In teary BBC interview, Prince Harry says king ‘won’t speak to him’ and he would ‘love’ to be reconciled

He produces fresh new drama on a weekly basis and he wonders why his dad won't speak to him? It's because you'd just run to the tabloids five minutes (if that) after your conversation ended to complain about how Charles wasn't contrite enough or generous enough with your allowances, you assface.

He is such a narcissistic whiny baby.

He keeps trying to litigate everything, and now that he lost, he's going to place the ultimate blame on his father the king.

I hope Charles continues to refuse to see him or speak to him.

He just can't stop. He's gotta keep doing interviews, gotta keep airing drama to the press for cash.

I think they were right to point out the shitty racism and other bad behavior, but I mean, didn’t he realize it would cause a rift? I mean come on.

R4 What racism and what bad behaviour?

I would hate for complete strangers to feel bold enough to opine of a rift with my family.

Oh barf. What a simpering little putz.

[quote]I would hate for complete strangers to feel bold enough to opine of a rift with my family.

Fine, tell him to stop running to the press and oversharing then.

[quote] I would hate for complete strangers to feel bold enough to opine of a rift with my family.

Then why would you run whining to those complete strangers via the BBC?

That's why the motto of The Firm has been: never complain, never explain.

How long before another royal divorce?

My god but he's a low-functioning individual.

[quote] I would hate for complete strangers to feel bold enough to opine of a rift with my family.

WE WANT PRIVACY!

WE WANT PRIVACY!

[quote]I think they were right to point out the shitty racism

Yeah, a 45 million dollar wedding and walked down the aisle by the future King of England. What racists!

[quote] “I can only come to the UK safely if I am invited

He's been over here about 3 times in the last year alone for heavily publicised visits. At no point has he been shot at or had a white fiat try to drive him off the road.

He lies and misrepresents. He can and does come repeatedly if he wants security with bells in, he just has to give 28 days notice

He really has no understanding of the constitutional role his father the king plays. Charles could not interfere in this.

At one point in the interview, he appears to compare his plight to the history of abuse suffered by the indigenous people of Canada. He's a narcissist.

He and his wife chose to leave their public roles. They should be prepared to accept the consequences of their decision.

I hate the monarchy but I'm totally Team Charles here. Harry is such a little man baby. If you really want to make up with your family, don't got on TV and talk about them, bitch.

His father and grandmother were shot at in public. His aunt was kidnapped. All of them continued to allow the public to get within inches of them. Yet he would lead us to believe some bloody massacre would occur if a non- entity like him sets foot on English soil for a private visit. His wife travels with a larger security entourage than the Queen did.

Show us your pink cock and ginger pubes and keep your stupid mouth shut.

Princess Anne on her kidnapping attempt. Balls of steel.

How nice that the BBC recorded him as he finally cut his own royal throat once and for all.

Effectively saying he expected his father to die, blaming his father for following the courts, saying his father should "step aside" so he could have FULL SECURITY, saying it would be bad for the UK if "something were to happen" to his family and him if they visited, saying he "had to" quit doing the royal work.

That 65 IQ is being completely wasted on the cunt's Puppet Boy.

He keeps on being such a mewling, victimhood-enshrouded, media-addicted pathetic disgrace to the rest of his family.

Was this Meghan’s influence on him, or has Harry always been like this?

It's her and he is easily manipulated. A bit dim I'm afraid.

I am still rooting for him but please, he'll never get it right until that beast is surgically removed from his back.

What a fucking asshole. I've always been quite fond of him, even though he's a dumb ass. He served his country as a soldier and always seemed like a decent guy until he hooked up with Meghan. And I don't blame her for his behavior - he's just a very weak man who has merrily given her control of his life.

The fact that he's pulling this bullshit now - blaming his father who is most likely dying of cancer for not paying for the same level of security he'd get if he was a working royal - is despicable. The asshole voluntarily left that family and his royal station. None of his cousins - all direct descendants of the Queen - get protection unless they're working royals.

He's lazy and worthless. What the hell has he accomplished since he moved to the US? Honestly, now I'm starting to feel sorry for Meghan. She has hustled non-stop. Granted, the hustling hasn't amounted to much and she can't get out of her own way, but at least she's trying to make a living. He just bitches and moans that daddy doesn't support him. He's 40 fucking years old!

Remember those nudes from vegas? I wonder how much that woman got paid off for those pictures

That's right H, more interviews, they've been so helpful for your cause in the past.

His father and Kate have dealt with their illnesses with great dignity. I'm stunned that no one has leaked the types of cancers they have or their prognosis. They've been given a level of privacy from the British press that's extraordinarily rare. Then this asshole pops off suggesting his father might not have long to live.

My guess is he has no idea how ill his dad is. And I highly doubt anyone told him what type of cancer Kate had or her level of illness. Because this is how Harry/Meghan operate - take the suffering of others and turn it into their own victimhood.

He's a total loser. 40 years old and no job. Whining like a little bitch that no one is supporting him. He could have had the world on a silver platter but he and Meghan torpedoed that. He's like Trump blaming Biden for the economy. Nothing but a self-induced disaster and no one buys that Charles is responsible for his terrible life choices.

Pussy.

Forgive his father? For what? It's the other way around you ginger imbecile. Did Harry will believe his wife's narrative of slights and insults?

He just can't keep his dumb-ass mouth shut, can he?

He is the very definition of white privilege...cry me a fucking river!

I an watching the BBC interview and he is truly delusional. He compares himself to an elected official who gets lifetime security. He is not one and few of them get lifetime security. He says he is the most at risk member of the family. He still refers to his ill treatment. He and Meghan have chosen an ongoing celebrity lifestyle for the kaching but others should pay for his lifetime cover.

I'm quite sure him and his ugly brood aren't running around Montecito without a security detail so what, he's just too cheap to pay for it himself?

Didn't these people step away from Royal life because they wanted the media, and the reporters, and the cameras out of their life?? Yet here he is on TV doing another fucking interview.

In other words: MEHgan's running out of money and all day long she screams at him: YOU BETTER CALL YOUR DAD AND GET SOME MONEY OR YOU DON'T LOVE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They must be out of money. He and Meghan live a very expensive lifestyle yet have very little income.

Who is responsible for him being so dumb? Is it unfortunate genetics, is it inbreeding, or was Diana hitting the sauce while she was knocked up?

All he has done has come back to bite him in the ass. We don't know the hate mail and threats he has received, but England should to have to pay for "security" of any non-working royal who left his country and now wants to pop back when he cares too. A King left in 1936, was never able to successfully return. Same for Harry's future. What he now wants the King to do the King cannot do. Laws, you know.

He issued a statement pointing out that he has been threatened by Al Qaeda, but omits the fact that he was threatened because he wrote in his book about the specific number of people he killed and compared it to a game.

And having been so reckless, and having sold out his family for tens of millions of pounds, he thinks that I, as a British taxpayer, should be obliged to pay the extortionate cost of having armed Metropolitan Police protection officers follow him around.

The man is a fuckwit and an entitled cunt.

He's wasting millions on legal fees, what a dumb cunt! I read he came into his inheritance or trust just recently...around 40 million.

There can never be reconciliation until both Harry and Meghan show remorse for all the terrible things they have done and said to hurt the Queen, the King, and the rest of the family. Harry and Meghan would also have to make full confessions to retract the incredible lies they have told about the family and their own actions.

[quote]Who is responsible for him being so dumb?

How mother was Diana.

Oops, R38, England should NOT have to pay ...

I just watched the BBC interview. He is paranoid as well as narcissistic, and he sounds obsessed with hating the people he keeps calling his "enemies" who "wish him harm" who were behind the 2020 RAVEC decision (does he mean William & Catherine?).

[quote]he appears to compare his plight to the history of abuse suffered by the indigenous people of Canada.

Jesus! The audacity of this little punk.

[quote]He is paranoid as well as narcissistic, and he sounds obsessed with hating the people he keeps calling his "enemies" who "wish him harm"

Keep in mind that he has Wormtongue (aka Meghan) constantly whispering in his ear.

[quote]They must be out of money. He and Meghan live a very expensive lifestyle yet have very little income.

That's probably ultimately what this is about; while he's by no means perfect, I can't help but feel bad for King Chuck.

The Royal Family should go the way of the Romanovs. The idea of “royalty” is a ridiculous relic of a shameful past. Just get rid of them all.

I just can't see how Harry thought this was going to endear him to his father and brother and put any pressure on them. He is sure to be eviscerated by the British press for this.

R48

Maybe they could just die out slowly?

To the Bolsheviks’ dismay, not all of the victims died immediately after being shot, and the armed men soon turned to bayonets, knives, the butts of their guns, and brute force to finish killing off the children. It took about 20 minutes for all of them to die. The youngest of the Romanov children, Alexei, was just 13 years old at the time. According to Russia Beyond, young Alexei also suffered from the bleeding disorder hemophilia throughout his short life, meaning that his death may have been particularly agonizing.

He reminds me of a member of my family where it's a cocktail of grievances, entitlement and self absorption... and then when you cut them off like Charles has they complain that you won't speak to them. This interview is another chance to get on their soapbox because they think if they just explain how hard done by they are one more time everyone will side with them and see the others are the "bad guys" in this.

r51, that's the classic pattern of aggrieved narcissists.

This is very upsetting. Has anyone asked if Meghan's OK?

I just watched a snippet of Meghan interviewed on some podcast this week. It was insipid. She’s so outlandishly dull. And the faux joy she expresses for the banality of her life…turning her morning routine to get her kids off to school an epic poem—with her as the selfless heroine. It’s worth watching to hear her describe all her work responsibilities—writing social captions, creating sku numbers for her products! And all she has to manage while being a good wife and mom.

These two fools….i haven’t listened to her new podcast. I just can’t. But I heard it’s tanking. What’s left for them? He’s totally paranoid and clearly mentally ill. He’s probably always been a bit unstable but the Meghan saga stress pushed him over the edge. And Meghan…I still can’t get over the fact that the only family at her wedding was her mom. Only celebs she barely—or didn’t—know. That’s all you really need to know about that one.

Who will hire them? Meghan has failed at all her ventures and Harry is a lazy ass. Only thing left is for Meghan to get divorced and write a book

These fools made the last days of Elizabeth II and Philip miserable with their pointless controversies, and now they're doing the same to Charles. The 'Sussex Squad' is always ready to defend their behavior, while I just dig in my heels and hate Harry and Meghan a little more, with each outpouring.

They won't be able to make the next monarchy miserable because William will strip them of everything he can.

[Quote] [R4] What racism and what bad behaviour?

What January 6 insurrection?

BREXIT? What BREXIT?

R5 also believes Andrew was FRAMED

Harry and Meghan are exhausting.

Wondering what a baby will look like is not racism.

[quote]r22 He keeps on being such a mewling, victimhood-enshrouded, media-addicted pathetic disgrace to the rest of his family.

Really, though, don't you think Andrew and his wife have been the most disgraceful? I mean, they are actually [italic]criminally corrupt.[/italic]

He married her after she almost killed daddy. Always has been selfish.

Man up, Harry and stop being a baby.

The royal family live their entire lives in a goldfish bowl, and they are extremely careful about guarding their privacy. Anyone in their circle knows this and does not talk about them. If they do, they are brutally dropped. Harry grew up inside this system and knows the rules. He only has himself to blame for the pasting he’s going to receive.

He has the same problem Andrew did--he's not the Prince of Wales and can't understand why he doesn't have the same perks.

The most shocking part of the interview was him saying that someone does want history to repeat itself, i.e., someone (in the family?) wants a Sussex dead. When the interview followed up, he said he wouldn't say anything more "at this time". Spare II on the way, I guess.

Can no one intervene to stop this self-pitying, paranoid dum-dum from making his problems worse? MM can't be happy about him burning almost $2 million.

Buckingham Palace issued a statement: "All of these issues have been examined repeatedly and meticulously by the courts, with the same conclusion reached on each occasion."

Not as pithy as "Recollections may vary", but nicely dispassionate.

[QUOTE]Only thing left is for Meghan to get divorced and write a book

[QUOTE]Spare II on the way, I guess.

I believe the contract with the publisher contains two more books which haven't materialized yet, so give it time. When Spare came out, Harry said that he and the ghost writer had to pare it down substantially to come to a manageable length, so there's enough written for a good start for a second tome. I have a feeling it won't sell as well.

By definition, the material not included in the first book is the less interesting stuff and reviewers will hammer any sequel even mot than the first one.

