Zohran Mamdani identified as Asian & Black or AfricanAmerican on college application

And, OP--and The NY Times?

So amusing that as Mamdani gets closer to being mayor, all these bullshit, meaningless "gotcha" articles are being propagated by the Times, which clearly has it out for him.

So, OP--Adams the criminal and Dump toady is a better choice for mayor?

Why would he need to pretend to be Black?

Go back to the drawing board, NYT. Very weak hit piece article.

R3: Especially when daddy was already a chaired professor.

He does have Ugandan citizenship still which would seem to provide an excellent excuse.

R3 Because “people of color” take advantage of any opportunity to reap the so-called benefits of being black and then turn around and call black Americans leeches and complain about affirmative action and etc.

🎵 I will follow the road down to Africa…. 😩

Move over, Liz.

If you were born in Uganda, that would make you African-American.

I'm so glad the truth about this guy is coming out in flying colors. He is a lying, racist, Jew hating, silver spoon in his mouth communist. Hopefully, with all the shit coming out of his own mouth, people will finally see him for what he is. I am not hopeful, people are incredibly stupid.

Supposedly, when Zohan checked off the African-American box, he wasn't even American. I used to jokingly introduce my blonde haired, blue eyed South African buddy as my African American friend, but at least he was a US citizen at the time.

Good job NYTimes.

Awwww. Cunt R11 is foaming at the mouth again. Hey, R11/R12--guess what? Mamdani will be the next mayor of NYC, and you can fuck yourself.

Oh, goody, this sad and stupid shit will now be the norm until finally the old and useless fucks get out of the way and accept that he will be the next mayor.

[quote]Zohran Mamdani identified as Asian & Black or AfricanAmerican on college application

At least he lives in the city he wants to be mayor of.

No, dear, you'll be fucking yourself, R13.

What's the problem?

Falsifying race or ethnicity on a college application, as Zohran Mamdani reportedly did, is unethical because it undermines the integrity of affirmative action policies designed to address systemic inequality. Such misrepresentation reflects poor judgment and a troubling sense of entitlement. It is a big deal, and it may be a reason to vote NO for many.

What's your point, OP?

Don't have one? No? Fuck off, MAGA freeper cunt fuck.

Was the application asking about your nationality or your race? I suspect the latter.

I'm not surprised at all. It's very common.

Is this like Charlize Theron, who is also "an American who was born in Africa"? Could any application capture the fullness of her background, either?

Since both his parents are famous, or known to an Ivy admissions committee, it would have been easy for Columbia admissions to fact check, I mean, if they were do to something so petty. They did reject him.

People who get so enraged and start name calling are missing the point. St. Zohran appears to be a scammer and should NOT have done what he did. He should have known better and his parents too if they advised him to do this.

Uh-oh.

His colonialism prof Dad is probably all for owning the white man any way you can. Mira Nair, I don't know how she would come down on this charade.

Hakeem Jeffries had to dodge and weave around the subject when asked on MSNBC of all places. Imagine what will happen in a more objective news outlet.

Why shouldn't he mark Asian and African?

Hakeem couldn't answer that question. That tells me there is not a defense to be had.

Um - his dad was a tenured prof AT COLUMBIA in 2009. It's shocking he didn't get in, but it's not like they didn't know him.

And he is African - just not black African .

Another NYT fail. God they've fallen so God damn far in the past 15 years. NYT used to be a respected institution.

Most people were dragging him on Lipstick Alley.

R29 Hakeem Jeffries took well over a million dollars from AIPAC.

[Quote] Is this like Charlize Theron, who is also "an American who was born in Africa"? Could any application capture the fullness of her background, either?

Race: Caucasian

🎵 I bless the rains down in Africa

R30 don't be a troll. or obtuse. "African American" on a college application and most everywhere else in US culture means black and american. He is African but he is not black. He is not "African American". He is South East Asian or Indian. Now kindly fuck yourself.

It is too bad he did what he did, probably didn't need to. Very hard to know if he took someone else's spot in a competitive school but it could be that is exactly what happened. He is privileged more than most of us here.

R36 he took no one's spot at Columbia, since he was rejected. Did he at Bowdoin? Who knows, who really cares. But it was cynical to do it. And he knew exactly what he was doing.

