Eurovision Song Contest 2025

First semi starts in five minutes and I have two job interviews in the morning, fucking kill me.

Anyway, the gays this year are: Austria, Belgium, Croatia, Czechia, Malta, Norway. I have strong suspicions about Cyprus too, but you know what they're like over there.

I'm happy Norway made it to the final.

Hard to reach the heights of those glory days of "Bing Tiddle Tiddle Bong," "Pif Paf Pof" and "My Lovely Horse."

The Norwegian twink with his most Eurovision song ever went through, no surprise there. The shocks qualifiers for me were Portugal with their mid song and San Marino with their ad jingle. I have rewatched the Cyprus guy delivering that high note with his butt in the camera a couple of times already, and I'll watch it again later.

Celine Dion must be in really poor shape if she can't even fly to Switzerland for a quick lip sync. That shitty disease must be progressing, I feel bad for her. But at least she called in with an apology.

Celine Dion Makes Surprise Appearance During First 2025 Eurovision Semi-Final:

R5 It all comes full circle!

Second semi tonight! Already cringing at the booing Israel's going to receive. They lifted the flag rule this year, so expect lots and lots of Palestinian flags everywhere.

Czechia is sending an impossibly tall and extremely handsome Slovak homosexual to represent them. He says he wants to find a boyfriend in Basel. Which is super relatable because don't we all just want to find a loaded partner somewhere in Switzerland and live out that Tina Turner life in peace.

I attended in Turin in 2022. Great fun, and I'd love to go again.

Yeah, those pre-Gaza Eurovisions were so much fun. Malmö earlier this week said Fuck No to hosting again if Sweden wins, they still have PTSD from last year. Probably because of the Dutch drama as well.

The Dutch kid is sweet but his song is so 1983.

It's so dated, plus the French parts of his song are just one clichéd phrase after another, making Frenchies everywhere cringe in the process. It's like something specifically made for a language learning class. Lyrics are at the link and you can immediately see what I'm talking about even if you don't speak French yourself.

I hardly paid attention other than Gabry Ponte represented San Marino but he’s Italian. I’m not lol if enough to follow their rules.

“lol if” I meant limber as in they really bend shit

I've always hated DJs at Eurovision and Ponte is no exception. His Tutta L'Italia "song" is a soulless stadium chant.

Last year was such an annoying shitshow that I think it turned me off from watching forever.

Italy for the win.

Here's a shocker: Kyle is NOT gay. He says he has only been with women, but won't rule out being with a guy in the future. I guess this means he is sexually fluid?

r17 Now that IS a shocker. I saw a Reddit comment where someone with insider info said he all but confirmed he was gay in the group chat all the participants are in.

He's only 19, is my explanation. I also was bisexual at that age. Not that those don't exist, but let's be real now – Kyle ain't one of them, he a showbiz homo through and through. He was basically bred for Eurovision.

R18 He literally says this:

[Quote]Jeg er åpen for forhold med samme kjønn, men per dags dato har jeg kun vært med motsatt kjønn. Jeg skal ikke utelukke noe.

English translation:

I am open to relationships with the same sex, but so far I have only been with the opposite sex. I won't rule out anything.

I mean, yes, that was also true for me at 19. It's not really indicative of anything, other people (i.e. bullies) clocked me as fully gay a decade before that already. And I'm calling it in his case as well. Let's wait a decade and check in with him then, that's all I'm gonna say.

Czechia's ADONXS apparently bombed yesterday's jury/rehearsal show. Sang off key, which is surprising because he nailed all the pre-parties. He came third to last in the audience poll afterwards.

Tonight should be interesting. I'm most excited about Australia, Finland, Britain, and Germany.

I know nothing about this guy. He could be 100% gay or he could be heteroflexible, but the "not ruling out" a same-sex relationship "in the future" statement is a cliché and the safest way for a celebrity to appear both securely hetero to their straight fans *and* open-minded enough to remain appealing to their 'queer' fans. Even Straighty McStraighterson Natalie Portman has used the tired old quote.

One thing is his "official" public statement and quite another his behaviour in the group chat and in those TikToks leading up to ESC week. He and the Austrian homo were basically Sissal's personal twinks during the entire pre-party season. She's the diva representing Denmark that all the gays naturally gravitate to. She got into some hot water last month because she took a snap of those two in her hotel room with her dildo out on the bed next to them. She obviously would never have done that with a straight 19-year-old hanging out with her.

Yawn

Kyle has a ton of chemistry with this guy.

r25 Kyle is half Spanish and is fluent in Spanish! So I'm sure they could chat about various things after fucking, but mostly showbiz.

He's a far better singer than J Kbello, though. Listen to his singing at this year's Benidorm, it's painful. If it wasn't for his looks...

R26 I didn't know until I watched this video. He is half Spanish and fluent in the language. That explains why he doesn't look very Norwegian, lol.

Eurovision fans in street interviews on Israel's participation:

Australia's Go-Jo is sex on legs, my god. Loves wearing blush on his cheeks, too. But totally straight, sadly.

Eurovision fans form a lovely, fun-loving, peaceful community. Always a great atmosphere at the event.

Ireland is represented by a Norwegian, Emmy Kristine Guttulsrud Kristiansen. She's singing about the dead space dog, Laika. So bizarre.

This is interesting. It's from Reddit:

[Quote]Estonian commentator accidentally said that Kyle is nine.

As expected, Adonxs completely messed it up. Oh, well. I can't believe Latvia and Luxembourg are my faves so far this evening. If you had told me this yesterday...

r32 Ha! Pretty funny.

New Spanish interview with Kyle.

They've obviously invested heavily into AI since last year, couldn't hear a single boo before, during, or after Israel's performance.

It wouldn't surprise me if Kyle was 9th in the semi final. He was way way down in the odds and everyone had him not qualifying or borderline (like could go either way). He was never among the favorites. 9th makes a lot of sense. Lets hope he does better in the final on Saturday. Sadly, if he is in the bottom I wouldn't be surprised. I sure hope I'm wrong though!

