Today's 'NO KINGS' protest finally reached the critical 3.5% of the population

And TACO's parade was lame as shit.

45 million dollars for less than 9 thousand attendees.

Have the anti fascist protests reached Vietnam anti war levels?

My local protest was amazing! Huge crowds and 100% peaceful. And in just one small town we had at least half as many people as that steaming pile of shit's parade.

That would make this the largest multi-location, single-day protest in history. For a coordinated, global single-issue movement, the September 2019 climate strikes (6–7.6 million) were the largest known previously…

Incredible!👏👏👏

If anyone is wondering the source of this number it's coming from the National Parks Service that sent volunteers all over the country to do head counts in addition to counts using overhead drone imaging. It could be higher by morning as they are still tallying.

I saw a photo of a woman with a true Datalounger carrying a placard that said

[bold]A POEM

ABOUT NOEM

SHE SHOT HER DOG

SHE'S A CUNT[/bold]

R6 HAHAHAHA!!

3.5%...? can democrats not comprehend what it takes to win a fucking election?

It was really amazing to see so many people.

There were thousands in Cincinnati at UC. It didn’t rain. The crowd was energized yet peaceful. All ages were out and I only saw one maggot.

The line of people marching was at least a mile long and five people deep. Really amazing.

TRUMP=TACO!!!

I was at gay pride in Boston today and the parade went on HOURS longer than expected

3.5% is a tipping point in movements for social change (according to Harvard's Kennedy School).

That’s a made-up number.

I'll trust Harvard over you, R13.

11.6 million? I doubt it. Where are you getting that? Even MSNBC is only claiming 1 million.

R15 you seem like a real cunt.

What does "no kings" even mean? Western countries with k in kings today are stable democracies. Even in the days when the US was part of the British kingdom or whatever the kings were not involved in running it.

Where did "Harvard" say that and what does it even mean in practice, especially against elected governments?

Yeah R15-A real cunt

In your Google search bar, type "3.5% rule" and "Harvard." Hit 'enter.'

[quote]What does "no kings" even mean? Western countries with k in kings today are stable democracies. Even in the days when the US was part of the British kingdom or whatever the kings were not involved in running it.

Not to sound unkind, but do you have any conception of history prior to the twentieth century, and of the historical connotations of the word "king"? Have you heard the expression "rules like a king", or heard of French absolutism and the absolute monarchs who dominated pre-revolutionary France? Monarchies ruled the world dating back to Mesopotamia 4,000 years ago, and really until the end of the British Empire in the mid-twentieth century. It's relatively recently that many countries were replaced with republics. Kings and queens used to control the most powerful countries on the globe. "No Kings" is certainly an apt slogan for a "day of defiance" against the current president.

I did that, r20, and absolutely nowhere does it say that "Harvard" came up with it. A they/them female researcher at Harvard came up with it, but she's just one person at Harvard, she is not "Harvard". Presumably Harvard employs people with a range of views, even some who disagree with each other. Moreover, no one else has replicated this woman's data and she has not really applied it to countries where there are elections and where the aim is to overthrow the democratically elected political leadership. In addition, the only protest group that appears to have been inspired by her theories - eco warriors Extinction Rebellion in the UK, who thought if they could get 3.5% of the population at their demos then this would lead to the adoption of the policies they support - actually turned more people against them with their demos and now the government is in fact reversing many of its formerly "green" policies. So, the 3.5% theory failed miserably in that case.

R22 we get it. You're MAGA.

Super stoked for you.

I'm not even American, r23, but it's hilarious that your reply to someone asking about the 3.5% claim is "you're MAGA!". R8 is right. The attitude you represent is why the Democrats lose.

R17, most Americans under middle age have got their idea of American history from Hamilton.

Yes, r21, I know quite a bit about monarchies prior to the 20th century and the "no kings" slogan as a supposedly anti-authoritarian slogan is nonsense and displays no real understanding of how kingdoms were governed, especially the kingdom that the US was once part of. As an attempt at political analysis, it's very naive. What on earth does Mesopotamia have to do with contemporary America?

Kings have never ruled in the way that Trump's critics are accusing him of. Kings have in fact always sought a balance between the various institutions of power, including themselves, their ministers, the regional representatives and powers, the legislature and other institutions depending on the time and place, such as the church.

