‘And Just Like That’ season 3— Thread 3

Thread 2

Lisa said her dad died in season 1. What was the point of Bitsy if they didn't mention her kid or husband. Just a commercial for consumption and Tiffany. This is becoming a slog. Eat the rich

Let’s face facts. This show sucks without me.

What’s his name on the left has had a lot of work done on his face.

Can’t believe no one has mentioned the Post-it note throwback. I thought that was a nice subtle nod.

Bad episode. Boring. Lisa and Charlotte had amateur hour level acting. Carrie freaks out over a banana/yogurt/coke in the previous episode and in this episode is completely unfazed by her boyfriend cheating.

What did the post it say? They're writing this series like the audience and the characters are octogenarians yet I can't see the text messages or post it writing.

It just saying “Going to Scranton,” but it was a clear nod to Berger’s breakup post-it. Carrie gave it a little pause that seemed to be a wink and a nod.

Last week's episode was written and directed by the same 2 people who are credited for this week.. So why was this week such shit?

They’re saying LTW’s dad might be gay and one of her two dads previously died

How much did TUMS pay for the double product placement in this week's episode?

It’s possible for a person to have two dads. I have my biological dad who was always in my life but was raised by my mother and stepfather, who many call my dad as he raised me since I was 2.

I liked the episode a lot.

I'm going with GAY with the theater connection

The last scene in Walgreens worked a lot better than it should've.

R15 Did I miss a plot point? Why is Carrie wolfing down Tums? Is this a set up of some health crisis for her?

Sympathetic cancer

^Cuz the Thatcher biographer downstairs apparently makes her mutton stew all the time and it fucks with her acid reflux.

Also Carrie has acid reflux because her terrible jokes scar her throat

"The Pebble and the Post-it" - a short story.

R16 maybe pay attention as you watch. It’s very clear you don’t.

She states the mutton her downstairs neighbor makes her causes her acid reflux to go wild. Also a common sign of getting older is heartburn.

R11 It’s all the KFC.

It has officially crossed into shit show territory now.

Maybe she'll have a heart attack climbing the spiral staircase and smile and whisper, "Big"

Aiden is the worst. I hate when he's in a scene.

At least Charlotte knows how to cry properly - when filmed from behind.

R23, posting from Season 1.

They are really trying hard to turn Carrie into Frieda Claxton.

The "bid over" apartment Seema showed Miranda was really nice.

[quote]Maybe she'll have a heart attack climbing the spiral staircase and smile and whisper, "Big"

Hush, hush, sweet Carrie, Carrie, don't you cry

Hush, hush, sweet Carrie, He'll love you till he dies

Oh, hold him, darling, please hold him tight and brush the tear from your eyes

You weep because you had a dream last night, you dreamed that he said goodbye

He held two roses within his hand, two roses he gave to you

The red rose tells you of his passion, the white rose his love's so true

Hush, hush, sweet Carrie, Carrie, don't you cry

Hush, hush, sweet Carrie, he'll love you till he dies

And every night after he shall die, yes, every night when he's gone

The wind will sing to you this lullaby:

Hush, hush, sweet Carrie, Carrie, don't you cry

Hush, hush, sweet Carrie, he'll love you till he dies

A lot of the recappers are shocked that Carrie is so accepting of Aiden hooking up with his ex-wife. But lots of exes have sex one-offs, especially when there is drama concerning ome of theor kids happening. And anyway, Carrie never thought their arrangement meant they couldn’r sleep with others.

The fact that she wasn’t outraged by Aiden’s (tiresome) confession indicates she’s increasingly fed up with his unrealistic, compulsive behavior and is comtemplating sleeping with Duncan. I mean we’ve known where this was going ever since Duncan returned to his apartment.

Why does Carrie refuse to commit to her new place and actually furnish it? Any person who could afford such an expensive place would have hired an interior designer the second they closed on the property.

R28, now I know who she looks like!

They're probably setting it all up so she can return to her old place - and thrill the fraus. But they could do that even if she did furnish her place.

Charlotte's over the top weeping and worrying about prostate cancer that has a 98% success rate is bizarre. She needs to worry more about the migrants who are being persecuted by Mayor Adams and Tom Holman.

Do Carrie and Aiden have an open relationship?

According to Carrie, yes. Aiden, no.

She said to him "I can't believe we haven't talked about this until now." She was actually right when she pointed out, "you expect me to wait five years and not sleep with anyone else."

[quote]She needs to worry more about the migrants who are being persecuted by Mayor Adams and Tom Holman.

Don't let retard R35 write any episodes, it's enough of a shitshow as it is.

R11 especially in the drug store where Tums took up what seemed half the store space, with every size and variety of Tums ever produced was sitting on perfectly lined, filled shelves.

Has Carrie slept with anyone else besides Aiden? I forget

R12 sure but why are we even having to discuss it. She said her dad was dead in season one. If another person with a dad or “dad -like “ role in her life dies and it’s a big deal they should explain who he is.

Ding ding!

Nicole Ari Parker was terrible on the latest episode. Sorry.

Nicole was bad. And I usually think she’s good.

I think Cynthia Nixon is one of the most physically repellant people on earth. The teeth. The red hair. She looks like that disgusting kid at school who was double jointed.

It’s runner-up to her spouse, if that’ your standard.

R43: Pretty face, no talent.

Carrie and Aidan need to do a Miranda and Steve and have a heartbreaking, final break-up for good this time.

I find it hard to believe Aiden’s ex would still want to tap that.

Rojo Caliente needs to come on as a guest star

Nicole Ari Parker was fine. She seemed disconnected though, like she was phoning it in. And I don’t blame her

This sounds more fun than anything we see on the show.

read WHET the real Big:

Good article, but the real Mr. Big is somewhat underwhelming. Plus, I wonder what he thinks of Bushnell’s mining a whole career out of what sounds like a brief fling with no real relationship.

He tells us in the article, no? Neither he nor Bushnell express anything other than some goodwill towards each other.

The LTW character does not come off as particularly intelligent. She seems way more like any shallow, scattered socialite.

What are you talking about, R55, she's producing a documentary - she must be smart.

A producer is good getting money.

At least Ari Nicole Parker’s wig was better in this episode. The one she wore in the past two was horrendous. Maybe she chose it to distract the audience from her phone-it-in performance.

R57 not upfront she’s not, especially for a doc. Your comment makes no sense. And, she’s the director.

[quote] Any person who could afford such an expensive place would have hired an interior designer the second they closed on the property.

And there's one person right for that job: Grace Adler. At this point, they may as well dial up the ridiculousness to the max.

For the love of God, if this thing is going to continue, get rid of Aiden.

Or cancel it and make a spin-off starring Ms. Jenifer Lewis of the St. Louis Lewises.

Just when I thought this bitch couldn’t get any uglier. There is nothing great about abortion nor does it feel great to the woman experiencing it.

What happened to the Columbia Professor. Has she been written out?

Just when I thought Aiden couldn’t get more annoying, he starts throwing rocks at antique windows.

Who does that?

Why is Carrie dating this loser?

R63 Two colorful friends were enough.

R62-Absolute cunt. She makes me ill.

R63: She took a job with the American Law Institute. Funny how the two token diversity characters (Nya, Che) that served as accessories for Miranda are no longer.

Get your MAGA ass the fuck off DataLounge, R62. There is nothing “ugly” or even controversial about Cynthia Nixon’s outrage at Trump’s cancel of funds to Planned Parenthood. We’re not the kind of hicks who follow Parade magazine, let alone agree with their political timidity, dearie, so go back to your Republican women’s discussion groups.

What IS ugly is your constant personal insults and disparagment of an actress whose progressive politics you object to.

Again, you’re barking up the wrong tree here, go piss somewhere else.

[quote]Why does Carrie refuse to commit to her new place and actually furnish it? Any person who could afford such an expensive place would have hired an interior designer the second they closed on the property.

It appears she bought two sofas, yet for some reason, they were still wrapped in plastic.

I had to laugh when Carrie opened her medicine cabinet for the Tums. All of her products were drug store staples (Neutrogena, Pond's cold cream). I guess they want us to believe this bitch is still an everywoman at heart, despite owning a $10 million home.

It was surprising to see Seema at Chauncey's funeral. In three seasons, Seema and Lisa have only been in two or three group scenes together, and I'm not sure if they have even shared any dialogue. Yes, Charlotte and Lisa are good friends, but it was funny that Lisa had all her...acquaintances seated with the family.

It just shows you how poorly they have integrated Lisa with the other characters (other than Charlotte) and the series itself. And it doesn't help that her main story (this neverending PBS docu-series) is deathly boring.

On the positive side, this season has had some strong female guest stars (Rosie, Cheri Oteri, Jenifer Lewis), so I hope LuPone continues that streak next week.

Are socialites dressed to the nines at all times? It’s so ridiculous

R68 = Rojo Caliente

Not even close, R70. Their modern version spends the day in a much more dressed down, stealth wealth look. Sometimes it’s very elevated athleisure, sometimes it’s an easy breezy look that actually costs thousands. It’s very rare to see even the fanciest women in a dress and heels at 10am, unless they are going to an event.

They are not socialites!

[quote]He tells us in the article, no?

No, he doesn’t.

He makes some bland “she’s a great gal” comments but says nothing about her parlaying their “story” into a 25-year-career.