He is literally an African American.

Two of my housemates at my Ivy League college were from very wealthy families. One well known and worth over 100 million in 1990. They were black. Did checking "african-american" help their admittance? Who knows. Who really cares. They were black so of course they checked it. Thems the rules. We didn't make them, and everyone knew them. On the other hand I knew an african, black, who was practically the Darfur Orphan he was so poor. I knew some really poor white kids, too. The affirmative action rule were meant to redress historical wrongs and also to create a diverse meritocracy. It stuck in my craw that Senator Pocahontas hemmed and hawed in her responses and backstories, rather than copping to truth. "I was a desperate careerist and I did whatever would help me." It's very human. Something akin to stolen valor.

Yes, let’s blame him for something he did when 19–a problem caused by how America categorizes race, not anything he actually did wrong

THIS is exactly why EVERYONE is fucking sick of politics.

[quote] He is literally an African American.

Yes, like Elmo.

[Quote] . "African American" on a college application and most everywhere else in US culture means black and american. He is African but he is not black. He is not "African American". He is South East Asian or Indian. Now kindly fuck yourself.

Just because YOU think it must mean Black is not what it says. It said Black OR African American

It’s America’s utter obsession with race that caused this “problem.”

Pathetic to watch Eric Adams, a literal criminal, trying to make this an issue

R43 An African American is a native black American from ancestral American slavery. Jesse Jackson did not push that term in the 1980s for immigrants.

Stop playing dumb

I'm not a supporter of Mamdani. He is right to focus on making New York more affordable to middle- and working-class families. I do not agree with his proposed policies. Socialism has had its day, and it will not work.

Mamdani has made antisemitic remarks, and his refusal to disavow "Globalize the Intifada" is deeply troubling.

He has very little experience to boot.

But this earth shattering news about what categories he checked off on college applications? Come on! He is all that.

He's also from a very privileged background. That more than ethnic categories helped him achieve a spot at Bowdoin.

What he did to get into college was 100% wrong. I am white, but my father's side of the family emigrated to South America in the early 1920s. I NEVER checked off a box saying that I am Latin American when applying to college, and yes that box was an option. I knew it would be wrong to do and so did MAMDANI. If he was such a naive/innocent lamb at the time, he should explain why he did what he did. It is not sitting well with many.

According to R43's definition, Barack Obama is not African American, but his wife is.

r13 is voting for the first time and is TRIGGERED!

From zero to spewing profanities in no time flat!

"Yes, Veruca, darling!"

[quote]He has very little experience to boot.

He has zero experience to boot.

Zzzzzzzzzzzz, R49/R50.

He is most definitely an African American.

“African American” isn’t a race and shouldn’t be asked as such on college applications.

What they should ask is “are you descended from American slaves?” Because that’s what they really want to know.

It most likely won’t matter.

I for one will be pleased to see him be our next mayor.

Websters:

African American noun : an American of African and especially of Black African descent

often, specifically : a direct descendant of Africans who were enslaved in the U.S. or in any area that became part of the U.S.

Oxford:

African American noun /ˌæfrɪkən əˈmerɪkən/ ​a person from America who is a member of a group of people who have dark skin and whose ancestors came from Africa

Mamdani is NOT from American. And his ancestors did not come from Africa. And they were not enslaved in the usa. And they were not black.

Mamdani is an African immigrant to America, a naturalized U.S. citizen in 2018.

He knew exactly what he was doing. Misleading. Lying.

[quote]Mamdani is an African immigrant to America,

Sounds like literally-- "African American"

[quote]African American noun : an American of African and especially of Black African descent

Now read that again.

He is correct according to this definition

Wow, so this election was about Israel. When that didn't scare enough people, the capiralists shift to defining "African American"

How about focusing on the finances of the city?

{quote]What he did to get into college was 100% wrong. I am white, but my father's side of the family emigrated to South America in the early 1920s. I NEVER checked off a box saying that I am Latin American when applying to college, and yes that box was an option. I knew it would be wrong to do and so did MAMDANI. If he was such a naive/innocent lamb at the time, he should explain why he did what he did. It is not sitting well with many.

