Sacre Bleu! France Bans Outdoor Smoking

Huge and most welcome. Shame vapes are excluded, for now.

France is OVER!

No one will abide - those filthy smokers don’t care

C'est si bon!

Those old black and white existential French films where nothing happens and they don't do anything but smoke make it seem like the coolest most glamourous thing in the world much more so than American films which also had plenty of smoking. You smoked and brooded about the pointlessness of it all.

LOL, French smokers (of which there are SO many) are going to FUME!

About time! France is so behind the curve on this one.

Smoking looked cool and I did it as well, but these cancers are out of control. So until we have a functional cure for lung cancer that takes at most a day at the hospital to administer, smoking bans it is.

R1 Really? A vape smoked outdoors is that much of an assault on your precious senses?

R9 Really? What, are you stupid? Or just mean?

R8 Smoking is disgusting, no doubt, but the rising cases of cancer are not from cigarette smoking, which is at an all-time historical low. It's from all the toxic processed foods, hormones, and microplastics we're putting in our bodies.

R5 please, those French films are boring as fuck.

Nothing cool about dreary.

You must be a Francophile.

r9 Yes, if someone is standing next to you and you get enveloped by a cloud of vape fog, it can make you choke up. Happened to me several times and has nothing to do with "precious senses", assface. I'm a former smoker, too.

Last week, a kid on a packed bus right in front of me was secretly inhaling small hits from his vape pen, and the sugary stench almost made me vomit because of the heat outside. And there was a mother with a newborn in a stroller right next to us as well. He couldn't wait ten minutes to get off that bus to vape, it's clearly even more addictive than regular smoking.

R3: "No one will abide - those filthy smokers don’t care"

I will, how you say, shove in face. But playfully, non? So playfully.

Can we ban old lady perfumes as well?

R10 Ok, on a crowded bus with infants is a different story. We were talking about outdoors.

Vapes have no second hand smoke--it's literally just water vapor. And it either smells like nothing or something relatively inoffensive like cherry cola or donuts or whatever, which is no more of an odor violation than walking past someone with heavy cologne or stinkt perfume. I for one am massively grateful for the mass transition to vapes because it means I don't have to be surrounded by noxious plumes of cigarette smoke wherever I go, which does actually effect me and my health. Someone smoking a vape effects me no more than if they were chewing nicorette gum--which is to say, not at all. I don't care if it's addictive to them, it doesn't effect me, and it's monumentally better for one's health than cigarettes.

R16 is a vape addict and will justify the use of vapes with any corporate propaganda necessary.

[quote] It's from all the toxic processed foods, hormones, and microplastics we're putting in our bodies.

It’s most certainly not. The majority of people who die of lung cancer are smokers.

A comment about this on Twitter:

Good. If there is anyplace more in danger of catching on fire, it's a large strip of sand that merges into a gigantic body of water.

Presumably outdoor cafes are exempt. You can walk into a fog of Gauloises in and out of restaurants and cafes, or just by sauntering past.

Jesus. No one bother France until they've collectively adjusted to this new policy. The crankiness must be unbearable.

The better solution is to ban children from all outdoor spaces where someone might be smoking.

r13, your hatred of vape smells is a matter of personal taste and not on the same level as second-hand cigarette smoke. You shouldn't expect other people to change just to make you more comfortable. All you can do is remove yourself from the situation.

The fact that you had to bring up the example of a teenager hot-boxing a bus with a flavored vape shows that you have no real argument. The vast majority of people wouldn't do something this inconsiderate.

I was waiting for a bus once, and this horrid little man started vaping. Suddenly everything smelled like we were inside a Glade plug-in. If there is a god, surely someone pushed this stench-creating POS in front of a large moving vehicle.

France..... You're 15/20 years behind other countries.

I don't know how some of you princess and the peas manage to make your way through the world everyday with such delicate little nosies. How do you walk through a mall or step into a subway station or fly in coach?

Just invest in a gas mask already and put yourself out of your misery.

Go fuck yourself r26. Use one of those steel grill brushes and give it several twists and twirls. For you do not deserve to live. Or even breathe.

Viscious anti-smoker worse than MAGA^^

[quote] France..... You're 15/20 years behind other countries.

