Kate Middleton talks about having cancer and still doesn’t say which type she had

She said she had abdominal surgery. That really limits the kinds of cancer it could be.

Because she doesn't want the whole world talking about the state of her ass and cunt, perhaps

It was her Princess Parts

Almost swept away by some vulgar little tumor.

[quote]What is the point of keeping it a secret?

Because a princess does not discuss her hoo-hoo, whether it be healthy or rotten or burned out.

Eh, it's her business. She has enough to deal with, give the poor lady a break.

I don't understand OP. Why does she have to tell anyone what type of cancer she had?

Because OP feels he has a right to know!

Here comes the KGs

The what, R9?

Who cares op?

I'm assuming ovarian based on the abdominal surgery and the quotes about her being "lucky to be alive". Ovarian cancer is extremely pernicious and it has a low survival rate. My aunt battled it and had to have abdominal surgery to remove a huge mass of cancer tissue. She did chemo as well, but it eventually killed her within a couple of years of her diagnosis. I think it's weird that she won't name it either, but maybe discussing any matters of the ovaries is too improper for British nobility.

[quote]I think it's weird that she won't name it either, but maybe discussing any matters of the ovaries is too improper for British nobility.

Or it's just nobodies business but her own.

She scheduled this interview to discuss her cancer. Her not saying what kind is ridiculous.

Really, R14? Saying she has cancer and what that's been like for her isn't enough for you? By the way, can you explain why you need to know the details? Who did you fuck this week?

R14 wants to know, it's his right: was it cunt cancer? TELL HIM!

This is the other edge of the sword Kate has chosen to wield.

She wants to be a royal? She wants to be a household name, and a future queen, and a staple of supermarket tabloids? Then people are going to be nosy about her cancer of the asshole. Her right to privacy evaporated when she chose to strip for Billy the Bald and become a future consort.

What the fuck are you banging on about, Miss R17?

Yes, R17, I'm so sure she wants to be a "a staple of supermarket tabloids." Sounds like that's what YOU want for her. Because you don't know her. You're just an idiot.

R17 is just a nosy littles Gladys Kravitz cunt.

So much hostility. Is this a result of that other thread getting shut down?

She is not a politician or a celebrity. She has a right to keep some things private.

I think it’s strange to talk about it but not specify type and area. It’s like a weird tease.

[quote] She is not a politician or a celebrity. She has a right to keep some things private.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I believe she has the right but not for any reason you have given

Cervical cansuh!

Why is it your business though R23?

Do you understand you are at a gossip site r26?

Jeepers, if her prognosis really is this poor they'll have no choice but to bring Harry back.

See you in 48 hours r28

I really don't need to know what kind of cancer she had. What purpose, if not satisfying morbid curiosity, would it serve? Why fucking dwell in the mortality-oriented aspect of the disease? If she did reveal the type, I could see people "doing their own research" and coming up with all sorts of speculation about prognosis, survival rates, and causes. And God forbid , speculation about what she may have done to bring on cancer so young. All unproductive.

If she has a duty to fulfill, it would be to support efforts like preventive screening for young people, supportive services during treatment and aftercare, and research. Stuff that can practically help people with all types of cancers.

Only a few decades ago the word “cancer” was spoken in hushed tones. No one would have dreamed enquire whether it was afflicting one’s cervix or anus

R14 she wasn’t interviewed

She chose the life of a celebrity. She could accomplish so much by addressing cancer awareness, i.e. how it was discovered, how to guide her subjects to the same tests and treatments.

[QUOTE]i.e. how it was discovered, how to guide her subjects to the same tests and treatments.

This is not a Princess's job. It's the role of the physician. It's almost as though you think she should supplant the experts. oncologists. etc. in dispensing medical advice. Sheesh.

And you have decided the parameters of her job. She's a CELEBRITY REPRESENTATIVE OF HER COUNTRY.

That's how they generate revenue. She'll be the next Queen if her health holds up. Her late mother-in-law would have been a beacon in the same circumstances.

She needs to start earning her keep unless she's too sick to do so.

I understand her desire for privacy and it is her right to maintain it. Some people who have celebrity and favorable press take the opportunity of their illness to educate people about what symptoms to watch for, what to expect during exams and surgery, helpful hints to endure chemo and radiation. But that's asking a lot, and the experience might be too fresh and/or too painful for her to recount to the public.

R33 She's not a celebrity and she does not and will never have subjects, you complete idiot.

I'm not r33, but celebrity means FAMOUS, or BEING WELL-KNOWN. Yes, we call movie stars and other media figures who seek out fame "celebrities", but someone like the wife of the future kind of England will have celebrity whether she sought it out or not. The Royal Family of Great Britain exploit its celebrity for many good causes, mainly to raise money for charities. Part of the business of "the Firm" , (the name given to it by Queen Elizabeth's father, (King George VI) is to make sure that the royal family is always in the news somehow or other, although it tries to make sure that the publicity is positive whenever possible.

As a working royal, she does have a kind of quasi-constitutional role. and she receives a substantial amount of money from the Head of State for it. So there is a real public interest in her state of health: the level of detail required is obviously a matter for debate.

[QUOTE] And actually, someone to help talk you through that, show you and guide you through that sort of phase that comes after treatment, I think is really valuable,” she went on.

Shame nobody talked her through life with a stoma and colostomy bag!

If it's ovarian cancer, then it's understandable not to want to put it out there.

Ovarian cancer is usually caught late therefore has a low survival rate. Not only would identifying the cancer as ovarian send the media into a frenzy, it would scare her children.

The "abdominal surgery" she had is consistent with the "debulking surgery" many ovarian cancer patients have prior to starting chemo. Informing the public she had "abdominal surgery" is one way around naming the actual cancer.

Many people living with cancer draw inspiration from stories of those who have battled the disease and survived it. I think Kate could do a lot of good by letting the public know what type of cancer she had and how she fought it.

Ludicrous of posters trying disguise their prurient interest by dressing it up as public interest or benefit - exactly what the most disgusting tabloids do.

^Agree to an extent but her children come first.

If keeping it private spares her children having their mother's possibly grim diagnosis splashed in their faces every time they turn on the tv or go on the internet, then so be it. They aren't even teenagers yet.

[quote] prurient interest

Oh, please, darlin'.

R44 I would hope she was honest enough to let her children know what was happening with her.

R6 yes—everyday life is a struggle, as is.😵‍💫

Why are her children on the internet, or watching tv news?

Seethe with jealousy, op.

These threads are hilarious!

Why wouldn’t they be R48?

[quote]Because a princess does not discuss her hoo-hoo, whether it be healthy or rotten or burned out.

Unless it's about the stinky Tampons the King gets his knickers in a wad over.

[quote]Saying she has cancer and what that's been like for her isn't enough for you?

No. All cancers are different.

[quote]She's not a celebrity

You’re retarded.

R51 so they won’t know mummy has the C. Duh.

I hate this cunt.

It must be an HPV-related cancer like anal or cerivcal. That’s the only reason she’s not talking about it, so people don’t know she slutted it up at Uni.

I hate people who hide behind children. For some reason, she's a beloved figure; she could help many people. Biden announcing that he had aggressive prostate cancer caused an uptick in men getting checked for the disease. That's a good thing. Use your position for doing something other than standing on a damned balcony and waving to the peasants.

She’s reinforcing the idea that cancer is embarrassing and shameful.

R59 Exactly.

You people are disgusting. If a coworker mentioned to you that they were taking time off for scheduled surgery and didn’t specify what kind of surgery, you don’t ask them for the details to satisfy your morbid curiosity. Revealing a cancer diagnosis is no different. No one owes YOU any explanation.

Biden hid the fact that he had prostate cancer for as long as possible, r58.

No one considers the crowds in Pall Mall to be peasants, least of all the people in the crowds themselves. In the UK it's difficult to get a cancer test done on your own initiative, but Charles and Catherine revealing they had cancer has raised awareness of the importance of getting checked when they're invited to be the NHS.

R62 is full of shit about Biden.

Fuck off, MAGAt.

R61 I had surgery for prostate cancer last year. When I told co-workers I was going to be out for a while for surgery, I told those who asked that I had prostate cancer. I'm not ashamed of it, and I actually convinced a couple of guys I work with to get a PSA test when we talked about it.

Yes, it's a personal decision, but the problem with Kate is that a) she's a public figure, like it or not, and b) it's already been revealed she was being treated for cancer. I don't see why she can't just tell people what kind of cancer she was treated for.

[quote]You people are disgusting. If a coworker mentioned to you that they were taking time off for scheduled surgery and didn’t specify what kind of surgery, you don’t ask them for the details to satisfy your morbid curiosity. Revealing a cancer diagnosis is no different. No one owes YOU any explanation.

Mavis from accounts receivable in the next office is not the future Queen of England with a platform and a PR machine that can help millions of people. Princess William is not your co-worker or your bestie, she's an international figure. She could have helped and chose not to.

Oh get lost, r63. It's a well-established fact that Biden didn't disclose either his cognitive decline or his cancer, which he wasn't just diagnosed with. Biden's coyness about his health is precisely what helped Trump win. Didn't you notice how he was forced to stand down because of his bad health, which he still refused to admit to.

How about Lloyd Austin, then? He had prostate cancer and hid it, even from his deputy and the president. Was he reinforcing the idea that cancer is something to be ashamed of?

It was her cooter. Royals don't talk about that publicly.

R64 seems to think that his personal situation, as a completely unknown person, applies in exactly the same way to a world-famous woman whose every move and non-move is commented upon.

Your judgmentalism is precisely why she doesn't want to reveal what's happening in which part of her body.

Not at all, r59. She's reinforcing the fact that cancer is a personal thing that can happen to any of us, even the most seemingly vibrant and full of life. I'm glad she's also reinforcing the idea that it's possible to keep some things private and that people should respect that.

R56=MeAgain.

Stuck up bitch. Her sister-in-law would have shown us the cancer

R22 Of course she’s not one of those things.

Those people work for a living.

Celebrities all work for a living, R72? Stupidity abounds on this thread.

Truth Cancer.

Not sharing her medical records with the world isn't the same as lying, but of course idiots like R74 are too stupid to understand that.

R75 She may not be outright lying, but she's certainly withholding the truth.

From you, you mean, you nosy bitch R76. She owes you NOTHING. How many times did you take a shit yesterday? WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW!

I love it--all the asshats here who are beside themselves with frustration that information about a total stranger's health is being kept from them. Suck it, clowns! 🤡

R77 You okay, honey? You need a minute?

No, honey R79, I'm just fine. I don't need to know about some woman's cancer prognosis. Are you okay, though, being deprived of such necessary info?