Harry was once the most popular Royal. His unfortunate marriage to a malignant narcissist ruined everything for him. He has burned all bridges, all at the behest of his twat wife. But the real blame is on his own weak personality and jealousy of his brother.

Unfortunately the older brother is turning into a cold, brittle twat just like their father. So no extra largesse will be extended when that asshole takes the throne.

Harry and Meghan are stuck in a vicious cycle. They do hypocritical things (such as Meghan recently using her HRH title after blasting the monarchy), people call them out on it, and they take the call-outs as further evidence that everyone's out to get them.

The Oprah interview aired when Philip was on his deathbed. Even if Harry hadn't been told that his grandfather was dying, he knew that being hospitalised at 99 is generally the death knell. He could easily have asked for the interview's release to be postponed. Instead, he allowed it to air, leaving his grandmother to deal with the fallout from the press as her husband was dying.

I'm sure the royals aren't completely innocent in all of this, but in the end it's ridiculous of Harry to be shocked that they don't want to speak to him. Who's going to trust someone who might repeat what you've said out of context in an interview or book?

The high dudgeon here is hilarious. It’s beyond bizarre the way so many of you are so personally aggrieved on Charles and William’s behalf. Neither one of them would piss on you if you were on fire.

Andrew is a scumbag r61 but he keeps a relatively low profile. He doesn't give interviews on a regular basis. I think Andrew is undoubtedly a far worse person but he's less of an embarrassment to the family.

Harry doesn't mention that the people who get lifetime police protection are former prime ministers and M5 directors who know state secrets. A former prince knows no state secrets; protecting him should not be a burden on the taxpayer.

He and his woeful family would get protection, they just have to notify CPS of their plans 45 days in advance of their arrival. They can stay on Crown properties and be protected. They can bring all the private unarmed security that they want. If the CPS hears of a verifiable threat, they will inform him and provide security until the threat has passed.

What they won’t do is automatically provide bodyguards. Meghan really wound Harry up. I’m not sure if he realizes that she’s the one calling the paps.

[quote]At no point has he been shot at or had a white fiat try to drive him off the road.

Yeah, but just wait till he tries to stiff Meghan in the divorce...

R50 “According to Russia Beyond, young Alexei also suffered from the bleeding disorder hemophilia…”

Are you really sure about that? Any better source than Russia Beyind? 🤔😵‍💫

R2 What an awful thing to say. The man is dying. He needs the love of his family not drama. He’s always been close to his boys, they need to make amends.

He'll never be allowed back. She'll never be tolerated in any way.

Their whining and whinging have always been grounded in viciously false attacks, driven by her moral vacancy and trash ambition and his pussy-whipped idiocy. Ultimately for her it's all about the money and "influence," and for him an imagined prominence that his family has denied him.

You don't lie about the Princess of Wales, accuse the Prince of Wales of being a thug, repeatedly insult the Queen Consort, make every family sorrow about yourself and try to monetize them, noisily ridicule Royal traditions, enact parodies of curtsying to your husband's grandmother the Queen for the camera, renege on your stepping-back agreements, set yourself up in a California palace as if you're the Court in Waiting, accuse the Princess Royal of being racist, invent a car chase in Manhattan for clicks, cozy up to dictators for money, instruct the family on how to do things that they've been managing for centuries, and declare the UK the MOST DANGEROUS COUNTRY IN THE WORLD as an excuse for denying the King a visit with his grandchildren while using them as props for your failing business enterprises, and expect that anything but your death will allow your carcass to be received into the country, if only to be dropped into an obscure hole.

Even the Meghan is bossy, the Royal Family should have been more sensitive to Meghan’s position and the fact that she was going through a lot due to all the hate she was getting from common folk. They should have uplifted Meghan. Instead they ostracized her. Megan isn’t totally blameless. She was pretty damn bitchy too. Sad tragedy all the way around.

R81 What hate?

Nice substitution of fantasy for reality, R81. No one but a small, small lunatic fringe had any problem with Meghan at the time of the marriage. Once they got to know her it was another story. You're American, right?

R73, I'm not aggrieved on Charles or William's behalf. If there were a referendum on the monarchy tomorrow, I'd vote to abolish. That doesn't mean I don't find Harry's hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness annoying.

Anyway, on the BBC News YouTube channel, Harry's interview currently has 6.6K likes and 18K dislikes.

R83 I just want peace and harmony. Can anybody offer the first olive. Time is so short.

r85, why does this have anything to do with what you want?

R85 does the olive come with a martini?

Harry made his bed when he left the UK at 35 and accepted the deal the palace made with him. He is unwilling to work anymore at being a royal, but fortunately for him and his wife his great-grandmother left him a lot of money. He can come back and bring his family if he gives advance notice, and he'll get security protection, but not enough to make him and his wife think they are the most important members of his family, which is really what this is all about.

He doesn't need it anymore. William is the heir to the throne, and his three children are the heirs after him. The likelihood all three of William's children would die before Harry (without their having children of their own, who would also stand between him and the throne) is so infinitesimal no one believes it would ever happen. There is no reason for anyone to want to kill him or his wife or his children. If it's al-Qaeda taking revenge, that's his own fault for blabbing about killing so many people during the war--he did not have to do that, but decided to do it anyway. In any case, the likelihood Al-Qaeda would try so long after that war to have him killed is pretty remote.

His father and William do not want to see him because they cannot let down their guard with him--he blabs everything they say to him, and of course he would do so again. He is addicted to the attention. He loves his privileges, but like Andre and Margaret before him he has trouble accepting he benefits from being in a system based on primogeniture when he was not the first-born. No one is going to advance him to the throne even if he thinks he is smarter and more deserving than William--that's not how his system works. If he wants to be judged on his merits entirely, then he needs to leave the royal system entirely. He and Meghan are still unwilling to do that--they still want to be called "Your Royal Highness" and be bowed before. If he wants any chance of reconciliation with his brother and father, he's got to shut his big mouth.

And he does not get special protection for doing "service" from the UK establishment because he does not get to decide on his own what his "service" is--if he wants them to consider his service, he has to do what the Palace asks him to do. He never seems willing to accept the plain fact that insofar as he matters to anyone it is because he is the son of the king and the brother of the Prince of Wales. He gets money and benefits from that position, but he does not get to be more important than they are.

[QUOTE]They should have uplifted Meghan. Instead they ostracized her.

It was a slap in Meghan's face and a kick to the gutter when the Queen appointed her the only Royal patron to the National Theatre. They tried to trick her by telling her it's prestigious position, but Meghan knew better. She always does and was having none of it..

A close friend of a close friend served in the same unit as Harry many years ago. Harry was helpless, hapless, dumb as a ham sandwich. He could barely put toothpaste on his own toothbrush.

Sure, Jhan.

A quote from The Times today underscores the trust problem:

“It’s not that the King won’t speak to him — it’s that he can’t. How can you have a private and delicate conversation when you know it is going to end up on a news special within hours? Perhaps if he tried to earn rather than demand a reconciliation, things might go a little better for him. It’s just very tragic.”

I was a Meghan supporter at the beginning. I am a biracial woman and I felt for her going up against the racist British tabloids. However it became pretty clear that she a complete and ruthless social climber. She uses people and discards them. Her father is a creep so I am not talking about him. Her ex-husband - who she dumped by FedEx letter and her best friend from childhood who she discarded once she got Suits.

Then I watched a couple of episodes of their cringe fest Netflix dox. At one point they were in a car and Harry was insisting that they were being followed. Meghan was egging him on. It seems like he is quite paranoid after the death of his mother. He needed to marry a woman who would tell him to get a grip and plant him firmly in reality. Instead he married a woman who wants nothing but fame and money. I think William is a complete dolt and I have no doubt that being a member of the royal family is challenging but Meghan never intended to stay in the UK.

None of you understand the danger I am in. If I go back to the UK, Willie might break another of my necklaces.

R81 is a liar of the knuckle-dragger type.

The welcome for that woman in the UK was broad and heartfelt. She seemed a fresh force, rather than just another adventuress cunt trying to parlay a stupid prince's masochism into her rise to glory.

Meghan was and is as shallow as a puddle, as greedy as an untrained child, and as dishonest as all grifters are. Don't play the Poor Little Black Yankee Girl with the people of the UK. If anything they were rather slow to realize how horrible she is. Until then she was a heroine.

Their courses will be the opposite of their insane "dreams" of unlimited wealth and influence, crapped out on the public in the pretense of "cultivated and color-empowered wisdom." She hated being called black until she saw the quick course to victimhood with it. Foul, foul people.

Why is William a complete dolt?

I can't feel sorry for anyone who lives in Montecito.

Lady C @LadyColinCampb

"Well, well, well. If you think the cat's well and truly out of the bag now that Prince Harry has been shooting his mouth off to the BBC, the bongo bongo drums are telling me that this is but the tip of the iceberg. I'm not going to drip feed what I'm hearing. This weekend is proving to be so edifying that I'm going to exercise a measure of patience over the next few days, while Harry dances amidst the chunks of the iceberg on the first class decks, unaware that even as big a ship as the Titanic will sink once it's been holed enough. All I will say,between now and early next week, when the damage will be clearer, is that it couldn't be happening to a more deserving guy. And that's without mentioning his dancing partner."

William does no work. Even before Kate got sick. He is lazy AF and he uses tone of the private helicopter more than any other royal to go on posh holidays or to football games. He is incurious and an all around turd of a man.

When you're the heir to the throne and you will be king I guess it's unavoidable that you're going to be a bit of an asshole.

[quote][R83] I just want peace and harmony. Can anybody offer the first olive. Time is so short.

R85, we doubt you would conduct your own life in the face of familial monstrosities intruding on your pleasant life for cash with a question of whose responsibility it is to stop.

That couple turned things into what they are. Completely and irrevocably. They are dangerous in political terms (less now than before) and repugnant in family terms. They have demanded apologies from the family. They are what needs to be cut, as one must in the worst cases of human interaction. It's what one does with the fanged and deranged.

And withholding the grandchildren from the family is the central proof, in that immoral, manipulative, willfully cruel manner of the psychologically incurable.

Although, of course what you want, is the point. Unless you're a smart troll. "Olive" was a bit much.

No, I never liked the whore, the picture of them going public...she was so fake in it. Also all the stories of her being a CUNT to employees and even the Queen had to step in to defend the employee. The CUNT was just yelling at the poor girl for whatever reason and the Queen said, we don't do things like that here....I believe she was berating the poor girl for the vegan food for wedding or something...

Oh, and R100 is pure troll.

The DL has been showered from its start with bits of asshole. I doubt that any of them were heirs to any throne except Mom's cushioned toilet seat with the heater.

[quote]I would hate for complete strangers to feel bold enough to opine of a rift with my family.

R8, would you please provide an image and explanation of the "incomplete strangers" we infer from your post?

Or are you stump-philic?

r103 when you're royalty things are different.

Lady Colin Campbell at r98 is constantly promising BIG REVEALS which rarely come.

Apparently TMZ is reporting that Harry is flying back to the UK today to "demand" a meeting with Charles and William. Right.

[quote]uses tone of the private helicopter more than any other royal to go ... to football games

Some of those were work-related, as the president / patron of the FA.

I look forward to the day that William is king and these two finally get all that they deserve. It was pretty clear what kind of person Harry's wife was from the get go, William tried to warn him, and it has all been proven 100% true. Harry has really put his family through the wringer and unjustifiably.

If you have a dysfunctional sibling, there comes a time when you've finally had enough of their shenanigans and go into protection mode for your family and your own sanity.

Fuck Harry.

Harry is toxic

And, I should add from experience, this get worse once they get married because they always marry someone even more dysfunctional than they and they'll make life complicated and unpleasant for everyone, meanwhile, their spawn are growing into a personality disorder beasts. All along, everyone else is the problem.

- R109

why do people like him shift blame all the time and never accept the consequences? They are just so ungrateful and does not appreciate anything...

Charles was not that close to the boys, R73. He was busy with Camilla.

Sorry, R79.

I still can enjoy some of Lady C C's venom, but have stayed far away from her shit online because she is a Trump and Putin sympathizer, a British MAGA cunt, and a hater of free Ukraine.

About the interview, Buckingham Palace issued a statement:

"All of these issues have been examined repeatedly and meticulously by the courts, with the same conclusion reached on each occasion."

It would have been great if they had issued that with a "rolls eyes" emoji.

^^^Charlotte would have totally included that emoji.

[quote]R86 why does this have anything to do with what you want?

Because the royals are snugly and greedily fastened to the public teat! The taxpayer calls the tune.

He's fugly - discard.

