Tell me about fisting

I wouldn't know anything about such a debauched pastime!

I understand lesbians doing this, but somehow not gay men.

I mean, must we REALLY escalate things so?

jebus GOD!

I didn't know about the gloves.

I’ve fisted guys a couple of times just out of curiosity. The feeling of intimacy when you have your fist up a guy’s arse is incredible. You feel his heartbeat very well for instance. I never stayed there too long anyway as I was really worried to damage anything.

Love touches us all in its own special way.

Like having sex with a woman, it's something I have NO desire to try even once.

How old are you R6?

R3 many others did not know as well about gloves.

The fisting community in 1981 led by the FFA the FistFuckersOf America, if you watch the movie cruising closely, you will see than in NY state the FFA as a group had personalized license plates so all citizens of NY would know

The FFA became ground central for death and AIDS in 1981. I wonder if even one former actual active member of the FFA is alive today..

Gloves and condoms would have saved lots and lots of men’s lives. And no poppers would have meant a fuck less fisting to begin with. Poppers did have a lot to do with AIDS just not the way many thought.

Fisting a woman actually makes sense

For those that have seen the movie cruising and did not see any FFA NY license plates on cars.

There is a scene in the movie where the camera lingers briefly on a dark street no people but two cars sitting outside the bar.

If you look you can see the FFA license plates one numbered in the high 90s as I remember the other has a 100+ number. So clearly not just two very proud men that created plates the FFA was officially recognized by New York State.

Then they all died

It's an extreme sport.

Fisting a woman, in the vagina, which is actually built for such things, is considered the Lesbian Secret Weapon for Sexual Pleasure.

We may have some experts here who know for sure—- or not.

I read this in a woman’s magazine while waiting to get my teeth cleaned. In my defense that office did not have NFL weekly or Full Contact Sports Monthly which of course would be my normal reading..

R8, one can’t get HIV from a fist to an ass, you idiot.

They got HIV because they got fucked by cocks too

I’ve told this story before…

Fisting is totally not my thing, but there was this hot muscular guy I hooked up with. I thought he was into me, but he was really into the size of my hands. So during sex, what started off as fingering lead to me adding dingers then my entire fist. It was so intense. I didn’t much care for it because you feel parts of someone’s body that you shouldn’t really be familiar with. I don’t need to feel your pelvis bones from the inside. And it is not warm but hot. He came so hard while I was doing it, and it was kind of fascinating - like in what world does this feel good? But I guess it does.

I did it a couple of times. And I was always amazed by how absolutely clean he was. There was no trace of anything ever. Except one time - I must have gone deeper than usual and reached some deeper inner sanctum. It opened up and dropped a small walnut sided turd into my hand. He was like a vending machine. I pulled my hand out, place it on a tissue on the bed, and just stared at it, briefly questioning my choices in life.

I did see a porn of a woman getting fisted in the ass. It was way more violent than anything in gay fucking porn. Of course, the woman acted like she loved it

[Quote] So clearly not just two very proud men that created plates the FFA was officially recognized by New York State.

FFA was not officially recognized at anything by NYS. One. An easily choose a personalized license plate with the letters “FFA 99” without the state recognizing anything

I have fisted a few guys as a top. While the guys seem to go into a trance, I’m not sure the feeling is sexual. Sure, it’s usually placed in the sex category because you’re naked and I feeling up a person’s ass. I’m not convinced the bottoms are feeling turned on. One gorgeous guy I fisted was so clean inside—no matter how far up I got, smooth and clean. Baffled how he was able to do that.

I tried it bottoming twice. The guy got his fist in me but it just didn’t feel great. Don’t need to do that again.

R12 It’s 2025 and ignorance still rules.

you know what comes along with fisting? Blood often blood. Often a little often more than a little.

Because the ass is not built to have hands inserted there is often damage. Cuts and abrasions. People also have , cuts, and sores on their bare hands. This is why those that don’t use gloves should rinse their hands in alcohol before to see if they have cuts before they insert. And no one was using gloves in 1979.

Fisting as opposed to fucking puts the top or fister at extreme risk unless they use a glove.

Seriously I am surprised you don’t know this

I regret opening this thread on the Lord's day.

R7 Almost old enough for Medicare! I guess I'm not very adventurous. Never been into leather or S&M stuff either (not judging anyone that is, I promise). Is this more of a younger person's kind of thing?