Actually, EVERY Latin American original emigrated there. I'm confused why you think you're somehow different

Let's try this again

[quote] What he did to get into college was 100% wrong. I am white, but my father's side of the family emigrated to South America in the early 1920s. I NEVER checked off a box saying that I am Latin American when applying to college, and yes that box was an option. I knew it would be wrong to do and so did MAMDANI. If he was such a naive/innocent lamb at the time, he should explain why he did what he did. It is not sitting well with many.

Actually, EVERY Latin American original emigrated there. I'm confused why you think you're somehow different

So someone who's parents came from Nigeria aren't "African American" because they didn't descend from slaves?

R60 - I didn't believe that post for a second.

Look - I don't know why everyone is freaking out over Mamdani. The current mayor is pathetic and a crook. Cuomo is an asshole and doesn't deserve to be in office again.

I have no problems with young people who are more left-oriented giving it a shot. NOBODY has experience running NYC until you do - same as being President.

How could he fuck it up more than the past 2 mayors? Seriously?

Who cares what he wrote?

Did Columbia Univ. say anywhere: "We give preference to African Americans"? Why are you assuming so?

With the Wall Street Journal running editorials daily with how Mamdani will ruin NYC, I fully expect the WSJ to go full throttle on this BS scandal.

[quote]Mamdani has made antisemitic remarks

Link to an example. Just one example of his supposed antisemitic remarks

[quote]Socialism has had its day, and it will not work.

When exactly did socialism have it's day?

It's going rather gangbusters in Europe actually.

[quote]He knew exactly what he was doing. Misleading. Lying.

You talking about Adams or Cuomo?

Barack is not African American he is black. Half black that is. You don't get to make up your bespoke definition of African American that includes Zohran Mamdani, Charlize Theron, and Elon Musk. And neither did Mamdani have the right.

[quote]Barack is not African American he is black.

So when he chose "African American" on the census, should that have been a scandal?

For God's sake, this parsing of words is exactly what gets liberals in trouble

[quote]You don't get to make up your bespoke definition of African American that includes Zohran Mamdani, Charlize Theron, and Elon Musk. And neither did Mamdani have the right.

In fact you do. This constant sticking us into buckets based on race and ethnicity gets silly after a while. Along with that, you get mad if people who YOU think don't go into a bucket actually do because of the way you titled the bucket.

THe words are "African American." If you don't want Mamdani, Theron, and Musk to go into that bucket, I suggest you find another name for that bucket

100% agree with R63.

Pathetic that the right is trying to push this scandal--as if they're so invested in who checks off African American.

I bet Mamdani thought long and hard about this. He realized he's not just Asian; he also has African heritage and there's no other way to note that except African American

I'm warming to Mamdani.

DeBlasio and Adams didn't seem to understand how income disparities and housing prices were becoming the main issues NYers were worried about. At least Mamdani grabbed on to what matters to most. Whether his ideas will work or not--who knows but we do know that doing the same thing over and over hasnt worked .

Let's ask Al Sharpton if Mamdani is African American. There will be tears.

[Quote] Let's ask Al Sharpton if Mamdani is African American. There will be tears.

Why don’t we ask him how the finances for NYC are doing. There will be tears

I heard he isn’t black.

[quote]Mamdani is an African immigrant to America,

Yes, and therefore he’s African-American. Just like people who identify as Italian-American, and Chinese-Americans, and Indian-Americans.

African-American isn’t a race. And neither is “Latino”, for that matter. Some Latinos are white, some are black, and many are Native American or mixed.

The question wasn’t: Are you Black of African Origin descended from slaves?

It was Black OR African American.

Mamdani was born in Africa, and thus African American

What a fucking non-issue all this is. Pathetic.

Complete non-issue. Because Adams is such a failure of a mayor— a criminal and Trump suck up, this is all he has to distract from his horrid record

[quote]Link to an example. Just one example of his supposed antisemitic remarks

What would you call this, R66?

R78 African American isn’t a race, it’s an ethnicity label for Black Americans who don’t know what part of Africa they descend from so they use Africa as an umbrella term.

You know good and well what it means.

This is racist AF because you’re literally trying to erase Black Americans. Re-appropriating the term to justify a racist loophole you’re creating.