It's just a dumb slogan that shows shallow political analysis and hence a misunderstanding of why Trump does get the public support he does and why Democrats fail to get the people on board on many issues. Hence, I think it's safe to say that the "No Kings" protests are going to fail in their aims (what are their aims?).

R26, i am not r21, but your post , specially the second paragraph, ignores history. Kings, for most of history, were authoritarian. Louis XIV l’etat c’est moi was the general idea.

Only in the 18th century, after the French Revolution, monarchies started having limitations to their powers and this was pushed back by the kings. A century of revolutions ensued. England was the notorious exception and even it could hardly be called a democracy .

Going a while back, the no king principle was the reason Julius Caesar was assassinated . Rome was a republic then.

meanwhile...

R27, sounds like you didn't study much history about kingdoms at school and very little after. And even if you're correct, what does 17th-century France - a completely different world - have to do with the US today? So, when anti-Trump protestors in the US today say "No Kings", they're saying no to Louis XIV? And this is supposed to swing votes to the Democrats?

By the way, who are Trump's Richilieu and Colbert? France became a rich and powerful country under Louis XIV, with a brilliant legacy that still glitters today, so perhaps he wasn't so bad.

R24 my claim that you're MAGA has nothing to do with your 3.5% question. It's the way you write and the words you choose. Using words like "green" and "they/them" pejoratively is classic MAGA.

Oh and let's just use MAGA as a shorthand for conservative. American or not.

So tell me: Are you conservative or liberal? And no BS answer like "I hate both parties".

Just be honest.

[quote]A Change is Gonna Come

Keep hope alive, but I doubt it.

I'm a centre-left British lesbian, r30, so why should I support any American parties? Why the fuck should I take it seriously when a lesbian starts calling herself a they/them to deny she's a lesbian? If you had a brain, then you'd realise that the gender bullshit is a big problem for centre-left political parties - the trans and pronoun demands are a big reason why people in a whole range of countries have been put off voting left or centre-left.

I put "green" in quotation marks to indicate supposedly green government policies, which were barely green to start with and are now dwindling away, under a Labour government.

I'm actually now a non-voter. I would have voted Labour if I could have trusted them on the trans issue, but I couldn't, even if now in government they are fast dropping much of the trans lunacy they previously supported. If I lived in the US I would be a non-voter too.

By the way, r30, if you want to convince Republicans or even independents to vote Democrat, then perhaps don't round on them and start calling them MAGA as a perjorative or tell them that they're idiots and they're wrong. Sometimes people just have different views and if you attack people simply for not sharing your views, then you're only going to strengthen their views.

[quote]I'm actually now a non-voter.

Thank you centre-left British lesbian.

The MAGA troll is really butt hurt.

[quote] Only in the 18th century, after the French Revolution, monarchies started having limitations to their powers and this was pushed back by the kings. A century of revolutions ensued. England was the notorious exception and even it could hardly be called a democracy .

Ahem.

R25 Most Americans don't know shit about Broadway and have never heard of Hamilton.

Apparently some non-voting Euro Lesbians cant decipher between symbolic expressions of corruption and power vs literal interpretations of the word King.

R26 "Kings have in fact always sought a balance between the various institutions of power, including themselves, their ministers, the regional representatives and powers, the legislature and other institutions depending on the time and place, such as the church."

You may want to fact check this. with some actual history.

"No Kings" is an affront to the BRF freaks on DL. They're fapping to pictures of the crown jewels.

Ahem r36

R26 FFS. It’s a slogan to get people fired up. Have you ever heard of marketing/PR? Did you expect the anti-Trump rally organizers to use a long, complicated phrase to perfectly state the issues at hand while also exhorting the people to join in?

I’m the words of dataloungers far greater than I, “Move it along, Toots”!

Now that we know that R32 etc. is a Brit-splaining terf pedant, we can safely ignore her take on the current American scene. As for the "no kings" slogan, it was a direct response to Trump's post on Truth Social (and elsewhere) in February, "Long Live the King" (on his attempt to overturn congestion pricing in NYC), and it taps into the original American rebellion against George III's excesses (which you might have read about in the Declaration of Independence, the works of Thomas Paine, and elsewhere). A perfectly appropriate slogan to oppose a president who's claiming those royal powers. Screw him, and screw the posters raising their little straw men. The protests were a huge success.

