10, 2025 11:01 AM

R65 I was told a variation of the same thing, unsolicited, by one of the dining room serving staff on an Atlantis cruise, that the gay cruise was the one they all looked forward to—the most fun, no dealing with a lot of kids underfoot, and the one where they were treated the most respectfully by the guests. I could see where that would be true and felt proud to be gay.

by Anonymousreply 74July 10, 2025 11:58 AM

They've made the film SOUL PLANE, so can SOUL SHIP be in the works?

by Anonymousreply 75July 10, 2025 12:08 PM

My MAGA in-laws recently did a cheap Carnival tour and boy did we get an earful upon their return. Security guarding certain halls and lots of guests in one party under room lockup. The family, who live in a rural area, were so triggered. Mind you, these are th same people who refer to POC as Canadians so they can talk about them within earshot at a Denny's in the big city...

by Anonymousreply 76July 10, 2025 12:14 PM

[quote] How are they going to track how much you drink in a day?

They swipe your card each time you order.

by Anonymousreply 77July 10, 2025 12:54 PM

It's funny when these policies come out, whether at a nightclub or on a cruise ship, blacks always feel targeted.

It's basically admission of guilt.

by Anonymousreply 78July 10, 2025 1:02 PM

R65 raises a point, much as we might not like to go there. Years ago, at a gay bar, I overheard a bartender and patron comparing their bar tabs on recent cruises; I'm no stranger to the bottle, but the amounts knocked me for a loop. Thing is, they were more bragging about it than pissed off "Damn! I spent all that money!"

R73: for that price, I'd expect a bowl of generic Cheerios as breakfast, and a bologna-and-American cheese sandwich as dinner.

R66: I wouldn't expect yahoo trash to wear speedos.

by Anonymousreply 79July 10, 2025 1:02 PM

R73 I've heard of retirees opting to live on cruise ships. At that price, it sounds like a viable option for those on a limited income. Maybe BrendaD Ickson can consider it once she's evicted from her condo.

by Anonymousreply 80July 10, 2025 1:17 PM

The new written rules are entirely reasonable.

I had no idea they allowed personal speakers before this. Sounds like a nightmare on a "relaxing" cruise.

15 drinks a day is plenty. If you think otherwise, you might be an alcoholic.

As for the "unofficial rules" and what plays in the bars/used by DJs, that's always a tough one when you have people of various backgrounds. If that's an actual "unofficial rule" now and not just social media nonsense as it often is, it's probably because they ran the numbers from surveys and other things and found that far more customers were bothered by the music than said it was a must have.

by Anonymousreply 81July 10, 2025 1:18 PM

Nobody’s talking about the egregious marijuana ban?

by Anonymousreply 82July 10, 2025 1:21 PM

r65, pure nonsense. Gay men are extremely good tippers. And there is not a chance in hell they are as bad as large groups of teenagers, black or otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 83July 10, 2025 1:26 PM

Imagine learning that a cruise line is going to start restricting personal speakers and believing that it is a targeted slight against your race. Sort of a self own, that.

by Anonymousreply 84July 10, 2025 1:26 PM

What is their policy re barefoot dancing?

by Anonymousreply 85July 10, 2025 1:49 PM

One drink at your average gay bar is probably equivalent to three watered-down drinks on Carnival, so 15 drinks isn't all that much.

by Anonymousreply 86July 10, 2025 2:03 PM

I wasn't sure what "personal speakers" meant. The things you learn from Datalounge! I had no idea that people would bring speakers on a cruise ship (or anywhere else, for that matter) so they can have their music blasting, thereby annoying the fuck out of everybody else within earshot, instead of doing the polite and courteous thing by wearing ear buds instead.

