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Will Smith says Oscars slap fallout was brutal

Three years after he slapped comedian Chris Rock on stage at the Oscars, Will Smith says making a mistake so publicly was "brutal".

"The last few years for me have been really deep reflection," the actor tells 1Xtra's Remi Burgz. "After the Oscars I shut it down for a minute and really went into the internal work and just taking a big, strong, honest look at myself."

"For the first time in my career, [I was] having to deal with a level of disapproval that I never had to experience," Will says. "The addiction to the approval of others that I had to dissolve, it was brutal."

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by Anonymousreply 172July 6, 2025 4:01 PM

It won't work, Will. You are ovah.

by Anonymousreply 1June 18, 2025 1:19 PM

His wife turning him into the world’s #1 cuckold did more damage than the slap.

by Anonymousreply 2June 18, 2025 1:22 PM

Of course Will himself is NOT brutal.

by Anonymousreply 3June 18, 2025 1:24 PM

Too bad the addiction wasn't to not assault others.

by Anonymousreply 4June 18, 2025 1:26 PM

[Quote] "The addiction to the approval of others that I had to dissolve, it was brutal."

Pure concentrated narcissism right there, on full display.

He assaults someone on national tv, people disapprove (shocking!), and … what’s his takeaway?

It’s not, “they’re upset and rightly so. I need to behave better.”

It’s, “people are upset with me so … I need to stop looking for the approval of others.”

by Anonymousreply 5June 18, 2025 1:28 PM

I agree with R2. I still blame Jada for all of this. The woman made him a laughing stock. I know it's "cheaper to keep her," but I'd give up half just to get her out of my life. That woman is toxic.

by Anonymousreply 6June 18, 2025 1:29 PM

why the fuck do they stay together? no pre nup?

by Anonymousreply 7June 18, 2025 1:48 PM

The worst thing is he still won an Oscar like thirty minutes later.

by Anonymousreply 8June 18, 2025 1:49 PM

I agree, R8. That he wasn’t escorted out and dumped out in the street is the scandal. That they awarded him (with a standing O, no less) minutes later is staggering.

Also, he took a dump on what was Questlove’s big moment. His was the Oscar awarded right after the slap, not that anyone remembers.

Will Smith is GARBAGE.

And this former Oscar obsessee hasn’t watched since.

I cannot believe they let him stay.

Merman threw someone out 70 years before for less!

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by Anonymousreply 9June 18, 2025 2:04 PM

Twat.

by Anonymousreply 10June 18, 2025 2:04 PM

And the people who stood up!!! For his standing O... just goes to prove they are a bunch of phonies

by Anonymousreply 11June 18, 2025 2:06 PM

Closeted faggot

Jada is a "grade-A Lesbiana cunt"

by Anonymousreply 12June 18, 2025 2:33 PM

The fallout wasn’t brutal ENOUGH. He should be shunned from the industry permanently.

by Anonymousreply 13June 18, 2025 2:36 PM

Lying weasel.

by Anonymousreply 14June 18, 2025 2:39 PM

The Oscars have a world audience of a billion, at minimum.

Does he thinking disrupting the show that way would give him a free pass??

by Anonymousreply 15June 18, 2025 2:47 PM

Interesting that he call it just “a mistake.”

by Anonymousreply 16June 18, 2025 2:47 PM

There really is nothing he can say to make this right — but what he has said has only made it worse.

by Anonymousreply 17June 18, 2025 2:55 PM

He should have been arrested for assault, plain and simple. I'm still baffled he didn't get in trouble with the law. Well, unless it was staged and everyone was in on it.

by Anonymousreply 18June 18, 2025 3:06 PM

"went into the internal work " aka getting fucked by Duane Martin

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by Anonymousreply 19June 18, 2025 3:17 PM

Will and Jada are Scientos, which means he can't do any real therapy.

by Anonymousreply 20June 18, 2025 3:24 PM

The standing ovation may turn out to be the final nail in the coffin of old-school movie stardom. It exposed the mindless sheep in Hollywood standing up to applaud someone who’d committed assault on an international stage half an hour earlier.

All the self-aggrandizing, finger-wagging speechifying at the awards podium had already become a joke (literally, from Ricky Gervais), but the hypocrisy of the celebrity set was laid bare in a way that couldn’t have been better scripted by Hollywood screenwriters.

The bigger scandal than the slap was the standing ovation that followed it.

by Anonymousreply 21June 18, 2025 3:24 PM

[quote] why the fuck do they stay together? no pre nup?

She’s a true malignant narcissist and he’s a far lesser type. The codependency is at a chemical level at this point. He’s far too gone to comprehend the manipulation and she’s far too evil to stop.

Their lives are beyond toxic.

by Anonymousreply 22June 18, 2025 3:31 PM

Good. The entire thing was unhinged and I will never be able to see him on a screen without thinking he’s a lunatic IRL.

by Anonymousreply 23June 18, 2025 3:32 PM

R24 = Shaft.

by Anonymousreply 25June 18, 2025 3:39 PM

Yes, he's the victim in all this. Brutalized!

(Eyeroll).

by Anonymousreply 26June 18, 2025 3:45 PM

This would be an impressive level of insight for your six year old - finally realizing discipline or punishment results from their own actions and isn’t just an irrational attack against them.

by Anonymousreply 27June 18, 2025 3:47 PM

I think the man had been pushed and pushed and pushed and something exploded on Oscar night. He should have waited until the after-party, but what are you going to do.

