Billie Eilish isn't Queer any more! Seen making out with Nat Wolff

But....

[quote] Billie Eilish on Coming Out: ‘I Didn’t Realize People Didn’t Know’

[italic]On Saturday, Billie Eilish confirmed that she recently came out in her Variety Power of Women cover story, in which she first revealed her attraction to women. The Grammy-winning superstar walked the red carpet at Variety‘s Hitmakers event, our invite-only celebration of the biggest songs of the year, where she revealed that she didn’t intend to make a grand gesture of “coming out.”

“No I didn’t,” Eilish said. “But I kind of thought, ‘Wasn’t it obvious’? I didn’t realize people didn’t know. I just don’t really believe in it. I’m just like, ‘Why can’t we just exist’? I’ve been doing this for a long time, and I just didn’t talk about it. Whoops.”

Eilish continued, “But I saw the article, and I was like, ‘Oh I guess I came out today.’ OK cool. It’s exciting to me because I guess people didn’t know, but it’s cool that they know.” She added: “I am for the girls.”[/italic]

Queer is the corollary to "bi" from the early 2000s.

You announced you were bi before coming out as gay.

Today, you announce you're "queer" to pander, but end up in a straight relationship.

Billie Eilish and Jojo Siwa are total Queer Baiters.

Billie Eilish

For a moment, I thought that headline was "Billie Eichner isn't queer anymore."

[Quote] I’m just like, ‘Why can’t we just exist’?

She’s not wrong.

We really go after this queer or nonbinary thing, but we’ve all known since forever that women are more fluid than men, by and large. Many “straight” women are at least bi-curious or like to fool around with other girls too.

Isn’t that ok?

Isn’t this change-up in attitude good for gay men as well?

“ We really go after this queer or nonbinary thing, but we’ve all known since forever that women are more fluid than men”

Wrong. The erection is the sine qua non here.

Whatever that means

Baby you have autism breath here's a lozenge

Nat Wolff is cute.

But who is he?

Nat is cute, but not as cute as Chris Hughes!

She’s bisexual. Where’s the story?

[quote] Where’s the story?

The story is that bi girls always go back to dick.

Always.

What if that’s true?

And?

She did has a dumb name.

Why do bisexuals--especially bisexual women--make Dataloungers so angry?

Good for her. He's cute.

She’s bi.

Her boobs are huge.

Had to look him up on Wiki. As others have said up thread he's very cute. Good luck to them.

“Non American Elder gay.”

When you’re old, you’re gross and no one cares if you are - or are not - from America

Nat’s brother Alex (Pig, Hereditary, Oppenheimer, etc.) is both hotter and the better actor.

Corrected link

She does have giant dirty pillows.

It's the source of her soft and appealing musical genius

Dick wins again

Being queer is nothing more than a fad. If it’s tied to anything at all it’s attention seeking behavior.

LGB is one thing. Queer is a whole different thing.

She’s bi, R26.

I refuse to believe a single word of this till we have a conclusive statement from Billie’s PR.

That girl is brutally plain.

She’s been doing her brother for a long time.

R2 Well posted. This generation wakes up in the morning with life-long declarations that last until the next cock or vag comes their way.

Queer is the new "Bi"

Also, WHO wouldn't want to make out with Nat Wolff

Billie Eilish and her equally bizarre brother are good example of what happens when people wait too long to have children. Their parents were well into their forties. In my experience that always results in kids who are just really "off."

R6 Women are NOT more fluid than men. It is simply more acceptable to be fluid.

Cause at the end of the day, queers like Jojo and Billie would never date a fluid or bisexual man.

Which is why the men usually stay in the closet and it’s not some cute thing to them they can tell everyone about.

R3 Jojo Siwa is obviously gay. You have to be blind or have no gaydar not to see it. She's going through some internalized homophobia. Or that relationship is pr. Or she is too stupid to realize she is gay.

Jojo Siwa is a talentless piece of shit who is a good example of how dumbed down and trashbag current celebrity culture is.

