‘The Bear’ season 4 official thread!

I love it, and who is the new bitch?

I’m two episodes in and it’s absolute shit

R1 what are you loving about it? I thought that premiere was terrible

really? I liked it a lot

Cool. What did you like about it?

It's SO. FUNNY.

There is nothing funny happening in season 4

Enjoyed the first episode, but the attempt to make restaurant admin and management SO exciting was sort of ridiculous.

i read the ending recap instead after realizing I had no desire to watch Carmy act like a pill. The episode last season that did me in was Jamie Leigh chewing up scenery with her daughter. giving birth Enough. Time for a wrap. The cast has all moved on to better things.

I would rather go to a good Italian beef place than Carmy's house of pretension any day of the week.

Any doubt that JLC has a cock should be put to rest this season. She looks full on MtF transgender. Wow.

Any man who though she was sexy in the 80s or 90s will be vomiting in a wastebasket at her visage.

I found the first 3 episodes pretty boring and way too slow and serious. Episode 4 was ok and the show finds its groove again in episode 5. Episode 5 on feels like THE BEAR everyone fell in love with a few years ago. It feels like the first two seasons.

But those first few episodes were not very good.

Why does everyone on this show talk so much? Every conversation is overblown and long and made to be so deep.

I just caught up on season three. Everyone said it was horrible, but I actually loved it. The episode where we learn about the middle age prep cook's back story KILLED me.

It was season two I couldn't stand (thus why I never watched season three until now.)

I'm gonna give season four a shot.

R12, it's like a Sorkin show. Or the Gilmore Girls. You just have to accept that everyone talks, all the time.

R13 you just watched it but can’t just say Tina? You watched it but don’t know her name?

PS that episode is both loved by fans and critics. The season as a whole was bad. That doesn’t mean there wasn’t a good episode or two in the mix.

You claim to love season 3 yet only mentioned the episode everyone praised last year (and couldn’t even name the character by name!)

Gilmore Girls talking was at least fun to listen to. This show makes you lose brain cells. All their conversations are ridiculous yet spoken in such a serious way you can tell they think they’re being thought provoking.

It comes off stupid in season 4. Even while crying they are blabbering on and on nonstop. Never a moment of silence.

I agree with the poster who says season 4 isn’t good until episode 5. I would say maybe episode 4. But the first 2/3 episodes feel overly long even though they aren’t very long and Carmine is extra annoying. I’m tired of everyone acting like Syd is the second coming of Christ in the world of chefs when she’s brand new.

Episode 7 is great. I always love the episodes with his family members and Brie Larson was funny in this. Josh Hartnett was a cool addition. Sarah Paulson is overrated in everything she’s in to me. I will never get why she’s so loved by people. She has an annoying screen presence.

JLC was amazing as usual.

Might I add I found it strange how little screentime everyone else received outside of Jeremy Allen White, Ayo and Ebon?

Lionel Boyce received an Emmy nomination for season 2 and Liza Colon-Zayas won an Emmy for season 2 yet they are practically background characters in season 4. The focus is ALWAYS on the other 3 this season.

R14, I have a condition. I forget every character's name seconds after hearing it. Even leads.

It's bizarre and very, very frustrating.

When I watch a show with my partner, he knows to say "the girl who wears the hats" or "the prep cook lady" when we discuss it later.

The Bore

Has SNL ever done a skit where they turn The Bear into an actual situation comedy? Give Carmy a catchphrase, make Syd a sassy black sidekick, etc.?

I breezed through all 10 episodes over the weekend. It’s a better season than 3 overall, and has a style, texture and pacing unique in TV. But all the bullshitty Actor’s Studio navel-gazing and posturing is finally exhausting. So are the glum looks on everyone ‘s faces at all times, and the money countdown to the restaurant’s (possible) end.

Despite a final episode that calls the future into question with a self-indulgent two-hander (which becomes a three-hander and then briefly a four-hander) there will obviously be a fifth season. It should be the last.

John Cassavetes-style self-indulgence toward its writers and actors has been a staple of this series, love it or hate it. I have felt both emotions without ever feeling much love for very long. But finally I want things to end. And lighten up. I always want to watch an old movie musical after a half hour with these miserable, dysfunctional, unhappy people. And I resist the idea that this series simply reflects the truth and reality of most people’s lives, which is that life is one long, disappointing, slog, punctuated by periods of intensity and anxiety.

“The Bear” is not life. And increasingly it isn’t entertainment either.

It’s gradually becoming all about the black characters, isn’t it?

They turned a place where blue collar types could get decent cheap food into a pretentious elite place for the rich. And we're supposed to root for them. In the 1930s, the plot would have been the exact opposite and it would have starred Jean Arthur and been funny.

Episode 4 was my favorite. Glad I watched it as I thought I’d stop watching for good after the first 3. People will love or hate the wedding episode-I loved it. I’ve enjoyed the series overall but I don’t need a 5th.

Yeah, I'm ready for it to be over. I thought Season 4 was better than 3, but it was still the same change from season's one and two. I actually liked Syd's solo episode - even the rambling monologue to her young cousin. But AFTER that episode, Syd had so many stammering, long, supposedly-important-but-just-annoying dialogue stretches. I know it's her brand and it didn't bother me until after the Season 4 solo episode, but it just got tiresome. And the season finale - some may love the Syd-Carmie showdown, but I hated it. The success of the restaurant was obviously high stakes, but I just didn't care.

Found the season finale very “ACTING!”

Although there are various bits of exposition this season explaining the family & friends connections among all the characters, I still couldn’t figure out why Claire was at the wedding.

Because she's Claire Bear

So The Beef will be the new McDonald's

R22 the story is about Carmine more than anyone. wtf.

I hated the finale

Season 4 was more of a return to form. Carmy needs to drop the tortured, angst-ridden artiste act. Sydney's season-long indecisiveness felt way too stretched out.