As for the standing ovation, I think people were either still stunned or thought it was some kind of skit and still didn't realize it was real.

by Anonymousreply 28June 18, 2025 3:52 PM

R24 = idiot

by Anonymousreply 29June 18, 2025 4:04 PM

He looks miserable. And his wife is toxic for his brand. The wife needs to be jettisoned. There is always room for performers who have made as much money as he did but the world has changed and his image has been damaged. Smith is receiving bad counsel. After showing his entire ass at the Oscars, it would have been best to withhold his award and escort him and his people from the premises. It didn't occur to any of them, especially the wife who like any little people, has a huge chip on her shoulder, that you can not recover from such an awful blunder.

Get rid of your team including your wife and kids, Mr.Smith. It's not 1998 anymore, LP releases and cross branding and music videos? People consume more media than ever, but not like this. Take a break, regroup.

by Anonymousreply 30June 18, 2025 4:07 PM

They could have removed him and have Chris Rock accept the award on his behalf.

by Anonymousreply 31June 18, 2025 4:08 PM

Yes, r28 poor Will. He's the real victim He was constantly being pushed - worldwide fame for decades, millions of fans, vast wealth, on the verge of winning an Oscar, etc. Who could blame him for taking his misplaced anger out in front of a worldwide audience?

He has no excuse. Even if he got a divorce and she got half his money. He'd still have enough for 3 lifetimes.

by Anonymousreply 32June 18, 2025 4:12 PM

He always looks like he is on the verge of tears. Crying is good for you but if you're crying all the fucking time, something is wrong. You don't need to be fixed, you need to heal and a cult can't heal you.

by Anonymousreply 33June 18, 2025 4:15 PM

R24=shitstain.

by Anonymousreply 34June 18, 2025 4:20 PM

Idiot seems to be the tepid nancyboy insult around here.

Why are you sticking up for Chris Rock who by all accounts is a cunt. You people don't know what actual violence is.

by Anonymousreply 35June 18, 2025 4:38 PM

You weren't raised correctly. It's inappropriate to assault, insult and harass your peers. Keep your hands to yourself. Stay your drunk ass home.

by Anonymousreply 36June 18, 2025 4:41 PM

R24 = Will or someone with a long rap sheet

by Anonymousreply 37June 18, 2025 4:49 PM

Alexyss K. Tylor knows.

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by Anonymousreply 38June 18, 2025 4:58 PM

Boo-fucking-hoo

by Anonymousreply 39June 18, 2025 5:03 PM

[Quote] I don't care about Will Smith or Chris Rock generally but the facts are Chris Rock is a cunt and a pussy, that was a bitch slap not a punch and it would be a nothing burger if it was on the street, not televized.

But it was done on a worldwide stage—movies’ biggest celebration.

by Anonymousreply 40June 18, 2025 6:27 PM

[quote] I think the man had been pushed and pushed and pushed and something exploded on Oscar night.

How much can one man be expected to take?? He had been so voiceless and unprivileged up until that night.

by Anonymousreply 41June 18, 2025 6:37 PM

Smith refers to himself in the piece in the 3rd person as "Will Smith", which is a sign he's really gone deep into his narcissism.

by Anonymousreply 42June 18, 2025 6:39 PM

"The addiction to the approval of JADA that I had to dissolve, it was brutal." FIFY.

He would never have been in this mess if it wasn't for Jada. And she has shown she doesn't give a fuck. She's beyond a narcissist. Fucking your son's friend? WTH? Then bringing your husband on your show to talk about it - humiliate him and say you did it 'because I wanted to feel good'. WHA?

I really think if he dropped Jada, a lot would be forgiven. But you're staying with this toxic woman for what reason?

I think she has blackmail on him - a lot of it.

by Anonymousreply 43June 18, 2025 6:46 PM

Very few people care about Will Smith and his brand anymore. He canceled himself. Sorry he doesn't like the repercussions of his actions now? Suck it up buttercup.

He showed the world the level of crazy he was living in and with, and took it out on someone in the most public way possible, with no need to. He is OVER, DONE.

by Anonymousreply 44June 18, 2025 6:56 PM

Sadly some healing is still needed.

by Anonymousreply 45June 18, 2025 7:38 PM

Culture is destiny.

by Anonymousreply 46June 18, 2025 8:11 PM

Beat her.

by Anonymousreply 47June 18, 2025 8:35 PM

As long as he is not honest about himself, he will continue to internalise self-hatred.

by Anonymousreply 48June 18, 2025 8:42 PM

I agree @R24

by Anonymousreply 49June 18, 2025 8:47 PM

I haven[t watched or cared about the Academy Awards since then.

by Anonymousreply 50June 18, 2025 9:17 PM

FUCK THIS PHONY.

by Anonymousreply 51June 18, 2025 9:21 PM

Here's the thing - all he has to do is read the internet the past 3 years.

Everyone is saying to ditch Jada. Honestly, if he does that, things can mend. But people do not like them together - and he should know that crazy bitch isn't good for him by now.

She must have some real dirt on him.

by Anonymousreply 52June 18, 2025 9:51 PM

[quote]Everyone is saying to ditch Jada. Honestly, if he does that, things can mend.

Why do you say that? She may be a huge part of the problem, but she's certainly not all of it. Don't you think he's a narcissistic POS in his own right?

by Anonymousreply 53June 18, 2025 9:59 PM

I think they have a comfortable arrangement. I also think she's just as gay as he is, but Scientology frowns on that, so they've found a good workaround.

by Anonymousreply 54June 18, 2025 10:04 PM

[quote]I also think she's just as gay as he is, but Scientology frowns on that, so they've found a good workaround.

Do you mean you think they've always been bearding for each other because Scientology vastly prefers that to their being openly gay? That sounds plausible, and presumably the Scientos have that information to hold over them -- especially over Will -- to keep him in line and keep him giving presumably huge amounts of money to them, with the threat they would expose him and ruin his career if he ever left Scientology or stepped out of line.

by Anonymousreply 55June 18, 2025 10:18 PM

[quote]Do you mean you think they've always been bearding for each other because Scientology vastly prefers that to their being openly gay?

