Dateline Fairmont Crest: The Real, True Story of The Articulates

Link to the previous Beyond the Gates thread.

2 lezzies kissing??? NO thank you!

Neither Eva nor Leslie have been onscreen this week and show has consequently been somewhat dull.

I'm liking that they are finally giving us some more background on whatever it was that Martin went through two years ago.

Seems to be some kind of carjacking incident.

Id join Smitty in a "jacking" incident

Is Fairmont Crest the name of the town they live in or is it the name of their subdivision?

I had assumed they lived in Potomac, Maryland and Fairmont Crest was the name of their subdivision in Potomac, but now I'm not so sure.

Fairmont Crest is the name of the Country Club the Duprees belong to.

Presumably Fairmont Crest is also the name of the gated community that the Duprees live in, but I can't say for certain.

Sounds like toothpaste

Why do the Duprees pay dues at the Country Club if their grandfather founded it? You'd think they'd be "grandfathered" in...

I get the feeling they live in the Potomac, Maryland area. Definitely some place on the northern part of DC.

Characters have mentioned going to the Adams Morgan nieghborhood a couple of time.

[quote]Why do the Duprees pay dues at the Country Club if their grandfather founded it?

How do we know they pay dues? Maybe they are grandfathered in.

All we know is that they are members and frequently go to the country club.

[quote]Sounds like toothpaste

Perhaps the toothpaste copied the name of our ritzy country club.

For some reason, I thought Martin's secret was something that happened when he was a child, but I guess it was more recent. I wonder if Vernon and Anita had him hypnotized to forget it. When the waiter guy kept saying "blow by blow" it made me wonder if it was some kind of sex hookup gone wrong.

R11. You must not be a watcher, Sweetie. In an earlier episode, Nicole asks why they have to pay such high dues to the country club only to associate with people like Bill and Hayley. So, your lack of knowledge is all YOU know, not all WE know.

On a superficial note, Smitty's arms looked good in that polo. They need to get him shirtless.

Superficial: This crap show loses a million viewers from its lead in, The Bold and the Beautiful. I’m not surprised. I’ve tried to get into this show, but I can’t. It’s lifeless.

I don't find B B any better.

Way too much time was spent on dull Ashley and Derek, and the boring gambling den.

Is it bad that I truly cannot tell the difference between Smitty’s husband and the cop? Is the same actor playing both roles?

[quote]Way too much time was spent on dull Ashley and Derek, and the boring gambling den.

Ashley and Derek are the token white couple. Boring and not fully developed. They are the white counterpart of Bryan and Claudia from GH in the 1980s and numerous other black characters that were largely one dimensional.

Similarly, Cady McClain's Pamela is the best friend of Dani. Her main function is to be a talk-to for Dani. Just like for so many years, the black characters' function on a soap was to be the talk-to character for the white characters. So, this is the reverse of that since BTG is aimed at a black audience.

The gambling den is owned by a white man. And that white man is the show's primary villain. Again this is the reverse of how black characters were treated for so many years.

Some of the Beyond the Gates cast in the Locher Room.

And if Ashley's mom was not purposely made to look like white trailer park trash, Im the Queen of England.

[quote]And if Ashley's mom was not purposely made to look like white trailer park trash, Im the Queen of England.

That's what shows did to black characters for many decades. Dressed them and made them up to look like the worst black stereotypes

Turnabout is fair play.

Where is Vicky Rowell these days?

Vernon stepping out of his goody-goody box is an intriguing character turn, and I'm finding all these men involved in having a hand in the Martin coverup along with Smitty and Jacob on the case is entertaining.

I'm really enjoying Eva versus Miss Priss Kat.

Do we know how far in advance the show tapes?

When they fired Ted #1 after three months, someone here suggested he was already gone before the show even debuted on Feb. 24.

R27 It appears that they're about three months out, because on April 10th, the cast and crew were celebrating the production of Episode #100, and on that day Episode #32 was being broadcast. .. So that's a difference of 68 episodes, and usually there are about 21 episodes broadcast per month. (That 68 is a little higher due to a few pre-emptions that occurred.)

Thanks r27.

Three months out for a brand new show seems a bit risky. Not much opportunity to adjust in response to audience reactions. But I guess with lots of soap vets running the show, their instincts have been spot on because she seems to be operating well.

CBS has pulled Beyond The Gates off the air - well kind of. They unexpectedly are airing reruns next week. The clueless cunt Michele Val Jean had no knowledge of it. Things ain’t looking good fir Beyond The Gates.

[quote] Three months out for a brand new show seems a bit risky. Not much opportunity to adjust in response to audience reactions

With the number of EP's they have, one would think that SOMEONE among them would have figured out that one story in particular hasn't been working even before it aired. At least part of that story seems to be over now? I just hope Ashley and Derek were using birth control.

On another note, I loved Big Bad Bill telling the blackmailer how things were going to be.

Odd that BTG would air re-air the first five episodes next week.

But apparently TV viewing is usually up around the July 4th holiday time. Kids are home from school and people have time off for the holidays. So maybe this is a way for BTG to pull in first time viewers and get them hooked.

Wonder if they've color corrected those overly bright debut episodes for these repeat showings? We here on DL certainly complained about that back in February.

They have like 20 Executive Producers on this mess of a show. Maybe that’s the problem of why it’s incoherent. It’s a mess. And Michele Val Jean can’t take any criticism. You tweet anything bad to her and she goes off the rails. It’s fun to see. lol

Michele Val Jean is full of shit!!! While I do believe that the decision to air a week of repeats - at the last minute - is above her paygrade, Sheila Ducksworth, an EP of BTG is an Executive at CBS. Michele feigning ignorance is not a good look. Surely Michele called or texted Sheila to ask why they are airing unplanned repeats. Michele knows more than she is saying and it doesn’t look good on her to claim not knowing anything. It’s your show Michele! Sorry, but she comes as stupid and I’m not sorry that her show is bombing.

"treating fans"

That's a funny way for SOD to word it.

It's not like BLG is a soap that has something from 30 years ago that it's pulling out of a vault.

R35. It will be lucky to last 30 months....

^ Go stomp on your dead sour cigar somewhere else Paul.

R37 is Lil Hayman

R38 Lil’s hymen was never broken.