R17, bullshit. Usually, fisting does not come with blood. And usually, hands don’t have cuts and scrapes enough to leak blood.

WTF are you even taking about,

They got HIV because they got fucked too

R15 the FFA was an actual organization and NY State was happy to give that group license plates to celebrate their organization and hobby.

All personalized plates are approved by the state

If the plates had celebrated something NY State did not want on a license plates—the words -cunt—-ass—fag—fuck—- those plates would have never been approved.

FFA was fine with NY state. Besides it’s not like it was upstate or middle NY state we are talking about..

Future Farmers of America? I always loved doing that when I was little!

[Quote] NY State was happy to give that group license plates to celebrate their organization and hobby. All personalized plates are approved by the state.

More bullshit. Sure, NY state approves personalized license plates, but it doesn’t ask “what does FFA mean?” And then say “NYS recognizes FFA as an official organizations.”

It just allows someone to choose “FFA 7” if not one already has it.

[Quote] If the plates had celebrated something NY State did not want on a license plates—the words -cunt—-ass—fag—fuck—- those plates would have never been approve

“FFA” is not considered a bad word so is on no one’s radar to ban

fun-sized hand puppet

Well yes I assumed we understood that the fister or the fistee would have to have been infected already with HIV. Yes we agree Fisting by itself does not cause HIV. A virus is the issue,

And it does not take blood or cuts you are even aware of.

the gay fisting community of 1980 was the main ground central for aids and death in the US in 1982. Without fisting and poppers or if gloves were used HIV and AIDS in the US would have played out differently.

With gloves and condoms there would have never been a gay aids crisis in the US

I’m blushing ☺️

[Quote] the gay fisting community of 1980 was the main ground central for aids and death in the US in 1982. Without fisting and poppers or if gloves were used HIV and AIDS in the US would have played out differently.

It’s wasn’t ground central for HIV. The entire gay community was ground central. The vast majority of people with HIV got it without fisting or poppers. You’re a complete fool

" I must have gone deeper than usual and reached some deeper inner sanctum. It opened up and dropped a small walnut sided turd into my hand. He was like a vending machine. "

SAD!

[Quote] And it does not take blood or cuts you are even aware of.

It actually does. If a hand went it, it would have to have cuts AND contact blood. Fisting does not usually involve blood. Even if it did, your hand cut would have to be large enough for the ass blood to get into. HIV is a very weak virus, in that it dies the second it hits air. If one were to pull out the hand from the ass, the virus would die without having a chance to end these tiny scrape you claim hand have. Plus lube alone likely twarts the virus from getting to open cut.

Fisting is not a major conduit for HIV

Haha! Farmers in action! Look at the symbol

No cows being harmed, here’s a simulation of what vets and farmers are adept at. Seriously, some people do that for 8 hours a day on real cows in the beef and dairy industry.

A study published in sexually infectious disease journal concerning men with HIV some years go , men who also contracted Heo C , the major contributing factor to hep c dx was fisting, nothing else except fisting.

R28 HIV like all STDs can indeed happen to anyone even after a one time occurrence. But that’s not the usual way. Gay men who did not get fucked anally, men not involved with fisting, did not get gang fucked at the Club Baths on a Friday night , those men were not wiped out by AIDS as a group.

If in 1978 you were a cocksucker who did not get fucked or fisted your chances of being alive today are quite good.

AIDS was very much behavior related. It was not a curse from god on gay men they could not avoid it was about the behavior especially in the baths and sex clubs. Very interesting and popular places in the 1970s and on.

And men fisting men was so popular you could hear songs about it on the radio in the 70s.. There was a run on Crisco.

All STD related diseases are strongly correlated to behavior. Not sexual orientation race or class as such . It’s behavior it’s what you do , who you do it with, not who you are that counts.

[Quote] And men fisting men was so popular you could hear songs about it on the radio in the 70s..

Name one such song

I assure every single fisting bottom in the world started out by getting fucked by a cock

Here you go, OP!

[Quote] AIDS was very much behavior related. It was not a curse from god on gay men they could not avoid it was about the behavior especially in the baths and sex clubs. Very interesting and popular places in the 1970s and on.

The vast majority of HIV transmission did not occur in baths. In fact, HIV continued to ravage gays even after baths were closed.

Almost every disease is behavior related. Eat a lifetime of bad food and you get a heart attack or stroke. Not sure what your point is.

[Quote] AIDS was very much behavior related.

So is Covid.