The Balkans are far worse.

R12 I did say in those films nothing happens. But it to me it does look cool and I want to grab a cigarette. But I do find the actual act of smoking one disgusting as well as just breathing in the smoke. And I grew up in a home where I was enveloped very young in second hand Kent smoke which I was used to until the Dr told my father he was going to die from it and he stopped immediately. My siblings and I none of us ever smokers could possibly die of lung cancer.

[quote]Vapes have no second hand smoke--it's literally just water vapor.

Second-hand vape smoke irritates my throat worse than second-hand cigarette smoking.

“If you are around somebody who is using e-cigarettes, you are breathing an aerosol of exhaled nicotine, ultra-fine particles, volatile organic compounds, and other toxins.” Dr. Stanton Glantz, Director for the Center for Tobacco Control Research and Education at the University of California, San Francisco.

Dumb! This is just force the children to smoke indoors.

A French co-worker of mine was kicked off a Transavia flight for secretly vaping before take-off, and banned from flying both Transavia and its sister airline KLM for six months. (No, and then she didn't die).

Kent was such a pussy cigarette, like inhaling warm air.

I don’t know about France, but when recently booking hotel rooms in Japan I was surprised to find that they still offer smoking rooms. I don’t think I’ve seen that in the US since the 90s (when I used to want to smoke inside). Getting people off cigarettes is one of the few things this country has done right compared to other places for the last several decades.

Japan is a big smoking country.

Bonne chance with that!

The second hand smoke from the Gaulois, a popular French cigarette brand, is like sucking the tailpipe of a diesel engine. The users don't seem to notice. My grandmother smoked them and never opened her apartment windows. I loved my French granny but I couldn't stand visiting that nicotine box she lived in.

R8 as if lung cancer is the main problem that arises from cig smoking. CVD is the main issue in terms of greater numbers. Heart disease, Lung cancer is just one of many cancers that are more common with smokers

So many French films are going to look out of date now.

How much weight will they gain?

R41 That was my thought as well. All those smug, skinny frenchies will be fat whores in no time at all.

We will look très chic sitting in front of a Cafe and blow the smoke right into the faces of the fat tourists waddling by, looking for the nearest Mc Donalds.

The French are skinny.

Like those very chic NY socialites of the mid and later 20th Century who secretly smoked liked chimneys to keep themselves haute couture thin and then died of cancer in their 60s.

Not all of them r45

At one time not all that long ago approximately 50% of all adults were addicted daily smokers until today where even outdoor smoking is being banned. This is what happens when society turns on you.

Indoor smoking is gross, but I really don't care if somebody wants to suck down a ciggie in a park.

R46 yes Lee lived fairly long.

That grizzled old cunt lived well into her 80s, r49.

Only relevant indirectly since there have been all the comments about vapes, I’m currently trying to quit smoking and tried a vape as an interim grading down, and found the vape much more harsh in terms of coughing etc., and developed the worst chest infection I’ve had in years, whether thats related to cutting down on cigarettes or using the vape of course up for debate. A friend of mine suggested I try zyns for a few weeks and wow are they a great solution. No tobacco at all, and I haven’t had mood swings or intense cravings. Stings a little on the gums, and bad taste in your mouth for a few minutes but very low level. Ive gone 1+ year in the past of not smoking before so I can definitely do it, it’s just a matter of getting through the first three weeks. Wish me luck!

R51 In the few weeks after I quit smoking, I too had worse shit coming out of my lungs than I ever did while actively smoking a pack a day, and that was without any vaping. I would wake up in the morning hacking so hard I was afraid I would pull something. I also immediately got some weird upper respitory thing that felt like it took months to subside. Apparently it's because your body is attempting to clear everything out of your lungs rapidly that it hasn't had the ability to in years. NAC helps tremendously to speed the process up.

Good on you for quitting!

The French smokers may die from the shock of the ban and not from smoking.

That’s why Brigitte smacked Emmanuel.

Don’t get between a French bitch and her Gauloises.

