Queen Elizabeth's Secret Fear: Meghan Markle Reportedly ‘Engineered’ Romance With Prince Harry

Anson was born in Windsor Castle to the Queen Mother’s sister. She was the queen’s confidante from the time of the monarch’s Golden Jubilee in 2002.

Anson alleged that the royal leader expressed worry about the union. In the post, she wrote, "When we spoke two weeks before the May 19 wedding, Liza had just heard from the Queen. 'The Number One Lady—I call her Jemima—says the jury is out on whether she likes Meghan.'”

“My Jemima is very worried," Anson reportedly told Bedell Smith. She alleged, “Harry is besotted and weak about women. We hope, but don’t quite think she is in love. We think she [Meghan] engineered it all.”

In her Substack, Bedell Smith shared Anson's remarks. “[Harry] said, ‘I am close to my grandmother, and she is content with this.’ When I spoke with the Queen, she said she is not at all content.”

Additionally, royal editor and biographer Ingrid Seward discussed Queen Elizabeth's concerns about Harry and Meghan's wedding in the book My Mother and I. The book detailed the relationship between the monarch and her son, King Charles III.

"The queen never voiced her true opinions except to her close confidants, such as Lady Elizabeth Anson, or Liza as she was known to her friends," Seward wrote in an excerpt published by The Daily Mail. "She told me that the Queen had made only one remark about Meghan and Harry's wedding and that was that Meghan's Givenchy wedding gown was 'too white.'"

Seward noted, “In the monarch’s view, [the dress] was not appropriate for a divorcée remarrying in church.” She added that Queen Elizabeth was reportedly uneasy with “the Disneyesque spectacle of the day itself,” though it remains unclear whether the Queen directly shared that opinion.

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry left their royal roles behind in early 2020. They celebrated their seventh wedding anniversary in May.

Anson died that same year, followed by Queen Elizabeth in September 2022.

Some confidant.

r2 The Queen's dead, these things should now come out for the sake of posterity.

[quote] Queen Elizabeth reportedly feared that Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s relationship wasn’t rooted in genuine love, according to a royal insider.

ABSOLUTE RUBBISH.

If anyone's relationship "wasn't rooted in genuine love," it was CHARLES AND DIANA, who were supposed to be the future King and Queen.

Charles did not love Diana at all, which is why he cheated on her with Camilla during their marriage.

So yeah, it's quite hypocritical of her to criticize Harry's relationship with Meghan, considering her own son's horrible relationship with Diana.

At least she did it on her own. The Princess of Wales had to rely on her stewardess mom to do her dirty work.

Please.

The Queen used the adjective “Disneyesque?” Sure, Lady Jan.

No wonder: she'd grown up since the age of 10 hearing all about the manipulative and monstrous Mrs. Simpson.

Her dress was "too white." Code for: Meghan is a WHORE!

HUSSY! The Queen wasn’t vulgar.

R4 What does any of this have to do with Charles and Diana's marriage?

Wow, R10.

I've been undressed by a future king and I've seen some things that a woman ain't supposed to see. I've been to Buckingham but I've never been to me..

R4, right, because there's no way she might have learned anything in the decades since.

Uh, the royals always cheated on one another and got married for looks not love. Give me a break. Her husband was fucking everyone and she knew it.

Manipulate Harry? Unpossible!

Assuming the Queen actually said any of this about Markle…all of it is 100% spot-on.

It’s helpful to the journalist that both the Queen and Elizabeth Anson are dead and cannot refute this story.

Any way, we all hate Markle.

Too bad Queenie didn’t have the same concerns about her first son and Diana Spencer.

There were no such concerns with Diana: The BRF needed an intact hymen attached to a posh naif of legal age. And she was the only one in existence.

Sorry Queenie -the whole world knew of the ‘’engineering’’. Megs really hoodwinked you and family. Do better next time. Oh yeah-dead.

It's fascinating that after all these years, they're still pulling out the same nonsense. Harry is exactly where he wants to be, everyone else just needs to move the fuck on. At this point, it's almost psychotic and sad, so very sad.