Some of you are correct, she doesn't have to divulge her personal health information. However, if she cared about doing good for her fans she would have told them to get checked, especially if they're under 50 like her. I guess she's more like Catherine de Medici than Catherine the Great

The public pays for her care. Where are the receipts??

If she named the type of cancer, the news stations would be filled with interviews from “specialists”, speculation about her chances of survival, graphs, etc ad Nauseum. People would tell stories about how their neighbor died just two years after diagnosis.

She’s a survivor. ‘Nuff said.

And after all the work I did to normalize: talking about anal cancer!

I don't think she's in remission.

Nobody here in the UK is demanding to know the details of her illness. It’s her business.

[quote] You people are disgusting. If a coworker mentioned to you that they were taking time off for scheduled surgery and didn’t specify what kind of surgery

That’s not the case here. She called for an interview to talk about it without actually talking about it. She’s doing damage. When public people come out about an illness millions go and get screened.

Not true, r86.

She must be advocating for people go and get full body scans to detect cancer. Good luck getting the NHS to pay for that. There are young women dying of cervical cancer. If that’s what she has she should be advocating for pap smears. She’s helping no one with this and looks like a narcissistic goofball. She should be using her celebrity for good. She’s a public servant.

I believe she still has a right to privacy if/when she chooses to discuss her condition at all. I wish only the best for her: she seems like a lovely woman.

R82 No they do not.

R80 Clearly, you're not fine, getting all worked up over some royal from across the pond.

Some Americans are probably confused about prevailing expectations for privacy in the UK. Europe generally has the opposite approach to privacy from us, opt in rather than opt out. Right? And the British have never been known as over-sharers?

How long ago was she Kate Middleton? I know you girls are old and find even small changes daunting, but give the woman her due.

Just because she has private care and not NHS doesn’t mean that the public doesn’t support those cheesy welfare queens.

[quote]she seems like a lovely woman

Based on what? If you know her personally and are friends with her, then I will take back the question.

Why is Kate such a sacred cow around here?

R95 You have no idea what you're talking about.

R96, Based on reports of her helping her brother with his depression, which HE revealed, not her.

Sure, they are hard little workers.

Jumped-up marmalade-smeared German aristocrats and sex pests and C-list Hollywood starlets and horse enthusiasts.

[quote] She scheduled this interview to discuss her cancer. Her not saying what kind is ridiculous.

I agree. She is in a position to encourage women to get checked and discuss symptoms with their healthcare providers. She is in a position to do real valuable advocacy.

But Kate Middleton posits herself as a Royal porcelain doll.

[quote] Europe generally has the opposite approach to privacy from us, opt in rather than opt out. Right?

You’ve obviously never picked up a British tabloid.

Her brother sounds like such a Mary!

[quote] That’s not the case here. She called for an interview to talk about it without actually talking about it. She’s doing damage. When public people come out about an illness millions go and get screened.

You know that, if she disclosed which kind, the public would be consulting the probabilities and speculating when she is expected to die. Perhaps she doesn’t want that for herself or her children. She doesn’t have much choice in the modern age but to acknowledge she has an Illness and to speak about it to a degree. There’s nothing at all disappointing about her not surrendering the totality of her privacy.

I wish the princess and her family well, for the long term. If the UK wants to have such visible and active royalty in the 21st century they set a wonderful example.

P.S. I love that little brat, Louis.

R75 cultists gotta cult

[quote] Her brother sounds like such a Mary!

Give the guy a break. Depression can be a very debilitating illness. It might be hard to understand if you've never experienced it personally or been close to someone who has.

I found James's appearance and participation in his sister's wedding in 2011 to be quite intriguing.

R108 How could anyone be depressed in that family? The mom's a former flooze, the dad runs a party planning business, one sister's anal-tumored Princess of Wales, and the other sister's got a million-dollar can. They're gloriously colorful.

If it's a kind of cancer that might point back to her sexual history, or lead to speculation about it, I find her lack of disclosure totally understandable and acceptable.

I was appalled at pharmacy personnel calling out the name of the prescription acyclovir to a person picking it up at Walgreen's in the Castro when I was picking up one of my own prescriptions. I eventually switched to another pharmacy to avoid those queens.

Her demand for privacy in some areas of her world - while gladly forsaking it in others - is inconsistent and galling. She can't have it both ways. She married into this celebrity family, and everything about her life is now the subject of gossip and glossy photography. This is what she gets for joining the family.

Same goes for Harry and MeAgain, who screech about privacy and security, while continually blogging and launching flop Netflix series about their lives.

Same goes for Lady Di, who bitched nonstop about invasions of privacy, but used the media to advance her interests - from that Revenge Dress to her photo ops in Rwanda and Tottenham.

They don't want too much privacy. If they have that, then the world realizes how irrelevant they actually are, and the majesty evaporates.

[quote]Her demand for privacy in some areas of her world - while gladly forsaking it in others - is inconsistent and galling. She can't have it both ways. She married into this celebrity family, and everything about her life is now the subject of gossip and glossy photography. This is what she gets for joining the family.

You're American right?

I don't think there is a huge disappointment in the UK that she has not been spilling her guts. It is true her family is famous, but it's official purpose is not to provide gossip.

I think she realizes it's galling to some people, like you, that you can't know everything about her private life. Like me, she may wonder why it is galling to you that you can't know what's going on inside her torso and she concluded she just can't please everyone and their inscrutable needs.

Unlike Harry or Diana, I don't think she is suing people or giving interviews constantly complaining about people talking about her. She has just decided not tell you all the things you desperately want to know, but don't need to know. I think it's galling only to you and your kind.

The point of the family is to provide a ceremonial head of state, not to talk about their intestines or reproductive tracts. Do you also wonder what the point of the president of Germany or of Israel is if he or she doesn't talk about her intestines or reproductive parts?

[quote] The point of the family is to provide a ceremonial head of state, not to talk about their intestines or reproductive tracts.

Then explain how we know about King Charles and his prostate.

HRM’s taint rot is more newsworthy, apparently.

R113. He is the serving head of state, and he had to explain why there would be alterations to his official duties. It was his choice to reveal the circumstances under which he discovered the cancer. Like Catherine, he has not revealed the kind of cancer from which he is suffering.

[quote] Same goes for Lady Di

Posting from 1981.

R115 He revealed he underwent surgery for an enlarged prostate, so I guess as long as the privates aren't cancerous, they can talk about 'em.

R117. Thank you for posting what was openly acknowledged in my post already. It is most helpful.

To repeat, if he wished to reveal these private details, he can. It should not be a source of frustration if he does not.

R118 Ahem:

[quote] The point of the family is to provide a ceremonial head of state, not to talk about their intestines or reproductive tracts.

R114 What is a "HRM"?

R119. Do you have a literacy problem?

If she doesn’t want to talk about it she shouldn’t be doing interviews about it. She looks like a moron.

His Royal Majesty

R121 No, but you seem to have trouble with the definition of "hypocrisy."

Or maybe it's just that you refuse to admit you speak from your arse and refuse to admit you, as one would say, "fucked up."

R123 There is no such term.

Cut me some slack, R125, it’s Independence Day. And shit is grim. Kicking the king out is all we’ve got left.

At least we didn’t organize any regicide. Hypocrites!

She's so dainty and delicate. Butter wouldn't melt in her mouth. Have her kids seen all of her drunk photos? Those of you who circle around this woman like she's some fragile baby doll aren't helping. If she wanted privacy, she should have married Bill the Scottish Fishmonger. She doesn't have to go into details. Just say, "They discovered a tumour in my colon. Colon cancer is affecting younger people. Please schedule a checkup today and donate to the Cancer Society.

R121 must be on the bad girls list. Her post doesn't appear for me unless I go through r124.

R129 She probably got FFed into oblivion.

I wonder why.

Kate has smoked heavily since she was a teenager so some kind of cancer was inevitable.

[quote]No one considers the crowds in Pall Mall to be peasants

How cute. Peasants don't know they are peasants even though they live in a kingdom with a living king.

Smell the cunt upthread telling people what to post.

I assume it’s a cancer with a pretty high mortality rate…she doesn’t want the pity and speculation.

[quote] she doesn’t want the pity and speculation.

I can understand any human being not wanting the speculation. The rest sounds like projection unless you know her personally.

R7 OP is Meghan Markle

We all know what r137 is.

I think she’d be nuts to start divulging any details about the type of cancer. It’s almost certainly colon or ovarian or something related/adjacent. She’s at least a little bit vain (nobody wears such over top hair extensions or makes such an effort to emphasize their slimness unless they are a little vain) and doesn’t want people taking about whether or not she has genital warts or a colostomy bag. I wouldn’t, either. Her kids are an even bigger reason. If you have a life expectancy of 5-7 years, there is no need to divulge that to kids that young. They can be told mom is ill and get the full gut punch when it’s down to a year. And a third reason might be that she got new experimental treatments not available to the average Briton that saved (or at least extended) her life. She can’t very well share a cancer story that involves her being saved by a treatment the NHS won’t provide for other people in the same condition.

But the “precancerous” bullshit, laughably amateurish doctored photo, complete disappearance (she could have waved out a car window ffs), and cheesy video were stupid moves.

The wrong people have cancer.

Just say you hate yt, OP, and go about your day.

Datalounge will not change to suit you.

[quote]I think she’d be nuts to start divulging any details about the type of cancer. It’s almost certainly colon or ovarian or something related/adjacent ... Her kids are an even bigger reason.

If it's ovarian, the idea that the future of the British monarchy was born of cancer-generating organs is an unfavorable matter of optics.

I'll ww you now r143 to help prevent you getting a time-out from the bigoted fat straight old lady Brits who think they belong here.

That won’t help

All of r121's posts have been liquidated.

If you are one of her acolytes you should be asking why. Exposed as homophobic maybe?

This is all Louis fault. He spoils everything, if you know what i mean…

R123,

That style does not exist, except to Americans.

Well since these styles are literally made up as TPTB, see fit, we are free to make up our own bullshit in response.

It's completely idiotic for her to say what kind of cancer she has. She is a human being and even if she is a celebrity has a right to privacy. And as one poster said if she reveals it the gossip and speculation would go through the roof and it's bad enough now. King Charles has not revealed what kind of cancer he has and nobody expects him to. Speculation says it is worse than the King lets on but it's his business. Hold something on for yourself and deal with it privately.

[quote] she doesn’t want the pity and speculation

So by all means, shroud the details of your illness in mystery, because that will certainly quell any speculation on the part of the public.

