Gen X was supposed to be peaking. Instead their careers and finances are tanking

Vote for Trump again. And again. And again.

Dumb shit heads!

Bwahahahaha.

Gen X was never supposed to peak OP, they have been the under dog ever since the Boomers ruled the world. Boomers kept all the high paying job, Boomers held on to their wealth until they passed it down to their Millennial offspring to buy houses.

Yes—and our master plan continues to work!

Yes, blame everybody else.

R2 uh didn't they grow up in the prosperous Reagan 80s? They must have taken a lot of those Republican talking points to heart.

Maybe they shouldn't have gone for Trump.

Well the same goes for Gen Z males, White Women, who voted for Trump. Women lost rights for the first time in history and now anyone who has a student loan is going to be forced to pay up bitches. No rescue, no handouts. Sorry it costs 100,000 for a no name school, Boomer did this to you.

R7 who are the parents of Gen Z males? Did you know that Gen X women were the only demographic of women who broke for Trump?

Gen X was the generation most impacted by school busing. They trend conservative on issues of race, though not on gender.

Gen X:

1. Grew up under 12 consecutive years of Republican Presidents and Conservative propaganda.

2. They were the last generation to grow up in a mainly homogeneous and segregated society. It wasn't until their early 20s in the 1990s, when America's population started to become heavily diversified.

3. They were the first generation to experience a major technological transition between their youth and their adulthood, which drastically changed the social and economic fabric of the US.

In other words, the world has dramatically changed, between their childhood years and their retirement years, and they long for the world of their youth - which they will never get back.

But they keep voting conservative, in hopes that it will turn back the clock for them.

[quote]Sorry it costs 100,000 for a no name school, Boomer did this to you.

No, Gen Z and Gen X did it to themselves by voting Trump.

[quote]Boomers kept all the high paying job, Boomers held on to their wealth until they passed it down to their Millennial offspring to buy houses.

TONS of Boomers are the parents of Gen Xers, esp. Xers born in the 70s.

Everybody seems to forget about all of the Xers born in the second half of the 70s, of which I am one. We had Boomer parents and were children of the 80s. Kurt Cobain was a full decade or more older than us.

Whatever OP.

Same here, R13.

My parents were both born in 1950, and I was born in 1978. Their siblings and friends were born in the late 40s and early 50s and had children in the 70s and 80s.

At least we got to experience the pre-smartphone, pre-internet lifestyle.

I’m 49 and living this career meltdown right now. I’m a very good saver and was on track to retire early but the wheels have really fallen off my career bus. The struggle is very real.

Just buy two dolls, R17.

This is the year a beanie baby collection might actually pay off.

I'm 55 and will be devastated if I lose my job. I was unemployed for 3 years before my current role, which ate up a lot of my savings. I'm finally starting to recover financially and now this orange shithead is knowingly ruining our economy. I can't imagine I'll find another job after this, not only because of my age but also the increased competition from the millions of other soon to be unemployeds.

If I were a few years older I MIGHT be able to make it work until I can collect Social Security, but that would be at the lowest amount (and I think for people born in 1970 the minimum age is now 65?)

Many of us are FUCKED UP THE ASS WITH BARBED WIRE.

[quote] I'm finally starting to recover financially and now this orange shithead is knowingly ruining our economy.

I could bitchslap every fucking one of those idiot MAGAts for doing this. All because they're terrified that some tranny might be pissing in the stall next to them.

"But MUH FREEDOMS!"

At least we have our houses HA HA

Good, you can keep it.

r22 maybe not for long!

Glad a married a millennial who loves to work and is 15 years younger than me. That's my retirement plan. Then my portfolio will have 15 more years to grow for his retirement. Note to self: give blow job tonight.

Why do people on this site continually bitch about Gen X voting for Trump? I’m right on that GenX/millennial line, so I guess technically I could be either, but I was raised more Gen X. Anyway, I’ve never voted Republican in my life. And neither have my friends that are my age. For that matter, neither have my friends who are older than me.