Yes. Scentos, from what I understand, are not pro gay. Someone on here, years ago, explained the church's position.

by Anonymousreply 56June 18, 2025 10:26 PM

Yes, R56, it's common knowledge that they are NOT pro-gay, which is one reason why your theory that Jada and Will have been bearding for each other all these years sounds plausible. In case you haven't hears, some people think the Scientos have kept other stars in line by threatening them with exposure as gay, including possibly Tom Cruise, John Travolta, and others.

by Anonymousreply 57June 18, 2025 10:38 PM

Who cares?

by Anonymousreply 58June 18, 2025 10:38 PM

Travolta being the most convincing example.

by Anonymousreply 59June 18, 2025 10:39 PM

The Hood comes to the Oscars.

by Anonymousreply 60June 18, 2025 10:59 PM

If he’s still alive the fall out wasn’t brutal enough.I always hated that prick. Wild Wild West-please.

by Anonymousreply 61June 18, 2025 11:16 PM

He likes sex with men, is attracted to men, but cannot balance that with his public persona and growing up having to be macho. He is violent to his male partners, one getting so badly beaten he nearly died and threatend to sue him.

by Anonymousreply 62June 18, 2025 11:17 PM

R46 Tell us about it. You see wtf we dealing with because of white people.

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by Anonymousreply 63June 18, 2025 11:21 PM

Should have been taken out in handcuffs.

And the Oscar should have been rescinded.

by Anonymousreply 64June 18, 2025 11:26 PM

He’s a typical American black. ALWAYS with the victimhood mentality. The violent behavior is ALWAYS someone else’s fault.

by Anonymousreply 65June 18, 2025 11:27 PM

How cucked is Will that he’s about to win an Oscar - that he probably knows he’s going to win in about 30 minutes - that he goes up on stage to slap Rock for telling a lame joke about Jada. More than anything, it was a bizarre overreaction when initially you could see Will laugh at the joke. Either Jada pushed him in the moment to react like the good little cuck he is, or he’s got mental issues. Though the two aren’t mutually exclusive. But he should have been on a high, so his flex was bizarre.

by Anonymousreply 66June 18, 2025 11:27 PM

FF R24

by Anonymousreply 67June 18, 2025 11:29 PM

Will was being weird all night. Overly emotional and teary. Should have stayed his drunk ass home.

by Anonymousreply 68June 18, 2025 11:31 PM

This bitch is going to find out about not being able to control your emotions. If Mike Epps was hosting, he wouldn’t have done that shit because he knows he would have been laid the fuck out in front of 23 million people.

by Anonymousreply 69June 18, 2025 11:32 PM

Agree with all about how he should have been escorted out and how horrible it was having everyone applauding shortly after.

What astounds me is the level of oblivion and narcissism. You never got an actual apology or any sort of real contrition. Even now, he makes it all about himself. Despicable.

And whatever Jada has done or has on him, ultimately he is a fifty year old guy. There is a limit to blaming others to your actions. If he is so submissive to her, that is fully on him.

by Anonymousreply 70June 18, 2025 11:40 PM

Like many celebrities who become involved in scandals, it is not actually the scandal that kills their career, but rather it is the fact that the scandal somehow reveals that the “beloved” celeb was not really very popular at all.

Honestly, has the public really missed Will Smith over the past few years?

by Anonymousreply 71June 19, 2025 12:04 AM

Ww r21

by Anonymousreply 72June 19, 2025 12:08 AM

I saw that Will Smith was cracking in this Youtube docuseries that he put out in 2021 before THE SLAP. The King Richard and Covid weight gain and writing his memoir spiraled him into a major midlife crisis (along with that horrible reveal of Jada's affair).

Its also worth nothing that the singer who Jada had an affair with (August Alsina) is now out as gay now with a long term boyfriend.

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by Anonymousreply 73June 19, 2025 12:08 AM

When you take on Chris Rock you need to finish him

by Anonymousreply 74June 19, 2025 12:17 AM

I think it’s worth noting the something like this HAS happened before… Russell Crowe snapped at BAFTA and lost a near-certain second Oscar.

There seems to be some oversight on the psychological effect of “award season.” It is brutal.

ChatGPT:

Awards Season as a Prolonged Psychological Endurance Test

• Duration & Intensity: Campaigns last months, with actors having to constantly perform charm, humility, and graciousness — all while being scrutinized at every angle (clothes, speech, body language, personal life).

• Will Smith: Spent months on a grueling, emotionally confessional campaign for King Richard, presenting himself as the elder statesman of Hollywood. By Oscar night, he was visibly frayed.

Public Persona vs. Private Self

• Awards season demands that nominees sculpt a digestible, PR-friendly identity. The gap between this version and their private self can create a psychic rupture.

• Will Smith: Built a pristine, carefully manicured public image over decades. The Oscar slap shattered it in five seconds, revealing deep emotional repression.

Awards Season as Psychological Exposure

• In interviews, actors must dig into their traumas to “humanize” their roles. This emotional striptease is praised but leaves people raw.

• Smith’s campaign involved repeated retellings of abuse, control issues, and emotional disintegration.

Performing Gratitude While Dying Inside

• Nominees must constantly express gratitude and humility, even when losing. The ritual humiliation of public defeat — cameras catching your “reaction face” — is psychologically degrading.

by Anonymousreply 75June 19, 2025 12:23 AM

He's trying so hard with his apology tour. His movies flop. His albums flop. He's over

by Anonymousreply 76June 19, 2025 12:24 AM

R75, when you're paid millions for a movie role, do you think it's because of your grand talent? No, it's because all the awards season stuff and the annoying fans come along with the package.

by Anonymousreply 77June 19, 2025 12:25 AM

[quote] Its also worth nothing that the singer who Jada had an affair with (August Alsina) is now out as gay now with a long term boyfriend.