Zofran became a US citizen in 2018, he lied on the application in 2009. He was not even an American citizen. This privileged communist has zero integrity with a lot of stupid ideas. Why his fixation with trannies is another question.

[quote] When exactly did socialism have it's day? It's going rather gangbusters in Europe actually

Venezuela is a contemporary example of its complete failure.

Classic examples of the Soviet Union and East Germany

But I'm sure you're thinking Norway and Sweden . Or GB, France, or Germany. All are downsizing the welfare state.

Higher taxes will result in businesses and companies fleeing the city.

Government-run grocery stores? Free bus rides? Free child care? By taxing "whiter" neighborhoods? And with a governor who will not raise income tax!

Incentivize job growth and opportunities

[quote] Higher taxes will result in businesses and companies fleeing the city.

I guess, R85, it doesn't matter that the people who are actually "fleeing" the city are those who simply can't afford the cost of housing in NYC. Until that is truly addressed, and dealt with, NYC will only be a city for the super wealthy, with no middle class at all. Job growth and opportunities are not the problem in NYC, it's rents and the lack of affordable places to live.

Mamdani must be a Republican plant. No better way to tear the Democratic Party apart than pushing this privileged race grifter.

Oh, brother, R87.

No one screams "grifter" more than the actual grifter and criminal, Eric Adams.

R86, yes, that's a problem. Renters need immediate relief. Short term relief won't solve the problem. The better solution is not freezing rent, but increasing the supply of housing. Incentivize building more affordable housing for developers and builders.

Free bus rides is absurd, so are government-run grocery stores.

The problem with increasing the supply of housing is that ALL housing costs money. A studio is budgeted for approx. $2300 by Section 8 and NYC housing vouchers. This is crazy. A single man/woman in a studio on govt. assistance is costing a fortune and it just gets worse as the family size grows. More housing means more poor people coming to NYC to expect what others have gotten. If NYC is giving more than other places it will always be a magnet for people who need help. If NYC gives about the same as other big cities, there will be less incentive to relocate to NYC.

Supporters will excuse anything for their chosen candidate. If he didn’t know posing as a Black person was wrong or if he was really so dull that he couldn’t figure out circa 2009 that the application categories:

Hispainic/Latino

Black/African American

Other ______________

were about RACE, he is too dumb to run NYC

PS He’s a complete liar about his freebies, which would entail taxing the middle class heavily as well as the rich.

Pardon the typo *Hispanic

Zohran Mamdani identified as BOSSY BOTTOM on college application.

I don't care for Mamdani but can see him as the lesser of two evils and someone who looks good after two dismal predecessors. The Democratic Socialists in my city council are out of their minds and I would never vote for one. And they are always doing things that they deny are antisemitic. They're exhausting.

Mamdani's video alarmed me at first but it was produced as part of a holiday album by a Canadian Punjabi group that does parodies and had one for Kwanza. I'm sure it was well-intentioned. They're not wearing fake noses and beards to mock Jews.

Interesting that the major democratic cities are outrageously expensive, including tax-wise, while colleges and universities are driving young people into a form of financial slavery pawning off useless degrees on them, mainly graduate. Zohran got a degree in African studies. Lucky him to be a Trust Fund Victim Communist.

Cities with Republican mayors: Dallas, Fort Worth, Oklahoma City, Fresno, CA, Mesa, Az, Virginia Beach, Bakersfield, Ca, Plano, Tx, Lexington, Ky, etc, Miami and Scottsdale strike me as the only two I'd spend a month in.

I'm not suffering from gender dysphoria but I desperately need two (more) dental implants, which will cost about $12,000. Is there any way we can dip into the $65 MILLION "bottom surgery" fund to help a NYC resident of over forty years?

CHEWERS LIVES MATTER!

R98, I'm starting to think dentistry is a scam. I brush, floss, eat super healthy, exercise, cleanings every 6 months...got two abcesses this week and dentist says two teeth will probably need to be pulled and one implant. Nothing can be done to save these otherwise healthy teeth???!

R97, that's not the point and it's not about you baby doll.

The point is that Democratic-run cities are expensive because everyone wants to live there which is not true of cities with Republican mayors. Doubt if the finance world is filled with gender study majors.