Maybe Harry's parents should have raised him with more discernment. Oh wait.

Diana had no interest in Charles as a man. She just wanted to be queen. She pretended to share all of his interests until they were married. She was quoted as telling a friend that she'd get married in Westminster Abbey or St Paul's or not at all.

He should have proposed to Camilla back in the 70s, but she wasn't a virgin.

Marrying someone so much younger and so soon was a mistake, but he needed a virgin.

It was never going to work.

I’m sure the Queen did not believe a divorced woman should wear a white wedding dress. Charles and Camilla (who did not wear white) were not even married in a church because they were each divorced. I can believe the Queen considered Megan’s wedding “Disneyesque.” She was a smart lady.

Dumb comment of the afternoon.

No shit Meghan engineered the relationship with Harry. He can barely tie his shoelaces. At least, I hope she did. Why would anyone of any substance marry that loser unless they had other designs?

Ugh, enough of these rich Brit white trash already! All of them. I’m sick of jeering about their old dead queen and their drunken old king and their perpetually martyring “princess” Kate and their blackish grifting relation and mentally retarded ginge prince. Seriously, can’t the western world be rid of this white-trash-with-money family already?

“Will my grandchild be black??!!”

The world’s richest welfare family

R30 Wow did you just come up with that?! That's genius!

Lilibet's actual "secret fear" was getting anal warts from Phil.

Wouldn’t a practical woman who had “engineered” the relationship and was game to be a member of the BRF be exactly what they wanted?

Yes but only if they paled by comparison …amirite?

Meghan might not have been in love with Harry? Was just using him for fame and position? I haven't been this stunned since Richard Simmons came out as a fag.

The whole "racist royal" thing is such BS. If the royals had been so concerned about Archie possibly being dark skin, they wouldn't have let a mixed race woman marry into the royal family in the first place. Let's be real...the only reason Meghan was allowed to marry into the BRF is because she is a woman of color. If she had been white, honey, they would've pushed her off the balcony.

[quote]Queen Elizabeth's Secret Fear: Meghan Markle Reportedly ‘Engineered’ Romance With Prince Harry

The queen was right.

But the queen should have divulged more to her cousin. All this coy, obtuse, talking in code and nothing revealed until the principals are dead concerning the British royal family leads to all this speculation all the time about everything. Markle is a whore. All she wants is money. Well, fame and adulation too. But mostly money.

^^And Markle will no doubt get some of Charles' money via Harry when Charles dies. Markle is not going to miss out on that windfall of cash. She will do whatever she must--and that includes hanging on in that ridiculous marriage with Harry until Charles kicks the bucket.

Hilarious thread.

[quote]r14 Give me a break. Her husband was fucking everyone and she knew it.

Exactly! And as if that very marriage of Philip to Big Liz wasn't "engineered" to the [italic]nth degree!

Philip was a prince, r40, not some rando, and the then Princess Elizabeth and her circle were fully aware of what she was doing when the decision for her to marry Philip was made.

Even so, there was in fact lots of resistance to the choice of Philip among parts of the establishment. As it turned out, he was a great consort who supported the Queen in her duties and added some fun to the royal family.

As for Philip supposedly fucking everybody, that's more guesswork than based on credible evidence.

I suspect that Bedell Smith is hugely embellishing, but the idea of Meghan engineering in this case would be that she manipulated a dumb and easily manipulable Harry into thinking she was in love with her just so she could marry a prince, even though she has no respect for what being a prince entails. When reality turned out to be different from her fantasy - because dumb Harry didn't explain things to her properly - she caused havoc.

that's more guesswork than based on credible evidence.

If r41 is "more guesswork than based on credible evidence" then this entire thread, including the OP is made-up bullshit.

As for Philip, it's factually true that there lots of resistance to him among parts of the establishment as a potential suitor for Elizabeth, but as it turned out, he was a great consort who supported the Queen in her duties and added some fun to the royal family.

It’s always entertaining to hear a bunch of Americans who know nothing about the British Royal Family pontificating about the British Royal Family and invariably getting it wrong because, as always, Americans are always right, even when they’re wrong, which is most of the time.

