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Eldergays: I want to watch the Kristie Alley seasons of Cheers

But I specifically want to skip those first few seasons before her arrival. Will I still truly get the heart of the show and appreciate the characters if I do. Kindly seeking your expertise and fine taste.

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by Anonymousreply 40May 6, 2025 10:16 PM

By the time Kristie Alley joined the show, Cheers was just a coke and booze party where they also happened to film a sitcom. The only actor who gave a shit about putting on a quality performance was driven out by then.

Going to a real life coke and booze party would be much more entertaining.

by Anonymousreply 1May 6, 2025 2:47 AM

Go for it, OP! No fucking clue why you would skip the first 5 seasons of a TV show you intend to watch, but you started a thread on DL so here's a reply for you. Enjoy. You... sound like you enjoy this kind of attention.

by Anonymousreply 2May 6, 2025 3:02 AM

You are a crazy person OP

by Anonymousreply 3May 6, 2025 3:08 AM

R2 Wow so I know I’m a bit neurotic but I’ve seen so many of the episodes from seasons 1 -5 throughout the years just not all of them. However I’ve never seen a single episode of Kristie Alley, not even the one where allegedly went down on everyone behind the scenes.

by Anonymousreply 4May 6, 2025 3:12 AM

Tell us more, R1!

by Anonymousreply 5May 6, 2025 3:26 AM

She was really gorgeous and funny it’s too bad she became a pig

by Anonymousreply 6May 6, 2025 3:36 AM

I was molested in the Acorn St. alley in Boston.

by Anonymousreply 7May 6, 2025 3:38 AM

Whenever I rewatch CHEERS, I appreciate Shelley Long more and more. Nicholas Colasanto was the heart of the show, though, IMO. He was a beautiful actor.

Enjoy the seasons you choose to watch, OP.

by Anonymousreply 8May 6, 2025 3:41 AM

I don't think it was better or worse before or after Kristie. It was just a completely different show. When Diane left all the adult sophistication went with her. That's not saying I don't like the Kristie years. At least, in hindsight, the rest of the cast has been kind to Long. Admitting that it never would have been the show it was without her it was almost always up to her to keep the cast on track and the production moving.

by Anonymousreply 9May 6, 2025 3:44 AM

What was the deal with Shelly Long again? Why was she out of the show?

by Anonymousreply 10May 6, 2025 4:03 AM

she got sick of doing it mostly because of having to deal with the rest of the cast who hated her for being professional.

by Anonymousreply 11May 6, 2025 4:06 AM

It was still an excellent show with Alley, who was surprisingly good, even though Rebecca could never be the foil to the other characters that Diane was. The highlight of the Alley years was the introduction of Lilith, setting the stage for “Frasier”.

by Anonymousreply 12May 6, 2025 7:29 AM

It’s “Kirstie”, FFS.

by Anonymousreply 13May 6, 2025 7:34 AM

I’ve been watching the reruns lately on Catchy Comedy or Antenna TV or one of the other old people rerun channels. They’re in the Kirstie Alley seasons now and there are some very funny episodes - one tonight featured Joanna Barnes, the nasty fiancé from the original Parent Trap. She and Kirstie had a very funny exchange.

Alley wasn’t afraid of looking bad or getting physical if it made the comedy funnier. The Long seasons are great but I really like the sillier Alley years as well, at least the first few. The show went on too long and the last 2-3 seasons everyone was kind of phoning it in. I’d say watch up until Bebe Neuwirth is no longer a regular or when Sam and Rebecca try to have a baby, whichever happens first.

by Anonymousreply 14May 6, 2025 8:11 AM

"KRISTIE??!?"

by Anonymousreply 15May 6, 2025 2:41 PM

THE JACKASS WOULD KNOW

by Anonymousreply 16May 6, 2025 2:58 PM

I loved the Diane years and once she left, it took me a while to get back into it. The first five seasons had some excellent writing and would get dramatic when necessary. The final six seasons were more cartoonish. That wasn’t Alley’s fault so much as the new writing and producing teams.

