Why won't Cher help her son? What a bitch.

Poor guy.

Maybe he's burned his bridges with her? 🤷‍♀️

He looks like a fat, younger Eric Clapton.

Yikes—by the looks of that photo, he's about to stumble back into the Chateau to OD at any moment.

He was a very good-looking guy at one time.

What do you expect Cher to do, OP? Her son is a grown man pushing 50.

Elijah's wife (maybe ex-wife now) accused Cher of trying to kidnap him a few years back because Cher was reportedly trying to have him put into a conservatorship because of his mental health illness and drug abuse. I presume she was hoping to keep him from blowing all his money on drugs. Elijah pushed back and Cher dropped her pursuit. He can live on the streets like James Brolin's other son Jess.

Spoken like someone who has never tried to help somebody get clean.

This mess and “Chas” are a real testament to the Cher Parenting Method.

What in the spice?

DL is such a great source of these cautionary tales involving celebrity kids. Just wow.

He sure has blown up in the past year.

And can't you smoke in the Chateau Marmont now? What is the world coming to?

He looks very much like his dad in that picture. And apparently he is very much like his dad.

This is sad & it isn't going to end well and while she was probably never Mother of the Year, she's clearly used her resource to at least keep in from living off the streets

R11 Not even Dunhills in the square box?

OP = Elijah's desperate girlfriend.

wow does he look strung out

The Daily Mail's headline of this story reads, "Cher's sweat-stained zombie son". Classic bitchy Mail.

Cher has tried for years to help her son get clean. One of the most heartbreaking things for a parent is to realize that there's only so much they can do and that sometimes they simply have to walk away.

Kids. What can you do?

The holidays are the hardest r18

Of hes staying at that hotel (is he vacationing or living?) either way its not too shoddy. Many people had dead beat parents but they get on with life. Cher may eventually stopped enabling him and is trying tough love.( But im someone successful whos dad was so uninterested, never visited any school i went to and even said he never lijed me; and a mom who was so on the edge, u darent tell her any problems u had, as she made it worse, they certainly wouldnt have helped me if i was a deadbeat).

Right. And when Cher tries to help Elijah, she gets called a control freak. Elijah and his then-wife fought against a conservatorship and this is where it's at...

Did you all fall for OP's bitchy dead-pan troll? Talk about projection, OP.

Cher took this to court. Zombie Elijah and the creepy wife won.

And yes, she did try to force him into treatment aka "kidnapping him".

The money he lives on comes from a trust set up by his father. Not from his mother.

Her best hope is that he ODs and winds up in the hospital. Once he's in it's much easier to keep him there.

What r22 said.

My addict's heart goes out to any addict who is still suffering.

Cher took this as far as she legally could to try to help her adult son.

I know from personal experience that I didn't WANT help, much less followed through on getting it, until I was facing 2 deaths- 1. alive and dead drunk and 2. dead.

What a heartache for all parents having to worry, wait, hope, and then perpetually being on alert for that phone call....

[quote]What a bitch.

No, she's probably done everything she can and is going through hell worrying.

She attempted to have him kidnapped two years ago and put in a clinic. Where the fuck have you been, OP!?

He's been in the basement trolling trolling trolling, r26. Thinks his cunting snark is witty gay repartee.

She tried. She failed. He doesn't want the help he needs.

You have to let them go.

Just as OP's mother let him go when she realized what a cunt she was.

Op why disrespect Cher like that. Trolling ass cunt.

At least I shower and I don't look like a beached whale. Leave me alone!!

He needs to hook up with Carol Burnets grandson and have a reality show.

Dead man walking.

[qupte] Why won't Cher help her son?

Seems like she tried many times. He doesn't want help. Addicts need to want to get better.

[quote] Kids. What can you do?

My kids are fine, Cyndi.

ABORT ABORT ABORT!

CHUCK IT DOWN THE PAN!

I used to think to myself, "If my life wasn't so fucked up, I wouldn't have to do all these drugs!"

Little did I know that it was all the drugs that were making my life so fucked up in the first place.

It's not Cher's fault -- we all know whose genes he inherited. I hope he finds some peace.

If Elijah is really breaking up with the freaky wife he'll be losing his enabler.

