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Remind me why I’m supposed to hate Texas again?

I’m from Boston. I did a three city, five day work trip down to Texas last week. Flew into Austin, took the Vonlane bus to Dallas, then flew to Houston, then back to Boston.

I came in hot and almost expecting to hate the place. But it’s hard to NOT notice how clean and orderly everything is. And the fucking infrastructure. My God, the roads and the infrastructure were just beautiful.

Their property taxes must be through the roof without an income tax. But regardless, I found myself feeling a little resentful because as great as Massachusetts is, our infrastructure is nowhere near as good as what they have in Texas. So where the fuck are my taxes going?

by Anonymousreply 156May 3, 2025 1:22 AM

[quote]where the fuck are my taxes going?

Snowplows.

by Anonymousreply 1May 1, 2025 1:21 PM

And culverts.

by Anonymousreply 2May 1, 2025 1:24 PM

2/10

by Anonymousreply 3May 1, 2025 1:27 PM

It is the largest residual Plantation of the Confederate South.

Juneteenth: Who told the Ns they were freed, Day.

Texas exceptionalism is all based on racism.

by Anonymousreply 4May 1, 2025 1:31 PM

Living wage.

by Anonymousreply 5May 1, 2025 1:31 PM

Their politics is pretty vile.

by Anonymousreply 6May 1, 2025 1:34 PM

We don't hate Texas, we hate the evil motherfuckers it propagates. Like this asshole who paved the way for Trump's imperial presidency.

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by Anonymousreply 7May 1, 2025 1:36 PM

I lived in Texas and liked it a lot -- but in Boston's defense, it's a much older town with narrow old streets.

And if you had to drive in Austin on a regular basis, you might not think the infrastructure was so great. The traffic is hell and the city's still growing.

by Anonymousreply 8May 1, 2025 1:36 PM

Exactly, this is just the mirage of a fast growing city. Come back to these same areas you saw thirty years from now and let's see how much money they've spent on actually maintaining them.

by Anonymousreply 9May 1, 2025 1:40 PM

People, I had to visit THREE cities. I was only in Austin for a day. And frankly, Austin was the city that most reminded me of Boston (although they are not very similar at all).

My point is, this was largely a driving tour so I saw wide swaths of the state. I was just like, “I kind of like it here.”

But yes, the racism is an issue. I’m black and more than once, people wouldn’t enter an elevator with me alone, or else showed noticeable hesitation to do so. I thought that was kind of funny though.

by Anonymousreply 10May 1, 2025 1:44 PM

[quote]But yes, the racism is an issue. I’m black

Sure, Jan, but just in case you're not full of shit:

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by Anonymousreply 11May 1, 2025 1:47 PM

I visited Texas for the first time. Houston. Loved it. Impressive. But visiting one of their best cities isn't the same as living in a state.

by Anonymousreply 12May 1, 2025 1:50 PM

I think Houston is the ugliest major city in America. A hot, damp parking lot of a city.

by Anonymousreply 13May 1, 2025 1:53 PM

You haven't been in summer. Nor the Houston floods. Nor Austin's cedar allergy season. Haven't encountered Dallas megachurch maga fake nice pseudo-cultured I'll-pretend-I-like gays- and pray for you blondes and good old boys, who make sure you stay away from their sons. You can feel exempt from the politics if you're an outsider. The east coast infrastructure is far older and more complicated than Texas'. So if all you want to do is ride around in a car all day, you'll love it. I'm from Texas, and I will never return. I've ended friendships I've had since childhood because my old friends were unhinged by politics.

by Anonymousreply 14May 1, 2025 1:54 PM

Houston does have a great art museum, though. A couple, actually

by Anonymousreply 15May 1, 2025 1:55 PM

R10 OP - you found it funny? Are you crazy? That's reality trying to tell you something.

by Anonymousreply 16May 1, 2025 1:59 PM

Oh totally move there, OP. It sounds perfect for you. Just stay in your car (THREE CITIES) and stay away from elevators. Be sure to report back how superior MAGALAND is to a normal city in a blue state.

The trolls here are so stupid.

by Anonymousreply 17May 1, 2025 2:01 PM

R14: A friend's daughter from NJ took a job in the Metroplex. Wasn't that long before she quit and moved back: "They think they're sophisticated, but they're NOT!"

by Anonymousreply 18May 1, 2025 2:03 PM

Texas is far less creepy than most of the rest of the South, but it's creepy in its own way.

by Anonymousreply 19May 1, 2025 2:05 PM

Infrastructure? It's terrible.

