Mamdani is so hot

Oh noes! Fake outrage! More!

Ah, shut uppa you face!

Anti-semitism and entitled dilettantism are real boner killers.

Oh, yeah, outrage. Because every Italian American I know identifies with and reveres Christopher Columbus. It’s not 1910 folks.

[quote]Mamdani stokes Italian American outrage

LUIGI!!

Ewww, are you blind?

Get your eyes checked pronto!

Or better yet, raise your standards!!!

The right ringers at the Post are all-in on identify politics all of a sudden. Wonder why?

Now is the perfect moment to replace that monstrosity with a statue of Lieutenant Columbo.

Every attack on him is an emotional appeal to hierarchy.

What's with the half-assed greasy Superman curl on the forehead?

He’s cute not hot. Christopher Columbus was a genocidal tyrant. Outrage not forming!

Muslims will never forgive themselves that they did not discover and colonize America. But they were focused on Western Europe and India at that time.

r11 that's not entirely untrue.

Also, the Americas were not going to remain untouched forever. If Europeans hadn't discovered it, others would have eventually.

Could you even imagine a Muslim colonization of the Americas? It would've made the European colonization look like fucking Disneyland.

my boi-p*ssy stinks🤮...

Italian Americans are such stupid loudmouths

There is a new story every day with this guy. Are you Mamdani fans sure you've backed the right horse?

Why should the rest of the country care this much about who is elected mayor of NYC? I hear more about this guy than 95% of the members of Congress.

New York hasn't exactly had a shining record when it comes to mayors, anyway.

Is there any group he hasn’t insulted or mocked yet? Jews, 9/11 victims, Italians… he’s on a roll!

[quote]Italian Americans are such stupid loudmouths

This here. This is one of the big indicators that many DLers are elderly shut-ins who haven't communicated with the outside world in decades.

Here in New England there are tons of Italian Americans and they're fully assimilated, they are no different than any other caucasian ethnic group.

R15 try educating yourself about the right wing outrage machine. Learn media literacy. Develop critical thinking skills. It's really never too late to learn and grow.

R18's experiences are universal, everyone. Listen up, class is in session.

R18 oh please. those dagos are all pickpockets and chimneysweeps.

r20 you need to get out in the world and stop living in the past.

lol ok hon. I guess I should go to New England to learn about the world, too.

In 1964, when the Verrazzano Bridge from Brooklyn to Staten Island opened, so many thousands of Italians moved from Bensonhurst and Bay Ridge, lifelong Staten Islanders called it "The Guinea Gangplank."

I'm not feeling it.

r23 it's also the Northeast in general, except for maybe a few neighborhoods in the NY Metro area. Italians, like the Irish, are 100% Americanized now.

The Italian shit with eldergays is so bizarre. And I'm hardly young myself, I'm almost 50. When I was in school in the 80s and early 90s there was no distinction between the Italian-American kids and the other white kids.

DL is like a bizarre parallel universe sometimes.

[quote]In 1964, when the Verrazzano Bridge from Brooklyn to Staten Island opened, so many thousands of Italians moved from Bensonhurst and Bay Ridge, lifelong Staten Islanders called it "The Guinea Gangplank."

Too funny. If huge numbers of Italians moved to Staten Island today instead of the current crop of immigrants, they'd hold a fucking parade for them.

R26, I live in a large Northeast city with a large Italian American presence. Neighbors up and down both sides of my street have Italian last names. There are also many Italian Americans in my extended family. One whole side is almost 100% Italian.

I also leave my house quite regularly and am neither "elderly" nor a "shut-in."

No one is claiming Italian Americans are unassimilated. That's just you using that word. No one is claiming Italians are using Mario and Luigi accents and making meatballs and praying novenas and doing mob hits all day. We know Italians are assimilated. We are not stupid.

But it's undeniable that many - not all - Italian Americans, like Irish and Polish and German Americans, still have a distinct culture, and that culture often expresses itself in a heavy-handed, overbearing, LOUD way. Denying this and pretending it doesn't exist anywhere because of your limited New England experience doesn't change that. Go to Staten Island or South Philadelphia and tell me Italians are as assimilated as Boston Brahmins. Go watch Andrew Cuomo or Jeanine Pirro and tell me Italians are never "loud mouthed" or overbearing.

No, this stereotype doesn't apply to all, but to claim it's long since been eradicated through assimilation is laughable to many of us.

R26 I was just shitposting because I think old-fashioned intra-white racism is funny, but DL is so dead serious.