Not surprised that you never answered my question about where you got 11.6 million protestors since you clearly pulled that number out of your ass to make your silly point about 3.5% of the population.

Not to mention that the only thing that unites these protestors is opposition to Trump. What kind of “real asocial change”are you expecting?

What unites these millions of protesters is more specifically opposition to Trump's authoritarian program. That's a broad unity. The protests—which took place even in small towns in red areas—let people who oppose that program know that they're not alone, and they let timid Democratic politicians know they have a solid support base to oppose MAGA.

But enough of these faux-naif criticisms. I'm starting to thing some of the posters here are opinion writers for the Times.

Doesn’t the existence of the 48% vote for Harris already demonstrate that there is broad opposition to Trump?

I marched myself. It’s a valuable thing. But it was not a starting bell for “real social change.”

Who’s being naive?

Still no source for the ridiculous number.

Originally, it was to be called the One Big Beautiful Day of Protest. No Kings is much better, as 43 and 44 point out. It’s simply a slogan—not too hard to grasp for most people who aren’t trolls.

R17 Looks like you could use a little history lesson via Schoolhouse Rock.

Enjoy!

[quote] I'm a centre-left British lesbian

Are you sure?

R17 never read the Declaration, nor many others on this thread apparently.

over 10,000 in Dallas, which makes it one of our largest protest marches. zero arrests -no outside agitators seen

If only these people bothered to get out and vote last November.

The point about No Kings is not really a reference to history. It is a direct bebuke to Trump's wish and stylings to be a King like ruler.

R55 The "golly, I never thought it would be this bad" crowd finally wakes up.

Which is frustrating but better late than never

In my city, San Diego, 60,000 were counted, LA had 250k, Chicago 200k. I'm assuming that 1 million protesters nationwide is a bit conversative, maybe 3 million, or 5 which is nothing to sneeze on. The US aren't France where there are protests pretty much twice a day. When 3 million people are rallying for one cause in the US it means something. This is certainly a significant mile stone. Damn proud of our people right now.

The 11.5 million people number is coming from the alt national park service. (The park service personnel are good at crowd estimates and many of them are out of work at the moment having been RIF’fed,)

Axios is reporting 5 million.

Either way huge!! Even my tiny Trump loving home town had hundreds of people protesting.

Trump’s birthday parade - sad.

R59 And remember, there were anti-Trump protests around the globe yesterday, too.

The world hates this piece of shit.

So there were terminated park service workers all around the country monitoring hundreds of rallies? Hmm🤔

You silly cows… quit arguing. The good news is that the number of protesters far outweighed the number of people at Dump’s sad birthday party. Newsmax and FauxNews can spin that any way they want but it doesn’t change the facts.

[quote] but it doesn’t change the facts.

Unfortunately, 'facts' haven't mattered for many years.

It's both R56. "No kings" reminds everyone that the country was founded on opposition to the kind of government that MAGA wants.

OP says 75,000 in Chicago. R59 says 200,000. Chicago police says 15,000 according to NBC Chicago.

What a fun game!

R65 yes. What no Kinds is not is a compare and constrast to 21st constitutional monarchies. which some asshats tried on, upthread.

I love this sign.

Not hard to see that total when seeing images like this all over.

How many of the people who were in the streets yesterday didn't bother to show up at the polls last November, when showing up actually meant something?

Indeed

Lol at r36, who reads something on Wikipedia and thinks he understands the complexities of past societies and their significant differences with today.

With such superficial political "analysis", no wonder the Democrats are losing and will continue to lose.

R34, I'm a non-voter because I didn't believe that any of the parties in the last general election in the UK deserved my vote.

Sure, just carry on ignoring the undecideds, the independents, the pissed off with politics people and enjoy seeing the Democrats lose elections.

Democrats lost the presidency by 1.5% and the Senate by a few seats; they gained seats in the House and have been overperforming in elections ever since, sometimes by wide margins. Whatever the connection you think you're making between Novermber's turnout and this year's protests, methinks your analysis is the superficial one, o wise Brit-splainer.

MAGA want to establish a monarchy in the US, r65? They see Trump as a new Louis XIV? Strange, because they keep going on about how the US is a republic.