It just kills you that Kate is so beloved, doesn't it, OP? Not only did Meghan's smear campaign fail, but Kate is more popular than ever. Even when she gets cancer, you cannot show a modicum of grace.

Shouldn't you have moved on by now? Isn't Caitlin Clark the new race card punching bag?

Never thought about it this way before…

Wisteria AI:

The term "Wisteria sisters" refers to Kate Middleton (now the Duchess of Cambridge) and her sister, Pippa Middleton. It was a nickname used by the British press and within aristocratic circles to describe them, particularly in the early 2000s when Kate was dating Prince William. The name is a reference to the plant wisteria, which is known for its decorative appearance and ability to climb with "ferocious" strength, according to The Daily Mail. This nickname highlighted their perceived social climbing ambition and polished appearance, according to a post on Instagram.

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[quote]King Charles has not revealed what kind of cancer he has and nobody expects him to.

Nobody is surprised that an elderly man who’s looked ill and deathly for a decade now has cancer.

People are more surprised that an early 40s woman who has been seemingly healthy now suddenly has a serious cancer that required her to have major surgery and a year of treatment. It’s not unreasonable for the public to be interested in what’s going on.

[quote] The wrong people have cancer.

Then man up r140 and name the people you think “deserve” cancer.

OP, isn't there a $299 Carnival Cruise you should be on?

I agree that she needs to be careful about how she talks about it. The initial PR missteps seem to have been forgiven by the public, but that sympathy card may not be good to play twice. The “Yay, I’m better” video didn’t go over too well and it was followed pretty quickly by her apparently NOT being better enough to follow a relatively light schedule.

She’s in a really tough spot. Whatever is wrong with her, it’s likely that her long term prognosis has some uncertainly, especially since cancer treatments improve constantly. This was not an interview, correct? She was doing a visit and simply talking to people? She’s got to say something, right? Sharing that she’s had a hard time doesn’t seem inappropriate to me. But if it comes out that she wasn’t that ill or the opposite was true and anyone else would have died but she had a head transplant and then spent 3 months in suspended animation getting her DNA edited and the blood of virgins transfused into, her that’s going to come back to haunt her.

She said she was in remission, not cancer-free.

R157 I'm not R140, but I'll gladly "man up."

1) Donald Trump

2) Elon Musk

3) Marjorie Taylor-Greene

4) Lauren Boebert

5) Mike Johnson

6) Jim Jordan

7) Pete Hegseth

8) Laura Loomer

9) Kristi Noem

10) Karoline Leavitt

11) JD Vance

12) Donald Trump Jr.

13) Eric Trump

14) Lara Trump

15) Ivanka Trump

16) Jared Kushner

17) Kimberly Guilfoyle

18) Lisa Murkowski

19) Susan Collins

20) Josh Hawley

Those are just my Top 20.

Good list r161.

How very DARE she?

Thank you!

r161 Why is Stephen Miller not on the list??

R165 He's #21.

The downside to that list would be the gushing sympathy and canonization of each one.

Only by 30% of the population (still too many, though).

R161, you’re not r140, and you left off the two very names r140 was referring to, so enough.

R169 What are you talking about? Would you like to be added to the list or something?

R161

21) Stephen Miller

22) Mitch McConnell

23) Joni Ernst

24) Steve Bannon

25) James Comer

26) Dan Crenshaw

27) Steve Scalise (he learned nothing from getting shot)

28) Harriet Hageman

29) Virginia Foxx (being born cross-eyed wasn't punishment enough)

30) All ICE agents

31) All January 6th rioters (who are also probably the same people as #30)

32) Ted Cruz

33) Matt Gaetz

34) Mrs. Matt Gaetz

35) Lindsey Graham

36) Elise Stefanik

37) RFK Jr.

38) Paul Gosar

39) Pam Bondi

40) R169, apparently

Why is Stephen Miller so low and below Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins? I can understand not caring for Lisa and Susan, but above Stephen Miller, come on.

R172 Feel free to rearrange the list as you see fit.

[quote] [R169] What are you talking about? Would you like to be added to the list or something?

I am r157, and as I said, I already have cancer.

R174 So do I, but it doesn't exempt me from creating a list of shitty people who should be suffering from it but aren't.

You fail to grasp the point, but as you have cancer, I’ll let you off the hook.

R176 Oh, I get the point.

I think the cancers of King Charles and Kate are embarrassing in some way. Maybe Kate had intestinal cancer and had a stoma and didn’t want people to imagine her shitting. I think Charles has either testicular or anal cancer, also being obviously embarrassing…and likely resulting in some jeering by asshole members of the public.

She’s married to a bald guy. She’s suffered enough.

It’s obviously ass cancer.

[quote] Maybe Kate had intestinal cancer and had a stoma and didn’t want people to imagine her shitting.

Honestly all the more reason why she should bring attention to it because there is nothing embarrassing about it. She could discuss it without providing pictorial evidence.

If clean, shiny English Rose Kate had a stoma, she could do enormous amounts of good, encouraging women to get checked and to show that you can still do be a mother and go mushrooming and watch tennis whatever else she does with her time and look good.

But she and The Men In Gray prefer she be Royal Barbie.

Yes, R181, and it's sad to observe.

Diana is an icon because she was such a humanist who used her position to break down the wall between the monarchy and humanity — touching and hugging AIDS patients, etc.

Kate is so worried about "how it all will look." At a time when more and more people under 50 are being diagnosed with cancer — it's arguably the biggest demographic health crisis we've seen since the emergence of HIV — she could be leading the way toward awareness and more research funding.

But she's not up to it.

And oh goodness, you couldn't show up at the Royal Ascot to wave and wear a pretty dress for a few minutes, then have your staff cook you meals and take care of your kids?

Then show up at a photo op and try to relate to cancer patients. There's no relating here.

Regular people diagnosed with cancer have to do EVERYTHING THEY WERE DOING BEFORE — figure out how to get treatment yet show up to their jobs, so they can still afford to feed their kids.

The way this is being handled is so utterly tone-deaf — just completely disconnected from the idea of public service.

Catherine, Princess of Wales.

I adore that woman’s fame; indeed, she currently sits atop my “Favorite Famous Person” list.

Mentally and emotionally talk about one steely, tough, immovable, I’ll cut-a-bitch interior all cloaked in exterior, flawless presentation.

I don’t care if she’s “concealing” the specific type of cancer she has. I don’t need to know.

All I know is I wouldn’t cross Kate. That boringly perfect exterior is the perfect deflection, it’s a mask that hides a tungsten interior.

King Charles got it wrong when he nicknamed the Duchess of Sussex “tungsten”. Kate is the one made of that.

For sure, Meghan Markle has a certain kind of resiliency, too. But it ain’t in the same league as Kate’s.

Markle knows that, too. With good reason she wants a continent and an ocean between her and Catherine, Princess of Wales.

The Kate worship as seen at R184 is so tedious.

Kate has had a horrible life. Bullied by William, stressed out by her public role - she's smoked heavily for years and still is despite her doctors advising against it.

Love Princess Catherine snd don't care about any personal details

I agree with R181, R182, R183, AND R184.

Yes, she could help people if she shared her illness. But anything revealed can’t be taken back and we don’t know all the circumstances. I think R182’s phrase sums it up perfectly, “She’s not up to it.” And she has her kids to consider. The more she reveals, the more people will speculate about her long term prognosis, which may not be good. I think it’s analogous to the U Penn women swimmers. It would have been nice if they had been brave enough to speak up, but I don’t blame them for not doing so.

R183, everyone I’ve ever known with cancer has pretty much carried on. Not 100%, some took short periods off of work, a mother of several young kids had her husband take over car pool duties for a a few days every month and got a housekeeper in once a week. Another worked at home some days, but still full time and only for a few months. Two long term “living with cancer” patients took on additional responsibilities with cancer charities and fundraising for research. I’ve known people in their 70’s who had surgery for colon cancer and chemotherapy who were up and about shortly after. Maybe not full speed, but what looked like full speed to anyone not living with them. A woman in my office now was wearing scarves and wigs until a few weeks ago, now has a short hairstyle. She’s been doing her job, working hard. One guy was taking a car into work just one or two days a week to maintain his job and insurance and wrap things up. He definitely wasn’t up to speed, but he was doing that just a few weeks before his death. He was going to his kids’ soccer games with oxygen. IOW, every single person had at most very short periods where they dropped out of action, but so short that most people, even colleagues who were direct reports, would not even be aware. Or were literally close to death. Imminent. I’d say they were brave, exceptional people except I don’t know anyone who didn’t approach it that way. So I think that’s a very legitimate criticism.

OTOH, she does seem pretty steely, like R184 says. She’s in a costume every time she appears in public. Her dresses are probably tailored every time she wears them, as she will not tolerate anything that might make her look like she has an ounce of extra flesh on her lean physique. She wears 4” stilettos on cobblestones. If those would look so ridiculous as to call her sanity into question, she’ll wear 4” wedge espadrilles. And if it’s absolutely unavoidable, she will wear flats. Usually sneakers if she has to run in an athletic event or participate in a sailing event. In which case she wears shorts or skin tight pants. A hiking-type outdoor event is knee high tasseled boots with skin tight pants. Full face of make up. You don’t see that anymore in “real life.” Outside of actresses or Kardashian-types or maybe newscasters, no women at the top of their professional game wear heavy eyeshadow anymore. Or visible blush. Or obvious hair extensions. It’s in the service of vanity, but she brings her A-game. And she does NOT slip and give anything away. Ever. That takes discipline. So why does a woman with that much determination and discipline apparently slack off to the degree that she has? I think there are probably reasons, but they could be things nobody has even considered.

Well Meghan can certainly be considered a wisteria woman. But the fact is her basic stupidity won her the booby prize. She actually thought she was marrying a billionaire. But imagine the cold slap in the face to find out she ended up with a dinky millionaire. And she doesn't have a clue as to how to run a business. Wasn't her major at Northwestern something like theater arts which is why most people go there? So she was going to be an adored movie star but she ends up a never ending failure as a business woman. Confessions of a Floundering Female. And by the way she does not have a graduation picture in the Northwestern class yearbook of 2003 the year she claims she graduated. But maybe not everyone has their picture taken for the college yearbook.

R187 it is a tragedy, not something to be admired that the people you know were forced the work through their cancer

Because, OP, people like you will then go yammering on about alleged survival rates, etc. and how she's a goner. Whatever the poor woman has got, whether ovarian cancer or something in her bowel, it ain't good and it's really none of our business. For a clear eyed view of the issue, I suggest you read the article in a recent New Yorker by famed oncologist Siddhartha Mukherjee about cancer survival statistics and how misleading/inaccurate they are. Really, we don't know shit.