This could be a big advantage to getting him into treatment.

It must be hard to have children that are wayward and confused in adulthood...

R37 I applaud you for your 40+ plus year sobriety. You mind if I ask what was your vice of habit?

He’s okay…he’s doing fine.

Nature>Nurture Trash genes yield trash children.

Dating and shopping were always more important to Cher than parenting. Which is why her kids are both a tragedy and voluntarily estranged from her.

[quote] My addict's heart goes out to any addict who is still suffering. Cher took this as far as she legally could to try to help her adult son. I know from personal experience that I didn't WANT help, much less followed through on getting it, until I was facing 2 deaths- 1. alive and dead drunk and 2. dead. What a heartache for all parents having to worry, wait, hope, and then perpetually being on alert for that phone call....

Della dear, thank you for sharing your story and I quite agree. I am another who came from a drunk/drugging family and learned how to abuse everything at an early age. I thought I was doing quite well covering it up until everyone I knew complained about my substance abuse. I had several interventions, but was convinced I could handle myself... until I couldn't.

It wasn't until I was so far down that I couldn't find any way to get up and out of it. Then, I understood what the old AA phrase "Let GO and let GOD" really meant. Perhaps, it was just resigning to a higher power than myself to help me. Nevertheless, I found my way out of my mess and now realize I cannot casually drink or drug... I just don't have the constitution for it physically or mentally~ so I must abstain. Once I really understood what that meant I found a way to claw myself into sobriety and lead life in a new way that I enjoy.

Of course, none of what I say helps a using addict, so I can only wait until they receive their enlightenment and offer help when they are ready and ask for it. Sadly, many die before they get that far and Cher must realize by now that Elijah Blue may be one of them.

[quote]She attempted to have him kidnapped two years ago and put in a clinic.

I warned her about half measures but she refused to listen.

Not specifically directed to Cher & her situation with her Elijah, but generally directed toward the celebrities who seemingly have it completely pulled tightly together because of large successes that have provided career longevity & public adoration. Ultimately, no matter how generous they may seem on the outside, celebrities are selfish people, and at toxic levels. Even people mentioned in this tread who seem so kind, concerned & altruistic have truly fucked up kids, offsprings who've been the victims of neglectful, delegated, absentee & materially supplemented parenting by purely self-interested parents. Carol Burnett, who I'm sure is a wonderful person professionally, has 2 daughters who fell prey to drug addiction. Cyndi Lauper's son has proven to be a substance addicted delinquent. Spielberg has a daughter who proclaimed her foray into porn as a legit career move. (Argue all you want, but exploiting your own sexual intimacy for strangers realistically is not a sign of healthy mental fortitude.) Ryan O'Neil's kids publicslly suffered the consequences of addition. The list goes on & on. So sure, even ordinary parents have children who experience these same types of challenges, but I wonder how many of the children of celebrities would have been spared such miserable fates without the involvement/influence of self-centered, narcissistic parents.

Cher seems histrionic but not narcissistic.

She should never have given birth to him, for his sake. He was doomed.

[quote]suffered the consequences of addition

It is every parent's worst nightmare.

Too late, Patsy at R36.

Now all there is to do is WALK AWAY AND CHANGE THE LOCKS.

It seems like Cher has tried, but he's a legal adult who has apparently been deemed competent to handle his own affairs.

She cannot DO anything. Handing him money is just enabling him and a complete waste.

You cannot "help" someone who won't help themselves.

Thank you, Tallulah, dear.

I'm better-off today by your service work in posting at r44.

"It's better for me to want what I have than have what I want."

Cher's children = shitty messes, walking miscarriages & stupid, entitled cunts.

[quote]It's not Cher's fault -- we all know whose genes he inherited.

Well, yes, but maybe it was unwise to fall for (and have a child with) a notorious addict. (See also Melissa Etheridge.)

As long as he has the funds to hang out at places like the Chateau Marmont, he'll never hit rock bottom.

Once he starts hanging out at skid row flop houses downtown, then maybe he'll get the help he so desperately needs.

It's wild when these celebs try to help their kids when they're in their 30s and 40s when everyone knows their fucked up upbringing is what made them that way.