If Trump believes he's a king, why hasn't he recognised Don Jr as his heir to the throne of the US?

[quote] I'm a non-voter because I didn't believe that any of the parties in the last general election in the UK deserved my vote.

Fuck, you are an idiot.

Voting is not about finding someone who is 100% in line with your beliefs.

You must be young, or just an idiot.

I’m glad to see that turnout at the protests was huge. But disappointed at how news of the protests seems so muffled. In The NY Times, a report on the protests is buried under twelve other stories on its home page. Why?

It's too bad School House Rock @ R51 is too complicated for Dump too understand.

If you are a non-voter, you are irrelevant.

R79 I noticed that too, and was bothered by it.

The same people bitching about the protest are also the same people bitching about “nobody is doing anything”.

We did something. We are doing something. People showed up to say “enough!” And plenty of people are showing up to vote when there are local elections.

You’re assuming that everyone showing up to protest didn’t vote. Not true.

You think protest ma don’t “do anything”, but you’re wrong. Maggots see they’re NOT the majority and their bloated orange traitor gets his day ruined by protests. Protests puss off the right people.

Protests let those of us in red state hell know we aren’t alone. The person who went with me yesterday was scared to go, but wanted to stand up on the right side of history. She had never been to a protest before.

As we were marching, some lady from her neighborhood recognized her and they started talking. My friend was so excited to learn that her neighborhood has an Indivisible group and she can join.

She thought she was alone in her red area. When she realized she wasn’t, she became more hopeful and realized she could get more involved in getting decent people elected.

Don’t tell me protests and marches don’t matter. It mattered to her.

[quote]3.5%...? can democrats not comprehend what it takes to win a fucking election?

Can you understand what it takes to get 5 million (or whatever) Americans out on the streets for demonstrations? Has that happened in living memory? Have conservatives ever been able to muster a crowd on the streets that size for any reason?

Why does this "centre-left British lesbian" sound just like an American "Third Way" consultant?

On a precious summer Saturday in the rain. That's commitment

Centre-left British lesbian needs a kick in the cunt.

Why is this thread so aggressive in tone? Considering what little is being disputed I don't understand it. You all seem to appreciate that there were rallies and they had a pretty good turnout. So why the aggressions against your own peers? Me thinks somebody tries to stir up shit where there isn't any just to divide a cohesive group. And you let it happen.

There were credible threats of violence too. From cops, from politicians, from everyday garbage on social media posts. Yet these badasses just lined the streets with nothing but a low curb to protect them as those same assholes wizzed by them in assault vehicle sized pickup trucks. There's more precedent and laws protecting the truck drivers than the protesters. Ballsy fucking move and I loved seeing it

R88, are you asking why the prompt slap-downs against demoralizers who dismiss the turnout and belittle the value of demonstrations rather than tacking to the right to appeal to "independents"?

R33 I never called you an idiot. I also never said you were wrong.

However, I did call you MAGA (aka conservative) and said I was super stoked for you.

And I wasn't far off with you. Well, I was a little off: You're a single issue (non) voter and you're single issue is trans. And because of trans, you now tend to defend the right over the left. Even though your core values are probably more aligned with the left. Which is cool. You do you, as the kids say.

Also, I have no interest in trying to convince you (or anyone) on how to vote. I just like to read the between the lines and understand with whom I'm speaking.

Oh, the trans stuff can irritate me too, but not enough to ever, in a million years, vote right or defend the right. But that's me.

Finally, accusing me of things I didn't say or do comes across as defensive and thin skinned. Perhaps find a way to be more comfortable with your own political leanings. That way we can have a more cogent, fluid conversation about the world we live in together.

R91 your generosity of spirit is laudable but wasted in this case.

Personally I get a little annoyed at people making bizarrely false statements like "Even in the days when the US was part of the British kingdom or whatever the kings were not involved in running it." (R17). The point of the American revolution, and the guiding principle behind the US Constitution, was to cast off the dictatorial authority of the British king and ensure that no king could ever be established in the US, which is why Americans are a little sensitive about seeing Trump try to act like one.

🙌. Op where did you get your stats?

R5 Thanks.

Seriously tearing up as I type this

For those complaining about NYT story placement

Be proud r96!

R97 NYT “both sides” it for the loss.

Digitally, where the vast majority of readers see the NYT, it’s an even bigger fail.