R74, I mean he's clearly excited about it. He named his farm and other shit, Mr Big. I got a bunch of thumbs down on reddit saying he was cute enough and if he was funny, I'd've fucked him too. But now that I've read the article, he seems like a big douche too.

R62's mama should have sluiced her out when she had the chance. The world would have been far better off.

This show seems to be a hit for Max. Is there any other show that experiences this sort of success because a large portion of viewers love to hate watch it?

I still can't get over that Carrie, in her immaculate mansion would wear shoes that trod the filthy streets of Manhattan.

Aiden left Carrie for cheating, now he wants forgiveness for doing the same thing.

R77 he got instant forgiveness. Carrie didn’t seem to care at all.

I want Wyatt (and boyfriend Bob) walk in on Aiden stooping his mum. That would REALLY fuck him up.

Stooping? Is that like having sex on the entry porch of the house?

I love how the only options are 4 inch heels or bare feet.

Schtupping!

Schtupping with his gevaltig Schwanzstücker.

It's a SHANDA!

Patti is incoming…as Giuseppe’s mother. Oh boy.

Charlotte is NOT a FRIENDDDD!

Carrie needs a pair of those Step In Skechers! No laces to tie--just step in!

I truly do not know one person who wears shoes in their NYC apartment. When hosting a party, then sure, but when home alone or visiting with just a few people, it’s always shoes off. Personally I leave a nice pair of slippers right in my entranceway and pretty much wear them constantly until sleepy or leaving the apartment.

Have you seen Carrie's feet? She's got the feet of a ploughman. Ugly peasant feet so she definitely needs those slippers.

Don‘t you bitches remember that Carrie was traumatized when she lost her Manolos at a party where she had to take the shoes off?

But the host (Tatum O'Neal) bought her new ones.

R90 so she thinks someone will steal them from her home if she removes them at the door?

Yes but the trauma of not knowing for days...and for losing a "friend" over this (not that she would care)......the deep-seated psychological scars. No wonder she is reluctant to part with her shoes.

This is being mocked mercilessly everywhere.

Other than Aiden, Has Carrie fucked anyone since Big?

Carrie is a post menopausal women (close to 60). She’s not horny 24/7 like she’s 28 yrs old

Another huge thing they got wrong

R95, yes, the hot podcast producer.

And the guy who hit her with his bike. I had already forgotten bout the producer lol

"Carrie is a post menopausal women (close to 60). She’s not horny 24/7 like she’s 28 yrs old

Another huge thing they got wrong."

How? As poorly written as it is, it's not like they've had Carrie bedding a ton of guys and always talking about wanting sex.

Wouldn't these old hens be talking about menopause and the change nonstop?

The hot producer needs his own spinoff. Where he is newly gay and has tons of gay sex!

The producer first has to have sex with LTW's husband causing her to move after the divorce and thus ending her time on AJLT.

R100, because they are past menopause.

I completely forgot about the producer! I don't think she ever slept with the bike guy... they were interrupted

Seema could very well be broke or 'house poor'. She clearly spends money rapidly on clothes and luxury goods.

In one episode, we see Carrie bringing Duncan a "welcome to the building" house gift. But SHE is in fact new to the house. Duncan even explains that the prior owner upstairs wasn't as noisy as she was, so why is she bringing him a stupid welcome gift?

I liked the scene where Lisa is chewed out by her dramatic stepmother for not being around enough, and therefore not of privilege to actually plan her father's funeral. Lisa is a dimwit.

R102 that plot would cause her dad to die a third time!

If they had just brought in Seema and Che this whole thing could have been a lot better (I think with better writers Che could have been a really interesting - dare I say likeable character.

Lisa and Nya were pointless from the get go.

I suspect the embarrassment from killing Lisa's dad off twice will be the final nail in the coffin for this show. At this point people aren't going to bother hate watching any more, they were lucky to get 3 seasons out of it. Well done HBO Max

Keeping everything crossed for a surprise return from Berger. Some snarky 'nice hat' remarks on the ludicrous outfits on display would be brilliant.

They should treat Lisa’s dad like Kenny on South Park and kill him off in every episode.

Apparently the show has announced that one of the fathers that was killed was a stepfather, and this one they killed off was her real father.

But it sounds like they just made that up to cover for their stupidity. Because otherwise they would’ve been more specific.

I’m surprised they didn’t come out and say that in season 1, it was actually Lisa’s former MOTHER, who had transitioned to a male, that had died. That would be a more realistic plot line for this show.

R109 that’s because they wanted them to each have a friend of colour as well as being worried about how Samantha’s absence would be felt. They over corrected.

Oh, please... Like anyone watching this cares about continuity. It's like looking for logical inconsistencies in "Passions."

Yes, R115, and this could signal the return of Che, who somehow new Lisa's She-Dad, and can officiate the funeral services.

Of the new characters liked Che best. They should have just made her a fat lesbian. The I’m an it thing was annoying

Fat Lesbian Erasure is LITERAL VIOLENCE!

If they'd had a fat womon on garbage detail there never would have been any rats in Carrie's house.

Yes, the worst thing they did was try to pretend Che was some great and likable character. They could have made her, sorry them sympathetic, but that's different. The whole nonbinary thing was fucking annoying, and people would've thought it was stupid (looking at you, Charlotte, especially). But if they had simply acknowledged that fact of life, and had people slowly come around to this idea, and try to deal with it more or less, everyone would have been better off.

But they went with stupid and lazy and trying to score quick woke points, and fucked it all up, and everyone wound up hating them.

But yeah, even better, just be a fucking lesbian and stop all that shit in the first place.

I don't think that the theatre lady was the father's girlfriend.... if she were, she would have come to the dinner party when we met Lisa's dad

Upon seeing LTW walk into the theatre in that headpiece, I fully expected her to cross her arms and exclaim “Wakanda forever!”

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Che was the worst character ever written in the history of television.

Oh, they were fucking, R123.

Oh please R127. They were old, they hadn’t fucked for years.

What is bizarre is the character that has been humiliated the most is Miranda and yet ALL of her character’s decline has been her idea and her plot meddling.

I’m surprised Miranda hasn’t had explosive diarrhea yet. I’m sure that plot is forthcoming.

^ They did that with Charlotte in one of the movies.

I think they should just turn this show into a weekly soap opera that just keeps going endlessly. The storylines are already as preposterous as a soap.

R130 You mean when a drop of water from her Mexican shower enters her mouth for a second and causes her explosive diarrhea? Astoundingly racist stuff.

R132 yes, that’s the one!

I’m still baffled I was snubbed for a Golden Globe nomination for that film!

This is Kristen Wiig in blackface.

R133 Yet that film was Citizen Kane compared to the “Abu Dhabi Do” sequel.

My favorite part of how we are all now supposed to believe that it was her “step father” who died in season 1 is the incredible journalism of Entertainment Weekly. They never say where this information comes from. Just “EW has learned…”. More like someone made this up for a clickbait article.

In terms of how this makes sense in the story, the dad referenced in season 1 was LTW's stepdad, Entertainment Weekly has learned, not her biological dad, who was portrayed in season 2 by Billy Dee Williams.

God, it's all so half-assed.

Though how funny would it have been if LTW tells Charlotte her dad died, and Charlotte replies, "What?? Again???"

I recently watched SATC2 and enjoyed it except the preposterous beginning. It wasn’t as bad as I remember. It was light and breezy.

I have watched SATC2 dozens of times. There is something so irresistibly awful about it that I can’t NOT watch it if it’s on. I think I know every scene verbatim at this point. The absolute cringe of the Liza scene. The “Abu Dhabi Do” moment that makes you want to slap Miranda. And of course my testicles sucking up into my body cavity at the “I am Woman Hear Me Roar” karaoke.

The only genuinely funny scenes are the nanny’s tits in slow motion with all the men gawking at her.

Good times.

⬆️

And I should have been nominated for an Oscar for my delivery of "Lawrence of my labia"....

Yeah the karaoke scene was bad, and like I said the beginning was awful, but the rest of the movie was fun. I thought the “Lawrence of my Labia” line was funny. It’s a silly, fun movie.

The show jumped the shark by having Stanford and Anthony marry. And the show jumped the shark again by having him with the hot Italian. How do you go from having sex with Stanford Blatch to that guy?

I can't with SATC2. Samantha's stupidity and arrogance in a very dangerously conservative religious country was Carrie's "we're not in Kansas anymore" line and gawking like a rube in a stupid hotel lobby. Cringe inducing.

What the show needs is an actual shark.

The only way to watch it.

I’ve often wondered if SATC 2 would be tolerable drunk

SATC2 is my all time favorite hate watch movie. I am with you R139, I know every scene. Shooting that gay wedding chorus scene must have been fabulous . I always wonder how many hooked with each other that night.

The first SATC movie infuriated me. Big just copy and pastes some famous love letters into an email and she takes him back? He didn't even handwrite the damn things.

Of the two, I also have a sick preference for the second over the first. The first was way too maudlin, but I can't turn away when Carrie shifts into an ubercunt over a bit of nighttime TV while she was otherwise occupied. Aside from the I am Woman karaoke scene, I can almost watch the whole mess without wondering why Im subjecting myself to such dreck.

Oh yeah I'm sure her hands were trembling over the death of her stepfather...

R147=They had to hook up with MPK first.