To be clear, I am not a “homeowner” of any kind.

R25 don't be so certain

By the numbers, Gen X leans Trump. What, do you think it’s an entire generation of smart people?

R25- your situation sounds so tenuous. Marriages end overnight. What if your millennial spouse meets someone else? Goes crazy? Has a midlife crisis? Trust me when I tell you he’ll be picturing someone else when you’re giving him a blow job tonight. Just hope it’s a celebrity and someone he doesn’t know.

R29 is any generation entirely smart or entirely dumb? Have you seen millennials and Gen Z? Many of them actually believe that they are an infinite number of genders. Leaning Democratic is not completely indicative of being highly intelligent.

It’s smarter than voting for fucking Trump.

[quote] In other words, the world has dramatically changed, between their childhood years and their retirement years, and they long for the world of their youth - which they will never get back. But they keep voting conservative, in hopes that it will turn back the clock for them.

Not gay men or lesbians. Speaking for myself I would NEVER go back to those days. I miss nothing about it, hated conservatives even back then. Not to mention the avocado appliances and brown kitchens, shag carpet and ugly fashion.

As for technology, I am grateful I grew up in a world without it so I can navigate the world without a smart phone if I have to. But I love technology. First guy in my circle of friends and family to get a computer, digitize all my music before Apple came along, cut the cable, ditch mainstream banks for online banking, build a website before temples existed, and built 2 computers totally from scratch during the pandemic, none of which I had training for.

None of the people my age yearn to back to those days, your premise is false and very simplistic. 20 years from now we can blame the entire generation Z for Trump. Even if they didn't vote for him. That's how your logic works.

Let's assume you're a person born in 1970.

From 1976-1980, Democrat Jimmy Carter was demonized for being weak, for inflation, for long gas lines, and for American hostages taken in Iran. You would have been 6-10 years old at the time.

From 1981-1988, Republican Ronald Reagan swept into office, as the savior of America. He took responsibility for it being "Morning in America" again, and all the other conservative bullshit that came along with it. He was the kindly President, and the grandfatherly figure who was omni-present for you from ages 10-18.

Then came George H.W. Bush, Republican President from 1989-1993, who led America through the Gulf War and patriotism, and rah-rah. You would have been about 19-23 at the time. If you don't remember 1991, it was ALL about American patriotism and right-wing values.

Of course, Bill Clinton followed from 1993-2001. He was a Democrat who was relentlessly attacked by the 1994 Republican revolution in Congress. He was called a draft-dodger, a murderer, his wife was demonized, and ultimately a cheater who got sucked off in the Oval Office by some girl in a blue dress. You would have been 23-31 at the time.

Then came George W. Bush. Republican President from 2001-2009. The man who led us through 9/11 and the "War on Terror." Patriotism. Rah Rah. You would have been 31-39 at the time, starting a family, buying a home, and wanting to keep them safe.

After that was 2008-2017, the rise of the Tea Party, the demonization of Obama, Fox News, and all the other bullshit that we now have today. You would have been 38-47 at that time, and RIPE for buying into Conservative bullshit as you approached middle age.

DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE the effect that the political landscape has had on GenX, over all these years.

They have been fed a steady stream of Republican propaganda, and it is now coming to fruition with their generation.

This is how they voted in the 2024 Election:

Group / % Voted for Trump / % Voted for Harris

All Men 45–64 years old / 59 / 39

All Women 45–64 years old / 50 / 49 (The Trump vote would have been much larger, if not for Black/Latino/Asian women who went for Harris)

White Men and Women 45–64 years old / 61 / 37

It's clear that in all races for the GenX age group, they voted overwhelmingly for Trump.

In the case of white GenXers, it was by a nearly 3 to 1 margin.

I'm telling you, it's because of years of indoctrination.

Now, Republicans are trying to do the same with GenZ.