R13 Cassandra Peterson, bi, with her female partner for 23 years. Says she is still mostly attracted to men. Kate Pierson, bi, married to her wife for 22 years. Cynthia Nixon, bi, with her wife for 21 years. Lorenza Izzo, bi, married to a woman. Saffron Burrows, bi, was with her ex wife for 14 years, with a woman before her and with a woman now.

That's just from the top of my head. There's a ton of bi women that end up with women. You just assume that they are gay .

It's more socially acceptable for women to be sexually fluid. With men it's still a radical departure.

These children just want to be "relevant," which dilutes our community of verification.

She didn't say she was 100% gay, so what is your problem?

"Queer" can include bisexuals

Sometimes gatekeepers can be tiresome. If she were dating a woman you'd say she was really a lesbian in denial

R34, no, studies of physical attraction show otherwise. Even straight-identified women showed more arousal looking at naked women than men. Straight-identified guys don't get aroused looking at men

R34 R7 Datalounge is the only place on the internet that tries to claim that men are more sexually fluid than women. Well, at least some of the posters on this site. There are millions women that identified as straight and never thought about being anything but untill one day they fell in love with a woman. Some started calling themselves gay and only dated women after it, some bi, some went back to being "straight". There are also millions of women that identified as gay, were repulsed by men, were only attracted to women only to one day fall for a man.

How many men that identified as gay and then started dating women after years of only dating men do you know? Exactly. How many men that were repulsed by anything gay and were only attracted to women only to come out as bi or gay later in life do you know? Exactly.

So, stfu with men are more/equally sexually fluid as women bullshit. Nobody's buying it

R43 AGREED. Women are wayyy more fluid than men. As cliche as it sounds, in many cases, they need that connection even more than sex and more likely to get from other women.

" I refuse to believe a single word of this till we have a conclusive statement from Billie’s PR. —Gullible of Bumfucke Nowhere"

In this case, Bumfucke Nowhere seems to be NYC.

Hotel balconies can be places to stage things but Billy could be with this guy. It looks pretty real.

He likes fake lesbians, I guess.

This interview made me really dislike him. The two of them are so shitty to the interviewer.

R43 You’re definitely NOT a man because you’re only talking about what women do in the open vs what men do in the open. Because women are more open and allowed and tolerated for their fluidity doesn’t mean men are not, if not more fluid.

You’re definitely never been on Grindr.

If men had the acceptance women had with their sexuality, there would be more men.

Even the statistical rates of Grindr vs Lesbian apps doesn’t even COMPARE.

You can go by what you see — we can look at numbers. Cause I’ll tell you this, there’s more than just gay men on Grindr.

There isn’t even a female same-sex dating app comparable to Grindr. Grindr has 13 million monthly users, the closest female app is HER at 2 million.

How does that show women are more sexually fluid?

And you believe 100% of the 13 million monthly users on Grindr are gay men?

Like you see how crazy you sound?

Men are more promiscuous, more horny, more active on apps, and above all rejects labels of sexual orientation the most.

Women will identity as bisexual if they even think about kissing a woman. Men will get their cock sucked on Grindr and still identify as straight.

If your argument is women admit more fluidity - ok But they’re not more fluid

Very true about men who are attracted to other men not identifying as gay or bi. We've all known some.

We're never going to know the true percentage of men who have same-sex attraction, but I've always believed the number would be quite surprising.

R50 Correct.

Men dominate every metric related to sexual behavior - Sexual thoughts, casual sex, porn consumption, masturbation, multiple partners, hookup apps, sexual compulsivity, men dominate at the top of all of these, EXCEPT sexual identity and fluidity is the ONLY one women win, which clearly means it’s underreported in men.

It’s common knowledge the millions of blank profiles on Grindr are typically bisexual, curious, experimenting, or married men who are publicly heterosexual. These men aren’t identifying as bisexual or gay in surveys, apps, or public life but they are engaging in same-sex activity.

And I’ll add to R43 I do know a few women who became lesbians later in life. I also know their age and weight.

She likes the pole and the hole.

Great I had to listen to that nasty song about her eating cooch and it was all for nothing.

I project that most of the women in pop cuulture claiming to be bi will be married to a man and with a baby in 10 years time.