I am hearing Ozempic can help the alcoholic

Kidnap him and lock him in a detox center.

I trust Cher in all things.

[quote]but generally directed toward the celebrities who seemingly have it completely pulled tightly together because of large successes that have provided career longevity & public adoration. Ultimately, no matter how generous they may seem on the outside, celebrities are selfish people, and at toxic levels

What's interesting is that a lot of the biggest divas, and the ones who have had some of the worst reputations in the industry seemed to have raised some the most well adjusted celebrity kids.

You never hear of Jason Gould getting into any trouble. Diana's kids are close and have a good relationship with her. Mariah's kids aren't wilding out. Bette's daughter lives a low-key married life. Madonna's kids aren't plastered all over the tabloids. Even Faye Dunaway's son is low key and stays out of trouble.

I don't doubt that Cher is a loving mother, but she had Elijah out on the road touring with her as her guitarist when he was 13.

I don't think Greg Allman's genes are completely to blame in all of this.

Is he wearing a camisole underneath that ratty t-shirt in the picture at R1?

R61 Great life for a kid.

[quote]One of the most heartbreaking things for a parent is to realize that there's only so much they can do and that sometimes they simply have to walk away.

Because you didn't to your job when they were young is more like it.

Is he wearing a ladies blouse and tank top? Also those shoes look like old lady comfort shoes.

R40, it's an interesting question for me to answer.

My favorite drug was heroin, which was cheap and very pure when I was stationed in Germany. But I didn't shoot it all the time. I shot it for two or three days, and when I started to get a little sick from the lack of it, I'd take something else -- usually Mandraxx, a Quaalude equivalent, which was sold over the counter in Germany.

I shot speed, took acid, snorted cocaine. I smoked hash in Germany, and I smoked pot every minute of the day I wasn't working when I got back to the U.S. I quit smoking cigarettes because I chain-smoked joints. And you absolutely will feel withdrawal symptoms from pot when you quit after smoking it like that. When I quit, I didn't sleep for three weeks.

And of course, as a last resort when there weren't any [italic]good[/italic] drugs around, I drank. Bourbon. But not for long. I could always find drugs somewhere if I looked hard enough.

I thought I had it all under control (seriously!) because I didn't use the same drug all the time. It took me awhile to realize that I was high from the time I woke up until the time I passed out at night.

A long answer, I know, R40. But yeah, it was serious enough that I got clean/sober at 22 and have been that way ever since. I left AA and all its cult craziness behind after 22 years of meetings, but AA was necessary for me for the first 10 years or so, and I was grateful to have it. Thanks for asking.

R64 Sometimes. Sometimes not.

My brother and I were raised by the same parents. I never got into drinking or drugs, but my brother became a mess in his 20s and still hasn't cleaned up 40 years later. It's not always mom and dad's fault.

Cher's son is a tranny, too?

I like blue

Sadly there are times when some people are simply beyond help and you have to pull back and let the natural course of events take over. You can not destroy yourself to save another who clearly doesn't want help.

Elijah should be added to the thread about women getting their nails done. In the depths of addiction he at least has one acrylic hanging on for dear life.

He's a repulsive mess but I still see Gregg Allman and some traces of handsomeness. He's thrown his life away.

If we had a decent courts system he would have been committed to in-patient treatment long ago. From the looks of things he probably needs at least a year of in-patient treatment.

R71 = “Flashdance” realness!

From a 2024 article. Cher, should try again.

Cher has failed in her attempt to take control of her adult son's finances through an emergency conservatorship after a court in Los Angeles ruled there was not sufficient evidence of his alleged drug abuse.

A spokesperson for Los Angeles County Superior Court confirmed Monday night that the court had ruled in favor of Elijah Blue Allman, 47, who was resisting the order and argued that he is now drug-free.

Elijah's nearly 50 and has been a fuck up his whole life. There are a lot of younger middle-aged substance abusers in this country right now. And a lot of parents letting their adult kids move back in or raising their grandchildren. I see that in the small Upper MI town I live in. In Elijah's case, his father had little to do with his upbringing and a mother who had to work. Elijah's an addict and has been since his teen years. It's on him, not his famous parents.

