Pollster - Less than half of Americans know anything about the 'Big Beautiful Bill', 8% aware of medicaid cuts

I got the premise reversed in the title, I'll accept the shame

It's okay. I think most understand.

It wouldn’t be different if you polled the Congress and the Senste.

It is because Murdoch/Marketing/Analytics is talking about Biden, Biden, Biden and not any of the horrible shit the Republicans are doing.

Not lying, FILTERING and diverting.

🚨BREAKING: If Republicans vote to pass this bill they are TOAST in the next election. According to the latest polls, this is the most unpopular legislation maybe ever:

"Washington Post, -19 points, Fox News -21 points.”

The Help/Hurt chart at 2:30 or so of the video was confusing. And I'm no Trump supporter in any way. I understand the approval rating of the BBB, but I don't understand the comparison to Trump's first agenda. What, specifically, are they referring to within his first term (2017-2021)?

R5, if Republicans pass this bill, there will be no midterms.

Trump voters fucked around and now they will find out!

We can blame a lot of this on bad education (which is why Republicans have fought to defund education for decades) but at a certain point this ignorance is willful. We have more global access to information than we have at any point in history. If Americans choose to not pay attention to anything but Fox News until their SNAP checks stop coming, their tax bill goes up, the goods at Walmart are 300% up in price due to tariffs, and FEMA is not there to help them with disaster relief, that is on them and I won’t be sorry for any Republican voter, or any non-voter, who is shocked when it happens.

I'm sure FOX News coverage has been abysmal, but also, Trump has been very successful in tiring people out with his shit. It's been six months of a new crisis every damn day and some people have tuned out to maintain their sanity.

I can't wait until they get a "big, beautiful" surprise when they go to the ER and are presented with a four-figure bill for a cut finger.

I can honestly say I have no idea what’s in it other than the detractors say there’s some impact on Medicaid. That’s all I know about it. However, I’m confident that my knowledge of it will have no impact on what’s in it or whether or not it passes.

Americans on whole as dumb as dirt.

The quaint idea of more than a few here that civics should be taught in school is fucking laughable at this stage.

Civic should be taught to members of Congress! And maybe ethics too.

[quote] BREAKING: If Republicans vote to pass this bill they are TOAST in the next election

Sure, Jan.

[quote] Americans choose to not pay attention to anything but Fox News until their SNAP checks stop coming

Their what?

Fox basically isn't covering it at all, except to say that a vote is happening. They know the details are unpopular so they'd rather help Trump by not publicizing what's in the bill.

But even at the other networks I feel like they're more interested in asking "But did you know *Zohran* is a *socialist*?" than in talking about the budget bill.

[Quote] If Republicans vote to pass this bill they are TOAST in the next election. According to the latest polls, this is the most unpopular legislation maybe ever

I’m sure the GOP will try to convince everyone that trans kids are a bigger problem

Sure your kids will be dying of measles, malnutrition and other preventable disease, and you will not even be able to afford the one doll Trump promised you. But at least they will be banned from getting gender affirmative health care!

r20, THEY'RE EATING THE DOGS!

Stupid fucking Americans.

Too eager to see what's on Netflix tonight or scroll endlessly on Tik Tok that absorb even the headlines of the news that greatly affect them morally, ethically and financially. They're useless.

[quote] Stupid fucking Americans. Too eager to see what's on Netflix tonight or scroll endlessly on Tik Tok that absorb even the headlines of the news that greatly affect them morally, ethically and financially.

That’s not correct. All the discussions and revisions that are currently happening have no impact on Americans. It will have impact only if and when it is signed into law. Many people are not obsessed with the current status of the minutiae, the back and forth, the machinations of politics and spend their time living their life until something actually of importance happens.

No surprises here. This is what happens when you defund public schools for decades and import (from Australia) a 24/7 fascist propaganda machine, and end the Fairness Doctrine.

Behold the Antichrist.

[quote] too eager to see what's on Netflix tonight or scroll endlessly on TikTok than absorbing even the headlines of the news that greatly affect them morally, ethically, and financially. They're useless.

The brief article below might clarify it. Essentially, Americans trust the media and don’t distinguish between sources.

