BREAKING!! Bryan Kohberger takes the plea deal!!

Victims family PISSED...

Good. The family may want him dead, but given the glacial melting pace of ever getting to the electric chair and given Idaho has executed may 3 or 4 guys in the last 50 years, he's basically in jail for decades either way.

The Death Penalty. Do 2 wrongs make a right?

R3 = the despicable heinous murderer, Bryan Kohberger.

R5: the 5th commandment: thou shalt not kill.

That applies to murderers as well as sanctimonious avengers like you.

It's not a Chinese menu where to get to pick one from Column A and one from Column B.

I have no problem with the death penalty. If the DNA matches, fry their asses.

R6 is an idiot.

The fraus are pissed because they’ll no longer have a court trial to excite them to fill us their empty pitiful lives.

There would have been no plea deal if the prosecution had a slam dunk case.

Redditor correctly states that people are pissed because this was entertainment for them.

Admittedly, I was looking forward to this trial. Oh well.

I never had a problem with the Death penalty. I believe certain criminals should be killed.

Anyone who murders children, the elderly, and animals should be KILLED. Doesn't matter what their skin color, Hang them.

R11 you and all the networks. A trial would have given them hours of material.

[quote]given the glacial melting pace of ever getting to the electric chair and given Idaho has executed may 3 or 4 guys in the last 50 years, he's basically in jail for decades either way.

Agreed. It also costs more to house someone on death row than in the general population.

Did he say why? And I hope he didn't pull that shit Craig Titus did where he admitted to it but kept claiming he didn't really do it. This guy is a piece of shit, he brought about the fucking nightmare scenario of most of the world. Murdering someone in their bed, in their home, while they were sleeping. Fuck him! I really wanted him to face the firing squad like Gary Gilmore, who was way more of a man than him. He better be gag ordered to not write about this, since he fancies himself some criminalist academic, despite being caught pretty quickly.

[quote]Doesn't matter what their skin color, Hang them.

See? Phillywhore is a progressive.

Prison justice will likely do him in.

Are you talking to yourself again R5? Maybe you need to adjust your meds.

I don't think he should be given a plea unless he confesses EVERY DETAIL.

Life in Idaho is no treat, at least to DLers who aren’t RWNJ trolls.

[Quote] Prison justice will likely do him in.

He's gonna get deleted pretty quickly after he gets clapped up. But perhaps real justice is having him languish in prison? The families deserve justice and they should have been consulted. He took 4 lives ffs.

He might have to R19. I'm pretty sure this fucking creep did. But everyone already knew he did it, except his asshole parents. Now he lives with them, with pics of his bro everywhere and I'm sure his weird mom guilt trips him constantly.

Did he ever say why he killed those kids?

If you guys haven't seen this, you should watch. This kid was mentioned peripherally in "Serial" because he had the same lawyer as guilty Adnan. He's a fucking freak and his parents are so far in denial it's insane. Okay, sorry, back to Bryan.

Very much against capital punishment but the idea of "prison justice" is more disturbing. Turning a blind eye to convicted murderers and other violent criminals reoffending is a failure of the system. Let him suffer in confinement for the rest of his life.

So many morons said he was guilty. No wonder Trump got elected.

Wait R26, are you saying he's not guilty?

Typo. Now we see who the moron really is.

(Slinks away from keyboard)

I'd forgotten one of the victims was named XANA KERNODLE.

I was looking forward to him (possibly) revealing every detail of what went on the night of the crime, and the days leading up to and afterward. A lot of people were. Maybe he still will.

R28 Phew! I was going to point out the irony. A lot of redditors think he's innocent, they have gross fan pages and shit.

You don’t have to scream her name though. R29

I still think the DoorDash driver must have been involved...

R25, about 20 years ago, there was a Catholic priest from the Boston area who was found guilty of child molestation. He met his end swiftly at the hands of an inmate who was in for life. IIRC no one really had a problem with how that played out. Sometimes people give up their right to life for their crimes against humanity.

R25 your sanctimonious take is disturbing to me. I hope he's murdered viciously at the hands of inmates. He deserves the same as he gave. He killed a dog too as practice. Old testament his ass.

R33, she was expected to be called as a witness. I assumed he was parked away from the house, observing. The driver said he was parked right next to her. He had a plan, and nothing was going to stop him from entering that house and executing (no pun intended) that plan.