[quote]] He’s cute not hot. Christopher Columbus was a genocidal tyrant. Outrage not forming!

What nonsense! If it were not for those European explorers, none of us would be here, and there would be no United States in which Mamdani could seek public office.

r28 it's mostly been eradicated except for some distinct neighborhoods, as has already been noted.

BTW, Andrew Cuomo is pretty much like every other loud mouthed white dude from the NY area. There are tons on non-Italian white guys who behave exactly like him. Maybe it's more of a NY-area thing rather than an ethnic thing.

[quote]Denying this and pretending it doesn't exist anywhere because of your limited New England experience doesn't change that.

I was just using New England as an example. Italian-Americans are pretty much assimilated all over the US except for some neighborhoods.

This is just a convenient rhetorical weapon for non-Mamdami Italian voters (which is most Italian voters) to pick up and hurl at him.

[quote] If it were not for those European explorers, none of us would be here, and there would be no United States in which Mamdani could seek public office.

Yes, true, but none of that negates the fact that starting with Columbus those "explorers" were often also brutal exploiters. It's not anything we can do anything about, except to try to build a better, more fair country. But if somebody wants to point at that Columbus was a moral monster, well, yeah, he kinda was. It's not a trauma for somebody to point that out. Acknowledge it, and then get to voting for the only candidate who actually gives a shit about doing anything about New York's current problems.

[quote]Yes, true, but none of that negates the fact that starting with Columbus those "explorers" were often also brutal exploiters.

It was the same story that has happened throughout history. The colonization/settling of what became the United States was typical of all the other colonizations/settlings all over the world that preceded it. History is violent and ugly.

Also true, r35, but the difference is nobody is asking anybody to pretend that Genghis Khan or Attilla the Hun or Julius Caesar weren't monsters in many ways. They were all other things as well, of course, but still nobody feels some silly need to pretend that attacking them is some horrifying attack on their ethnic group. They did amazing things, sucked in many ways, and we don't need to pretend either wasn't happening.

I will say the scale of the death in the New World was different, but really that has a lot more to do with diseases spreading so easily to a population that had no immunity. The real genocidal maniac was the smallpox virus, but the colonizers certainly didn't mind helping things along with the occasional slaughter as needed or wanted.

[quote][R28] it's mostly been eradicated except for some distinct neighborhoods, as has already been noted

Staten Island is not a "neighborhood." It's a borough. South Philadelphia is also not a "neighborhood," it's nearly 20% of the entire city's geography and contains dozens of actual neighborhoods.

It was claimed above that Italian Americans are 100% assimilated with no trace of their native culture and that is laughably false to those of us in these "neighborhoods." It's also worth noting that this culture persists well outside of these "neighborhoods" all across the northeast, including all of New Jersey, much of upstate NY, large swathes of Pennsylvania, and, of course, New England.

r37 yes there are pockets just like there are with all ethnic groups but the eldergays for God knows what reason seem to have a hard-on for believing Italian-Americans are all guido types everywhere. It's truly bizarre. Most of them today are the same as other white ethnic groups. And yes, 100% assimilated.

[quote] It's also worth noting that this culture persists well outside of these "neighborhoods" all across the northeast, including all of New Jersey, much of upstate NY, large swathes of Pennsylvania, and, of course, New England.

Not entirely true. NJ and PA and NE have huge numbers of Italian Americans who are totally assimilated.

Seems like all the air is coming out of his socialist balloon.

[quote]try educating yourself … Develop critical thinking skills. It's really never too late to learn and grow.

So persuasive r19. Being patronizing is such a sure-fire tactic to sway people to vote for Mamdani.

It almost seems like more of a DL insider joke at this point r38. I don't know. Maybe some are seriously concerned about whether Italians are "truly" white, but mostly it just seems like a funny, kinda dumb gotcha thing to say to Italian American racists, that hey, bitch, you sure you're really white yourself?

[quote]Mamdani is so hot

This FAMILY GUY clip was made about women voters, but I think it also applies to many gays, particularly the effeminate type, who tend to be like women in many ways, including voting emotionally rather than rationally.

Yes, them homos and chicks is nothing like the douchebros out there voting for the calm rationality of Trump. In fact, is there any tiny part of the Trump Cult that doesn't come down to ME NO LIKE, ME GRRR, ME VOTE MAD!!!

R35 not to mention, hominins (e.g. Homo sapiens, Neanderthals, Denisovans) have been displacing each other the world over for millennia.