I knew the TikTok trend of animal Olympics is AI-generated. I love this stuff and found a hippo doing rhythmic gymnastics. She was doing the ribbon. During this brief visit, I found out that Miami Beach had been hit by a tsunami in 2023.

However, that event did not happen. Tsunamis do not rise to the height of hotels on the beach. Still, there were countless videos on social media representing different viewpoints and follow-ups on it. I was surprised by how realistic some of these videos appeared and how many variations were posted by different users.

I didn't keep looking, but I wouldn't be surprised if fake weather events occur on social media all the time. Makes the real stuff less visible and less credible.

So, yes, Americans can be very stupid.

As yourselves why, with a 24/7 news cycle, and we have CNN,NBC,CBS, ABC in addition to Fox, and we have news papers, and people can go online to read news stories, WHY are they ignorant? Because the legacy news media does not explain the content. They handicap the votes like a horserace, but they never get into the content. The immigration policy right now is killing us. Farmers crops are rotting in the fields with no farm workers. The tariffs and tax policies are going to screw f armers. Business is going to suffer, people will lose jobs, and our government's programs are being hollowed out collpased and underfunded. We will see healthcare cost more and deliver less. But no one talks about the impact of policies. I can remember back in the old days, when Brokaw or whomever would actually travel to Iowa for example and interview people about the proposals. Or talk to the scientific community about the research funding that has been cancelled. Or a million other things. People will not react unless it affects them directly.

The Medicaid cuts go into effect 1/1/27 so they won’t even know until after the midterms.

President Biden's Build back Better is undone by magats shitheads who are deviant enough to copy the alliteration of Build Back Better for their stupidity.

Ps. China aint taking the orange's phone calls.

The "dealmaker" is being blocked.

This is a problem because all of our shit is made there.

I'm suspicious of polls. I think more people are aware because it's all over social media.

[quote]All the discussions and revisions that are currently happening have no impact on Americans.

Are you using Trumpspeak?

You mean rich white people? The REAL Americans?

The worse part is, most people wont feel the pinch until AFTER the midterms so this is not going to help the Dems get more people elected to Congress. Guarantee MAGA will be blaming Biden 3 years from now when it starts to kick in.

Problem for the Republicans is they decided to tank the economy BEFORE cutting benefits when they should have done it the other way around. Tariff costs are already here, spending is already way down, and now the average American is going to have to prove in the midterms that either they actually do care about “inflation” or they actually just vote on racism and vibes.

There's a lot to be upset, disturbed angry, etc. about. They are budgeting an excessive amount of money for ICE. Yes. More funding than the entire military budget of many countries. That should scare the crap out of everyone. And while it is alarming that they're cutting benefits and taking away healthcare for 17 million people, including nearly 2 million each in Texas and Florida, what the media has not done is give enough attention to how this affects everyone. There is a huge impact on the economy, and our quality of life in this country has just been downgraded. Cutting funding for scientific research, for weather research and disease research in particular, and killing environmental protections and "going back to coal" as Trump so blithely put it, is catastrophic. Our air and our water , ground water will be fucked up. Childhood diseases we thought we eradicated will reassert themselves, and it is going to seem like the 1890'again. People need to see, in very specific terms what this will do to our economy, they need to take it personal, because it will affect every aspect of our lives including food shortages and extreme weather conditions.

Most people don’t get their info from the legacy media. That’s a dying institution. It’s Facebook, tik tok and podcasters And people are in a silo only listening to sources telling the, what they want to hear. Information does get through sometimes and people are eventually most affected by their daily lives.

I don’t understand why the Democrats are so ineffective at getting their message out. Did the whole party collapse when Harris lost? Do they spend every minute wring texts about how they’re crying tears of joy because someone clapped back at Trump? Is everyone going to just wait the midterms to do anything?

Twitter, Facebook, “wherever you get your podcasts”, et al all amplify conservative shit deliberately. This, along with bribery, is how they keep Republican politicians in their back pocket. And it’s a zero sum game — if conservative content is getting amplified, lefty content is being throttled.

I've been on Threads recently and there's a lot of "This ONLY affects illegals." I mean A LOT of it...verbatim. One thing ReTrumplicans excell at is getting their message across.