Yes, I'm white. But I probably didn't have to mention that.

by Anonymousreply 87July 10, 2025 2:04 PM

Why dont they ban country music? I never want to hear that shit.

by Anonymousreply 88July 10, 2025 2:04 PM

R66 has convinced me to go on a Carnival Cruise

by Anonymousreply 89July 10, 2025 2:07 PM

Black TikTokkers complain about cruisers wearing bonnets, pajamas and slippers all over the ship. Dang, if I can’t wear my PJ’s in the dining hall I ain’t going.

by Anonymousreply 90July 10, 2025 2:39 PM

Only fifteen drinks a day? That's ridiculous!

by Anonymousreply 91July 10, 2025 3:02 PM

15 sounds about right for breakfast.

by Anonymousreply 92July 10, 2025 3:36 PM

Remember the first rule of urban survival. If there's more than three turn around and flee!

by Anonymousreply 93July 10, 2025 4:03 PM

It's funny how these rules give them the worst PR as it makes Carnival look so trashy that they have these behaviors in the first place.

They will always be for the budget traveler - and that's fine. But if I'm going to spend money on a vacation, I'm going to save up a little bit more to be on a premium line to avoid these issues.

Not everyone has the ability to do that, I understand.

But I feel like most travel companies (including airlines) need to provide a list of unacceptable behaviors and rules of conduct. Shit has gotten out of control and people clearly need guidelines - people from lower economic backgrounds would never have afforded planes and cruises 30+ years ago.

I like rules - they are there for a reason.

by Anonymousreply 94July 10, 2025 4:08 PM

R94- I would suggest Holland America. The people on those ships are much nicer more respectable upper middle class crowd- No MAGA nor Ghetto RIFF RAFF.

by Anonymousreply 95July 10, 2025 4:11 PM

OP linked to a right-wing site

by Anonymousreply 96July 10, 2025 4:19 PM

I've heard good things about Regent Seven Seas. They have more of an "upscale" crowd who understand proper manners and correct behavior that is expected of civilized people. Read into that what you will.

by Anonymousreply 97July 10, 2025 4:22 PM

[quote] There are also accusations that Carnival has unofficially banned rap and hip-hop music in its clubs and bars and has additionally prevented DJs from playing songs from that genre on the pool deck.

So, 24/7 Neil Diamond?

by Anonymousreply 98July 10, 2025 4:22 PM

It's controversy, no second e.

by Anonymousreply 99July 10, 2025 4:24 PM

R95 - Holland is classic but it's old people primarily unfortunately. I prefer Celebrity - modern, funky, urban, upscale, primarily adults 30-60.

R97 - true - but Regency is a luxury line, not just premium. The downside is that they are smaller ships with limited lounges and entertainment - and the PRICE. Literally costs 3-5x the amount of a premium line and 10x a budget line.

Many luxury lines can be $1000 a day for 2 people. Of course it's not going to have the riff-raff, but I can't justify a $1000/day budget for any vacation.

by Anonymousreply 100July 10, 2025 4:26 PM

What’s marijuana have to do with it?

by Anonymousreply 101July 10, 2025 4:29 PM

You can have it… A cruise is not a vacation.

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by Anonymousreply 102July 10, 2025 4:31 PM

You sound poor r100

by Anonymousreply 103July 10, 2025 4:31 PM

Lots of people find the smell offensive R101. It stinks to high heaven just as cigarette smoke does. Also, like cigarettes, a fire hazard.

by Anonymousreply 104July 10, 2025 4:39 PM

R103 - so witty! Such a comeback! No - anyone spending $7000 for a week cruise has more money than sense.

Actually I just checked Crystal Cruises to see prices - it's $5500 per person for 7 nights - so $11,000 before taxes, gratuities, etc.

There is no way to justify $1700 a day for food (albeit great food) and a floating hotel room. It's a matter of sense and value for money. If you've got money to burn - by all means.

But getting value for your money is smart - blowing it is stupid no matter how rich you are.

by Anonymousreply 105July 10, 2025 4:41 PM

It looks like Carnival Cruises needs to significantly raise their rates

by Anonymousreply 106July 10, 2025 4:43 PM

[quote]But getting value for your money is smart - blowing it is stupid no matter how rich you are.