… doesn’t even make the second digital “fold”.

Hey dipshit R15, it was one million in Boston alone. Stop relying on the government-controlled propaganda media for your info. And it ultimately doesn't matter that the media, MAGA, and GOP will flood everywhere with downgraded info in attempt to make the massive, across the US protests look weak. Everyone who was there and following individuals actually participating knows the truth and are laughing at the RWNJs and legacy media. The media and GOP lost control of the narrative and no amount of scrambling and attempts to spin will work except on those already captured by RWNJ ideology. This was doubly emphasized by that deliciously humiliating parade for Trump where even the military forced to march in it were displaying blatant "malicious compliance."

Malicious compliance is my new favorite concept.

Are you sure about Boston and million though R102? Boston only has like half of a million people. A million would be link 17 million in New York.

Like, not link

Looks like we've got a real "gender truther" here at R32. How about you stay in the slow lane where you belong, "center left lesbian," the rest of us are traveling more quickly forward.

R103 mine too! From friend who attended in Boston, apparently hordes of people flooded into Boston from many surrounding cities and towns because they wanted to be part of a major city protest and the rail system on the East Coast makes that kind of travel so easy. There sre probably reports in independent media.

They're saying the Boston numbers were about 1 million for BOTH the Pride celebration and the protest. That's still a huge amount - even if it was two different events.

But yeah - Pride was also yesterday, so you have to figure that in. (That's fine - I'd have to think 90% of Pride attendees agree with the No Kings - but it's not the only reason they came out).

From Ocean Beach in San Francisco

Oh please, we had about 9,000 turnout here in Reno. This was a massive protest. Of course, I heard an MSNBC anchor this morning say several times "tens of thousands nationwide". Total BS-the media wants to downplay this because they like to keep Dump around for clicks and ratings.

Final estimate is 12.1 million!

Boston city proper is under 700 thousand but Greater Boston is over 4 million. And the combined statistical area is over 8 million

R111 - yeah, to say Boston is only the pop within the city is bonkers. The whole New England area is well connected - and Boston metro includes Rhode Island and parts of NH.

Wow about Boston!!!

I just got off the phone with my Dad and the total from my Trumpian Massachusetts hometown was 500 (by hand count) out of a population of 7,000 people.

I'm still kvelling. I tear up whenever I think of it. Of course the smug assholes in r/Europe are still big whoop'ing it.

Local Boston station says > 1 million for both - still a huge amount and not inconsequential at all.

Y'know what? I'm all for PRIDE celebrations to be integrated with NO KINGS protests this entire summer.

This is our biggest threat - and it's more than just our community.

I'd like to see that and turn it back into political protest instead of whatever the fuck Pride has become the last 15 years. The alphabet soup probably won't like it was much as it takes attention from them - but I don't care.

Love this one.

In 1817, given the choice of subjects to paint for the Rotunda in the U.S. Capitol, being rebuilt after the British had burned it during the War of 1812, fine artist John Trumbull picked the moment of Washington’s resignation from the army. As he discussed the project with President James Madison, Trumbull told the president: “I have thought that one of the highest moral lessons ever given to the world, was that presented by the conduct of the commander-in-chief, in resigning his power and commission as he did, when the army, perhaps, would have been unanimously with him, and few of the people disposed to resist his retaining the power which he had used with such happy success, and such irreproachable moderation.”

Madison agreed, and the painting of a man voluntarily walking away from the leadership of a powerful army rather than becoming a dictator hangs today in the Capitol Rotunda.

It is the story of this Army, 250 years old tomorrow, that President Donald J. Trump says he is honoring with a military parade in Washington, D.C., although it also happens to be his 79th birthday.

But the celebration of ordinary people who fought against tyranny will be happening not just in the nation’s capital but all across the country, as Americans participating in at least 2,000 planned No Kings protests recall the principles American patriots championed 250 years ago.

Brilliant r118!

R117: Also love this one from Studio City

It was a copy/paste but here’s the source. I love her newsletters.

[quote]Kings have in fact always sought a balance between the various institutions of power

Well, some more than others.

Some of the celebrities who marched, including Glenn Close

Glenn, you've never looked more feminine that in the thumbnail at r123!