R35, I believe LE said he was not responsible for what happened to the dog. They also investigated whether he could have been responsible for several cold cases and other unsolved cases back in PA. Nope.

OP’s thread title = hysterical frau

How does Momma’s Mussy feel now, you sexless degenerates?

[QUOTE]she was expected to be called as a witness. I assumed he was parked away

Thank you for your consistent ability to talk out of two sides of your mouth.

R12 it’s a good thing you’re not a lawyer

Phillywhore ain't the brightest, but he does claim to do financials for the famous like Mel Gibson.

I really expected the TikTok true crime fraus to scale an all-out social media riot last night, but there were very few posts. I think they’re just stunned. More posts will probably pop up tonight.

Depriving true crime fans of years worth of content was his cruelest kill. Sinister!

R42

Oh, many of the redditors are NOT happy.

Imagine all the marriage proposals he’ll receive from the true crime fraus. They’ll be fighting over him.

I thought it was interesting what was explained this morning on the Today Show by attorney/co-host, Laura Jarrett. The State is the plaintiff, not the families. The Prosecution did not have to ask the families what they wanted or do what they wanted. The State makes the decision. This surprised me because it wasn't always presented that way on L&O.

It's scary to think he might have gotten away with 4 murders if he hadn't left the knife sheath.

He is too hot for prison. FREE HIM!! I can fix him

R25 100% agree. And anyone who doesn't is really no different than a MAGA Trumptard.

R46 it’s not like Law & Order because there is no death penalty in NY.

In no universe does a plea bargain depend on the victim’s family.

To R41, you made a mistake on what I do for work but I need more coffee first.

[quote]The Prosecution did not have to ask the families what they wanted or do what they wanted. The State makes the decision. This surprised me because it wasn't always presented that way on L&O.

The prosecutor/DA decides which charges will be pursued or whether to offer a plea deal. The judge in the case can reject the deal, however, and order the case to go to trial.

R46 Yeah, that's always the case, that's why no one gives a shit if the family of the killed forgives him. I mean, that's cool and all, good for you being all zen about shit, but we don't trust this fucker and we're locking him up. See; Bart Whittaker. His christian dad forgave him for ambushing the family after a dinner to celebrate his (non existent) college graduation. His brother and mom were killed, his dad survived. He was initially on death row, Texas and all, and then taken off, inexplicably. His dad remarried and did the book tour, "I forgive him and I know my wife and son would." Good for you, you're the one who fucked him up to begin with. But anyone who would rage kill their fucking mom and bro, can't be trusted. That's why the state is the plaintiff, and not dummies like the family.

R53 it's wasn't really inexplicable. The father appealed directly to Greg Abbot, the governor, and, because these are white people, he was taken off death row.

It was an economic decision, trials like that are very expensive to put on for the state, even when it’s a slam dunk. I can’t imagine how devastating this has been for the families of the victims, but I can’t help but wonder if part of their bitterness stems from the extension of their 15 minutes of fame coming to an abrupt end. Particularly the Goncalves family.

I don't know R55, even if they're famous, I doubt they'd choose this. They had a fucking horrible thing happen to their kid, a cowardly fucking monster killed her in her bed. They probably rather not have had that happen.

Names like Kaylee and Xana are the real crimes.

Kernodle…kerplunk.

I still don't get how this was done so quickly and quietly, except they really all must have been wasted. Even the guy was dispatched without a fight. And I want to know which one was crying and being comforted by him before he killed them. I want to know how it went down, and then, throw him in gen pop and let him get Dahmered.

I think he'll have elocute in court to the judge but we'll never know the details. They need to make sure he actually did it and, if details don't add up, the judge may deny the plea deal.

I know L&O is a fictionalized TV show. I was thinking of one particular episode where there were multiple people killed. McCoy asked the spouse of one victims and he asked what the others decided and the man said he would agree with their decision.

Lock him up with this guy, he'll be dead before dawn. I wonder if this dude gets paid for being the equalizer or just does it for fun.

[quote] It was an economic decision

No it wasn’t. There wouldn’t be any trials going by that logic. They simply did not have hard evidence that would stand up in court. Touch DNA is pseudoscience and the idiots bulldozed down the crime scene. The prosecution was simply not equipped to handle this case.

[quote] I think he'll have elocute in court

Oh, dear.

Will Momma’s Mussy be weighing in on this future cagemeat?

The DA would always rather get a deal. It’s a conviction without all the work and expense of a trial. And the perp goes to prison.