I agree with the sentiment, R189. But I can admire how people handle things without thinking it’s great that they have to. These people were up to it physically and probably wanted to maintain their routines. The guy who was very near the end was someone I didn’t know well and it was decades ago. I think his firm was working with him to come up with the situation most favorable to him. Like he wanted to be eligible for a bonus for one more year or something like that. I don’t think he had to be working. But I never knew the details. Certainly, it would be tragic if it was not his choice, 100% agree. And I’m sure there are many people who are in those situations, especially people who are self employed or work off the books. I just haven’t known any. But it’s something I’ve thought through when I’ve employed people for part time home related stuff. The only person I ever paid off the books was someone who had another full time job with benefits, which presumably included some disability. Because I would never want to see that happen.

[quote] she doesn’t want the pity and speculation.

So she goes on tv revealing nothing so people can coconut speculating. Smart.

[quote] Kate has had a horrible life. Bullied by William, stressed out by her public role - she's smoked heavily for years and still is despite her doctors advising against it.

And all things, r185, that if true, actually prove my point at r184.

And no, that isn't "worship". I've been taking a look at Kate since she started dating William. The woman is made of mental and emotional steel.

And when are we going to stop criticizing women, hell, anybody, for climbing like wisteria and going after what they want be that man, woman, thing or all 3?

And yes, I include Markle in that, too. There's a lot to observe negatively about her. I dislike her. But I never found setting her cap on Harry and snagging him as something to criticize.

I swear some of the attitudes here about "climbing" or going after a person you want, for whatever nefarious or good reasons, belong in Ladies Sewing Circle from decades ago.

[quote] It's a well-established fact

Meaning R66 watched Fox News and they told her to believe their propaganda.

Why is it particularly important to you, R192, for the Princess of Wales (“Princess Kate Middleton” to you, no doubt) to announce the type of cancer that she has and what her prognosis is?

What will change in your sad little life if she does that? Will it make you feel better? Schadenfreude, perhaps?

I’m genuinely curious about what motivates people like you.

What motivates the likes of r195 to come to a gossip site to complain about gossip?

R196 perfectly demonstrating that they have no adequate response to a straight forward question.

There are people on these threads who are breathlessly counting down to the death of the Princess of Wales. For them, it’s entertainment. R196 being an example. They obsess over stomas, ratty Korean wigs and colostomy bags under tailored slim fit coat dresses.

Then there are others who wish her, and anyone else dealing with a serious illness, the best, and who respect their privacy.

I know where I’d rather be.

I was going to ask R196 if it was American - obviously - when I realised that it was the KGT.

Everything was explained.

R197 Sweetheart, you obviously haven't been reading any responses on this thread, because multiple people here have said why they think it's important for Kate to reveal more details about her diagnosis.

And honestly, think about it. She's done tons of press and she's been quite candid about her struggle and recovery from cancer. If she's not afraid to talk about her cancer, don't you find it a bit odd that she doesn't talk about what kind of cancer she had? If she did, it would certainly paint a more complete picture of her struggle.

I know you love your Kate like she's come kind of deity, but when it comes down to it, she's a human being subject to the same harsh realities of life like the rest of us. It's a shame she feels she can't be more open about it.

I have no love for King Charles but I deeply respect his desire to keep private what kind of cancer he has. One can show support for all cancer victims without going public about one's own personal specific diagnosis. One must learn to stay vigilant about one's entire body whether it be stomach, prostrate, ovarian, breast, testicular...Hard I know. We all want to think we are going to remain healthy until the day we suddenly keel over and go out like a light.

R200 I still don't understand why Charles was perfectly fine to tell everyone he had surgery for an enlarged prostate, but won't talk about what kind of cancer he has.

The Royals are so strangely provincial about certain things. "Sure, let's talk about my engorged semen producer, but that cancer stuff? How gauche!"

r199's specific diagnosis-

Malady Fetish

R14, she didn't schedule any interview and her comments weren't made during an interview. She was talking at a cancer wellbeing centre to cancer patients. It would have been a bit self-centred of her to make it all about her type of cancer, when the people she was talking to have various types of cancer.

R203 She's spoken many times about her cancer battle.

R202's specific diagnosis -

Middleton Marvel

Not in an interview, r204.

R206 That's irrelevant. She's spoken publicly about it multiple times, cameras rolling. She put it out there.

Yes, she's talking about the experience of having cancer, on her own terms, and that's a good thing.

Yes, she's talking about the experience of having cancer, on her own terms, and that's a good thing.

R209 In front of cameras.

No one is asking for the gory details and specifics about her condition. A simple message: I had colon cancer. If you're under 50, please get checked. That simple statement could save thousands of lives and bring awareness. However, what we learned is that she doesn't care and she only wants to use this to get out of work when she has to do something that doesn't align with her new money upbringing.

Explain how people under 50 can get checked for colon cancer in the UK, r211.

Lol at you scraping the barrel, trying to blame her for people's deaths.

R212 It's an EXAMPLE of something she could've said, ya dolt.

You could replace "colon" with any other type of cancer, sweetie.

God, some of you DLers really need to be taken by the hand and walked through everything, don't you?

R213, please explain how anyone in the UK can get any kind of cancer test. Sounds like this is something you need to be taken by the hand and walked through.

Are you seriously this ignorant?

Do you understand what an "example" is? Here's how one works:

You present a possible statement that Kate could make about her cancer. Since we don't know what kind of cancer she has, you pick, for instance, colon cancer for the simple purpose of having something to place in the blank spaces when you make a statement. Hence the statement, "I had colon cancer. If you're under 50, please get checked."

Again, since we don't know what kind of cancer Kate had, you could very easily replace the statement above with something like this: "I had ovarian cancer. If you have a history of ovarian cancer in your family, or if you have symptoms, please talk to your doctor and get tested." Or it could go like this: "I had breast cancer. If you're a women of 40 years of age or older, please have regular mammograms."

You try it now, R213. Insert a type of cancer and craft a statement. You'll see how an example works firsthand.

An American R201 accusing anyone of being provincial- too funny!

This is why we laugh at you.

R16 is losing her touch. It seems her acolytes have flown the coop. Or something ;)

Ooops r216

R215, just taking your example.

[quote]If you have a history of ovarian cancer in your family, or if you have symptoms, please talk to your doctor and get tested."

If a woman in the UK has a history of ovarian cancer, how can she get tested simply by talking to her doctor? How would she even be able to see her doctor just to ask for a test? I'm talking about the UK context here, not the US. How does it work in the UK, within the NHS system? How do you even present such a statement to your GP in the UK?

R219 sounds like an american or russian trying to put down the NHS.

R219 I live in the UK and don't understand what it is you're trying to get at here. Are you suggesting the NHS refuses to deal with cancer or something?

You're coming across as a very confused lunatic or, if I'm being kind, not very good at making a point.

It's pretty clear r219 knows nothing about NHS or any other nationalised health care. Where might that person come from?

What a bunch of idiots. If anyone points out that it's very difficult to get a GP appointment, let alone one for no specific immediate reason, then they are a Russian troll. If someone points out that you can't just go to your doctor to ask for a cancer test, but can only wait until you are sent a letter from the NHS as part of their screening programmes, which are mostly age specific, then that is putting down the NHS?

So, r220, r221, and r222, when was the last time you had a cancer check up on the NHS?

R221, since you live in the UK, is what r215 describes possible in the UK? Can you simply go to your GP and say "I have a history of ovarian or colon cancer in my family, would it be possible for you to arrange a cancer check up for me"?

Maybe contact in Odessa can tell you. Yes?

Odesa in Ukraine? Why would someone in Ukraine know about GP wait times in the UK or how to get a cancer test in the UK?

I'm asking people in the UK that question, r225. If you're in the UK, then please answer. But, you're not the UK, are you?

Amazing that you got 3 likes in 4 minutes!

Why would someone who claims to not be British know anything about NHP?

How's life in St Pete's?

R224 Well, my mother died young of bowel cancer and I had a colonoscopy and biopsy in my 20s (so no letters had been sent out due to my age) as I was concerned I was showing symptoms. Turned out it was me being a bit paranoid, but my GP and whoever else was involved had taken it seriously.

If anyone just walked into a GP's office in any country in the world and said "Hello I'd like to be tested for any cancers please", eyebrows would be raised. If the patient was more specific and was showing possible symptoms, it's going to be taken seriously. Even on the NHS.

R226 is very invested in what DL liberals are up to, calculating how many likes we get

What kind of person is so worried about what DL LIBERALS are up to?

Who knew that this thread would turn out to be such a hotbed of Russian bots?

Sorry to hear about your mother, r228, but it's a sad indictment that your mother had to die at a young age and you believed you had symptoms for your GP to refer you for a colonoscopy (sounds like they found something if you had a biopsy, hopefully benign polyps). My father died of colon cancer, despite having had obvious symptoms for years, including falling repeatedly, and all his GP did was tell him to take an aspirin. It was only when blood started dripping from his bum that he was taken seriously, but it was too late by then. Like you - and like many whose parents have died from colon cancer - I believed I had symptoms too, including blood from my bum. My GP (not the same as my dad's) didn't send my for a colonoscopy, however, and thankfully I'd just been straining too much on the loo.

You were very lucky to get a colonoscopy, however. The mother of a friend of mine requested one after her sister was diagnosed with colon cancer, which their mother had died from. She was told she'd have to wait two years for an appointment. If she wanted to go private she'd have to pay over £2000. I eventually got a colonoscopy in Greece for 270 euros, with an appointment just a couple of weeks away. In Greece - where they have a good national health service - you can get all sorts of cancer tests done very cheaply by going to a private clinic, you don't even need a referral. If you live there, you can get referrals quite easily from your doctor or any specialist (you might have to pay a small initial fee to visit a specialist without a referral)

[quote]If anyone just walked into a GP's office in any country in the world and said "Hello I'd like to be tested for any cancers please", eyebrows would be raised.

Well, you're kinda proving my point and disproving r215's, who thinks it's easy to get cancer check ups. Perhaps if you have quite heavy symptoms you might get seen to on the NHS (after eventually getting an appointment at your GP and eventually getting an appointment for a test), but you won't get far by saying "I'd like a test for colon or ovarian cancer as I have a family history".

If Catherine had said "make an appointment with your GP for a test if you have symptoms of cancer" then she would have sparked huge controversy, with lots of comments about how it's impossible to get a GP appointment, how you have to wait ages for a test, how she can say that because she's rich and can pay to go private.

