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Most egregious example of "yellowface"

Non-Asians playing Asian.

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by Anonymousreply 68May 5, 2025 9:47 PM

That guy at Jaded Lounge in Philly in the late 90s. You were MEXICAN!!!

by Anonymousreply 1April 29, 2025 5:48 PM

Marlon Brando, "Teahouse of the August Moon."

Sidney Toler, Charlie Chan movies

Alec Guinness, "A Majority of One"

by Anonymousreply 2April 29, 2025 6:00 PM

Fred Astaire & Lucille Bremer

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by Anonymousreply 3April 29, 2025 7:18 PM

[quote] —Costumes Designed by SHARAFF

Does that include the gowns?

by Anonymousreply 4April 29, 2025 7:23 PM

Gale Sondergaard in The Letter (although I guess she was supposed to have been half Asian, not full, in the role). But it was a small role, good performance, and also the 1940s, so who really cares?

by Anonymousreply 5April 29, 2025 7:42 PM

Ona Munson as Mother Gin-Sling in SHANGHAI GESTURE.

Featuring breathtaking Gene Tierney and slimy Victor Mature as a slimy Egyptian.

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by Anonymousreply 6April 29, 2025 7:58 PM

Definitely Mickey Rooney as he spoils an otherwise enjoyable movie.

by Anonymousreply 7April 29, 2025 8:00 PM

Let's hear your definition of "egregious" first, OP, since it's one of those words that so often are misused by those feeling the need to apply it?

by Anonymousreply 8April 29, 2025 8:03 PM

What about Alec Guinness in A Passage to India?

What color face was that?

by Anonymousreply 9April 29, 2025 8:04 PM

Oh, I came on here thinking we were going to talk about Ariana Grande's turn at being Asian.

by Anonymousreply 10April 29, 2025 8:05 PM

R8 It’s the same as “obscene”.

You know it when you see it.

(Not OP)

by Anonymousreply 11April 29, 2025 8:08 PM

Look it up, r11.

by Anonymousreply 12April 30, 2025 3:25 AM

Many of these are bad performances, but as awful as Luise Rainer is, I think she was trying to be sincere. Mickey Rooney feels like he’s actively trying to be offensive. That makes his performance the most egregious.

Shout-outs to the modern examples of white actors in Asian roles: Emma Stone in Aloha and Scarlett Johansson in Ghost in the Shell.

by Anonymousreply 13April 30, 2025 3:38 AM

R13, you're so young and naive. Luise Rainer won an Oscar for that role!

by Anonymousreply 14April 30, 2025 3:40 AM

Linda Hunt, The Year of Living Dangerously

by Anonymousreply 15April 30, 2025 3:42 AM

Birgit Nilsson, Turandot

by Anonymousreply 16April 30, 2025 3:50 AM

I'm with R13. Whatever we may feel about yellowface or other cross-racial performances, the ones in OP's list are basically well-intentioned -with the exception of Mickey Rooney's, which is so over-the-top it was bound to be offensive, even by 60s standards. The character of Charlie Chan may be stereotypical, but he is essentially a hero: brave, smart, kind, and with great integrity.

by Anonymousreply 17April 30, 2025 4:20 AM

You picked Jerry Lewis for the photo/link but didn't choose it for the poll? Nice work, OP,

by Anonymousreply 18April 30, 2025 4:20 AM

Rooney made me cringe when I first saw the movie back in the 60s. Those bits have never been funny. Blake Edwards taste level has always been questionable.

by Anonymousreply 19April 30, 2025 4:29 AM

Linda Hunt wasn't playing Asian in that film, but she was playing a man.

by Anonymousreply 20April 30, 2025 4:34 AM

[quote] Blake Edwards taste level has always been questionable.

It was.

by Anonymousreply 21April 30, 2025 4:34 AM

Does Yul Brynner as King of Siam count?

by Anonymousreply 22April 30, 2025 4:35 AM

R2 has it all. Good to see that (pop)-cultural literacy is alive and well on DL.

by Anonymousreply 23April 30, 2025 4:37 AM

[quote] Linda Hunt wasn't playing Asian in that film

She wasn't?

[quote] It also stars Linda Hunt as a Chinese-Australian man with dwarfism, Billy Kwan

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by Anonymousreply 24April 30, 2025 4:37 AM

R10 is correct, why is the "donut licking I hate America no talent Bitch looking like an Asian slut"? Her eyes look slanty...DL we need to know.

by Anonymousreply 25April 30, 2025 4:44 AM

^^^^ I was going to type "CHINKY" but that's Racist^^^^

by Anonymousreply 26April 30, 2025 4:45 AM

Juanita Hall in South Pacific

by Anonymousreply 27April 30, 2025 9:09 AM

While not the worst, Sean Connery as James Bond, under cover in Japan, in You Only Live Twice stands out in my opinion. Fucking tragic.