God, it feels so good to hear German again at Eurovision, especially with such a bomb song like Baller. More, more, again, again!

r36 Yeah, it's such a generic song, I wouldn't be surprised. Somewhere around mid to bottom is probably a given on Saturday.

Italians are mad at the Estonian…

r38 I still don't know why he chose Italian culture to mock when the turbocapitalist values his song is about are more American or South Korean in nature. Italians are famously laid-back if not outright lazy people, as evidenced by their forever sluggish economy. No offence to any Italians present.

The concept just isn't well thought through. However, I've read that he killed it in the WIkipedia searches on Tuesday. I wouldn't even be surprised if he won his semi.

I can't believe Australia and Czechia NQd! Czechia in particular was so high in the odds at one point.

And how did Armenia get through when he barely sang? Or Greece with that literal dirge and the severe hairstyle that makes her look like a troll?

I think the Luxembourg entry could win although a part if its melody sounds strangely similar to the bridge of “City of Stars” in La La Land.

Thank god Australia is out. It never deserved to be included in the Eurovision Song Contest in the first place.

I think Australia being included added to the show's quirky charm. There's also a large Eurovision fan base over there, apparently.

Shame to see Australia out--loved the campy chutzpah of the performance. Infinitely preferable to the cloying listlessness of the Austrian entry.

Kyle starts first in the final. He will for sure be in the bottom with that start number, sigh.

The Aussie is no Benson Boone.

Australia is not a full member of the European Broadcasting Union which is usually a requirement to participate. Israel, another couple of Asian countries and some North African countries are members. Morocco participated once. I guess the other eligible Arab countries don't because Israel is there.

Australia got rewarded with an invitation for having a loyal ESC audience for decades, and then they stayed because why the hell not. Also, we go through this every year, it's really not that big of a deal. It's just a fun song competition, not the UN Security Council. Only people on DL have ever had a problem with Australia participating, I've never noticed this elsewhere. Europeans love having them over for that one week.

Morocco is a different country today compared to when they participated. Those liberal elites that made that one year happen are long gone, the fundies rule the country now.

R47 It doesn't bother me that Australia competes. It's mildly annoying when I hear people getting assholey about Israel competing as though they're the only non-European country that does. That's something I've been hearing for decades. When I was in Israel in the early 80s, Jordan TV would go on break when Israel was on. My Israeli friends told me that when Israel would win, they would suddenly end the program without explanation.

r48 Yeah, I've heard that about Jordan before and it's so childish. I think Azerbaijan and Armenia engage in similar tactics to this day. It's more subtle than ending the programme though, because that's not allowed per EBU rules, all performances have to be shown in full. Greece and Turkey annoyed each other like that as well, before Turkey withdrew for good.

Australia sent their guy on a relentless PR tour of many European capitals in the run-up to this week and it did fuck-all for them. And that's in addition to all the TikTok content he put out, collaborating with other contestants. Just goes to show, it's hard to save a mid song. I've slept on it now and I realise his song was more sex talk than actual noises.

Sometimes miracles do happen and mid songs go through, see: Lithuania, Armenia, Portugal...

Celine Dion's private jet spotted in Basel, are we in for a surprise tomorrow?

She last performed at the runway show of fashion designer Elie Saab in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, on November 13th last year.

Looks healthy enough to me. Sounds amazing, too. Guess she'll do it for the right price.

I'd love for her to duet with Nemo Mettler on Ne partez pas sans moi or The Code.

When's the last last time Celine did a duet? I don't think so, honey.

I read a comment from someone saying Kyle has a girlfriend. I'm just baffled. How can he be straight when he pings so much?

He was basically Sissal's personal handbag during the entire pre-party season, no way does he have a girlfriend. It's probably a front for his parents or something.

Kyle's an Ariana Grande stan and is into fashion? Yet he claims to be straight? Ok then.

He's 19, right? Patience, pervs!

My favorite surprises from the semis:

1. Portugal getting in. I'd accepted that my favorite song of the competition was going no further.

2. Editing "Serving" made it more fun and waaaay less tacky. My pearls and I just couldn't with the original.

3. Armenia improved 100000% from their national final. I'd seen that clip first -- a pitchy shitshow -- so I'd completely ignored the song in the run-up. He totally served. [ahem]

4. Croatia's performance redeemed one of my least favorite songs of the year. (To no avail.)

5. That one string going rogue and getting caught in a Latvian chick's headpiece. Also really psyched they qualified.

The bummers:

1. Cyprus choking. I'd be happy to console him, however.

2. Czechia missing the cut. I don't think the staging fit the song (whose mood is dark, not blown-out white). Also wondering if it was too homoerotic for Czechia natural fan base.

3. Denmark making the cut. That song could have come out as-is in 2000. Yawn.

4. Australia missing the cut. But I think, again, the staging and performance worked against the vibe of the song. It wasn't louche and he couldn't recreate the sexytime vibe; it was simply goofy and none of the action brought the (admittedly stupid) lyrics to life.

The Cyprus guy brought the cutest little dancing twinks with him, shame they had to go home already.

Denmark got through on staging alone, and maybe the belting as well. It really is a dated song. But then so is Malta's.

You're right about all that white not really suiting Czechia's song. Why didn't he lean into his father leaving him and his mother when he was a small boy, like in the music video? On the other hand, look at what happened to our cancer song this year. So people don't always buy a sob story. I suspect (nay, hope!) France's stupid fucking mommy song will meet the same fate today.

The press ranked the songs. Norway is third last. Fuck this hurts. Kyle doesn't deserve it at all. Oh well. At least I won't have any expectations now. I seriously don't get the hate for the song. It's catchy and Kyle is adorable.

One crazy stat for those people always complaining about too much English at Eurovision: of the 16 songs in the final, only two are in English and one of those is Britain. The other one is of course Norway.

I rewatched the second semi earlier today and I have two more notes. First, Germany has actually an insanely good staging, although the dancers could be more animated. Second, Luxembourg's reveal towards the end is how you actually serve cunt, without having to announce you're serving it. Which is always the preferable way of serving cunt.

r61 I was shocked when Gåte, one my faves, came in dead last in Malmö. And even though I'm not feeling Kyle's song at all, I don't want to see him bomb either. Besides, those press rankings tend to correlate poorly to actual results, as do the audience polls. Anything can happen today.

