Trump’s Rich Cunt Agriculture Secretary: “Replace Migrant Workers with Medicaid Deadbeats!”

Agricunture Secretary

BITCH

A cold-hearted one.

No wonder why Trump appointed her to his cabinet.

How about replacing them with known Medicare fraudsters, i.e. Senator Rick Scott, R-FL?

Two-thirds of Medicaid recipients have at least one job, and most of the rest are classified as either "seeking employment" or "unable to work due to full-time family caregiving duties."

But Brooke of course thinks they're all unemployed and eager to work in some field picking onions.

This administration is full of so many evil cunts - Leavitt, Bondi, Noem, and now this bitch.

No woman with a brain or a soul would go anywhere near Donald Trump.

But plenty of empty, ghoulish whores would!

Quit slacking Agnes! Pick up the pace or I’m removing all the Chicken Soup books from the break area!

R7 Several million Medicaid customers are also senior citizens. They're on Medicaid because they're old AND poor.

And when they can't get enough that way, they'll start on Medicare and Social Security recipients.

Yes, let’s put Meemaw and Peepaw in the fields and try to make them pick 14 bushels of radishes in an hour. Nothing can go wring with this plan.

United States of America: FAIL

Aren't senior citizens on Medicare R8? Or am I mistaken?

R12 most are, but many are on Medicaid because they’re so ill and poor that medicaire doesn’t cover them enough.

Maybe Trumps cabinet will finally put an end to all of that fake "If Woman ruled the world..." BS.

R12 Millions of people are on both. They're dual-enrollees, due to age and poverty.

The Medicaid recipients who are NOT already employed, have qualifying family needs, or are elderly should not go anywhere near the food supply. They are largely unemployable. This will not be work out well for any of us.

This is not America. This is prerevolutionary France.

I can actually see them contracting with private prisons to hire convict labor. OMG it's 1866 all over again.

Does Medicare pay for nursing homes? I was under the the impression that they had to give away their assets to qualify for Medicaid to get in one of those STD holes.

R19, you seem confused. MediCARE - which is health insurance for seniors - pays for 100 days. MedicAID - which is health insurance for the impoverished (including seniors) - requires selling of most assets before it will pay long-term care benefits,

Yes, r20. I was asking if Medicare paid for nursing homes because I was under the impression that seniors had to get rid of their assets to qualify for long-term care. I know the difference between Medicare and Medicaid.

Obviously you don't R21. Medicare does not pay for nursing homes.

That's what I was asking in my original post, why seniors have to give away their assets to get long-term care if it should be covered by Medicare. Learn to read before being a cunt.

R13 Oh so they can be on both? I didn’t know that.

If slaves were forced to do it, surely they can find a way to do it, too.

I’m usually pretty compassionate, however, I’m somewhat relishing how these asshole MAGATS played themselves into this bullshit, all because of their racism & sexism.

PUHLEEZE! Go ahead & deport all of our agricultural laborers, & allow these poor white folk go out & EARN their healthcare, which is much more charitable and humane than what those born into slavery got if physically or mentally disabled, which was a bullet or hard shovel whack in or on their heads.

Wanna own the libs?

Cool!

Now go make sure you own a back brace too, and go pick that food, cause EVERYONE’S hungry, & we’re all counting on y’all to make that $35.00 salad happen at that nice restaurant in Malibu, where ‘elite’ libs eat lunch at on the regular!

WORK, Bitches, WORK!

You bitches need to learn about these programs NOW, before you get old and need them.

Because, based on the intellect on display around here, you didn't have the good sense to get an education OR marry money.

We had Medicare coverage for my mother's first 60 days in a "rehab facility." And we were able to get an extension for another 60 days. But my mother, at 91, was beyond rehab. So she had to go to a nursing home. At that point Medicare still covered her medical costs, but Medicaid covered the nursing home. The way it worked is that Ma had to use up all her assets first, (holding $2000 aside for burial expenses) then her monthly Social Security and Pension check, went directly to the nursing home, and the balance was covered by Medicaid, because she was income eligible. Everyone gets Medicare, but you have to qualify for Medicaid. Not everyone who receives Medicaid is on Medicare. For Medicare you have to be at least 65. Medicaid should be available to any low income person who qualifies, and it also covers special needs clients. The way it's funded is that the Feds used to pay at least half and the states paid t he rest, but it really did not put a burden of any significance on the states. And yet so many Red State governors refused t o participate, thus denying healthcare for their citizens. Medicaid was a voluntary situation, where a state could choose not to participate.