“Generation” obsession and identification is the sign of a weak mind looking for simple answers to complex questions.

It’s a game for children and embarrassing for anyone participating.

[quote] Yes, blame everybody else.

Indeed. Very typical of a MAGA voter.

[quote] At least we got to experience the pre-smartphone, pre-internet lifestyle.

Yes, and don't forget about AIDS.

[quote] None of the people my age yearn to back to those days, your premise is false and very simplistic. 20 years from now we can blame the entire generation Z for Trump. Even if they didn't vote for him. That's how your logic works.

You cannot over-generalize. I am Gen X born in late 60s and my contemporaries were left-leaning when we were in college in the 80s. They rejected the small mindedness and bigotry of their parents' generation. They voted for Dukakis and then for Clinton. There was a promise of prosperity for all. Then came the disenchantment of the Bush years -- 9/11 and the financial crisis. Then Obama triggered their genetically encoded Fear of a Black Planet.

Many of those same X-er classmates and friends who I loved because they were laidback, cool and welcoming in the 80s are now embittered, underachieving Trumptards.

R30I hope I'll be ok. I could probably retire now at 58 just not at the level I want, so I keep busy with some consulting. I've invested consistently, received an inheritance and real estate has been good to me. Husband hitting his stride in his career. Grateful for sure. It's been a shaky 4 years with deaths in the family and close friends, Covid, and getting older, to be honest. But we're powering through.

With ketamine and Gin&Juice controlling our nuclear arsenal, we may not have to worry too much about careers, finances.

Many late Boomers (eg, born 1962-64) also attained adolescence in the 1970s, entered the professional world and began encountering changing technologies during the 1980s through 2010s, and have become proficient as the first of their particular generation with utilizing social media access and becoming adept with latest technologies. They will definitely NOT (and haven’t) become their parental generation’s aging parents career or communication goals.

Gen X showed their ass these past few elections.

They were better off being ignored.

Have fun NOT collecting the Social Security and other entitlements you've paid into your whole lives.

MORONS.

R34 Needs a class on the difference between causation and correlation. Your 8 paragraph long tin foil theory about how anyone born in that era is going to be a Trumptad is ludicrous and simplistic at the same time. You realize roughly half the country did not vote for and was not influenced by the Republicans in power back then right? By your theory, anyone born after the year 2,000 would have experienced 8 years of Bush and going on 8 more years of Trump.

By your simple theory everyone born in 2,000 will most defiantly be solid hard core life long Trumpeters for the rest of their lives. By the time they are 28 the will have lived in a world with 16 years of Republican ideology. More than half their lives. Not to mention Republican wars like Afghanistan and Iraq. And unlike the 70's, total saturation of politics on a daily basis pushed into your hands through smartphone and social media whether you want it or not.

Gen Z might as well be called Gen Trump.

Trump won both White Women and White Men under the age of 26.

"the most conservation generation in 50 to 60 years!

Gen Z Did this

Vote Republican, win stupid prizes.

Based on what I’m hearing from high school and college friends (born 1966-1968, age late 50s)… several of us are hit hard with one or more of the following:

- Caring for longer-lived elderly parents, many of whom failed to save for their own needs

- Struggling to afford massive college expenses for their 18 to 21 year olds

- Parenting 20somethings who are failing to take off life-wise and still need or expect parental $$ / housing

- AND sudden job loss catastrophes, with ageism and money-crisis woes making it extremely difficult to find a new job that pays anywhere near as well as the lost job did

It’s become a hard situation for several of my peers. I’m from suburban Boston so we’re talking probably 65% to 70% Harris voters, though the national numbers don’t lie.

This thread must have been like what it was like on the titanic after the last life boat left and there were no more to be had.

Stupid bitches standing on the deck of the ship arguing which class of passenger now had it worst.

Look at the approval ratings for Trump from the 50-64 year olds on this map.

Yes, R37, I was there.