Is he in John Belushi’s room?

I have been sober for 17 years and had deeply abusive narc mom and a workaholic /alcoholic dad. My dad loved me deeply but he had had no idea how to parent a child who had been traumatized by their psycho mother. I drank to deal with the pain. Addiction is not excuse for bad behaviour but it is a reason.

In the end though you *must* take responsibility for your own behaviour. Cher was by her own account - obsessed with work and she sent Elijah to boarding school when he was really young. His dad was not a part of his childhood at all.

She may having caused him pain but she is not responsible for his addiction. The man is almost 50. Give me a break. He looks like he is at the point of end stage addiction. Incredibly sad all around.

The toy boy will be rubbing his hands at the thought of an Elijah RIP, more cash for him!!

Addictions are bitch. Poor guy. Hope he can make it out and become sober

When the Baldwin clan comes across social media, I wonder how those kids will fare. I have a feeling we will be seeing them getting into all kinds of trouble in the next 10 years

[quote]Kidnap him and lock him in a detox center

He'd relapse the microsecond he got out. Like others have said, he has to hit true rock bottom - homeless and alone in Skid Row like the rest of severely addicted Angelenos - and WANT to get better on his own.

A 32 year old cousin went from being a chain smoker in high school to a meth and crack addict. His parents don't give him money. However they never gave him boundaries or rules (a requirement for any Taurean, because we are beyond willful).

His Aquarian younger brother respects his parents, is easygoing, successful, and knows his limits to drugs and alcohol.

His brother will not live to be an old man.

R60, rich people do not raise their kids.

If he has mental health issues then that’s a whole other ball of wax. He could be using to self medicate.

None of us have any idea what he’s been through. Too much judgement on this thread because it involves a celebrity. People need to learn to separate the public image from the private.

The Baldwin children and the Kardahian/West children are completely fucked. It is evident now. Imagine ten years from now...

r82 Some do. As much as I dislike her for associating with shit like Alok, Jodie Foster was and most likely still is an involved hands-on mum. I remember her saying how taken aback she was at other wealthy parents not even giving their kids baths.

Diana Ross is the same.

[quote] In Elijah's case, his father had little to do with his upbringing and a mother who had to work.

"had to work"?

No, Cher was quite wealthy by the time she had Elijah Blue. She [italic]chose[/italic] to continue working, which is of course absolutely her right (and the right of any wealthy parent). But it is incorrect to say she HAD to work.

He's 48. Time to let him stand or fall on his own.

Streisand also has a fat, slovenly, probably homeless (step)-son wandering around the Los Angeles area.

Thankfully, neither of Cher’s unfortunate spawn have procreated, thus preventing her horrific genes from infecting future generations.

What a shame they're not well-adjusted, contributing members of society, like me.

R90 That is just his fashion steez. So he likes to dress like a runway drag queen. How exactly is he not a well adjusted contributing member of society. Oh that’s right because how he dresses. Btw I don’t know that he is a well adjusted contributing member of society. I would presume so you never hear about him being arrested, in/out rehab, bar fights. Did someone mention him or suntin’. What does he have to do with Cher?

^^^^ I don't think Chaz was arrested or involved in bar fights etc., was he/they?

R92 I don’t know but I’m still lost as to the EJ reference. Maybe I should scroll up and real ALL the comments. EJ Johnson is not transgender. He is just highly effeminate and styles himself like a woman or trans woman would. Sometimes he will walk around in regular sweatpants or whatever but best believe if it’s an event, he will be styled like a WNBA player meets Paris Fashion week.

Magic never tried to put his kid in ex gay therapy like Cher tried with Chaz. Cher also hit the roof when Chastity came out.

[quote]In the depths of addiction he at least has one acrylic hanging on for dear life.

Isn't that just a coke nail?

I'm with R91 here, EJ just likes to dress up, big deal. People can wear what they want. I personally think EJ's a lot braver than men who claim they have lady feelz.

R94 They just that use “gay conversion camp” as an umbrella term. Chaz was born in the 60s. Cher wasn’t against gay rights but wanting to change your sex was not fully understood. Anybody could make that mistake as a parent. To think you were born in the wrong body. Come on now. We all raise our kids with self love. You would think you failed as a parent . Back then I’m saying.