She seems to have that affect on men.

by Anonymousreply 78June 19, 2025 1:13 AM

I can't imagine how stupid Smith must be (on top of the Scientology cult insanity). What did he think was going to happen when he climbed up on stage and physically assaulted a peer while being filmed and seen by millions of people!

His major attraction was that he was a likeable actor. He killed his career in that instant and it can't be repaired to the people who pay for and supported his career (the public). He must be mind-numbingly stupid. And his wife is toxic and insufferable which also equals mind-numbingly stupid.

Both of their public lives and Hollywood careers are dead in the water. He should just be thankful for what he had and move on and enjoy the rest of his life because it's all downhill and self-inflicted humiliation from here.

by Anonymousreply 79June 19, 2025 1:14 AM

Does the public still love a comeback? I'd say it's still too soon but I can see it happening down the road with the right role. And major changes in his life.

by Anonymousreply 80June 19, 2025 1:36 AM

i do love a comeback. i root for the underdog. hes not an underdog, hes a performer who made the entertainment industry billions. there's room for someone who has made so much money for 1 industry, but he needs a clean up/exorcism/psychiatric treatment/medication/ cult deprogramming/divorce.

by Anonymousreply 81June 19, 2025 1:43 AM

He should talk more about how Cleopatra was black.

by Anonymousreply 82June 19, 2025 1:59 AM

R82 Why troll a thread concerning a millionaire troll, suffering from narcissistic rage?

by Anonymousreply 83June 19, 2025 2:02 AM

Does Jada still do her narcissistic, emasculating “Red Table” crap with her junkie, slut mom? That garbage precipitated the beginning of the end for that brood.

by Anonymousreply 84June 19, 2025 2:05 AM

He has always, even way before the slap, made me cringe. The slap was undoubtedly awful, and he deserved the shunning he got. However, I do think that folks, even ones I don't like, should get a chance at redemption. He still makes me cringe, though.

by Anonymousreply 85June 19, 2025 2:14 AM

They should enjoy their big pile of money, and just be quiet for a few decades.

by Anonymousreply 87June 19, 2025 2:23 AM

He needs to disappear for a while. Several years. Redemption requires taking responsibility.

I should have been more specific. And the arrogance needs to drop a few more notches.

by Anonymousreply 88June 19, 2025 2:23 AM

What do you mean? He just recently did a Bad Boys movie that was a huge hit. People who are over aren't pulling a half a billion dollars at the box office.

by Anonymousreply 89June 19, 2025 2:27 AM

To be pilloried publicly for slapping and clapping by all comers, first dibs Chris Rock, might do the trick.

His album flopped to the worst numbers of his entire career, not cracking the top 200. And he has no projects upcoming in front of the camera. His best bet is to stay down low, quietly involved in production.

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by Anonymousreply 90June 19, 2025 2:40 AM

R90 Imma get these black traitors on my Red Table Talk chile’.

by Anonymousreply 91June 19, 2025 2:58 AM

He's got $350M. He should take a decade off, wander the world, get therapy, get spiritual, release an acoustic album, a book of poetry, an autobiography, return in his 60s and get wise man or aged secret heroes roles.

by Anonymousreply 92June 19, 2025 3:07 AM

His movie comeback in a decade will be a supporting role

by Anonymousreply 93June 19, 2025 3:48 AM

Jada-that’s what they call her.

by Anonymousreply 94June 19, 2025 4:05 AM

Has GAYle King commented? It's not official until we get her opinion.

by Anonymousreply 95June 19, 2025 1:24 PM

R5 said it best

by Anonymousreply 96June 19, 2025 1:42 PM

The closet kills.

by Anonymousreply 97June 19, 2025 1:51 PM

It saddens me how much of a fall he's taken - he was an A-list star for over 30 years. That's incredibly difficult to maintain that type of popularity and it's extremely rare.

Unlike Tom Cruise and Mel Gibson, both who have said offensive and stupid stuff and have acted really weird over YEARS, Will did one awful incident - slapping a comedian.

In the grand scheme of things, this should be forgivable when compared to Kevin Spacey, Cruise, Gibson and others who have fallen. But when you're still 'with' this person who has embarrassed him and who has said some really out there stuff (Jada indeed has), people cannot support someone who is in what looks like an abusive situation. Mo'nique is kind of similar - it's like they've both left their mind under the control of their spouses.

Unfortunately, this also came at a time when roles would be more difficult to get. Once you're past 55, you've aged out of action films and a lot of romcom.

He deserves a 2nd chance, if he dumps Jada. It was completely inappropriate and way too public. But he didn't say anything offensive against groups of people or stated positions that are anti-science or whatever.

by Anonymousreply 98June 19, 2025 3:11 PM

r98 the difference is he did it Live in front of millions at hallowed ground. There is not a lot of coming back from that if you don't just take reponsibility head on.

by Anonymousreply 99June 19, 2025 3:13 PM

R99 - Yeah I agree - the absolute WORST place to do this - both in front of the most powerful people in the Hollywood and telecasting that to billions of fans/consumers around the world. It really was the worst place and the worst time.

But - it's still a slap. To me, it's not remotely on par with Spacey, Cruise, Gibson, Barr, Weinstein, Cosby, Louis C.K. - the list goes on an on.