Then by all means have fun on Carnival "where Section Eight meets the Seven Seas" Cruises so you can get "value for your money."

by Anonymousreply 107July 10, 2025 5:03 PM

R103 Is that illegal around here?

by Anonymousreply 108July 10, 2025 5:05 PM

One theory I read was that Carnival is trying to attract "better" clientele because they're worried about a downturn in the economy. Wealthier people will still travel, but the lower middle class and working class won't be able to take cruises in a recession.

by Anonymousreply 109July 10, 2025 5:06 PM

Years ago I was shocked - shocked, I tell you - to read upscale Celebrity’s passenger guide prohibiting passengers from biting, spitting, and hair-pulling. We go on Celebrity a lot, and will be the Silhouette this summer and happily have never seen that kind of behavior. Clearly Celebrity has, or else their lawyers wouldn’t have felt it necessary to include the verbiage. They also wouldn’t let the Trinidadian reggae band by the pool play the Pokémon Song. The singer told me they’d been forbidden to sing it because of the lyrics: “Tha shit’s OK in Barbados, mon, but we can’t play it here.”

All smoking, cigarettes, cigars, and marijuana, is verboten on most ships. Some we’ve been on (QM2 last year) have a single, outdoors, cigarettes only area where you can smoke but I know of none that allow it in your cabin, on your balcony or in the public areas.

by Anonymousreply 110July 10, 2025 5:09 PM

R107 - I've never taken Carnival, that's why I suggested Celebrity upthread.

Look - there's cutting witty remarks and there's just being a cunt. Your comments fully display how low-brow, unintelligent and trashy you are.

Go try to fool other people with your false "I'm rich, you're poor" insecurities. You're not fooling anyone here.

by Anonymousreply 111July 10, 2025 5:10 PM

I can't believe you can't smoke on your fucking balcony.

by Anonymousreply 112July 10, 2025 5:19 PM

My parents took Seabourne and among the small number of guests were Don Rickles and Bob Newhart and their wives, and DL fav Juliette Prowse. It's expensive and exclusive. Save up, bitches.

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by Anonymousreply 113July 10, 2025 5:21 PM

R97 Regent markets to an upper-middle class Calif., Ill. NY and Florida crowd. They host Friday Sabbath services on board.

by Anonymousreply 114July 10, 2025 5:29 PM

I cruised on Crystal with Barbara Walters. More than once with Howard Fineman and his wife Amy (they were sweethearts). Another time, the couple in the next stateroom were MTM’s in-laws; she gifted them a Northern Lights/Norwegian fjord cruise because her mother-in-law was going blind. Lovely and sad to spend time with them.

by Anonymousreply 115July 10, 2025 5:32 PM

I lent Alice Faye my binoculars on a whale-watching tour off Maui when we went on the old QE2. Bill Cosby (then as yet unconvicted) was the entertainer that night. On that cruise, Tony Warren (he created Coronation Street) was speaking onboard and sat next to us in the Queen’s Grill from California to Honolulu.

Dr Ruth was at our table on a Celebrity cruise. Walter Cunningham, one of the Apollo 7 astronauts, sat with us on another X cruise. I didn’t think it’d go too well because he was a pretty crusty right-winger sitting with two gay guys, but my husband’s a Texan, too, and retired Navy and they got along great.

by Anonymousreply 116July 10, 2025 5:52 PM

[quote]Nobody’s talking about the egregious marijuana ban?

Marijuana is still illegal in most states and perhaps in the port where the cruise starts or ends. Not to mention the countries it visits. And any kind of smoking is VERY restricted on cruises due to the very high risk of catastrophic fires.

You could probably get away with marijuana edibles.

by Anonymousreply 117July 10, 2025 6:31 PM

R105, you can’t base other people’s spending power on your wallet. The fact that you probably have a smart phone as well as a computer and a subscription to at least one streaming service and internet WiFi from home means you have more money to burn than 80% of the globe. Money is the most relative thing there is. $11000 is nothing to a great number of people in the United States - at least enough to keep those cruises afloat with hundreds of thousands more to spare. Someone making 300k a year is probably taking home 18k a month. Now how many people in the US make more than 300K? Even at 1% that’s still 3.5 million people.

by Anonymousreply 118July 10, 2025 6:43 PM

Wait, there’s a gay Carnival cruise?

by Anonymousreply 119July 10, 2025 6:44 PM

[quote] The fact that you probably have a smart phone as well as a computer and a subscription to at least one streaming service and internet WiFi from home means you have more money to burn than 80% of the globe.

