[QUOTE]Inescapable due to strong ocean currents and cold Pacific waters surrounding it, Alcatraz was called “The Rock” and housed notorious criminals like Al Capone and Machine Gun Kelly before closing in 1963.
And he's asked Burt Lancaster to be at the reopening.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | May 5, 2025 1:07 AM |
Not demented at all
by Anonymous | reply 2 | May 5, 2025 1:08 AM |
But I thought Clint Eastwood escaped from it?!!!
by Anonymous | reply 3 | May 5, 2025 1:09 AM |
Why? And ... as if. 🤣
by Anonymous | reply 4 | May 5, 2025 1:09 AM |
He will be the first inmate.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | May 5, 2025 1:10 AM |
But... but... what about the cool tours?
It's one of the best national park tours you can take!!!
by Anonymous | reply 6 | May 5, 2025 1:11 AM |
Alcatraz is the second or third most visited tourist attraction in San Francisco. This is either a fuck you to liberal San Francisco, or he doesn’t realize that it’s basically in ruins and not in any shape to accept prisoners
I’m sure he will demand that Ellis Island gets reopened next….and demand that the Golden Gare Bridge and Statue of Liberty are both painted gold, with the letters “T R U M P” be placed on top both in lights.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | May 5, 2025 1:17 AM |
What a cockamamie idea, but it's par for the course
by Anonymous | reply 8 | May 5, 2025 1:24 AM |
All of his felonies? He should be thrown in those waters around Alcatraz with water wings and a bucket of chum
by Anonymous | reply 9 | May 5, 2025 1:31 AM |
Trump is not exactly the King of Follow Through.
This won’t be happening.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | May 5, 2025 1:33 AM |
National Park Service owns and operates Alcatraz.
Bureau of Prisons does not have anything to do with it anymore.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | May 5, 2025 1:42 AM |
BRILLIANT!
by Anonymous | reply 12 | May 5, 2025 1:45 AM |
[QUOTE] What a cockamamie idea, but it's par for the course
😂 As soon as I heard it, I said to myself “That’s so Trump.”
by Anonymous | reply 13 | May 5, 2025 1:48 AM |
This guy just says anything that comes out of his ass. It’s not a functional building. The American Indian Movement people found that out when they occupied it and that was decades ago.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | May 5, 2025 1:50 AM |
Shitler is up all night, every night, tweeting and hatching his harebrained schemes; he appears to never sleep.
May his insomnia be terminal.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | May 5, 2025 1:56 AM |
Is this a distraction from his dumb pope picture?
by Anonymous | reply 16 | May 5, 2025 2:00 AM |
Let’s invite him to the ribbon cutting ceremony, then abandon him there.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | May 5, 2025 2:08 AM |
Good. Hope he enjoys being there after his sentencing.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | May 5, 2025 2:08 AM |
That’s why it’s not as far fetched as some would think, R19. The question is how long will it take to get it ready,
by Anonymous | reply 20 | May 5, 2025 2:22 AM |
[QUOTE]This is either a fuck you to liberal San Francisco
No. It's federally owned by National Parks as noted above. The only thing that would happen with a closure to refurbish is a loss of revenue to the Feds when tours cease. Another foot bullet/own goal. Cockamamie.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | May 5, 2025 2:26 AM |
The next Dem president should imprison Trump and co. there
by Anonymous | reply 22 | May 5, 2025 2:27 AM |
Imprison Trump and co. in the atrium at the former Trump Tower.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | May 5, 2025 2:38 AM |
Can't he send felons to Greenland? I thought he was getting that. That whole idea just kind of disappeared
by Anonymous | reply 24 | May 5, 2025 2:43 AM |
Perhaps it's going to be the USA's CECOT style prison? Will take years to get it ready for its convicts.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | May 5, 2025 2:51 AM |
the way this admin functions they'll just turn the lights on and call it a day. Could be filled with "gang members from the asylums" next week.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | May 5, 2025 2:53 AM |
Make no mistake, Trump is SERIOUSLY disturbed. We the people need to oust him before it's too late.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | May 5, 2025 3:04 AM |
It would make a great clothing optional mens resort!
