The World Boycotts the US

We deserve nothing less.

Can't blame them and glad they are doing it.

America showed its ass when it re-elected this unhinged criminal pathological liar to reign over us like a king. I tried to love the US for all its flaws but no more. I hate what this miserable, ugly place has become (and probably always was).

Well if things turn momentarily warm with Russia I can go to Moscow and St. Petersburg. I so want to go to the Hermitage. Then WWlll can happen. If you haven't seen Russian Ark you must. A fabulous movie. I still have no idea how they did it.

Totally. And the unintended affect is the world rushing away from authoritarian leaders and leaning to the left

I would too. It’s beyond shameful that we (collectively) elected him knowing he intended to do what he’s now doing.

Bring the pain. Sorry not sorry.

I hope the anti-US sentiment and boycotts (totally deserved) will have an effect. This country is disgusting.

A worsening trade imbalance will then require higher tariffs on foreign goods to reduce it, so fewer goods from those countries will be sold. There’s no winner.

Keep your asses out of Europe, they will spit in your food and put bed bugs in your luggage, you have been warned.

I want to see sanctions levied against us.

Can’t blame them.

I do hope the maggots who worship their mad king and his ketamine addicted jester get hit the hardest, tho.

They probably won’t, since most of them work retail or unskilled labor.

The Canadian boycott of US bourbon, however, is kicking turtle right in in his desiccated pecker. I love that for him.

[quote]America showed its ass when it re-elected this unhinged criminal pathological liar to reign over us like a king.

It didn't, r3, it was rigged.

R11, alas we are all in this together

I’ll have to pretend I’m Canadian when traveling internationally.

I already do. Too ashamed to have anyone think I was a citizen of this shit cuntry*.

My husband and I left Boston 12 years ago to move back to New York to take care of his aging parents. We used to travel all the time, but put our life on hold for them. His mother passed in 2017 and his father in 2023.

Since it’s our 40th anniversary this August, we booked a Scandinavian cruise to celebrate (well before election day).

It looks like it’s time to cancel before the final payment is due in May. I could cry over what’s become of this god forsaken country.

Why would you cancel, R16?

We don't generally hang around where we're not welcome.

I think that's unnecessary, R18. They still want your tourist dollars. Think of it as something you can give back rather than cheating yourself out of a trip, which makes no sense.

The US became disgusting (so did Canada and Europe) when radicalism on both sides took over. The radical right led people to the radical left. The radical left led people to the radical right, which led to the current administration. Nothing occurs in isolation. What is happening today is because of what happened yesterday and a week ago, a month ago, a year ago etc.

People have no memory so they only focus on what's happening now, because they can't remember everything that led up to NOW.

Trump's election is everyone's fault.

[quote] We don't generally hang around where we're not welcome.

I understand. I have a cruise in 2026 that visits Vancouver that I’m now wary of. It’s good not to travel to where there is so much hate toward the U.S.

[quote] Trump's election is everyone's fault.

No, it isn't. We're all going to suffer but it's not all our fault.

What do you think is going to happen? I'm in Europe and while we might be looking at developments in the US open-mouthed, we're not going to chuck bricks at American tourists.

I think the worst that might happen is you might have some awkward conversations at a dinner table if you befriended some non-Americans and the topic turned to politics. But unless you're walking around in a MAGA hat and calling everyone cunts, you'll be fine.

We’re going to Japan in June and got a good deal flying through Montreal on Air Canada. When I bought the tickets last fall I never dreamed we’d be in this position with the rest of the world. Now I am worried the airline is going to pull out of this market for the flight from Atlanta to Montreal due to fewer Canadians traveling to the USA and our trip will be cancelled.

[quote] I'm in Europe and while we might be looking at developments in the US open-mouthed, we're not going to chuck bricks at American tourists.

You literally can only speak for yourself. You can’t say there won’t be anyone acting on all the hate toward the U.S., and there’s plenty of things Europeans could do to make their guests’ experience very unpleasant short of throwing a brick.

[quote]The US became disgusting (so did Canada and Europe) when radicalism on both sides took over.

Take your bothsides and shove it, r20.

Do you have flight insurance, R24?

I'm American and I'm going out of my way now to buy non-American products.

R25 If anything, American tourists will be met with pity rather than outright hostility.

Trump is a buffoon acting like a child. I think the anger is justified.

But the truth is, ubfernatiin trade is in fact unfair, and I say that as someone with a small business who ships worldwide. It’s not true of all counties but it’s certainly true of some in question.

Canada? Not really. Mexico? I can’t speak to that as Mexicans don’t buy my product.

The UK? Absolutely. They require that you as a non-UK seller withhold VAT and pay it quarterly to the UK. In order to do that, you have to register with the UK government. Have fun with that, as a small seller outside the UK.