You’re an idiot.

by Anonymousreply 120July 10, 2025 6:45 PM

R120, It’s a fact silly.

by Anonymousreply 121July 10, 2025 6:46 PM

R121, the fact that you can find food to eat makes you wealthier than half of the world. You’re not making the point you think you are. The majority of Americans have phones and access to wifi. It’s essential. We don’t do global. At the very least you could have narrowed it down to Westerners.

by Anonymousreply 122July 10, 2025 7:18 PM

I can't afford to go on a booze cruise of Boston Harbor.

by Anonymousreply 123July 10, 2025 7:23 PM

R73 $1,500 seems like a stretch for most of these people.

by Anonymousreply 124July 10, 2025 7:35 PM

I legit want to go on a Carnival cruise now after reading this thread…with the right companions (I wouldn’t take my mom lol). It sounds hysterical and like you would leave with great stories.

by Anonymousreply 125July 10, 2025 7:43 PM

Of all the rules, the one that ASTOUNDED me was letting unaccompanied children run around until 1 am. And that's "cracking down" on the problem!

by Anonymousreply 126July 10, 2025 7:44 PM

Well, now I'm wondering - on the nicer upgrade cruises, are there mouth breathers using speaker phone there too ?

by Anonymousreply 127July 10, 2025 7:45 PM

I went on a Carnival Cruise but there was no carnival!

by Anonymousreply 128July 10, 2025 7:46 PM

And Tom wasn't there, either.

by Anonymousreply 129July 10, 2025 7:49 PM

19 people a year fall overboard. I wonder how many of them are on Carnival ships?

by Anonymousreply 130July 10, 2025 7:52 PM

15 drinks a day is a lot, and it's a reasonable limit, but it's not that hard to reach into the double digits on vacation if you start with a couple of mimosas or a bloody mary, have 2-3 drinks with meals, and spend the night partying into the wee hours. It's definitely a lot but spread out over 24 hours it's not impossible.

by Anonymousreply 131July 10, 2025 8:10 PM

r131 = alcoholic

by Anonymousreply 132July 10, 2025 8:11 PM

Isn’t Atlantis the big gay fuck cruise?

by Anonymousreply 133July 10, 2025 8:14 PM

R132 = zero reading comprehension, probably illiterate.

by Anonymousreply 134July 10, 2025 8:14 PM

r134 = drunk AF

by Anonymousreply 135July 10, 2025 8:17 PM

I could do 15 drinks in a day but I would be incapable of doing that every day, let alone two days in a row.

by Anonymousreply 136July 10, 2025 8:17 PM

15 drinks a day is ridiculous, no matter how spread out they are.

by Anonymousreply 137July 10, 2025 8:18 PM

You start with a couple of mimosas or a bloody mary...every day?

Then 2-3 drinks with lunch, and 2-3 with dinner--then another 7 to 9 drinks when partying that night...and you would be doing this every day? Oh, that's an alcoholic.

by Anonymousreply 138July 10, 2025 8:20 PM

It would take several days for me to consume 15 drinks without feeling like shit.

by Anonymousreply 139July 10, 2025 8:23 PM

After drink #3 I would be snoozing into the buffet

by Anonymousreply 140July 10, 2025 8:27 PM

Yes, I also live full time on a cruise ship and every single day is a vacation day. I also made it clear that this is something I personally do in my post at R131. I mean the phrase "this is what I do every day without fail" is clearly there in my post.