by Anonymous | reply 28 | May 5, 2025 3:31 AM |
Is anyone else truly disturbed at how cruel he has become? It is one thing if he kept coming up with wacky ideas - “I call it FLUBBER!!!” …. But he is down right mean since he has been back - like he would have his staff round up puppies and drown them. …… That potentially the country’s senior citizens won’t be able to get a flu shot next year because they are dragging their dicks to put one together. Can you imagine how disastrously sick and dying people will be by winter?
by Anonymous | reply 29 | May 5, 2025 3:52 AM |
As a condo development?
by Anonymous | reply 30 | May 5, 2025 3:53 AM |
Nothing he’s done has been unexpected, R29. We were warned about his plans and many called it hyperbole.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | May 5, 2025 4:18 AM |
I wish someone had a....solution for our Trump problem. I really do.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | May 5, 2025 4:22 AM |
This is one of his dumbest ideas yet. He must think these this shit up when he’s sitting on the toilet.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | May 5, 2025 5:50 AM |
i say good luck, trumpy old fellow. california would secede before this happens.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | May 5, 2025 9:05 AM |
R7 "...Statue of Liberty are both painted gold, with the letters “T R U M P” be placed on top both in lights."
He'll definitely need to do something about that Emma Lazarus poem.
"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door."
by Anonymous | reply 35 | May 5, 2025 10:49 AM |
R29 “Become”? He’s always been this way. Nothing has changed, people have just forgotten.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | May 5, 2025 11:17 AM |
Nancy Pelosi on X:
"Alcatraz closed as a federal penitentiary more than sixty years ago. It is now a very popular national park and major tourist attraction. The President’s proposal is not a serious one."
by Anonymous | reply 37 | May 5, 2025 11:27 AM |
Personally I think it’s morbid that so many tourists even want to see it but I guess the fact it’s the setting for a lot of books/movies is a factor.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | May 5, 2025 11:46 AM |
R38 posted while clutching pearls…
by Anonymous | reply 39 | May 5, 2025 12:11 PM |
[quote]Imprison Trump and co. in the atrium at the former Trump Tower
Or on that fucking escalator.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | May 5, 2025 12:17 PM |
Once Trump is out of office, Tish James should just have him renditioned and sent to a death camp in Rwanda and we’ll all just go, “No time for due process!”
by Anonymous | reply 41 | May 5, 2025 12:28 PM |
I'll be your tour guide. My name is John Johnson but everyone here calls me Vicky.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | May 5, 2025 12:46 PM |
I thought it’s Indigenous land?
by Anonymous | reply 43 | May 5, 2025 12:53 PM |
Whatever he needs to distract from the first time ever that he pretended not to be an expert on the subject when he replied, "I don't know" when asked if it was his duty to obey the constitution.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | May 5, 2025 12:55 PM |
What's the reason?
by Anonymous | reply 45 | May 5, 2025 1:29 PM |
According to the Federal Registry: Average annual costs of incarcerating an individual (SINGLE person)...
Based on FY 2021 data, the average annual COIF for a Federal inmate housed in a Bureau or non-Bureau facility in FY 2021 was $43,836 ($120.10 per day). The average annual COIF for a Federal inmate housed in a Residential Reentry Center for FY 2021 was $37,012 ($101.40 per day). (Please note: There were 365 days in FY 2021.)
Based on FY 2022 data, the average annual COIF for a Federal inmate housed in a Bureau or non-Bureau facility in FY 2022 was $42,672 ($116.91 per day). The average annual COIF for a Federal inmate housed in a Residential Reentry Center for FY 2022 was $39,197 ($107.39 per day). (Please note: There were 365 days in FY 2022.)
by Anonymous | reply 46 | May 5, 2025 1:36 PM |
"The prison was closed in 1963 due to crumbling infrastructure and the high costs of repairing and supplying the island facility, because everything from fuel to food had to be brought by boat."
"The Bureau of Prisons currently has 16 penitentiaries performing the same high-security functions as Alcatraz, including its maximum security facility in Florence, Colorado, and the U.S. penitentiary in Terre Haute, Indiana, which is home to the federal death chamber."
by Anonymous | reply 47 | May 5, 2025 1:47 PM |
R7 please let’s hope he does not find out. Oh god yes reopen Alcatraz as a federal prison.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | May 5, 2025 1:49 PM |
I'm amusing myself imagining trump as the sole prisoner and the constant, foolish, inevitably thwarted rescue attempts by his cult that would ensue.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | May 5, 2025 1:54 PM |
A lovely American gulag to send detainees.