As soon as Charles gives in Harry and grifter wife will ask for more outrages concessions. Charles and William hold your ground-Harry is dead.

Harry is the worst parts of Princess Diana.

r50 They had had gems and such sewn into their clothing such that many of the bullets just glanced off.

C'mon you blame the kid. Daddy had to wait until he was 80 to be KIng and he turns into a Royal Bitch.

I don’t think Harry would want to be with Meghan if she didn’t affirm his paranoia and grievances. It’s probably why he married an American in the first place. Can you imagine a Brit (or a Chelsy Davy) putting up with his constant whinging? We Americans want to affirm your feelings and let you speak your truth.

Meghan and Harry are perfectly suited to each other. She is the manipulator and he is manipulatee. He thinks that she is slaying his dragons while, in reality, she is pouring oil on the fire of his discontent. To have made sure Harry was isolated from her father, sister, and brother, and his father, brother, and sister-in-law is no small achievement. I hope he's good in the sack because, otherwise, she has to put up with a lot to become a royal celebrity.

Just go get a fucking job, you useless parasite.

Give me some empathy and compassion you evil vipers. My necklace was broken and I fell on a dog bowl.

He is really isolated from his entire family except for his York cousins. He also apparently has little contact with his longtime friends. The only friends he has now are probably friends he shares with Meghan as a couple.

If she dumps him (as she does to people she no longer needs), he is going to have a really rough time. She really no longer needs him. She got the Diana and Queen DNA for her kids and the title. She can now make money on her own. She probably longs for some handsome man who's intelligent enough to carry on an interesting conversation (and who has all his hair).

This fall—Sept or Oct—will be the real critical point: will Netflix renew their contract? Harry still has BetterUp and Invictus paying him but Megs will be high and dry except for her jam empire which has a lot of upfront costs. Look for her to be frantically scrambling later on in the summer.

^^^Her scramble will be a divorce. Everything she has done has failed. Her only grift left is getting Harry's money. It is going to be very ugly so she can write a tell all book and do interviews about how she was victimized because of racism. Like all Narcissists, she's two steps ahead of everyone, even if those two steps are stupid.

They’re all freaks in their own show—on all sides. You get what you pay for.

I wonder what Lady C knows? She was the first person to announce that the Queen was dead hours before the official announcement, and also that she had bone cancer

She’s a regular Cassandra

[quote] I hope he's good in the sack because, otherwise, she has to put up with a lot to become a royal celebrity.

I imagine it being a Charlotte Lucas/Mr. Collins situation, i.e., she doesn't have to put up with him much. She's busy with her "work", meeting up with her newly acquired Montecito rich bitches, beauty treatments and workouts, telling staff what to do ...

He's probably scheduled in for lunch slots and the occasional date night. And the lion's share of the child care when nanny is off duty.

Thank you R73 - I was reading through this shit-show of people who sound personally aggrieved by the Sussexes and wondering if I’d somehow mistakenly landed in the Daily Telegraph comments section. As far as I can see, the only reason to feel irked is the having to cough up more money, as a British taxpayer, for this family. As for the person trotting out the “never complain, never explain” cliche - it’s absurd to think any of the royals, with the possible exception of the queen, ever lived by this adage. Rarely has a family contained so many people who feel so wronged, so hard done by. I don’t think I’ve ever heard a single member of the royal family say something truly reflective or appreciative regarding their good fortune.

R78

Does Encyclopedia Britannica work for you? It’s an easy fact to Google and besides which, it’s well known that he had hemophilia- that’s how Rasputin came to be in the Romanov’s court.

No shit— I was heckling the fact that you needed to reference a source for what is one of the universally-known facts about that family—and that you chose “Russia Beyond” as THAT source. Please now explain that Booth shot Lincoln, with sources. TIA

R137

You’re insufferable - I used that paragraph not to highlight his hemophilia but to show what a grisly death they endured. It could have been from any source.

[quote]R132 I wonder what Lady C knows?

[quote]R133 She’s a regular Cassandra

The trans have often been seen as special, sensitive spirits in other cultures… like in Native American tribes. So I’m not surprised she has these visions.

You write poorly. Take it like a man.

Um, R135:

Prince William penned, “I count myself extremely lucky to have a role that allows me to meet people from all walks of life, and to understand their full story – whatever it may be. It’s a privilege that many of us, busy with our days, don’t always afford.”

"My daughter Daisy asked Kate what it was like to be a real princess, and Kate said she's very lucky that she's very well looked after by her husband."

'As my Heir, William now assumes the Scottish titles which have meant so much to me,' the new king said. 'He succeeds me as Duke of Cornwall and takes on the responsibilities for the Duchy of Cornwall which I have undertaken for more than five decades. Today, I am proud to create him Prince of Wales, Tywysog Cymru, the country whose title I have been so greatly privileged to bear during so much of my life and duty.'

Princess Anne: "PRINCESS Anne said last night that she was "a very lucky lady" to have the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh as parents. Speaking at her 50th birthday party, the Princess Royal said she was thankful for "an accident of birth" and "pretty fortunate" to have her royal residences and hobbies.

Who's Daisy?

[QUOTE] Prince William penned, “I count myself extremely lucky to have a role that allows me to meet people from all walks of life, and to understand their full story – whatever it may be. It’s a privilege that many of us, busy with our days, don’t always afford.”

This doesn’t even make sense.

He's met poor, normal, rich people all over the world- Africa, Asia, Australia, etc. Normal people don't have that opportunity, unless they actively seek it out.

Maybe Meghan and Harry will both reveal that they are trans.

It’s cute he still refers to Charles as his father.

And just how does he understand their "full story"? That sounds beyond presumptuous, if not delusional.

He will be devastated when his father dies, even in the unlikely event Charles asks to see him on his deathbed. Harry will have to realize that after he lost his mother at an early age, he then alienated himself from his father in his father's final years. Also, William probably hates him more now than ever for giving their father so much anxiety and pain while Charles wrestles with his illness.

I just don't see how William and Harry reconcile. They don't need each other. Both are grown men with their own families. I love my siblings but I could see circumstances where if there was a breach, in the end, you concentrate on your immediate life if you can't resolve it easily. And they're way past resolving easily. Kate might be able to facilitate some kind of rapprochement in future if there's been a Sussex divorce.

It's beyond him to grasp, but when Charles goes, Harry should avoid all the state activity and show respect for his father by attending only the family service like was given the Queen at Windsor, before burial. But no doubt he will be under significant pressure to get as much attention as possible.

I could imagine Harry demanding to be very visible at his father's state funeral, though, and bringing his wife and children. They would likely have a harder time sidelining him at that one than they did at the queen's funeral.

I cannot imagine Harry and Meghan at William's coronation.

And I'm sure he would love to be free of Meager Muckle

Oh come on R141, that’s Oscar-Acceptance-Speech-style blather. I’ve heard more reflective, penetrating, candid-sounding stuff from Miss World contestants. And just as when a Miss World contestant tells us how lucky she is and how she “wants to help the world’s children” or “end world hunger”, we know it’s an affected sentiment, so too can we recognise that heavily manicured and fussed over royal utterances and “writings” are not the same thing as a genuine feelings or insights or disclosures. I’m not saying they’re not capable of those - it’s just that the examples you put forward don’t come close.

[quote]I was reading through this shit-show of people who sound personally aggrieved by the Sussexes

*taps the sign*

"Celebrity gossip and pointless bitchery."

R152, it was asked and answered. I didn't expect anyone would be satisfied. But it's idiotic to demand they run about delivering reflections in public to satisfy your demands. Why? They do their jobs. They don't need to do Oprah too.

But curious, now, R152... what were you looking for from them? What would have satisfied you as sufficiently reflective or whatever it is or isn't they're not enough in your view?

R154 R155 - I’m not asking anything from them. I’m merely pointing out that they’ve never given any convincing indication that they’re appreciative. That guff from Prince William about getting to meet “people from all walks of life”! Pull the other one. His social circle is drawn from Debrett’s and Burke’s Peerage. Like the rest of his family, he goes to considerable lengths to make sure his contact with anyone “below the salt” is limited and very carefully stage managed. It’s as if they’re frightened that “lower-middle” or “nouveau” are contagious diseases or things that could rub off on them.

Would you expect to have a convincing indication they're appreciative, R156? If so, what would you expect to hear? You've got a strong opinion. I can't imagine what it would take to satisfy it, so educate us. What does a convincing indication they're appreciative look and sound like? You see a gap. Tell us how it would be filled.

R156 - pointing out the absence of something is not the same thing as demanding the presence of something. I’m not demanding that they be appreciative - I’m merely noting that they’re not. Indeed, every plausible behind-the-scenes account suggests a family quite unusually afflicted by ill will, jealousy, resentment over shared limelight, loathing of spouses etc etc.

I don't think William will allow Harry a prominent spot at Charles's funeral. Don't forget that it's a state occasion, not a private affair, and no doubt it has already been planned, including where Harry will be allowed to sit. And don't expect Harry or Meghan to be invited to William's coronation. I think that ship has sailed.

Yet you can't articulate how, r158. What would demonstrate sufficient presence to you? You must have some idea. Like your constant evasion of a sensible answer tells me you're a loud mouth spouting shit.

William’s statement reminded me of something a school kid might write for a book report when they didn’t read the book. Hot air.

R156 isn’t the one making claims about William, YOU are, R158. You provided a superficial, totally unverifiable statement William made and instead of showing that it proved your point you’re challenging others to prove it doesn’t. But William’s own words show what a shallow twit he is.

Biased bullshit, R161. Entirely subjective. Much like your rant. I'm done with. you morons on this one. Block is a beautiful thing.

For all I care they can spend every private moment bitching about how hard done by they are. All I expect is them not to do it publicly, which is where Harry fails. Neither you nor I knows what their private thoughts are , and it is doesn't matter.

LOL R162. Don't undermine your own argument from the get go with quotes that show the opposite of what you claim the next time.

This really sounds like Harry.

Many unempathetic comments in this thread. No matter what your circumstances, it is tough to accept if you have a parent who doesn’t love you and isn’t even very interested in you, especially if he’s the only living one you’ve had since you were a child.

^^^^ poor little prince

Money (and titles) can’t buy you love R167

But it sure as hell can buy you a hell of a lot else. if you're asking us to feel sorry for him, I think that's a bit much to ask.

Harry had his father's love until five years ago, when he started behaving like a gigantic asshole. He may well still has his love even now--it's just his father can't reconcile his son's awful behavior with his own responsibilities as monarch.

I'm using the desert dust to sop up my copious tears over Harry's terrible situation.

The poor dear.

R169 I didn’t say feel sorry, I said empathy. If you’re proud of not feeling that, no need to contradict my comment since you are agreeing with me

He is so pathetic. Harry made the choice to leave the monarchy. You don’t get to keep your salary and the company car when you leave. What he really wants is IPP status so he would have government paid security wherever he goes. All he has to do now is give 28 days notice, a threat assessment will be made and the appropriate level of security will be provided.

“Emm, emm, emm, emm, emm.” He’s such a moron.

R156 I see that you are unaware of the recent visit to Scotland.

R143 It makes sense if you have a three digit IQ.

I like Harry - good for him for blowing up this antiquated royal bullshit.

When your own dad won't talk to you - it's a fucked up system.

I'm glad he left and went his own way - he had no role to fulfill - just an empty life in dreary, damp UK cutting ribbons. Fuck that.

Harry hasn't "blown up" snything except his own opportunities and relationships. Oh well. The BRF must have been elated to see the backs of him and his puppet>master.

R139 Lady C is not “trans.” She was born with a genital malformation (fused labia.) Her parents desired a male child, raised her as such and forced her to take male hormones.

“When she reached 13, though, she began puberty – the female, hip-widening, boob-growing sort – and secretly went to her mum’s gynaecologist. However, when her mum found out, Lady Colin later told The Telegraph, she was sent to hospital ‘for the most terrifying three weeks of my life’ where she was injected, against her will, with male hormones, until her voice deepened, her nipples shrank and she developed facial hair.”

Horrible. Horrible as gay kids sent to a conversion camp.

R175 Why, then, is he clinging to royalty? Why is he wanting other people to pay for him?

To be fair his dad barely ever talked to him anyway. They don’t seem to have ever had much of a relationship and that’s on Charles. The only family members Harry seems close to are Beatrice and Eugenie.

Right. Harold whined how "his dad" never took him on bike rides like he does with Archibald. Google quickly revealed many pics of the two or three or four of them biking all over the UK Harold is a very poor liar.

[quote]To be fair his dad barely ever talked to him anyway.