The dumbest and most reactionary fucking people post here, I swear to god.

by Anonymousreply 141July 10, 2025 8:29 PM

Who hurt you?

by Anonymousreply 142July 10, 2025 8:31 PM

I'd feel like shit after a day of 15 drinks. I'd probably puke too.before the day was over. I might have 2 much later the next day to ease out of the hangover. Then it would be at least a few days of abstinence.

by Anonymousreply 143July 10, 2025 8:31 PM

Preppy dress code and only play Eurodance.

by Anonymousreply 144July 10, 2025 8:32 PM

[R73]$1,500 seems like a stretch for most of these people.

These trashy Bahamas cruises are more like $300.

by Anonymousreply 145July 10, 2025 8:35 PM

I hope Carnival pays their workers decently. You know they’re making zero tips on these Section 8 voyages.

by Anonymousreply 146July 10, 2025 8:37 PM

R145 That makes more sense.

by Anonymousreply 147July 10, 2025 8:37 PM

Well, it is called "Carnival Cruises" after all.....

by Anonymousreply 148July 10, 2025 8:39 PM

Anyone been on a Virgin cruise? They’re adults-only, so no brats running around. But I’m wondering what the clientele (age, socioeconomic status) is like?

by Anonymousreply 149July 10, 2025 8:39 PM

My mom went on a Caribbean cruise once, it didn't sound anything like this, the wild partying or anything. But that was probably 15 years ago. Someone had a heart attack on the ship and they had to skip some ports and come back to Florida a day or so early.

by Anonymousreply 150July 10, 2025 8:43 PM

I haven't R149, but know someone who has. She's a str8 gal in her 20s, loved the drag queen bingo. They are proud of attracting all ages. Food is said to be great.

by Anonymousreply 151July 10, 2025 8:50 PM

I did a 3-day Bahamas cruise on Royal Caribbean back in 2002. It was a free trip as part of a reward for work.

It was okay, but I wouldn't do it again. The dinners were nice, but I remember the breakfast buffet being really overcrowded and fully of trashy people stuffing their fat faces until they practically exploded.

I took a friend with me, and when we checked into our cabin, there were two single beds in the room, and the steward said he would push the two beds together for us. We told him not to do it and that we were just friends, but every day when we'd come back to the room, they had pushed the beds together and we would have to move them apart. Geez.

by Anonymousreply 152July 10, 2025 8:51 PM

[quote]Who hurt you?

Who dropped you on your head and caused your intellectual disability?

by Anonymousreply 153July 10, 2025 9:09 PM

*hic*

by Anonymousreply 154July 10, 2025 9:11 PM

The point I was making r121 is that R105 has no place to tell other people what is and isn't stupid when it comes how they spending their money. He is complaining about other people spending $11000 on vacation when someone else much less fortunate, like 80% of the rest of the world, would think he spends his money in stupid ways. His $100 cellphone bill might swell be $11000 to them.

by Anonymousreply 155July 10, 2025 9:17 PM

My mother does Carnival with a group of other elderly "divas" (the name of the group) every year. She says it's fun but they also have customized excursions and their own private activities and servers. She did say there's a lot of fat people in swimwear they should not be wearing. She took a Royal Caribbean trip a few months ago and actually said she preferred Carnival as the food and entertainment were better.

by Anonymousreply 156July 10, 2025 9:18 PM

Children and women first.....but mostly children.

by Anonymousreply 157July 10, 2025 9:32 PM

R150 the good ships all have morgues.

by Anonymousreply 158July 10, 2025 9:47 PM

R158 The person wasn't dead.

by Anonymousreply 159July 10, 2025 9:50 PM

R150 I don't remember, I wasn't there and it wasn't recent. My mom would know but she's dead now. Must have had to take him to the first available port, which was on their way home. Anyhow, they had to get back a bit earlier.

by Anonymousreply 160July 10, 2025 9:57 PM

For R158^^^

by Anonymousreply 161July 10, 2025 9:57 PM

Or they skipped a port and went straight back to Miami.

by Anonymousreply 162July 10, 2025 9:58 PM

[quote]Or they skipped a port and went straight back to Miami.