In any case, neither Charles nor Catherine had symptoms or even a family history. Their cancers were found incidentally, when they were being treated for something else. The key is to have thorough and frequent cancer screening programmes, and the UK Is seriously lacking in that, with only three cancer screeing programmes (breast, cervical and, in recent years but only for certain ages, bowel cancer). I know for something like heart disease, in Greece, you can get blood tests on their national health service each year, but can get the test done at any state or private provider. If you have high cholesterol, you immediately get a referral for a cardiologist, who you can choose yourself, and there are very many available.

You are used to the NHS, which has a monopoly on health care in the UK and therefore there is a shortage of provision. In many countries with national health services, there is a variety of providers, which results of greater provision of health care and makes it much easier to get tests done even on the national health system or for a pretty low charge if a private provider (who often collaborate with the state service in some countries, e.g. Greece). This is why the idea that one can simply go to a doctor and say "I have a family history of cancer, I would like to get tested" is weird for you. For R215 in the US, it's normal to ask to be tested.

And lol at the loons here, who are the displaying all the characteristics of the true definition of trolls. Yet none of the can answer the question about cancer tests in the UK!

R232 I'm sorry to hear about your dad, and I'm sorry to hear your friend's mother had such a bad experience. In the interest of full disclosure, I've worked both for the NHS and private medical companies, so have experience of it from both sides and my sister is a doctor who's worked for both the NHS and the private sector.

Were I to walk into my NHS GP's office and demand a test for cancer, he's not going to tell me to just fuck off. He's going to ask questions. Your idea about the NHS only taking patients seriously about possible cancers if they've received a screening invitation based on age is laughable.

The private option is not as exorbitantly expensive as it used to be. It's no longer just consultants on Harley Street. You can get a lot of services in local pharmacies these days, and while they're not free at the point of service like the NHS, they're affordable for most if it's something you don't want to wait around for.

I'm happy for you that you got the service you wanted in Greece, but don't really understand what any of that has to do with the NHS or the PoW.

R232 God, what an idiot you are.

[QUOTE] is a tragedy, not something to be admired that the people you know were forced the work through their cancer

Typical of the primitive United States. In the UK, nobody works through cancer treatment. You are allowed to take sick leave from most jobs and still get full pay. All the treatment is free on the NHS.

I'm British. My sister had a lump in her breast so booked an appointment with her GP, who checked the lump and referred her for a hospital appointment with an oncologist the same week. At the hospital she had a biopsy and the lump was cancerous. The NHS has a two week rule that means only two weeks are allowed to elapse between diagnosis of cancer and treatment. She had a course of chemo and is thankfully in remission.

QUOTE] Can you simply go to your GP and say "I have a history of ovarian or colon cancer in my family, would it be possible for you to arrange a cancer check up for me"?

Your GP already knows if you have a history of cancer in the family as you give these details when you join the practice. If applicable, you'll be sent for tests to see if you have inherited any of the gene mutations that make it more likely that you'll develop cancer. This is usually done early on, in your 20s, and you'll then be sent for regular cancer screenings throughout your life.

[quote] Or it's just nobodies business but her own.

Then don’t talk about it. But talking about it without being specific is odd.

R238, really? Do you remember when Kate/the palace didn’t say anything and what kind of rumors sprung up? People had her dead, with the palace keeping the secret. She’s damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t. If she doesn’t want to talk about what kind of cancer she has, she has no obligation to tell us.

They’re walking a fine line… people lost their minds demanding what happened to her, when it was obvious she wanted to fight the cancer privately.

R232 really just needs to admit he misunderstood R211's post.

But no - double down on the ignorance. That always works.

Is it really oir business though?? She has said enough no need to reveal every detail. Speedy recovery to her.

R241 There are many things that are "your business" when you're a private citizen that you have to give up when you become a public figure. And its not like Kate is just some Hollywood movie star. She's a Royal now. That's a whole different level of public figure.

Fuck this. She doesn't have cancer. Precancerous cells were found. She had a few preventive treatments. Most people in this situation only miss a few days of work.

No one else has ever refused to say what type of cancer they have. She could just say intestinal. If that's too embarrassing for her to say, then she shouldn't have taken this role as a royal.

She made it through the state visit.

R243, chemotherapy is not used for precancerous cells. There are much more effective ways to monitor it. Chemo can create life-long problems with the immune system, there is absolutely no need to do it when there are plenty of safer and more effective alternatives. From Google:

“No, Chemotherapy is a cancer treatment primarily used to kill or stop the growth of cancerous cells, not precancerous cells. Precancerous cells, also known as dysplasia or pre-cancers, are abnormal cells that have the potential to become cancerous, but they are not yet cancerous.”

R243, I guess she should go back in time and not marry William, knowing she’d develop cancer later on and have to reveal all. And plenty of celebrities don’t reveal what cancer they have, or if they have it at all.

She is a public figure by choice. Her health is now a matter of state. Maintaining the privacy stance perpetuates the idea that cancer in general, and certain types of cancer in particular, are shameful.

There is a reason Betty Ford was considered a hero when she revealed she had breast cancer. Before that the word “cancer” was whispered.

You may argue that even a person who has decided to be Queen of England has the right to privacy . And I have the right to criticize her for choosing to perpetuate the idea that illness is something to be ashamed of.

R246 she never decided to be “Queen of England” - she married the man who one day may be “King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland”. There hasn’t been a “Queen of England” for over 300 years and that Queen - Queen Anne - was a Queen Regnant, not a Queen Consort. If you’re going to criticise you need to get your facts right otherwise you look a little silly.

England and the United Kingdom are not the same thing.

You say that you have the right to criticise her - why do you think that? You’re some random American - what you think is meaningless in this situation. Sorry to break it to you.

R246 is spot on.

[quote] she never decided to be “Queen of England” - she married the man who one day may be “King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland”. There hasn’t been a “Queen of England” for over 300 years and that Queen - Queen Anne - was a Queen Regnant, not a Queen Consort.

I bet you’re a blast at parties.

r245, the statement you made is not quite correct.

"chemotherapy is not used for precancerous cells. There are much more effective ways to monitor it. Chemo can create life-long problems with the immune system, there is absolutely no need to do it when there are plenty of safer and more effective alternatives."

Some kinds of chemotherapy, such as Fluorouracil topical are prescription medicines used to treat precancerous and early skin cancers. This medication is sometimes used to treat dysplasia in both cervical and anal precancerous situations.

However, I agree that a person wouldn't normally take a chemotherapy oral drug or injection drug for precancerous conditions.

You're forgetting what she did do, which I as someone who battled cancer last year really appreciated. She let people know that it takes a while to get back your feet.

When I was having chemo, people kept asking if I was nauseous. Only in the movies because in real life, there are excellent drugs for that. The thing is, you're weak as hell if you have 12 sessions with a platinum-based drug. She is obviously still recovering, despite someone's observation of coworkers with cancer who got right back to work. Hell, it makes a difference what kind of cancer yo u had, what stage you were, what type of surgery you had, whether you had radiation and what kind of chemo you had and for how long. Also, your age and physical shape.

In short, I think she's performing a service just by doing what she's doing. If you need her to tell you to get a colonoscopy or Pap smear, you're in trouble.

R251 You obviously haven't read much about how completely ignorant most people are about cancer, its symptoms, and regular tests and screenings.

R247 just can't off her "leave Kate alone!" pony carousel.

{252} I don't have to read about it since I lived it. I was ignorant too before I had it. That's why I appreciate Kate speaking to other cancer patients about how difficult recovery from chemo is. I don't expect her to educate the lay public in any depth and it certainly doesn't require her violating her privacy.

Finally I can reply! First of all, my comments about the difficulty of getting tested for cancer in the UK were initially in response to r58, who wrote:

[quote]For some reason, she's a beloved figure; she could help many people. Biden announcing that he had aggressive prostate cancer caused an uptick in men getting checked for the disease. That's a good thing. Use your position for doing something other than standing on a damned balcony and waving to the peasants.

To which I replied that it's not that easy to get cancer tests in the UK - it's not as though you can visit your doctor and say "I heard about the Princess of Wales' cancer or Joe Biden's cancer and would like to get screened as a precautionary measure". R58 said nothing about a family history or symptoms. In the US, it may be possible to go to your doctor and ask for a precautionary cancer test, but that's not possible in the UK except in certain narrow circumstances.

As for symptoms, most people have no idea what cancer symptoms are. All the average person knows is that if you find a lump in your boobs or your testicles or if you have a mole that's gone a bit funny then that could be a sign of cancer. People don't know that feeling tired, dizziness, and falling are symptoms of cancer. They just attribute them to the trials and tribulations of daily life and work. I'm not sure what the Princess of Wales is meant to say - "if you're feeling tired then go to your GP and get tested for cancer"?

As for Biden, he himself never said anything - his office put out a statement saying he had aggressive prostate cancer and there was no mention in this statement about how people should go and get tested. Apparently his last blood test which screened for prostate cancer was in 2014, so he's not really a shining example of having precationary blood tests and screening.

R246 is talking nonsense. "Her health is now a matter of state" is complete bullshit. She's not the head of state, nor is she going to be the head of state, so how is her health a matter of state? Charles is the head of state yet he hasn't revealed precisely which type of cancer he has, yet he is not being attacked in the same way. And nor should he reveal what type of cancer he has, if he does not wish to.

Catherine is not obliged to "reveal" exactly which cancer she had just to feed your appetite for salaciousness, which is your real interest, not public health. Having to go back to an example from half a century ago to prove that Catherine has supposedly failed as a public figure is hardly a point in support of your argument. Another post even blamed Catherine for people's deaths because she hasn't said exactly what cancer she had!

[quote] Finally I can reply!

Was there a problem? Many people here have been complaining about time-outs.

R255 No one cares to read your novels, dear.

R256, yeah, there were time-outs and threads not loading. That got fixed, but it was still difficult to post for a while.

I’m not the OP, but speak for yourself, r257. R255 is spot on. Of course, I’m a nosy bitch who is interested in knowing the details of both of their cancers (I’m retired, too much time on my hands), but if they don’t want to share, I not getting prissy about it. They’re ceremonial figures, whatever they do isn’t affecting anyone’s daily life. Unlike a certain president, whose demented actions are making my stock portfolio go crazy. Not to mention he’s eliminating health care for millions. (Yes, the second one is much more deranged, impactful and utterly sad.) Now, that’s someone whose health is of public interest.

It’s hypocrisy to say everyone must bow to her and pay for her to live in palaces and it is she who greets visiting heads of state on behalf of the nation but that as a “ceremonial figure” she has no obligations to consider the public good when making decisions about what to reveal and what to keep private. You want the privilege, you take the responsibility too.