Allocution!

"They simply did not have hard evidence that would stand up in court."

They have a VERY strong circumstantial case. Security cameras caught his car on his entire route that night. Kohberger is trained in criminal science. If he thought there was ANY way he could get off by going to trial, he would go to trial.

Personally, r64, I do not want to even think about the weight of Momma's Mussy.

Wasn't it an observant chick who worked at a gas station that noticed the white Hyundai? Without her, we wouldn't have known what car to look for. But of course once they had him as a suspect, his shit all proved he was at and around the crime scene. Bringing your phone to a murder is always a great idea. And the knife sheath. Yeah R67, he was fucked. Also, lol at "trained in criminal science" not so much so that he didn't make stupid, rookie, mistakes.

The DA was probably concerned that chunky girl’s famewhoring family always being on TV would bias a jury against them.

R62 ain’t the sharpest light in the toy box, nah, is he?

I’m with you, R25. But he won’t know he’s miserable. Psychopaths and sociopaths don’t have the ability to feel.

Fry him.

R39, you've added nothing to this conversation save for your supposed snark. You also seem to lack the comprehension skills necessary to navigate a simple comment based on facts.

R69, LE already had the make and model of his car but had not yet released the info to the public because they were building their case. When the store mgr. went to the press, LE released a BOLO intentionally misleading the public by saying they were looking for more than one person seen in the Hyundai the night of the murders. They were closing in, so they didn't want to spook Kohberger.

[quote] I think he'll have elocute in court

[quote] Oh, dear.

[quote] Allocution!

[quote] —Nancy Lee Grahn

Elocution...

Allocution...

ELECTROCUTION!!!

R4 drools and is a MAGA-headed fool.

It was ultimately Kohberger's decision to plead guilty. He probably agreed to the plea ... because he was guilty. And didn't want to die. Or have to hear it laid out how his perfect murder plan went awry.

The prosecution probably offered the plea in part because of recent trials like the Karen Read trial. You can present all the evidence which all points to the culprit, but in a high profile case based on circumstantial evidence if there is enough of an intersection of a) true crime fraus all stoked up on on conspiracy theories and b) low information people easily manipulated by disinformation campaigns, the jury pool can be impacted and a jury may ignore or disbelieve the evidence and acquit. A Kohberger acquittal is too frightening to contemplate.

I can see the families being upset if they think won't get all the information about the crime without the trial. Hopefully the prosecutors make all evidence and information learned available to them. Maybe Kohberger has agreed to provide more information.

He should have gone to trial. Probably would have been acquitted.

R76, have you ever considered that Karen Read being acquitted had nothing to do with "true crime fraus" and everything to do with a prosecution that couldn't find ONE expert to testify that a vehicle collision actually happened?

But yeah, keep comparing a woman who drove while drunk to a man who broke into a home and stabbed four people to death with a hunting knife.

Does the plea deal mean the families can sue this incel in a civil trial for any monies he or his jail-fraud may try to collect from memoirs, movie options, etc?

Also, some of the media coverage of this plea deal makes mention of the families being "denied" the opportunity to hear the guy explain "why he did it." As if this punk wouldn't just bullshit from the stand? He's a psychopath, for god's sake.

Every word issuing from his mouth would be calculated to manipulate and self-aggrandize. Better to ignore him and let gen pop deal with his sorry ass.

There’s no guarantee he would even testify or say anything during a trial. These families seem misinformed.

This trial would never have compared to Luigi’s.

Maybe the families are upset that they will be denied the right to give victim impact statements.

Even so, I'm inclined to doubt that screaming, crying, carrying on, or hurling invective in a courtroom would mean shit to that guy.

R83 I don't think it means shit to anyone. I always cringe when the families scream at the people, because they don't give a shit, if they did, they wouldn't be killing people to begin with. It makes me sad to see a little old mom who is just destroyed from the death of her kid tell some pile of shit that he's monster and she hopes he feels bad everyday, etc. Because they don't fucking care.

R83 The victims' family should be able to read impact statements at court prior to sentencing, even without a trial.

* family members

[Quote] R45 - Women are awful

Serial killer groupies (who are mostly women) ARE awful, but let's not overlook the fact that the vast majority of serial killers and mass murderers are men.

To R41-Thank you for the lovely compliment, nevertheless I never did the financials for Mel Gibson. I worked with Robin Gibson, the ex-wife (nice, sweet woman) divorce attorneys and did the forensic accounting for the divorce. Best divorce ever, it was so much fun.