Starvation center.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | May 5, 2025 1:59 PM |
No he’s not. He’s just talking out his ass.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | May 5, 2025 2:14 PM |
This will never happen. Just one day's worth of news. He'll do something crazy again tomorrow.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | May 5, 2025 2:34 PM |
Posted this in a different thread, but THIS is the reason Dump has been especially idiotic. This is a distraction.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | May 5, 2025 2:38 PM |
Imagine the media pearl clutching and senility speculation if Joe Biden had said this. It would've fueled the news cycle for weeks. But with Dump, it's just another day.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | May 5, 2025 2:41 PM |
I don't think Trump is senile or demented. He actually has amazing energy for someone his age. Biden was another story. Trump has many horrible qualities but being demented isn't his problem.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | May 5, 2025 2:44 PM |
R55 Oh my sides times infinity! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
by Anonymous | reply 56 | May 5, 2025 2:57 PM |
I already had R55 on block. I only block Trump-tards.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | May 5, 2025 3:03 PM |
I have been there a couple of times and it is really a SF must to me. Apart from the reality of the buildings and their use , it is an interesting beautiful place with lots of flowers, landscaping and great views. Another stupid 2am Trump idea. Maybe he was watching an old movie or something. Hope he doesn't watch Hindenburg!
by Anonymous | reply 58 | May 5, 2025 3:16 PM |
First Iceland, then the Panama canal and now this nonsense.
Anybody at this point who still supports this clown is beyond reasoning with.
He's not Hitler, he's too stupid. He is a Mussolini/Gaddafi wannabe.
The same fate awaits.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | May 5, 2025 3:17 PM |
R55 No, he's just mentally ill.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | May 5, 2025 3:27 PM |
Something good came from Orange Julius’ demented idea. He had me watching one of my favorite action movies last night: The Rock. I started reading about Alcatraz after the news hit and felt compelled to watch it again. Still holds up nearly 30 years later.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | May 5, 2025 4:27 PM |
R29 - many people have noticed Trump not only lacks empathy, he is also flat out mean and nasty. People such as psychologist, psychiatrists, mental health experts, all the citizens on the USA with information literacy, all the people Trump has burned over the decades, meanly, spitefully, without remorse. Trump has malignant narcissism and now dementia and his meanness and destructive compulsions will increase. His republican congress condones this behaviour, as does half "his" Supreme Court.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | May 5, 2025 4:33 PM |
R55 and yet you are wrong. Trump has observable signs of dementia - in speech production, in logic, in behaviours. Yes, he can be incredibly energetic and has always had a shark's or fox's quick sense for the jugular. He is, of course, a speed freak. Legal meth. ADHD medicines. If not also cocaine. The two can exist. HE can be falling into dementia and be energetic.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | May 5, 2025 4:37 PM |
R55 must have missed it the other day when Trump was asked about Harvard and started talking about Harlem.
This kind of stuff has been going on for years.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | May 5, 2025 4:40 PM |
Maybe Alcatraz can be that ballroom he's been dreaming of.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | May 5, 2025 4:42 PM |
[quote] "The prison was closed in 1963 due to crumbling infrastructure and the high costs of repairing and supplying the island facility, because everything from fuel to food had to be brought by boat."
People were very short-sighted in the 1960s. A lot of historic buildings across the country were abandoned that could have been renovated and continued to be used, but government leaders wanted everything to be new and shiny with urban renewal. They used excuses like the ones mentioned above,
by Anonymous | reply 66 | May 5, 2025 4:45 PM |
This won't happen. It's just more flooding the zone with shit to distract from the major problems he's caused.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | May 5, 2025 4:48 PM |
R62 shocking. Do you think many others know? Maybe you should repeat that in another thread?
by Anonymous | reply 68 | May 5, 2025 4:51 PM |
Will he reopen the Eastern State Penitentiary in Philly?
by Anonymous | reply 69 | May 5, 2025 5:19 PM |
[quote] many people have noticed Trump not only lacks empathy, he is also flat out mean and nasty.