I am sympathetic to job loss fears and it’s likely that AI will make things worse in the medium term even if there is a rising tide impact longer term. But attributing people’s financial concerns to the NASDAQ being down 17% after it was up almost 30% in 2024 or Apple being down even more this year, but still double what is was five years ago is stupid. If you are 50 you shouldn’t have 100% of your savings in QQQ and, even if you do, if you’ve held that for five years, you are golden.

Agree with everything R48 says, but those parents who are in the unsweet spot of not being rich but have some assets and income and don’t get much financial aid should just say “no” to paying over a quarter million per child for a mediocre 4-year degree Nobody has to go to a four year university full time immediately after high school. There are a trivial number of kids who transition directly from HS into college and Goldman Sachs-type internships followed by permanent employment. And most of those started out with connections.

As far as bitches complaining about the school loans that are now in the $100,000s I have one word

Community College

OK maybe two words if the Ivy League folks here insist. Also if you wanted you could have had a free college education but that might have taken some effort on their part.

They could have also gotten a great way to buy a house or condo but that’s a moot point as well because that would have taken some effort as well.

I agree with you both, R52 and R53. It seems insane to me, the way some of these aging parents are completely destroying their own financial safety (current and future) in order to give their children the $$$$ college education that these families seem to believe “is how it must be.”

The airplane cliche about putting on your own oxygen mask first, seems to be relevant here.

The people I know with massive college loans are not the elderly parents it’s the 30 and 40 year olds. But for many the time and debt is worth it as far as a career. For many it’s not.

Get into a trade training program thru a union at a major company , they do recruit they do look for workers, a construction company would be perfect. . Get paid a decent wage , have no debt, in four-five years if you were graduating training today at plumbing, pipe fitter, etc and stay with that company or go to similar, you are making ball park over $100,000 a year to start

Of course if you are willing to serve your country you can have your eduction paid for .

I voted for Biden but his throwing money at those who ran up debt and refused to do it cheaper was totally an attempt to buy votes. It was a terrible idea.

Reduce the cost of eduction for all not just a few

Time is a flat circle and now is the winter of our discontent

Aka whatever

[quote]They could have also gotten a great way to buy a house or condo but that’s a moot point as well because that would have taken some effort as well.

Housing is fucking insane. There is no way a lot of people can afford to buy or even rent.

I’m baking four strips of “thick cut” bacon on low for the grease. I should boil eggs and make a salad with the crispy remains.

The temptation is to make a huge tub of lettuce, carrot, cucumber, and tomato that “I Will Eat For Three Days”, but I get sick of that shit by the second serving and I end up composting a tub of goo when I clean the fridge.

R58 is that the Gen X retirement diet?

R57 for many in the country but hardly for all.

You can get a lower interest no down payment house loan. And since you will also have your future college or professional training paid for by the govt people and will not be swamped with debt and you can actually get into a home or condo. It takes work

But the draw back is that the slug would have to leave living at home with mom and dad and their job as waitstaff as Bob's House of Beef and Tacos and do something serving their country.

And right there is where the conversation will stop for most Americans and it’s back to moms basement and the night shift at Bobs,

r60 you know nothing.

[quote]You can get a lower interest no down payment house loan. And since you will also have your future college or professional training paid for by the govt

Bless your heart

R61 I did it I know others that did it just last year and many others around the country will be doing it today. Not you of course.

Yep my first home was a lower % interest rate than normal and no down payment needed. You could have done so as well. But you decided not to.

r63 you have no concept of reality for many people.

[quote]Yep my first home was a lower % interest rate than normal and no down payment needed.

Was that recently?

[quote]You could have done so as well. But you decided not to.

I've never been financially bereft, I've always had money. But I have a lot of empathy for those who didn't have the advantages I've had. It's terrible for many younger people these days with stagnant salaries and the cost of living.

R64 last year 2024 I gave some advice to young people I know that were trying to buy their first home. They got a lower rate than available to others and they needed no down payment. It was a small starter home. They could make a down payment but they were not required to. Many many Americans have gotten into their first house or condo.exactly and only because of this.