R38 you can have clear preferences but still be bi though. Freddy Mercury I'm sure was bi, but definitely preferred men. David Bowie was the opposite, bi, but preferred women. So for the bi women you named that have mostly or exclusively dated women, I'd say bi eith a clear preference for women is the case.

R48 You are beyond delusional. You are going off of Grindr? Seriously?? As you pointed out in your next post, it has 13 million monthly users, which is next to nothing compared to the world's population. And you are going off if that? Ok, live in your delusions if you want. Most of those people on there are either openly gay or openly bi.

There are even studies that show that women that identity as straight get turned on by lesbian porn, while straight men don't by gay porn. But sure, go with Grindr proof because of the few closeted "straight" men.

“ EXCEPT sexual identity and fluidity is the ONLY one women win, which clearly means it’s underreported in men.”

Wrong. For nearly all men, the hard on is the tell. Fluidity will get you into the bedroom, but it won’t get you erect.

R57 Majority of women don’t even WATCH porn. Again, men dominate porn consumption and you believe a population of straight identifying men aren’t watching gay porn? Who’s watching trans porn? It’s been climbing up the PornHub most searched the last few years. You’re gonna tell me women, who make up 28% of the platform?

So Grindr stats are irrelevant but sure, women who watch porn is your basis when most women don’t even watch it.

R58 This doesn’t make any sense.

And R57, NO the statistics don’t even show most people are open or bisexual at all.

You’re pulling your information out of your ass. It’s all assumptions based on mainstream society.

It’s not rooted in anything. You can’t talk about women watching lesbian porn because the statistics of gay porn rankings aren’t reflective of the population, nor is Grindr.

Grindr regularly ranks in the Top 10–25 social/dating apps globally, and in many countries it’s right alongside Tinder, Bumble, and Hinge. For an app supposedly limited to just 5–6% of the male population, that’s wildly disproportionate.

As is gay porn consumption.

As R50 pointed out, most gay men on Grindr have encountered curious, bisexual, closeted, and married men.

The fact that you think it’s rare shows you have no idea what the hell you're talking about and only understand the female side (cause you’re a female) and believe women are sexually fluid creatures when the ONLY thing they statistically dominate is the one thing that most men are afraid of talking about.

There is absolutely no basis historically or statistically that proves men are more black and white sexually than women outside of the fact women are more open to admitting sexual fluidity.

It’s silly.

r63 that poster is clearly a woman. Gay men know the score when it comes to closeted/bi-curious men. There are a lot of them.

Haven't they done studies where they measure arousal? What do they conclude from straight identifying men who look at naked photos of men?

That's the real proof

Grindr is 85% trannies.

R59 No dummy. Porn isn't my basis. There was a research where they were showing gay and lesbian porn to people that identity as straight. Most of the women got turned on by lesbian porn. Most straight men didn't get turned on by gay porn.

R66 Yes, there was a study and it showed that straight men aren't turned on by male bodies while "straight" women are by female bodies.

R61 I never said that most people are bisexual. You are putting words in my mouth. I said that women are WAY MORE sexually fluid than men. Which is a fact. Out of my ass? You have the internet, it's not that hard to Google those studies.

Makes sense R68 to me. Men are much more rigid and unchanging in what they do and do not find sexually attractive.

Gay men don't find women attractive in certain circumstances, the same goes for straight men and men.

The idea that straight men are secretly turned on by men under certain conditions is just wishful thinking.

[quote] Billie Eilish and Nat Wolff Look All Loved Up While on a Boat in Venice

The “Lunch” singer’s relationship history includes everyone from 2 Little Monsters actor Matthew Tyler Vorce, to The Neighbourhood singer Jesse Rutherford, to internet star Quenlin Blackwell, and now, she seems to be dating actor and musician Nat Wolff.

Wolff, like Eilish, grew up in the entertainment industry. His mother is actress, writer, director, and producer Polly Draper, and his father is the jazz pianist Michael Wolff. Inspired by their parents, Wolff and his brother, Alex, began acting and singing when they were just kids. They starred in Nickelodeon’s The Naked Brothers Band (produced by his mom and with music supervised by his dad) and even went on tour to promote it.