R96 right. It takes one helluva man to walk around in 6 inch stilettos and still say I’m a man, not binary, not transgender. Especially because he doesn’t dress like that all the time.

Poor Chee.

EJ is gender fluid and rigidly so. He can be whatever he wants but making a big part of your life as a man dressing like an arty rich woman is an odd choice if one is not a transvestite, in the old fashioned way. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. He's a cross-dresser.

R97 This is when Chastity came out as a lesbian. Sonny Bono was supportive, Cher had a fit and threw her out of the house. Then she wanted her to go to ex gay therapy.

Reality show. Him James Brolins son and Jerry Lewis daughter Hollywood homeless am I missing anyone?

That’s her ex-husband, R88.

My god his fingers are caked with nicotine ! How fucking gross . Leave EJ alone . He isnt bothering a soul,or running around acting like a lunatic . Thanks to his dad EJ will have "Fuck you" money all his life . Hell,hes been wealthy all his life . Yet unlike so many other celebrity kids he isnt a drug addicted mess. I firmly believe had they all not been wealthy and probably indulged all their lives most of them may not have turned out so fucked up.

[quote]Isn't that just a coke nail?

A coke nail is just an untrimmed nail, usually the pinky nail. Cab drivers always have them.

That’s like some kind of drag queen-esque show-nail.

Cher and Chaz didn’t talk for like a week after she came out and she never tried to put her in “conversion therapy”. Cher herself said she reacted badly and it was out of embarrassment because everyone knew before she did. Chaz was somewhat estranged from Sonny when he died because he of his support of a gay marriage ban.

[quote]Yet unlike so many other celebrity kids he isnt a drug addicted mess.

Are we still talking about Elijah Blue Altman? Because the article at OP indicates that yes, he very much is a drug-addicted mess.

[quote]r5 What do you expect Cher to do, OP? Her son is a grown man pushing 50.

Still, Cherilyn is jealous of his youth. And so will not lift a finger. Not even a referral to work in Barbra's mall.

Its TEAFAKE defending cross dresser EJ again non existent attacks.

He probably hasn't hit rock bottom yet

James Brolin's son at least looks clean

Cher's son is filthy (look at his armpit)

Elijah looked fine only 14 months ago. What a crash.

[quote]EJ just likes to dress up, big deal

Does EJ have a job? What exactly is he contributing to society?

Seriously, why can’t Elijah and Justin Brolin work in Barbra’s goddamn mall? The place practically runs itself now, with Jason doing the scheduling and inventory from home most days, and Roslyn handling the bookkeeping. Just let those other two losers empty the trash and polish the wall sconces or something.

It could be “a bridge back” and the responsibility would be good for them.

^^ sorry, JESS Brolin…. not Justin[bold] : (

I wonder if the root of his trauma was seeing his dad try to impersonate Clark Gable in a bad movie.

That could be very disorienting.

Why can’t he behave himself like Chaz?

[quote]Does EJ have a job? What exactly is he contributing to society?

He contributes to the economy by shopping.

Why do you care, anyway?

He's probably going crazy waiting for her to die. Most rockers don't live past 75.

Buck would have never walked out of the Chateau Marmont looking like that.

You can't help someone who doesn't admit they have a problem

Is R104 paying attention to the subject of this entire thread?

Why do some junkies still look good and other look like this or that Davis guy who had an open sore and was fat

I think he must have other health issues going on as well. Look at his ankles. They are swollen and the skin is tight and shiny. Must be some kind of fluid retention.

^ Drugs and booze can cause that

So, ya come craaaaawlin’ back to Barbra’s mall. Well, Barbra’s mall don’t go fer BOOZE an’ DOPE!

Jason Gould hasn't gotten into trouble because he doesn't do ANYTHING.

R126 If I had a generous gazillionaire mother neither would I ! Hate the game,not the player.

I have fantasies that Jason and Roslyn meet for secret lunches once a month, and charge it all to his “for emergencies” card. Then they rent roller skates or go to an amusement park, laughing about crazy Babs.

I’m sure Cher is still supporting both of the them.

My Jason's a good boy.