And property and sales taxes are sky high.

by Anonymousreply 20May 1, 2025 2:05 PM

Lots of sophistication in Jersey, R18?

by Anonymousreply 21May 1, 2025 2:06 PM

The South is much less creepy than it used to be. In South Carolina I saw more socializing between whites and blacks people than I've ever seen in NY or Boston. There are plenty of racists up North. They're not limited to the South.

by Anonymousreply 22May 1, 2025 2:09 PM

"Infrastructure?!?!" Don't they famously have statewide power outages when the temperature drops?

by Anonymousreply 23May 1, 2025 2:09 PM

The south is by far the most fucked up region of the US. Horrific political environment if you aren't a MAGA hwhite kkkhristian.

by Anonymousreply 24May 1, 2025 2:13 PM

5 days? You’re an expert! But, in the spirit of rounding out your exhaustive, deep-dive research … property taxes are high. Education doesn’t seem to be a top priority. The labor laws favor businesses. Workers have less rights than in most states. The politics are abysmal. It’s safe to assume you’re surrounded by guns whenever you’re in public. There are, however, many virtues. I’ve met many wonderful, live & let live Texans. Polite hardworking people. Good BBQ. And, well, good BBQ. The BBQ is great.

by Anonymousreply 25May 1, 2025 2:14 PM

Mass has universal health care whereas Texas has… casual cruelty.

by Anonymousreply 26May 1, 2025 2:15 PM

OP and his replies REEK of rancid “teacake”.

by Anonymousreply 27May 1, 2025 2:15 PM

r24 Even their Hispanics are MAGA.

by Anonymousreply 28May 1, 2025 2:15 PM

R9, Texas has been growing at an explosive rate for going on 80 years now. Maintenance and improvement of the infrastructure has been pretty steady over that whole time. I don't know why you think 30 years from now it would be in shambles. If anything, it's a challenge to just keep the infrastructure adequate for the growth. As long as it continues to grow, the state will continue maintaining and growing the infrastructure. Now if that growth should stop, then yeah, maybe things would start to deteriorate. But that's not going to happen in the foreseeable future.

R12, living in Texas is not any different than living in any other place in the US. Every day, people go to work, drive in traffic, do their jobs, go to school, shop for things they need, come home, watch TV, go to bed, and then get up the next day and do it all over again. There's nothing inherent about Texas that would make living there much different than living in any other place in this country.

R23, that has happened exactly one time in my entire 60 years. And that was because the entire state, from the Panhandle to the Rio Grande Valley was suddenly plunged into sub-freezing temperatures. That is a very rare occurrence. It's not like we live in fear everytime a cold front blows through.

That being said, as a native Texan, there are times I hate being in this shit hole. The traffic sucks in the big metro areas. The weather, especially summers, can be unbearable. And the political climate is depressing.

by Anonymousreply 29May 1, 2025 2:16 PM

r29 is what happens if you live in that shithole for too long, you start making excuses for all the shittiness. It rewires your brain, so even facts start getting distorted.

And no, those three cities haven't been growing for 80 years the same way they've been growing in recent years, don't make me laugh. You can see the exact same "pristine" mirage in Bucharest these days.

by Anonymousreply 30May 1, 2025 2:22 PM

r29 is what happens if you live in that shithole for too long, you start making excuses for all the shittiness. It rewires your brain, so even facts start getting distorted.

And no, those three cities haven't been growing for 80 years the same way they've been growing in recent years, don't make me laugh. You can see the exact same "pristine" mirage in Bucharest these days.

by Anonymousreply 31May 1, 2025 2:22 PM

*Sorry for the double post, DL was acting up.

by Anonymousreply 32May 1, 2025 2:23 PM

Ahhh yes, it’s our resident, terminally online idiot poster at R11. The one who doesn’t believe that any black poster who says they are black is actually who they say they are.

Which is every bit as racist as the yokels in Texas who blanched at getting on an elevator with me. But R11 probably thinks he is morally distinct.

You’re kind of strange, R11, but your strident idiocy doesn’t affect me one bit.

So do your thing, dummy.

by Anonymousreply 33May 1, 2025 2:25 PM

The North certainly has its pathologies, racial and otherwise. I've spent considerable time in New England and H. P. Lovecraft was a New Journalist.

by Anonymousreply 34May 1, 2025 2:27 PM

R16, of course I found it funny. It literally took those people longer to get where they were going because they didn’t want to ride the elevator with a black guy. It’s funny. I’m certainly not going to internalize it.

I also had a dude in a cowboy hat get real flustered when he got on the elevator with me at the Westin in downtown Dallas, hit the button for the 18th floor, and then watched me hit the button for the 30th floor. He didn’t like that.

Thought that was funny too.

by Anonymousreply 35May 1, 2025 2:32 PM

R34, the northeast does indeed have its pathologies when it comes to race.

by Anonymousreply 36May 1, 2025 2:32 PM

R30, here's a chart of the population growth of the DFW metro area since 1950. What I see is a steady year-over-year growth over a 75-year period. I don't see any unusual spikes indicating dramatic increases in the recent past.

The charts for Houston and Austin are similar, showing steady year-over-year growth. Austin's incredible growth, though, has been compacted into the last 40 years instead of 80.

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by Anonymousreply 37May 1, 2025 2:34 PM

The whole country is racist. This isn't some shocking revelation. The south is still the worst by far.

by Anonymousreply 38May 1, 2025 2:35 PM

There are liberal communities in the South just like the North has plenty of MAGA. There is no point in condemning the whole area. Virginia has gone blue and North Caroline is heading there. Only an idiot would give up on the fastest growing area of the US.

by Anonymousreply 39May 1, 2025 2:36 PM

Sorry -- I didn't read the thread, so please forgive me if someone already said this, but Boston (and Philly, etc.) became cities when people rode horses to get around. That's why the damned streets in Philly are so narrow and there's never anywhere to park.