Okay, I just realised most of Armenia's song is in English as well, and the Armenian parts are basically used as ethnic decoration. But whatever, it still counts.

R62 It's not just that one poll though, the fan reaction to the song has been negative. Everyone is hating on the song. I think this will be close to the main result tbh. I just hope I'm wrong.

Oh yeah, he didn't do that great in those OGAE rankings either, did he? I always ignore those, even though they provide reliable early warning signs and red flags. I'll pay more attention to them next year, but I think I say that every year and then just forget, lol.

I hope Germany do well, for once. A decent danceable song that actually works outside the Eurovision context - no overblown tricks and theatrics.

r66 And it's in German! Which last happened before Obama was elected president. That alone should be rewarded.

Speaking of crazy factoids, today will be the very first time the Latvian language will be heard at a Eurovision grand final.

[quote]of the 16 songs in the final, only two are in English

Okay, this stat was true only after the first semi, I got it from a comment that is now dated. Dumb blond bitch moment! Malta and Israel are in English as well.

BUMP

Her entry is badly placed in the line-up but I’d really like the cute lil gal from Luxembourg to end up in the Top 5. I can see her doing well with older voters.

r70 Yes! Glowups and excellence in general need to be rewarded. I will exempt Armenia from that point however, because the bitch can't sing.

Will anyone receive the Olly Alexander memorial prize and receive no votes from the public? That's still hilarious, his reaction was priceless.

Israel will do really well on the public vote, not least from casual viewers who just want to fuck off all the protesters and think it's really brave for the performer to appear after everything she has been through.

Watching the semi finals the two that caught my eye/my ear were the Austrian falsetto boy and the Luxembourg doll's house.

Yes, I think the UK this year might receive zero votes, again. And honestly, would you be surprised? Song sticks out like a sore thumb, and their staging is abysmal.

The only song I'm hoping bombs is France. All season I've been hearing stories of people sobbing over her lyrics, yet if you actually listen to the song, what she's basically saying is just "I used to be a kid and now I have my own kid." That's literally it. But isn't that a universal experience for most people on the planet who choose to have kids and aren't orphans?

Maybe it appeals to younger people with attachment issues or those into nostalgia songs, I don't know. It's just cloying nonsense to me.

Céline Dion is in Basel !!!

Is Nemo's performance edited like this to stop viewers seeing just how awful he looks in that tranny granny styling?

Yeah, Nemo has the absolute worst dressing style.

That Lithuanian band looks like a group of depressed North Koreans. Smile, for fuck sake!

I just tried to vote for Ireland after their brave campaign to get Israel kicked out.

Why can't I vote for Ireland? I loved their Nazi Barbie song from last year.

r79 You can't vote because Ireland didn't qualify for the final. She bombed in the semi, badly.

Spain and Slovenia are the other leaders of that gang that wants Israel out. Of those two, only Spain is performing today because it qualifies automatically.

By the way, the EBU has threatened Spain with fines if they repeat what they did in the semi, i.e. give out the number of Gaza casualties just before Israel performs. Messy bitches, lol.

Oh god, Tommy is winning this with his dumb macchiato song, isn't he?

[quote][R79] You can't vote because Ireland didn't qualify for the final.

I KNOW LOL

Two depressing songs in a row. We just need to survive Lithuania and we're good.

That Spanish prostitute wasn't very impressive.

A shame Spain always do so badly. You'd think that the continent would forgive their history of colonisation, slavery and mass murder.

Spain keeps trying to recreate Chanel's magic and it's just not happening.

Ukraine's song is objectively bad, I'm sorry.

Ukraine’s song sucks and its performer is a dour twink.

WEHT Conchita Wurst?

"We don't have feelings, we have money."

Any other Statesiders having volume problems with the feed?

r88 She's a judge on the German national selection every year. Was also on the UK radio yesterday with Graham Norton and Scott Mills discussing today's final.

[quote]Any other Statesiders having volume problems with the feed?

Apparently the sound is shit on Peacock every single year and they refuse to fix it.

What the hell just happened?

A godawful song screamed and shouted by three appalling limey slags, that’s what.

There's something quite spoof-like about Austria's performance, I'm not getting winner vibes at all.

I just want to bend those Icelandic twinks over my lap and spank the shit out of them, in a completely non-sexual way. They annoy me so much! But I also love them and hope they finish on the left side.

Also, Icelandic is so fucking goofy.

Legit kind of want Estonia to win

r95 Honestly, I gave him a fair shot for the first time today, and I liked every single second of it.

The Latvian space fairies' song is what a prolonged tantric orgasm must feel like. It's like warm honey poured directly over my brain.

The Austrian twink went off pitch several times.

The Dutch guy has so many things going for him, but man those lyrics are painful.

Is the Finnish lady a tranny? She looked like she came untucked in one of those shots/

Erika just came all over that stage. World's dirtiest milkmaid, god I love her so much.

Okay, who's gonna make Lucio a sammich?

His song is beautiful, so glad he's representing Italy and not that other guy. And the subtitles were such a good call.

Watching on Peacock and the sound is actually way better than most years - someone must have gotten the memo finally. It's too bad most of the songs suck so much this year that I wish they just left it as it was.

This Polish bitch is 50 years of age! Shovelling snow atop the Matterhorn in heels!

Okay, that was Laax, but still.

Okay, she's actually 52, which is even crazier.

Thanks, R103.

German sounds so cool when it's coming out of a Zoomer's mouth. Old people, not so much.

I asked ChatGPT to write a Eurovision song about Cheryl and her nephew Joel

She’s got stilettos in the snow,

Red lipstick and a heart that glows.

He’s got sneakers full of dreams,

Jumping through life like trampoline beams.

Auntie and nephew, hand in hand,

Spreading joy across the land.

From Belfast to Montenegro,

They twirl like a sweet tornado!

[Pre-Chorus]

When the world goes grey and cold,

They paint it gold, so bold.

Two hearts, one beat, one goal—

The rhythm of Cheryl and Joel!

[Chorus]

Ohhh Cheryl and Joel!