[quote]The Goncalves family is now asking supporters who are just as upset as they are over the major development to get loud ... and send their criticisms to the United States Department of Justice.

[quote]The family likely wants the feds to get involved and file murder charges ... thereby possibly putting the death penalty back on the table.

What basis would the Feds have for prosecuting? Crossing a state line to commit the murders?

If the families REALLY want to see the system fail, watch this tweaky perp get off on a technicality in a capital murder trial and then basically walk.

If they take the DP off the table for Bryan they need to do the same for our sweet Luigi.

If the family really wants to see justice, pay one of the peckerwoods there to kill him. They'd do it for the clout too, so you wouldn't have to pay too much. It's what I would do. The Folgers family made sure Manson never got out, but they could have made him die.

"The best part of wakin' up. Is Manson's still locked up"

Ethan's family is going to be in court to support the plea deal. The Goncalves family is stoking outrage for their own... reasons.

R88 Isn’t her name “Robyn?”

Can you imagine being murdered because you didn't lock your fucking doors?

I suspect the parents don't know how much agony this will spare them. Sitting in court, listening to the gruesome details("she cried for her mom as I stabbed her again" for instance)- no thanks, do they really want to know that? I made that up, btw I am not BK lurking in the Datalounge - that's exactly the sort of thing that breaks my heart when I hear it on Dateline or whatever

Surrounded by the "true crime vultures" who will probably be beating each other up for a seat in the courtroom

Seeing the crime scene photos, which will of course get leaked - and the endless media circus.

I understand they want "revenge" and details and all that but this may end up being a better outcome for the families. Skipping all that.

Of course I'm not their families so I don't know how they actually feel but as an outsider I think it might be better this way.

Sorry but I just think if you are going to plead guilty you should have to explain the WHAT WHERE WHY. Just saying guilty isn't enough. He isn't even required to tell them where the murder weapon is!!!. WTF? Talk about a sweetheart deal.

“Xana Kernoodle” has to be one of the worst names ever.

Not as bad as Xana Kernodle.

He wanted to sign his work. That's why he plead.

Bryan, you in danger, gurl! Also, I learned on some show where they played the plea agreement that he wasn't planning to kill Xana and Ethan and that he ran into Xana so had to. He should have left Ethan alive, an actual smart guy would have, they would have thought Ethan killed everyone.

He's a moron. He wanted to commit the perfect crime, and he leaves the sheath there. I wonder if the thumbs up selfie was taken before he realized he'd dropped the sheath.

It was very interesting seeing someone straight up admit to these awful crimes. After Murdaugh, OJ, and the Ramseys it felt like the y never came clean.

Again, though, he could pull some shit that he just admitted to not get executed, he needs to write it out or something, Ha, yeah the knife sheath is the best thing ever, they knew who he was pretty fucking quick but kept a lid on it. How badly did he shit his pants when he realized he left it there? ha ha!

[quote]Security cameras caught his car on his entire route that night

Too blurry. A lot of people drive white cars.

I’ve forgotten the details. He’d been to a party there once, that’s why he picked it? What if the door had been locked, was he planning to break in?

So Madison was a lesbian right? She rebuffed any interest in him, which made her the target. And then he found Kaylee sleeping in bed with her.

Xana should have taken her time eating that Jack in the Box. She hoovered it down in 2 minutes and was heading back up to bed when she ran into Kohberger on the steps m

He’s defunct autistic. His vacant performance in court and not being able to read social cues (standing up), tells you all you need to know. Autism = psychopathy

[quote]I’ve forgotten the details. He’d been to a party there once

No.

[quote]Not as bad as Xana Kernodle.—Nancy Lee Grahn

Well my iPhone autocorrected it to noodle.

Was Ethan naked when Bryan killed him?........asking for a friend.. And by friend I mean Datalounge.

So Kernodle encountered him on the steps…and she ran upstairs into the bedroom? Instead of running down and out the front door? Didn’t she ever watch a horror movie??

Bryan = "I know where the murder weapon is"

District Attorney = "That's okay. We don't give a fuck"

Seriously?

It’s funny that his mother was writing anti-death penalty op-eds. Maybe she knew Jr was going to one day go on a stabbing spree.

Or maybe she was just a sane person with a public interest.

R116, lighten the fuck up. Jesus.