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by Anonymousreply 28April 30, 2025 9:41 AM

Shirley Maclaine wasn't playing Asian per se in "My Geisha." She was playing an actress pretending to be Japanese to get the lead role in her husband's movie of "Madame Butterfly."

by Anonymousreply 29April 30, 2025 11:27 AM

Jerry Lewis was such a loathsome individual.

by Anonymousreply 30April 30, 2025 11:29 AM

Cartman, when he was obsessing about the "Chinese invasion plan." He and Butters infiltrate a Chinese restaurant in 'Chinaman' drag, complete with conical hat and fake buck teeth.

Cartman, to a bemused Chinese family dining at one of the tables: "So nice to see other Chinese people. As you can see, we are Chinese ourselves. So, what are the plans to take over America again? I forgot"

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by Anonymousreply 31April 30, 2025 11:38 AM

R11 proves the point.

OP was fishing and mixed dramatic with comedic roles.

Dramatic roles are not problematic, unless every black, Latino and Asian playing white characters are considered equally egregious (sic).

The comedic roles are "egregious." They are comedic. Several are regrettable, some deeply so. But comedy has a license and either hits well or doesn't.

Personally I'm more sorry about the waste of good Asian actors who could have played Charlie Chan and the fact that Louis Armstrong was made to play black stereotypes in his few talking roles.

And the word is "disgusting" for that.

Quit collecting the wrong false grievances, OP.

by Anonymousreply 32April 30, 2025 12:11 PM

[quote]Juanita Hall in South Pacific

AND in "Flower Drum Song."

I guess she was Rodgers and Hammerstein's favorite fake Asian.

by Anonymousreply 33April 30, 2025 2:49 PM

Peter Ustinov played Charlie Chan in "Charlie Chan and the Curse of the Dragon Queen" with an all star cast and newbie Michelle Pfeiffer.

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by Anonymousreply 34April 30, 2025 3:20 PM

I'd like to see "Charlie Chan and the Curse of the DRAG Queen."

by Anonymousreply 35April 30, 2025 3:40 PM

Don’t forget me!

by Anonymousreply 36April 30, 2025 3:51 PM

Mong Chong Ching Chong

by Anonymousreply 37April 30, 2025 3:53 PM

[quote] Don’t forget me! —Emma Stone

R13 didn’t.

by Anonymousreply 38April 30, 2025 4:15 PM

[quote]Does Yul Brynner as King of Siam count?

Of course, and so does Rex Harrison in the same role in the non-musical version.

by Anonymousreply 39April 30, 2025 5:27 PM

Swedish actor Max Von Sidow playing Ming the Merciless in the 1980 Flash Gordon movie.

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by Anonymousreply 40April 30, 2025 6:47 PM

R22 Yul Brynner was of partly Asian descent (Mongol) so he's given a pass here

[quote]Yul Brynner was born Yuliy Borisovich Briner on July 11, 1920, in the city of Vladivostok. He had Swiss-German, Russian, and Buryat (Mongol) ancestry. He also identified as having Roma ancestry; however, recent scholarship does not support that claim.

by Anonymousreply 41April 30, 2025 6:58 PM

"Juanita Hall in South Pacific AND in "Flower Drum Song." I guess she was Rodgers and Hammerstein's favorite fake Asian."

Roles for Asian actors were so scarce back then (unlike today -ha!) that there were very few in Equity. Producers of a big Broadway musical would often cast whomever they could find in smaller/chorus roles, but regularly used yellowface for leads. Richard Rodgers in particular was obsessed with singing voices. When he found Ed Kenney in Hawaii he struck gold -a very handsome man with an exquisite singing voice. But little acting experience. He was cast as the romantic lead in Flower Drum Song. Other Asians (though not necessarily Chinese) in the cast included Miyoshi Umeki, Keye Luke, Pat Suzuki, Patrick Adiarte, and Jack Soo. For the more comedic roles they went yellowface with Larry Blyden and Juanita Hall. Wouldn't fly today, but it was at least an attempt to cast Asian actors in Asian roles. This was seven years after The King and I, and shows that times were changing -albeit slowly.

By 1975, when Hal Prince was trying to cast Stephen Sondheim's Pacific Overtures things hadn't changed all that much. They had to give up completely on the idea of an all-Japanese cast, resorting to casting various Asian ethnicities. Some were only partly of Asian descent, and so middle names were used where needed to show the actor was truly Asian-American (Mark Hsu Syers, who would later appear as Magaldi in Evita as plain Mark Syers).

Serious question: With the heavy Kabuki makeup in Pacific Overtures, if they had used a couple of non-Asian actors would it still have been yellowface?

by Anonymousreply 42April 30, 2025 7:20 PM

This thread is full of happy talk.

by Anonymousreply 43May 1, 2025 9:03 PM

R43 Damn you! Now it's in my head!

by Anonymousreply 44May 1, 2025 9:16 PM

R42 I’m Asian, and the first time I saw Flower Drum Song Juanita Hall fooled me. At least in the Chop Suey number.