As well as pay for years of college or professional training.

It’s not easy it takes actual work and effort that most Americans refuse to do but for those that want there is a way. Most Americans clearly do not want nearly enough.

And besides taking work and effort for this housing and education assistance it takes serving their country for a few years. And let’s face it for most Americans today that is a non starter.

Housing prices are insane, many young people can't afford to do it. And they work full time.

An affordability crisis is making some young Americans give up on ever owning a home

Unless you’re rich why go into debt to major in something like gender studies. An acquaintance sent his daughter to NYU to study acting. By the time she graduated she’s lost interest in the profession. So maybe 400K down the drain and now what does she do? But at least the family had the money.

And yet some American kids …….

It takes a smart kid and one that has inner toughness but 1000s of kids every year to start a free college education, receive a salary, have full health care paid for, play sports, learn shit and have paid for summer trips to interesting places.

Then a large almost no interest loan for must be $30,000-$40,000 at least today at graduation then 5 years of well paid work . . Then grad school paid for and housing help later.

Companies will be lined up around the block to hire them with good $$$ jobs when they are ready for civilian work

Or the smart kid could also go to NYU or Yale and study acting and become famous..

Torta, I also read a report yesterday that the job growth in Massachusetts is abysmal. (I live in the NH seacoast) and have only been able to live here thanks to Massachusetts employing me.

45 and concerned for my own job at this point. I am likely headed to North Carolina as the cost of living up here is just not worth the benefits/better political leaning.

I have been putting off a move for a long time, but I am thinking the Carolinas will be destroyed by implants with 5 years so I better get ahead of them

In addition to what R10 said, as a Gen X, I saw how Gen Xers around me were when they became parents. It’s like they were determined to do everything differently than their own parents. They brought out the helicopter and the bubble wrap. God forbid their 12 year-old kid should ever be home alone. And then the beginning of rampant consumerism, making sure their kids had everything they never did. They just became so wrapped up in their kids to the point that they abandoned traditions their parents had like visiting and socializing with other couples. I have a coworker whose kids are so dependent on her for making any life decisions and they’re 27 and 29 years old. And that just seems like the norm now.

Socializing with other couples :-) And you think this is what kids want to do with their parents?

I m not talking about the kids from season 4 of the wire. But the kids I know are busy all week, homework, soccer practice, and lax training or similar. These kids are busy busy busy. Of course parents are needed for $$$ and driving. No helicopters involved.

Most of these kids are so busy most never have time to get into trouble. Then they go to college where they will go free or with significant help from that college.

These kids have very very involved parents at home and these kids will more likely than not run rings around their peers as far as life success.

R60 is the dumbest fucking brain dead CUNT in the entire world!!!!

Why not see that under Biden it was shitty too? Both partys have failed you.and so many others too; why else would people vote differently; they were un dire straits. So, lets sit tight; the only way is up, ok.

The only way is up??? Are you stupid?

People are delusional, it can get a lot worse. And it can last for decades. People have been spoiled. They re soft they expect good times to last peace to,last, excess to last, and they are not prepared if things turn to shit,

Tough people last tough times….despite what you might have heard —-tough times can last as well. The smart , the prepared and the tough always do better than the not so smart the not so tough and the unprepared.

Some are going to be so fucked

R26 and your anecdotal evidence certainly eliminates the hard stats.

I'm not so sure why DL's Gen Xers are so adamant about excusing the awfulness of some of their peers. Posters here tend to be gay and somewhat liberal and not representative of the straight white majority who gleefully went for Trump. Those MAGA Xers don't post here but they are crawling all over sites like Facebook, NextDoor, Truth Social. They're the ones who called you fags, pushed you into lockers and listened to hair metal. Think about that the next time you defend their behavior and voting patterns.

What concerns me is how many Gen Z men are conservative. They should know better. Lots of young men are being drawn to Republicanism.