And the streets rapidly emptied in Paris

Thanks R52, yea the clearing out is horrible 😓 I’ll get some NAC like you suggested

R51 You won't quit smoking because you're trying to quit smoking. Trying always fails. You have to make the decision right now, that you will never touch another cigarette again. My godmother smoked for 30 years and gave it up just like that as soon as she was diagnosed with mild emphysema. Her father had died from it and it terrified her so she stopped immediately, not gradually and without any help. Her emphysema disappeared and she never smoked again. She's 83 now and quit 25 years ago. Her husband "tried" to stop smoking many times but couldn't and so he died from lung cancer.

At a time when I smoked, there was nothing better than going to a Paris bar and lighting up. Alas.

I haven't smoked in years but to this day I can still conjure up the taste of Marlboro Reds in my mouth.

Nobody in contemporary France uses "sacre bleu," OP. It's as obsolete as fiddle tunes played by Jean Carignan (indeed, WHO?) and warships in the Baltic (with apologies to Prefab Sprout)

La vache !

And r60 wins the Nobody Could Give A Fuck Award.

DL has always been provincial and behind the times. Nothing new there.

R60 You're right. Now they use Arab slang.

Fucking Muslims everywhere in Paris, it's so gross.

Rather late for some of us, I'd say.

^^Burn baby burn!

r38 you've reminded me of when I was working in Bucharest back in 2017- they had enforced a no outdoor smoking ban a year and a half before, much to great protestation. My co-worker had broken his iphone screen and we found a place to replace it, in what seemed like an apartment building, and when we opened the door, 50 years of baked-in nicotine oozed out. You could see the nicotine stained walls. I had to go outside, the stench was so foul.

A few weeks later, a saw a mother carrying her newborn, with a cig in her mouth.

R60 manque la logique alors qu'elle bave de fierté.

Grosse chatte.

I was in Mostar, Bosnia-Hercegovina recently - the first time in my life when I felt sick from secondhand smoke. Every building stinks of it. Even the shopping mall. There was an old man who would smoke in the stairwell of the apartment building where I stayed...every time I went out he was standing there.

France is nowhere near that bad - sure, they smoke on cafe terraces and waiting for the train, but inside public buildings it's been banned for quite awhile.

Does that mean we can only smoke indoors?

R68 it could've been a boy baby

I don’t understand how these anti smokers have to probem to be in the presence of cars belching exhaust fumes , but somebody pulls out a vape and they’re choking to death

* NO problem

R73 it’s kind of like the new trans forward Pride flag. Some gay men get sick just looking at it. Even if it does not directly and personally impact them. It’s the idea of something they can’t stomach,

This is what happens when a small sub-group of our population becomes hated and smokers have become hated by the majority. At one time smokers as most TMC viewers know were once very popular. Now treated like lepers.

At one time, not exactly unlike Pride, there were pro smoking events and parades, now smokers are a despised minority. It’s less the second hand smoke than the smoker.

And here is the issue for the next gay male STD related outbreaks.

Smokers were not demonized because of the Bible or that people did not like them or had anything to do with smell or stink, it all had to do with how much disease and $$$ lost to disease and preventing disease smokers cost the rest of society..

Once the risk and cost was accepted by lots of articles and news stories the no smoking areas, the fines, the taxes, the refusal to hire, the public scorn , the PSAs, all of that then followed . And shortly after a steady and significant decline in what is a true hardcore addiction.

It’s an unpleasant model that works.

Merde

And yet the Bear Leather Daddy crowd think it's hot to smoke big fat cigars. Sorry girls, that does not make you look more masculine, that's about as cool as the purse that drops out of your mouth when you talk.

[quote]it’s kind of like the new trans forward Pride flag. Some gay men get sick just looking at it. Even if it does not directly and personally impact them. It’s the idea of something they can’t stomach,

What kind of twisted logic is that? Some gay me, actually many, maybe the majority are not happy with the "progress flag" because it shits all over the original flag and what it stood for. EVERYONE was covered under the rainbow, not just gay men. Adding your own stink to it by including race and gender identity are totally different things. On top of that, it's a money grab as the inventor has a copyright on it for commercial use. The Graphic Designer Gilbert Baker (at the request of Harvey Milk) who designed the original pride flag could have do so himself but instead he chose to make it a gift to the community, not a way to make a buck off it.

So yes it does impact many personally as it's a re-write and money grab of what was once a beautiful gift to the community.