R259 Seems like those ceremonial figures are definitely affecting your daily life, being as you have to post manifestos on here abut them.

R261, what can I say? I’m retired and luckily well off, and I love me some gossip. But damn, a lot of people on here are way too sensitive about people who, in the end, matter not an iota.

Btw, I don’t bow to royals. They’re just fun to gossip about, it’s raining here so no pool today. But sure, my whole life revolves the royals. I can’t get enough! 🙄🙄🙄

I don’t bow to royals either because I don’t mingle with them. If you met her, you’d be expected to bow. And you would.

R262 You most certainly seem sensitive about Ms. Kate, as you're compelled to pen a biography about her every time someone posts something about her you don't like.

[quote] I'm retired and luckily well off...

I'll never understand why people post this ridiculous shit, as if bragging about money gives them some pass to be ignorant blowhards.

No one is expected to bow or curtsey, r263.

[quote]I don’t bow to royals either because I don’t mingle with them.

What if you did something amazing and were awarded an honour?

Shall we consult Debrett’s?

ON BEING PRESENTED TO OTHER MEMBERS OF THE ROYAL FAMILY

Upon being presented and on leaving, men should bow and women curtsy. The bow is an inclination of the head, the curtsy is a discreet movement, with a slow rise, maintaining eye contact. It is acceptable, but less usual, to shake hands without bowing or curtsying, especially with younger members of the Royal Family in less formal circumstances. Check with their staff for guidance.

Why should we consult Debrett's, r288? It's not some kind of official instruction that must be followed on pain of ostracisation when meeting members of the royal family.

R269 doesn't like it when she's proven wrong.

The assertion was “no one is expected to bow,” not “they won’t banish you if you don’t.”

Does William have to bow to Camilla?

Do the royals have NHS benefits? I know they go to a private hospital of some kind. It looks expensive. How does that work? Honest question, not abuse from the colonies.

R271 Best to quit while you're behind, dear.

Clueless American queens are obsessed with bowing and curtseying - nobody is expected to do either. It’s a personal choice.

People only bow/curtsy at official presentations, and it's not obligatory. People like to do it though because it makes them feel part of the tradition and the pageantry. Usually in these contexts the bower/curtsyer is themselves being honoured or awarded something or being presented to the royal for some great thing they've done, so the opportunity to bow/curtsy is actually part of the special occasion for them, and one of the things that makes it special. When royals do walkabouts or visit schools and hospitals, etc., people don't bow or curtsy to them.

I love the way R275 gets fact-checked, then tries to wordsmith and waffle her way out of it.

Pam Bondi would love to have you on her staff.

You’re making no sense, R277 - try again, but in English, this time.

R278 And she just keeps going...

Kate was at the Ladies' Final at Wimbledon today, congratulating the winner and gracefully acknowledging the loser. [And boy, what a loser! The Russian-American anchor baby -- why don't they ever kick out the white ones?-- lost 6-0, 6-0! One of the most horrible and boring tennis finals I have ever seen.]

Anyway, Kate looked gorgeous and stunning (and brave!) like she always does. You would never know she had/had cancer.

And neither of the finalists curtsied! I imagine they're not required to, since one is American and the other was Polish, but still...

I find it interesting that she cancels on her real duties and anything involving William, but she can show up at Wimbledon.

Lol, which "real' duties did she cancel on, r281? I guess you missed her welcoming Macron and Brigitte alongside William and her presence at the State banquet, next to Macron.

Wimbledon is her real duty - she is Patron of the All England Lawn Tennis and Croquet Club, which runs the Wimbledon championships. That's why she presents the trophies.

Foreign nationals are not expected to bow/curtsy. In the UK it is increasingly common for people not to observe it. Even the late Queen was pretty relaxed about it.

Thanks, R283. It was just so noticeable when the winner and the runner-up went up to Kate they didn't know what to do with their hands or feet. It's like they were completely lost when they stood before her.

A simple curtsy would have solved that problem completely. Instead, they looked too klutzy to ever have won on any tennis court.

It’s like Middleton just wants attention, so she keeps drawing this out. One scrap of info at a time.

According to Hello!, from when the Queen was still alive.

[quote]The long-standing tradition of centre court players bowing or curtseying to spectators in the royal box was discontinued in 2003 by the Duke of Kent, president of the club; the only exception is when the Queen or Prince Charles attends.

The Queen only went to Wimbledon four times and Charles rarely goes. Presumably now it will be if the King or William attend.

The Betty Ford example at R246 is profound.

When she was diagnosed with breast cancer in 1974, cancer was still considered a death sentence, and neither cancer nor breast cancer was openly spoken about.

Not only did Betty say she had been diagnosed with breast cancer but that it involved four lymph nodes, which was pretty grim. She also disclosed that she was taking an early chemo drug in pill form (L-PAM).

So many women rushed to get screenings that diagnoses of breast cancer rose 15% in the next year.

Betty put aside vanity and just DGAF about "how things are done" and ghoulish speculation. She just wanted to do some good. And she did. These disclosures can save lives by promoting awareness and research. The survival rate for Betty's type of breast cancer has gone from ~60% to 90%. And Betty lived to the ripe old age of 93.

Other than the smoking and the drinking, Kate is no Betty Ford.

Susan Komen's foundation and all those pink ribbons had a lot more to do with raising awareness of breast cancer and raising funds for research.

Anal cancer Which is probably no problem for her since she's been dealing with that pain in the ass Meghan for years

She needs to start talking about it - openly, honestly, without shame - so her kids aren't thrown for a loop when she drops dead.

The gray under her eyes looks bad. She’s so extremely thin. It’s sad.

What’s sad is she knows her kids are going to be raised by Rose Hanbury.

She is no doubt following protocol. She isn’t a celebrity, she is going to be Queen. Her life is filled with following rules, and she isn’t out to rock the boat.

You still can't spell "Chomondeley", can you, R293?

Keep fantasising.

She is thin. I thought I saw an outline of the colostomy bag, poor thing. I guess now that she's made this appearance we won't see her again until Christmas.

R296 haven’t you got to prepare for school tomorrow?

[quote] She is no doubt following protocol. She isn’t a celebrity, she is going to be Queen.

She is a celebrity.

She is a celebrity.

Not in the American sense.

She’s a celebrity in the British sense too.

No, she doesn’t need to sell herself for attention. She already has it. And I’m not a monarchist.

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Telling the specifics to her family has nothing to do with telling the public.

Short sleeve dresses do Kate no favors, a bracelet sleeve would be much more flattering.

I'm not speaking out against the BRF on here again. I got an FF timeout the last time I did.

Fair warning to all of you. Someone's watching and itching to banish you!

[quote]R302 Telling the specifics to her family has nothing to do with telling the public.

But if she is not public with the disclosures, we have no assurances she’s been open and honest with her family, at all.

Whatever she says to those kids is her business.

[quote] No, she doesn’t need to sell herself for attention. She already has it. And I’m not a monarchist.

Royals definitely are in the business of image making. They are a personification of the nation.

They are celebrities. That’s their point.

Who picks up the slack for Kate's "wifely duties" while she gets well, because you know William is not going without.

[quote]R308 Who picks up the slack for Kate's "wifely duties"

She hasn’t been discussed in a while, but The Hanbury Woman.

(Rose is reportedly adept at pegging, which is one thing Wills finds particularly attractive about her.)

You are such a fucking bore, R309. And you still can't spell or pronounce "Cholmondeley".

None of us are entitled to know what kind she had. I'm just very happy for her that she survived it. It's nothing to joke about.

[QUOTE] Thanks, [R283]. It was just so noticeable when the winner and the runner-up went up to Kate they didn't know what to do with their hands or feet. It's like they were completely lost when they stood before her. A simple curtsy would have solved that problem completely. Instead, they looked too klutzy to ever have won on any tennis court.

Why should they curtsey to talentless Kate Middleton who has never won a tennis tournament in her life? Someone like Serena Williams or Andy Murray should present the trophies.

I love Catherine's short sleeved dressy tops and flowy skirts for the summer. It's been hot in the UK.

My colon cancer coincided with Kate's cancer last year. I am still getting over the effects of chemo. Monitoring my health, healthy eating, exercise are now a huge part of my life. Those coworkers who are pretending everything is normal are acting out of economic necessity.

I would cut her a lot of slack. Get that baseline colonoscopy and familiarize yourself with the symptoms.

Here's the standard caution for colon cancer: symptoms include changes in bowel habits (like diarrhea or constipation), blood in the stool, persistent abdominal pain, and unexplained weight loss. Many people with colon cancer don't experience symptoms, especially in the early stages. Regular screening is crucial for early detection.

Here's the standard caution for ovarian cancer: Common signs include persistent bloating, feeling full quickly, pelvic or abdominal pain, and changes in urinary or bowel habits. Other symptoms may include unexplained weight loss or gain, fatigue, and back pain.

R314 wishing you well in your recovery.

They don't actually have to curtsy to the Princess of Wales r312, but the reason she gives the trophies out is because she is the Patron of the All England Lawn Tennis and Croquet Club, which organises the Wimbledon Championships. The Club has long had a royal connection, and that is part of the history and tradition that makes Wimbledon the most prestigious and special of all the Grand Slams.

Good luck, r314!

Did you get banned just for that, R304?

What did you say, R304? Did you making a nasty C-word reference?

One of the things I notice from following cancer boards is the difficulty that young people and uninsured people have in getting diagnostic colon cancer procedures. Ovarian cancer is inevitably only discovered when it's advanced and the survival role is grim. The only reliable diagnostic is biopsy.

We all have to take responsibility for our health. I let my abdominal pains and assorted symptoms fester for at least a year and did not get a colonoscopy until I was stage 3. Advocate for yourself and do everything you can to find resources. They're out there.

Kate can't do it for you.

R320 But she, like you just did, can help build awareness.

Kate needs to raise Ass Cancer Awareness.

She probably got it via a “back door delivery” of HPV.

She could help a lot of people, and keep national healthcare spending down, if she became the face of advocating for condom use during anal sex.

It’s the only thing that would dent royal appeal on DL.

I didn’t know that you get get banned from this site.

[QUOTE] They don't actually have to curtsy to the Princess of Wales [R312], but the reason she gives the trophies out is because she is the Patron of the All England Lawn Tennis and Croquet Club, which organises the Wimbledon Championships. The Club has long had a royal connection, and that is part of the history and tradition that makes Wimbledon the most prestigious and special of all the Grand Slam

Oh, do fuck off. You sound so ridiculous simpering over these parasites.

R325, if you do a search for "what makes Wimbledon special", pretty much every result will point to the royal connection as one of the reasons. But you just keep on being angry and bitter and not getting it.

