The Brown Replacement Theory

[quote]Whites are running scared that America will be majority minority in a decade. Trump is trying to stop it

Meanwhile, Biden was encouraging it. Why?

The ironic part is that outside of tax breaks for the wealthy, MAGA only knows how to make life harder and less pleasurable for people overall. So they won't be raising birthrates anytime soon. But they're also attacking education & trying to make people dumber, more dependent on churches. This will indeed raise birthrates over time, as the US devolves (back) into a Christo-fascist slave state where gender equality doesn't exist. Fun.

The Difficult Brown

One: duh, this is the narrative that's been shared for a while now. And in Russia, Hungary, and to a lesser degree Germany, France, Holland.

Two: it is promulgated to inflame low-information white voters and also extreme rightwing "theorists" in order to....

Three: win elections, gain authoritarian power, further rig economic systems to make wealth flow to the wealthy. The oligarchs don't really care about national demographics, they just know that the populace can be manipulated in order that they (the oligarchs) are able to access more wealth and stay in protected enclaves with no challenge.

Biden was not "encouraging" it. The US was founded on immigrants and has always thrived thanks to immigrants. They play a critical role in the economy and have contributed enormously to US research and innovation. Biden was just following that tradition. (But the number of migrants admitted to the country dropped sharply toward the end of Biden's term because he tightened the rules, as Republicans always forget to mention.)

Of course if you simply don't like brown people you might see it differently. The Great Replacement people are just bigots who think it matters what color you are. Stephen Miller thinks of brown people solely as "the help" who don't deserve any rights.

This is already a lost cause for the paranoid whites. Last gasp desperation is so loud and obvious.

R1, we've always been a nation of immigrants so why shouldn't he encourage it?

Immigrants help the economy. Why do you think the economy is shrinking under Trump?

The Stephen Millers of the world fail to grasp that, like their Aryan ancestors, the white supremacists with whom they travel don’t regard Jews as part of the team.

There's no way to stop it, yes there's no way to stop it...

[quote]He’s important white South Africans.

Accepting Afrikaners as refugees but deporting Australians and Danes. There was a Twitter thread about why Miller & Trump prefer certain whites over others, but I can't find it now.

[quote]Biden was not "encouraging" it.

[quote]The Stephen Millers of the world fail to grasp that, like their Aryan ancestors

Stephen Miller's ancestors would have been gassed at Auschwitz. Maybe they were; not bothering to look it up.

And if Stephen Miller had been in Europe in the 1930's and 1940's, he would have Anne Frank'd all of them.

Stephen Miller’s uncle eviscerated him for it in Trump’s term.

R1, because historically, we are changing demographically. It has happened before within white America. This time we are becoming browner. Evangelicals believe that brown/black people do not have souls.

Biden thought this was bullshit and we need immigrants working and becoming citizens and paying into Social Security. The Plantation/Klan/Heritage Foundation/Plan 2025 want Social Security to spend down into oblivion, kill all three Healthcare Systems and dismantle the Dept of Education.

They have very successfully used the Murdoch/Marketing/Propaganda Machine to have us all look away from Billionaires buying the Supreme Court and the entire Republican.

I have to repeat this in multiple threads, because the right-wing propaganda is SO strong, on here as elsewhere in the media. The US is obligated, BY LAW, to give asylum seekers a hearing. What do I mean, BY LAW? The US is a signatory to the Geneva Convention on Refugees. According to the US Constitution, a treaty signed by the US and ratified by Congress has the force of law, equal to any other laws on the books. What does the law require? The law requires that asylum seekers be admitted to the country while their claim is being adjudicated, and not deported back to the place they left, until and or unless their claim turns out to be false. In order for that to happen with a flood of asylum seekers, the US is supposed to beef up its JUDICIAL system along the border, along with investigators, and it needs to provide at least rudimentary housing and food to asylum seekers. That is the sticking point.

Biden was upholding the law, as he should have been. Trump has been in violation of the law all along.

"Rights and responsibilities of parties In the general principle of international law, treaties in force are binding upon the parties to it and must be performed in good faith. Countries that have ratified the Refugee Convention are obliged to protect refugees that are on their territory in accordance with its terms."

Among other obligations, signing parties are supposed to supply asylum seekers with judges and administrative assistance, and under no circumstances may they send refugee seekers back to the land from which they are fleeing, except if they can prove that national security is at stake.