Good lord, Harry's just looking for something to hang his swirling mess of indignation on. My own father ran an international corporation and travelled the world routinely, often taking my mother with him, with her reluctance to leave her 5 children (one special needs) at times. Yeah, we had a housekeeper running the show in my mother's absences. But you know what, I don't think any of us kids, now adults, feel slighted, it was just our reality. Compared to the truly heartbreaking stories I have heard from friends about their own childhood, I think Harry is making a whole lot of problems for himself. Time to adult Harry, time to adult.

r181 it also doesn’t sound like your mother died when you were 12 leaving you with a father you had a minimal relationship with who wasn’t there most of the time?

[quote] I'm glad he left and went his own way

If he had really gone "his own way," he would not be whining about security and about coming back, now, would he?

[quote] Right. Harold whined how "his dad" never took him on bike rides like he does with Archibald.

Harry and Meghan's son is named simply Archie Harrison, not "Archibald."

Good bye Prince Dumbass! May you reconcile with King William after the divorce and your shared custody arrangement.

How good of you to introduce your children to the cousins they barely know.

You could have simply blamed the press and bad media but you blamed the other family members too. Why would they ever speak to your two faced ass again!

[quote]it also doesn’t sound like your mother died when you were 12 leaving you with a father you had a minimal relationship with who wasn’t there most of the time?

A tough card to be dealt for sure, but if that's the hill you choose to die on as an adult, and as an adult continue to choose to make everyone around you miserable about it and all other perceived slights, well get some help, because there are scores upon scores of children world-wide who lost a parent in equally shocking, if not far more heinous and shocking, circumstances. We all have our demons, personality flaws, weaknesses, but only the weakest choose to make their problem everybody else's problem.

He's so dumb. "Royal duties were so hard everyone kissing our ass all the time! We had to make small talk and smile! And listen to their boring stories and pretend like we cared!"

[quote]The only friends he has now are probably friends he shares with Meghan as a couple.

That bitch has no friends. Her family hates her, and celebrities run away from her.

R186 who is around him that he’s making miserable? Meghan’s fine. His kids are fine. Charles and William aren’t talking to him so they don’t have to hear it. The public is personally unaffected emotionally.

He’s just expressing himself to an outlet that requested an interview with him. It’s not this attack on others (who?) that you’re making it out to be.

Most immature "royals" ever.

Poor Prince Harry, heir to trauma, not the throne. A life of palaces, polo, and private planes, yet somehow he’s the world’s most oppressed millionaire. One wonders how he manages to carry the crushing weight of his victimhood while juggling Netflix contracts and beachfront therapy.

He left a life of duty to build a brand of grievance, trading court appearances for podcast bookings and knighthood for keynote speeches on how hard it is to be adored by millions while misunderstood by relatives.

I do admire the boy’s courage though. It takes real bravery to survive the horrors of castles, designer suits, and people curtseying at you. He’s the Anne Frank of Montecito.

[QUOTE]it also doesn’t sound like your mother died when you were 12 leaving you with a father

Yes, a hard hand to be dealt, but his feelings of loss about his mother are probably complicated by the fact that she heavily favored William and the staff followed her lead. (Can we not forget Harry complaining in Spare how he always got fewer sausages at breakfast?) I don't think Charles had much of a hand in Harry's day-to-day upbringing.

She favored William so heavily and inappropriately that she treated him as a confidant to the point of sharing details about her romantic dalliances and bringing him, at least once, to a meeting with the press. (It was lunch with Piers Morgan where he was dumbfounded that the 14 year-old William demanded wine. In the presence of his mother, as though it were totally normal.)

Of course, Harry noticed the favoritism and his exclusion from such closeness with his mother. Diana also made some unfavorable comments about Harry's intellect. Something to the effect of "William is the smart one. Harry's like me." She had famously described herself as thick as a short plank. Harry must have gotten wind of this at some point. It's got to hurt.

It all cumulatively had to sting. I suspect he was angry with her at the time of her death and couldn't reconcile those negative feelings with the profound sense of loss. Then came the guilt. And he coped with the guilt by putting her on a pedestal and practically deifying her. FFS, he has a reliquary with a lock of her hair in it, as though she's a Catholic saint or something.

Yes, tl;dr. Short version: Diana is just as culpable for Harry's stunted development, if not more, as his perception of Charles's lack of interest and involvement.

I was 12 when my dad died unexpectedly, leading to a huge change in our lives - no money, pulled out of private school, Mum had to go to work for the first time ever, she started drinking and medicating heavily. Yeah it was a shit time, but I wasn’t still whining about it when I was 40.

With all the resources that he has had and continues to have at his disposal? He really should just shut the fuck up or book more sessions with his long suffering therapist or just go into one of his 16 bathrooms in Montecito and do his tapping therapy or fire up a couple more joints. His constant bleating is a fucking insult to those people who are truly suffering.

Oh for fucks sake. Isn't William older and bigger? Maybe they thought he would eat more. Can he really not ask for another sausage?

It's fucking sausage. Not exactly standing in line for a food bank every week.

[quote]Diana also made some unfavorable comments about Harry's intellect.

😂

R175 when ever a poster brings up “cutting ribbons” I know that I’m dealing with someone who has no fucking idea about the role and activities of the British Royal Family.

At least he has an empty life in sunny Montecito with his delightful, sincere and not-at all-shallow wife - so why is he still whining?

Sausages, broken necklaces, smashed dog bowls - he’s really focused on the big issues, isn’t he?

R196 maybe he loves and misses his father

I have to correct myself at r192. It was Paul Burrell who brought up the inequitable sausage distribution as validation of the petty jelousies that Harry brought up in Spare.

[QUOTE]Diana’s former butler Paul Burrell, who said that he once witnessed Harry being given two sausages by a nanny while William got one more. Burrell told British tabloid the Sun that Harry objected: “How come he gets three and I get only two?”

[QUOTE]Burrell said that their nanny replied: “William needs filling up more than you. He’s going to be king one day.”

[QUOTE]Burrell said: “When I look back now, I think maybe I was glimpsing the dynamic at play … Harry would fall quiet and suck it up, but that’s what he had to contend with, even in his own home.”

The father he forced away through monetising attacks on his family? Oh, that makes perfect sense!

R198 do you think that his wife loves and misses her father? Can you see a pattern here - narcs always work to isolate their mark from their close family and friends.

[quote]r148 William probably hates Harry more now than ever for giving their father so much anxiety and pain while Charles wrestles with his illness.

All Charles has to do is write a nice fat check (and a public apology) and Harry will forgive. But the old battle axe is saving all his ill gotten gold for the Bowles Woman. Pathetic.

r201, no, but her father is trash. I’m not a huge Charles fan but I wouldn’t compare them.

Lol as though William doesn’t hate Charles, he’s certainly not bitter toward Harry for causing dear old dad pain. There’s a reason you never see Will and Charles together except at huge formal events.

So much trolling on this thread!

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Where else would you see them, R204? The next time that you pop over to Highgrove for a bbq or drop into Clarence House for a G&T with Camilla?

Unless you’re friends with any of them - highly doubtful - you couldn’t possibly know.

R202 Charles has already written a nice fat cheque on their departure from the UK five years ago and as for an apology - what precisely should he be apologizing for?

R292 who is the old battle axe, what is his ill-gotten gold and who is the Bowles woman?

You sound incredibly stupid.

R196 Scooby, Scooby doo, do tell us what they do do.

Please, sir, may I have some more?

R184 There are pictures of Harry on a bike with his father.

R182 My father was an alcoholic and my mother was very abusive, physically and emotionally. I lived in a children’s home for a time.

Harry lost his mother two weeks shy of his 13th birthday. He had a distant father who did care about him and two grandparents who loved him. All of his needs were met. He was offered a world class education. He’s never had to work to put a roof over his head or food on the table. He was offered a home. Yet, still he whines. Harry is a pathetic excuse for a human being who wallows in victimhood. This man-child of 40 needs to grow up.

[quote]r177 Lady C is not “trans.” She was born with a genital malformation (fused labia.)

Then what did her period come out of? Has anyone asked her that?

What did Harry do that was so bad?

R184 Really? This is happening more and more and it’s in incredibly bad taste. Children called “Jamie” instead of “James” on birth certificates or “Sophie” instead of “Sophia”. It’s incredibly arrogant to force people to use an informal/diminutive version of a name because it thrusts them into an intimacy with you before they’re ready - if I’ve only just met someone, why would I call him Archie, as if somehow an easy informality had already been established? It’s so crass. I’m noticing it with politicians in the U.K. too - there are several “Ed”s at the last count. Such an obvious manipulation.

But I suppose in this instance, it’s not surprising - Prince Harry has always used Harry, which really should have been reserved for people he was friendly with. It should have been Henry in all public-facing aspects of his life. It’s insulting to the public to imply we’re in some sort of cosy, we’re-all-friends-here relationship with him.

Harry reminds me of Michael Jackson after he turned himself into a whinging and whining professional victim, going on and on about how he never had a childhood.

It was announced when he was born that his names were Henry Charles Albert David but that he would be known as Prince Harry.

There was precedent - Charles’s great uncle the Duke of Gloucester was also Prince Henry but everyone called him Harry. Although in those days he would only be HRH except to close friends and family.

[quote]. I’m noticing it with politicians in the U.K. too - there are several “Ed”s at the last count. Such an obvious manipulation.

Did you never hear of a guy called Tony, r216?

I agree that Harry should have been Henry. First, it would have honoured Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester and thus he might have had a greater sense of his role and duties and respected them more. Second, it "cutsifies" him and gives the impression that he was to be the "fun" one, not necessarily doing anything serious.

I was clearing out some old things in the loft the other day and came across a big fold-out royal family genealogy from about 30-something years ago. Harry was down as Henry there, so there was a period when he was a kid when Henry was still used formally, albeit rarely.

R218 While there’s certainly an unmistakable conceitedness in telling people to use a diminutive or hypocorism, regardless of whether or not they want to, going one step further and using a hypocorism like Archie as a child’s actual birth certificate name is far worse - if it’s done knowingly, it’s a horrible combination of barbarism, presumptuousness and pretentiousness, if it’s done unknowingly, it’s pig ignorant

Every child I've met in the UK named Archie has been from a chavtastic family.

R219 read R218.

Even Henry VIII was known as Harry throughout his life. Royalists need to take the sticks out of their asses. It’s a fine old English name.

[quote]None of you understand the danger I am in. If I go back to the UK, Willie might break another of my necklaces. -Harry

Yeah. So when do I get Security?

Downplaying William’s physical assault of Harry shows a wild bias. Since when is attacking one’s brother behavior befitting the heir to the throne?

We don't know what really happened. Maybe Harold, fantasist and liar, squared up first. In any event, boo hoo so sad.

[quote]Since when is attacking one’s brother behavior befitting the heir to the throne?

Say what?

Ooops, sorry r226. I quoted your post^

And still agree with r196.

Fuck you Harold!

[quote][R218] While there’s certainly an unmistakable conceitedness in telling people to use a diminutive or hypocorism, regardless of whether or not they want to, going one step further and using a hypocorism like Archie as a child’s actual birth certificate name is far worse - if it’s done knowingly, it’s a horrible combination of barbarism, presumptuousness and pretentiousness, if it’s done unknowingly, it’s pig ignorant

When you typed this, smoke must have been emitting from your ears.

Or out of his ass.

R182 My dad discovered his mother’s body after she committed suicide when he was 8 years old. Had no father in his life. Shuffled off to live with relatives. Yet, I never once heard him complain for a second about his upbringing, and we all turned out great as a family. Harry should take note.

r225 Oh shut up. He pushed him and ripped his necklace in the process and Harry's ass squashed a dogbowl. He didn't slam his head repeatedly in the oven door.

[quote] Even Henry VIII was known as Harry throughout his life. Royalists need to take the sticks out of their asses. It’s a fine old English name.

Well said, r223!

“Cry ‘God for Harry, England, and Saint George!’”

If it’s good enough for Henry V, it’s good enough for this oik!

I listened to Meghan’s interview on the podcast with the cosmetics billionaire. It was ludicrously dull and banal. One thing jumped out…unprompted, she talked about how much Harry loves her. It was an odd proclamation—completely unprompted by interviewer.

It occurred to me that he might be cheating on her and she knows the news is about to break. So proactively discrediting with declaration of his love for her.

Just me reading the tea leaves! Could only be her need to push the narrative of how universally adored she is.