Stop recycling right wing bullshit

The vast majority of gay men did not participate in fisting. Yet they got HIV.

Very little correlation with fisting with HIV.

The correlation and causation is unprotected sex where semen hits anal tissues.

Since nearly 100% of fistees are also bottoms for cock, the cause of their HIV was getting fucked unprotected.

[Quote] It’s behavior it’s what you do , who you do it with, not who you are that counts.

Wow, it seems that there’s an Einstein among us…

R34 there was a snappy song I heard back in the day, on a radio of sorts, while in the club baths. Not sure of the exact title but it was very sappy with a good tune and it was a song that celebrated Midol—— for men’s use.

Midol was considered a good thing for a fisting bottom to use back in the day. I have heard they have changed Midol make up since then so it my not be worth a damn today,

I am not suggesting Top 40 kind of love songs.. more niche.

[Quote] on a radio of sorts

There’s a HUGE difference between “On the radio” and “on a radio of sorts”

No one said only fisters got AIDS. That would be stupid. And unprofessional.

What I said was that fisting was ground central for HIV aids in 1981 The activity had an extremely high infection rate. If you were into cocksucking only in 1978 you may well be alive and today be posting on the DL.

But if you were into fisting in1978 there is a very good chance you are dead today.

R43 true I did not ask my friend Mr Campbell who started the club chain what their sound system was like. It was a very good professionally made song and it was played at the baths. I am talking deaths and you are concerned if it was radio or just a tape system.

Another way to look at behavior risk and hiv.

Previous NIH study

Gay Men who reported fisting within the past 3 months were 5x more likely to have HIV than those gay men who reported no fisting,

That's because, R45, fisters are more likely to be sexually promiscuous. It's true, and we all know it even if you do ride fists all Saturday night and take mother to Mass on Sunday morning, safe in the knowledge that no unwrapped dick entered your aching chasm because "NOT ALL FISTERS DO THAT" or something like that.

On the bell curve of gay sex, fisters are the biggest whores of all.

But if gloves were used fisting would not be overly risky at all at least as far as infectious disease. It’s not the sex that’s the problem it’s the lack of protection .

I’m not sure they were fisting at those truck stops in Africa. A lot of it was straight hetero prostitution.

[Quote] Previous NIH study Gay Men who reported fisting within the past 3 months were 5x more likely to have HIV than those gay men who reported no fisting,

Please cite this study. Doubtful that NIH would do this study. CDC might but not NIH

The obvious HUGE confounding factor is that those who like fists also tend to like lots of cocks. Fisting, per say, is not the cause of HIV transmission; being a bottom slut is

[Quote] But if gloves were used fisting would not be overly risky at all at least as far as infectious disease. It’s not the sex that’s the problem it’s the lack of protection .

So are you claiming that the tops got HIV from the fisting bottoms? Laughably bad science

[Quote] No one said only fisters got AIDS.

No, absolutely no one said that-so why would you bring it up

[Quote] Gay Men who reported fisting within the past 3 months were 5x more likely to have HIV than those gay men who reported no fisting,

If the conclusion of this supposed study is “wear gloves,” that would be what we call junk science

R50 yes fisters who fisted HIV + bottoms , and let’s face it many fistee bottoms were infected,, the tops were at extremely high risk themselves. It was those nicks and paper cuts or sores on their hands that put them at risk. Blood related infections.

R49 that study was reported by NIH not CDC.. I am sure you can find it with a quick google.

R52 the conclusion as I remember was that men who had fisted within the past 3 months were 5x more likely to be HIV infected than those who had not fisted within the past 3 months.

Wear gloves is certainly my conclusion whether you think that bad science or not.,

R2, why lesbians? That’s nuts.

WEHT all those guys with assholes the size of the Lincoln Tunnel?

Nah, I'm good, thanks. Next question please.

R55 lesbians have this thing we call a pussy. When lesbians talk fisting they are not normally talking about tearing up some poor women’s asshole it’s the pussy they are talking about,

R56 in the 1970s there were fisting bottoms that were two hands or two arms men. The Lincoln tunnel might be far to small an example, for them

This thread should also be a part of the —- do straights know what’s going on with gay sex —-that was active recently.

I enjoy it, but only if disco lights are involved. I

R37 it’s that horse is already out of the barn thing. Pt Zero and the other Pt Zeros for different chains of HIV infections were spending lots of times in the baths in 1978-1979. Years before that mmwr came out. I remember being in the baths and seeing some one with many KS type of sores on his body. I had not a clue what those could have been at the time.