All of this came about because after WWII, countries had to reckon with their abysmal treatment of Jewish refugees trying to flee Germany and eastern Europe and turned away at so many borders. That's what makes Stephen Miller's role in this so reprehensible.

[quote]In order for that to happen with a flood of asylum seekers, the US is supposed to beef up its JUDICIAL system along the border, along with investigators, and it needs to provide at least rudimentary housing and food to asylum seekers.

No way, even under the very best circumstances, can MILLIONS of asylum seekers be processed. And with millions more arriving. And proving HOUSING? LOL.

The BBC: "Since January 2021, when Joe Biden came to office, there have been more than 10 million encounters - about 8 million came over the southwest land border with Mexico."

^ providing housing

R7- This is about the masses of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS that have been pouring into the USA since the 1980's that BOTH the Republicans and the Democrats were in favor of.

He’s important white South Africans?

Good job.

CBS News May 1st 2025:

"The apprehensions reported in February, March and April are the lowest tallies recorded by the Border Patrol in its public monthly dataset, which stretches back to fiscal year 2000. The last time Border Patrol averaged fewer than 9,000 monthly apprehensions along the southern border over a year was in the late 1960s, according to historical agency figures."

"The historically low levels of illegal crossings under Mr. Trump also stand in sharp contrast to the unprecedented influx in migrant arrivals at the southern border under the Biden administration. During a record-breaking spike in illegal crossings in December 2023, Border Patrol averaged 8,000 apprehensions per day.."

Immigration, however you characterize it, was one of the main reasons why America recovered from the pandemic better than most countries. But more Americans would prefer clinging to a nonsensical, arbitrary, and punitive immigration patchwork - even if it makes everyone’s lives worse.

The US does have a low birth rate so immigration both legal and illegal is providing all the population growth. That part at least is correct. It’s almost impossible to get white citizens to have more kids though. Many countries have tried to encourage more children and it doesn’t work.

Oh shut up, OP. You're about as truthful as Rachel Madcow.

I think there ate legitimate cultural reasons for limiting immigration, but that’s about it. It’s hard to think of any practical reason not to welcome substantial immigration. Given our birth rates, we may be lamenting in decades to come our inability to attract sufficient immigrants.

[quote]Whites are running scared that America will be majority minority in a decade.

This statement by OP is 100% accurate and explains a lot of Trump's support. MAGA whites think white culture is being wiped out and they'll be Replaced.

I'm descended from illegal immigrants. My first "American" ancestors were colonists, arriving to north-eastern shores in 1660. Driving natives from their lands, mowing down forests, slaughtering the abundance of wildlife, plundering furs, and fighting in every war fought to build and support this nation. Four of my ancestors fought in the American Revolution, one died on a British prison ship. One branch moved south and were slave-owners.

The family continually moved westward, my branch eventually settling in San Francisco circa 1900. My Bay Area family, originally Northern European Christians, grew to include other immigrants, Jews, Asians, Hispanics, and Blacks. We're now pretty blended genetically, when the family gets together it's basically a group of loud, educated, happy, opinionated people where ethnicity isn't readily apparent and the skins glow in lovely shades from white to brown. My trans nibling is warmly supported.

I grew up with immigrants. My best friend's mom was a refugee from Franco's Spain, other friends were a variety of ethnicities. One Chinese friend, who always said "American" when asked what he was, descended from Gold Rush pioneers. He was very proud of his heritage and his mom was a great cook, blending Chinese flavors with American.

Fuck off to all racists. They do not know what they are missing when they close their hearts to diversity. Diversity is a beautiful thing. So many immigrants I know are strivers, innovators, and very ambitious. They get educations and live lives far more enriched than your average MAGA, whose ignorance and hate are ruining this country. Even the wealthiest, like rump and smuk, are devastatingly poor in mind and spirit.

At least our current immigrants, legal or not, are here to work and succeed, not kill off us "natives." Some may struggle as they adapt, but most just want security and a means to support their families. People always have moved about to improve their lot. My ancestors did and so do refugees and immigrants.

I understand the fear of replacement people have. I felt resentment when certain wealthy legal immigrants came to CA and started buying up houses and land, raising prices and making housing difficult to get. But many Americans have come to CA from all over the country, and continue to do so, for the opportunity and adventure of the state with a world renowned economy. I resented them, too, when I first joined the job force and noticed how many there were, Americans and foreigners alike, invading my state. I got over it and count among my friends a wonderful variety of interesting people from around the country and the world.

I also wish people would stop saying "we're the greatest country on earth." No, we are not, not with scum trump as president. Anyway, if you don't want people to come here for opportunity, stop sayin that already.