My dad’s mom tried to kill him with a spear(!) when he was 5. She was nuts, obvs. Every time he’d tell the story it was with great comic effect. I’m sure it wasn’t funny at the time but he was able to laugh at it as an adult. I know many others who experienced terrible trauma and they don’t make it their career to bitch and moan nor do they expect their parents to finance their lazy ass when they’re 40 years old.

If Harry had showed anything approaching dignity or loyalty to the family he claims to love, and if he had left royal life and headed to America to live quietly while selling jam to a grateful nation or just giving speeches to audiences eager to hear his expertise and wisdom, then I think most people would have been much more sympathetic to him.

But he didn’t do that. He has attacked and bitched and moaned for 5 years now. He has sold his birth-family’s privacy while attacking the media (and his father-in-law) for breaching his own privacy. He has amassed a huge fortune by doing so, and from his various non-jobs which he is qualified for only by virtue of his bloodline. Honestly, would anyone be jumping to employ him if he were anyone else, given that he scraped the barest minimum level of school qualifications after an Eton education costing several hundred thousand pounds?

And having amassed his fortune, he thinks other people with none of his advantages should be paying for his security costs, for life wherever he is on the planet. Honestly, I used to feel quite sorry for him, but I really now wish he would just disappear into the life of pointless luxury his wife aspires to live.

[quote]There’s a reason you never see Will and Charles together except at huge formal events.

and that would be on account of no media being allowed at private (read: family) events, unless specifically authorized

My parents both died in a plane crash when I was a baby. I was also in the plane crash. I crawled out over glass and jet fuel and suckled from a wild mountain wolf who taught me to hunt to survive. Eventually I grabbed onto the feet of several eagles who flew me to civilization where I taught myself English and computing overnight so that I could be here on Datalounge talking to you.

I NEVER COMPLAIN & NEVER EXPLAIN!!! HARRY IS WEAK 🙄

People like him don't think they have done anything wrong....

R 240. Nice try. Losing a parent is vastly more common than your little story. His mother's death also came without any economic hardship as it would have in many homes.

Harry might’ve be better off if he had gone to Gordonstoun rather than Eton. Although apparently its hardships were greatly exaggerated. Zara Phillips went there.

[quote]Lady C is not “trans.” She was born with a genital malformation (fused labia.)

Whew... that would need some Febreeze.

Unafraid to sound stupid, gotta say R238 just made a bell go off for me. All of this is about attention. More than the spare, he's Jan Brady. This is all about his need for whatever he feels is lacking in his family background. I used to think it was about arrogance and being duped by Montecito Simpson, but the truth is, he's just a needy chick. I doubt they could ever do enough to put it right, but if they could, he'd go hotfooting it back tomorrow.

But I just wanted you to love me as much as William!!!!!

^ and an equal amount of sausages.

Just because...

Camilla: Red wine. It's on the way. It's all I drink. Just what the doctor ordered. It's very good for you. You don't want one too, do you? Are you sure?

(Not Tracey Ullman, the Camilla... marvellous....)

Meanwhile, the good son, William, his angelic wife and beautiful children all served and honored their country, in sharp contrast to the vile Sussex crew.

Kate just misses flawless here, but it's really only a personal nit-pick.

The color of her dress is a bit too heavy for early Spring. That's an October or November color.

Quite small tits!

She can't have had to have a bag. Everything she wears is so form fitted. She was in skinny jeans still in the Scotland pictures last week.

[quote][R175] when ever a poster brings up “cutting ribbons” I know that I’m dealing with someone who has no fucking idea about the role and activities of the British Royal Family.

True, R196. We all know the REAL purpose of the RF: to sell arms.

R247 Camilla totally on message.

Harry (most likely pressured by Meghan behind closed doors) just wants some kind of win at this point, which he and his wife would weaponize as "See?! We were right all along!" But even if they won the security thing in court, they would still look like assholes because they don't spend time in the UK. They moved to CA. They have money to pay for all of the security they need in the US. If they were on speaking terms with the rest of the RF and were visiting the UK all of the time, I am sure they would be provided appropriate security for the trip. But they aren't, and we all know why, so... Back to the drawing board, Meghan. You will need to dig up some juicy nugget that hasn't already been weaponized against the RF in the media to try and punish them for not bowing to you, again. Perhaps the "arsenal" has already been exhausted, however.

[QUOTE]She can't have had to have a bag

Transient Ischemic Attack?

Dear goodness. What is Sophie wearing at r248? An oversized, pink gingham, floor length coat?

^ Forgot the link.

[quote]if it’s done knowingly, it’s a horrible combination of barbarism, presumptuousness and pretentiousness, if it’s done unknowingly, it’s pig ignorant

Well, that’s Markle.

Well, Harry's set up an impossible standard for Charles to prove his love to him. Does he really believe he has the omnipotence to influence the government and RAVEC this way? At least he's proved his love for Meghan at the cost of ~ $2M.

I wonder how much their monthly security bill is. Musk's latest vessel, who was featured in a WSJ article about him and his harem, claims her 24 hour security is $100K per month. This for two in an NYC apartment. A family of five on a sprawling property must cost a small fortune.

R216. We are still waiting on your extended diatribe against the family of the Duchess of Edinburgh…you know, that crazy old “Sophie!”

Tick tock—time’s a wasting.

They don’t need security. Meghan actively repels people.

R243 Zara is much younger than Charles. The school evolved. I really think Harry would have done better there.

R214 I guess you missed the point about male hormones.

Surely they could unfuse her labia??

Zara’s a nickname for Sarah, correct?

No that's her given name.

The name is a variant, duh

R240 you really should write a book about that, it’s absolutely incredible that you ever survived the plane crash never mind everything else that happened to you as a child.

Talk about triumph over adversity, you are an inspiration to us all. Sending you hugs.

It’s an awful thing to say but I can’t wait for these two to go broke. Can you imagine the fabulous shit show of it all, having to sell their big house, no security, Meghan in talks with QVC to sell her jam etc…

Camilla at R247 is exactly what we want from her. And here the prevailing wisdom was that she was always marinated in G&T.

Especially the way that she went out of her way to put the veteran at ease ordering a glass of red at afternoon tea and offering his military carer one too.

She’s a good egg.

Rotten-weiler

[quote] R249 Kate just misses flawless here

[quote]R250 Quite small tits!

Could be where the cancer was.

Major ABDOMINAL Surgery

Still trying to kill Kate off R272? Why do you feel the need to do that?

Folks keep saying he should try to reconcile in private but how’s he supposed to do that if Charles won’t speak to him? A public plea is the only choice at that point and if Charles is too cold to listen or too isolated to even hear it, that’s on him.

R275, Harry should publicly apologize to Charles and the rest of the family for the lies that he and Meghan have told and for their other antics and then try to reconcile in private, so a combination of the two.

R249, the colour of her dress is perfectly appropriate for a VE Day commemoration, especially when most of the people around her were wearing military dark blues and browns.

Exactly, r276. If Harry really wants to reconcile then he should apologise and acknowledge his mistakes. His "public appeal" was nothing to do with wanting to reconcile with his father - or brother - and all about pushing his narrative of being the only wronged one. It really backfired this time.

Harry Antoinette...

"He needs unconscious pious training." Haha good one

Has anyone in media so explicitly pointed out Harry's dull intellect before?

[QUOTE]This involves a change of mindset in a mind that is somewhat hard to describe as quick on the uptake.

[QUOTE]This is like burning your bridge, then someone building you a new $120m bridge, and you deciding to burn that one down too because you’re too stupid and rude to understand how to behave.

Not to mention... why don't you paint an even bigger target on your family's back for every wack job, extremist group, etc but running around publicly saying you have no security?

[quote]Has anyone in media so explicitly pointed out Harry's dull intellect before?

Ha! She went in studs-up on his dumb ass.

Somewhat surprised the Guardian, previously balls to the Wall pro- Meghan 'til the end, circled back around.

One has to wonder about the As Ever, Archewell, et al.'s "branding" and PR folks' new and frantic activity to keep Duchess Meghan seem many things she IS NOT that even her greatest supporter, the Guardian, isn't only claiming fake and messy.

But that she rather enjoys stepping on squirming and uncomfortable underlings means that Meghan, despite providing an iced fruit machine, was truly seen as the ogre she is by a left-leaning paper.

Marina Hyde, who wrote that article, is not just a journalist but also co-presenter of the podcast The Rest is Entertainment with Richard Osman. They both have experience as writers and producers in TV and the podcast is about how the whole system works, from foley up to executive decision-making. So she has a high-level understanding of all the levers Harry has pulled, and the alternatives that were available to him. Also, her father is a baronet, so she understands aristocratic norms.

In other words, she is in an uncommonly fine position to take aim at this particular soft yet deserving target.

He is so sure he’s entitled to RAVEC protection—he’s a prince!. And if he wants to be half in and half out, the BRF had no right to deprive him. Actually, it wasn’t the Queen’s decision, it was one of her evil courtiers (she was easily persuaded in her dotage). He’s going to Reveal All.

Thank you for posting that R284 and R285. A really good article and very helpful to know the background of the person who wrote it.

Harry needs to be much hotter for me to put up with his nonsense.

So, Harry, who claims to be so concerned about his security while in the UK, not only opened the door to a Deliveroo food delivery guy when staying at a friend's in London, he also went up and down his friend's street, knocking on all the front doors because he couldn't remember which house was his friends, being captured on many people's Ring cameras.

I don't believe for one second he was staying with a friend in this scenario. He couldn't recognise the house, didn't know the address, didn't have a set of keys and didn't have the friend's phone number. Something else entirely had been going on

What a f*cking dimwit! Not only does this show that he can walk around a London neighborhood unmolested. It demonstrates his utter stupidity at not remembering something as simple as a friend's address, or (if he had been there before) what the house looks like.

She must be as equally stupid to have married such a dimwit.

[quote] “It’s a bit odd he didn’t seem to have a clue which house he was aiming for,” the neighbor is reported as saying. “I don’t think many people would just walk down a road knocking on doors.”

Well he's outdone himself with this weirdness. The 40 year old son of the king seemingly completely unattended wandering around Hammersmith knocking on random doors supposedly trying to find his friend (yeah right).

Looking to score, more likely.

Maybe he lost it.

[quote]Looking to score, more likely.

Bingo!

Having to do his own coke pickup... And fucking it up that badly.

"Meghan told me there are these things called doorbells, which are basically buttons you press which compel people to open their doors for you. I was fascinated by the concept!"

"Meghan, ok, you'll laugh when I explain what happened"

If he had the kind of professional armed security the Met police offer to IPPs, the kind he wants, he wouldn't be able able to run out to score.

Harry no longer has friends. He only has "friends". The kind whom you would not know their address because you had never been there before. Or maybe you were there late the night before and left something important behind and then had to try and retrace your steps the next morning and couldn't remember exactly which house it was. Those kind of "friends".

A lot of people have pointed out the video looks like it was early in the morning and he's got a scraped nose as if he'd fallen over/got into a fight.

R291 Just say no to drugs. Harry’s “friend.”

Where's muh drugs?

He recorded the BBC interview after that and if you look at it, he does kinda have a suspicious looking light round patch on his nose that could be makeup.

[quote]r301 A lot of people have pointed out the video looks like it was early in the morning and he's got a scraped nose as if he'd fallen over/got into a fight.

Maybe someone(s) sat on his face the night before?

[quote]The 40 year old son of the king seemingly completely unattended wandering around Hammersmith knocking on random doors supposedly trying to find his friend

Seems to me I saw this in a movie one time...

Hugh had his driver / bodyguard / whatever with him. But Harry, Mr. "I Need Security," looked to be flying solo.

There may be a bodyguard or a driver, r307 (a head appears over his shoulder). Theoretically, then, Harry is quite able to do what he needs to do with the level of security he already has in the UK.

You’d think a driver/hired security would know or be able to find out where Harry was supposed to be going.

I stand with my theory above (I'm R300) that he had probably been at some kind of late hours party/hook up/drug thing the night before, left something behind, and had to go looking for the house to retrieve his lost thing but couldn't remember which house it was.

The NY Times has an article about this family rift in today’s paper. The thing that struck me most were the photographs.

I hadn’t seen pictures of William or Catherine in ages and they both look terrible — William’s beard accentuates his drawn, haggard features, and Catherine looks visibly aged. Both look exhausted and seem to suddenly be aging badly.

King Charles looked as usual in the lead photo of the article, but I didn’t realize he gets some sort of undisclosed weekly treatments for his cancer. This lead me to wonder if he gets weekly blood tranfusions as well as oral medication for leukemia?

That was a typically stupid, America-centric article in the Mew York Times about the British royal family.