R321, Catherine is one of the most high-profile people in the world in the past year or so to have cancer, to talk about cancer and the difficulties of facing cancer, about the emotional rollercoaster of having cancer, and all in the public eye with an unbearable level of media attention and social media vitriol. The idea that she's not doing anything to raise awareness of it is complete bullshit.

People who say "she must say what type of cancer she has otherwise she is not raising awareness about cancer" are the same idiots who in the first half of 2024 were insisting that she must make a public appearance and tell the world how she is, the same online mobs who were spewing all sorts of insidious garbage about what had happaned to her.

I guess Carlos Alcaraz is another one whom r325 would accuse of "simpering over these parasites".

[quote]"I don't want to leave without saying, I just have to say thank you, you know, to the King of Spain [for] coming here for support. For me, it's just an honor having you in the stands supporting, flying here to watch the final. So I'm just really grateful. And thank you very much for coming," the 22 year old said after the match, while Felipe smiled and clapped.

R327 She's barely talked about it, and when does, she cloaks it in so much mystery that you'd think she'd had some kind of new, mysterious strain of the disease. She's also had access to the best of the best when it comes to cancer care and recovery, unlike most people who get a cancer diagnosis.

Oh, dear - Kate looks as if she only has a few months left to live in these Wimbledon photos. She's skeletal. Probably only weighs seven stone now, whereas before her illness she was about eight and a half stone.

This is a horrible thread.

Let's pretend that she had a bilateral mastectomy.

What right do you think you have to know that?

That she is a public figure and could help women with breast cancer awareness?

Sorry, she is a mother of three young children. She needs to be a mother first.

She should not be reduced to public entertainment.

This is a horrible thread.

R331 Takes to her fainting couch.

No, r332, I take my high dudgeon to DL.

It seems there are people on here who actually want Kate to die. This site has become home to strung out meth addicts.

A lot of people, both here and abroad, just don’t like the nepo baby royals.

[QUOTE] This site has become home to strung out meth addicts

Kate looks like a skeletal strung out meth addict these days.

Needs more marmalade

Yeeeeeessssuh!

I’ve gone back and forth re whether Kate is at a healthy weight… I totally get the desire to be very thin in today’s hyper media world. I mean, look at Meghan Markle, who’s hardly even close to being overweight, being raked over the coals when she didn’t lose her baby weight quickly enough. People still call her Fat Markle.

Kate has been skinny for a long time but I never thought she looked unhealthy. But I have to say, in the pics at r330, Kate looks pretty unhealthy. If the camera adds 10 lbs, she looks like she’s around 100 lbs.

R336, that’s unkind. It’s not like she’s a druggie. She looks unwell, which is pretty sad actually.

I was more than a little shocked at the r330 pic. If not for her other health problems I might have thought eating disorder. Maybe some of us are being too hard on her.

Kate needs to come out publicly about her weight. She could help a lot of people.

I don’t see the problem.

Kate should be stripped and weighed in the public square, so the public KNOWS.

[QUOTE] This is a horrible thread

MARY, R331!

Each kid has a morning, afternoon, evening, and overnight governess. She's not Kate in the suburbs raising kids, she's a woman with a multiple staff members to raise those children for her. She brings them out for photo ops, but she's not doing the real heavy lifting - and that's okay. I will hand it to her, how she's convinced a bunch of people that she's just like them. No she's not. Out of all those kids, Louis is my favorite. He seems like a good time. The oldest one still looks like Louie Anderson, and Charlotte is shaping up to be the typical middle child.

There are sick fucks on these threads who cloak their hatred for her under the pretence of concern. What they really want is for her to either die a painful death, be revealed that she's fitted with a colostomy bag (all evidence with the closest of tailored dresses to the contrary). for her wigs/extensions/falls to fall off during a public engagement and / or that William leaves her for the Marchioness of Cholmondeley who they are convinced fucks him up the arse regularly.

They're either bitter old queens who have never forgiven her for capturing the golden prince years ago (his baldness and general aging since then notwithstanding) or obese fraus and women of a particular demographic who are obsessed with Meghan Markle and were convinced that she would be the first woman of color (not very much color, though) to be Queen once Harry was somehow crowned King.

For the latter two groups especially, Kate's slimness, beauty, wealth and just the one father of her three children are particularly triggering.

The fat fraus are mostly refugees from Lipstick Alley and the old queens are rusted on DL members of decades' standing with nothing much in their lives than to wish a horrible death on someone who they will never know and who will never know them.

Ypu're all a bit fucking tragic, aren't you?

R346, which one are you? Seeing as you’re on here too.

The world is rarely black and white, R347. Nice attempt at cleverness, though!

I have a reliable source who says it was cancer of the appendix.

[quote] There are sick fucks on these threads who cloak their hatred for her under the pretence of concern. What they really want is for her to either die a painful death…

Mary!

HATE her? They don’t KNOW her.

R346 decided to break out her hood tonight. Didn't even try to hide it a little bit.

Not only her hood. Her gigantic underpants went down when she showed her elephantine ass, yet again.

I hope she keeps posting. Any laugh is a gift.

I just think it’s strange she’s so tight lipped about it all. It’s like she’s covering something up.

The self-righteous indignant scolding by the Kate worshippers is so weird. I bet you don’t defend anybody you actually know like that. Calm down, Kate never heard of Data Lounge. She’ll never know.

R345 you are talking complete crap, this is not the 1950’s. Do you really believe that there are 12 governesses working around the clock. Kate drives her kids to school every morning, when she was having chemo her mother drove the car with Kate beside her. Everyone knows this, and the media never take pictures of this. Kate and William have the bare minimum of staff at their home, they don’t want their kids growing up surrounded by staff 24/7. They don’t even have a cook prepare their dinner at their home, they cook themselves.

Do some fucking research before talking complete bollocks you idiot.

Why is it so important for some of the Americans on here to demand to know Kate's full medical details when the majority of citizens of the UK and the Commonwealth realms and republics aren't demanding that she share these?

I think that I know why. Americans see her as a celebrity who is expected to overshare everything as American celebrities often do. Other people from other countries know that she is a public figure and as such is not obliged. There is a difference between being a public figure and being a celebrity which is shown up by American celebrity "culture".

But even if not so - Kate as Princess of Wales or even one day as Queen has no constitutional significance. King Charles as Head of State does have a constitutionally identified role and yet I don't see people on here shrieking at him for not divulging the type of cancer that he has. Just look at your own embarrassingly abysmal Head of State who the majority of your voting countrymen elected in November - why aren't you screaming for the truth about Trump's health?

Not that I expect any of you lunatics to look at this sensibly - keep planning for your hoped for Princess of Wales's funeral when you get all your girlfriends around for G&Ts and choose your most elaborate black hats. Because that's what it's all about, right?

R355 Uh-huh. And I bet she churns her own butter and cleans the Palace all by herself, too.

Nobody said that, R357 - she's a very rich woman. You sound more than a little jealous - that's the problem, right?

Jealousy is very unhealthy - especially for someone who you don't know. You should get some help with that.

As a British Princess she has no impact on your American life. Why do you care and why do you think that your American opinion matters anyway?

R358 Are you okay? Are you Kate?

So not at all clever, R359. I'd ask if that's all that you've got but it's sadly obvious that it is.

[quote] You sound more than a little jealous - that's the problem, right?

Must you rely on taunts from the eighth grade?

Yep - I thought so.

R360 You seem quite sensitive. Have you had a cancer screening recently?

I think we Americans have been desensitized by Trump including those of us who oppose him with every breath that's in us. I don't know why else anyone would think a cancer survivor isn't doing enough or disclosing enough. A stage 4 friend commented to me the other day hat she pushes through her exhaustion because she doesn't want to give up on her life. Imagine doing that with three kids and the eyes of the nation upon you. Even if you don't like her, have a little compassion for a 40-year-old who almost lost her life last year and is not yet out of the woods.

R364 I don't know where you're getting the impression people don't have compassion for Kate. They simply want her to be more upfront and honest about what she's battling.

If you're compassionate, you don't place those kinds of demands on a cancer patient. You give her the space to heal and come back on her own terms.

R366 No one is "placing demands" on her. They're just asking her to be more candid.

My, you're full of drama.

Asking her to disclose her medical history is placing a demand. You can keep coming up with euphemisms for what you're doing but it doesn't change anything.

R368 No, honey. Taking a sign that says "release your medical records!" and banging on the Palace door is placing a demand.

Asking her to talk more about what she went through is a request.

Are you one of Kate's ladies in waiting? You seem so strangely invested in this topic.

I'm invested because I'm a cancer survivor. I try to educate people on the illness but some people are resolute in their ignorance. Asking her to disclose the kind of cancer she had, the purpose of this thread, is intrusive. Calling it her duty is a demand. I could care less about the royal family.

I think you have a preconceived idea of how she should act, shaped by Betty Ford. That type of emotional voyeurism, later cultivated by Oprah, is 50 years old and really outdated because there's no need for it. Reddit will tell you how it feels. AI will tell you the symptoms. If you have any close friends who have had cancer, sit down with them and be prepared to listen.

R370 I'm a cancer survivor, too. All the more reason for her to speak openly about it.

You definitely care about the royal family. You're absolutely abnormally over the top defending Kate.

As Lisa Rinna would say, "own it."

Lisa Rinna? We're on different planets. Buhbye

R372 Aaaaaw, leaving so soon? Rats!

Kate has no constitutional role, but she does have a role as a symbol and an influencer. She hides behind those children and some of you eat it up. My favorite being they don't have a staff. Even if you don't believe that William is fucking around on her, you can't be so naive that you believe they don't have staff for everything, including childcare.

No way is William getting regular sex from his frail, prematurely aged wife. I wonder how many mistresses he has ?

(suddenly alert)

[italic]What?

Prince Louis' maddest moments compiled. He's aggressive and definitely got some developmental issue. Turning round in his seat and hitting a girl behind him? He looks manic.

'And has definitely got some developmental issue' before I get oh-deared by a Kate stan.

[quote]R378 And has definitely got some developmental issue

Well, Louis has never known a time when his mother wasn’t sick - either with the cancer or her starvation/eating disorder. Kids definitely pick up on that stuff.

I hope he doesn’t eroticize it, like his father has. It’s so strange that Wills married a woman who’s into starvation when that’s what he saw his own mother do.

Ick!

Imagine if she was a big fat smelly pig like the typical UK frauen who post here defending her.

These these threads would be much more fun.

But she isn't. Poor thing looks drawn . I truly hope she pulls through but it does not look good.