That is brand new information!
by Anonymous | reply 70 | May 5, 2025 5:20 PM |
Trump to reopen Fort Ticonderoga so that our proud military has a place to store their muskets and gunpowder to fight the British with! This is what he sounds like. Cuckoo for cocoa puffs
by Anonymous | reply 71 | May 5, 2025 5:29 PM |
[quote]First Iceland, then the Panama canal and now this nonsense.
GREENLAND, not Iceland.
Greenland has ice; Iceland is green.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | May 5, 2025 5:44 PM |
[quote]He is, of course, a speed freak. Legal meth. ADHD medicines. If not also cocaine. The two can exist.
Don Jr. can keep him supplied with all the coke he needs when the Aderall just isn't quite enough.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | May 5, 2025 5:45 PM |
Time to disinter Sean Connery and Michael Bay's career
Let's get this party started
by Anonymous | reply 74 | May 5, 2025 5:50 PM |
Trump comes up with some bullshit and all his advisers just agreez
by Anonymous | reply 75 | May 5, 2025 6:12 PM |
I hope he reopens all of those Revolutionary War airports.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | May 5, 2025 6:16 PM |
[QUOTE] Trump comes up with some bullshit and all his advisers just agreez
If they say no, they’re at risk of being executed.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | May 5, 2025 6:29 PM |
[quote]If they say no, they’re at risk of being executed.
They risk being deported to CECOT in El Salvador, at least until Alcatraz is ready.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | May 5, 2025 6:40 PM |
It is like people have forgotten all about Trump wanting to turn Gaza into the Rivera of the Middle East. Or his claim that he could built a big beautiful wall and make Mexico pay for it he was a builder and it would be easy, or his claim that he would pay off the national debt or his claim that winning a trade war with China would be easy during his first term. Or that he could bring peace to Ukraine before even taking office.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | May 5, 2025 6:45 PM |
Nothing new, R62; he has always been a sadist.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | May 5, 2025 6:52 PM |
R79 and you say that like you are surprised or like anyone else would be
by Anonymous | reply 81 | May 5, 2025 6:56 PM |
Trump is nuts/dementia addled AND this is probably to distract from the upcoming empty shelves/supply chain disruptions. Both things can be true.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | May 5, 2025 7:30 PM |
ABC NEWS: William Marshall, the new director of the Bureau of Prisons, said Monday that the agency will “vigorously” pursue “all avenues to support and implement” President Trump’s agenda — including an assessment to determine “needs and the next steps,” including the president’s idea to reopen and expand the famed Alcatraz prison.
“USP Alcatraz has a rich history. We look forward to restoring this powerful symbol of law, order, and justice. We will be actively working with our law enforcement and other federal partners to reinstate this very important mission,” Marshall said.
Trump appointed Marshall to lead the Bureau of Prisons late last month.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | May 5, 2025 7:33 PM |
They can’t even feed their own people, how are they going to feed these migrants? Btw, this is more crap coming from the WH to distract from the economic news.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | May 5, 2025 7:42 PM |
[quote]Trump appointed Marshall to lead the Bureau of Prisons late last month.
Gotta love how all his pets just jump and bark on cue.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | May 5, 2025 7:48 PM |
[quote] Gotta love how all his pets just jump and bark on cue.
Have you ever had a job before?
by Anonymous | reply 86 | May 5, 2025 7:55 PM |
Trumpers: I hate shithole countries
Also Trumpers: We love Rwanda and El Salvador!
by Anonymous | reply 87 | May 5, 2025 8:08 PM |
His pets are of the varieties that slither and hiss, R85.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | May 5, 2025 8:10 PM |
R66 urban renewal. On a rock in the bay?! You’re nuts.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | May 5, 2025 8:48 PM |
Scott Weiner responds to the reopening Alcatraz idea.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | May 5, 2025 9:00 PM |
Trump is a terrible person and the worst president this country has ever seen, but I don't think it has anything to do with dementia. People like to throw that term around the same way they used to use "retard" to describe people they didn't like. A friend and colleague of mine kept swearing he had dementia from the beginning of his first term. If that's so, it certainly has been an unusually slow form. Both my father and grandmother suffered fron that terrible condition. Both of them had considerable progression in 8 years (actually they had both died within 8 years of diagnosis). Trump's first day in office was over 8 years ago. If you keep saying he has dementia, and he lives long enough, I guess you may be right. The unfortunate truth is that Joe Biden shows more objective evidence of dementia. That said, I would much prefer a Joe Biden with dementia in the White House than a Donald Trump without it.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | May 5, 2025 9:02 PM |
R91 Hi both sides troll!
by Anonymous | reply 92 | May 5, 2025 9:11 PM |
[QUOTE] Trump is a terrible person and the worst president this country has ever seen, but I don't think it has anything to do with dementia. People like to throw that term around the same way they used to use "retard" to describe people they didn't like.