As a percentage of the total population, immigrants, even under the supposed flood that arrived during the Biden years, don't match the huge numbers (by percentage) that came to the US, mostly from southern and eastern Europe, from 1880-1920. During another wave of xenophobia, the 1920s saw a rash of laws eliminating most avenues of legal immigration. That was the period which saw the beginnings of the quota system, elements of which still exist. People say, "Why don't these people apply to enter legally?" The reason is the expense, the time, and the high likelihood of being rejected. I know a Russian-speaking guy from Kyrgyzstan, a naturalized citizen, who has been trying to get his sister here for TWENTY YEARS. There's sort of a lottery system, but it's very arbitrarily applied.

Look at the scare tactic of the post above. 8000 apprehensions a DAY. Well, what does that mean? It means that those people were apprehended and immediately sent back. I think many people, perhaps most here, don't distinguish between people who sneak across the border in the dead of night, walking across the desert, and people who show up at the border stops in border towns, identifying themselves as asylum seekers. They are NOT the same, and have different legal status. (But they are identical to Trumplicans). The ones who are apprehended and sent back have no rights under American law. Someone said, supply housing?, as though that were impossible. But properly processed people COULD have very temporary housing and then be filtered out to communities around the country, many of which could use the population. The entire Great Plains region of the US has been steadily losing population for decades, for instance. Many rural areas of otherwise well-populated states are also losing population.

Eliminate Welfare, SNAP, Section 8 , food pantries, etc.- and make abortion free. Problem solved.

Exactly which problem would that be, r29?

[quote]The Difficult Brown

I’ve experienced this before, especially after a long flight. A couple cups of coffee and a cigarette usually helps.

Abortion bans and attacks on any lifestyle that doesn’t lead to procreation(lgbtq community) is also an attempt to bolster the numbers of white babies. White women are the biggest beneficiaries of DEI - especially white educated women. So if we can get them out of the universities and offices, we can get them back into the home and making white babies.

The status quo in America is white majority rule. And it’s a fallacy to think that JUST white people are comfortable with this. There are members of minority groups that are completely fine excluding others as long as they are the exception to the rule. It’s the “only gay in the village” mentality.

[quote]the 1920s saw a rash of laws eliminating most avenues of legal immigration.

That is true. From the 1920s through the 1950s. A time of great economic expansion.

[quote]Look at the scare tactic of the post above. 8000 apprehensions a DAY.

That was under the Biden administration.

This is such an obvious "weekender troll" post.

[quote]Abortion bans and attacks on any lifestyle that doesn’t lead to procreation(lgbtq community) is also an attempt to bolster the numbers of white babies.

Black women have the highest abortion rate.

[quote]The US is obligated, BY LAW, to give asylum seekers a hearing.

Until, of course, when Trump changes their status and mumbo jumbo, ipso facto, they become ILLEGAL ENTRANTS.

[quote]Until, of course, when Trump changes their status and mumbo jumbo, ipso facto, they become ILLEGAL ENTRANTS.

Explain to us how the US is to give a "hearing" to the millions of migrants who have crossed during the last 4 years. How would that work? How much time do you think it would take? Where would you expect them all to go in the meantime?

R38 so your solution is what? ignore our laws? ignore international agreements? change immigration status on a whim, because of politics?

Again, both Obama and Biden deported/rejected more migrants than Trump did in his first time. Biden in his first 100 days deported more migrants than Trump has done in his first 100 days of this term. They did it LEGALLY. Much of ICE's behavior now is made-for-TV violence. It's a show for the MAGA faithful, to gin up their rage, to appear strong. It's manipulation only. (Illegal migration across the southern border in 2022-2023 was out of control, largely because of COVID, political and economic disruption in Central America, and Biden administration slow response.)

Right, left, progressive, conservative... those who believe in the US Republic need to come together and reject this BS.

R36 that might be proportionately. But sheer numbers wise, thousands more white children get sucked out of their moms monthly than any other race in America.

R40 You are wrong.

[quote]Biden in his first 100 days deported more migrants than Trump has done in his first 100 days of this term.

Not true.

Links please r40, r41, r42

R43 RE: abortion

Figures for 2022 - cdc.gov

"Among the 32 areas that reported race by ethnicity data for 2022, non-Hispanic White (White) women and non-Hispanic Black (Black) women accounted for the highest percentages of all abortions (31.9% and 39.5%, respectively)

(And proportionately their numbers are through the roof.)