Places like FL have wide roads, great asphalt (no snow!) and lots and lots of parking. I don't think I've parallel parked a car more than three times in the entire 22 years (with a break in the middle) I've lived here.

The south does have its compensations!

by Anonymousreply 40May 1, 2025 2:42 PM

potential Texans are always excited about' no State income tax!' What they don't tell you; our property taxes are insane. Most likely 3-4 times what you pay in an 'income tax' State. I will admit, living in blue dot (Dallas) is a respite from the deep red sea that surrounds us. And, God bless Molly Ivins & Ann Richards. 2 national treasures.

by Anonymousreply 41May 1, 2025 2:44 PM

Having grown up in upstate New York and been forced to attend my fair share of Civil War reenactments as a child nobody needs to be letting the North off on the racism front. Growing up in my small farm town I'd see more Confederate flags than I have visiting the South and yes, the logic of that always baffled me (WE ARE THE NORTH, YOU FECKLESS CUNTS) but then, I'm not racist. (At least I try not to be but having been raised in the middle of it I like anybody find those biases rearing their heads at times and have to work all the time to tear them out by the root.)

Anyway my boyfriend's from South Carolina and yes you do see lots of commingling between black and white people down there but it has its own shit going on (obviously) - take my boyfriend's niece, who is trying very hard to be a good liberal for her gay uncle but was recently called upon to give a speech at her black nanny's wake and went full ebonics "You is smart, you is kind, you is important." with that shit. I almost crawled out of my skin when I pictured this white princess making this elderly black woman's death entirely about herself, right to the faces of the woman's grieving family.

by Anonymousreply 42May 1, 2025 2:48 PM

It’s not just property taxes. I can’t speak to TX, but I lived in Nashville (same game as TX) and CA. So much stuff in TN was more expensive than CA. Get into things like water, car license registrations, contractors, even booze… way more expensive.

As for infrastructure, I used to say “yeah, we have taxes in CA. You know what else we have? Sidewalks. Street lights. Traffic lights that don’t dangle from a string over intersections. Etc etc.”. Infrastructure in Nashville is downright atrocious as they keep building skyscraper after skyscraper without doing a single improvement to the roads.

Oh and in CA I can buy whiskey at Rite Aid. Or in a bar at 6am on a Sunday. Try that in one of these states.

Everything is going to cost you in the end.

by Anonymousreply 43May 1, 2025 2:54 PM

Texas is EVERYTHING wrong with this stupid country, holy shit.

by Anonymousreply 44May 1, 2025 2:54 PM

R44, it's Florida.

by Anonymousreply 45May 1, 2025 2:59 PM

Because they fucking refuse to make the flip from red to blue and they keep re-electing Ted Fuck Face Cruz.

Is that a good enough reason OP?

by Anonymousreply 46May 1, 2025 3:02 PM

R21, putting aside the Soprano wannabes, yes, we’re pretty sophisticated in Jersey.

We’re just not pretentious about it.

by Anonymousreply 47May 1, 2025 3:04 PM

Remind me why I’m supposed to hate Texass again?

fixed for MAGAT OP y'all

by Anonymousreply 48May 1, 2025 3:13 PM

Rednecks waving Confederate Flags, OP.

by Anonymousreply 49May 1, 2025 3:13 PM

R42 In Texas we don't feel the need to post in CAPs you uppity Yankee bitch.

by Anonymousreply 50May 1, 2025 3:17 PM

Detroit. I'll just leave it here.

by Anonymousreply 51May 1, 2025 3:17 PM

Everything is booger in Texas.

by Anonymousreply 52May 1, 2025 3:19 PM

The DFW metro area is a never ending hellscape of highway construction and fast food. No fank you.

by Anonymousreply 53May 1, 2025 3:24 PM

Yeah R10, it’s funny until you’re roped and tied to a pick up truck and dragged for miles until you’re dead.

by Anonymousreply 54May 1, 2025 3:33 PM

The housing is cheap there. Most of it is constructed out of corrugated cardboard.

by Anonymousreply 55May 1, 2025 3:35 PM

Texas’ cities are liberal enclaves. The problem is the politics is dominated by rural area because of voter suppression and gerrymandering. Those rural folks detest gays.

A friend moved to a suburb and all his neighbors were church-going people who, though nice, disapproved of his being gay. the Whites don’t like Latinos and Blacks either but tolerate them because they need the labor. Women can no longer get proper healthcare because of abortion bans and bans on anything that may affect pregnancy.