It shouldn't be dismissed as it should never be tolerated - but big picture, a one-off that hurt him a ton more than it hurt anyone else, including Chris Rock.

by Anonymousreply 100June 19, 2025 3:21 PM

[quote]He deserves a 2nd chance...if he dumps Jada

Dumps Jada or re-declares his undying worm-like love of her...who fucking cares? What does that have anything to do with, any more than what color underwear he prefers?

FFS, why does someone with a 30 year career and a net worth of $350 Million who stood before his peers and the world and gave his best, most ferocious sissy slap to an equally famous awards presenter deserve a second chance?

Whether he makes anything of his career again or fumbles around forever trying, I don't give a fuck. I never liked his too eager to please nervousness, his stupid psychobabble, and acting that's only passable if you've never seen him anything previously.

We should feel sorry for this this man who assaulted another one stage and set him back on track to raise his net worth to...$500 Million? I don't get it

by Anonymousreply 101June 19, 2025 3:25 PM

Whataboutism, especially regarding the vagaries of public opinion, is childish and unpersuasive.

Try a different tactic.

by Anonymousreply 102June 19, 2025 3:32 PM

"Working in that space of authenticity, honesty and imperfection, allowing that to grow into a higher perfection than the imagery of Will Smith is where I am as an artist and as a human right now."

Did Cynthia and Arianna ghost write this?

by Anonymousreply 103June 19, 2025 3:44 PM

I really think he must have been high on coke when he slapped Chris Rock. There aren’t very many reasons why someone could have POSSIBLY thought that was a good idea under those specific circumstances. Coke is something that can overcome those protective inhibitions.

by Anonymousreply 104June 19, 2025 3:46 PM

[quote]"Working in that space of authenticity, honesty and imperfection, allowing that to grow into a higher perfection than the imagery of Will Smith is where I am as an artist and as a human right now."

This statement sounds especially and unbearably fake because it's laughable to think this particular person has the vocabulary and language skills to put such thoughts together. I mean, even if you like Will Smith as a performer and/or as a person, he has never been accused of being an intellectual.

by Anonymousreply 105June 19, 2025 4:07 PM
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by Anonymousreply 106June 19, 2025 4:11 PM

What kind of propaganda is that at R106? IMDb shows him in zero films in actual production and with no films released since last year.

Smith has been a POS and a poor excuse for an actor ever since he refused to kiss a man, which was a crucial part of the plot in Six Degrees of Separation.

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by Anonymousreply 107June 19, 2025 7:44 PM

R84 Why are you calling her mom a junkie and a slut when she’s been clean for decades.

by Anonymousreply 108June 19, 2025 11:37 PM

"Working in that space of authenticity, honesty and imperfection, allowing that to grow into a higher perfection than the imagery of Will Smith is where I am as an artist and as a human right now."

THAT is Jada speak - have you seen her show? Seriously - she thinks she's really deep and spiritual and says shit like this all the time. It's what a dumb person thinks intelligence sounds like.

Will wouldn't say crap like that. So weird and culty way of talking. But - make no doubts - that's Jada's handwriting or thoughts being spoon fed to him.

by Anonymousreply 109June 20, 2025 12:23 AM

R109 A small faction.

by Anonymousreply 110June 20, 2025 12:30 AM

Why does it matter whether he divorces the wife or not?

He slapped someone, not her.

by Anonymousreply 111June 20, 2025 1:56 AM

If he thinks this fallout is brutal, imagine if he was a white actor who strode onstage and socked Chris Rock after a joke.

by Anonymousreply 112June 20, 2025 2:12 AM

I mean, how many of us can go up and hit someone in the face at work in front of everyone and if we did, what would the fall out be? He is trying to act like he is suffering as a public figure who made a mistake- but it was actually a pretty crazy mistake, it wasn't minor. None of us would keep our jobs either and our reputations would suffer as well.

by Anonymousreply 113June 20, 2025 2:21 AM

R112 A white actor of Will’s stature wouldn’t have did it. Will felt small and insecure during that moment so he wanted to make Chris feel small and insecure. That’s what those who undergo narcissistic rage do. They cannot control that image when that ego has been brutally hurt to such a degree.

But I know my black people. If it were Eddie Griffin, Deray Davis, hell even Steve Harvey bitch ass, not nay buttock would have risen from seat. I I said what the fuck I said.

by Anonymousreply 114June 20, 2025 2:28 AM

R100 all the people you listed don't really have careers, except Cruise (and, while I loathe him, I'm not sure why he's lumped in with the others listed. Is his crime couch jumping or just his off putting weird cult shit?)

So, I guess I'm having trouble getting your point.

To go down your list:

Gibson is a drunk, anti-Semitic monster but calling someone Sugar Tits isn't a crime. Gross and disgusting. But not a crime. Yet his career was basically over after that tape leaked.

Barr and Spacey totally lost their careers for their horrible choices (though Spacey seems to be more a sex pest than a criminal).

Harvey, Cosby, Louis all got cancelled and deserved to get cancelled. They committed crimes. Lost careers. Lost freedom (at least for a while).

Will committed a crime too. He just wasn't charged. And he lost his career.

Seems like the punishments for all their respective crimes have been pretty evenly handed out.

Do you give Will more grace because it wasn't a sex crime? Because I do not.

by Anonymousreply 115June 20, 2025 4:26 AM

He needs to give up and go away.

by Anonymousreply 116June 20, 2025 5:41 AM

He shut down for a MINUTE, folks. A WHOLE MINUTE.

Nobody can begin to understand the depths of this man’s pain.