How did he kill 4 people so efficiently in just a few minutes? He seems like a bumbling moron.

I think the DoorDash driver AND Dylan the roommate were both accomplices.

TLDR.

Has there been any mention of a motive yet?

So when are we going to hear from Dylan “I think my roommates might have been murdered, but I’m not sure so I’m just going to go back to bed and see what’s up around noon tomorrow” Mortensen?

She’ll never have high blood pressure…that’s one hell of a type-B personality.

R79 He was not an incel!!!

[quote] That's why he plead.

Oh, dear!

[quote] I think the DoorDash driver AND Dylan the roommate were both accomplices.

Riiiiight. And the person they caught and want to put to death has said nothing about TWO accomplices that there isn’t a scrap of evidence to support they were?

[quote] How badly did he shit his pants when he realized he left it there?

And how badly when the cops pulled him over with his dad relatively shortly after he committed them? I had a cop pull behind me yesterday and was worried and I hadn’t done anything wrong. Imagine this guy’s conscience.

Bryan = "But I have the fucking murder weapon.!! It's really sharp and has all kinds of DNA on it.!! I also have the mask I wore!! What kind of idiot D.A. wouldn't want those in the evidence file!!?

D.A.= "Not interested. But thanks anyways. There are a lot of crazy murder memorabilia collectors out there. Bet you can make a lot of money from them! Congrats!!"

What the fuck? What happened to the son of Sam law? I know disgusting Jodi Arias makes money off her gross chola art, I can't believe people buy that fat fuck from Long Island's crap too. It's pretty easy to get away witk killing hookers, that's not impressive. I can't believe bumbler Kohberger wants to compare himself to Bundy. Bundy had to pretend to be injured and talk people into going with him, he also used his hands. This clown breaks in while people are asleep and uses a knife. I bet if you asked Bundy why he didn't use a weapon, though, he'd say it's because it'd be much too easy to leave it behind, but you know all about that, right, you pale fuck!

He seemed like someone who simply wanted to see what it felt like to kill. It doesn’t scream sexual motive as much as your garden variety psychopath with autism.

R126, John Waters house is full of it. He has one of the biggest serial killer memorabilia collections in the country. People are weird.

I don't care that he is getting life, but he should have to reveal specific facts of his crime. I watch the REAL court videos on YT and there was a perv being charged for like his 3rd offense of child abuse---you know what he did. The D.A. offered a lenient plea deal. The judge looked at the D.A. and asked the D.A. [bold] "Are you afraid of a jury? Are you afraid to try a case? You have all of this evidence and all of this prior criminal conduct and THIS is the deal you offer? The plea is rejected".[/bold]....Judge Stevens in Texas.

The sheath DNA was based on touch DNA which would have been laughed out of court. That’s why they offered a plea. Touch DNA is pseudoscience and has one of the largest false positive rates out of any forensic testing. They simply were in over their heads and had no idea how to conduct an investigation.

R129, nothing that comes out of his mouth can be believed. It’s pointless.

No doubt there was drug activity going on in that house. It was a party house that had the cops called on it a million times. They took their time alerting authorities so they could be sure there wasn’t any incriminating evidence. It was a disaster waiting to happen.

R130, do you really believe that’s the only evidence they have?

If their case is a bunch of nothing, why is he taking the plea then? Nobody forced the defendant to accept a plea, he can still go to trial if he wants to roll the dice. But no, he agreed to four life sentences, meaning he will never see the light of day as a free man again because…the prosecutor doesn’t have any evidence? Mmmmkay.

These killers LOVE to talk. Go watch "interview with a killer"....The "worlds oldest serial killer" got a 2 hour episode he told so much about each victim. Their last words were chilling. The guy who interviews the killers usually mops them up and calls the killers on their bullshit. Kohlberger is going to go on one of these shows. Wait and See.

R130 Thinks she's smart, but she's a moron. A dangerous combo. Touch DNA isn’t some snake oil forensic trick—it’s legit science, backed by STR analysis that pinned Kohberger with odds tighter than your grip on that conspiracy rag. The plea deal? Not a desperate dodge but a calculated move to spare families a circus, despite the prosecution’s stacked deck of surveillance, cell data, and that pesky DNA. And “in over their heads”? The FBI, Idaho cops, and Othram labs had Kohberger cuffed in six weeks.

You're not one of those dummies who insisted he was innocent for months on end, are you.