Spinning like a disco ball,

Crashing through the protocol—

They don’t care, they just stand tall!

Ohhh love’s out of control

When Cheryl and Joel

Are dancing through the world!

[Verse 2]

Joel says, “Auntie, take the lead,”

She laughs, “We’re flying at top speed!”

They ride a rainbow made of tunes,

Singing loud beneath the moon.

Backstage snacks and glitter rain,

Laughing through a midnight train.

No map, no plan, just vibes and soul,

Electric like Cheryl and Joel!

[Pre-Chorus]

No drama, just pure delight,

They’re the stars in neon light.

From morning sun to midnight stroll—

Everybody loves Cheryl and Joel!

[Chorus]

Ohhh Cheryl and Joel!

Spinning like a disco ball,

Crashing through the protocol—

They don’t care, they just stand tall!

Ohhh love’s out of control

When Cheryl and Joel

Are dancing through the world!

[Bridge – Breakdown]

(Whispered)

He brings the spark, she brings the style,

Together they go the extra mile…

He’s got the beats, she’s got the sass—

Eurovision? First class!

[Final Chorus – Big Key Change!]

Ohhh Cheryl and Joel! (Come on!)

Spinning like a disco ball (Hey!)

Crashing through the protocol (Let’s go!)

Rising every time they fall (Ohhh!)

Ohhh hearts on a roll—

It’s Cheryl and Joel,

Forever dancing through the world!

[Outro – Crowd Claps]

Cha-cha-cha with Cheryl,

Jump with Joel…

Together, they're unstoppable—

Let’s go Cheryl and Joel!

I know the UK's song is cringe, but they looked like they were having so much fun performing it.

Absolutely — here’s a Eurovision song about the iconic DataLounge website and its rich tapestry of memes, shade, and camp. It’s cheeky, theatrical, and written in a dramatic electropop/cabaret hybrid that nods to high drama, low gossip, and gay internet history. Title and tone? Think Conchita meets Aqua meets a gay Greek chorus.

🎤 Title: "Primetime Bitchery (Live from DataLounge)"

[Verse 1]

Step into the thread, where the shadows slay,

Anonymous queens throwing shade all day.

Oh look—someone bumped a post from 2003,

It’s Primetime Bitchery, pour the tea! ☕

Estrogen-charged and terminally online,

“Muriel’s watching!” — now get in line.

We fight, we flirt, we stan, we scream—

For Froy Gutierrez and a crabmeat dream. 🦀

[Pre-Chorus]

From Mediapolis to Frau-infested threads,

Oh, the wit is dry and the punchlines shred.

With a side of gossip, bleak and bold,

And tales of Cheryl, now long cold…

[Chorus]

🎶 Ohhh we’re dancing on the DataLounge,

Flaming queens and subtle scrounge.

From pointless bitchery to fame unearned,

We roast the world while it slowly burns!

Type with rage, post with glee—

This is gay history, anonymously!

On the stage of life, we play it large…

Now who's got the link to the Trolldar charge? 💅

[Verse 2]

Oh, taste the Schadenfreude stew,

“Is he gay?” — we’ll decide for you.

Erna’s drunk, and Eldergays sigh,

They miss when stars could really lie.

“WW2 was better than this thread.”

“FF this troll, I wish they were dead.”

From nipple piercings to Timothée memes,

We weave our rage into campy dreams.

[Pre-Chorus]

So peak behind the paywall if you dare,

Just don’t ask for a recipe — we don’t care!

Oh yes, we bite, and yes, we scroll,

Snarking our way to the Super Bowl!

[Chorus]

🎶 Ohhh we’re dancing on the DataLounge,

From tinfoil hats to closet hunch.

Old Hollywood blind items reign,

And no one’s hotter than David Blaine (???)

Post with venom, post with pride—

Even Larries can’t hide worldwide!

In the campy chaos, we’re in charge…

This is DL, baby — extra, at large! 🖥️🌈

[Bridge – Dramatic Key Change + Slow Ballad Build]

🎶 Somewhere in a thread that died at dawn,

Lies a truth...or just a troll gone wrong.

But we’ll keep searching, page by page—

For gossip, for love, for Julianne’s rage…

[Final Chorus – FULL GLITTER EXPLOSION]

🎶 Ohhh we’re dancing on the DataLounge,

Cheryl died but lives in punch.

We cancel stars, we bless the mess,

We live for drama and peak gay stress!

From Frau to Flame, from Bi to Banned—

This is Eurovision’s bitchiest band!

So post your soul, then hit “unwatch”…

You're on DL, babe — now clear your CROTCH! 💥

[Outro – Whispered Over Strings]

...and remember, Muriel sees all. 👁️

Fuck off you boring ChatGPT twat.

r109 They were like that through the whole pre-party season, which is why it's gonna suck so much seeing them bomb in the televote.

"I’m a survivor, Stay aliver"

Armenia, everyone.

Switzerland with the definitive French song of the night, and it's not even close.

I genuinely would not be mad if the Swiss won again with this, the loveliest of songs.

I miss Chiara. I hope she returns to Eurovision to represent Malta. All three of her songs were great.

I finally get the appeal of Portugal's song. It's classy, it's saudade, it's a salve for the soul.

Love Denmark's thunderthighs and she's a real character backstage, but this is the most generic torch song ever.

Only 4 more left. I'm doing this sober. If Celine doesn't materialise I'll be unhappy.

Only one guy in this Swedish trio is handsome. How did that happen?

R120 - the Swedish trio are from Finland. Yes, I know.

Oh yeah, I keep forgetting they're Finns. That for sure explains it.

They had to delay with this stadium bit for so long to get the sand ready for France, you see.

This is where Celine was supposed to perform, but we got these old legends singing instead. Oh, well.

I thought maybe the sudden Peacock cut-off was Dion performing. Which would have been evil.

That was a hot tranny mess, Nemo, what the fuck? Like a mental breakdown in slow motion, even Reddit hated it.

Also, I'm hearing reports that Celine has left the building. She had an agreement she could pull out at the last minute, which she now has.

I placed a total of 40 votes for Israel!! It was a total of €39.60 (had to be divided on 2 credi cards per the rules).