You have to respect Kim Cattrall for realizing that SATC2 was so stupid it was only going to be downhill from there and cashing in her chips.

Listen, these actresses were presented with a deal. They could revive these characters for the easiest paycheck they’ve ever earned. But no one really believed in their bones that this would rise to the level of the original series.

And I can respect the decision to take that deal, especially if you are Cynthia or Kristen, And the former has worked a lot, but hasn’t always earned the big bucks and the latter doesn’t work at all.

I’m a little disappointed in SJP. She carved out an interesting career. And I would’ve liked to have seen her stretch herself and take on something quite different.

What was the point of Aiden’s too small suit apart from the pants splitting?

Not in the least bit funny and didn’t advance the plot at all.

Cynthia Nixon is on the popular Gilded Age She’s doing all right.

R154 Michael Patrick King loves lowbrow humor. There was no plot reason for Charlotte crapping her pants in the first SATC movie either, or Samantha to take a yam bath to make herself hornier in the second one, but he can’t resist that kind of stuff.

[quote] The absolute cringe of the Liza scene.

The whole Anthony/Stanford wedding sequence is officially classified as a homophobic hate crime.

All the schingle ladeeez…

This season could be saved if they just go to another comedy concert.

The amount of money spent on this absolute piece of garbage.

It has failed on every level, including just basic entertainment.

Everyone involved should kill themselves in embarrassment and shame. And still that wouldn't be enough.

If you want to save this dreck then bring back Skipper.

SJP... I would’ve liked to have seen her stretch herself and take on something quite different.

R153 - she did Plaza Suite with Matthew on stage.

R160 totally agree! It could have been so good.

R162 that show was a contraction, not a stretch.

R161, I second Skipper. She transitioned in 2006 and is now a home economics teacher in Poynette, Wisconsin.

Yo, MPK, here's a story idea for you.

Skipper goes into Scout for a drink. Gets talking to Steve. They discover they both survived Miwanda. After a few drinks and a whole lot of talking, they end up in bed.

Patti LuPone arrives tonight!

This show has nothing resembling what worked in satc. Samantha was fun and one of the best things about the original, but nobody wants to see a 70 year old sex addict.

I’d love to see a 70 year old sex addict or even a less sexy addicted 70 year old whose life is changing. They’d be more interesting than Seem a throwing away her career

r167

and she better be from Buffalo like Giuseppe said she was when Anthony accused him of a 90 day situation

I hope Patti does or says something problematic in this episode. It's been over a month since the fallout from the New Yorker interview and the world is going through withdrawal.

Out of my way, plebs! Some of us have to get to work!

What reddit is saying about the Michael Kors shade. And I agree - they insult their own audience.

At least Anthony is getting a storyline that doesn’t involve him using his boyfriend’s penis to sell bread in every episode

I would not be so sure about that…

R174 = Stanford Blatch

That’s funny the fraud are so outraged about their Michael Kors shit being insulted. It’s truly hideous and anyone with taste could find better for an equal or lesser price

Fraus I mean

The same fraus that are their audience? You're missing the point.

I have an idea for a plotline for Charlotte…

And brace yourselves… ep7 just dropped!

No plot hole! Momma is from Buffalo!!

R182 why would that be a plot hole?

could Miranda be anymore annoying with that stupid karaoke machine?

What a good episode

I was hoping Lupone would be a bigger bitch. Seema is even more annoying than ever. I guessed that Bonnie was a shopper not a chippy.

Carrie no longer has rugs and her opening sentence was trite. I wonder if Bitsy will be in every episode. Fun Charlotte is worse than sullen Charlotte.

I hate to say it; I really enjoy this episode. It’s actually funny..

Great episode. A lot of fun.

Surprised at how small Carrie's kitchen is. I'd have thought a previous owner would have updated and expanded it.

The dog cancer/karaoke party plot was good.

The dog cancer plot was stupid. It was yet another disjointed episode with nonsensical plot twists.

How do you have Patti LuPone guest star with a karaoke machine where the whole cast sings except her?

R192 because she wasn’t playing Patti LuPone. Hope that helps

R193 = Scott Whitman

I got three words for you:

LOGAN.

MARSHALL.

GREEN!!!

I was wondering when the polysexual bf would dump Lily.

It’s like the whole cast has forgotten how to act

The scene when Miranda and Carrie were talking after the party was ridiculous. Carrie sounded like a lunatic

I remember when Logan Marshall Green was labeled the “poor man’s Tom Hardy”—well, he’s a lot hotter now than Tom Hardy is these days.

How many times has LuPone guest starred as someone’s bitchy mom? Ugly Betty, 30 Rock, AHS:Coven…

“The woman wondered what she got herself into” is apparently the greatest opening sentence ever written for a novel.

[quote]well, he’s a lot hotter now than Tom Hardy is these days.

R198's fucking HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH.

Logan Marshall-Green has always been much more interesting than Tom Hardy (and I love Tom Hardy.)

Much more going on behind the eyes.

Re-watch “Devil.”

I thought LTW's son's strained karaoke was cute, if not essential.

Very thin writing, but maybe that's okay. It was fun.

The Miranda-Carrie argument/tension at the end felt earned - at least in the context of ALJT.

^^Though Patti Lupone felt wasted.

She didn’t feel wasted. At the end she says she’s staying longer which means we will see more of her most likely.

It's a really good episode, but I wanted to slap the shit out of Cynthia.. Overact much, bitch?

She didn’t overact and it worked for this episode.

LTW’s karaoke son was one of the kids in John Mulaney’s Sack Lunch Bunch. He was a standout—they pretended he was one of the Jacksons. He did a cute number with Annaleigh Ashford.

New York Times recap.

Logan is by far the best male actor in this series, playing the most interesting role.. It took me a while to realize that he was the hot astrobiologist from Prometheus..

And Smitten Seema was cute.

Seema and Adam have great chemistry. Babe…when he asked you to blow…you know you’re gonna blow

I am surprised they portrayed a Queen of Color with long fake nails in an unsympathetic light. That should lead to an anti capitalist backlash.

Adam’s weird energy makes me very nervous— in a good way. He’s very hot.

It’s quite a departure from his other roles.

He has great presence and masculine energy. I wish my roof guy were like that…..

I love that Miranda all the sudden is throwing a party for a 59 year old woman like she’s never seen a birthday party before. It’s as if it’s 1999, and Miranda awoke from a sensory deprivation chamber where she was in stasis and the first thing she did was plan a party!

Rich older women have no fucking imaginations. See...karaoke.

Adam is a non factor.

Other roles? You’ve probably seen him in like 2 things

I recall seeing Logan in an off-Broadway play wherein he played a gay shark in an aquarium and Michael Arden was his love interest. Terrific little play called Swimming In The Shallows.

[quote]I am surprised they portrayed a Queen of Color with long fake nails in an unsympathetic light.

It’s now an unwritten rule of this show that every episode must contain some kind of hormonally modified he/she hybrid from the Island of Dr. Moreau. At least this time they gave it some lines!

Are we supposed to believe that "Gia" has a son that young? TFOH 🤣

I’m over the “nasty, judgmental hag” trope. They need to at least make the hags funny / campy.

R220 especially since it means Giuseppe’s dad would have been in his 80s when he was conceived.

Rock cannot act. I realized I did not miss Lisa at all until she showed up at the party. Then, I groaned.

Yeah that was a weird plot point. Giuseppe Is like 29, so Patti LuPone should be 49-50 by that math and not 76.

Seema was rocking some seriously sexy shoes at the party.

I know everyone keeps saying this, but WTF was that?

And if that's the way Miranda acts when she's getting laid regularly, here's hoping for an early LBD.

Aiden, from hunger

There can’t be any viewers who are actively rooting for Carrie & Aiden to make it as a couple. She’s no prize, but he’s the WORST.

The downstairs neighbor, on the other hand…

Adam pursuing Seema is a bit off. Her face is old and haggard. I know she appears wealthy, but she doesn’t really have a great personality or attitude either. Do young, cute guys really go after women like her?

He’s doing her a solid.

8”

Seema looks old, weathered, puffy and a mess.

So naturally she fucks the hottest guy in the cast!

Frau fantasy 10/10!

It’s going to end in tragedy, R229.

he looked like he had a dad bod last night, so perhaps he isn't that much of a catch, just flirty.

R229 do hippie guys who don’t wear deodorant and own no unstained t-shirts like uptight, older, sophisticated glamour girls who roll up in a Mercedes with a driver?

Oh boy

Tell me you don’t know any Trustafarians without telling me you don’t know any Trustafarians! Ladies like Seema are catnip for guys like this

(Also, Adam is probably 40 or maybe older — he has grey in his beard. It’s not that crazy of an age gap)

Adam does own as successful gardening company, so I don’t believe that he can be classified as a grifter.

R236 oh for sure, he’s not a hobosexual, he’s a hippie with money. But they still like high maintenance ladies

You’re right R224–I don’t know any Trustafarians and have never heard the term until now. Didn’t know it was a thing.

She probably wants a relationship more than Adam.

R239 I don’t know. He broke it off with yoga lady so that he’d have a clear path. He wouldn’t need to do that if he just wanted to bone

Brady is probably so much better looking when nude. Tall, thin, hairless body with a supersized (hopefully) cock hanging with orange pubes. That should have been the scene when Miranda was darting around naked, she should have had Brady tag along and have him sleepwalking for Carey to see. He is over 18 I hope, if not, please disregard all of this. Actually, I calculate him to be 20 by now, since he was 17 in Season 1.