Plus, it’s fucking hot as hell, like Florida, in the summer.

by Anonymousreply 56May 1, 2025 3:50 PM

It’s a cultural wasteland. What sort of culture has ever come out of Texas? Yeehaw culture

by Anonymousreply 57May 1, 2025 3:51 PM

R45 Fine but TX is a close second.

by Anonymousreply 58May 1, 2025 3:53 PM

Op, you went to three liberal cities.

by Anonymousreply 59May 1, 2025 3:56 PM

New Jersey has some of the wealthiest zip codes in the country.

by Anonymousreply 60May 1, 2025 4:02 PM

Oh, FFS. The wind blows in Texas — not even that hard — and the power goes out. Or when you have rolling blackouts and the electric company can charge you whatever they want, so running that heater/AC when it is most needed is going to mean you won't be able to pay the rent. And yes, the streets in Austin, Dallas and Houston are gorgeous... a few miles out of town, not so much. And by the way, don't get sick in Texas because unless you're in one of the three major cities, you'll have to drive hours to get to a hospital and then wait hours because the one doctor on staff is busy. And if you're female... well, don't get sick.

Woot! There's no income taxes! Because the hourly laborer should bear the same burden to maintain the roads, bridges and tunnels as the wealthy conglomerate even though the hourly laborer drives an econobox fewer than 20 miles a day and the conglomerate maintains a fleet of trucks each weighing more than a hundred econoboxes and which get driven hundreds of miles per day. I mean, a road's a road, amiright?

Mmmm, barbecue. Delicious. What's the meat? Was it processed through an inspected processing plant? Who knows, it's Texas, where we employ undocumented immigrants (who are stealing our jobs!) and ignore routine health and safety protocols because freedom. And if you're poor and hungry, that's on you; God blesses the wealthy for a reason.

/rant.

Yes, there are racists everywhere in this nation (the 2024 election proved that) and every region has its issues, foibles and dis/advantages. I'm happy for Texans and wish them the day they deserve. My issue is that Texans are not happy for me, nor want me to have the day I deserve, bless their hearts.

by Anonymousreply 61May 1, 2025 4:09 PM

Measles epicenter is in Lubbock.

by Anonymousreply 62May 1, 2025 4:12 PM

It's hilarious to me that someone drove around a state for a few days and thinks they know the place. Especially a place as huge as Texas.

by Anonymousreply 63May 1, 2025 4:12 PM

Clean and orderly? You clearly only saw the insides of the hilton

by Anonymousreply 64May 1, 2025 4:23 PM

R63, I never claimed to “know” the place. I said I visited a place, and then I shared my impressions of that place relative to the place where I live.

This is something people do every day.

You might understand how people socialize with one another better if you left your house every now and then, dummy.

by Anonymousreply 65May 1, 2025 5:14 PM

[quote] a few miles out of town, not so much.

I took the Vonlane bus from Austin to Dallas and saw literally hundreds of miles of road outside the city. It was beautiful and well paved.

So that is not an effective counterpoint.

by Anonymousreply 66May 1, 2025 5:19 PM

You should hate it because it's a Nazi state and you really are a moron if you don't get that.

by Anonymousreply 67May 1, 2025 5:22 PM

[quote]And the fucking infrastructure. My God, the roads and the infrastructure were just beautiful.

OP just made the dlscovery that states that experiences no deep freezes and little snow and are neither heavily populated nor heavily urbanized often have nice roads. Please join me in congratulating him

by Anonymousreply 68May 1, 2025 5:29 PM

OP can't possibly be this stupid. Sounds like a white MAGA troll.

by Anonymousreply 69May 1, 2025 5:32 PM

[quote]Oh and in CA I can buy whiskey at Rite Aid. Or in a bar at 6am on a Sunday. Try that in one of these states.

Hello!

by Anonymousreply 70May 1, 2025 5:39 PM

[quote] I took the Vonlane bus

Riding the bus is for the poors.

by Anonymousreply 71May 1, 2025 5:43 PM

Was this OP's first time leaving the Northeast? I'm guessing yes. The wide-eyed wonderment at pothole-free roads and black and white people interacting is, well, [italic]something. [/italic]

by Anonymousreply 72May 1, 2025 5:48 PM

R68, no dear. That dog won’t hunt either. I have had to spend a great deal of time in Florida (Tampa area) and guess what? The roads suck there too.

I guess no one has any good reasons. I do feel kind of like a dupe for buying into the bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 73May 1, 2025 6:06 PM

Pick up a newspaper, OP. It’s not exactly a secret. Jaysus.

by Anonymousreply 74May 1, 2025 6:12 PM

As with most state and municipal budgets, most of the money goes to salaries, health benefits and retirement benefits, especially unionized states in the Northeast and Midwest.

Check those three line-items on any budget and you'll have 60-70% of operating costs.

The notice the correlation between your property taxes and those three items.

by Anonymousreply 75May 1, 2025 6:14 PM

Texas is exactly what you’d expect a Confederate State to be. Just add an extra layer of HATE.

by Anonymousreply 76May 1, 2025 6:23 PM

[quote]But yes, the racism is an issue. I’m black and more than once, people wouldn’t enter an elevator with me alone, or else showed noticeable hesitation to do so. I thought that was kind of funny though.

[quote]OP - you found it funny? Are you crazy? That's reality trying to tell you something

The unmitigated nerve of OP, to have his own reaction to something, instead of the one whites think he ought to have.