The new Nemo song is a bomb-o.

Lucio's English is just delightful.

Latest intel on Schrödinger's Celine is that she's just gonna hand the trophy to the winner.

Irish jury giving seven points to Israel, lol. So much for that.

*That's five more than they gave to the UK, what the fuck?

Sweden and Finland both getting massacred by the juries, that's hilarious. God only knows what's gonna happen in the televote now.

The UK thriving like nobody's business as well, what a shocker.

The UK zero points from the public. We all knew it was coming.

At least Sweden isn't going to win

Sweden and Finland both flopped in the televote AND the jury vote, I can't believe it.

Switzerland ZERO points from the public, this is beyond embarrassing!

AUSTRIA WINS!

Saved us from Israel's win by 70 points.

ÄTSCH!

*78 points

Thank GOD. The mess that would have ensued if they got 99 or less points? The hand wringing? The protest bullshit? Austria it is!

The Austrian guy looks like a Peruvian midget

I genuinely think it would have been the end of ESC for a year or two if Israel won.

Not a fan of Austria (both the song and their government), but at least a crisis is averted for one more year. Good job, neighbours!

Où es-tu, Céline!?

Nemo looks completely ridiculous as he hands the trophy to JJ. That huge fucking head on that twinkish body, plus the busted wig, eugh.

r144 Probably pulled out when she saw Nemo and heard all the booing for Israel.

What a voice! Well done and congratulations, Austria.

So there!

r148 That was so good.

r142 He's Filipino, so close. Kinda.

R162, he’s half filipino.

Israel's song was better than Austria's, but imagine the shitshow if Israel had won.

Oh man, what a kick in the balls for the continent-wide Hasbara campaign. What are they going to do with all those burner phones now?

Israel won the public vote, but the only country that gave Israel all of their jury votes (12) was Azerbaijan. Still they managed to place 2nd despite the war and protesting.

R153 You don't need burner phones to vote in Eurovision. You just need credit cards. Limit of 20 votes per credit card. No limits on phones. Is this some sort of Eurovision conspiracy theory? Putting politics aside, do you really believe Austria's performance was better than Israel's?

There's always a "did I dream that?" moment the morning after Eurovision, and this year it'll be the Italian mouse awarding the UK douze points.

It turns out Austria didn’t get 12 points by any of the tekevoting countries.

I voted for Israel. Liked her performance best. Almost gave some votes for Norway because he is a cute twink.

R158 You should have voted for Norway.

[quote]Oh man, what a kick in the balls for the continent-wide Hasbara campaign. What are they going to do with all those burner phones now?

The conspiracy theories about Mossad controlling the phone votes are just as funny as the Irish jury giving Israel a 7 points, obviously controlled by Mossad as well.

I guess when you're trapped in an echo chamber of anti Jewish obsession you don't look up and don't look out and understand why people across Europe might vote for a young woman who survived a massacre at music festival.

R160 The Mossad controlling the phone votes so Israel can win a song contest? Do people REALLY believe that? I've heard of conspiracy theories, but that takes the cake. You would have to be an idiot to believe that.

Woke up early this morning and got a lot of housework done while watching the YouTube recorded stream.

Nice to see singers with big voices and not much show doing so well, while most of the chubby chicks in leotards and hooker boots tanked. Great outcome, too, with Israel clearly winning the public vote while avoiding the drama that would have ensued had Israel won.

Kyle deserved better than 18th. I liked the song. I thought it was better than many of the others who did better. Oh well.

R163 I really do regret not giving him some votes. He's the cutest one for sure. I'm thinking Norwegians should make more children with Spaniards.

R161, it if involves Israel or Jews in general doing well there will always be a conspiracy theory.

People who live in a Jew obsessed online bubble just have no concept that the rest of the world don't feel consumed by the obsession in the way they do. Therefore there must be a nefarious reason when Israel does well. Like "burner phones". LOL.

A pretty young woman with a nice voice and a compelling back story singing a nice song with creative staging. That was enough for people to vote for her. That she is subject to a huge amount of abuse and has remained unbowed, unbent, unbroken is also a reason why people voted.

Maybe next year the pro-Pals can coordinate behind Ireland with their folksy ballad celebrating the Limerick pogroms.

I think it's hilarious that after everything, the Irish public gave Israel 10 points and the jury gave 7.

This year was disappointing. There’s not one song I’d listen to twice while there were about five songs from last year that stayed with me. The Eurodab collaboration song with Finland and Croatia from last year was the best song of the night.

Nice to see Bibi Netanyahu’s spokesman chiming in at r165.

The 'burner phones' comment was a joke, idiots. I suppose I will have to reconcile myself to the fact that text will these days always be interpreted in the most thuddingly literal way.

But of course there was an organised campaign to impact the vote from people who care little about the song contest but very much about the politics of the Middle East. One of them even posted here at R127. This would have been pretty easy to accomplish without the involvement of Mossad, though. There have been similar campaigns to impact the results of American Idol and the X Factor over the years, masterminded not by a secret service but by the likes of Howard Stern.

By the way, if the International Court of Justice do eventually make a final ruling that Israel has been committing genocide in Gaza - as I think is very probable - Eurovision's decision to let them participate in such a huge international event for the past two years is going to look excruciatingly awful: probably totally without historical precedent, in fact. If the EBU leadership are smart they'll have started quietly thinking about their exits already.

I agree Concerned European. No doubt there was an organized campaign AGAINST Israel. I saw a lot of it online.

Schabatoge!

The dude on the left looks more female than the due on the right ever will.

is going to look excruciatingly awful: probably totally without historical precedent, in fact.….

Hysterics…no one will give a shit tomorrow, until next year.

Another singing capon wins. This is getting ridiculous.

R172 I hadn't read anything about him when I first saw the performance. I really thought he was a F2M that hadn't gone on testosterone. I'm not trying to be rude, that is what I figured he was. He looked to me like a woman trying to appear male or non-binary, but with the castrato/countertenor voice, I figured he wasn't on T.