[quote] Did the whole party collapse when Harris lost? Do they spend every minute writing texts about how they’re crying tears of joy because someone clapped back at Trump? Is everyone going to just wait the midterms to do anything?

Yes, yes, yes.

Great, R18, Musk has dirt on Dump that he’s holding onto for leverage rather than releasing because it’s the right thing to do. Rich people are all selfish assholes.

[quote]Most people don’t get their info from the legacy media.

The Murdoch/Marketing/Analytics Machine feeds the "Influencers".

The Murdoch/Marketing/Analytics Machine sets the agenda, figures out how to suppress the Democrats response and distributes to its Facebookers, TikTokers and podcasters. Legacy media also encumbers Marketing and Analytics...

THEY ARE EATING THE DOGS!

[quote]The worse part is, most people wont feel the pinch until AFTER the midterms

OK -- nos that I'm starting to see this error more frequently, allow me to explain why it's incorrect.

Gradations of bad: 1) something is bad; 2) but something else is worse, and 3) another thing is [italic]the worst![/italic] The worst ever!

Let's put it this way. Hegseth is bad. Trump is worse. But Steven Miller is the worst.

Thank you.

Republicans are great at getting a simple message out. Democrats are horrible.

The people they want to reach, and influence get their information from legacy media. It's a loud megaphone that reverberates. It has a ripple effect.

Most of the price of this bill (by no means all) is to extend the existing tax code. That was baked in - Trump didn’t expect to be President when his tax cuts for individuals expired.

Had Democrats won, they would have faced a real mess. Simply to keep people’s taxes where they are would have required $4T of spending cuts or revenue increases.

The Republicans added on lots of extra giveaways and takeaways and cruel and/or stupid policies.

God knows how we get out of this. The Republicans keep digging us deeper and deeper by buying off Americans with low taxes.

so dismaying.

[quote]Is everyone going to just wait the midterms to do anything?

What exactly are they supposed to do before the midterms?

R44, you explained it well. I think Americans would be ok with more taxes on billionaires. That should be a Dem issue except it also hurts Dem billionaires.

[quote] I think more people are aware because it's all over social media.

It's all over YOUR social media because you're aware and interested in news, so the algorithms feed you content they think you want to see. But for most people, who rarely engage with news on social media, it probably barely shows up at all in their feeds. The smart few get smarter while the dumb masses get even dumber.

Billions to ICE. Enough to fold gays and trans into the numbers of undesirables and it’s off to Alligator Alcatraz.

my wacko maga relatives will easily find a way to blame this all on Hunter Biden's laptop, or AOC.

Here's a simple message:

Trump's BBB funds his war against Americans.

[quote] What exactly are they supposed to do before the midterms?

People want someone to do something to create the appearance of doing something.

Their masterplan, and this has always been true, At least since Reagan but probably earlier, is to starve government out of existence. Privatize everything. And don't worry about the crops not getting picked, because convict labor will provide the bodies needed to harvest.

It’s not that Republicans are so great at getting their message out, it’s that a lot of people are evil, racist, misogynistic, bigoted assholes and the message is already exactly what they wanted to hear. That is the key to Trump’s success in a nutshell. He didn’t try to make any of it sound pretty or good. He appealed to the lowest, ugliest common denominator and sadly there are plenty of them out there.

[quote]Did the whole party collapse when Harris lost?

The whole Biden fiasco destroyed the legitimacy of the Democratic leadership. The group in power since Clinton's 1992 win, which promised neoliberal economic policies and expansion of social rights, is not leaving their positions. However, they cannot raise funds. The donors were completely sandbagged by the secrecy regarding Biden's condition, which the DNC knew about and helped hide. Next to them, Trump is and looks like a winner.

Moreover, their policies are not popular with middle and working-class Americans. The expansion of rights to include, say, black transgender athletes, is too much. Better to have realized when enough was enough for the bigoted classes and protect gains. Now we face reverses. And neoliberal economic policies have not lived up to their promises. People feel justly hoodwinked.

Despite significant grassroots support for more leftist policies, the Democratic leadership is not ceding power. They don't have money nor new ideas.