To be fair OP, you did title your thread “remind me why I’m supposed to hate Texas.” People were too happy to step up.

Never been, myself. Glad you had a nice trip.

by Anonymousreply 77May 1, 2025 6:25 PM

It’s a dry heat, tho. Especially in far west tejas.

by Anonymousreply 78May 1, 2025 6:28 PM

Stealth Trumptard thread.

by Anonymousreply 79May 1, 2025 6:45 PM

jfx r79

This is why we lost 2024.

by Anonymousreply 80May 1, 2025 7:07 PM

Nope, you’re the reason, Quisling.

by Anonymousreply 81May 1, 2025 7:08 PM

R78, Austin, Dallas, and San Antonio are all fairly humid. Houston has New Orleans-level humidity year-round but it doesn’t get as nightmarishly hot as Dallas or Austin in the summer.

by Anonymousreply 82May 1, 2025 7:52 PM

We lost in 2024 because someone rightly pointed out conservative talking points seeping into every troll post?

Christ the mental illness runs HIGH!

by Anonymousreply 83May 1, 2025 7:53 PM

Tampa is a big and crowded city, where it's almost impossible to close down lanes on well-used roads to make repairs. You'd have been bitching up a storm if a couple of lanes were closed down when you were trying to drive through there, am I right? Plus I-275 through Tampa now is [italic]great![/italic] I remember when that was a horror. And did you see they're putting in a new bridge next to the Howard Frankland just for express lanes? No more sitting on the bridge at rush hour!

BTW, when I go "up home" to PA and pay to drive on the PA Turnpike, the roads are so full of potholes I can't believe they have the nerve to charge me to drive on it. And it's expensive, too!

Eh, whatever. No place is perfect.

by Anonymousreply 84May 1, 2025 8:12 PM

they don't throw away money on paying rent for people who need it or for many other social services. if they do, there are strict guidelines with fraud investigations. this is why the big blue cities look as bad as they do, there is no money for things the taxpayers might actually need

by Anonymousreply 85May 1, 2025 8:44 PM

I used to work in Salem, MA which is a huge tourist town and I met people from all over the country and world.

As bad as the southern states and midwest are considered to be politically, they’re typically very polite respectful people.

Whereas New England, New York / New Jersey people were generally horrible. Canadians too which might shock people.

by Anonymousreply 86May 1, 2025 8:46 PM

Do you prefer London or Milton Keynes?

by Anonymousreply 87May 1, 2025 8:52 PM

NBA players, most of whom are black, rate Boston as the most racist city in the league. Northeastern states are only viewed as liberal because large cities overwhelm the conservative vote that is the majority of the state. I’m from Central NY. It’s pretty darn red around here.

by Anonymousreply 88May 1, 2025 8:58 PM

Divide and conquer thread

by Anonymousreply 89May 1, 2025 9:00 PM

R89 Gays have never been part of a monolithic mindset. We’re individuals with different points of view on a variety of issues. That’s a major advantage of intellectual freedom.

by Anonymousreply 90May 1, 2025 9:14 PM

You stand a better chance of being shot and killed in one of those "amusing" Texas elevator scenarios.

by Anonymousreply 91May 1, 2025 9:17 PM

What's not to like: Heat, bugs, traffic, racism, homophobia, misogyny, no agency for anyone who's not white and male, religion on steroids, gross polluters, open carry laws, flies, freeways, all of West and North Texas, tornados, dust, cheap tract homes, Magnolia crap.

What is to like: Austin, honky tonks, lakes, rivers, fishing, the hill country, live music, the beach, proximity to fun spots in MX and Louisiana, line dancing, chicken sh*t bingo, cowboy hats and tight pants, beer, steaks, lots of bars, lots of weed, breakfast tacos, Ubers that are trucks.

by Anonymousreply 92May 1, 2025 9:20 PM

Austin and Houston are big rich cities. You can’t really judge the idiocy of the rest of the state on experience there.

by Anonymousreply 93May 1, 2025 9:21 PM

R93 I can tell you the same thing about New York State.

by Anonymousreply 94May 1, 2025 9:23 PM

Texas was made from hate and theft. Texas killed JFK. Texas bred Bushes. And Texas remains full Texans.

There aren't enough hurricanes to clean it out.

But I do like Austin.

It's less full of Texans.

by Anonymousreply 95May 1, 2025 9:27 PM

R88 Do you have a link to this? NBA players rating cities for racism?

by Anonymousreply 96May 1, 2025 9:35 PM

The term "racism" seems thrown around far too frequently, IMHO.

by Anonymousreply 97May 1, 2025 9:38 PM

"My God, the roads and the infrastructure were just beautiful. "

What in the hell? This seriously made me choke laughing.

by Anonymousreply 98May 1, 2025 9:39 PM

[quote] Texas exceptionalism is all based on racism.

Houston is one of the most diverse cities in the country and has a great food scene because of that. How is that based on racism? But as a Texas (fifth generation), I have to say I am embarrassed by my state at this point. It's run by fascists.

by Anonymousreply 99May 1, 2025 9:44 PM

R88 "Northeastern states are only viewed as liberal because large cities overwhelm the conservative vote that is the majority of the state."