Morgan Fairchild in Studio City:

Actual data collected from 40% of rallies—2.6 million, leading to overall estimate of 4-6 million, consistent with organizers’ claim of 5 million.

R125 Jillian Michaels is attacking Morgan for being masked. Does Morgan have health issues?

Jillian Michaels needs to sit on a cactus.

Is our Sue Sarandon a Democrat again?

Again?

Jillian Michaels = MAGA lezbo desperate for relevance.

DL fave Steve Kornacki ( looking might slim - must be getting a lot of sex) goes over Trump's approval ratings.

R127 She's had some health issues in the past. She's fine now, but she's explained on social media that she doesn't want to take any chances, so she always masks up in public.

I'd tell Jillian Michaels to choke on a dick, but since she doesn't like men, she can choke on an overgrown clit.

Just got off the phone with family who live in Utah. They had a great time until they had to start running for their lives and are undeterred from attending future events.

R134 Indeed. In Nebraska thousands marched in the middle of a thunderstorm. In Minnesota they marched despite the assassination and being warned to shelter in place while the killer was still at large. I am just amazed at the grit and fortitude Americans are displaying in these protests.

I really think this is just the beginning too. In April there were roughly 5 million protestors. In February, a little over a million. I fully expect the movement to reach 20 million by the end of the summer, and I can't wait to see it.

Yesterday I made it a point to personally thank 3-4 CPD officers as we marched. I've been firmly ACAB since I was a kid, but I've been really impressed by how they've gone out of their way to keep protestors feel safe and supported these last few months.

The first cop I approached was clearly overwhelmed and stressed by the enormous crowds which vastly outnumbered them. As I was walking up to him you could tell he was sure I was going to hurl some insult or another at him by the look on his face and the way he stiffened, but when I said "I just want to thank you for doing such good work at keeping things safe and orderly, so...thank you", his posture immediately softened and he briefly smiled and said how much that meant to him. Another cop even said "I do support you" (meaning the protestors). It really warmed my cold little heart.

I would definitely urge everyone to take a moment to thank the coppers who are doing their part not to incite and keep things peaceful. Just having one protestor that they expect to hate them thank them instead could create a kind of butterfly effect in terms of the way they police these events.

Masturbation weekend is over. Back to work - if you have jobs.

Somebody's feelings got hurt...

R138 - so basically, almost all cities if he's picking on those democractic-run cities.

^^^

“We must expand efforts to detain and deport Illegal Aliens in America’s largest Cities, such as Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York, where Millions upon Millions of Illegal Aliens reside. These, and other such Cities, are the core of the Democrat Power Center, where they use Illegal Aliens to expand their Voter Base, cheat in Elections, and grow the Welfare State, robbing good paying Jobs and Benefits from Hardworking American Citizens. These Radical Left Democrats are sick of mind, hate our Country, and actually want to destroy our Inner Cities — And they are doing a good job of it! There is something wrong with them.”

R125, more celebrity marchers:

R140 You just knew this was coming.

The convicted felon gets the worst public humiliation of his life, so now he's gonna retaliate.

Dump certainly doesn’t wrote those posts, R40, though he approves them. Is it Cheung, Miller? Don Jr?

I thought that just the other day T-Rump cheerfully ordered ICE to back off from the raids at workplaces? Now he's accelerating the raids in "America’s largest Cities"?

R144 - because of the protests. He’s a tiny-dicked dicktator who has no soul and no honor. People didn’t come to his birthday party, so this is his version of taking his ball and going home.

Sorry, I still can't get over the assumptions in this post:

[quote]3.5%...? can democrats not comprehend what it takes to win a fucking election?

That at least 50% of the voters need to march or the protest fails; that Saturday's rallies were the work of the Democratic leadership; that American DLers would be impressed by this analysis. Every so often we get a tone-deaf Brit or European on here, clueless about US events but ready to fit them, Procrustes-style, into their own local grid. Either that or the poster is of the tired "Dems need to reach out to the middle" type of American commentator.

It was good to see the news clip about the Arkansas protest and how many of the protesters were in the baby boomer age group that usually gets associated with Trump voters.

The MAGA trolls are so laughable, especially when they post all the tells and takes a MAGA would while insisting they aren't MAGA.

Sure, Jan.

Baby Boomers in Red States may decide the Senate next year.

The key to change is the Senate. Mitch McConnell knew that.