These rightwingers did it with Joe Biden. Now they can get a taste of their own medicine.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | May 5, 2025 11:10 PM |
R93 That is very true, but there are so many negative things about Trump that I don't think it's necessary to go with using dementia as a pejorative term.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | May 5, 2025 11:17 PM |
This is not happening on so many levels. I'm kind of pissed it has gotten the media attention it has because it is a non-starter, and reporting on this bullshit idea just gives Trump the undeserved attention he craves.
I'm sure a few SF DL'ers can speak to the condition of the place. I went a few years ago, and it is just not going to happen.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | May 5, 2025 11:21 PM |
Did Trump come up with this idea after watching Escape From Alcatraz on TV?
Things that make you go hmmmm
by Anonymous | reply 96 | May 5, 2025 11:24 PM |
It’s in poor condition, R95, but does the Trump administration really care? There are articles that say millions must be spent to bring it up to “federal code,” but the law doesn’t apply to Trump. So they can get this done a lot sooner than people think if they don’t give a shit about the conditions of the facility.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | May 5, 2025 11:44 PM |
Prisons are as much their buildings as their culture. The Alcatraz “culture” just doesn’t exist any longer. Penal theories, rehabilitation methods, behavior intervention strategies, programming, housing and disciplining offenders have changed in the last 60 years. Prisons of today are not like prisons of that era. To be sure buildings maybe the same, but the culture has shifted.
As far as the physical plant, it is not fit for prison service without significant hardening. The days of the old Folger lock and a massive ring of keys are long gone. The days of impeccably uniformed officers are also gone. The surveillance retrofitting would need to be substantial as would the physical plant for the safety and security of the offender population and staff.
Let’s also consider operating procedures, post orders and facility directives do not exist for an updated Alcatraz. What exists is for a prison and penal program that no longer exists. There are serious safety and security considerations here…
Lastly, this was a prison that housed around 300 individuals… Let that sink in… 300 offenders… ADX Florence houses about 350 on average and cost $60,000,000.00 to build in 1994… The cost to retrofit and bring a physical plant like Alcatraz up to any thing remotely useful would likely surpass 200 million. I’m aware of a large prison being constructed new for almost a billion dollars…
by Anonymous | reply 98 | May 5, 2025 11:48 PM |
R97, check out the post at r79. This will never happen. It’s a distraction. The supermarket shelves are already starting to thin, it’s going to get very bumpy. Expect the shit posts like this Alcatraz post to start flying. Anything to distract from the shit storm about to hit us.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | May 5, 2025 11:50 PM |
This will never happen.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | May 5, 2025 11:52 PM |
Interesting post, r98. Thank you.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | May 6, 2025 1:00 AM |
Trump is obsessed with Capone because he too is a criminal who keeps escaping punishment.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | May 6, 2025 1:29 AM |
[quote] "The Bureau of Prisons currently has 16 penitentiaries performing the same high-security functions as Alcatraz, including its maximum security facility in Florence, Colorado, and the U.S. penitentiary in Terre Haute, Indiana, which is home to the federal death chamber."
The psychological component is important. We don’t have the kind of infamous prisons that the public would easily recognize as being where the worst criminals will be sent for terrible treatment. Sending a prisoner to Terre Haute doesn’t have the same ring to it as sending bad people to Alcatraz.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | May 6, 2025 2:18 AM |
So dumb.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | May 6, 2025 4:27 AM |
r103 because the media never shows conditions at that prison. If they did Terre Haute would be infamous.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | May 6, 2025 10:23 AM |
This will never happen. Trump says crazy stuff like this to distract from his terrible mismanagement of the economy.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | May 6, 2025 10:35 AM |
[quote] because the media never shows conditions at that prison.