Oh do eff off R44. As if “knowing” anything about these Nazi-adjacent inbreds living off the backs of the commoners is something to brag about.

"Engineered" is a funny term from the people who brought us Charles and Diana, the fairytale bride and groom.

This is laughable. Royals and nobility practically invented arranged marriages. The lack of self-awareness from this ridiculous, useless social class never fails to amaze.

It's always entertaining to see a handful of British Tories interloping on a gay American website to breathlessly post the latest shit droppings from a bunch of irrelevant old Nazis on a forgotten rock off the coast of Northwest Europe.

The royal family is supported right across that political spectrum in the UK, r47. Even in Canada, liberal politicians such as Trudeau and Carney are huge royal enthusiasts.

You prove r44 right about ignorant pontificating when you waffle nonsense about 'British Tories".

R46, can you actually quote the bit where anyone in the royal family actually used the term "engineered"?

Perfectly proving my point R45.

“Eff off”? Too scared to say “fuck off”, are you, precious?

Isn't there a British site for you straight homophobic women r44? One where you are not biting the hand that feeds you?

Too funny R47. You assume that I’m British and Tory because you disagree with me - in fact I’m neither.

But of course as you’re a clueless American you assume both.

I’m neither straight nor a woman, R51, although I do admit the occasional homophobic moment when dealing with silly American cunts like you.

If it quacks like a straight British old lady...

So clever, R54!

And that's without even trying.

Block the troll. It's easy and so worth it.

Or let DL do it r57. So many of these threads already have missing posts.

[quote] Even in Canada, liberal politicians such as Trudeau and Carney are huge royal enthusiasts.

Are you trying to speak for all Canadians by refetencing two politicians?

I swear none of our rabid royalists are actual gay people who came here organically. All of them are conservative CUNTS just dying to let the mask slip and unleash their homophobia.

Exactly r60.

I'm a gay American man who has been discussing various Royals here for many years preceding Meghan's wedding. I originally came to DL from the Atkol (porn) forums, and stayed for the gossip about Old Hollywood and the Royals. Harry and Meghan's wedding brought an influx of posters who ONLY discuss them, and no other topics. But, if the topic of the BRF is so tedious to you, KGT, why are you the most prolific poster on these threads? You keep bumping them to the top of the page, after all, when you could just block them, as I block lots of threads and posters.

[quote]Even in Canada, liberal politicians such as Trudeau and Carney are huge royal enthusiasts.

can't speak for Carney but Trudeau was definitely not. The events surrounding the coronation were muted at best and when Harry and Meghan moved to Canada (before they left the Royal family definitively), Trudeau made it clear to Buckingham palace that we will not spend any $$ on their security.

They called her Backdoor Rachel in college for a reason. Piss flaps like Dumbo's ears.

Only one NU Kappa married a real prince.

From whence she came:

“Harry is besotted and weak about women."

So he's cunt struck! OHHHH!

Queen Elizabeth II, of course, sized up Meghan and Harry (both) correctly.

R63, I said "huge royal enthusiasts", i.e. enthusiasts of the royal family, not enablers of the idiots Harry and Meghan. Supporting those two twits is in fact anti-royal. Trudeau has always spoken positively about the monarchy and how it's a source of stability for Canada.

No, r59, I was not trying to speak for all Canadians. I was talking about support for the royal family across the poltical spectrum in the UK and also added that in a country like Canada, where the British monarch is the head of state, there is political support for the monarchy among decidely non-Tory political forces, and referenced Carney and Trudeau as the current and previous prime ministers.

It's helpful if you want to reply to a post to read the other posts it references, so you can get the context and not misinterpret.

It’s called buttering up…that’s all.

Well, Trudeau has spoken out in support of Canada's system of constitutional monarchy, so it's a bit more than buttering up, r69.

Nah. That’s really it.

Looks like Elizabeth's secret fears went with her to the grave three years ago, so her public can move on and no longer be concerned.