This is a lie.

Pull your head out of your ass.

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by Anonymousreply 100May 1, 2025 9:45 PM

The main divide has always been urban vs. rural. A lot of demographics people try to explain differences with (like race) are minuscule when you compare them to urban vs. rural.

I spent three weeks in Austin twenty years ago (some woman I was sleeping with lived there) and I really loved it, other than the weird main road where you can see the place you want to go, but you have to drive by it, do a ridiculous U-turn, get off again, and do another U-turn to actually get to the place you're trying to go. JFC!!

My Austin story is, I went to a restaurant called Texas Land and Cattle, because the steaks were supposed to be incredible (which mine certainly was). I was by myself because I was driving from place to place in the area looking for work (not as weird as it sounds -- really!). I sat down at a booth, and the wait staff (mostly college students) was so nice to me!! The place was pretty empty, so they took turns sitting with me while I waited and ate so I wouldn't be sitting alone.

Needless to say, they got great tips and I bent over backwards gushing to the manager about what wonderful kids they were.

Those were the days...

by Anonymousreply 101May 1, 2025 9:47 PM

R96 LeBron James discussing Boston fans.

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by Anonymousreply 102May 1, 2025 9:59 PM

Stockholm Syndrome=Real mental illness. Pathological lyingi is also real mental illness.

by Anonymousreply 103May 1, 2025 10:41 PM

lyingi = new kind of pasta r103?

Clearly a spiral-type. What sauce would you suggest?

by Anonymousreply 104May 1, 2025 10:52 PM

If y'all want to understand Boston racism - as well as Boston's perpetual reckoning with and self-flagellation about its racism - this documentary does a pretty good job of explaining it.

But sure, if this is about your taxes, you go girl and head on down to Texas. I'm sure that power grid doesn't need any tax money.

I personally would have an issue about living in a gun-happy state hellbent on destroying basic health care for women (among other things). But I do love chicken shit bingo ....

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by Anonymousreply 105May 1, 2025 11:03 PM

Anafronil will help with that OCD, R104. I’m afraid therapy might be needed to cure no sense of humor though.

by Anonymousreply 106May 1, 2025 11:13 PM

I’m from Texas and the major cities are pretty progressive (by Texas standards) but the rest of the state is mostly rural small towns filled with hateful people. But you can say that of almost any state in the US.

by Anonymousreply 107May 1, 2025 11:27 PM

R102 That's one. LeBron James is a whiny disloyal arrogant pussy ass bitch. Keep him.

by Anonymousreply 108May 1, 2025 11:28 PM

[quote]Houston is one of the most diverse cities in the country and has a great food scene

Both these points were true when I lived there in the early '90s. Lots of hot guys from all over the world. It was glorious.

by Anonymousreply 109May 1, 2025 11:47 PM

You want Governor Hot Wheels? 🚗

by Anonymousreply 110May 1, 2025 11:48 PM

[quote]I went to a restaurant called Texas Land and Cattle, because the steaks were supposed to be incredible (which mine certainly was).

They do have good steaks at a good price, or they did the one time I went there. In Arlington around 2001.

by Anonymousreply 111May 1, 2025 11:53 PM

I thought the small towns are rapidly shrinking?

by Anonymousreply 112May 2, 2025 12:01 AM

Anafronil, not familiar with that sauce—tomato or cheese based r106 ? Recipes ?

by Anonymousreply 113May 2, 2025 12:08 AM

Hardly the best in the country for infrastructure. Sorry, OP!

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by Anonymousreply 114May 2, 2025 12:23 AM

[quote]What in the hell? This seriously made me choke laughing.

Well then you must be a very daft individual. And probably one who rides a bicycle everywhere. Because anyone with a decent car -- one that they actually care about -- knows what I mean by that.

by Anonymousreply 115May 2, 2025 12:24 AM

[quote]You stand a better chance of being shot and killed in one of those "amusing" Texas elevator scenarios.

Got any proof for that?

No?

Didn't think so.

by Anonymousreply 116May 2, 2025 12:27 AM

I've never been to Texas and I probably wouldn't hate it but every time I think about how people hate Texas it reminds me of this song when the two Dixie Chicks did their little side project the courtyard hounds. There's a song where they do it with Jacob Dylan about how they respective city's weather is preventing them from taking the next step in the relationship. Her because it's too damn cold in Chicago and him because Texas is too f****** hot. I always think when I hear that song that I probably follow Jacob in his hot cock anywhere.

by Anonymousreply 117May 2, 2025 12:28 AM

Texas road quality? Mmmm, hmmm. Yeah. Right.

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by Anonymousreply 118May 2, 2025 12:28 AM

To your new statewide chain of Maura Healy One-Way International Tourist Hotel Spas, OP.

by Anonymousreply 119May 2, 2025 12:42 AM

Well it's ugly for one and crowded and the museums SUCK and there's no culture.