I was more distracted by Japanese Myoshi Umeka playing Chinese Mei Lei.

by Anonymousreply 45May 1, 2025 9:22 PM

R45, that’s the “delicate, some say the flower-like” Miyoshi Umeki.

by Anonymousreply 46May 1, 2025 9:41 PM

It's shocking that this kind of casting continued through the 80s.

by Anonymousreply 47May 1, 2025 9:44 PM

[quote] Swedish actor Max Von Sidow playing Ming the Merciless in the 1980 Flash Gordon movie.

Ming the Merciless is not from Asia; he is from the planet Mongo.

by Anonymousreply 48May 1, 2025 9:46 PM

I understand why people object to white actors in yellowface, but the obsession that all parts of a certain Asian national heritage must be played by actors of only that exact same national heritage makes no sense to me. Cher was not Italian-American but she won an Oscar for playing one in "Moonstruck," and her Italian-American mother was played by Olympia Dukakis, who also won an Oscar. Should they not have played those roles? Should Renee Zellweger not have played a Brit in "Bridget Jones's Diary" since she's American? If you start over-obsessing with this it gets to be ridiculous and no one takes you seriously anymore--it's just hairsplitting after a while.

by Anonymousreply 49May 1, 2025 9:51 PM

Charlie Chan was played by white actors but Number One Son by Asians, babel’s Keye Luke. Hell, they even did that type of casting in “Murder by Death”.

by Anonymousreply 50May 1, 2025 10:00 PM

[QUOTE]I understand why people object to white actors in yellowface, but the obsession that all parts of a certain Asian national heritage must be played by actors of only that exact same national heritage makes no sense to me.

It may not make sense to you or the majority of American movie goers, but films get released in populous Asian countries nowadays. A Chinese main character played by another Asian would stick out like a sore thumb.

by Anonymousreply 51May 1, 2025 10:17 PM

A German commercial for instant Chinese food, from 1988:

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by Anonymousreply 52May 1, 2025 10:41 PM

I consider myself pretty anti-woke, but I've never been able to watch Breakfast at Tiffany's past the first appearance of Mickey Rooney in the film. It's really bad.

by Anonymousreply 53May 1, 2025 10:52 PM

I want to punch the guy with glasses at R52 in the face really hard.

by Anonymousreply 54May 1, 2025 10:53 PM

[quote]I was more distracted by Japanese Myoshi Umeka playing Chinese Mei Lei.

But Japanese Jack Soo and James Shigeta were OK?

by Anonymousreply 55May 2, 2025 12:37 AM

[quote] playing Chinese Mei Lei.

I can play Chinese Taipei.

by Anonymousreply 56May 2, 2025 4:44 AM

[quote] I consider myself pretty anti-woke, but I've never been able to watch Breakfast at Tiffany's past the first appearance of Mickey Rooney in the film. It's really bad.

I grew up watching a lot of stupid British sitcoms and movies of the 1960s and 1970s , so Mickey Rooney was in that mode for me, just sort of madcap bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 57May 2, 2025 4:54 AM

Eye haf maake slanty eeeyes, leuck like chink. Fuuxk Kreestmas!

by Anonymousreply 58May 2, 2025 5:01 AM

r31 I actually like that example, because it shows the idiocy behind racism, and the Asian family subverts the stereotype. Same with It's Always Sunny, Dee does these stereotypical characters in yellowface and brownface, and she gets called out over it for being racist and looks like an idiot.

by Anonymousreply 59May 2, 2025 5:10 AM

That German commercial is appalling!!

by Anonymousreply 60May 3, 2025 7:43 PM
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by Anonymousreply 61May 4, 2025 3:15 PM

Cartman & Butters

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by Anonymousreply 62May 4, 2025 3:27 PM

To be precise, Shirley Maclaine in "My Geisha" played a Caucasian actress pretending to be Japanese to land the coveted lead in "Madame Butterfly."

by Anonymousreply 63May 4, 2025 3:29 PM

Miss Ball and Miss Vance.

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by Anonymousreply 64May 4, 2025 6:58 PM

[quote]Luise Rainer, The Good Earth

The Good Earth also had Paul Muni and a host of other Caucasian actors in yellowface.

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by Anonymousreply 65May 4, 2025 7:21 PM

[quote] As "Wang, the Farmer"

Haha. They said "Wang".

by Anonymousreply 66May 4, 2025 7:23 PM

Betty Grable performs "Japanese Girl Like American Boy", staged by Busby Berkeley of all people.

Nice tap finish with The Three Dunhills.

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by Anonymousreply 67May 5, 2025 8:26 PM

I didn't realize that David Carradine wasn't Asian until I was in my late 20's. My dad told me and I remember being shocked about that because he pulled it off so well. To me anyway. I remember John Wayne playing Genghis Kahn and how awful he was. My dad really liked John Wayne and didn't like it that I was laughing about that. I didn't know until now that the guy who played Charlie Chan wasn't Asian!

by Anonymousreply 68May 5, 2025 9:47 PM
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