He had to suffer for a whole 60 seconds, and all he got was a crummy Oscar.

by Anonymousreply 117June 20, 2025 6:38 AM

He has made this Oscar Slap ALL about him since the beginning. Instead of a sincere honest apology, accepting responsibility and disappearing for a good long while - he has turned his assault of Chris Rock into how it has made him a better person.

by Anonymousreply 118June 20, 2025 7:51 AM

R115 I wouldn't put Louis in the same league as Cosby. Hell, I wouldn't even put Harvey in the same league. Cosby gives off very strong serial killer vibes with drugging and raping comatose bodies. He got off on fucking lifeless women. That is some very deep and twisted shit. And he did this for over five decades. You KNOW, with all of his money and his ability to hide, and to travel under the radar in pre-internet days to far flung places, not all of his victims were Hollywood wannabe starlets who made it out alive. I wouldn't put it past him to have some deal with a morgue somewhere on the sex tourism circuit to get recently deceased room temp bodies .

by Anonymousreply 119June 20, 2025 8:01 AM

R115 - I was just comparing the severity of what Will did versus the others who were also cancelled. Will acted a fool and did it in the most public way - but the harm he caused was mainly to himself and his reputation.

The others on the list were sexual predators, abusers, and said hateful things repeatedly about other groups (Barr, Gibson, etc). All I was saying is that the 'harm' Will did wasn't on the same level as the harm the others did to other people.

He didn't abuse anyone, he didn't put people in bad sexual situations, he didn't call people or groups horrible names repeatedly.

For me, that's a huge difference. You may see it differently. I'm all for calling out people who are abusive and hateful - but Will doesn't fit into that category. Yes, a slap is physical abuse, but it was an isolated incident.

I'm just trying to level-up the societal harm of what he did versus my list - and it's practically nothing compared to those others.

by Anonymousreply 120June 20, 2025 2:34 PM

R120, I do get your point, but the way I see it, some people can and should be canceled for various reasons, and sometimes those reasons are quite different from each other. Although it's very true that Will Smith did not cause damage anywhere near the level of the predators and abusers you mention, what he did was such an outrageous, probably unprecedented violation of basic civil behavior at a major public event that his career should have ended completely at that exact moment. And I certainly agree with others that, after the punch (or slap or whatever it was), he should have been escorted out of the venue by security, though I'm honestly not sure how I think the subsequent awarding of his Oscar should have been handled. That's a tough one.

by Anonymousreply 121June 20, 2025 3:58 PM

R121 - I don't really agree. It was a one-off. Meanwhile, we've re-embraced Robert Downey Jr who broke into people's houses and was on heroin for years and years.

There are scores of celebrities who have done things that are anti-social and disapproved behavior but we've forgiven over time.

It was a slap - it just happened to be the most public way possible of doing it. Breaching decorum at the Oscars isn't on par with doing drugs with prostitutes, smashing hotel rooms, yelling and intimidating fellow actors and crew onset, etc.

There's no pattern of behavior like there has been for everyone else. It was 30 seconds and a regretful decision obviously. But I know I will only forgive him if he dumps Jada for good.

by Anonymousreply 122June 20, 2025 5:24 PM

R122, I guess my feeling is that IF Will Smith had issued an abject apology for the slap, admitted that what he did was completely beyond the pale, and took full responsibility for his own ridiculous actions, then I might feel differently. But of course, he has done nothing of the kind.

Also, I don't agree with you that there is no pattern of bad behavior by Will Smith. I believe he has been considered an extremely difficult person to work with ever since he refused to kiss a male actor in his first major film role in SIX DEGREES OF SEPARATION, and there have been many stories of his misbehavior during location shoots of movies. No, nothing as outrageous as slapping/punching a fellow actor on live TV, but one could view that as a not-unexpected climax of bad behavior over a period of many years.

P.S. My feelings about the slap/punch would probably also be very different is Smith had been escorted from the venue by security right after the incident, but of course, the fact that this didn't happen was not up to him.

by Anonymousreply 123June 20, 2025 5:40 PM

Are they still Scientologist?

by Anonymousreply 124June 20, 2025 8:48 PM

It wasn’t exactly uplifting for Chris Rock either. He played it off well. Just really one of the most pointedly ridiculous things on the Oscars. Right up there with Rob Lowe and Snow White….

by Anonymousreply 125June 20, 2025 8:51 PM

No reflection of responsibility in moral or ethical terms.

Me me me me me me me me (victim) me me me me (better man now because I was addicted to approval and fixed me even though I'm a masochist into payback) me me me.

Typical and yet of a nasty stink.

by Anonymousreply 126June 20, 2025 8:52 PM

He deserves a vicious face-slap

by Anonymousreply 127June 20, 2025 8:53 PM

R120, I don't think it was a one-off. I think it's the only time he was caught on camera.

This wasn't a "heat of the moment" crime. He had PLENTY of time to think about what he was about to do. It wasn't a split second bad reaction. He thought about the joke(s). His face soured. Then, he slowly walked up to the stage. Stood over Chris. Then slapped the fuck out of him. His actions were thoughtful. So thoughtful that many people (myself included) thought it was a skit of some sort.

I don't think it was the first time he used violence to make a point. I just don't.

And you keep saying no one was hurt by his actions. I think Chris Rock was hurt! It seemed just as demoralizing as a sex pest's actions. At least to me.