R27 The facility will take the entirety of your SS and pension check, save $75 per month that you're allowed to keep for personal expenses - haircuts, clothing, personal hygiene, gifts, etc. They provide three meals a day, but anything beyond that is on you and your $75.

Most of these bloviating retards have no idea what Medicaid is. They act like people are sitting at home collecting monthly checks from the government and spending the money on scratch-offs and cartons of Kools. It’s not a cash stipend, it’s medical reimbursement that acts the same as the Blue Cross you get through your employer. The so-called “deadbeats” never have a dime of Medicaid cash in hand. The Medicaid outlays go directly to healthcare providers and only to the extent that the so-called “deadbeats” are even receiving any medical care at all. This dumb sow, having presumably been born with a silver spoon up her cunt, has never had to give any real thought to the subject of getting sick while indigent.

R28 I'm just relating my mother's experience from 12 years ago.

Thinking this out where are all these new fruit pickers supposed to stay? Most will be from either the cities or from towns 100s of miles away from the fields. More concentration camps will be have to be built.

R30 I wasn't critiquing you. I was adding to your point.

Assisted living facilities, especially on Medicaid, sucks out loud. It's sad and it's broken.

Many people working at Walmart and Amazon are already on Medicaid, you stupid bitch. Now they're supposed to go pick vegetables at night?

The people I know on Medicaid are my mom’s peers, they are very old, need assisted living or nursing home care, and they aren’t even poor. A spot in a decent assisted living place is upwards of $6000 a month, nursing homes are over $10,000. And that’s not even for top of the line nursing homes. A friend who had Parkinsons entered a very nice nursing home (he was fairly wealthy), it was, I believe, $13,000 a month.

Jesus. Suicide is so much cheaper.

The Medicaid work requirements only apply to able-bodied, people ages 18-64 who don’t have children under the age of 14, so the elderly are already excluded.

R34, you have to be income eligible to be on Medicaid. And there are very few high end Nursing homes that will accept Medicaid in the prices you quote. One of the draw backs with Medicaid is that the program caps costs and it's not worth it to the nursing homes. My sister worked at an Area Agency on Aging, and they were very lucky to have a hybrid Medicaid Waiver Program. These weren't available nation wide and were kind of a successful experiment. With Medicaid Waiver, families could keep their Medicaid recipient, in this case elderly people, at home, and get Medicaid to pay for home care. It was very cost effective and patients got better care. It also worked as an aid to special needs kids who were income eligible. .

R37 here. Wanted to add that Some Nursing homes will set aside beds for Medicaid patients. So a facility may have 300 beds, and set aside 25 beds for Medicaid eligibles, or however many they need as far as their operating budget is concerned.

Aging in Place is turning out to be a painful fiasco for many seniors.

Most of us have homes that aren't conducive to aging, and we live in areas that foster social and medical isolation if you're not able to drive yourself every day.

Aging in Place is cheaper for the bean-counters, but it has a stack of drawbacks. You're stuck in what may be an unfit home. You're dependent on home health aides who are generally not well-trained or well-vetted (they steal, abuse clients, and are rather transitory). You have limited social interaction - and the lack of social supports is as fatal to old people as a fall or a cancer diagnosis.

The Golden Girls Model is a nice ideal for single gays. You can pool your resources to live somewhere that works for aging bodies, share caregiving duties and household chores, and keep an eye on each other as an emotional support.

R17, and WWII Germany!

Often, if you enter as a Medicare patient, they will keep you as a Medicaid patient once you have spent down. It’s definitely something to ask when choosing a facility.

But they really are hellholes. My dad was in the second highest rated faculty in his city while he recovered from a hospital stay. They skipped PT most days, call bells were constantly ringing and left unanswered, and the workers bitched openly about their schedules and the patients. It took me loudly saying “my father is bleeding” after 30 minutes of waiting to get someone in his room.

Thankfully, he went back into the hospital. He got an infection at the facility (which was likely their fault), and they informed me he would have to pay more when he returned because he would need to be isolated. He died in the hospital about week later.

Beyond the politics and principles, this is the most inept government in our history. Farmers are already plowing under crops because farmworkers are hiding from ICE raids. "American" citizens are not going to work in the fields.