[quote] Some royal watchers warn that unless Charles finds a way to heal that rift, it could define his reign, undercutting the messages of tolerance and inclusiveness that he has long championed.

What on earth is the basis for this claim? Does anyone beyond a tiny minority in Britain care about whether Charles is speaking to Harry. To the extent anyone thinks of it, nearly everyone agrees it’s good that he’s gone and no one wants to pay for his security. Does this idea exist outside the author’s tiny brain?

Publications and people reveal their siding with Meghan and Harry whenever they say that Charles or William should do anything. It's the same as if someone said on December 8, 1941, that the U.S. and Roosevelt must find a way to heal the rift with the Empire of Japan and welcome them back.

R312 pay for his security? You all don’t pay for his security when he is living as an American citizen.

Charles should heal the rift?

What unbelievable irony. The Times has absolutely no criticism of the dimwitted prince and his wife. They treat her as if she were the Second Coming.

Instead of wandering up and down a London street knocking on random doors, the dimwit should reach out with an olive branch to his family

[quote] I hadn’t seen pictures of William or Catherine in ages and they both look terrible — William’s beard accentuates his drawn, haggard features, and Catherine looks visibly aged. Both look exhausted and seem to suddenly be aging badly.

She's had a serious bout with cancer, and he's been worrying over that, plus he's also worrying over his father, who is dying of his cancer. Plus, when his father goes, they will both inherit enormous responsibilities and they will rarely have time to see their young children. So of course they look drawn and haggard.

As a daily reader of the NY Times since the early 90s I know they won't be seen to take sides against the Sussexes, although that piece from the author of the interview with Meghan from a few weeks ago was nearing shady.

[quote]that piece from the author of the interview with Meghan from a few weeks ago was nearing shady.

Got a link? I love shade.

I love people who lift their fat fingers and search Google.

Did the NYT allow comments on today's article? Here's the article Della references. People get all aflutter about the Sussexes.

[QUOTE]We decided to keep the article’s comments section closed, a call that’s made when The Times’s Audience team thinks the response will be overwhelming for our moderators. (Comments on The Times’s website are vetted before they are posted, not to curb opinions, but to filter out profanity and hate speech.)

[QUOTE]Even so, the response was ferocious. The week after publication gave me a sense of what it’s like to live in the spotlight that follows Meghan everywhere.

[QUOTE]Emails from readers began pouring in, and comments spread on social media. Many were filled with passion, some with praise and others with personal attacks on both me and Meghan. Some wrote in to call me incompetent, misogynistic, embarrassing to The Times — and worse.

[QUOTE]Some people incorrectly assumed that I had accepted compensation from Meghan’s team for writing the article. (I did not. Accepting payment for an article is unethical and against The Times’s policy.) Several claimed the article was inaccurate, charges The Times takes very seriously, but they declined to specify what I had gotten wrong. (No corrections were issued.) Some accused me of writing a puff piece; others, of writing a hit piece. That happens sometimes, but I rarely hear both complaints about the same article.

Harry's wandering around a London street looking for an address when he is away from home (and Meghan) introduces so many possibilities. Has the Sussex camp explained the situation? They probably won't because it's impossible to explain away.

R321 It would be very easy to explain away, but they won't. That would involve telling the truth.

Now that Meghan has put out pictures of their romantic evening at the Beyonce concert, they expect the crazy episode to be forgotten.

So we're pretty agreed Harry was out looking for his drug connection.

Can't he have a servant go out to procure the drugs for him, like his grandmother Elizabeth II always used to do ?

Nobody believes anything Meghan says, or anything she orchestrates through the media. She seems to have entirely convinced herself that the general public ('peons' in her mind I assume) are unable to discern her true motives.

William and Catherine look great on their recent trip to the Isle of Mull and they - and the locals who met them - seem to have had a fantastic time.

The Waleses do not look drawn and haggard. Don't let your seething jealousy show so clearly, dear.

This reminds me so much of when Truman Capote deeply offended his former friend Babe Paley (then dealing with Stage 4 cancer) by publishing "La Cote basque" in ESQUIRE, revealing that her husband, William S. Paley, was cheating on her. Capote called up the Paleys' house to talk about it with her, and Bill Paley answered the phone and said, "I'm sorry--my wife can't come to the phone for such trivial things. Maybe you haven't heard, but she is very ill." He hung up, and that was that. Capote never got to speak again to Babe before she died.

i would like to see Camilla do the same thing to Harry.

[QUOTE]She seems to have entirely convinced herself that the general public ('peons' in her mind I assume) are unable to discern her true motives.

Let us review how this fits into a person seized with a lifelong Narcissistic Personality Disorder (and these are only 5 of 9 criteria). To them, the peons are inferior and incapable of understanding Meghan's true, special nature.

1. Grandiose sense of self-importance: Has an inflated sense of their own importance, [bold]believes they are unique or special, and expects to be recognized[/bold]

2. Preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love: [bold]Dwells on fantasies of achieving great wealth, fame, or recognition[/bold]

3. Belief that they are special and unique: Feels entitled to special treatment and [bold]believes they can only be understood by others of high status or exceptional abilities.[/bold] (Peons are shit, IOW.)

4. Need for excessive admiration: Requires constant admiration and attention, and [bold]feels slighted when not receiving it.[/bold] (When peons fail to deliver)

5. Sense of entitlement: [bold]Feels entitled to special favors and privileges, and expects others to fulfill their wishes without question.[/bold] (Especially the ungrateful Kensington Palace peons after she brought in a frozen dessert machine just for them)

What have I missed? Oh:

Everybody FAILED the Sussexes completely, totally and abjectly. Why? Because they misunderstood and thus failed the Duchess because of their horrific envy.

8. Envy of Others or Belief that Others are Envious of Them: They may be envious of the achievements or possessions of others, or believe others are envious of them. (Who wouldn't want her life with the dim party prince?

[quote] youthful idiocy in princes is usually forgiven.

This article takes the cake. "Youthful idiocy in princes"? The man is 40-years-old.

And it is the "youthful" prince and his bride who stepped away but who continue to demand the perks of the positions.

40 is the new 28. 60 the new 45. Get with the times.

Can we talk about his hair? Why does it look from the front like he's had plugs put in, but from the back he has a monk's tonsure? Are hair transplants done in stages?

R330, Sykes is an asshole about Charles:

[quote]Kings are expected to be wiser, and the failure to get Harry back inside the royal tent reflects exceptionally poorly on Charles.

Charles has cancer, and Harry is a cancer. They're better off without him.

Sykes lost me at “Princess Kate”.

Being king does not mean you can control everything. In fact, as a constitutional monarch, Charles has extremely limited power. Also, within a family, you can control adult children only so much.

Sykes said recently on a Daily Beast podcast that the first chapters of Spare were some of the greatest writing ever.

R314 Perhaps you missed the dim Prince’s recent interview. He wants IPP status.

[quote] You all don’t pay for his security when he is living as an American citizen.

He's not an American citizen, R314. Americans cannot accept gifts or foreign titles without the consent of Congress, according to the constitution. Yes, we might have an imbecile in the White House doing that, but the children of the Mountbatten-Windsors should not be titled if they are American citizens.

The DM is reporting on their new staff structure. Scrolling through, I was baffled by the number of chiefs of staff, marketing/branding experts, communications people they are apparently employing. These people are "aligning" strategies and "liaising" between their "household" and the As Ever brand. Supposedly Harry is going to be launching some kind of commercial venture, God help us.

Here’s a link to the DM article. A confusing mish mash of staff, some with “six figure salaries”. Then there’s the person addressing the “supply chain issues “ of As Ever. Which is ridiculous. What business produces a “limited edition “ for the purpose of selling out immediately. But still took orders knowing the initial offering was going to be restricted, still hasn’t restocked and now customers are expected to wait until fall. “Supply chain issues” my aunt fanny, it’s pure incompetence.

R340 “Supply chain issues” my aunt fanny, it’s pure incompetence. It isn’t incompetence. It’s a PR campaign of market expectation manipulations. It should be illegal.

Those two are over. The whole world now knows their superficiality, sense of self-importance, and relentless need to present themselves as victims. It's all rather tedious at this point. They're not even amusing because they are so transparently vacuous.

[QUOTE]'Invictus will always come first, but he has also been working on commercial ideas of his own.'

Oh, no. Will they be as bonkers as interviewing psychopaths like Putin and Trump about their childhood traumas?

R340, there’s nothing like creating a “Royal Household” style of organization, with his-and-hers “Chiefs of Staff,” to help with the perception that they are out of touch with reality.

A story quietly dropped in the last week that Charles did take a call from Harry recently, after the NY Times interview, and that when Harry made it a harangue the king quietly left the line.

I've no intention of buying any As Ever bullshit, but I just visited the site and see that everything is still sold out.

At first, I suspected they held back inventory to give the impression that they received an avalanche of orders and sold out immediately. But now I think it's complete incompetence. They've been sold out for almost 2 months with no restocking and no new products.

Honest to God, can these nitwits do anything right? There was a lot of interest in her stuff when it was was first launched...from fraus who love her and from haters who want to make fun of her. Does her crack(head) team think anyone is going to routinely check-in to see if there's new stuff? (Well, I did but for DL research purposes only!) Even if she did have stock, how many people are going to return to buy another jar of her overpriced jam or crepe mix?

She's wasted driving any traffic from her cooking show and, as far as I can tell, no one is listening to her new podcast.

Why in the hell did they not launch with a full inventory? Instead 6 or so products that no one will be motivated to repurchase--only buy as a curio. And no hint of what else she's selling in the future...or when that future will become reality.

R346 While I don’t think they ever planned to go out with full inventory, I fully agree with calling them incompetent.

If they only produced quantity “X” for the launch, intending for it to sell out quickly, then you would produce X times 2 or 3 and place the balance in a warehouse to be trotted out say 4-6 weeks later. The fact that they apparently didn’t do this is absolutely incompetence in action.

Unless it’s sitting in a warehouse and planned to be released with the fake “Season 2”.

I’d love it if someone will compare the code dates on some of the old and new products to see if indeed it was all manufactured at the same time.

"At first, I suspected they held back inventory to give the impression that they received an avalanche of orders and sold out immediately. But now I think it's complete incompetence."

I think both are true. H&M can't get anything right. But, of course, it's never their fault...

I think the As Ever stuff was just a way of branding herself a "female founder" and lifestyle influencer, rather than being a viable business. Maybe with the hope that somebody would give her a lucrative licensing deal.

Yeah, it's just a vehicle for her to claim to be a "founder" and have her own "brand" and all that emanates from that. It also gives her the opportunity to join Instagram.

[quote]The DM is reporting on their new staff structure.

Their brand is essentially like the Titanic at the bottom of the ocean, and after a short time their new staff will come to realize that no team will be able to raise it.

I wonder if their having separate chiefs of staff reflects a de facto separation -- perhaps they have had enough of each other but have concluded that they can't show the world they are separated because it would destroy both their brands.

[QUOTE]like the Titanic at the bottom of the ocean, and after a short time their new staff will come to realize that no team will be able to raise it.

But we can visit it!

-Crack Team at Ocean Quest

How long until one of the new team walks out? I give it a month and it’ll be one of Madame’s.

This is right up there with wanting to interview Putin and Trump about their childhood trauma or asking the Bidens if the could hitch a ride back on Air Force One from the Queen's funeral.

[QUOTE]Prince Harry spoke with his uncle Charles Spencer about the idea of taking his late mother Princess Diana's surname for his family, PEOPLE understands

[QUOTE]Harry allegedly discussed the idea of the name change with his uncle, the 9th Earl Spencer, who is the younger brother of his late mother, Princess Diana, during a rare visit to the U.K., but was told that the legal challenges would be insurmountable.

[QUOTE]"They had a very amicable conversation and Spencer advised him against taking such a step," a friend of Prince Harry's was quoted as saying by the Mail on Sunday.

R355, He's such an asshole!

[quote] told that the legal challenges would be insurmountable

What? There's a very well established and easy method to change your name in the UK. Probably even easier for Harry since he technically doesn't have a surname and can just say he's "Harry Spencer" now and let people play along. I think the Earl just didn't want the hassle.

They're a never-ending font of gossip. Now Brooke Shields has been on a podcast dishing about a time when MM was yet again reciting her baby activist dish soap tale and Brooke had to step in to lighten the mood. Per Brooke, Meghan is "too serious and too precious."

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^ Brooke Shields being a fabulous broad.