I don't count tex.mex.tacos and Indians who walk in the street as culture! Gimme the east coast cooler weather and seasons.

by Anonymousreply 120May 2, 2025 12:49 AM

R10 what kinda people did that to you?

by Anonymousreply 121May 2, 2025 12:50 AM

When my ex and I drove across west Texas it was endless nothing for miles. I was terrified the truck would break down. If you saw two cars in an hour that was a lot.

We stopped for the night in a wide-spot-in-the-road shithole called Fort Stockton. There was a no-name motel off the highway. The clerk was a mean-mouthed frau wearing a TURQUOISE CROSS NECKLACE who knew the score and practically threw the keys at us.

Finally we saw a local and asked where we could get a beer or two to cool down. "IT'S SUNDAY!" he said. We walked to a Pizza Hut that looked like it hadn't been cleaned in 10 years (seriously, pizza crusts on the floor, in the aisles) and sullen teenagers brought us tepid Coors Light tap in those red plastic Pizza Hut cups.

We backed the rear of the truck flush against the wall before bed, got up with the sun, and didn't even have coffee before peeling out of there.

And there's more Fort Stocktons in Texas than there are Austins or Marvas.

by Anonymousreply 122May 2, 2025 1:34 AM

Marva? Wtf is Marva?

by Anonymousreply 123May 2, 2025 1:53 AM

Marfa autocorrected to Marva for some reason.

by Anonymousreply 124May 2, 2025 1:55 AM

This is such an obvious right wing thread.

by Anonymousreply 125May 2, 2025 1:57 AM

I used to go to Texas a couple times a year and got to Dallas, Houston, Ft Worth & El Paso. Always happy to leave. You can see glimpses Austin's past quirkiness, but mostly it seems drowned in traffic. I'm not sure where OP's "clean" part comes from--the cities are sprawlburgs with lots of strip malls and there's plenty of litter on the road and with rapid growth you have 1st and second rings of suburbs that greatly faded..

by Anonymousreply 126May 2, 2025 2:17 AM

Every time I went to Texas to visit my mother, I ended up dealing with the stupidest service people on the face of the earth. I also encountered teen sales personnel who became wistful when they saw my address and indicated how much they wanted to move there.

Enjoy the pavement. Fry an egg on it if you like next July.

by Anonymousreply 127May 2, 2025 2:21 AM

R88 Black people do better in red states than blue states. Massachusetts is a liberal blue state but black people would fare better in Texas or southern states with home ownership, business ownership, and a better school system in the neighborhoods.

That’s not cause red states are better, black people root mostly from red states and have built a better system over the decades. There’s no equivalent of a Houston or Atlanta in the Northeast.

by Anonymousreply 128May 2, 2025 4:31 AM

[quote]This is such an obvious right wing thread.

Oh put a fucking sock in it, will you? Christ.

I am a Democrat. I would even call myself liberal. I'm just not a crazy fucking leftist. Get over it, loser.

by Anonymousreply 129May 2, 2025 4:43 AM

R105 Yes, Massachusetts is racist. Massachusetts is a sad insight into what black people living in a blue Democratic liberal state looks like.

So when Democrats want to say Democrats are so progressive and make everyone thrive, just look at the black population of Massachusetts and see how thriving they are.

I think it’s common knowledge now at this point how black people who have to move to Boston for work or college are usually horrified and experience a culture shock.

by Anonymousreply 130May 2, 2025 4:47 AM

You get over it cunt.

by Anonymousreply 131May 2, 2025 4:49 AM

R129 They’re just gaslighting you, must be from Massachusetts. White Democrats don’t realize they’re as bad as White Republicans when you look at outcomes for black people.

More overt white racists are way easier to deal with than the whites who don’t know they’re racist. That has been the general rhetoric of black transplants who come from the south and had to live in Northeast places like Boston.

Better ideology does not equal better outcomes.

by Anonymousreply 132May 2, 2025 4:54 AM

It’s a hateful State. Seems only natural to return the favor.

by Anonymousreply 133May 2, 2025 4:58 AM

"I came in hot and almost expecting to hate the place. But it’s hard to NOT notice how clean and orderly everything is. And the fucking infrastructure. My God, the roads and the infrastructure were just beautiful". And then I realized I was in Dubai. Must nicer than Texas and just as hateful of blacks and gays.

by Anonymousreply 134May 2, 2025 5:00 AM

Also, the thing about Boston and racism is the effects of the melting pot.

In the south the poverty is more racially segregated. I used to visit my family in the south in Arkansas and Tennessee and I never saw one white person while I was there.

In Boston - poor whites, poor Latinos, poor blacks, poor Asians all live in the same neighborhood, same buildings. But a lot of these whites have a bitterness and resentment that they have to share the same space as people of color and their whiteness is the only thing that they have that makes them feel superior.