[quote] probably totally without historical precedent, in fact

Eurovision is almost 70 years old has covered a period involving countries sending acts fighting in numerous brutal European decolonisation wars, Turkish actions against the Kurds, Vietnam, Gulf Wars, and 50 years of other Israeli actions against the Palestinians. You don't even have to look outside Eurovision for precedent.

I was pleased that two of the songs that musically stand up on their own merits - Ukraine and Germany - managed to do respectably in both the jury and the popular votes.

Ukraine's 'The Little Prince' energy kind of melted my cynical heart.

R170 Indeed there was, but its objective was to get people not to watch Eurovision at all due to Israel's participation. It probably had a limited impact on the vote given that if those who didn't watch had done so and voted their votes would have been spread around all the other competitors in any case. The system makes it much easier for a smaller but highly-motivated group of Israel supporters to have an outsized impact on the final result.

R176 I don't think any of those could plausibly be called acts of genocide (and the French Indochina war predates Eurovision).

That said I do think you raise an interesting comparison with your Turkish example, given that there was a longstanding project of suppression of the Kurdish language and Kurdish identity in favour of assimilation with Turkey, albeit not accompanied by systematic mass murder

It'll be interesting to see what the final viewing figures were like. Last year was pretty similar to 2023

Were there Jewish lasers involved? Elders of Zion?

Let’s skip the conspiracy theories. They’re not a good look on you.

The obsession with Israel really does rot the brain.

If the reason for Israel's continued success is that it's easy to focus support behind a single entry Ireland should bite the bullet and host a pro Pal entry next year. Get Charlotte O'Church to sing it with a shaved head that embodies the spirit of Sinead and Dolores. All that pro-Pal support across Europe behind a single country. A surefire winner.

🌿 My keffiyeh is my shamrock

Worn with hope and carried high

Bound by struggle, soul to soul

Underneath the same wide sky

From Derry’s walls to Rafah’s streets

We dance to the defiant beat

🌿 My keffiyeh is my shamrock

It’s who I am, it’s what I cry

R174 this is the trans agenda of pushing feminine males, telling boys that in order to be successful you have to have high voices and appear like the fat opera lady but in twink form.

R182 Very cute mate, I'm glad a discussion about genocide has inspired such creativity in you.

It's a lovey sunny day - why not have a wank over some October 7th videos to clear your head and then go for a walk and enjoy the sunshine?

I don't think Israel coming second was rigged. The song wasn't great but people vote for countries who are at war. Same with Ukraine.

In fact, if I were a conspiracy theorist I'd say it was rigged against an Israel win, because it wouldn't be worth the massive boycott that would take place.

It’s a stupid pan-national reality-variety special. It ain't genocide…although many of the songs are THAT bad.

Last year the 9 countries who gave Israel the fewest points were Croatia, Ukraine, Armenia, Serbia, Lithuania, Malta, Poland, Estonia and Norway.

This year the 9 countries who gave Israel the fewest points were Croatia, Ukraine, Armenia, Serbia, Lithuania, Malta, Poland, Estonia and Iceland.

Israel gave Ukraine 22 out of 24 points in the last two years. Ukraine gave Israel 1 out of 24 points in the last two years.

If a country was really interested in rigging the result surely they'd have set up some phone banks in those countries to register points for themselves.

I don't think it was rigged in Israel's favour. I imagine many Europeans see support for Palestine as another instance of Muslims being appeased. (I know that the reality it's far more complicated than that.) Plus, a lot of people have no interest in international politics and will simply have voted for Israel because they liked the song.

Imagine that?! Just picking a song you like.

[quote] It’s a stupid pan-national reality-variety special. It ain't genocide…although many of the songs are THAT bad.

Last year's entry from Finland bordered on genocide.

Miss Denmark is a thickums

Good lord. Every single song is off key caterwauling.

How do they pick which gays get to hold the flag when they cut to a shot of a country’s fans?

Israel’s song has the only melody I still remember.

The Latvian song was giving me flashbacks to the Bulgarian Women's Choir......the dance remix version

Sweden flopping brings me such joy, their fans were unbearable during the entire season, acting like it's a runaway favourite. The Swedish ego definitely took a beating on Sunday.

Slightly gooped by Albania's success, I don't understand what's happening in that song at all.

Finland outside of the Top 10 hurts the most.

Oh god, I'm looking at the semi results right now and Sweden came in fourth, after Albania! Flop of the year, those Melfest ficuses who were upset by KAJ's win must be celebrating right now. Måns was right all along, despite being a domestic abuser and an all-around douchebag. He said he was going to be vindicated in May and he was right!

Austria fifth in the semi reflects what happened in the final, i.e. he was far from being the public's winner. A jury darling through and through.

This is fun:

r199 Funny that the Austrians were the only ones who fucked up the Te Deum start.

Irish broadcaster RTÉ requests breakdown of Eurovision voting numbers

RTÉ has requested a breakdown in Eurovision voting numbers from the European Broadcast Union (EBU) and its voting partner Once.

It comes after Spain's public broadcaster, Radio Televisión Española (RTVE), called for a "complete review" of the voting system to "avoid external interference and manipulation", referencing votes received by Israel in the public vote.

RTVE President José Pablo López said he had "expressed great concern about Israel's participation, transparency, legitimacy and perceived integrity of the current voting system".

Flemish public broadcaster VRT also said it was "demanding full transparency" from the EBU in relation to the televoting during Saturday's final.

Televoters in both Spain and Belgium awarded Israel 12 points, while their juries gave the country zero points.

Ireland, meanwhile, awarded Israel 10 points in the televote and seven points from the Irish jury.

Overall, the Israeli entry, Yuval Raphael, finished second in the contest with her song New Day Will Rise.

Austria's entry JJ took home the trophy with 436 points, ahead of Israel on 357 points.

The Irish are obsessed with Israel. Obsessed.

It's a shame their obsession can't be translated into musical creativity or international popularity.

It's not just the Irish, the Spanish PM said yesterday Israel should be booted. Finland and Belgium have also requested something be done about the voting.

Of course, no country will actually boycott the contest over this, so Israel's continued participation is virtually guaranteed.

Yeah, the Irish. Infamous for their lack of musical creativity or international popularity.