Serena Williams is eating Meghan's lunch when it comes to business acumen, public admiration, cameo appearances, fashion, marriage, wealth, endorsements, and integrity.

I wonder if they are still friends? I imagine Serena must simply be humoring her if so.

What a disappointment! I would haunt him, except I couldn't stand being around him for very long! I think I shall go haunt the actors who played Charles, Harry, and William in The Crown instead - all much more interesting!

Agree, r357. There are no legal obstacles to changing his name to Spencer or Smith or Bloggs or anything, which is why this story has only been picked up so far by the obvious fake news generators and People magazine.

How would any of these "sources" even know what Harry says in private conversations with his uncle?

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The DM trolled Meghan expertly with detailed reporting on how often she mentions her dish soap story.

It's nice to know the DM is good for something!

Here’s the Mail+ article:

'When the princess-thing didn't work out, she reverted to the person she was when [Harry] found her,' said my source, who is close to Meghan. 'She's trying to say she's exceedingly normal, which she isn't. It's all very LA actress.'

But what about these plummeting polls and failing ventures?

'It's glaringly obvious she doesn't get it,' I'm told. 'It proves people don't really change and all along she just wanted to be an influencer and TV star.'

If Harry thought his American wife was going to be Miss USA, he's sorely mistaken. Remember those 2020 rumors about Meghan considering a run for the US Senate? PTA president would be a stretch now.

Frankly, I think it's sad. These moneyed Montecitans whispering behind Meghan's back must feel like a devastating blow to a woman who seems like she's finding it impossible to fit in anywhere.

When I was at the grocery checkout last night, this was the National Enquirer on the magazine rack.

She's blissfully unaware. That clip of her crapping on about how Mindy should know she's named Sussex now showed how out of touch she is. She's so determined to get her points across. That monologue was nasty and a truly terrible performance.

Anything negative she notices will be blamed on other people.

R361, Serena Williams actually has talent and is famous because she is brilliant at her sport and has achieved amazing things. What is Meghan's talent and what did she do to become famous? What has Meghan achieved?

R367 I remember when the Enquirer was $1.25.

I stopped buying it when it went over $2.

There's a new twist to the story about Harry planning on changing his family's name to Spencer and this time it's in the anti-royal but supposedly credible Guardian. In this version Earl Spencer was enthusiastic about the proposed name change.

According to "one source" the Guardian spoke to, there was supposedly a delay in issuing passports to Archie and Lili because the applications had included the titles HRH for both children. Yet, in the next sentence the article says that the applications also included the name Spencer. If there was a delay then it's more likely because the applications were completely incomprehensible and included several inconsistencies.

In any case, Archie already had a passport in the name of Mountbatten-Windsor, so why did he need a new passport and why couldn't Lili also be Mountbatten-Windsor?

Supposedly, according to a source

[quote]“the king hadn’t wanted Archie and Lili to carry the titles, most of all the HRH, and the British passports, once created, would be the first and perhaps the only legal proof of their names”.

Which supports what I've long suspected, i.e. that it had been planned by the late Queen/Charles that Harry's kids would not use the titles prince/princess and HRH, just as Edward's kids don't, but in the end Charles relented after Harry's whining. If Archie already had a passport then the only reason his parents would be applying for a new one after his grandfather had become king would be to have him documented as HRH Prince Archie (or, if the Guardian is to be believed, as HRH Prince Archie Spencer). Of course, according to the Guardian version, the dastardly civil service colluded with the palace in an attempt to derail the kids' names being legally registered in this way - as if a simple passport application could change the legal form of their names from what it had been before their grandfather became king.

In fact, Archie already had both a UK (as Mountbatten-Windsor) and US passport (I doubt that has him legally registered as HRH Prince Archie), and there's nothing stopping Lili from having a US passport.

The Guardian article doesn't make much sense, but this wouldn't be the first time they published an anti-Charles article that was gibberish. I wouldn't be surprised if the "sources" were Harry and Meghan. Especially as the Guardian informs us that

[quote]The couple are believed to have been angered by a report in the Mail on Sunday earlier this week, which claimed Earl Spencer had advised Harry not to change his name, saying the legal hurdles were insurmountable. “It’s completely untrue,” a source said.

Anyway, it's a moot point now because Archie and Lili's parents have made sure that they have nothing to do with the British royal family, the UK, its public life and its traditions.

[quote] What is Meghan's talent and what did she do to become famous?

Fucking. Marrying.

[quote}What has Meghan achieved?

$$$$$

From the Guardian article at r371

[quote]The Guardian understands that Prince Harry wants to keep the HRH titles for his children so that when they grow older they can decide for themselves whether they want to become working royals, or stay out of public life.

Sure Harry, these two American kids who've barely met their British family and have no experience of the UK are going to jet over every now and then to do "events" as "working royals" - especially by that time in support of their uncle King William, whom their parents will hardly have taught to love and respect.

That at least goes to show that the reason for the passport application was not because the kids needed UK passports (or a new UK passport in Archie's case) but because their parents were trying to manipulate the passport application to achieve some other goals. No wonder the applications were irregular and there were delays.

Does Harry still want to interview Putin and Trump about "childhood traumaass

R373, it appears from the article that the children already had passports, but that in 2023 Meghan and Harry applied for new ones that would have the HRH, as some sort of legal "proof" of the children's status. The Palace had, after all, never confirmed that the children had acquired HRHs after the Charles became King.

I remember being puzzled by the press release that the children's full names would be 'Prince Archie Harrison' and 'Princess Lilibet Diana'. It was if their first names were 'Prince' and 'Princess' respectively. It all sounded like underhanded trickery to me.

He chose the time around the queen's death as his main character moment. Fuck him

[quote] The suggestion was a result of “sheer exasperation” and came during a face-to-face meeting between Prince Harry and his uncle Earl Spencer. He was understood to be enthusiastic and supportive of the name change.

Unbelievable! Good Time Charlie is a ditzy as his late sister was. The simple fact that the dimwitted prince considered this should permanently discount the possibility of reconciliation with his Mountbatten-Windsor relatives.

And Lilibet as a proper name is ridiculous. It's a nickname, as is Archie.

This clip will always encapsulate how loathsome these two are.

Meghan completely clueless to the fact that, no matter what you thought of the institution, Queen Elizabeth was respected and admired.

And that smirk on her face. Meghan seemed to think people would be siding with her. Oh, what a mistake that was. This is the moment that really did them in:

Weird for Harry to be going to Charles Spencer for help given that it appears he's estranged from the children from his first marriage. He didn't attend two daughters' weddings and it wasn't because he had a heart attack or would look out of place.

He has obviously thrown a fit when he lost the court case and, like the spoiled brat he is, has thrashed around trying to find a way to punish his cancer-stricken father for not unconstitutionally attempting to undermine the judiciary. Giving an interview in which he speculated about the King’s life expectancy was obviously not enough.

Honestly, he is just a wretched, thick, selfish whinger at this point. If he does change his name, all it will do is give William more ammunition to grant their disingenuous desire for privacy by removing all their titles. Let him be plain Harry Spencer and see how much appeal he has as a middle-aged man in a world where half the population wasn’t even alive when Princess Diana was around.

BBC News (World) Meghan shares new photos of Lilibet to mark fourth birthday

They're calling her HRH Princess Lilibet in the comments.

Meghan's photos with her children are always so weird, like they are doing a photo shoot for a magazine spread and these are some random kids who were brought in. Not only are the photos over-staged but she and the kids don't seem to have much of a connection.

if the kids were cuter, we'd see their faces

Did anyone read the Enquirer article. What did it say?

I didn't see anything on their website.

I saw the start of the video of her twerking in the labor ward trying to bring on Lilibet’s birth but lunged for the back button before I was too traumatised.

The twerking video is unbelievable. I mean, ok do that in your hospital room in private (remember privacy concerns!), but to record it and then unleash it upon the masses is so undignified. Even for a regular plain Jane private citizen, it's ridiculous, let alone a public person who fancies herself a royal!!

[quote]The twerking video is unbelievable. I mean, ok do that in your hospital room in private (remember privacy concerns!), but to record it and then unleash it upon the masses is so undignified

"Four years ago today, this also happened. Both of our children were a week past their due dates… so when spicy food, all that walking, and acupuncture didn’t work - there was only one thing left to do! 😂 18 h

[quote] Meghan's photos with her children are always so weird, like they are doing a photo shoot for a magazine spread and these are some random kids who were brought in.

Yep. The recent one with her daughter was staged to look like a perfume ad.

They're calling her HRH Princess Lilibet in the comments.

They can call themselves anything they like. Mules in horse harness. Everybody knows now

Hyacinth Bucket is rolling in her grave. She wouldn't be able to comprehend such indignity.

It is exactly like Meghan to have insisted on using what most people would have considered nicknames as her children's first names to show how hip she is, and then to insist they be given formal titles to show she still demands to be considered part of the Establishment.

She is always trying to have it both ways.

Tell me about it!

Are there 'Christened' first names 'Prince' and 'Princess'?

^ sorry, I actually do know the difference between their and there.... my bad

It worked for Peter Andes and Katie Price.

"The Guardian understands that Prince Harry wants to keep the HRH titles for his children so that when they grow older they can decide for themselves whether they want to become working royals, or stay out of public life."

What planet does he live on?

Harry's become a real Royal nuisance. It might be time for [italic]another[/italic] Spencer to have a little car accident...

No worries. As it is, Harold is saddled with the profound lifelong misery of marriage to Markle.

This is what happens when a one-night stand turns into a hostage situation.

Their fallout with the Beckham's has probably contributed to David being said to receive a knighthood.

Barring Trump, almost everyone the Harkles fall out with instantly seems more likeable.

I doubt it, r402. I think the change of government in the UK has more to do with Beckham getting a knighthood.

What r379 said.

And yet here's how fair I can be about the Sussexes because I dislike them both and believe the existence of social media is humanity's last act self-abasement before Earth shows us the door.

For what it is, that video is playful and cute, but paradoxically, therein lies the problem - releasing it is pure celebrity-hood, and yet they cling to and whine about what Royal perks they are, in their minds, denied by KC and William.

I've changed my mind about what I think William's approach will be once KC is dead, and he is King. I used to say he'll make sure, once Markle divorces him, that Harry is living in a van down by the river.

I think that's wrong. Now, I've come around to believing William and Kate will mete out the ultimate shade - not acknowledging their existence. Not moving to strip styles or titles. Continuing not to respond to whatever thirsty, hungry moves the Sussexes make.

After all, does the full, bright, glorious Moon acknowledge a barking dog?

Meanwhile, the Sussexes can continue to put out cute videos.

How can autocorrect add a possessive apostrophe when one wasn't needed?

[quote]Now, I've come around to believing William and Kate will mete out the ultimate shade - not acknowledging their existence.

That's the same as ignoring a highly aggressive deadly cancer. William needs to be put all emotion aside and remove all titles and styles from Harry and Meghan and their offspring and severe all connection between them and the royal family. He needs to do it for the sake of the monarchy.

[quote] That's the same as ignoring a highly aggressive deadly cancer.

Perhaps not the most tactful metaphor with this family.

R406. We'll agree to disagree.

Of course, "a highly aggressive deadly cancer" shouldn't be ignored precisely because of its deadly import.

But the analogy to the Sussexes is where I diverge. They have no import. They don't matter.

And William, Kate will treat them as such, but moreover, the rest of the world will, too.

William can't remove the titles. It would take an act of Parliament.

No, but if he asked for the removal, Parliament would likely oblige him. The Sussexes are highly unpopular in the UK--much more so than even in the US.

How could William ask for the removal of their titles, r410? He's still in the role of heir, not monarch himself, and even then it would be very difficult for the monarch to do that. It doesn't work that way. Besides, why would he or Charles want to do that, which would only be a huge hassle and make them martyrs? What you're suggesting is what would damage the monarchy. Their titles don't even mean anything - especially in the US, where they live - and they've already been banned from using the HRH, which is the important thing as it would mean that in certain circumstances they represent the King (and, by extension, Britain).

In any case, Meghan looks ridiculous referring to herself as Sussex or going to events in the US and being called Duchess. They embarass themselves more than anything else.

[quote] How could William ask for the removal of their titles, [R410]? He's still in the role of heir, not monarch himself,

Obviously I meant when he succeeded to the throne.

Since you're clearly not questioning in good faith, I see no reason for anyone to engage with you further.

Why would Charles or, later, William want to remove their titles? By keeping and using their titles, the Sussexes show their hypocrisy. That works in the crown's favor. Removing their titles would alienate some people. Why bother? Instead, let the Sussexes look like the fools they are,

The sovereign requesting an act of Parliament for a personal matter would set a precedent nobody wants. If the matter was so important the country, the government would make the move and advise the sovereign to approve it.