R241 He definitely has a big dick.

Patti Lupone said her Italian husband was 30 years older than her, so her well hung son will tell her the same thing about Anthony. How interesting at the very end she told him she was staying an extra week. I guess we will see her next week making up with Anthony after some big dramatic scene of course.

[quote] The scene when Miranda and Carrie were talking after the party was ridiculous

Carrie was bullying Miranda and Miranda after apologizing a couple times should’ve called Carrie out.

Carrie’s green party dress was beautiful and Amanda looked like a disco alien.

So was Carrie so defensive and angry because she does realize the situation with Aiden sucks, she is losing interest, and she is attracted to the downstairs neighbor?

The opening line was written after Carrie agreed to the five year bullshit. She didn't know what she got herself into. She's able to be more honest via fiction than writing about herself, as in her column. And she's upset Miranda can see that, as Miranda always can (like with Petrovsky in SATC.) I thought that was great and was hoping it would lead to fireworks between them where Mirabda tells her what a loser Auden is but Carrie really did not like knowing that conversation going that way and had to shut it down by being a complete bitch.

I thought that was great. We need more conflict like that. Everyone being okay with this Aiden shit is stupid. He's a giant red flag and no one's saying anything.

Carrie with her hair pulled back is the only time she's looked somewhat pretty since AJLT started.

Carrie’s gray party gown (it looked gray on my TV) looked vintage to me, like something from the ‘50s. I liked Charlotte’s pink party frock.

Patti LuPone’s accent for Gia was cultural appropriation at its worst. Bitch would still have an American accent even after living in Italy for many years. Period.

I fell asleep on the sofa today and woke up to the original SATC playing on my Roku TV. It truly has a mind of its own.

It’s a much better show!

I miss the 90s.

The 90s were peak humanity.

I always watch a bit of early SATC to come down from AJLT. Miranda was so much fun back then.

A 20 year from Buffalo NY moving to Italy and falling in love with a much older man with a prior family and then going on to earn a PhD doesn't seem fantastical at all. Oh, and throw in giving birth to an incredibly handsome son with the biggest schlong in Italy, so much so that old white women weep with emotion when they see it is normal, very normal, especially with this guy falling head over heels with Anthony one of the most obnoxious gays ever.

I wish she'd let some Buffalo into that accent for fun. Buffalo Mozzarella if you will. I love hybrid accents

Seema's disappearance will make a great frau-geared true crime podcast. Too bad Carrie is no longer in that business.

r246 yes. It also made me realize Carrie hasn’t told her friends any of the crazy shit Aidan’s been doing. Refusing to get his son professional treatment even though he’s violently breaking windows, sleeping with his ex. The guy is nuts. In retrospect he wasn’t even very stable back when they first dated…he was a lovebomber and moved way too fast. Carrie needs out of this psychotic dynamic and she’s close to snapping herself.

Once Gia discovers Anthony bottoms for her son, she'll fly back to Italy a happy woman.

Why is Anthony so bitchy and snarly with a HUGE Italian dick to bounce on? He should be on tranquilizers by now. Maybe Charlotte can help with that too.

Carrie's food changes from closeup shot to two shot in the restaurant scene with Patti-Lou Pone.

I'd love to chat with the extras in this farkakte party scene.

I wonder if Gia started as Giuseppe's grandmother, until Patti threw a shitfit about it.

That's the scene I want to see. Some poor little homosexual boy suggesting that they see Patti as a grandmoth-- and the severe bitchslapping before he can even get the word out.

I hope the taxi makeout scene turns into the murder scene in Dressed to Kill.

I hope the kitchen reveal scene is the last time we have to hear about Harry's cancer. He's such a dud of a character.

I was waiting for Giuseppe’s mother to call out Anthony as an insatiable size-queen.

It takes one to know one and a Freudian mother would know.

Is Rock’s fashion inspiration Paula Poundstone?

Is that ugly mole on Anthony’s face growing?

I don’t want the Doctoressa and Anthony reconcile. Btw what is Anthony’s educational level?

Anthony is awful. I side with Giuseppe’s mom.

SJP this season is reminding me of her character from The Family Stone. Overly earnest and humorless.

There is nothing in the world that could convince me that Carrie is writing a brilliant novel.

The argument between Carrie and Miranda in this episode and the episode when Miranda stayed over would lead one to believe these two friends are going to break. Carrie acts as if she doesn't even like her. Miranda is a puddle of apologies. The SATC Miranda wouldn't take this shit from Carrie and would tell her exactly how it is.

R269 Yes, I sense a rift coming. Carrie even gave a slightly disgusted look right after being introduced to Joy and watching her and Miranda smooch. Like so many of us, she probably finds this late-in-life Lesbian version of Miranda exhausting.

Seema's face has been ran thru at a track meet. It's giving weathered alcoholic. She's hard to look at.

The Aidan storyline was a huge mistake.

Harry is cringe. He looks like a Middle Earther. So troll like.

The acting is highly stilted and hard to watch. I find myself fast forwarding thru many cringey scenes and side character stories. I just don't care. Took me 20 min to watch the last one.

We can only hope there's a rift--Charlotte's plot line with the dog woman is clearly going nowhere and the thing with Aidan makes no sense.

Charlotte mostly seems to shout this year.

LTW's husband is more interesting than she is. Harry really has nothing to do, so who knows what happens after the cancer.

Seema as the new Samantha just isn't working. Adam will dump her once the garden is done 9and it should have been done by the last episode).

[quote] LTW's husband is more interesting than she is.

This is true. In fact, the whole moronic thing (abandoned?) where she needs to track down Michelle Obama to be in her little documentary makes more sense if it's her husband who needs to rope Michelle into his campaign somehow, maybe at a major fundraiser. And it even works on a frau level, as loyal wife going above and beyond to land an influential woman for her man. A sort of frau feminism.

Frau feminism, seems a bit antithetical.

Carrie was always a judgmental prude, unless she was the one sneaking around and sleeping with a married man. Then it was TRUE LOVE and totally cool.

[quote]Carrie acts as if she doesn't even like her. Miranda is a puddle of apologies.

Miranda has to walk on eggshells around Carrie now. Who wants a friendship where they constantly have to ask each other, "Are we good?"

I wonder if Cynthia wants to leave the show, and they're laying the groundwork for her exit? I also wonder if Cynthia's politics have caused a rift between them? We saw with Kim Cattrall that SJP can give you the cold shoulder if she has a problem with you.

Miranda is always eating. In the original series too. And Nixon doesn’t eat nicely. She scraps the plate, then her teeth with her fork, and talk with her mouth full of food. Once you you look for it you will never not see it. I didn’t hear one line of dialogue in the kitchen scene. I was too focused on what Cynthia Nixon was doing to that innocent piece of cake.

^People would always post on the imdb message boards about Miranda's eating, talking with her mouth full, etc. You'd think it'd come to the directors' attention by now, but nope.

R250 false. May people develop the accents of those around them with time.

I thought you went to Columbia….

R252 allegedly went to Columbia but doesn’t understand a 60 year old woman not being “as fun” as she was at 32.

AJLT set decorator and production designer gives Architectural Digest a tour of Carrie's fully decorated (!) house.

POTENTIAL SPOILER:

I did not see the precious 1stDibs table from Aidan. Hmm.

Logan Marshall-Green is a stunning man, but his looks and demeanor are a bit austere. Tom Hardy has grown more rugged with age, and he definitely throws the better fuck.

on one(of the MANY) Golden girls threads, It came up that all but Betty smoked... how about the SATC 4? I'm assumed SJP really smoked but what about the others? I'm pretty sure that CHris Noth did and I'm assuming Willie did also.

LM-G appeared to have quite a gut on him in the last epsiode.

The queen from Wardrobe who threw Cynthia Nixon into that silver one-shouldered jumpsuit for the party scene must absolutely despise her.

Yeah, that jumpsuit was not working.

I am starting to be enraged by Carrie’s refusal to furnish her house. She works from home— doesn’t she want it to be functional?

Are we supposed to infer something from this weird behavior? If not, then what’s the point of having an ongoing issue with her not furnishing the house?

L M-G has Olmec Head.

The Set Decorator in the R281 video has that annoying vocal fry.

I know AJLT will get no Emmys. But Jenifer Lewis deserves a nomination and a win for guest in a comedy. Crushing LTW emotionally about who knows her second dad better, taunting her with Michael Kors, “opening act” in the funeral with MAGIC TO DO …. where is the series with this character?

R278-There's a director on set?

LTW’s son hogging the karaoke is the best kid of the series.

So LTW’s husband is running for Comptroller.

This is a recycled plot from SATC. Remember Carrie’s bf Bill Kelly (AKA Roger Sterling) running for Comptroller?

I have been waiting for his name to come up

Is LTW’s husband going to pee on LTW?

Or Duncan?

The guy who looks like central casting for a Diddy freak off needs to have a full-frontal sex scene with LTW and she can leave her wig on the bedpost. Either that or be a guest at Carrie's house and sleepwalk in the nude. Something has to cancel out the Miranda naked turkey trot from 2 weeks ago.

Miranda has a bigger FUPA than Angela Lansbury, as evidenced by her nude scene.