R79 partly it’s because the Dems are seen as soft weak feminine easily triggered cunts. True or not that’s the way the gop sees things that is how many dems see it as well. Ok that is how much of the country sees it.

[quote]partly it’s because the Dems are seen as soft weak feminine easily triggered cunts

Look no further than the prisspots of DL! 😂😂

Ironically I believe the conservativism of Gen Z males stems from the coddling of Gen X. These guys would not have time or resources to sit around playing video games and getting redpilled if mommy kicked them out of the basement.

Many Gen Zers would like to leave their parents' homes but they can't afford it.

Extended families live together all over the world. Inc in America. Many GenZ like all others have not made good decisions many have. . Always in life those who make good decisions, as a group at least, do better in life that the poor dolts in life that make poor decisions.

As those of us on DL today ponder our current station in life, and wonder why things happened , it’s good to remember these words of wisdom,

[quote]Many GenZ like all others have not made good decisions many have.

Even the ones who have made good decisions can't have their own place to live because the cost of living and cost of housing is obnoxious.

R85 what world did you think you were living in where 12-28 year olds would own lots of their own homes? It sure as shit was not that way for other generations,

r86 I'm talking about adults in their 20s. Many previous generations were home owners in their 20s or could at least afford to rent an apartment. Not so much now.

Such a pretty story we were told. Just follow the rules. You can't afford the good life or basic needs? Team D. or Team R. you're not getting shit. The world is owned by somebody else and they are willing to shoot you to keep it. Get to work and be happy.

Most of us who hit the lousy job market as adults coming of age in the 1990s or 2000s also could not afford to rent our own places, we had roommates, usually more than one. The antisocialism of Gen Z is also a factor in why they don’t do this.

R87

Ok adults under the age of what 27 years old. And in your America these 20-27 yo should be able to move out and have their own apt?

In my day we got our first home only because I had earned assistance from the VA. I also paid for my eduction that way. Tell me agin why I should be sorry someone 21 who still is living at home with mom?

My dad grew up during the depression. You are talking about pissant problems as far as 22 year olds today.

Your dad grew up during the depression R90? What was life like when kerosene hadn't been invented?

R87 Gen Z could always rent a room in an apartment with multiple roommates. You know, like other generations of people did before them.

But no, that wouldn't allow for their pampered lifestyle of Uber Eats and video gaming. And like R89 said, they are Generation Antisocial.

R92 yep

I have no idea where this fiction came from that all 23 yo should be able to buy a home or have their own solo apt. That’s nuts. This is hardly a new issue for very young people who might have just started or not even started their professional career. It was that way in 1962.

People who make good life decisions do a lot better than those that don’t . That’s the lesson for the day.

As usual the elders are talking about how they had no trouble moving out and living in their own in 1975 and why can’t these kids today do the same.

First of all, the cost of housing has exploded. Then you have a two bedroom apartment being unaffordable for two people and many landlords won’t allow several people in an apartment with only two bedrooms.

The poster who said just join the military to solve all your problems is one of the dumbest cunts here and that’s saying a lot.

Then of course you have astronomical student loans to pay back. You can’t even get an admin job at any reputable company these days without a degree.

Unlike some of you out of touch fossils I actually know people in their 20s and I feel terrible for them. Hyper capitalism and Glibalization have fucked them over royally.

Sorry for the spelling errors, I was typing fast on my phone

R94 you don’t have those student loans to pay back if you are willing to serve your country for a few years. You also have lower interest no down payment home loans available. At one time I could avoid paying property insurance on my house..

They could serve their country they choose not too. Who exactly should be sorry for these 23 year olds with massive school debt who would not serve or go to a community college and with no savings? It’s a sink or swim world.

You notice I called you no names.

Aren't most 20 something year olds renting rooms anyway? I don't see evidence that they aren't, just evidence that it will never end.

It used to be you roomed with people in your early 20s then moved on to solo living when you've established yourself financially.