Wolff’s other acting credits include The Fault in Our Stars (2014), Paper Towns (2015), Stella’s Last Weekend (2018), and Mainstream (2020). Now, he and his brother are focused on their music. As pop-rock duo Nat & Alex Wolff, they have released two studio albums and even joined Eilish on her Hit Me Hard and Soft Tour last year.

Ahead, everything we know Wolff and Eilish’s relationship.

June 8, 2025: They are spotted kissing.

Despite sources previously denying rumors that Eilish and Wolff are dating, the musicians are seen kissing on a balcony in Venice, Italy, and enjoying some champagne.

June 7, 2025: they take a ride in a Venice water taxi.

The pair enjoys a boat ride in Venice, Italy, while in casual outfits. The two are seen cuddling and laughing, and at one point, Wolff leans over to give Eilish a kiss on the cheek.

March 25, 2025: They’re seen out in NYC.

The pair seem to have a date night in Manhattan—first going to see a play at Lucille Lortel Theater, and then going bar-hopping in the East Village. See the photos here.

September 2024: Nat joins Billie’s tour.

Wolff and brother Alex join Eilish’s Hit Me Hard and Soft tour as the opening act, and soon, rumors that Wolff is involved with Eilish emerge.

In an interview published on October 2024, Wolff says of Eilish: “She’s one of those people where almost everything she does, she does better than everyone else. She’s like, ‘Come see me ride my horse,’ and the teacher says, ‘You know, if she put all her energy into it, she could go to the Olympics.’ You just have to kind of submit to the fact that she’s going to be better than everyone else at everything.”

June 6, 2024: He appears in her music video.

Wolff makes an appearance in Eilish’s “CHIHIRO” music video—and they look great running together in coordinating baggy fits.

December 3, 2023: They meet.

Wolff and Eilish meet at the 2023 Academy Museum Gala in Los Angeles. Wolff reveals this fact in an interview months later, when he says that they bonded over the fact that they both have Tourette’s syndrome.

R69 Who’s talking about straight men?

R68’s study doesn’t mean shit.

My point is that bisexual men or same sex experiences are underreported because men are less likely to admit it or adopt it as an identity and given that men are MORE sexually active, MORE promiscuous, MORE hornier than women, MAJORITY of porn consumers - they are most likely MORE bisexual and more fluid than women.

It’s just common sense.

Queer is very 2020. People are moving on.

R71 "study doesn’t mean shit"...."It’s just common sense"...

Yeah, alrighty then

[quote]he says that they bonded over the fact that they both have Tourette’s syndrome.

She has Tourette’s now too??

That Jojo whatever her name is sure seems like a total dyke from what I’ve seen. Not bi but total dyke.

So with this and JoJo Siwa, I never want to hear again how there is no white privilege when it comes to hiding in the United States. As soon as the temperature of the room changes, some white people, who once embraced any cultural periphery go running back to the shelter provided by the whiteness. I remember I had a friend in college who was a lesbian. She promoted lesbian parties all around NYC for years. As soon as things got tough in her 30s, she married some finance guy and started popping out babies. It's harder, if not impossible for other minorities to run and take cover when the tides turn. I guess in tough times, white women truly need their white men to shelter them.

[quote] There is absolutely no basis historically or statistically that proves men are more black and white sexually than women outside of the fact women are more open to admitting sexual fluidity.

So there’s no statistical evidence .. except for the statistical evidence? Is that right?

Someone is delulu.

R77 Statistics out of context are irrelevant.

For resemble, statistically lesbians are more violent in same sex relationships than gay men. They statistically have higher rates of domestic violence.

Now if I had your brain, I would take that as fact.

But with my brain and my logic, I’m able to understand that lesbians aren’t statistically more violent than gay men , it’s just gay men do not report domestic violence as much as women so the statistic is flawed.

And the fact that a lot of men who are bisexual or engage in same sex activity don’t even identify with the label shows the statistic is flawed.

He has no shoulders.

Pic is 6 years old but here’s Nat in wet underwear with ex Grace Van Patten.