There has to be a balancing act. You want prisons to be harsh and for criminals to know they’re harsh, but you don’t want to call attention to it so much that courts get involved. That’s where you can depend on longstanding reputation, like Alcatraz, Attica, Sing Sing, and Angola used to have.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | May 6, 2025 1:05 PM |
[quote] This will never happen. Trump says crazy stuff like this to distract from his terrible mismanagement of the economy.
The distraction is created by the media. They could treat the statement about Alcatraz as crazy and just give it a brief mention to say they did their job. Instead they make it a big story.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | May 6, 2025 1:14 PM |
On another note, when I first visited SF, I was amazed how much of a presence Alcatraz has in SF. One sees it often. I found it disturbing to have to look at a prison so often and smack dab in the middle of such a beautiful place. I wondered why don't they tear it down and build a west coast Statue of Liberty of some sort. I grew up seeing the Statue and Lower Manhattan regularly, which made me imagine that harbors are always monumental places (the Colossus of Rhodes). I was wrong.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | May 6, 2025 1:20 PM |
[quote] On another note, when I first visited SF, I was amazed how much of a presence Alcatraz has in SF.
It would be nice if there was a state prison facility there for thieves as a warning to them.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | May 6, 2025 1:25 PM |
This thread is a reminder that the Dems need to make better prison conditions for federal prisoners a major emphasis for 2028.
Maybe different ideas that Harris ?
by Anonymous | reply 113 | May 6, 2025 1:33 PM |
^^^Federal prisons are already seen as country clubs. Better prison conditions is not a priority for most Americans who are fed up with crime and the lack of consequences for criminals. What is it with so many democrats that they are so clueless about the tenor of the public and reality in general?
by Anonymous | reply 114 | May 6, 2025 1:37 PM |
[quote]This thread is a reminder that the Dems need to make better prison conditions for federal prisoners a major emphasis for 2028.
While I agree that our prison system needs an overhaul, that's one of the last things I'd advise Democrats to focus on in upcoming campaigns.
To paraphrase R114, read the room.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | May 6, 2025 1:44 PM |
R114 well maybe you are correct and improving prison conditions and offering elective surgery to prisoners is not something the Dems should push hard in 2028.
So then it’s won’t be a progressive dem ticket ?
by Anonymous | reply 117 | May 6, 2025 1:48 PM |
R116 I was on DL and I did read the room. But I forget DL has absolutely nothing to do with the real world or winning elections. My bad and I stand corrected,
Are we also not getting strongly behind other long standing progressive stances and wants in 2028 ?
by Anonymous | reply 118 | May 6, 2025 1:53 PM |
R114, that’s not reality. We keep building more prisons while crime has been decreasing since the 90s. There are certainly pockets where crime is still an issue, but that has more to do with poverty, which Americans do NOT want to address. We simply don’t care about doing the things that would lessen it.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | May 6, 2025 2:08 PM |
[quote]It would be nice if there was a state prison facility there for thieves as a warning to them.
San Quentin is nearby and also sits on some prime real estate in Marin County.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | May 6, 2025 2:25 PM |
😂 Like thieves and murderers are worried about what prison they get sent to. “Oh man, Trump reopened Alcatraz. Better sign up for a Pell Grant and start cracking the books.”
by Anonymous | reply 121 | May 6, 2025 4:18 PM |
R121, if even one does, that’s a success.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | May 6, 2025 4:57 PM |
"Better prison conditions is not a priority for most Americans who are fed up with crime and the lack of consequences for criminals."
If Americans are so fucking fed up with crime and the lack of consequences for criminals, why did they elect a convicted felon to POTUS who has yet to suffer any consequences for his misdeeds.
Me thinks this is just another in a long line of Republican memes and talking points.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | May 6, 2025 5:01 PM |
[quote]This will never happen. Trump says crazy stuff like this to distract from his terrible mismanagement of the economy.
People always say this, but I don't think so anymore. It's just part of the chaos he loves to create. He doesn't distract people because he doesn't care what they think as far as consequences go; he knows he can do whatever he wants. He also knows he can say whatever he wants, so he does.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | May 6, 2025 5:21 PM |
Oh, and he also doesn't care if he's mismanaging the economy or people think he is.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | May 6, 2025 5:23 PM |
I'd love to give Dump 3 hots and a cot.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | May 6, 2025 5:24 PM |
United States 2: Alcatraz Boogaloo
by Anonymous | reply 127 | May 6, 2025 5:27 PM |