"Men are spending too much time working at computers, they need to go back to the factory floor to have a meaningful life." - Howard Luttnick, Sec of Commerce

"When I have hired 'white' American citizens to work in the fields, they usually last a couple hours before quitting." - Bakersfield farmer

MOST RECIPIENTS OF MEDICAID ARE INFANTS OR DISABLED!!!! WTF!!!!!

R43 Get out to the hospice! Take your catheter and pee bag out into the fields, you slacker!!

[quote] MOST RECIPIENTS OF MEDICAID ARE INFANTS OR DISABLED!!!! WTF!!!!!

The Medicaid work requirement applies only to people 18-64, so no infants, and the disabled are exempted from the requirement.

They will make what's already a nightmare even worse. The US has a disgraceful history of neglecting the old, sick, and vulnerable in this country. Two examples from my own family:

A cousin entirely dependent on Medicaid and SSDI. A trumper no less, at least he used to be, not sure what he's up to these days but he replied "fake news" when I informed him he was in danger of losing benefits if he supported rump. He has multiple sclerosis. When he was working his employer didn't offer health insurance. After breaking a leg medical expenses led to bankruptcy. He never completely recovered then MS kicked in. He's unable to work, loss of benefits could kill him. If he became homeless he wouldn't last for long.

Another elderly relative, a widow we helped care for, was in her 90s and quickly running through savings while living in a board and care home ($4,000 a month). I applied and got a Veterans Surviving Spouse pension for her through the VA which extended her savings by a couple of years. She was lucky to die before her savings ran out. We were calculating the months and working with a Social Worker to find a skilled nursing home that would take her when the money ran out.

It's a hellish experience. First, getting the grant took six months, the VA was backlogged. Countless forms, proof of service, birth certs, death certs, on and on. Can you imagine how it is now with tens of thousands of staffing cuts? Disgraceful!

Regarding Medi-Cal and skilled nursing. You can have only $2,000 in assets to qualify for a bed in CA. If you don't get in first with a paid bed until your money runs out you have no choice on where the elder will be located. The cost can average about $10,000 a month, quickly draining remaining savings. Even then, Skilled Nursing facilities can pick and choose their patients. If you're taking certain meds, anti-psychotics for example, they will turn you away. One facility told me that Medi-Cal beds are scarcer than hen's teeth. Even if your in a care facility in a regular room that has some Medi-Cal beds, there is no guarantee you'll get one if they are occupied when you need one.

Don't get old and sick without money and never vote Republican.

As far as aging in place, I want to take an example from my own dear Mum. She had a 2400 SF home, three bedrooms and three full baths on a half an acre. A huge family room on the lower level, Laundry was in the basement, and the bedrooms and 2 bathrooms were all upstairs. Another bathroom was down in the family room. She lived alone. So after Granny died, she sold the house moved to be close to my sister as her "first responder" and she has an 900 SF apartment condo on the first floor of a 3 story building, and takes an elevator to the parking garage under her building. It's lovely, it's secure., (gated community) and it is not far f rom the Mall, the supermarkets, movie theatres and museums. She is in excellent physical condition at 80 but we know that could change. At least she has remained independent and her little apartment is more than enough. One bedroom, one bath, and a galley kitchen. She complained about the small kitchen 10 years ago, but now she is fine with it.

R47 Most of our grannies don't own a gorgeously profitable home they can sell to fund their dotage.

Most old people are broke as shit.

R47, As a native San Franciscan, I have to ask. Where do you find homes in SF on one acre? Which mall? Stonestown? Is she downtown now?

My grandmother's last home was in the Outer Richmond. She would get all dressed up in her pretty suits, hats; and heels to take the bus downtown pop in to see me at work. Just like one of Herb Caen's little old ladies (the original LOLs). She had an apartment on Larkin St at the bay end while between husbands. It was fun to visit her there. She was sort of like Auntie Mame and just as irreverent.

As I grow older I've learned that at 80 there is still quality of life when you're healthy. May your mom live long and well.

R47 here. I never said she was in San Francisco. No. We lived in Michigan, and the home Ma sold was one she had lived in for more than 20 years. What I am suggesting is that all of us Gays over 50 need to start thinking about aging in place. And figure out how to ease into it.

Oops, the SF (2400 SF) triggered me. Sorry!

Anyway, happy to hear your mom is doing well.