It's not a matter of tweaking the message.

The real reason Democrats don't succeed is that it doesn't have internet trolls like the asshole @R56, constantly spewing Faux News talking points ad nauseum in the hopes if it pulls enough shit out of its prolapsed hole, people will eventually believe his nonsense.

Wow.I blocked R56 a while ago. Good!

I googled it this morning curious about the key points. I was embarrassed typing big beautiful bill hoping google would know what I meant. I didn’t realize that was the official name.

I will only get a tax break on the first $12500 of overtime I make in a year (it’s more than double that ) 12500 times my marginal tax rate or 22% yields a savings of $2750.

BBB = Billionaire Bailout Bill. Pass it on.

How could people not have heard of this horrible, ugly, dangerous bill?

It's amazing to me. Yes, I follow the news and politics. But not to know anything about the bill? Discouraging and disgraceful.

They voted for this motherfucker, and now they're not even concerned about he is going to screw over the country?

Any of us who donated in the 2024 campaign are on multiple fundraising email lists now. But it's hard to differentiate. There's the DNC, the DSSC, Kamala, Obama, individual senators and house members. I just read an article that Democrats have been fighting so many legal battles (many of which they have won), that they have no money left to campaign with for 2026. Well, they should SAY that. There should be a legal fund replenishment fundraising arm. There should be a campaign arm. And accompanying any plea, should be a synopsis of the exact tactics that the house or senate member has taken to try to stave off the Republican wave of horrible bills and the horrible executive orders of Trump. I think many of us are waiting to contribute until we see exactly who will get the money and what they plan to do with it.

I'm not "waiting." I am donating to the ACLU which is fighting like crazy, and Mark Elias legal group which is also fighting.

Kamala Harris made a good point in an interview I watched a while ago. She said if you support someone early donations are important because in the early stages of a campaign, there is a greater need to hire staff, rent offices, and generally get things set up. I'd never thought of it that way before.

I agree, R65. That’s an excellent point.

Oh-my mistake I thought it was a John Waters film thread.

This aligns with voting behavior.

I have news for everyone. Half of the country doesn’t give a shit about politics.

And, R68, half of the other half are dumb as a box of hair and willing to kick others to feel better about themselves.

R68, half of the nation has been conditioned to ignore politics, unless it is divisive.

Thank you Mr Murdoch

R70 it's not just him. Roger Ailes and Frank Luntz and Rush Limbaugh have done more than their share.

Americans are stupid:

The Cato Institute’s 2025 4th of July National Survey of 2,026 Americans, conducted by Morning Consult, finds shocking ignorance among the general public about our nation’s history and our system of government. Majorities of Americans don’t know why the American colonies adopted the Declaration of Independence to separate from Britain on July 4, 1776 (53%), or that only Congress can declare war (54%), or that the Supreme Court has final say over presidential actions (54%). Further, more than a third (35%) don’t know there are three branches of government. Nearly 20% of Americans under 25 don’t know that George Washington was the first president of the United States.

(Sorry for the link to the Cato Institute, which leans libertarian, though anti-Trump, but the survey is interesting and alarming.)

[quote] more than a third (35%) don’t know there are three branches of government.

Considering how politicians and the media talk about some agencies as if they are independent of the executive, somehow being a fourth, fifth, or sixth branch of government, that stat is not surprising.

The degradation of American education was a prime directive of the Plantation Owners/Klan/Heritage Foundation/Project 2025.

Along with no health insurance.

Keep them sick, stupid and poor.

The Not So Lost Cause used the Evangelical Churches to fuck up education in the South and because of the printed schoolbooks their tainted history filtered up to the North. The Evangelical Chruches are a threat to Democracy and the Cond=stitution.

Privatizing education weakening the public education system home schooling, etc.

When the concept of charter schools was first introduced it was done as sort of a lab affiliated with a local university, usually the state university system, to explore and try out innovative ways to teach. The number of charter schools was limited. But instead it evolved into what we have now which is a lot of garbage "schools" that don't accomplish much. Some are good some are not.

We should stop calling the Republican Party "Republican Party" and just call them the Stupido Party.