Now it's impossible, it seems.

Give it a few years when the AI layoffs really gain force

As has been explained even renting with roommates is out of reach with the ridiculous rents, and many landlords won’t allow multiple roommates. Then there’s the student loan issue

[quote]Ironically I believe the conservativism of Gen Z males stems from the coddling of Gen X. These guys would not have time or resources to sit around playing video games and getting redpilled if mommy kicked them out of the basement

The guiding principle of current " conservatism" is that nothing is your fault and government will fix it for you.

R100 you’re right, although I do wonder how they conclude that logically but also think shrinking government will accomplish that

They assume all the government spending that will be cut is spent on lazy bureaucrats and the undeserving poor. But not much is spent on those things, relatively speaking. That's why DOGE has struggled to get yo even 50 billion in cuts.

Gen X needs to be separated out from Generation Jones (oldest Xers bordering Boomers) and Xennials (youngest Xers bordering Millennials). These sub-gens have their own unique characteristics and qualities.

R102 Washington DC grave yards are full of the remains of previous admins that have come to town over the decades with the mission to fix repair improve and shrink govt, and save lots of money,

Then reality sets in. My wonder is if reality takes with this crew. If they ignore reality who knows what they might achieve,

Much of what the govt does is actually important.

I know plenty of Gen Xers doing well. It's not like the entire generation is cratering as they approach old age.

Oh look another Gen X thread by the Anti-Gen X Troll. 🙄

The generations keep getting weaker softer and richer with more excess.

Shit. I know Americans personally that worked 6 days a week and were paid $30 a month. They could keep $5 the rest went to support their families. The best part though was, other than a salary they were extremely grateful for, was the 3 good meals a day. All Adults and they could not afford their own apt or home either,

I wonder why weak ass cunts ever thought the world was going to be fair, great or easy and their lives would be fine and then are shocked when things turn even a little gray.

If things do turn bad many are just not going to survive. Not nearly tough enough far to sensitive not prepared enough. But if good times remain most will do well. Most.

[quote] Gen X was supposed to be peaking

They're what we call, a "peak too sooner."

Even the 65+ voters on the map at R50 voted less Trumpy. Is this the first time that has ever happened before?

So DL’s answer to the housing crisis is “suck it up and join the Marines, you baby”?

I don’t think JayDine speaks for DL.

R110 good heavens no. That was only for the youngens that want a house or an education and want to serve their country instead of refusing to serve their country, they want a paid for college or professional education and want a big head start with buying a home , that many claim they can’t do, with lower interests rates and no down payment required.

The rest of these youngsters falling behind in life should wait for their parents or Trump or the next admin to fix their problems, And I strongly suggest the air force. Better food more civilized much less chance of getting shot at.

I love that joining the military is the answer to everything. And nowhere in my area can you buy a house or apartment with no fucking down payment.

R113 it’s called a VA loan that one can use for a a no down payment lower interest rate home loan.. .Guaranteed by the federal govt. It’s not a loan you or the people you know would be able to get.

While I respect the good things the military has done (and there are some) this is absolutely not the time or the administration under which anyone should join the military

[quote][R113] it’s called a VA loan that one can use for a a no down payment lower interest rate home loan.. .Guaranteed by the federal govt. It’s not a loan you or the people you know would be able to get.

God bless you. The people I know would have no use for one of these loans.

[quote]Many Gen Zers would like to leave their parents' homes but they can't afford it.

What a dipshit answer. You think most kids who turned 18 when they were Gen X had it made? You have been listening to too many Boomer stories about how they got a part time job, paid for college themselves and had a one bedroom apartment in a decent neighborhood.

The truth is most people who want to get out on their own at 18 do so living on a shoe string, shitty apartment, in a sketch neighborhood, maybe even a roommate in the same room, and drive a 20 year old beat up car. It's just that now Gen Z and even Millennials except a charmed life when they move out and if it's not, they are staying with mommy and daddy until they do.