When you think of Xana Kernodle, and you will, don't forget her sister, Jazzmin!

These parents who want vengeance often are the ones who, even after attending the electrocution or whatever, find that they still aren't satisfied. the ones who aren't famewhores often realize that the death penalty is pointless and won't bring back their loved one.

Yum.

Defense attorneys don't take life/no release deals based on bogus-evidence threats, which can provide hung juries. And Kohberger is a control-freak, engaged defendant who has his own cunning in terms of assessing relative risks.

Has he revealed how he came to focus on Madison Mogen - who I believe was killed first?

From what I've read she was his real target and the others just happened to be there.

Why should the people of the US pay enormous sums to keep a multiple murderer alive in a prison until he dies. What's the point of it.

It is reportedly more expensive for the system to prosecute through inevitable, endless appeals on a Death Row case.

A life in prison sentence is cheaper for the state.

R141 The murders need somewhere to live so the mentally ill can live on the street.

Wasn't Madison the one with the druggie mother or stepmother? She and Xana had druggie mothers of some sort.

R144, not sure. How does that impact the case?

Kohberger could have got burned on a sale by one of the moms:

#DrugDealGoneWrong

The public defender had previously repped at least one of them.

That’s a pretty dumb theory that has been proven not to be the case r146.

Mogen’s father and stepmother, and Kernodle’s mother had all been in legal trouble due to drugs.

lol. Exactly. From ny post and 2 years ago.

This has been discredited if you follow the case.

Wow. Some people just believe anything they read.

Madison Mogen‘s mom and Bryan Kohberger’s mom may well have had a jailhouse romance while doing time for drug busts.

Kohberger might have killed Mogen because he feared her mom was going to break up his parents’ marriage.

^^ sorry, I meant

[quote]Madison Mogen‘s [bold]stepmom[/bold] and Bryan Kohberger’s mom may well have… &etc

The one mom being a druggie helps explain why she named her daughter Xana Kernodle.

[italic]You say Kerneedle / I say Kernodle…

[bold]"Lock your doors."-[/bold]----------------one of those things some parents forgot to tell their kids. Also don't be "cool parents" who let your kids go to Aruba to drink and party.

Was Ethan naked when the killer struck? Just curious.

James Patterson just wrote a book on the case… based on a dream.

Judge liftted ban on releasing case files to the media, once the sentencing phase is completed. The judge will review all documents to decide which documents can be made public.

* lifted

That deputy sheriff behind him is built like a shit brickhouse @ 159

R161: He's no Sgt Prochaska (see disappeared Jodi Huisentruit)

This Bryan Kohberger guy is a strict vegan - so that explains a lot of his behavior.

To anyone on here who is in any way being critical of the victims, the victims families, or the victims' lifestyles: you are a MISERABLE, wretched human being. The notion that the victims were in ANY WAY responsible for what happened to them is reprehensible.

Get help.

^^ of course we can joke about the victims because we're detached from them. If we knew them ersonally, or were even in that town or at their memorial service, we wouldn't laugh.

Canonizing victims and their families neglects that no one is ever a "perfect victim". And people who ask for vengeance often find it hollow when they get it.

R166 what the fuck are you talking about? I'm anti death penalty and I was happy with the plea deal. I don't canonize anyone. But the disturbed individuals above suggesting that somehow the victims of even THEIR MOMS AND DADS were to blame for the being butchered are seriously damaged individuals. Sick.

[quote]R167 The disturbed individuals above suggesting that somehow the victims, of even THEIR MOMS AND DADS, were to blame for the being butchered are seriously damaged individuals. Sick.

We don’t know anything about Mr. Kohberger‘s motivation, so we can’t rule out that the past behavior of the victims and/or their families lead to them being targeted.

There are no answers… so there are no wrong answers.

Also, if they had locked their doors, they wouldn’t be dead.

Those four kids cracked the Epstein case, and Kohberger is a patsy sent in by Kamala Harris and James Comey to destroy the truth.

He was a cat burglar while he was doing heroin. He was breaking into homes looking for money to support his habit. Bottom line, he knew how to break into people’s homes.

He reportedly had that visual snow fog thing. I guarantee that most of his problems stem from his drug usage. I also believe he killed because he wanted to know what it felt like. His postings also reveal that. I don’t think it was sexual at all. He had a target. He needed one to choose a house to kill people but I don’t believe it went much deeper than that. He was your garden variety psychopath.