Mark Wahlberg is a textbook example of this. He grew up in Dorchester which is a rough neighborhood and as a teenager got arrested for blinding an Asian man and throwing rocks at a little black girl.

by Anonymousreply 135May 2, 2025 5:07 AM

I'm sure it's a coincidence that the OP happens to be from the state our former Denny's "chef". Turned Craigslist caterer with his $1000 "rescue Bengal cats" is from.

by Anonymousreply 136May 2, 2025 5:09 AM

Why is Steven Miller posting on DL, trying to convince the dumb that Massachusetts is more racist than Texas? Don't you have better things to do, like changing Trump's overflowing shitty diaper, Steven?

by Anonymousreply 137May 2, 2025 7:34 AM

[quote]But a lot of these whites have a bitterness and resentment that they have to share the same space as people of color

Hasn’t been my experience. Have always found a great deal of neighborliness in working class areas and underserved areas, although in the latter, the hostility usually comes from the castes of recent arrivals who own the little bodegas people rely on, like Asian, South Asian & Middle Eastern

by Anonymousreply 138May 2, 2025 3:05 PM

Of course the contrarians are going to use Massachusetts — the most racist Northern/liberal (although I'd argue it's libertarian, not liberal) state — as "evidence" that Texas is or is not.... whatever. I lived in MA for over a decade, hated it, and promptly left when I'd made a bunch of money and opportunities elsewhere beckoned. What I realized after living there a few years is that there are two Massachusetts: the liberal elite version and the reality that it is a poor working class state. It really depends on the circles in which you travel.

It doesn't take a Harvard or MIT professor to see OP's orbit.

by Anonymousreply 139May 2, 2025 4:08 PM

Definitely agree with R138.

Someone is going to come along shortly and accuse you of not being a person of color, R138.

LOL

by Anonymousreply 140May 2, 2025 5:24 PM

R139, you don’t know what you’re talking about. I was born right here in Lynn. Lived in Lynn until age 8, grew up and went to college in Virginia, moved to Chicago for five years after college, then wound up back here by pure happenstance when I took a job with a local company. Most of my extended family lives in Lin, which is his working classes as it gets. So don’t assume you know me or my background.

by Anonymousreply 141May 2, 2025 5:27 PM

R139 This has nothing to do with racism. You just hated it because you're a great big fat person.

by Anonymousreply 142May 2, 2025 5:51 PM

I like listening to white people lecture POCs about racism.

by Anonymousreply 143May 2, 2025 5:53 PM

R130 A story about a murder that happened 31 years ago is not evidence of your completely unrelated racial fantasies.

by Anonymousreply 144May 2, 2025 5:58 PM

R130 Who the fuck do you think you are to speak for black people you condescending twat?

by Anonymousreply 145May 2, 2025 6:03 PM

R135 "In Boston - poor whites, poor Latinos, poor blacks, poor Asians all live in the same neighborhood, same buildings."

What is the name name of this ONE neighborhood that all the poor whites, all the poor Latinos, all the poor blacks, and all poor Asians, live in?

Where are these buildings? What is the name of this one neighborhood?

by Anonymousreply 146May 2, 2025 6:07 PM

It’s a cesspool

by Anonymousreply 147May 2, 2025 6:09 PM

R135 Still mad at Marky Mark.

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by Anonymousreply 148May 2, 2025 6:12 PM

Also OP:

*MY 24-YEAR OLD NEIGHBOR IS DEAD TO ME!*

[quote]He was just a kid.

[quote]Last night I noticed that his balcony door was wide open, with his dog roaming in and out. I assumed he went on a road trip or something and had just left his dog to his own devices. But the dog has indeed been barking since Saturday night, and in that plaintive yelp that dogs use when they are in distress. This morning when I saw that his balcony was still wide open, I considered notifying the concierge, but I didn't do it. I just thought he was an irresponsible dog owner.

[quote]Fast forward to this afternoon and two of his friends are pounding on his door. So I go outside and tell them that his balcony door has been wide open for a day. They insisted that nothing was wrong, even as they continued banging. About thirty minutes later, the two friends were outside the apartment bawling. One of them took the poor dog away. Now the police are here.

[quote]Just a kid. And this is some Kitty Genovese shit where this kid has at least four neighbors (including myself) who could have intervened. But none of us did.

by Anonymousreply 149May 2, 2025 6:23 PM

This OP sounds very similar to a threat posted here many years ago. A BMW-driving black gay man from Texas who said he's never experienced a moment of racism in all his life in Dallas.

I remember it clearly. And he tried to turn it around that liberals want to see race everywhere, blah, blah.

No one believed him then - I don't believe this OP either.

by Anonymousreply 150May 2, 2025 8:56 PM

OP=Trumptard troll

by Anonymousreply 151May 2, 2025 9:13 PM

One reason

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by Anonymousreply 152May 2, 2025 9:18 PM

RightwingLounge

by Anonymousreply 153May 2, 2025 9:57 PM

Nice catch R149.

by Anonymousreply 154May 2, 2025 9:58 PM

But wait R150... R142 says it has nothing to do with racism (except that OP specifically said "But yes, the racism is an issue..." and roughly 20% of the replies have addressed racism).

by Anonymousreply 155May 2, 2025 10:17 PM

Jasmine Crockett loves Texas

by Anonymousreply 156May 3, 2025 1:22 AM
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