Zohran probably wasn't smart enough to get into this particular college without the lie he told. That is why he did it. It was calculated and it stole someone else's opportunity. Not too easy to forgive, but there has been no apology anyway. Eric Adams is better than DeBlasio, even as an almost convicted felon.

R102 he did not get into Columbia. Where is dad was prof, by the way. I don't know if it was the same timing.

Zohran was probably not nervy enough to check the box for African American when applying to Columbia because Daddy would have gotten a phone call from Admissions. He did it at a college in Maine where he could get away with it. Hopefully he will address it head on. At least Elizabeth Warren did that much.

I am confused. I thought the did it at Columbia. And was rejected. Isn't that what was reported? This is about Bowdoin?

R105 I think you are right, it was Columbia.

Elizabeth Warren did not address it head on she made up a cockamamie excuse that she was always told that. So of course she decided to identify as N.A.

My parents always said they thought I was the Queen of Sheba, which is Ethiopia, but I didn't decide I was African American at college application time. I guess I should have.

Oh and the Queen of Sheba is a descendent of Solomon so I'm an African American Jew.

How is lying about your race on a college application a gotcha issue? You people are pathetic and grasping for straws. As a fellow white woman, can you please stop doing racist things (especially taking up space and making issues about you when they have nothing to do with you?). As white people we really really need to be silent, we need to listen, we need to acknowledge that our mere presence can be oppressive. Frankly, it doesn't matter what you "intended". The fact is, you are so damn privileged that you have the luxury of acting first and thinking later, and your only consequence is that *some* people. Do better!

[quote]At least Elizabeth Warren did that much.

Well, yes she did in a completely ridiculous and hare-brained fashion.

She lies about stuff and her stories change considerably over time. Nope.

R82, it looks like a celebration of Hannukah

[Quote] Well, yes she did in a completely ridiculous and hare-brained fashion. (Elizabeth Warren) lies about stuff and her stories change considerably over time. Nope.

Please cite even one example

The very fact that Zohran wrote “Ugandan” in his handwriting next to the box shows he wasn’t being calculating.

He’s both a US and Ugandan —so if he was trying to pretend he was Black American, he wouldn’t have written Ugandan.

And why do we assume he would get advantage checking Black or African American? They interview the applicants. They would know immediately he wasn’t black

[Quote] Elizabeth Warren did not address it head on she made up a cockamamie excuse that she was always told that.

Because many many people are told “you have some American Indian” in you, without ever investigating it

[Quote] Zohran probably wasn't smart enough to get into this particular college without the lie he told.

He actually told the truth. He is literally African American

r11, r12

Rethuglian operatives are trained by Russian Kompromat experts. No dustbin will be missed.

They're so afraid of Z they already have Trump yakking about taking over New York.

Progressive/Socialists: we believe the millions of immigrants entering our country illegally are all saints and we will spend billions to house them!

Also Progressives/Socialists: wah! shit is too expensive and there’s a housing shortage.

Elizabeth Warren was from Oklahoma. Most people have some Native American in them and she did too

1/64 and 1/1024 (i.e., around 0.1% to 1.5%) Native American from 6-10 generations ago. So it's really great that the Ivy League school hired a female Native American professor to add diversity to the staff. 👍🤡

r1 beat me

[quote]As white people we really really need to be silent, we need to listen, we need to acknowledge that our mere presence can be oppressive.

I have a feeling that YOUR mere presence can be oppressive.

Not to mention thoroughly exhausting...

I don’t see the problem.

Good lord, you pricks are getting desperate.

I'm not even a supporter of the little pinko, but the fact that the powers that be are THIS desperate to stop him makes me think he's on to something.

He was 17, teens do all kinds of things — I’d give him a pass on this one. Even though it was a cynical attempt to pass himself off as a Black American student to try to help his chances of admission.

R125 is such a stereotype.

“I learned the truth at 17…”

Meanwhile, President Anal Fissure announced he'd take over NYC if Mamdani's elected.

Between Donald and Mamdani I've got my money on the latter.

NYC doesn't need another rich entitled weirdo. It needs a fighter for working class New York.

Madmani has got them all running scared.

Teen liar usually means an adult sociopath.

[quote]Elizabeth Warren was from Oklahoma. Most people have some Native American in them and she did too

But it turns out she really didn't.