There were so many great signs on Saturday but there was one I must admit I didn’t quite get:

“Trump Is Gay (Derogatory)”

Anyone know what this means?

[quote]3.5%...? can democrats not comprehend what it takes to win a fucking election?

[quote]The convicted felon gets the worst public humiliation of his life, so now he's gonna retaliate.

It's not like the 3.5% won't be increased after the deep press coverage, and now retaliation. Brutal clever new anti-Trump placards are being created as I type. No Kings and TACO brilliantly justifiably got to the narcissist-in-chief, and it's only the beginning.

The 3.5 percent rule and it's common usage in regards to social change.

Jan-Werner Mueller has a good essay on the 3.5% thing today.

Make it HAPPEN

R151 I never thought I'd say this but I have more faith that red state Boomers will vote more logically than Gen Xers. Now that is a generation that is pure Trump.

Gen X voted for Trump 54% to 44%. That's a little over half, not "pure Trump." Happy to say I was in the 44%.

me too, also all of my friends

Call me cynical but we have an almost-dictator in office. What are these protests supposed to do again?

R160 Restore the people's power.

These protests were massive and can change the course of our politics, especially if Congress members want to be reelected.

Exactly, embolden Congress to do its job so the wannabe dictator doesn’t become an actual dictator.

We're already starting to see pushback. It looks like Trump's "big, beautiful bill" is about to die in the Senate, and a lot of Republican Congress members are pissed as hell about Trump sending war planes to Iran.

R160 Personally, they restored by faith in the American people. And more importantly, they humiliated the hell out of Trump and hopefully brought him one day closer to a massive heart attack or stroke.

“And for What, For What. No matter what you do it will never amount to anything but a single drop in a limitless ocean. What is an ocean but a multitude of drops.

It may be the largest one day protest in US history, according to current estimates, but it still was nowhere near 3.5% of the US population:

[quote]Working out exactly where the protest ranks compared with similar recent events has been a project of G Elliott Morris, a data journalist who runs the Substack Strength in Numbers, calculated turnout between 4 million and 6 million, which would be 1.2-1.8% of the US population. This could exceed the previous record in recent history, when between 3.3 million and 5.6 million people showed up at the 2017 Women’s March to rally against Trump’s misogynistic rhetoric.

It may have been. It turns out it was not. Because these are all made-up numbers, comparing apples to oranges. And because it is meaningless.

I’d say you are mocking the Trump of January 21, 2017…except I think you actually believe in this numbers shit. Oy!

R164, to make up for the humiliation of the protests, Trump will bomb Iran merely in order to regain his " alpha" status in his mind an in the minds of all of the " USA,USA" assholes with guns.

No r166, it’s 3.5% of active voters. The magic number for us is 11 million, and the national parks revised the count to 13.2 million, and over 2200 individual protests across the country. So there is the energy there, but now we must quickly build on that momentum. I see people riled about: the VA, Medicaid, all healthcare (thanks Luigi), the ICE raids, selling off millions of public land acres, fed workers being fired, marines called into cities that don’t want them, and much much more. Maybe the movement will have sub-groups so people fight on what they care about most, but then we all strike together. I say a national sick day (or week!). We’ve got to really hit them where it hurts — the wallet. Do NOT get your news from mainstream media, go to indie journalists, with culturally different backgrounds. I listen to a lot of lawyers. But also just indie journalists. We’ve got the right amount engaged, but what’s next?

Did you pay your taxes? 🤔

Trump's Big Beautiful Pile of Steaming Shit is in trouble in Congress as more and more people are finding out how malevolent and harmful it is.

His Big Beautiful Parade of Public Masturbation was...flaccid.

His fake take over of the War Zone known as Los Angeles is fizzling out. People are getting a split screen of soldiers in camo standing around in the SoCal sunshine and Trump's Blackhawks rounding up one or two farmworkers. Has Fox run out of showing the two cars on fire?

No Kings has announced the 4th of July as the next No Kings date..

For the first time in years, Trump is losing the PR war.

Is that the reason he is lashing out at Fox, or is it just performative theater?

“ National parks” didn’t count anything or anyone —more made up bull. Get a reality check.

And don’t listen to lawyers.

r172, did you get paid to write that because it wasn't AI?

What an odd reply.