I get Markle in a way. I’m sure Harry explained the royal duties to her and I think she understood them. What probably hit her was the reality of it all. Maybe she wants to exert herself in areas where she had no control. I can see that is very frustrating. We’ve all been there. Having to play along to get along the same time you really want to show that you’re not easily cowed and biddable.

Yup, that's it r71. Trudeau supports Canada remaining a constitutional monarchy and opposes arguments that it should beccome a republic.

Ooh. Single woman goes after a man! The horror! The Shane!

R73, marrying into the royal family isn't about "having to play along to get along while at the same time show that you’re not easily cowed and biddable". There is a certain role that comes with being married to a working royal, especially one in such a prominent position as son to the heir of the throne. Of course, if you don't want to perform that role you don't have to, and Meghan could easily have maintained a low-key profile and supported a few personal projects quietly. They could even have migrated to North America and simply said "we support the Queen/King and the royal family in their duties but our own desire is to live in the US and raise our family quietly". But Harry and Meghan wanted to be the Duke and Duchess, and not just with prominent roles in British public life but the most central roles. She was going to be the big star who was going to shake up the stuffy royals. Even if they had personal conflicts with members of Harry's family or the palace staff, they didn't need to wash their dirty laundry in public. But they did, and they did so deliberately, and they did so with lies and with the intent to damage Harry's family and to sway public opinion against them. And now they want us to take them seriously as entrepreneurs or brand founders or philanthropists and activists or whatever they think they're doing.

[quote]I’m sure Harry explained the royal duties to her and I think she understood them.

I don’t think Harry was capable of explaining them. He’d grown up in the system which is a labyrinth of Byzantine rules. Basic stuff, sure but I’ll bet all day Megs heard no, you can’t do that, no, that’s not allowed, no, that’s so-and-so’s turf. For someone used to operating independently, it must’ve been a nightmare. Still, she was greedy and desperate. Her best path would’ve been as “the girlfriend”. Ride it for a few years and then use the notoriety to find a rich guy. But at her age that wasn’t an option.

Who said anything about a republic?

Kate literally picked her university specifically to meet William. So if any relationship was engineered it was that one.

That's a supposition that some like to make, r79. However they met, William has a brain and thinks things through. He entered a relationship with Catherine, put that relationship to the test and subsequently married her having thought very clearly and deeply about what he was doing and whether she was the right person for him and the life he was destined to live. He got to know her family, her background, her personality, her abilities, her foibles, her stamina before he committed to her. It would be difficult to say the same of Harry and his relationship with Meghan.

He forget to check her medical records.

[quote] But they did, and they did so deliberately, and they did so with lies and with the intent to damage Harry's family and to sway public opinion against them. And now they want us to take them seriously as entrepreneurs or brand founders or philanthropists and activists or whatever they think they're doing.

And he did it to make a buck, R76. That was what made it so unforgivable to his family, I bet. I wonder how much arm twisting of the dimwitted prince there was for him to spill the beans. Or was he saw consumed with petty grievances and spite that he stupidly agreed to salacious details of his family and life that he spilled those details willingly? I bet it's a mixture of both.

The Queen was right. To a woman of her generation and upbringing, divorce was frowned upon, you ignored, and you carried on. Her children's marriages destroyed that ethos. The second marriages of Charles and Anne were what she expected...especially Anne's. Neither she nor Camilla wore bridal gowns. Harry and Meghan were over the top. She'd been around the block once before...she was no blushing virgin.

Markle is an American and an actress. She wasn't used to a life of deference. She also wants top billing...something she would never achieve there. I imagine, too, that she expected to live Hollywood-like, extravagant lives in palaces. Instead, she got a cottage on the grounds of Kensington Palace and an old house (refurbished to the tune of several million pounds for them) on the grounds of Windsor Castle. Her expectations were more "Crazy Rich Asians" opulence.

Now, they live lives more lavish than his pampered and privileged relatives in Britain. William and Kate no doubt live in way-more-than-comfortable surroundings at Anmer Hall, Kensington Palace, and Windsor Castle, but I guarantee you, his estranged brother and sister-in-law live in more extravagant, nouveau riche surroundings.

You type crazy^^