By 1988-1989 the baths were a Non factor as far as the continuing spread of hiv. It was the role they play early.

It’s been years since I saw The Band Played On but I m pretty sure they showed 0 right after being examined and then off to the baths—-where he in real life was spending lots of his stop over time.

Tiny hands help, and my sweet orange snookums does it with exhilaration 🖐️.

In Detroit they have a public tribute to it.

...and poppers cause AIDs.

-RFK, Jr

"During the HIV surge in the 1980s, inhaled volatile nitrites (poppers) were hypothesized as a possible cause of the AIDS. Later it was found that poppers use was not the cause but rather a marker associated with HIV acquisition and sexual behaviors without the use of prevention tools."

Not only is fisting a risk for HIV or certainly was, it’s not likely to be as much so today, it’s the one sexual activity I can think of off hand where the receptive partner is at much much less risk of infection than the top partner.

And as anyone that knows anything about fisting and HIV knows it’s the sores or cuts or abrasions on the hands of the top that puts them at risk if the bottom is HIV pos. Blood whether you know it or see it often is an issue with fisting. Not suggesting thtvthe hand might not also run into the sperm of a few recent gang bangers. But blood is the main risk.

A hiv pos top that is inserting his hand into a hiv- bottom the bottom is not in as much risk.,

Damnit I know I left my keys SOMEWHERE ….

Henry, WTF, that looks like shit on your elbow.

I knew and liked Jack Campbell . Someone very concerned about his clients and providing them a safe place and so concerned about the spread of STDs in his baths .

But it’s possible that Jack has more hands on responsibility for the spread of HIV in the US than. any other single stand alone individual in the country.

If you had to pick one person.

Things like Fist Fuckers of America is why I frequent DL so thank you for that.

[quote]I regret opening this thread on the Lord's day.

Imagine how the poor Lord feels about it.

If there were no sin we would not need a Lord. Sadly a true statement.

Oh my goodness!

Fisting Accident?

When fisting, all seems to breathe freedom and peace and make one forget the world and its sad turmoils.

It's like someone is pushing a piano through your transom.

I'm a total top when it comes to fucking and fisting does not appeal to me at all. I can't see what pleasure I'm meant to get out of it.

Sometimes it’s all about the pleasure to the other person. Or so I have read I am honestly more into me.

It’s got to be.a heady experience to have placed much of your arm up inside another person and can feel their friggin heart beats. Talk about someone wholly submitting.

It’s not for me but I can see how others would.

The “fisting top = HIV risk” troll is the ocular syphilis troll. Same delusions, same weird use of English, ignore her.

I fisted someone around 12 years ago and had enjoyed it, tried it again recently and wasn’t the vibe. Went past my elbow haha. Each to their own but it’s for me it’s a bizarre experience. Also the lube takes forever to wash off 😩

R73 He just fell on it. It’s not a fetish, he swears.

Do it with twist, do it with a…. Oh wow look at the time. Gotta go. 🤜

I once saw Ashley Ryder take it almost to the elbow.

We've yet to hear ANYTHING about the pleasures, the feelings, the eroticism, the connection... from a fistee.

WHY??

I've been fisting in a bass boat. We fisted in the Ohio River. We didn't catch anything because the fists weren't biting.

Damn it! At first glance, I thought this thread was about fishing. I am a fisherman.

No further comment.

Dora at R83, is the h key on your keyboard broken or does it autocorrect to fist?

Was this the song? It was released on an album from Rod McKuen oddly enough

There are alternatives.

I love a good fisting!

me too!

Except Bernie's not a closet case R89.

Gurl, it's just a politician fisting the air. Calm down.

Gross

Gateway drug to traffic cones!

R86 WTF is that supposed to be? Rod McKuen had something to do with that "song"? Sounds like a guy masturbating, I don't get the fisting connection or the Rod McKuen connection.

That scene in Cruising is embeded in my mind. And as much as I hate censorship, I'm not surprised many gays back then didn't want that stuff coming out.

And when I say stuff I mean the fisting...not the stuff that could come out DURING a fisting...which is another reason to wear a glove..

[quote]That scene in Cruising is embeded in my mind.

R95 What scene? I haven't seen the movie in years. I'm not sure if I should watch again or not.