And when Homo sapiens crossed over the Bering Strait into the Americas around 15,000 years ago, they caused the extinction of several prehistoric animals (e.g. wooly mammoths).

r45 Homo Sapiens caused the extinction of Neanderthals. If we had video of what actually happened, it would most likely be appalling.

[quote]God knows what reason seem to have a hard-on for believing Italian-Americans are all guido types everywhere. It's truly bizarre. Most of them today are the same as other white ethnic groups. And yes, 100% assimilated.

I wonder why it bothers some of you so much when DL says that Italians aren't white-white.

Because it's archaic and stupid r47

[quote]Because it's archaic and stupid [R47]

If people stopped posting shit on DL because it's archaic and stupid, the board when dry up and wither away.

Because it's equal parts racist and ignorant, moron. You announce your own stupidity every time you trot that out.

You queens are gonna be so upset when he wins

not all of us r51. I fully expect him to win, and he is the only one who seems like he won't just go through the motions of pretending to care about all groups and all factions. Instead, I suspect he wants to get real things done, and not just play make believe with commissions and stale initiatives.

R39- Who assimilated them?

THE BORG

New Yorkers love him.

I can't wait til he wins. I'm not a New Yorker but I'm thrilled we're seeing a Democratic Socialist elected mayor of the country's largest city. Democrats need a new direction and it's not to the right that so many mistake for the center. The center is well to the left of Democrats like Andrew Cuomo and Kirsten Gillibrand.

My opinion on him will be anathema here, but put simply, I just don’t know what to make of him. He truly seems like a unique phenomenon. I haven’t seen someone like him before.

I’m watching everyone try to put him in their respective boxes of A vs B, but he doesn’t fit any of those narratives.

It’s a fascinating experiment that I’m actually looking forward to seeing develop.

Just as an aside, he reminds me of a hotter Muslim Lin Manuel Miranda. And Miranda is very popular.

R17 My kinda guy minus the socialism.

Italian Americans may have fully assimilated but they still have a unique culture, especially those in the northeast. Italy Americans act just like black people. They just get white privelege.

He's very cute and I'd definitely do him, but hot is a stretch.

r56: Exactly how I feel. He's an enigma.

I have no idea what he will do.

[quote]Italy Americans act just like black people. They just get white privelege.

You are a total moron.

The capitalists are petrified and throwing “scandal” after scandal at Mamdani— He hates Jews! Blacks! Italians! He’s Muslim and they can’t be trusted!!

R62 Autotype. Meant Italian Americans.

r64 you're still a total moron.

Will he present hole to get votes?

It's not as effective as we'd hoped r66

he’s got a great platform and connects with voters quite well, but he’ll get totally ratfucked by the establishment if he gets elected, and they’ll hold him up as an example of why “socialism doesn’t work”.

He doesn't seem all that Punjabi Hindu from his mom.

He can win the primary but they will cheat the general election against him.

Maybe r68, but I suspect he's not going to accept the traditional rule that the job of every Democrat is to get kicked in the dick and consider it a moral victory.

I hope he wins. He won’t be very good in the job, but Democrats need a new type of candidate to get voters excited and get disengaged people to the polls. That’s how Trump won twice.

R65 Fuck you. Angry ass.

R72 That’s exactly how I feel.

He is not hot—and I say that as someone who tends to find Indian men attractive. He has a pudgy face and an ugly smile. His sex appeal is zero to me.

Hottie, big-cocked Ryan has made a statement. This can't be good.

Ryan Serhant can suck my big thick dick.

I agree with others that he's kinda cute but he's a bit chubby to be considered in any way HOT.

[quote]Italy Americans act just like black people. They just get white privelege

Italian American neighborhoods are clean, peaceful and well cared for.

Italian American neighborhoods are the ONLY neighborhoods where "certain" people are afraid to go and cause mayhem, r79. They know those guineas don't fucking play.

R79 wow nice racism. There are plenty of clean and well taken care of black neighborhoods. It’s unfortunate you only know about projectish neighborhoods in big cities.

r81 Italian American neighborhoods are very well-kept and have a strong sense of community. And those hot AF Italian boys have always been very, very generous to my Irish-German ass! 😉

Those Italian neighborhoods are so clean because of the Mob. You guys completely ignore the ingrained criminal element in that community, while complaining about black people. Shame shame shame.

[quote] Those Italian neighborhoods are so clean because of the Mob.

The Mob? Oh, good grief.

Italian nonnas scrub their blocks from top to bottom. There’s no mob keeping anything clean.

The mob? What decade is this?