Love and kisses...

U2, Van Morrison, Sinead O'Connor, Thin Lizzy, The Cranberries, The Pogues, Fontaines DC, The Undertones, Clannad, Enya, Hozier, The Chieftan, The Corrs, Westlife, The Boomtown Rats, Gary Moore, Gilbert O'Sullivan, Roisin Murphy, Snow Patrol,...

Oh, yeah, and they've won the ESC 7 times - joint highest with Sweden.

The true scandal is the jury's obsession with tah caterwauling Austrian.

The response to countries giving Israel in their phone vote reminds me of election results. "I can't believe XXXX won, no one I know voted for him". Yeah love, people you know did vote for XXXX they just don't want to tell you because they don't want to discuss it with you because they think you're a cunt.

Everyone called it jury bait when it came out and that's exactly what happened. It's like Nemo on steroids.

Hopefully they've gotten that out of their system now and we can return to some other genre next year.

[quote]Moments after Israel was announced as the second-place winner in the Eurovision Song Contest in the early hours of Sunday morning, air raid sirens blared across central and coastal regions following the detection of a missile launch from Yemen. The missile was successfully intercepted, and no injuries were reported.

r204 That's true and people ARE hopelessly trapped in their own online bubbles. It was especially entertaining looking at Reddit and seeing all those Zoomers having a meltdown on Sunday because they were faced with the realities of global geopolitics, probably for the first time ever.

However, the election analogy isn't the best because every person here gets 40 votes. Or rather, every credit (SIM?) card gets forty votes, so a person could in theory vote even more times than that. You have to admit that's a bit excessive.

Sorry, I meant to reference r206 with that.

It would be hilarious if "irregularities" were found and that Israel actually won. 🤣

Anything to make the Swiss a bit of extra money

Spanish exposé about what went on after last year's ESC. Just use Google Translate if you're interested in reading the whole thing, it's pretty juicy.

[quote]At verTele we have had access to the 'warning notice' letter that the EBU sent to the Israeli channel KAN for its attitude at Eurovision 2024, as well as the report resulting from the independent investigation that was carried out after the festival, and the document with which the EBU transferred these 'recommendations' to its 'roadmap'... to not follow it in this edition.

[quote]To expel Russia, the organization relied on the fact that several member countries had requested its expulsion. This time, however, Spain, Slovenia, Iceland, and Ireland only asked to "open a debate," which the EBU dismissed by committing to "in due course," once again opting for the strategy of dodging the issue and allowing the festival to take place.

[quote]Yeah, the Irish. Infamous for their lack of musical creativity or international popularity.

[quote]Love and kisses...

[quote]U2, Van Morrison, Sinead O'Connor, Thin Lizzy, The Cranberries, The Pogues, Fontaines DC, The Undertones, Clannad, Enya, Hozier, The Chieftan, The Corrs, Westlife, The Boomtown Rats, Gary Moore, Gilbert O'Sullivan, Roisin Murphy, Snow Patrol,...

[quote]Oh, yeah, and they've won the ESC 7 times - joint highest with Sweden.

Yeah since the 90s when they won four times in five years and came second once what have they done since? They've been even less successful than the United Kingdom.

Since the semi finals introduced they automatically qualified twice, they qualified through voting 7 times and didn't qualify for the finals 12 times. And of those 9 final appearances they came last twice. They've had 3 top 10 finishes in the last 20 years.

But yeah everyone loves the Irish!

One word, two has-beens: JEDWARD.

Yeah, Bambie Thug last year was an aberration, she did her own staging. Ireland fucking sucks at modern-day Eurovision because of all those old ficuses at RTÉ who refuse to change course.

As for their contemporary music output... it also seems like a whole bunch of nothing over the past decade or two, especially compared to what came before. Like, am I crazy for thinking that? If you remove all those legacy acts, there's not much there.

This is a civilised discussion - please don't bring those twincest wannabes into the discussion.

It's so cute some of you believe that modern Eurovision has anything to do with 'musical credibility'.

One of the reasons Ireland stopped sending credible acts is that the cost of hosting the competition so many times in the 90s nearly bankrupted RTE. You seriously think when they send the likes of Jedward (twice) and Dustin The Turkey, they're taking the contest seriously?

That's why I specifically mentioned their national music output in the second paragraph as well. The two are mirrors of each other.

[quote]U2, Van Morrison, Sinead O'Connor, Thin Lizzy, The Cranberries, The Pogues, Fontaines DC, The Undertones, Clannad, Enya, Hozier, The Chieftan, The Corrs, Westlife, The Boomtown Rats, Gary Moore, Gilbert O'Sullivan, Roisin Murphy, Snow Patrol,...

And that's not even counting all those musicians born in Britain of Irish-born parents or with direct Irish ancestry: John Lennon, Elvis Costello, Kevin Rowland/Dexys Midnight Runners, Morrissey/Marr (né Maher, parents emigrated from Co. Kildare), Dusty Springfield (two Irish parents), Oasis (sorry!), Shane MacGowan/The Pogues, Kate Bush (Irish mother from Co. Waterford), John Lydon (two Irish parents), David Bowie (Irish great-grandparents).

[quote]You seriously think when they send the likes of Jedward (twice) and Dustin The Turkey, they're taking the contest seriously?

Oh for fuck sake, they're not sending those acts because they're not taking ESC seriously. They're sending them because they literally do not care. And they don't care because of a vicious cycle of sending shit acts and the stale institutional governance at RTÉ. Watch ESC Tom on YouTube and you'll learn a thing or two about his country at Eurovision.

[quote]This is a civilised discussion - please don't bring those twincest wannabes into the discussion.

Apologies.

Errrm... 'not taking ESC seriously' = 'literally do not care'

Also, Jedward were at Eurovision 14 years ago and Dustin 17 years ago. So not one example from the past decade.

[quote]It's so cute some of you believe that modern Eurovision has anything to do with 'musical credibility'.

It's even cuter that you put "musical credibility" in quotes when no one has used that phrase in this thread.

I did say "musical creativity" which does contain some of the same letters and the same number of syllables. Many of the songs that have done well over the last few years are incredibly creative both in style and visual presentation.