There's a scene in one of the clubs where they show a guy greasing up his fist and then we see another guy in a sling and the fister giving it to him from behind (obviously we dont see penetration but definitely see the movement of the arm going in and out). I'll see if I can find a clip.

Ugh. Again. I swear this board has the memory of an alzheimers patient.

R97 starts at 7:47

[quote]r58 lesbians have this thing we call a pussy. When lesbians talk fisting they are not normally talking about tearing up some poor women’s asshole it’s the pussy they are talking about,

Exactly. Thank you.

Also, a woman's hand is usually smaller than a man's, so I'd think would be an easier fit.

^ Just be sure to trim those nails, girls. No Kardashian talons up in the cooter.

I think fingers are a great sexual asset and an important part of foreplay, especially in combination with oral sex. But fists are a bridge too far. I cringe at the thought of it, and fast forward (FF to ME) through any porn scene that seems to be ready to include it. YIKES!

Fists are a bridge too far? Talk to ER workers. For some fists are not nearly enough..

News at 11 Men gone wild men Men and their hobbies

Wine bottles, a 12 inch long 8 inch wide salami, hairspray cans, a bowling pin, a fist just seems kind of vanilla after you have had a small TV up there. Men can be very creative and poppers or meth just makes it easier to get things done.

What's there to tell OP, you just go without food for however long and drink fluids.

R102 yes those nails. For those that claim that fisting never causes damage or blood do realize that a strong poop or trying to poop and can't can cause damage and blood. Nails certainly can even if you think well trimmed.

This is not a brick highway to love it’s a delicate part of one’s body that can be easily damaged and blood result especially if you have HIV. It’s much worse or more risky for damage and blood if HIV+.

Like the 1929 stock market and democracy not everything lasts. Enjoy things while you can. Dark heavy scary days are coming.

A sad story in the news. Freddie Little Guy Smith a well know beloved gay midget , carnival clown and major fisting enthusiast , has been reported lost today and is still missing after a fisting encounter.. Search teams have arrived and are ready to start the search for the Little Guy.

One searcher said this was the shittiest rescue he had ever been involved with.

How the hell do you get THAT clean enough for someone to stick their arm up yours? I mean...JESUS, how long does that take?

R109 as stated earlier in this thread in 1980 fisting was a major reason for the aids crisis that was soon to unfold. Shit, cum, blood, open sores or open lesions ( especially if the bottom was HIV+) . And back in those days there was a whole lot of fisting going on in the baths and leather venues. A popular group activity.

So neither totally clean and not remotely healthy at least in the 1970s and 1980s.

[quote]How the hell do you get THAT clean enough for someone to stick their arm up yours?

I don't have the answer to your question, but I would assume that most people, especially those who participate in those activities, aren't human sewage pipes back there. One normal bowel movement a day tends to be the norm and that cleans everything out.

R8 Does poppers cause fisting

I just seems it would hurt too much. Does it really feel good??

R112 not likely :-)

Does anyone anywhere get fisted without using poppers?

I pop out at parties!

He fisted me (and it felt like a kiss)

R112 Do a lot of the people die of syphilis?

[quote]R116 He fisted me (and it felt like a kiss)

“And Then You Fisted Me”

Do gray aces get fisted? That would seem antithetical, but labels are so random at this point.

"And there's a rose in a fisted glove"

Thus, love the one you're with.

Dr Daniel Pearce an aids hiv doctor claimed in an abstract or overview online that fisting was also associated with infectious syphilis He surmised it had to do with the damage and cuts open abrasions done to the bottom who also tends to get fucked a lot.

Ok so those who engaged in fisting in the 70s and 80s were statistically more likely to contract HIV. WE GOT IT. YOU'VE MADE YOUR POINT.

R111 Despite your flippant answer, I'll play along. Taking an average-sized cock is not the same as taking an entire FUCKING arm. I would assume a "Normal" bowel movement wouldn't be enough.

This thread is kind of boring without music. Could someone play Touch the Hand of Love by Blossoms which I believe is a different song than Touch the Hand by Conway Twitty . But since I have heard neither I don’t know for sure,

So many good songs I m surprised a few above seem to think there were not.

It’s not at all my normal kind of music , I am more into patriotic march music, but Elbow Deep by Gutteral Disgorge is one of my more fav fisting songs.

You have to keep anything you take.

if this current admin ever suggests or funds an Office on Gay Sexual Health and Risk Reduction, this is the time to get very worried.

Keep those passports handy and current .