You missed your chance in the another thread, r297—FUPA Barbie!

Full frontal scene with LTW's HUSBAND, R296.

Note to the wise: Comptroller is pronounced as controller.

In what frau's demented reality would that gardener be into that old hag?

Truly they missed a once in a lifetime opportunity to recreate this:

Is this also from Evita, R302?

Parker was on WWHL last night and she looked fantastic. If she gained some weight it looks great on her. She's too scrawny on AJLT.

Is Carrie still gobbling Tums?

That karaoke machine better make a come back. Maybe have Wyatt come and stay and he can sing Morrissey songs then break some of the antique windows.

R304 She looked like she’s gotten some fillers.

She looks 1000x better in the R281 video than she does on her show.

SJP has at times looked really good on this show. She’s looked like a well aged Carrie should. Then at times she looks 81 with her hair pulled back. She definitely looks better this season overall. Maybe she finally got some work done?

SJP looks good because she didn’t ruin her face like Kristin did (who used to be the prettiest in the original run)

I think SJP looked very pretty for much of SATC’s run. *ducks tomatoes* Seriously.

Both Kim and Kristen were both very pretty, prettier, with Kim being all around gorgeous. Kim aged very well.

Was I pretty too?

Miranda was pretty in a Puck-ish way in the first seasons of SATC.

I feel awful saying this, but I found Miranda difficult to look at in SATC. She was relentlessly unattractive. New teeth and slightly longer hair would have made a world of difference.

Then there’s the bad 90s makeup and fashion…

The whole world seemed to know that Cynthia was a dyke before she did.

I had to really suspend my disbelief that Seema wouldn't have immediately bolted from Lashes and Lattes as soon as she saw those the freaky nails. Seema being poor is the second most frustrating story this season. And it could have been plausible with one line of dialogue: "Fuck, if I weren't getting over a big loss on an investment..." Instead, we're supposed to believe one of NYC's top real estate brokers is broke.

Harry has a personal shopper. Why didn't he have her pick him out jeans a few episode back, instead of having a totally disinterested Carrie go with him?

Carrie's weird wording in her one-sided fight with Miranda was annoying. "Aiden and I are 20 years in." Kind of like how she said, "Since I'm 50" during the yogurt brawl.

I have to give this shit show props for three genuine funny moments: LTW on her son's karaoke: "Oh, God, I'm going to have to send apology notes." Charlotte's work friend: "I don't buy gifts for people who own in Manhattan." And Miranda telling Harry, "When the unthinkable happens, Charlotte will be devastated, but we'll be there for her!" and walking away.

Yes,👏 it was a pretty funny episode.

Seema should meet Henry Louis Gates and find out she is the lost great-granddaughter of Ghandi so she plan a girls trip to Mumbai with the ding-a-ling sisters.

I’m kinda, sorta re-watching the original show. Aiden is so fucking annoying. Carrie is more annoying, of course. But Aiden has always been such an oaf.

The episode at the cabin when he’s banging a basketball on the side of the cabin— I wanted to strangle him.

Of course Carrie is a nutjob too, inviting Big to the cabin. WTF?!

This has to be the dumbest show of all time, and I’m including Small Wonder in that.

Also, I’ll add that in retrospect I’m a little shocked they even tried to do the reboot without Samantha. It’s not remotely the same show without her. I guess for some, that was the point— they wanted the new show to be quite separate. But then why bring back The Oaf? (Aiden.)

Bring back Skipper!!!

Skipper and Steve shipper!

Can you please start a Bring Back Skipper petition?

They should bring back the ugly millionaire’s ass Samantha refused to fuck. The one who financed Donald Trump. He must be 100 now.

Aidan's cabin where Carrie caterwauled and shrieked over a squirrel in the window then at her new townhome where's she's just fine with the little squirrel in her garden.. Also, Carrie who never cared for animals and now has a cat. Doesn't mesh. Still waiting for the episode where her cat goes missing or ends up dead.

Bring back Amalita Amalfi! I'd watch an entire show about her.

Seema and Lisa Todd Wexler are a distraction. Carrie meets Seema as her broker and becomes besties just like that. Most NYC brokers, especially top ones don't have as much free time as Seema does and almost never forms a close friendship with a client like they have. Seems too over-produced. LTW and Charlotte have ZIP in common besides kids in school together and that friendship also seems contrived.

Meanwhile both of Miranda’s emotional support POC’s got axed and now she is dating a British bitch!

I love the actress who is playing the “British bitch” (what an odd way to describe a totally NON-bitchy character. Did that make you feel good to type, baby?)

She’s excellent in a small role in Can You Ever Forgive Me? with Melissa McCarthy.

R329: People with kids regularly develop friendships with other parents, including people they might otherwise not get to know. The lack of chemistry between the actresses and teh bad writing are another matter. Seema gets likable or credible with every episode.

I love Joy. She's been such a pleasant surprise this season. Maybe the best part of it.

Is LTW supposed to be based on Susan Fales Hill?

I like Joy too. I like her so much that I hope she comes to her senses and dumps Miranda.

She's played two lesbians. Is she in real life?

[quote]The queen from Wardrobe who threw Cynthia Nixon into that silver one-shouldered jumpsuit for the party scene must absolutely despise her.

You didn't appreciate seeing Cynthia's fat silver FUPA on display?

As one of the top luxury realtors in NYC, Seema's character would be worth at least $10-15 million, especially at her age. The storyline of her suddenly being poor is silly. The other top agencies in town would be fighting over her, and she would have no trouble getting a loan to start her own agency.

Right R338 because she would have a client list and connections.

Are they setting this up for uber-rich Carrie to lend her the money to Seema to start up her own firm? It would be a throwback to the original series when Charlotte gave Carrie her engagement ring from Trey to put a down payment on her apartment.

Seems might be asset rich but not very liquid. That can make you feel poor pretty quickly.

There are a few people I would love to do a cameo like Susan Sharon showing up(she should be on more), Amalita, Trey, Skipper... who else?

The sweet guy she met at the Bethesda Fountain and whose box she was trying to open.

The hot Trainer of Samantha’s with the bolt shave….

The guy from Miranda's weight watchers group and Magda

You just know Skipper had a huge dick.

Omg tonight’s was the worst one yet.

Kristin’s vertigo acting was like a bad Christopher Guest movie

Cynthia eating a cookie like her dentures don’t fit

For fuck's sake, just drink the gin!

R346: Logan Marshall Green's ass makes up for all that.

Charlotte fell on the bed. What next, Miranda gets shitfaced and wears a lampshade on her head?

[quote]For fuck's sake, just drink the gin!

It might actually make her interesting, R347.

And just like that...I hate this thing.

Of all the actors they matched Sarah Jessica Parker with on SATC, the only one with whom she shared a palpable chemistry was David Duchovny, whose character was a resident at a mental facility. Bring him back into Carrie’s life!

Aidan is a boring, childish oaf. And he’s played by one of the most vacuous actors on TV.

SJP still doing bed scenes with her bra on and Seema’s sex scene was yuck.

I really think something happens on this set where good actors lose their talent quickly.

Even Patti LuPone, who is usually a good actress is terrible in this.

Is it the writing? Directing? Party city wigs?

R354 Patti sucks. She overacts in everything.

oh dear

Terrible episode. They tried to create parallel and related storylines, but they all seemed to fall flat. The whole Aidan and his kid arc seems really uninteresting and poorly fleshed out.

You cunts make this shit show fun to watch. Cheers bitches!

How many times does Aidan say Wyatt each episode?

Most kids live with their mother or share time between both. What a dumb fucking story line

The whole story line with Lisa’s coworker is so not sexy. Both actors are good-looking, but they have zero chemistry

Miranda’s trying not to drink reminds me of her story with eating cake back in the original series

The writers are L A Z Y

New York Times recap.

Did Cynthia Nixon volunteer to do that nude scene? She has enough clout to say no. Kristen Davis would never.

Did Miranda always smack her food?

Unfortunately the actress who played Magda died a while back.

After tonight’s episode, I watched a few episodes of the original series. Season 3. They all looked good that season. Kristin Davis particularly looked so beautiful. I think back in the day I didn’t think much about her looks, but when I watch old episodes now, I’m taken with how stunning she is.

I’m watching the episodes where Carrie’s dating dumbass Aiden but also fucking Big on the side, Miranda’s breaking up with Steve, Charlotte’s marrying Trey, and Samantha…has an embarrassing, different plot each week (funky spunk, slut shaming neighbors,Viagra addiction, menopause scare,AIDS test).

One of you bitches called it a couple of weeks ago: no deodorant for Adam!

Adam’s energy is so inappropriately intense at times. It’s intriguing, but almost sinister! He’s making some interesting choices as an actor. Delightfully weird.

Is anyone tuning into this for a reason other than hate-watching?

Does this show give anyone actual enjoyment re: storylines or characters?

I like the Adam scenes, and I like the Charlotte/Harry scenes. I like Joy.

Everything else is annoying. ESPECIALLY. Carrie and Aiden.

Appendix cancer is rising among the youngs.

It's essentially colon cancer. (Appendicitis is caused by shit getting trapped in the appendix and causing inflammation.)

Whatever she has, I can't imagine being Princess of Wales — your whole job is to be a public service announcement, and the pay is that you live in great luxury — and playing coy instead of trying to save some lives.