Austria's Eurovision winner wants 2026 edition 'without Israel'

Johannes Pietsch also expressed regret over Israel’s participation in 2025 contest despite the war in Gaza

This year’s Eurovision song contest winner, Austrian singer JJ, has called for Israel to be excluded from next year’s competition. He also expressed regret over Israel’s participation in this year’s competition despite the war in Gaza.

Eurovision has faced criticism for allowing Israel to participate in the contest despite the devastating Gaza war. This year, pro-Palestinian activists staged protests during the extravaganza in Switzerland over the weekend. Russia has not been allowed to participate in Eurovision since its 2022 invasion of Ukraine.

Yuval Raphael represents Israel with the song New Day Will Rise during the grand final of the Eurovision Song Contest 2025.

“It is very disappointing to see that Israel continues to participate in the contest,” the 24-year-old countertenor told Spanish daily El País in an interview. “I would like next year’s Eurovision to take place in Vienna without Israel,” he added.

JJ issued a partial retraction of his words to the Austria Press Agency (APA). "I'm sorry if my words have been misunderstood," he said.

"While I criticize the Israeli government, I condemn all forms of violence directed at civilians in the world, whether against Israelis or Palestinians. I will not say anything more on this issue," he concluded.

How various stations slotted in commercial breaks during the ESC:

I'd be up for a DL Vienna Eurovision meetup next year, but I suspect I may be the only one.

The Austrian twink forgot that he would be killed in Palestine for being an Austrian twink.

R230 Looking like a girl the way he does, he would be gang raped (they wouldn't consider sodomizing against his will to be gay) and then they would kill him.

From hostages to Houthis, there are many wins Israel can use. But a campy song contest that would have given anti-Israel voices a fresh stage to air their hate is not one of them.

I still think about the sexy chachacha guy from 2023....

The list of most votes from non-participating countries has been revealed and it's topped by the US and Canada.

I think someone wants an invitation!

Can any one of you hum (or do you remember the lyrics to) this year's winning song? At least Duncan Laurence's "Arcade" (2019) had a melody that stuck and wasn't instantly forgettable.

I can hum the techno bit at the end, but that's about it. Pure jury bait, there's a reason it came fourth in the televote.

[quote]Can any one of you hum (or do you remember the lyrics to) this year's winning song? At least Duncan Laurence's "Arcade" (2019) had a melody that stuck and wasn't instantly forgettable.

Heathcliff, it's me, it's Cath-eeee, I've come home, let me in your windooooooh

Can't forget sexy Damiano and Maneskin winning ESC for Italy in 2021:

A lifetime later I can still sing "Viva la diva, viva Victoria, Aphrodite ..." but all that's left of this year's winner is the transman-looking dude hitting high notes on a CGI sailboat.

The boat was practical, the storm in the back was CG. And we'll never know who the actual winner would have been without Israel siphoning off so many of the votes. Probably not Austria, though.

In other news, this year got 166 million viewers, 4 million more than last year.

I think Kyle is dating this guy.

r241 Oof, he's hot. And of course he went straight for a chiselled blond Norwegian model, lol. Good for him though, now is the perfect age to fuck around with models.

In other news, the brother in the Austrian sibling duo that represented Germany this year has been unmasked as a huge homophobe and Trump supporter via a Reddit account he deleted yesterday. His Hungarian parents clearly taught him well.

R242 Yes. And the model is also posting Kyle on his account. I think Kyle will come out after exams. He is still in his last year of high school. My guess is he will come out after graduation. It would be perfect if he came out during Pride. He was still denying being gay only a month ago. Well... he said he has only had girlfriends, but wouldn't rule anything out in the future. Basically a non-denial denial.

That photo on the bus is so hot, the way he has his hand on Kyle's hip. Feel a bit bad for the third wheel friend, though. They're already dressing like twins in that first photo, so they're moving fast!

It's hard to stay closeted once the models start knocking at your door and you're a horny teen. I'm sure his Insta got flooded with offers from all over Norway and beyond after he appear in the ESC final. This is one of those rarely mentioned perks of appearing at the Gay Olympics.

The model is somewhat assless, but I don't think that will bother Kyle. For now. And he makes up for it with sheer height.

R245 It's obvious Kyle is the bottom in that relationship.

They're NOT doing anal! Light pecks on the cheeks only! And maybe an occasional handy-j.

Kyle's comment👀 I guess they're official.

A GAY Austrian Twink, R230. But maybe they let him live a little as a useful idiot.

r248 Lana fan since Ultraviolence, nice.

Posts like those make me want to be a teenager again, which doesn't happen very often. I want to drink mind-numbingly expensive coffee in Oslo with my boyfriend on a sunny day while not having not a care in the world as well!

R250 I was just gonna say that his insta story makes it official, with Lana singing "my boyfriend's pretty cool." I'm happy for him.

The speculation is so annoying. I wish he would just confirm it already. Maybe they aren't official yet, and that's why he won't. My theory is they are casually dating, they are not yet together, aka boyfriends. Since they haven't defined their relationship yet they won't say anything. But my opinion is that they are close. Maybe they will just see if it works out before committing and making it official.

He removed his bf/friend/whatever's tag. I guess they didn't like the speculation.

Now I get why Kyle removed his friend's tag. I don't think it's because people are speculating they might be together. Heck, they even joked about it themselves (whether it's true or not). I think it's more due to the fact that the friend is getting a lot of hate. People are calling him a golddigger.

Welp... they just unfollowed each other. That didn't last long.

r255 Yikes! It's like a Norwegian telenovela, lol.

R256 Seems like they didn't unfollow each other after all. It just didn't show up for me. Weird. He did remove B's tag though. Wonder why?

And now the tag is back lmao. Is he playing with us or is insta just buggy?

Kyle said they're just friends.

His relatives found out and he probably just freaked out. And no, you don't hold your friends like he holds Kyle in that bus photo, they were/are clearly something more.

R260 Agree. There's no way they're just friends. Have no idea why he would deny it though, but he probably has his reasons.

Apparently B's ex said they were together. I knew Kyle lied about it. It's very obvious they are more than friends.