Probably this. You wouldn’t want to be having a heart and get dropped off in Haiti.

by Anonymousreply 163July 10, 2025 10:01 PM

R149- I’m going on a Virgin Voyage gay cruise . It leaves from Barcelona. They brag about there being no Cafeteria/ Buffet on the ship- I’m concerned about that. I like being able to take food from the buffet back to my room and it’s quick which is especially good when you’re in a rush to go on an excursion.

by Anonymousreply 164July 10, 2025 10:03 PM

R163 Yeah I seem to recall that is what happened.

by Anonymousreply 165July 10, 2025 10:07 PM

What are the nice cruise lines, where I can discuss Mahler and Thomas Mann over dry martinis?

by Anonymousreply 166July 10, 2025 10:11 PM

[quote] the good ships all have morgues.

and lollipops

by Anonymousreply 167July 10, 2025 10:14 PM

R163 It was a Royal Caribbean cruise. I remember it went to Coco Cay, which is their island.

by Anonymousreply 168July 10, 2025 10:16 PM

r166 - they are Regent Seven Seas Cruises, Seabourn, Silversea, Crystal, and Ritz-Carlton Yacht Collection

by Anonymousreply 169July 10, 2025 10:19 PM

The 15 drinks per day are WEAK WATERED DOWN drinks, objectively speaking - as has been said aleady on this thread, yet there seem to be a few dumb dumbs who still want to opine on whether that is too much or too little.

by Anonymousreply 170July 10, 2025 10:22 PM

They're allowed to serve watered-down liquor?

by Anonymousreply 171July 10, 2025 10:26 PM

So it's more like seven or eight? That's still enough to raise the eyebrows of 12 steppers

by Anonymousreply 172July 10, 2025 10:28 PM

Carnival, the dollar store of cruises

by Anonymousreply 173July 10, 2025 10:38 PM

R170 Neely O'Hara, dear, 15 drinks, watered down or not, is a lot of drinks.

by Anonymousreply 174July 10, 2025 10:39 PM

I couldn't deal with the amount of people at R102. I recently watched the Poop Cruise video on Netflix and was amazed at how crowded the ship was. That doesn't seem like a relaxing vacation to be elbow to elbow with your fellow travelers.

by Anonymousreply 175July 10, 2025 10:41 PM

With who, R166, ancient widowed Japanese war brides who hooked a GI during the Occupation who then came home to run the family business, dying and leaving her millions? Crystal Cruises.

Titanic cosplayers of every race, creed (the Captain is Muslim), color, and nationality crowd the QM2. The top deck’s not worth it any more, but with the cheap cabins and the right attitude you can have a lot of fun. Very well-behaved. Lots of Brits, obviously. Cunard Line.

Holland America: God’s Waiting Room Goes To Sea. It can be very nice depending, but it’s expensive for what you get. Lots of prunes served at breakfast. If you can afford a nice cabin/suite they do or include a lot, but it’s pricey. If you drink with the officers you learn what really goes on onboard.

Celebrity always seemed the most gay friendly mass market line. Not sure if it still is. It started as the Hyatts and the Greeks and every ship has been better than the one before it. The food, service, cleanliness are all great. Entertainment varies, they try to dazzle. It’s middle-aged, middle class, more than some swinging and sauna adventures with married men on the dl.

Norwegian. Awful. Just awful. A Greyhound bus that floats. Never again. People came onboard with their clothes in paper bags - no luggage. No manners, either. One hustle after another.

We haven’t been on Virgin.

I cannot imagine 15 drinks a day. OTOH, I had an aunt and uncle who played 36 holes of golf and drank two pourer bottles a day all winter in Florida. Screwdrivers at 7:30 in the morning, even with fresh OJ, were the eye-openers when I visited.

by Anonymousreply 176July 10, 2025 10:42 PM

Canada's DOLLARAMA is so successful.it should start a cruise line, serving the canned food on its shelves. Who wants ravioli? Pea soup? Paris Paté? Swiss Rolls for dessert.

by Anonymousreply 177July 10, 2025 10:43 PM

[quote] Holland America: God’s Waiting Room Goes To Sea. It can be very nice depending, but it’s expensive for what you get.