She has always been slim - sorry frauen - I know how that triggers you. Look at her Middleton family - they are all slim and I'd suggest fairly disciplined about diet and exercise (again, triggering for some of you big gals of either sex). She is now thin, being in recovery from a slight medical issue called "cancer".

Keep wishing for her death all that you ghouls want. Even if she regains some weight I know that you will spend the rest of her life (or yours which will inevitably be shorter) licking your greasy lips at the prospect of a recurrence and then obsessing about her funeral. Then you can focus in on Charlotte, you bunch of misogynists (you'll need to look that word up, no doubt).

In the meantime, for as long as that takes, she appears to have a grounded immediate and extended family life (triggering), access to a number of beautiful houses in beautiful parts of the country (triggering), no money worries at all, a role that she seems to find rewarding, winter holidays on Mustique or at her brother-in-law's family's hotel on Eden Roc, supportive staff and an amazing wardrobe (all triggering).

It's easy to see why you hate her, less easy to understand the sociopathy behind the hatred. You are nothing to her.

Appendix cancer is rising among the youngs.

It's essentially colon cancer. (Appendicitis is caused by shit getting trapped in the appendix and causing inflammation.)

Whatever she has, I can't imagine being Princess of Wales — your whole job is to be a public service announcement, and the pay is that you live in great luxury — and playing coy instead of trying to save some lives.

Does Kate have the Slimmers Disease?

Agreed. She never had to disclose she had cancer (she could have just said she was recovering from her surgery). She never had to talk about how hard it was to have cancer. But she chose to do both, so should have expected scrutiny of her refusal to disclose what type of cancer she had, especially when it'd be expected that the future queen would fulfill the public service element of such disclosure as mentioned here - 'bringing attention to' screening measures for, and/or destigmatizing, such cancer.

Her choices are especially awful if it's indeed appendix cancer which is rising among young people and there's not yet a lot of awareness about it.

There are a lot of people on this thread who just hate women, it’s that simple. They are the kind of cliched limp wristed obese homo’s who call women fish. They are in their element with threads like this one. They are lonely, bitter and unhappy.

R381, no one wants her to die, and if they do, block them and move on. But stop claiming that just because we’re talking about her and speculating on the severity of her illness. She’s one of the most recognized women in the world, and she has cancer and is frankly looking sickly. Did you expect people to not talk about it? Do you even know what social media is? I would hope so, here you are.

This is a gossip site, no one is off limits, especially if they’re as well known as Kate. But very few posters on here have been unkind.

R385, there are certainly trolls on this site, but stop painting everyone with that brush. DL is exactly like pretty much most social media sites—there are trolls and then there are the rest of us. The trolls are obvious, block them and move on.

I never thought I'd see a DL thread get so repetitive.

R385 Hortense has entered the conversation.

[quote] Prince Louis' maddest moments compiled. He's aggressive and definitely got some developmental issue. Turning round in his seat and hitting a girl behind him? He looks manic.

He seems entertaining in the “but I’m glad he’s not my kid” way. Charlotte is a scold, she was having none of it, she seems like the sort of child who would tell the teacher that you stuck your tongue out at her in class.

I

R386 I understand a lot of why you say what you say even if I don't agree with it, but the one thing that I just don't understand in the torrent of British Royal fascination from so many Americans on here, is why any of you think that your need to know amounts to anything.

Yes, this is a gossip site (I've been here for 15 years so I know the drill) but she is a public figure, not a celebrity (naturally I'll get howled down for that) and there is a difference. The only people who have any claim on her other than her family and friends are the people of the UK and of the other Commonwealth realms and I don't see much of that going on here.

The most indignant posters demanding to know her diagnosis are Americans. She is Princess of Wales, a Princess of the UKGBNI and will possibly one day be the wife of the Head of State of the UKGBNI and other places like Canada, NZ, Australia etc. She's not Princess of California (there's a candidate in Montecito desperate for that title!).

The rest of us are just generally getting on with our lives, wishing her well, happy to see her at Trooping and Wimbledon and not having some histrionic need to know her medical details.

And I know that this post will make absolutely no difference to the frenzy on the DL grasping for details, so carry on, I guess.

R390, you said it yourself, this is a gossip site and people want to know what’s up with her. Btw, a public figure is a celebrity too, in this case Kate is very much a celebrity. Google: “A celebrity is a person whose name, image and persona are extensively recognized beyond their immediate professional domain, attracting public fascination and media attention.” She may not choose to be one, but by definition, she is, and there is huge public interest in her whether she—or you—likes it or not. Especially when she appears in public and doesn’t look well.

It’s not about “laying claim” on her, some people think if she were more forthcoming about what kind of cancer she has, it might help people to get more screening for it. I actually disagree, I don’t think she needs to tell anyone what kind of cancer she has, she owes no one that information.

I do wish her well, she’s got three little kids at home.

She's not a celebrity, she is the wife of the next Head of State. Too difficult to understabd, I guess.

R392 A celebrity is a person whose name, image and persona are extensively recognized beyond their immediate professional domain, attracting public fascination and media attention.

That's not too difficult to understabd (to use your spelling), I guess.

R392, you seem to think people have a choice in being a celebrity. Sometimes they dont.

[quote]she’s got three little kids at home.

I don't find that to be a compelling argument for grace. She is a literal princess. Feel sorry for the single mom with little kids who gets cancer. Feel badly for any woman, without crowns at her disposal; but a princess? No, I'm good. I don't want her to die, but she gets to be talked about. She chose this.

R395, no one gives a shit what you think, but I doubt you genuinely give a shit about a single mum with 3 little kids who gets cancer.

R396 What is your problem? You can't seem to acknowledge your arguments are flimsy at best.

R395, of course we feel compassion for the single mom that gets cancer. It doesn’t negate feeling sad for Kate as well. Cancer is the great equalizer. Plenty of people with untold wealth have died from cancer. Plenty of poor people too.

It’s the secretiveness that bothers me.

There’s something almost cunning about it.

Kate used to be skinny in a fashion model way but now she's skinny in a cancer patient way

Harry must be thanking his lucky stars for his healthy wife.

Thirty years ago people would saying HIV.

It’s so fucking obnoxious. It’s somewhat irritating if not offensive.

Her evasiveness?

Wow r402. I never, ever found anyone with cancer who played games like you’re implying. Can you explain what you meant? Maybe I got it wrong?

For "Celebrity versus Public Figure" read "USA versus Everywhere Else".

Do that and all is explained.

I'm sure Kate will be front and center when Trump is in town. She will probably even insist she be seated next to him.

^^ is she that desperate to get out of the marriage??

OMG

If you sell gossip magazines, you’re a celebrity.

Kate is a huge, globally famous A list celebrity. Another A lister, Angelina Jolie, talked in detail about her breast cancer but snooty Kate thinks she's above it. She just wants to take the money and do the occasional appearance at exciting events like the Wimbledon final.

Jolie neer had breast cancer. She had the gene. She decided to undergo elective double mastectomy and ovary removal so she wouldn't develop female organ related cancer.

R409 You're comparing the Princess of Wales with Angelina Jolie? Interesting.

[QUOTE]You're comparing the Princess of Wales with Angelina Jolie?

I'm not R409, but I can see some similarities. Reckless partiers in their 20s, stalking the guy they want. Planting vicious things in the press about the other women the men they wanted were involved with.

Some links would be really helpful, thanks R412 - "Reckless partiers"? "Stalking"? "Planting vicious things"?

You sound like a fat basic suburban American scolding frau, resentful at her lot in life and jealous of someone thinner, richer and more famous than you.

But I'm sure that I got that wrong.

R412 Your posting history makes for some interesting reading - your obsession with the Princess of Wales and your hope that she's dying is positively sociopathic.

[QUOTE] Jolie never had breast cancer. She had the gene. She decided to undergo elective double mastectomy and ovary removal so she wouldn't develop female organ related cancer.

And talked about the operations openly and honestly so her experience would help other women. Selfish Kate would have kept that a secret.

[QUOTE] You're comparing the Princess of Wales with Angelina Jolie?

Yes. Kate comes off much worse in the comparison.

Angelina: talented actor who has been earning her own money since she was 18

Kate: talentless parasite who is funded by the British tax payers. Calls herself the Princess of Wales despite not visiting that country in the past decade

[QUOTE] You're comparing the Princess of Wales with Angelina Jolie?

You're a pathetic frau who's impressed by titles.

[quote][R412] Your posting history makes for some interesting reading - your obsession with the Princess of Wales and your hope that she's dying is positively sociopathic.

I decided to review my posts after your comment. I've posted entirely too much in this silly thread. However, the one consistent theme in my posts is that I do not find Princess William to be a particularly sympathetic or compelling figure based on what she puts out there as a public figure. I find her to be a liar and completely fake. The whole I'm a working mom just like you shtick is eye-rolling and she would have been eviscerated on old school Datalounge. In none of those posts have I wished her death. Why would I wish for a stranger's death?

Finally, as I said in another post, I do not believe she is in remission. I believe her illness is far more serious than she has revealed, and while I do not believe she should have to give every gory detail of her illness, she could use this to increase awareness and encourage people to get check-ups.

[quote] Calls herself the Princess of Wales despite not visiting that country in the past decade

Ok, that’s legitimately funny.

Legitimately stupid is more accurate. They were there at least twice tbis year.

r418 So, your decision on whether or not to seek medical care for any unusual symptoms rests on whether the Princess of Wales has publicized it?

The only people who owe us any info on their health are government officials like Dump. That’s it. And of course, the one person you can’t get a straight answer about is Dump.

I just don’t get what the secret is regarding her cancer. It will never make sense to me. They must be guilty about being whores or something. Again this secret will never make sense but so much about this genetic lottery family doesn’t make sense so it tracks.

Carry on wandering around woooondering then

[quote]R417 You're a pathetic frau who's impressed by titles.

I thought this said, “You're a pathetic frau who's impressed by [bold][italic]titties[bold].”

! ! !

The lunatic is running rampant on this thread again.

^ projection

R426, Just block it. I can tell it's having a field day by all the gaps in the thread.

The British sense of entitlement on this thread is pretty funny, especially given the decades old UK notorious tabloid press doing everything it could to give celebrity status to the Royals.

Your country asked for it. Too much now?

Too bad. So sad.

Good Lord, she looks old! 43?! More like 73.

[quote] The only people who owe us any info on their health are government officials like Dump. That’s it. And of course, the one person you can’t get a straight answer about is Dump.

True enough. But we have been told she is a government official and not a celebrity. She will be Queen one day, if she lives that long.

R414 makes me laugh. Thanks for the entertainment.

That’s why William has the roving eye. Wifey’s old before her time.