I wish Adam was a gay gardener.

To enhance your enjoyment of And Just Like That, I highly recommend watching the original Sex and the City series in parallel. The contrast is striking,, the original is just so much better.

Enjoyment of hate watching

R371: Last night's episode was followed by a random SATC episode. HBO knows that this is a creative turkey.

Sinister indeed, R366. In real life, he would murder Seema. He is coming on way too strongly.

Well, there is always hope.

Oh God, that Harlequin costume with the Elephant Brooch…

What in the Big Top WAS that, r375? I try not to nitpick because I'm surprisingly enjoying this season after being let down by the previous two but that was not fashion. It was not "a look." It was a costume and it looked ridiculous.

Yeah it was not edgy, it was clownish and ridiculous. Not Carrie Washington Square Hat fun-ridiculous, juts degrading.

Since LTW is a beautiful woman, they have to dress her in hideous clothes that never flatter or show her figure in order for Carrie to always seem like the best looking.

The only way that Carrie could seem to be the best looking is if you are blind.

Did Aidan ever say what's in all those bags? Seems like he avoided the question every time Carrie mentioned it. Did he go crazy and kill Wyatt?

One of the Reddit subs was talking about how manipulative and controlling Aidan is being. I didn't click to it but they are mostly women.

Nicole Ari Parker is an extremely pretty lady but an absolutely awful actress. Just utterly clueless in every single scene. Her material isn’t helping, either.

Aiden has always been a controlling, petulant little bitch. I hate being around smokers too, but in the original series he felt ENTITLED to monitor Carrie’s smoking like 5 seconds after meeting her. That was the biggest red flag.

Are we supposed to assume the sex with Aiden is what keeps Carrie around?

Because she and Aiden have NOTHING in common. He’s always been dumb-redneck-adjacent. Now, he’s got a fucked up family to deal with and he’s apparently a shitty parent on top of everything else.

Apparently, they cut some scenes and this latest episode was the shortest one yet. Duncan had scenes and they were cut for some reason.

Aidan is not good bf material. Any guy with that much baggage and family drama would have any mature, together woman running. I think Carrie is dating him out of guilt.

Carrie is wasting years of her life she could be spending with a similarly wealthy and sophisticated man doing rich, worldly people things.

This should be a nice phase of her life. No money worries, no pregnancy worries, she knows what she likes, she has an interesting artistic life.

Her downstairs tenant is a better match. (I guess that’s the point, but who knows where that’s heading.)

Aiden has kind of a nice body though. Looked good in bed.

This episode of And Just Like That, brought to you by Fever Tree. Fever Tree - for the best in tonics, soda, and all mixers to make your cocktails sing."

Not to mention to Pepperidge Farm and Ungava gin. But I think we saw Fever Tree twice.

I really don't mind product placement, but I still find it amusing.

Pretty thin episode, IMO. Obviously a placeholder/setup for the last episodes of the season. I hate that Aiden is back.

Aidan or Duncan, Aidan or Duncan, Aidan or Duncan... I see she's back to her old threesome whoring ways.

[quote]Logan Marshall Green's ass makes up for all that.

Link, please!

What’s up with reviving Charlotte’s virtigo all of a sudden? Is she preganant? Does she turn out to have a brain tumor?

That would be ironic since she reacted so dramatically and emotionally to her husband’s (apparently) manageable prostate camcer.

I'm really hoping Miranda becomes an alcoholic again.

It’s weird — I only hate watch the show. I think it’s terrible. and yet I look forward to it every week. I get excited when I remember it’s on.

No one on this show seems to be aware of grocery delivery.

I’m very curious what is in his suitcases as well, it was brought up twice

Wyatt’s body r396

Miranda was a very unconvincing alcoholic. She was far from the depths you sink to as a real addict.

[quote]Carrie is wasting years of her life she could be spending with a similarly wealthy and sophisticated man doing rich, worldly people things.

Which, I’m guessing this is exactly what Samantha is doing in London - living her best life.

Odd, isn’t it R394? I am relieving my New York City youth by re-watching the old Sex and the City episodes and at the same time I’m hooked to that crap fest called And Just Like That.

[quote]What’s up with reviving Charlotte’s virtigo all of a sudden? Is she preganant? Does she turn out to have a brain tumor?

No, it was just a setup to get her to fall on the used condom in the bed. Hilarity ensued (in the writers’ minds).

I saw that fall coming the second they filled that condom.

Bad episode. Unfunny. Charlotte doing physical comedy because they don’t know what else to do with her.

When Seema fucks Bad Bunny then I will be interested again. Right now it is a preposterous snoozefest.

Why is Seema fucking in her bra?

Because, R405 she has areolae the size of bologna slices. Plus, them seventy year old tittays would have just drooped down her side like a Chianti Candle next to a blazing fire.

She must have a no frontal nudity clause in her contract.

Wasn’t she nude back in Mississippi Masala? Or do you mean she has a no nudity clause just for this show?

“ She must have a no frontal nudity clause in her contract.”

And we demanded it!

Is the gardener some rich trust fund brat? Why did he mention his mother changing his last name? Seema seemed to know the name very well.

R410 Yeah, obvious plot line coming. Seema worries about money (unrealistically, a top NYC realtor with no $) and the smelly gardener a scion of an oligarch family who has a problematic relationship with mommy. Ah, Mama Seema can heal that wound.

If Charlotte’s virtigo was just a setup for that sight gag I’m not sure why they had her practically fainting in her entry hall later in the episode.

[quote]Is the gardener some rich trust fund brat?

If he turns out to be rich, my head will explode.

Too much perfection!

When Charlotte got home and was bent over in the hallway of her condo I expected her to say “Harry, I think you peed over here! “

Condo?

yup, r401. I said a silent thank you in that first scene when Charlotte managed not to fall on the jizz filled condom. But I knew. I prayed that my knowing would not come to fruition. But yet, I knew and felt the sadness growing inside until it happened.

The extras in the art gallery are hilarious. The outfits are fucking ridiculous but even better is the stilted way they move around. Definitely general public from a very open casting call rather than professional extras.

Patti Lupone really lowered herself taking the role of Anthony's rival. OMG. Just pathetic and I love Ms. P. She is better off feuding with lesser stars of the stage or the AJLT cast.

This is where SJP’s commitment to her celeb pals is problematic.

Because I can’t see any other leading lady (without whom they couldn’t do the show) staying quiet about the quality of the scripts. MPK needed to go a while ago.

She could talk to Casey Bloys at HBO and get him to make a change. She won’t. She loves MPK, even while he’s ruining her legacy and reducing her to a laughingstock.

She loves MPK because he will always make sure she is saint Carrie with multiple guys falling all over themselves just to be near her.

I don't remember Charlotte having vertigo.

R421 there are a ton of fat fraus in the AJLT subreddit whose Big Bertha panties are in a wad because they feel that episode is making fun of people with vertigo.

There is no way she is unaware of the increase in stories in major news outlets about how people are hate watching the show because of how bad it is.

She has a pretty enormous ego. It’s hard to believe this is not affecting her.

On the other hand, she seems to live in a bubble. I mean, of course she lives in a bubble. She has people like Andy Cohen kissing her ass every day. And she seems a bit delusional.

I was referring to SJP. ^^^^

Those salt crystal "natural deodorants" DO NOT WORK. Gross..

"It’s weird — I only hate watch the show. I think it’s terrible. and yet I look forward to it every week. I get excited when I remember it’s on."

HBO doesn't care why you watch it. You watch it. And don't even think you actually hate it. People don't engage with stuff they truly hate if they can avoid it.

Where did I say HBO does care, R426?

And yes, I do indeed think the show is garbage on a writing and often acting level. Garbage. They have these women in a way that they never would. They have missed plot lines that would actually be compelling for stupid shit. Seema and LTW are pointless. I do think it’s a really low quality show by most every regard. And yet I look forward to putting it in my eyehole and unpacking it like a sociological experiment.

Oddly aggressive comment on your part. MPK, that you hack?

The whole show would be complete forgettable on its own. It only works because so many have loved and internalized SATC and keep rewatching it.

Wyatt moved back with mom full time and Aiden’s upset about it. Why question a ‘Get out of jail free’ card when it lands in your lap?!

Because he's Aiden and he has to be folksy and Mr.-Do-Right about it.

I never cared for the original SATC and only watched a season that a female friend made me watch, but I'm watching this train wreck of a show every week.

Worse and worse.

This needs Carrie’s voice overs.

The show must be a FORTUNE to produce. The salaries and the locations and clothes and parties.... For all that is spent, very little substance worth remembering after each episode is over. Nothing classic about this show, unlike the original.

It makes the original seem like high art

The clothing, accessories and overall vibe of the original used to spark instant trends. In this, everything is ugly or over the top.

Or under the big top.

As soon as LTW walked in wearing that circus tent, I expected her brooch to spin—I thought it was a bow tie.

I thought the jacket looked FABULOUS!

Because R429 , how is Wyatt ever going to improve if he isn't around to paint Aiden's house?

Aiden's enmeshment with Wyatt is not at all healthy. A plot point that doesn't make sense is how Carrie enables this. It's so obvious that Aiden isn't an fully integrated adult. The only explanation is that he has an enormous penis, the size of a bloated calabash, which enables her to have an old fashioned vaginal orgasm.