Bryan is the Leopold AND Loeb of our time, but in all seriousness, teh aggression may be the real thrill here for him.

I have a question for those who followed the case: when the surviving roommate opened the door (1-3 times I’ve read) did he see her and just keep on walking, or did she get supremely lucky?

We don’t know if he saw Dylan or not.

He has poor vision and it was dark. He may have been exhausted and not ready for another struggle or he may have just been done with his task at hand.

Poor vision? Since when?

One Night In Idaho on Amazon Prime is really good. Gets into it with the friends and family. Tells the story better than anything I have thus far seen...

It has gaps. It doesn't include the famewhoring by the parents or the screwups by the police. It's very confusing with regard to what the survivors did/saw. Many "human interest" questions not answered---why did the other triplets return to UI and why did the brother let himself have a room overlooking the murder house--his choice or someone else's idea?

R178 you're a lowlife.

R179 is tender to the touch today.

[quote] we can’t rule out that the past behavior of the victims and/or their families lead to them being targeted.

Oh, dear!

I don’t believe these parents are famewhoring r178

All sg has done is say he can’t wait until his daughters death is not considered a hobby by many.

R182: One reason I gave up watching local news, ages ago, was that there often was someone---a parent, a sibling, a friend, a pastor, who seemed to be using a grizzly for their own purposes. Tragedy can bring out the worst in people.

The victims' statements are so heart wrenching. Poor Dylan was so brave; she could barely breathe.

BK is probably mentally jerking off to the victim statements. Seriously.

The chubby girl has a sister named “Alive a” ??

I'm genuinely curious about the rapport between the defense team and a defendant like BK. Are they going into the sentencing hearing today coaching him during the impact statements, or do they basically not give a shit anymore? Do they try to make small talk with the guy?

If you're legally defending a guy like this, do you detach totally and act strictly business, or do you have to try to humanize him, try to connect with some "personality" in order to represent him?

Someone will basically 'take care' of this putrid creep in prison. Shits like him tend not to last long behind bars.

[quote]BK is probably mentally jerking off

Pics please.

"Should have locked the doors. "----------Brian from Idaho.

The Reddit fraus are cumming buckets over the end of the trial. They have pet names for all of the families. It’s one big soap opera for them. They have no idea what to do with themselves now that their favorite program is over.

[quote]Someone will basically 'take care' of this putrid creep in prison. Shits like him tend not to last long behind bars.

Riiiight.

R193 wow. How does it feel to be a miserable, low life piece of shit?

You just know this human garbage posts on Free Bryan Reddit forums.

Go away. Seriously, you aren't welcome here.

[quote]Someone will basically 'take care' of this putrid creep in prison. Shits like him tend not to last long behind bars.

Like the Manson Family? They lived long lives behind bars.

[bold] WHY do people think Kohberger is going to be mingling with other inmates? He isn't. [/bold]He will be locked in his cell for 23 hours a day. His exercise is going to be in a dog kennel and the other inmates won't be able to touch him--because they are going to be in other dog kennels. [bold] He is going to be able to buy a tablet and tv comes with FREE basic cable. [/bold]!!

R197 I don't care. Being locked away for the entire rest of one's life with no hope of getting out is a terrible, terrible fate. To be honest, I'd welcome death if the alternative was life in prison.

The death penalty is wrong, and simply unworkable.

One could argue he is a psychopath who always thought he was the smartest one in the room and wanted to commit the perfect crime. He planned this for quite a long time, ordering the knife eight months before the actual murders.

But then you have the out-of-control side, stabbing Xana 50 times when he was heard to say, "It's okay, I'm here to help." Even if she fought back, there was no need for such excessive brutality. Then you have Kaylee who was stabbed 30 times and beaten so badly her face was unrecognizable. They also say she was suffocated. He may have become enraged when he saw her in bed with Maddie, his supposed intended target, but again that was just brutal excess on his part. Was Kaylee the actual target because of her extreme treatment at his hands or was he just pissed she was there?

The whole thing just feels like a massive waste of life. I wish he would have channeled his aspy energy into some other pursuit.

I think he murdered them to prove he was smart enough to commit a violent crime and get away with it. Pretty pathetic and pointless.

Poor little a Booth, a delicate blonde, did not fare well when shipped off to Africa to shoot TRADER HORN in 1929. There she suffered from sunstroke, malaria, and Katayama fever… plus her brief costume got her bitten by ticks.