The removal of titles would only lead to more focus on the Sussexes. Why would William want to give them more attention and yet another platform to launch another victimization tour? No more grist for their mill.

And it would spark another media frenzy. Really, would William want that? His children will be young adults by then and any media storm about the Sussexes will inevitably catch them up somehow.

As things are going now, the dim duo don't seem to have anything going, so the Meghan released the idiot twerking video. They're going to have less and less to talk about over time.

Removal would just be more soap opera, which the monarchy neither wants nor needs.

They cheapen and demean themselves with every PR stunt. Leave them to their own devices. It's not like anything would stop them anyway. And if her last chance at money memoir is going to be bad, imagine what she might remember if she loses her title.

I assume everybody saw the video of her twerking in hospital to bring no birth?

This from the privacy couple.

Fuck off.

Apart from the lack of hospital tags etc she didn’t exactly look like a woman whose pregnancy is running overtime. Shiny washed hair, full face of makeup and a huge amount of energy to throw into the twerking. By the ninth month, and especially beyond the due date, most women who I know are fucking exhausted and can barely get off the couch.

The slut drop rang a bell when I remembered that I’d seen that other embarrassing clip where Ellen made her squat on the street outside her studio in Burbank.

Definitely trolling and for what? Doing it for the same reason as all trolls: attention.

Pathetic.

[quote]Apart from the lack of hospital tags etc she didn’t exactly look like a woman whose pregnancy is running overtime. Shiny washed hair, full face of makeup and a huge amount of energy to throw into the twerking. By the ninth month, and especially beyond the due date, most women who I know are fucking exhausted and can barely get off the couch.

Twerking in the surrogate's hospital room ....

R216, Sophie is a name in its own right. It's the French equivalent of Sophia, not a diminutive.

[quote]The removal of titles would only lead to more focus on the Sussexes.

Yes, for a time, just as having an operation to remove a cancerous tumor is a big deal until the operation is over and you recover afterward. For the long-term health of the monarchy, the people currently known as the Sussexes need to be completely severed from the BRF.

Aside from the fact that the Sussexes are not a cancer but a minor and irrelevant irritant that is best ignored, surely cancer tumours are best removed as soon as possible, yet r422 believes we should wait until William ascends to the throne - which is likely years away - for them to be stripped of their titles. If r422 really believes what he is saying then the royal family would already be dead as an institution by the time William was king.

They've already been stripped of the most significant title of HRH, so what would stripping them of the title of Duke and Duchess of Sussex achieve? Aside from hugely harming the royal family itself with this vindictive move against his brother that r422 demands of William. Parliament is also very unlikely to agree. Many MPs will believe this is an inappropriate move, there will be huge resistance against the idea that the King can tell parliament what to do. How would William even make this demand of parliament? Will he tell the prime minister to introduce a bill?

The “Charles or one day William should tell Parliament to strip their titles” queens, while well intentioned, have no idea about the relationship between Parliament, Head of Government (the PM) and Head of State (the Monarch).

I’d explain it here yet again but it will fall on deaf ears.

Apart from anything else, although the late Queen forbade their using their “HRH” titles, they didn’t stop after her death, did they? Meghan using it in a calligraphied sign off earlier this month.

The former Edward VIII was granted the style of HRH Duke of Windsor after the latter’s abdication, with the express stipulation that his wife was not to be HRH but simply “The Duchess of Windsor”. This didn’t stop the Windsors insisting on her being referred to as “HRH” (or the French “SAR”) in their French households. The British royal family simply raised their eyebrows and moved on without comment, which is what the King, Queen and their family are doing today.

It doesn't matter if Meghan or Wallis tried to slip in an "HRH" every now and then. In fact, it simply shows how desperate and bitter they are, especially Meghan who claims to be living such a wonderful life now she's freed from the shackles of the Palace but in reality craves the trappings of royalty.

They will never be HRH in the context in which it has real meaning, i.e. representing the monarch and in official contexts.

Yes R425 - that was my point.

Usually it's better if breeders wait before getting married and having kids.

But once George, Charlotte and Louis have their own kids, the Harkles plummet down the order of succession.

And that will be great.

[quote] But once George, Charlotte and Louis have their own kids, the Harkles plummet down the order of succession.

Until that happens, there’s always the terrible possibility that something could happen to William and his three children. If Harry or Archie were to become king, the monarchy is finished. Parliament needs to remove them from the line of succession.

Even if William and all his kids died, r428, neither Harry nor his kids will ascend to the throne. They don't need to be removed from the line of succession now, however - that is highly irregular, there is no cause for it, it has never happened in modern times (and I mean from the early modern period, if ever, i.e. the removal of someone and his descendants from the line of succession just because he's a prat), and will cause far more damage to the royal family and the United Kingdom than their stupid twerking videos and the general crap they spew.

As it is, the likelihood of William and his kids all dying before any of the kids has his/her own kids is extremely small, so this really is not an issue. The only people who make it an issue are peevish old gossips who are licking their lips for a new scandal to get all self-righteous over.

R429 Honestly, if the entire Wales family was wiped out, the monarchy would either end with Charles orrrrrr Parliament would amend the line of succession and invite either Prince Edward or Princess Anne to become the monarch upon the death of Charles. Harry and Meghan are far too unpopular in the UK to ever become the King and Queen.

Parliament would move swiftly to select a new monarch or abandon the system entirely and become a republic, depending on what it judged to best serve its interests. They restored the monarchy to Charles ll after Cromwell and effectively deposed James ll in favour of his daughter who reigned jointly with her Dutch husband.

There is no way Harry could keep the throne. The line of succession is Parliament's to decide if it comes to that. It would depend on who was deemed suitable to command the loyalty and affection of the nation (so as to preserve whatever Parliament would be getting out of the deal if it preserved the monarchy.) It's hard to imagine Beatrice or Eugenie in the job. You might sell Louise or Zara Phillips. If this really happened, all the conventions and precedents would be out the window.

Now that's a The Crown I'd watch. A bit insulting to those living, but also plainly never an issue for Peter Morgan.

And of course they effectively deposed Edward Vll. Duh. Forgot the best comparison of all!

Re: the titles. One of the reasons why I think the royals are hesitant to push for Harry & Meghan's titles to be removed is it sets a precedent whereby the monarchy/government could be pressured into stripping the titles of future unpopular royals calling the whole hereditary principle of monarchy into question. What I think might happen is that all non-working royals could be stripped of their titles similar to what has happened in Denmark and Sweden. This means Andrew and his daughters would also lose their titles (although it's possible William might want to make Beatrice and Eugenie working royals if his father dies before his children are ready for full time royal duties). Doing this could be called "slimming down the monarchy" and not appear as a head son attack on Harry and Meghan.

Meghan has no integrity, as she repeatedly demonstrates. She would continue to style herself as HRH even if William were to follow Sweden and Denmark in only allowing working Royals to retain their titles.

I think you mean Edward VIII, R432.

As of July 12 of this year, when Prince George turns 12, he will no longer be allowed to travel in the same plane or helicopter with his father because of royal protocols ensuring the safety of the line of succession. So the chances of all of William's children dying with him are pretty tiny.

The trouble with your reasoning, R429, is that the moment King William and his children were to die, Harry would immediately become king by the laws of the United Kingdom. Then Parliament would have to remove him as king by passing such a law. To make the law official, it would require the royal assent, that is, King Harry would have to assent to it.

I could imagine, after William ascends the throne, the government of the day might ask Parliament to pass a Regency Act which would place royal authority in someone else (let's say Beatrice or Edward or Anne) under the argument that Harry lives abroad. Some in Parliament wanted to do that in the late 1670s to keep the future James II from exercising royal authority, making his daughter Mary a regent for him. It was called the Exclusion Crisis.

Parliament could get rid of King Harry, r437. He could try to refuse to sign off a bill but then he would overturn the monarchy. I don't think you understand how creative the system can be if the need arises.

I doubt very much that parliament will do what you suggest, especially something so extraordinary. In any case, in six years George won't need a regent.

Again, the likelihood that William and his children will all die before one of the kids can procreate is minimal. Harry is more likely to die first. Moreover, Charles is still around. This all presupposes the deaths of Charles, William, George, Charlotte and Louis in the next 15-20 years, without one of the kids having procreated, plus the survival of Harry.

I'm still going to enjoy watching the Wales kids become parents. Usually I don't care for that breeder shit, but each birth will fuck with Harry. And Meghan, if she's still with him then.

Even now, you just sense that when Henry views pics of the children every passing year, his stomach churns and flips. Poor boo boo

R437 Harry would not actually be called to be a regent for any of William’s children. One doesn’t become a regent in the order of succession.

When was the last time the UK had a regent? George III wasn’t it? Like 200 years ago.

More like 300 years ago, r442.

R441, you are mistaken. Who becomes Regent in case the monarch is a minor follows exactly according to the line of succession. The 1937 Regency Act requires that the regent should be the next person in the line of succession who is: over the age of 21, a British subject domiciled in the United Kingdom, and capable of succeeding to the Crown under the terms of the Act of Settlement of 1701. Harry would be the next adult in line if William were king and were to die while George was a minor. However, it might be argued that Harry is not domiciled in the United Kingdom, in which case the next adult would be Prince Andrew and, if he were already dead, Princess Beatrice. Of course, it is possible (and perhaps likely) that William would ask the government to pass a law establishing a new set of rules for a regency naming Catherine, Edward, or Anne as Regent.

So the government amends the Act. No big whoop.

R444 really doesn't get it.

In any case, if Charles dies in the next six years, William is more likely to ask parliament (not the government) to pass a new act making Catherine regent in the unlikely event of his death before George reaches the age of 18 in 2031. This is what the Queen did, when in 1953 she asked parliament to pass an act making Philip regent to Charles in the event of her death or incapacitation.

The terms "the Queen asked parliament" or "William could ask parliament" are just formalities. Parliament would be doing this anyhow.

How does the monarch ask Parliament to pass a bill? Through the elected government. The monarch only acts through the government in a constitutional monarchy. That's how the Succession to the Throne Act of 2013, that set aside male primogeniture, was introduced.

When Charles wanted parliament to make Anne and Edward Counsellors of State, he sent a signed statement to the House of Lords requesting this.

[quote]In a statement signed by the King and read to the House of Lords, he says he would be "most content" if his sister and brother could become Counsellors of State.

The Queen did not ask parliament to pass the Act of Succession of 2013.

When the Queen asked parliament to pass the 1953 Regency Act, she sent a message to both Houses of Parliament.

[quote]Whereas Your Majesty, by Your Majesty’s Royal Message to both Houses of Parliament, has been pleased to recommend that Parliament should consider the expediency of providing that His Royal Highness the Duke of Edinburgh should be the Regent

[quote] In a statement signed by the King and read to the House of Lords, he says he would be "most content" if his sister and brother could become Counsellors of State.

It’s imperative for King William to make a statement to the House of Lords declaring that he would be most content if his brother and his brother’s offspring were removed from the line of succession.

R450, William can't do that. The monarch cannot request a change to the line of succession. Only the British government and parliament can do that, and that only with the agreement of other 15-16 countries of whom the British monarch is the head of state.

Even if William could request that, it's not imperative in any way. There's no need to change the line of succession, especially in that way and especially for no immediate reason.

It’s imperative for William to request the change in the line of succession. Request and enact are not synonyms. William can request it.

William can request it if he wants to do something insane and damage the monarchy. William isn't nuts and wants to protect the monarchy, so he won't do it. Moreover, it's highly unlikely that William even wants to change the line of succession.

It's almost certain William WILL request a change in the line of regency succession to his wife if his father dies in the next few years. He has plenty of precedent, since his grandmother did the same thing in 1953.

William will not ask for a change in the law of actual succession to the throne (which he likely could not do and would never get enacted), but the succession for the line of regency is another thing entirely.

Why is r454 deliberately confusing the selection of a regent with the line of succession to the throne?

Sure, it's possible if William becomes king before George turns 18 that, like his grandmother and great-grandfather - both of whom had underage heirs - he will seek to determine a regent for George in the case of his death or incapacitation. Like his grandmother, who selected her husband, Prince Philip, he is very likely to select his wife, Catherine, especially as she will already be Queen.

Both the regency and line of succession need to be changed to prevent the apocalyptic occurrence of Harry holding any position through either.

Okey, dokey, r457.

Older Brooke is more likeable than younger Brooke.