R441

It is established. He has huge balls.

They should have killed off Harry before the show leaving all the wome single again. The kids remain off screen or off at boarding school. They should have focused on the lives of well to do middle-aged women tackling dating. Why on earth would a newly widowed rich woman jump into a relationship so fast? They could have them on a cruise beating off old leches, jetting off to the islands, Paris fashion week where they bump into the russian....anything but these boring plot lines.

I’d like to see Miranda be a bit more like drunk Allison. Now that was an amazing storyline.

But can she type like a motherfucker?

They try to put every character in every episode which they didn’t do in SATC. I’m talking secondary characters. If they’re going to do that they need to expand the minutes.

They definitely need Carrie voice overs. That is one thing that would improve the flow and show.

Have I mentioned they should bring back Skipper?

Why not have AOC sneak in a cameo. The cast would be thrilled!

Have we mentioned the “brilliant” novel Carried is writing? It’s like the musings of a kindergartner.

I kindergartner who has magic cigarettes and when she lights up she can go anywhere she wants?

^^ "A" not "I"

I’d have done Skipper. Decent body, probably a nice big dick.

He’d break up with you while he was in you

This is the lamest show evah.

R447 Skipper was last in S&TC in 1999 and the actor hasn't worked since 2017. It might be time to let it go.

Skipper revival!

Skipper was an ugly fuck and what he did to his girlfriend was enough to get him cancelled from here to hell

Bitter Frau R457 has never known the touch of a man.

And never will.

Skipper was great as the Geico Caveman. They should bring him back as a homeless guy who murders Miranda.

They should bring Big back from the dead and immediately kill him off, like they did with LTW’s father.

R449 - agree. I'm having a hard time believing that someone like Duncan would be that effusively positive about Carrie's bodice-ripper romance novel. I mean, COME ON. At least bring in some element of reality to this show!

R461 Carrie also has to be the best, most brilliant writer because she is flawless (according to the show).

Why do I get the sinking feeling that Carrie's historical novel will become a cross-over for The Gilded Age?

Why do I get the sinking feeling you don’t know the timeline for historical events.

Maybe they can have Miranda murder a homeless Skipper!

They should just go all the way into intentional camp. Like John Waters with Divine… except SJP will occupy that role…

Has no one entertained the idea that Duncan is over-praising Carrie’s work-in-progress so he can fuck her? I’m sure hesized Aidan up and found him wanting. Duncan is a man, not an overgrown boy, unattached, serious about his work but evidently pleasure-loving.

I’d have made a move instantly.

Skipper was in a Oscar Meyer bologna commercial a few years ago as the Dad, looks ok. Not as rich as Ms. Nixon I would say.

Bring Skipper back!

Maybe with some Oscar Meyer product placement.

Skipper was a drip. No appeal except for being “nice”.

[quote] Maybe they can have Miranda murder a homeless Skipper!

That would be bad, but NOT as bad as tossing out my goddamn gin. Bitch!

R467 - yes, I thought that immediately, but I don't think he'd be quite that over-the-top enthusiastic about her writing especially considering how unpleasant their first few interactions were. It's a very clunky (and desperation-laced) way for him to try to get her into his bed. I also think he'd be more inclined to go after someone like Seema, or, Samantha if she had a role in this show. Carrie just ain't all that, you know?

I heard a rumor that the season ends with Aidan assaulting Carrie and Dunk breaking up the fight.

"You never abuse a horse!"

Skipper looks like a hobo more than ever. Miranda has been touched by a hobo

“ I heard a rumor that the season ends with Aidan assaulting Carrie”

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

I could totally see Aiden committing an assault. Freak Wyatt gets it from somewhere

If he gets physical with Carrie that would be the only interesting thing that happened this entire season.

Skipper won an Oscar for his Mayer weiner?

Slap her, Aidan!

Has she ever been slapped? She did slap Big.

It’s an interesting phenomenon when people “rediscover” old loves in middle age. It’s a bit creepy, as if the people are still stuck at a particular age.

You usually see it with people who don’t have a lot of options, though.

I guess Aiden might have been a fan favorite, though god knows why. But I can’t imagine why they brought him back.

R481

She was accidentally slapped by the Russian in Paris

It is interesting, R482. I know a few people who left their spouses of decades for an old flame from high school. Something seems very off about that.

Same r484 it’s very creepy

“She was accidentally slapped by the Russian in Paris”

Accident? Nyet!

All I wanna know is if Lily had an actual orgasm, while losing her virginity. Oh, & bonus points for demanding condoms! I demanded condoms when I lost my virginity, so I relate.

Aiden still looks absolutely GOOD. I’m not quite sure why he’d want to reengage with Carrie??? BAD idea, as all she does is break his heart.

Che’s character has turned into that of a DARK lesbian. Glad Miranda got away.

I genuinely like SJP. I know we makes fun of her here, but she’s a tiny powerhouse, & I admire her for how well she’s done. ❤️

I rewatched season 3 of SATC. Aiden was as boring then as he is now. And she was highly neurotic already.

And I like SJP too.

I’m almost done with a SATC season 3 rewatch. Kyle MacLachlan is so hot in this—even though his character was a putz. SJP was really great that season—drama wise, but also comically. Just watched the one where Carrie is dating the comic book guy who lives with his parents in the awesome apartment with a terrace. SJP is so funny and charming in that episode, which was written by gay Allan Heinberg, who also wrote Wonder Woman comics for a while.

Bring back Dr. Robert (Blair Underwood), as a late-in-life gay. And have him hook up with LTW's husband.

Ugh one late in life gay/lesbian is enough. How about expanding a bit in Diego, the little poly dancer rascal? Who could he hook up with (legally)?

I think Aiden made up or exaggerated the story about his son as a pretence to get Carrie to stay. Not that I buy there relationship at all.

So this week if was Charlotte and Miranda's turn to be humiliated and/or reminded how bad their lives are compared to Carrie.

Exactly, R492. Nobody can ever be better in any way than perfect Carrie and her fabulousness.

Hollywood Reporter take.

If they cancel it, they would put all those VFX artists who digital de-age the actresses out of work.

R315

Hey, I”m still here, still clueless.

Chick on chick sounds hot, tho. Why didn’t Miranda experiment in the 90s, like everyone else did?

[quote] So this week if was Charlotte and Miranda's turn to be humiliated and/or reminded how bad their lives are compared to Carrie.

SJP, “Kristen, since our elder whore will still only interact with me via AI SMS suggestions, you’re going to have to take on some spunk, for the team, gloves off, as it where.

Cynthia we’ve gotten notes, you’ve been relegated to negative 1st base sex only; bra-on at all times. Toodles, I’m off to frott with the two ‘hot’ men who want me." #winning

Oy Gevalt.

The anticipation over a new episode motivated me to get out of bed this morning. I'm concerned about what this says about my life.

No laughs in that episode. The scene with Anthony was painful. Charlotte has nothing but slapstick in her few minutes of screen time.

Patti Lupone is a terrible actress!

This was truly awful.

This was not worth waking up for.

As a straight Englishman, Duncan would immediately associate Chippendale with the furniture maker and he would not make such a lame and nasty joke. Horrible writing.

“ This was not worth waking up for.”

This wasn’t surviving cancer for!

Patti’s Italian was dreadful.

Carrie’s dress with the pasties. UGH.

Another horrible episode. The various story lines seem like dead ends despite seeking some sort of conflict.

R504 Her Buffalo accent was even worse.

Why did they decide to turn Duncan into an asshole?

Completely unnecessary.

What dress had pasties? I was mesmerized by her shepherdess dress. All it needed was that big shower cap from earlier this season.

I'm 5 episodes behind and reading the comments here doesn't make me anxious to catch up. Has Steve made an appearance yet?

At least we no longer have to see Aiden’s huge, elongated head with his lip less face.

Thank God, hopefully we never see Aiden again.

How was Duncan an asshole?

Maybe I'm just relieved that it's over - again - with Aiden but I thought that the scenes with him were well written.

Where did the storyline with LTW's husband - Herbert? Henry? whatever - come from? Was I supposed to know that he's been fighting with his weight? Did I miss this?

Charlotte doing a faceplant went nowhere.

Otherwise It wasn't such a bad episode.

Jesus, I'm only two minutes in - Carrie, Aiden, and Duncan talking and Aiden is insufferable. Ugh.

"Those [Nutter Butters] are mine, Dad. I'M not fat."

Yay! Aiden-Carrie are over.

She really likes carrying the bottom of her flouncy skirts and dresses, doesn't she.

Ugh.

Dump the Oaf already.

New York Times recap.

I personally liked the episode.

It wasn’t meant to be funny. It was a breakup.

I liked the episode, too. However, it still showcases that the original problems she had with Aiden all along were still there and never went away. She should have broken up with him the moment she found out he cheated on her with his ex wife. Then he acts like an overprotective, needy jerk after leaving her all on her own for months? Complains about her neighbor’s pipe smoke smell that wasn’t hers and tells her to shower in her own house? Oh hell no. He would have been kicked to the curb so fast his head would spin. Why bother meeting him for lunch? It’s OVER! Get your keys, change your locks, change your phone number!

I have always hated Aiden for being a whiny, insufferable, wimpy, smarmy, controlling bitch and I hate him even more now!

R512 he behaved like a smug Datalounger to Aiden. That Chippendale remark was beneath him.