A lot of the final season fell flat. And I never understood why they had the bar burn down only to build it back exactly as it was. I didn’t expect them to do “Over Our Heads” or anything but it was just a story that went nowhere.

by Anonymousreply 17May 6, 2025 3:01 PM

Eldergays: I want to have a turkey breast sandwich. But I specifically want to put the mayo, salt and pepper on the outside of the bread — you know, where you hold the sandwich. Will I still truly enjoy the flavor of the sandwich if I do. Kindly seeking your expertise and fine taste.

by Anonymousreply 18May 6, 2025 3:05 PM

What is "Over our Heads?"

by Anonymousreply 19May 6, 2025 3:06 PM

Kirstie was great and it flipped the dom/sub dynamic in an interesting way. Bebe’s character also flourished with Shelley gone.

by Anonymousreply 20May 6, 2025 3:06 PM

R19, on “The Facts of Life”, a character owned a gourmet food shop for a couple of seasons and it burned down at the beginning of the seventh season. Rather than rebuild it, they all went into business together and opened a tacky, totally 80s Spencer Gifts-style boutique called “Over Our Heads”.

by Anonymousreply 21May 6, 2025 3:11 PM

They should have burned all of Boston down.

by Anonymousreply 22May 6, 2025 4:02 PM

OP, if you have Hulu you can choose the seasons and episodes of Cheers you want to watch.

by Anonymousreply 23May 6, 2025 4:17 PM

R18 = rabid cunt. Nothing more, nothing less.

by Anonymousreply 24May 6, 2025 4:22 PM

R23 I know.

by Anonymousreply 25May 6, 2025 4:23 PM

I watched Cheers every week through its original run. Now, I occasionally catch a rerun and find myself wondering why I liked it so much.

by Anonymousreply 26May 6, 2025 5:08 PM

Hello. Welcome to Cheers. My name is Diane. I will be serving you. Why don't you sit down right over here. You know, I should tell you, parenthetically, that you are the first people that I have ever served. In fact, if anyone had told me a week ago that I would be doing this, I would have thought them insane. When Sam over there offered me the job, I laughed in his face. But then it occurred to me, here I am, I'm a student — not just in an academic sense, but a student of life. And where better than here to study life in all its many facets. People meet in bars, they part, they rejoice, they suffer, they come here to be with their own kind. What can I get you?

by Anonymousreply 27May 6, 2025 5:21 PM

I think the first episode I ever saw was the episode where Andy Andy tries to kill Diane as she plays Desdemona.

by Anonymousreply 28May 6, 2025 5:35 PM

[Quote] [R18] = rabid cunt. Nothing more, nothing less.

Eldergays, I want to watch Petticoat Junction from season 2 onward but sitting in a kiddie pool filled with green jello. Will I still truly enjoy the Petticoat Junction experience if I do. Kindly seeking your expertise and fine taste.

by Anonymousreply 29May 6, 2025 6:27 PM

No, R29. You need to watch only the episodes after Bea Benadaret died and was replaced with June Lockhart.

by Anonymousreply 30May 6, 2025 7:15 PM

[quote]Eldergays: I want to watch the Kristie Alley seasons of Cheers

I smell rotten clams in this thread.

by Anonymousreply 31May 6, 2025 7:34 PM

Kirstie actually was pretty good. The show started to take a different trajectory without Dianne. The quality of the writing was sporadic, normally good, with some occasionally really good episodes, but at times also pretty week as well. I own all 11 seasons on DVD, and every 3-4 years I start watching the entire series in order.

by Anonymousreply 32May 6, 2025 7:45 PM

I didn’t like how the Frasier-Lilith breakup was done in the final season. The ads leading up to it made it seem like it would be a dramatic event. The episode though made it a bunch of cheap laughs. Ha ha, it’s funny Rebecca knows and can’t tell anyone. The audience laughed when Frasier called her a slut which wasn’t that humorous. It was clumsy.

by Anonymousreply 33May 6, 2025 9:02 PM

The first season with Kirstie isn't very good---her obsession with her boss was annoying an inorganic to the show. It gets better after that. The Sam-Diane hate-romance went on a season or so too long, but the by skipping the Diane years, you miss the earliest and best episodes of the show.

by Anonymousreply 34May 6, 2025 9:11 PM

On behalf of all the intelligent women in America, may I just say: whew.

by Anonymousreply 35May 6, 2025 9:30 PM

If you saw the final episode of Cheers, being broadcast from the Cheers set , it was obviously a male booze fest beyond what the Cheers show dynamic indicated.

by Anonymousreply 36May 6, 2025 9:34 PM

I loved the episode when they found out Diane was good at bowling.

by Anonymousreply 37May 6, 2025 9:35 PM

I'll always remember Kristie for my favorite line delivery of the show:

"I have to make him fall in love with me before he figures out how messed up I am!"

For me, this is equivalent to "In what Blanche? Dog years?"

Substitute messed for fucked and you are good to go.

by Anonymousreply 38May 6, 2025 9:43 PM

So true about the atmosphere on that set. It was like a frat house, Shelley Long was only trying to be professional and they didn't like it.

by Anonymousreply 39May 6, 2025 10:08 PM

Every single post you make is always stupid, OP. As r2 stated, you seem desperate for attention.

by Anonymousreply 40May 6, 2025 10:16 PM
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