And since you brought up Downey: He took full responsibility for his shitty actions. He didn't blame others or play the victim. Oh, he also paid for his crimes by spending time in prison. So there's that.

by Anonymousreply 128June 20, 2025 8:53 PM

Not brutal enough if he is still out there making commwnts about it

by Anonymousreply 129June 20, 2025 9:35 PM

I can't in a million years imagine the level of audacity it would take to walk up to someone in front of close to a billion people and assault them - and think that you are in the right. It's not that you feel you are getting away with something, but you feel your position in the world gives you the right to do it. The thought process behind this even being an option is beyond the highest levels of ego mania that I have ever witnessed. He thought he was doing something just. What fucking world is he living in? That's what knocks it off the charts. People like RDJ were sick with addiction. I am sure every time he got high, on some level he knew he was destroying himself. Will Smith didn't think, "Fuck it, I am going to risk it all." He thought this was absolutely what was expected of him and that he was justified in doing it. No, he should be banished. It was completely gross.

by Anonymousreply 130June 20, 2025 10:23 PM

[quote]I can't in a million years imagine the level of audacity it would take to walk up to someone in front of close to a billion people and assault them - and think that you are in the right. It's not that you feel you are getting away with something, but you feel your position in the world gives you the right to do it. The thought process behind this even being an option is beyond the highest levels of ego mania that I have ever witnessed.

Absolutely agreed, of course. As far as I'm concerned, the only possible explanation is that he was high on some sort of drugs at the time and/or that he has developed a serious mental illness.

by Anonymousreply 131June 21, 2025 12:01 AM

I always thought he was high

by Anonymousreply 132June 21, 2025 12:03 AM

Honestly, if he was high, I'd be more willing to forgive him. Or at least understand his choice.

But he's never said anything of the sort.

by Anonymousreply 133June 21, 2025 1:08 AM

He'd have to admit it.

by Anonymousreply 134June 21, 2025 1:13 AM

The poor thing! He's the real victim here.

by Anonymousreply 135June 21, 2025 1:16 AM

Beat him.

by Anonymousreply 136June 21, 2025 5:27 PM

How is discussing this ‘’person’’ so popular? He will never leave that ‘’Jada’’ she owns him as she knows where all bodies are buried ( dud sucks dick) The End.

by Anonymousreply 137June 22, 2025 7:24 AM

That hideous wife Jada always reminded me of the 1984 Dune character The Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam-(played by Sian Phillips)

by Anonymousreply 138June 22, 2025 7:35 AM

Don´t touch the merchandise

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by Anonymousreply 139June 22, 2025 11:43 AM

Glad the industry and public has thrown him to the curb along with his trash mentality. "All he did was slap someone." Maybe that's normal for you, anon, but the rest of us want nothing to do with that sort of animalistic behavior.

by Anonymousreply 140June 22, 2025 12:17 PM

I really loathe what he did, so I am not excusing it, but I sort of understand it. He's afraid of his wife and her reaction. I mean, really afraid. At the time, Will laughed along with the joke and then he saw Jada's face. When he saw her face, his face looked "oh shit!" and that's when he got up and slapped Chris Rock. I think he knew that he was fucked with Jada and that blind panic at her anticipated reaction made him get up and show her that he wasn't going along with it. His subsequent failure to take any responsibility for the slap? He can't admit that it was wrong because Jada thinks he did the right thing in defending her honor.

by Anonymousreply 141June 22, 2025 12:51 PM

[quote] I agree with [R2]. I still blame Jada for all of this. The woman made him a laughing stock. I know it's "cheaper to keep her," but I'd give up half just to get her out of my life. That woman is toxic.

Nah, fuck that. Will is a weak cuck. And I hate the term cuck. He’s the one choosing not to divorce her.

by Anonymousreply 142June 22, 2025 1:02 PM

He’s done nothing to make this right, not that he could.

It’s been so long since we’ve had a celebrity autoerotic asphyxiation.

by Anonymousreply 143June 22, 2025 2:32 PM

[quote] I can't in a million years imagine the level of audacity it would take to walk up to someone in front of close to a billion people and assault them - and think that you are in the right.

Well, it helps if your peers give you two standing ovations just minutes after the assault, and if you then head off to a nice VIP party.

by Anonymousreply 144June 22, 2025 5:07 PM

Has he been doing volunteer work any where? He should be helping in the soup kitchen or something like that...

by Anonymousreply 145June 22, 2025 6:16 PM

He didn't just slap Chris Rock. He strutted back to his seat and then yelled, twice, at Rock to keep his wife's name out of his fucking mouth. On live TV watched by who-knows-how-many. He really thought he was above everything at that point. I think coke is a good guess.

by Anonymousreply 146June 22, 2025 7:42 PM

Or maybe he was stone cold sober and he's a complete piece of shit anyway.

by Anonymousreply 147June 22, 2025 10:46 PM

Quite possible.

by Anonymousreply 148June 22, 2025 11:32 PM

The weirdest part was the standing ovation. So damn dumb.

by Anonymousreply 149June 23, 2025 6:02 AM

I can’t imagine a major star on his level finally up for winning the best actor award doing a bunch of coke before hand. I think it was just all him. .

by Anonymousreply 150June 23, 2025 8:42 AM

Nah, think of the standing ovation from the audience’s perspective. They didn’t know what the fuck was going on. Some people thought it was a bit, especially as the producers didn’t do their due diligence and ask him to leave. He humiliated himself on international TV on the night that was the culmination of his career in a way that outdid anything this wife is blamed for. In moment I actually thought there was a good chance Will would go outside and commit self harm.

It’s the same reason why some people went and checked on him after the slap and hugged him. Like, look at Lupita’s face. Just stunned and trying to not to look freaked out. They were all trapped in that room for the next 2 hours. They treated him like the weird uncle who goes nuts at Christmas lunch. He’s in the wrong, and there is another victim, but the instinct is to quiet everything down while in the background people are arranging to drive him to the hospital.

So in that perspective, the audience gave a standing ovation because they were self-soothing and pretending everything is normal.

by Anonymousreply 151June 23, 2025 8:50 AM

Jada has alopecia like Michael Jackson had vitiligo.

by Anonymousreply 152June 23, 2025 12:59 PM

R151, that's an in interesting theory, and you're probably right about the reason for the standing ovation....BUT I still think it was a horribly wrong and shocking thing for them to do.

by Anonymousreply 153June 23, 2025 2:46 PM

The Slap.

