Hollywood has left Los Angeles

[quote] In truth the death of the 22 episode television season probably killed production in Los Angeles forever

Weren't most of those already being filmed in Vancouver and Atlanta from roughly 2010 anyway?

Didn't we just have a thread like this, probably with the same article?

Boulevard of Broken Dreams

R2 a new article about the death of Hollywood (in LA) is being written every week

R1 Netflix which destroyed the 22 episode season, began producing shows with abbreviated seasons beginning in 2013

House of Cards - Maryland

Stranger Things, Ozark - Georgia

Orange is the New Black, Kimmy Schmidt - New York

The Crown - UK

Prior to that, some shows with shorter seasons like Walking Dead or Breaking Bad shot away from LA (Georgia and New Mexico, respectively) but the 22 episode model was still dominant. A 22 episode show shoots 9 or 10 months of a year.

Newscum just signed a deal giving California tax breaks. Hopefully it's not too little too late.

No posting history, r5?

It’s too late

LA was never going to survive the loss of the 22 episode production cycle

For example, in the past 25 years, the only Oscar-winning BPs which filmed significantly in LA take place in LA (Million Dollar Baby, Crash, The Artist, Argo, Everything Everywhere All at Once)

Los Angeles is not essential to production that only lasts two or three months. It is cheaper to go elsewhere

FWIW

NY: A Beautiful Mind, The Departed, Birdman, Anora

Massachusetts: The Departed, Spotlight, CODA

New Mexico: No Country for Old Men, Oppenheimer

Ontario: Chicago, Spotlight, The Shape of Water

Louisiana: 12 Years a Slave, Green Book

UK: Gladiator, The King’s Speech

Showbiz itself is undergoing a transformation. Like the internet and OnlyFans has killed studio porn, influencers and YT videos will likely do the same for big budget movies and TV. Don't get me wrong, they will always exist but when YTers are creating their own studios (often away from LA), it's obvious a shift is happening.

In 2016, Georgia overtook California as the state location with the most feature films produced overall.

Based on politicians greed....LA and CA has been going down a wrong path for years. We need to start voting for the best person and not for party.

And, that is how it should be with every political elected office.

This should be a surprise to no one. The world entertainment industry hasn't revolved around Hollywood in some time. Of course there are still Hollywood connections to many thing by way of production and distribution aspects, but it's an industry that, thanks to streaming TV, is grounded in a hundred geographic centers: writing, production, acting, distribution and licensing, etc.

Looking only at TV series and productions, I looked at a couple lists of Top 100 TV series of the 2020s, all of which were distributed in English language versions even when not produced as such. The results were similar for the two lists: Los Angeles had a significant hand or was the filming location for 8 productions on one list and 9 on another.

I have watched a few very good US TV series in this decade, but none of my favorites came out of Hollywood. Less than a fifth (to round up) came out of any part of the U.S. I watch Scandinavian and gory Polish crime dramas, various dramas from the UK, the majority of things from Spain or originally in Spanish langage, French, Italian, some Asian series,.. And it's not much different if I consider just films.

Hollywood is as fresh and exciting as a visit to the its world famous landmark, the Walk of Fame. And it's not going to turn around, neither for TV series, mini-series, nor for films.

[quote] In 2016, Georgia overtook California as the state location with the most feature films produced overall.

That was 9 years ago. Production is way down in Georgia these days. Happens to the best of us.

Great site, R11.

R12 from Variety 3 weeks ago:

[quote]Georgia Maintains Status as Top Production Hub in the Face of Industry Slowdowns

[quote]Thanks to the tax incentives up to 30% and its location landscapes and facilities, Georgia has become the go-to state for films and TV production

R14 put some correction up on r12 and probably loved doing it.

Marvel has abandoned Georgia—

Bump

I can never decide who's to blame. Did California drop the ball while other states were offering huge tax incentives, or did the unions cause production costs to go overboard? For the record, I'm not anti-union. The salaries of studio exes have gone overboard as well. Somebody fucked up, I'm just not sure who it was.

The former—read up

R14 Marvel, who filmed a large portion of their films in Georgia, has stopped using the state as often for their productions. So, yes, they are probably no longer at the top spot.

And since Trump took office, filming in the US, even for US based companies, will likely drop off as well. Over the past few months, many films/shows scheduled to begin production next year are now hoping to move over to the EU or Canada for filming. None of those companies want to loose out on the best talent if everyone is afraid to come here. Or afraid to leave.

Plus it is in all likelihood that Trump will start forcing censorship rules on these companies. Limits on anything queer, that presents POC or immigrants in a positive way or is historically accurate, is non-Christian that is positive or poignant (Holocaust comes to mind), or supportive of women/shows women in power, etc. Also anything written, directed or produced by someone Trump/Heritage Foundation find indecent/unpatriotic/too DEI.

We are at the beginnings of fascist rule. All of this is on the table.

Your third para is paranoia—ridiculous.

It's still a former shell of what it was. Cobra Kai, Ozark, Stranger Things all ended. They got 9 reality shows currently.

I wish we had 9 reality shows

Hollywood will always be Los Angeles. Atlanta is to LA like Debbie Gibson was to Madonna. The studios, the casting, the production companies, the post production companies are all here not to mention the history. Marvel was Atlanta's bread and butter and now it's London's tea & crumpet. The tax incentives will dry up eventually. But there's always Divorce Court Season 34.

r16, so had DC/New Line- they moved to England at Leavesden. Apparently London is too expensive to film now, and productions are going to Ireland.

California has one of the lowest rebates in the country (I think it's 28% as opposed to 30-35% elsewhere), and it only covers below the line people, whereas Atlanta and NY also covers above the line. Winnepeg has a crazy 40-65% rebate if a company produces there every 2 years. But I'm working at Paramount on Sugar S2, and the lot has been busy for the week, which is heartening to see.

The tax incentives offered for film and TV production are obscene. It is a total race to the bottom.

The entire movie 🎥 industry began in the NYC Area about 125 years ago and shifted to California after World War One and now it’s shifting away from California.

I was just in LA for a family thing and did a few studio tours. I don't think Hollywood will leave LA, but it will consolidate.

Another poster on DL wisely commented that once/if Universal buys WB, they will tear down most of the Universal soundstages/back lot and move everything to the Warner Brothers lot, which has everything.

They already tore some down to make room for Nintendo World.

The LA lifestyle is much better for people in the industry for networking and socializing. Anyway with AI it seems that you can shoot on a soundstage and have it look like you’re anywhere, the technology has gotten so good, but the downside is you can create simulated actors and don’t need the dozens of people with specific skills found on a film set. Why spend millions creating, say, a fake airport terminal or booking an expensive location shoot when it can just be digitally added and not look like it. Why hire and contend with a bunch of extras when they can just be added in. Who needs wardrobe people, makeup and hair people in case like that and on and on.

R6 Yes bitch he doesn’t have any posting history, what is the problem? How do you even know if it’s not signed.

R8 And I bet about a quarter of them, were black erotic thrillers with the worst writing since Passions was on the air. I said what I said.

[quote]The LA lifestyle is much better for people in the industry for networking and socializing.

Well, R29, maybe much better for people who already live in LA. But a lifestyle is not geographic -- you might define it is a such (Palm Beach Lily Pulitzer, Balearic Islands Credit Card Hippie, or Wyoming Ranch Tech Bro) but those constructions refer more and more to people who can be anywhere -- or work anywhere, to the loss of LA.)

Atlanta's a very boring city. I visited twice for work and couldn't wait to leave. LA has so much more to offer.