I feel like all the actors have forgotten how to act

sJP is a decent actor and she’s so terrible in this series

I thought she was pretty good in the angry fight scenes with Aiden.

Patti and “Char” on the other hand…

No--Carrie just seems entitled. The whole set-up with Aidan seemed both ridiculous and doomed. Will they recycle the Russian or even Berger, next. No imagination these writers.

I actually liked Anthony in the confrontation from the mother Lupone just seemed to be chewing scenery without creating real drama. Poor Guiseppe, though.

I thought Miranda already confessed her alcoholism to the Brit. Otherwise, the remaining plot lines were stupid. LTW's husband doesn't look bad, the whole Charlotte/Harry plot line seems to sputter and really, do we care about Seema at all , by this point. I certainly don't.

On SATC, Stanford had a beautiful house in the Hamptons. There was some obvious money there. Anthony was married to Stanford and he left him all his worldly goods. So, why does Anthony live in a shitty apartment?

Carrie is the only person living in NYC who constantly wears flowing dresses that drag on the ground so she has to constantly hold them up to make her way down the street. Who dresses like that on a day to day basis?

Charlotte couldn't get out of bed, yet there she was in the restaurant, standing up to kiss Carrie.

I don't care if Seema wears deodorant or not. Possibly the dumbest storyline in human history.

This show has zero continuity.

We were promised up thread that this episode would feature Aiden beating Carrie until stiff white peaks formed.

So no 👋🏻?

R508: Who isn't an asshole on this trainwreck of a show?

Good news - Steve will be in next week's episode!

Aiden made Carrie look old.

One of the rare episodes in which Carrie says the term "fuck."

Make no mistake you haven't seen the last of Paul Bunyan. She can't beat a dead horse.

Does Carrie get angry here? SJP is quite good at that with Carrie.

The original was a serio-comedy. Yes, it was silly and often ridiculous but there were actual moments that went beyond the glossy surface and revealed something about female friendships, relationships, and insecurities. THe reboot is just slapstick and, often, banal and not very funny.

I couldn’t figure out Patti Lupone’s character. She slipped in and out of accents and her behavior made no sense.

That works in a Carol Burnett sketch….but seems out of place here.

Then again, Cynthia is also playing Howdy Doody every week, so anything goes at this point!

What was the point of bringing Aidan back in the first place?

R535: It provided filler where everything else is silly little story arcs and peripheral characters.

Bobby Lee has some thoughts.

“ Number one, I don’t even know why they asked,” said Lee of his casting. “And I was super scared to do it. Because it wasn’t my brand, really. You know what I mean? But I did it. I walked through the fear.”

To walk through fear is to lead by example. He was brave and must be commended for that.

R537. I forgot Bobby Lee was on the show. Wasn't he part of Carrie's podcast which was dropped. Maybe that's why he's no longer on the show.

R536: They brought him back to prove once and for all that he and Carrie will never work.

Kim Cattrall was right to drop this hot potato.

She is still a good actress but I fear even SHE would have started to stink on this.

It’s like everyone walks into a chamber of some kind where their good acting is removed and replaced by nonsensical choices!

I thought the break up scenes (Carrie incrementally getting more annoyed and depressed by Aidan's awkward pettiness) were well written and staged. The moment she climbs into bed, thanking him for his understanding, and his snarky, passive aggressive huffing "you smell like smoke, go take a bath"... a line crossed, no going back, you break it you bought it.

The writing, so uneven, so TV sitcom, was good in these scenes, and SJP's acting was excellent, I though. She's an older woman now, and she has no patience. What was selfishness when she was younger now plays like strength, focus.

Go wash your crotch. It smells like smoke and desperation.

Bring back Jack Berger. Ron Livingston's wife is on the show as Aiden's ex so why not.

Don’t bring back anyone else—especially from Carrie’s past

I agree on not bringing anyone else back. When in life does anyone really come back into your life multiple times?

Usually people from the past are best left there!

But...some of us want Skipper back!

I really think Skipper would work best as a homeless street guy.

Patti blew any chance whatsoever of landing a plum role as Mrs. Fish's thin sister on The Gilded Age. Her acting is over the top, like she is playing for the rafters.

R525, Stanford spent all his money on that ridiculous gay wedding in SATC2. Lizsha was not cheap.

r525

Did he own it? I thought he just rented it for the summer

And one of the gay chorus members suited Anthony for sexual harassment, which needed to be settled quietly.

Stannie came from a wealthy family. His rich grandmother was featured in a season 1 episode.

Anthony’s sexual harassment certainly suited me!

R553: Bu he wasn't going to inherit from her because he was a "fruit", as she put it.

I wholeheartedly agree with you, r542.

That was such an aggressive comment re: the smoking. It also highlighted for me how little Aiden had grown as a person since SATC and how much she had gained in emotional strength and decisiveness. I'm sure losing your spouse suddenly would accelerate that feeling of life is too short.

I miss that quality of writing that was intrinsic to SATC.

I also largely fast forward through all plot lines with the exception of Miranda and Carrie.

Lupone was a disaster, I'm so embarrassed for her.

She disinherited him, R553. Because, you know, he is a FRUIT!

It wouls be cool if Steve started dating Debbie again(I liked her)

If my partner spent an evening in a pipe smoke filled room and then crawled into bed I would also kick him out in a millisecond.

Agreed, R559. Frankly, I would never crawl into bed stinking of smoke. I always shower before bed.

It's about time this farkakte show had a decent episode. Maybe they need to keep them under 30 minutes from now on. That way they can't put all the bullshit subplots in, and nobody needed the deodorant subplot.

I agree about a smokey partner in bed, but the way Aiden was a dick about it - he clearly just wanted to put up a wall and impose himself on Carrie, rather than just asking politely. I don't believe at all that it was just about the smoke.

Did anyone else think Seema was gonna take a header down the stairs to the john?

The Pelican is the old Park Avenue Cafe on 63rd and Park.

No one mentioning DL fave Andy Cohen as the shoe department shopbottom?

And by DL fave I mean LOATHED.

Patti was terrible.

I like Seema more and more in the separate show she has going on.

We got a Carrie voice over this episode. Was this the first, or did I just never notice?

r567

they all seem to be in different shows

Andi Coen’s scene must have been filmed before he got on the Ozempic.

R570 - Nene Leakes

Andy is such a whore for attention; you don’t see me doing this sort of thing.

[quote]Andi Coen’

CUNT

The editing of LTW’s documentary is still fucking going on. JFC, Zach Snyder edits faster than this bitch.

I TOLD YOU BITCHES Aiden’s smoking fixation was a red flag going back to the original series.

Lo and behold, his control freak comments (about the smoke smell) were the last straw for Carrie.

I wonder if the writers meant for this to be a call back.

Seema has nothing in common with any of these ladies. After being declined for a small business loan, she somehow was able to use her savings to rent an amazing place and have a gay Londoner as her personal step and fetch assistant running for sushi on command. What commercial landlord would rent to Seema if the banks don't feel she is credit worthy? They do the same financial review and if a bank would say no, they would too. Maybe LTW can meet Michelle Obama and refer her to Seema to help her find a bachelorette pad in Tribeca. That's how unrealistic this show is.

R575-How darling that you think the writers have an actual plan.

Is the Pelican real? What was the café at the end of the episode? I wonder whether these businesses pay for being in the show

“ whether these businesses pay for being in the show”?

One way or another, yes

How embarrassing that the first Indian lead they have on this show has an episode devoted to how bad she smells and her need for deodorant!

The show is awful

“And just like that”….I’m out!

I want a scene where Charlotte and Carrie are in a cab going down Park Avenue and they see Miranda staggering with a gallon bottle of wine in her hand. Charlotte can screech and the cab driver can kick them both out of the car for damaging his hearing.

R580 She didn't necessarily smell... her client caught a whiff of the waiter which made Seema self-conscious/unsure, giving that she had been running and worked up a swear.

And I am a mature, accomplished, well educated man who is posting on a social media platform about a TV character's body odor. Sheesh.

Because guy are carrying a deodorant stick in your Professor’s briefcase, R583.

R578 Here’s an article about restaurant locations in this episode. The Pelican was Cafe Boulud.

A small point, but there is no way that wealthy Park Avenue family would have those yeah Nutty Bars in their house. This is the same kind who talked about preferring the French toast at The Pierre a few episodes back. Kids if that ilk in 2025 do not know from Little Debbie, now do their parents buy it. If they were to eat junk, it would be high quality junk.

Ugh. Corrected for typos.

A small point, but there is no way that wealthy Park Avenue family would have those trashy Nutty Bars in their house. This is the same kid who talked about preferring the French toast at The Pierre a few episodes back. Kids of that ilk in 2025 do not know from Little Debbie, nor do their parents buy it. If they were to eat junk, it would be high quality junk.

It probably still doesn't make financial sense, R576, but as Seema explained it, she got the office via the real estate equivalent of a "fire sale" - Like in the real world in many places post-Covid - she said something about "no one working in the office" and she picked up the space cheap via a lease or sublease. And she got the assistant "in the divorce" from her old partner. He said he had just moved from London. Of course it he wouldn't have to work for her and could just get a new job in London, but in the universe of the show, all I got from it was that it was someone who she previously worked with and he was available.

R585-Which is the old location of Park Avenue Cafe.