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by Anonymousreply 154June 23, 2025 2:54 PM

[quote] that's an in interesting theory, and you're probably right about the reason for the standing ovation....BUT I still think it was a horribly wrong and shocking thing for them to do.

Shocking, I agree. But I don’t blame them for not responding the way most people would prefer. It’s on him. It’s alllllll on him.

I went to a Catholic school and my third grade teacher was a psychotic ex nun. She was physically and emotionally violent. I remember one day in Winter I could not cough out loud (this was a Catholic school and this had zero heating and little insulation) because the noise set her off and she threatened to throw the books of the rogue cougher out the window. So I sat for 2 hours silent, unable to even clear my throat because I was frightened about my books.

That is exactly what Lupita’s face looked like. The fear, the walking on eggshells, the placating. I know a captive audience when I see one!

by Anonymousreply 155June 23, 2025 4:49 PM

Interesting, R155, but I think there's a huge difference between the two situations of (1) you as a third grader in school and (2) all those rich, famous adults at a major social event.

by Anonymousreply 156June 23, 2025 4:59 PM

But it’s the same reaction, r156.

There is very little people trapped in that room could do. They couldn’t walk out of the Oscars, it was their night too. Them being rich and famous in that scenario doesn’t make it easier for them. Most of them are if not friends, then friendly with him; they watched one of their peers commit a crime and were forced to keep the show on the road.

I am wondering what good it would do Lupita to sit on her hands?

by Anonymousreply 157June 23, 2025 5:19 PM

Plus...Jada doesn't have alopecia. If she did, there would not be any stubble, and you can see she has a full head of hair...

by Anonymousreply 158June 23, 2025 5:46 PM

Jada has traction alopecia brought on from YEARS of wearing extensions. She did it to herself.

[quote]Hair extensions can, in some cases, cause a type of hair loss called traction alopecia due to the constant pulling on the hair follicles. This can result in thinning or bald patches, particularly around the hairline where extensions are often attached. While not all hair extensions will cause this, it's important to be aware of the risks and take steps to minimize potential damage.

by Anonymousreply 159June 23, 2025 6:14 PM

R98, Chris Rock doesn't forgive him. Chris Rock's kids don't forgive will smith either. Will Smith's not apologetic.

He's and that caustic cunt wife of his had a long run. Keep these old delusional fucks canceled

by Anonymousreply 160June 23, 2025 8:00 PM

[quote]They watched one of their peers commit a crime and were forced to keep the show on the road.

Understood and agreed, but the VERY least they could have done was to have refused to applaud or cheer when the asshole won his award, rather than giving him a goddamn standing ovation.

by Anonymousreply 161June 24, 2025 4:58 AM

I agree that it’s a bad look for sure r161. Probably sitting in their seats and applauding would have been the most sensible solution.

But it’s not like they had weeks to plan their reaction. His friends and cast members probably gave him a standing ovation in an Operation Will Don’t Go Out And Kill Yourself moment and every else likely thought, “oh so we’re doing this? Um, ok” and stood. It’s kind of like embarrassed contagious laughter.

Sitting on their hands would not have worked I believe. When Brie Larson didn’t applaud for Casey Affleck, she made the story about her. When Eliza Kazan was given an honorary Oscar, about half the audience gave a standing ovation, everyone else sat down and applauded. Apart from Amy Madigan, who sat there with a death stare and her arms crossed. Every one was talking about Amy’s grim little face the next day, it was comical. And this was before blogs were even invented let alone social media.

I fully blame the producers who didn’t insist that Will Smith leave.

by Anonymousreply 162June 24, 2025 7:41 AM

[quote]Will Smith: Oscars slap fallout made me reflect, says star

For about five minutes, max.

by Anonymousreply 163June 24, 2025 7:46 AM

So looking forward to Will Smith thread going away- we’ve posted more than enough about this person.

by Anonymousreply 164June 27, 2025 9:13 PM

Years and years before the red table or the slap, Howard Stern absolutely evicerated Will and Jada on Oprah.

"See, I don't want to be an Icon, I want to be an Idea."

Trust me, give a listen. They are 100% INSUFFERABLE. It's a funny clip.

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by Anonymousreply 165June 28, 2025 8:16 PM

R165 It sounds like Will Smith and Terrence Howard had the same math teacher.

by Anonymousreply 166June 28, 2025 9:38 PM

Will Smith: "You're in a universe and 2+2=4. 2+2 only = 4 if you accept that 2+2=4. 2+2 is going to be what I want it to be."

Terrence Howard: 1x1=2 (He has patented the name Terryology to cover his language of logic.)

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by Anonymousreply 167June 28, 2025 9:55 PM

[quote] So looking forward to Will Smith thread going away- we’ve posted more than enough about this person.

There are new ideas but everyone deserves a chance to vent, even when it gets repetitious. So many of us had to witness it on live tv.

by Anonymousreply 168June 28, 2025 10:08 PM

Well duh? What a clueless man.

by Anonymousreply 169June 28, 2025 11:06 PM

No more brutal than what he did to this iconic part. The man can't sing, so why cast him in a singing role? He doesn't have the charm to pull it off, either.

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by Anonymousreply 170June 29, 2025 2:30 AM

[quote]Smith: Oscars slap fallout made me reflect, says star

In other words, he reflected on the fallout and the harm to his career, not on his vile behavior that caused it all.

by Anonymousreply 171June 29, 2025 7:34 AM

R167 Glad I got rid of him.

by Anonymousreply 172July 6, 2025 4:01 PM
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