I’m on a HAL cruise next year. It will be interesting to experience a new dynamic. I’ve been seeing them lately referred to as a premium line, but I don’t think what I paid is too much, considering it includes wifi and drinks.

[quote] I cannot imagine 15 drinks a day.

I used to think that, but when drinking drinks with little alcohol in them, it wasn’t too hard to hit the limit. I keep telling myself to drink only wine, beer, cider, or shots, so that I at least will get some bang out of it.

by Anonymousreply 178July 10, 2025 11:30 PM

[quote] I’m going on a Virgin Voyage gay cruise . It leaves from Barcelona. They brag about there being no Cafeteria/ Buffet on the ship- I’m concerned about that. I like being able to take food from the buffet back to my room and it’s quick which is especially good when you’re in a rush to go on an excursion.

You can take food from The Galley or any of the non-reservation eateries back to your room. No one is going to stop you. There’s also grab-and-go boxes of food available in several locations.

by Anonymousreply 179July 10, 2025 11:36 PM

R169 - You missed Hapag-Lloyd and at least a dozen other lines.

by Anonymousreply 180July 10, 2025 11:42 PM

[quote] when drinking drinks with little alcohol in them

I’ll add that with the ice in the glass, it’s not even a lot of liquid that you’re drinking.

by Anonymousreply 181July 10, 2025 11:43 PM

You can’t water down a bottled beer. 15 beers is A LOT.

by Anonymousreply 182July 10, 2025 11:44 PM

Wine too.

by Anonymousreply 183July 10, 2025 11:52 PM

The 15 drink a day thing is more of an indicator of the size of these beached whales that are on the cruise.

Some of these obese people are 300 pounds or more. They can drink 6 drinks and not be legally drunk because of their body size.

A 300lb man can drink 10 beers in 3 hours and be under 0.10%. (!!)

Nobody thinks drinking 15 drinks is a great idea - but I can see how it happens - particularly if you start at noon and are up until 10pm. It's not insane for 1 day - every day is another story.

by Anonymousreply 184July 11, 2025 12:13 AM

R184 Drinking that much alcohol can't be healthy for anyone, but what you are saying is true. Ethanol blood level is a function of body weight, gender and probably age. In some of those videos you can see some really HUGE people. That may be one reason they choose cruises to begin with. Lots of/unlimited food with little walking.

by Anonymousreply 185July 11, 2025 1:08 AM

[quote]You missed Hapag-Lloyd and at least a dozen other lines.

Yes, but why list more - no one was listening. They're still talking about the lines for the poors...

by Anonymousreply 186July 11, 2025 1:27 AM

[quote]Celebrity always seemed the most gay friendly mass market line. Not sure if it still is. It started as the Hyatts and the Greeks and every ship has been better than the one before it. The food, service, cleanliness are all great. Entertainment varies, they try to dazzle. It’s middle-aged, middle class, more than some swinging and sauna adventures with married men on the dl.

I took a Celebrity cruise and from the first night all the gays, lesbians, and straights looking for a good time congregated at the same bar. All stone-faced but very hot Eastern European dudes doing flair bartending. Had fun chatting up an extremely sportif (and clearly wealthy) lesbian couple that took cruises four times a year.

And there was NOTHING for children to do on the ship.

by Anonymousreply 187July 11, 2025 1:44 AM

R187 - yep - my experience too. I think there were like 6 kids on the entire ship - that's their problem. But yes - many stone-faced Eastern Europeans.

I like the Celebrity experience.

by Anonymousreply 188July 11, 2025 1:58 AM

[quote]19 people a year fall overboard. I wonder how many of them are on Carnival ships?

On Carnival, most of them probably jump. I know I would.

by Anonymousreply 189July 11, 2025 2:12 AM

I guess Patti LuPone found a new job.

by Anonymousreply 190July 11, 2025 2:14 AM
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