R116 no doubt at all in my mind friend that you and your friends would not qualify. . This was a suggestion for younger people who are crying constantly it seems that they can’t afford a home of their own, And have all those school loans for their fine arts degree as well.

The rich the well off and those that will spend their days living with mom they don’t need these loans.

[quote] The rest of these youngsters falling behind in life should wait for their parents or Trump or the next admin to fix their problems

You can be certain anyone who uses the term “youngster” is at least 110.

How many military personnel does the serve your country troll think we need? If every “youngster” who needed a house enlisted, we’d probably triple the military.

R120 not a problem today friend our military can’t meet its recruiting goals and has not for years. . Americans are not into service to others or their country all that much. Takers more than those who serve,

I think we need a Foreign Legion like the French have. Find people that love America :-)

Is it actually true, friend , that the military is not currently meeting its recruiting goals?

And when it did fall short a couple years ago, by how many millions was it short, friend?

Thanks in advance, friend!

If everyone would become a doctor, everyone could afford a house. But some people just don’t value saving lives.

[quote] it’s called a VA loan that one can use for a a no down payment lower interest rate home loan.. .Guaranteed

I don’t live in Virginia.

Getting on a thread about Gen X on a gay website and posting over and over about how people should have just achieved financial success by joining the military without ever acknowledging that we were banned from joining the military seems a little tone deaf, no?

Also, while the military can be a stepping stone to financial well-being it can also be stepping stone to an IED explosion with a paralyzing spinal cord injury that leaves you incontinent and addicted to opiates.

But whatever

And if you were a Gen Z enlistee you might have been forced to fight in one of the most unjustified wars the US ever fought.

R127 which war is that?

Was a typo. Gen X.

R125 the thread may have started about GenX but it is also about kids today. GenX it’s far too late to help them. Ancient history. I m sure not suggesting they could enlist.

And please there were gay men who have headed up one or more of our military services. They found a way to serve despite being gay.

Genz what those young people can do right fucking now today to get a paid for college eduction , learn a trade, and help getting into that new house. They won’t but they could.

Or they can stay home with mom and whine.

Risk? Yes serving your country can be dangerous for some but so can eating ass and being the bottom in a fisting gang bang. Life does come with some risk.

Crossing the street and vaginal intercourse are dangerous! Why not enlist!

R130 is truly blessing us with his brilliance today.

R131 it was a response to an elderly lesbian above that argued against serving your country because of potential risk. As you and I have both pointed out life is full of risk.

Yes. And the world is also full of irony.

It is good to heed the wisdom of an elderly lesbian.

Here’s an actual study of the impact of enrollment. The racial differences in outcomes are interesting.

(And who said anything about being against serving one’s country. If I weren’t an out lesbian in high school who probably would have flunked the physical, i certainly would have served. I scored very highly on the ASVAB, especially on the engineering section and I it would have been an honor to serve.)

I’m Gen X, born in 1970, and I have never voted Republican in my life. I feel more of a kinship with Millennials than with my own generation. I have a few disabilities which have severely gotten in my way in life, but I have an adequate income and a duplex that will be paid off by the time I’m 60. I’m hoping to retire by age 65 to 66. I have always lived pretty simply so I am hoping I’ll be okay. I might continue to work part time after I retire just to have structure as I tend to get depressed with too much time on my hands. My own small tutoring business would be ideal.

Life is hard, you should just take the risk and let multiple people fist your ass. Incredible thread.

49 years old. Started a second career after 25+ years at the first. I was laid off in April due to federal cuts.

I’m incredibly bitter about former classmates and coworkers who voted for that man.

I hope they eventually reap what they sowed.

Join the military. I haven’t been so disappointed since Fredric Jameson suggested national service as the only thing that could bring the citizenry together.

Even shithole apartments in the ghetto are expensive now. Fucking Bed Stuy is going for $4000 a month. Bed Stuy!