^ (And proportionately black women's numbers are through the roof.)

[quote]Biden in his first 100 days deported more migrants than Trump has done in his first 100 days of this term.

"That claim is incorrect based on recent data regarding migrant deportations during the first 100 days of the Trump administration's current term (which began in 2025) and the Biden administration's first 100 days. "

"... available data indicates that the Trump administration in its first 100 days in office has deported significantly fewer migrants than the Biden administration did during its first 100 days. " - Google AI overview

Frankly, white people (especially white men) who vote Democratic are self-loathing at this point.

The party loathes whites and men and isn't afraid to show it.

Thank you for some of the facts. Editorializing as in " through the roof" is unnecessary.

[quote]Thank you for some of the facts. Editorializing as in " through the roof" is unnecessary.

Editorializing? The comment is true and worth pointing out.

Black women are only 7.8% of the U.S. population but account for nearly 40% of abortions.

THROUGH THE ROOF is editorializing.

R50 Is posting embellished falsehoods editorializing?: "more white children get sucked out of their moms monthly than any other race in America"

[quote]Frankly, white people (especially white men) who vote Democratic are self-loathing at this point.

Frankly, white people who vote Democratic are people who support the rule of law and the Constitution,

and who can tell when right winged media is filtering/lying to us.

r47, I'm a Democrat, I'm white, I'm a man, and I can't see any other valid option for someone who thinks that the US should represent the rule of law than to vote Democrat at this point. I have never felt the least bit of hostility towards me in any Democratic circle. What have you been smoking?

R41 Nope, look it up at multiple sources, Obama and Biden both deported more migrants than Trump did in his first term. They did it legally and not in such a brutal fashion just for TV and MAGA porn.

I was wrong about the first 100 days though... Trump deported fewer than Biden... comparing this year to fiscal year 2024, not just Biden's first 100 days (when COVID had so much shut down).

Do your research. Don't believe the sources that shape truth for nefarious purposes.

The LA protestors should move from ICE to Murdoch/Fox News...

R54 has a reading comprehension problem. You wrote: "Biden in his first 100 days deported more migrants than Trump has done in his first 100 days of this term." That statement is WRONG. Got it now?

R56 Perhaps your reading and my writing are both a problem. I corrected my mistake at R54 although that's not how you read it. Yes, the 100 day comparison was not correct. However, the rate of deportation of Trump's first 100 days is UNDER the rate of the Biden years, specifically FY 2024.

The total migrants deported in the full Obama term, and the full Biden term, was more that the full first Trump term. It was done legally, not just performative actions as though for a reality TV show. It's my conclusion that we are being played to amp up division, racism, anger... you may disagree with my conclusion, but facts are facts.

News flash to white people. You are not the dominant race on the planet.

[quote]The total migrants deported in the full Obama term, and the full Biden term, was more that the full first Trump term. It was done legally, not just performative actions as though for a reality TV show.

^ More bullshit. More rewriting of history.

Deportations under Obama:

ACLU - March 2015

"The majority of people deported from the United States each year are never given a chance to have their claims heard in court."

NYTimes: "More Hispanics Declaring Themselves White"

"Hispanics are often described as driving up the non white share of the population. But a new study of census forms finds that more Hispanics are identifying as white."

And this from USA Today:

r59. Migrants who cross the border illegally (that is to say, by entering walking across the desert, swimming across the Rio Grande, going through a tunnel - are not eligible for due process and can be deported. People who enter at an official US border crossing and declare themselves as asylum seekers cannot automatically be deported under international law that the US has signed onto. They must be given due process. Trump has upended that, but he is acting illegally.

[quote]People who enter at an official US border crossing and declare themselves as asylum seekers cannot automatically be deported under international law that the US has signed onto.

What percentage actually enter at "official US border crossings"?

"In FY 2021, only 4 percent of unauthorized migrants at the southwest border were encountered at ports of entry, while in FY 2023, this number rose to 17 percent." - Google AI overview

An aside: this is always good to remember:

[quote]People who enter at an official US border crossing and declare themselves as asylum seekers cannot automatically be deported under international law that the US has signed onto. They must be given due process.

Apparently what must happen and what actually does happen are two very different things.

This is the Obama administration:

R59, did you read the ACLU article or did you just cut and paste from a MAGA talking points sheet?

100% of immigrants who should have Due Process are NOT given Due Process protections.

R64 That is exactly my point. And that was under Obama. See the date of the article: 2015