The crew begged producer Irving Thalberg to send over doctors and medicines but he didn’t want the picture to go over budget. It took Booth six years to recover when she returned to L.A. and there was eventually an out of court settlement by MGM. This got her blacklisted by the major studios, however, and her career basically died.

Booth was in pain for the rest of her life, sometimes only achieving some relief by shutting herself in dark rooms.

^^ okay, this too was A CRIME, but I’m in the wrong thread ! !

Welp, sitting on his ass watching TV all day in solitary is possibly not that different from the way he would have spent his pathetic life with a PhD in criminology from Washington State University.

Also, are guards at these institutions receptive to bribes (e.g. scrip, hooch, ass) to look the other way when a particularly unpopular inmate gets messed with?

What's most unusual about this crime -- on top of it just being so inherently sick and sad -- is the overdone viciousness of the killings. It's almost common knowledge in the crime journalism field that when a body is found with that much homicidal-frenzy damage to it, it surely means the victim was in a state of rage and that that means it was personal. Yet apparently all evidence suggests that the four victims did not know him at all. Despite the other clues that he'd been plotting and planning the murders for several months.

R207 I think the viciousness demonstrates excitement, not rage.

He truly does give me the creeps.

The horrible people on the Reddit's are called "Probergers" - there's something seriously wrong when there are large swaths of the public who support people like this, like Luigi, like Trump... all absolute sociopaths...

R210 How dare you compare Luigi to them

Luigi is nothing like this psycho.

Luigi shot one high-paid health executive in the back from a distance and did it out of a warped sense of mission. It was murder, 100%, but this is a wholly different animal.

He seems to be an incel who hates women. Maddie and Kaylee especially were the types of young women that these freaks crave and can't get. Basic, American Eagle wearing, blonde, fit girls who want the football player and not some bug eyed , socially inept freak.

That snobbery is uncalled for, r206. There's nothing wrong with Washington State University. It's a much better school than University of Idaho. It's also weird how you're shitting on the entire field of criminology when your knowledge of prison is clearly based on episodes of Law & Order and Oz.

"What's most unusual about this crime -- on top of it just being so inherently sick and sad -- is the overdone viciousness of the killings."

That's what I was thinking too...as my attorneys seek a pardon for me from the President.

The WSU department kicked him out of the program. Having sense enough to do this probably reflects well on them.

It is a bit low-rent to read out that you are looking forward to the perpetrator getting 'big Ds in prison' as part of your victim impact statement. The judge and the state attorney didn't appear to flinch, I was wondering if they would.

LOL, R214. This is Kaylee's childhood sweetheart. I believe she broke up with him after she graduated in May of '22. Maybe Kohberger saw the boyfriend on her SM accounts and figured he had a chance.

This is *was* Maddie's boyfriend. Extremely average looking.

He seemed like such a nice young man…

[quote] He seems to be an incel who hates women.

Nope. That’s been debunked. They also just confirmed that he had no link whatsoever to them. He simply wanted to know what killing felt like. It was a well-known party house and the layout was online. Easy access. He’s autistic.

I wonder how much more evidence the judge will allow to be released. A lot of supposed facts that were taken as truth have now been debunked by LE and the prosecutors.

R222, he had complaints filed against him by female students. He did have a grudge to bear when it came to young women.

As for the layout of the house online, maybe the sad truth is he was looking for a house full of attractive girls, and he figured out their house would be the easiest to break into. But again, he went straight up to the third floor because he knew where Maddie's bedroom was located. So, he did target at least one of the girls. He would not have had that info from the house layout. He spied on them for months before he finally made his move. I wonder how many other properties he viewed online before he decided to stalk this one property. LE said he was very good at scrubbing his history, so I wonder if they were able to retrieve any pertinent evidence of his property searches.

[quote]R214 Maddie and Kaylee especially were the types of young women that these freaks crave and can't get. Basic, American Eagle wearing, blonde, fit girls…

Lordt forgive me, but those girls look so trashy to me. The fake blonde hair, the fake tans, the long fake eyelashes (the chubby one’s look like they’re on a Disney rabbit.)

They’re not expected to have great style at that age, but PLEASE! Their life’s ambition looked to be a boob job…

Those lashes!

It was a drug party house. We have video. The cops were called up there 7 billion times.

R226, they were called for noise complaints. When were they ever busted for possession?

White college kids don’t get busted for possession in Idaho.

Yeah, they do, R228.