The EU? It has the same VAT situation as above, but add to that the new GPSR, a product safety regulation requiring an INSANE amount of paperwork, and also requiring you have a registered agent in the EU. It is so onerous and impractical that I can no longer sell to the EU.

Add customs duties in both the EU and UK which have a much lower threshold than what the U.S. charges.

Meanwhile my UK and EU competitors can sell into the U.S. market and the products sail right in, no hassles, no expenses to the customer on less than around $2000 of goods.

It’s patently unfair and protectionist.

I’ve long waited for a U.S. administration to address this. What do I get? An utter moron who blindly flings tariffs around with no sense of proportion, then cancels them, then starts them again, then ….

^^^ international, not “ ubfernatiin” of course

Makes sense. A large part of what makes the US appealing is the belief or appearance of striving towards equality, opportunity for all and lifting of the dispossessed. Chuck that out the window and all you have left is a bunch of money grubbing cunts, nothing special.

R26 There's no radical left and radical right?

Keep denying your part (radical left) in the rise of MAGAs.

Wokes and MAGAs are two sides of the same coin.

Both are mentally ill.

Keep digging yourself even deeper, r33.

R34 Keep being in denial and avoid answering my questions.

Keep calling women "birthing people" and see if a Democrat dethrones Trump next time.

R16, R21 et al: I wonder. Prices for transatlantic and European cruise departures this spring and summer appear to have dropped, in some cases considerably. HAL has three transits, 14-16 days this spring with lead prices starting at $799 pp. Looming recession coming or Americans concerned about their reception abroad? Lots of sweeteners (onboard credits, free excursions, drink and WiFi packages discounted, etc) on offer with different lines as well.

Tariffs don't work and we live in a global economy. I guess multi-failed/bankrupt Dunold Dump wouldn't know this.

Good! I love our country but the only way to stop this madness is to cause as much pain to MAGA as possible. It will hurt us, too, of course. But I’m willing to take that pain in order to destroy Trump and his lackeys.

I love how these countries are apologizing to blue states for taking the actions. They know we’re not the assholes.

[quote]I love how these countries are apologizing to blue states for taking the actions. They know we’re not the assholes.

It would be great if our passports were blue or red depending on our home state. I know that's unfair to the red staters who voted for Harris (and obscene to the blue staters who voted for Trump), but I'd feel a lot better about international travel with it right now.

[quote]If anything, American tourists will be met with pity rather than outright hostility.

I'll take it...I feel pretty pitiful right now!

Keep trolling, r35.

America deserves the pain it gets

I'm American and I stand with everyone boycotting the US.

The troll at R33/R35 is so fucking tiresome, constantly spewing his inane and insane garbage as if it were the gospel truth.

Please, please get a frontal lobotomy ASAP, R33/R35. Do it for posterity and humanity.

I think most non-Americans understand the situation. Hate to say it, but a lot of Americans think of the world as Us and Everybody Else. People in foreign countries seem to have a more balanced view of the world as interconnected countries.

I meet up annually in Las Vegas with friends from the UK, Germany, and Canada. The Canadians have canceled this year and invited everyone to visit them instead. The UK and Germany folks are still coming, but I have real concerns about next year unless we do it in Canada or Europe.

A friend who goes to London once a year is there now. I just texted her to see if people have approached her to talk about American politics this time around.

I'm guessing 80% of all Americans and 99% of MAGATs couldm't locate Uruguay or Poland on a map.

So much for Americans' world view.

The troll on this thread must be Russian. They're world champions in bothsiderism. Putin would be proud of him.

I’d suggest that a lot of them couldn’t locate USA on a map.

no one wins a trade war

[Quote] The troll on this thread must be Russian.

No, it’s the same old troll as usual. He looks like a frog and takes weekend trips to photograph scenic decay in the rust belt.

Why alone? Because he looks like a frog. And he’s rightwing AND gay.

Oh, the drunkard from Pittsburgh who lusts after straight guys?

I think we might be met with a little pity in Europe too. Don't be super loud and rude and it's OK. I'd had a few gentle inquiries about our politics. They know the US is a large place with different regions and political persuasions (sort of?). An American visitor trying to do a little respectful cultural immersion is better than some of our red hat fellow citizens who aren't coming over. And some of people you encounter aboard are just happy for tourist money no questions asked.

None other, r51

I just tell people I'm Esoteric.

Yes. It’s understandable.

[quote]I understand. I have a cruise in 2026 that visits Vancouver that I’m now wary of.

This could help cruise lines to avoid having to stop in Canada during Alaska cruises, especially with tensions rising.

An archived NYTimes story describes 'Buy American' boycotts

[quote]But Europeans’ anguish over Mr. Trump’s treatment of America’s longtime allies has hardened as he has moved to rewire world trade with steep global tariffs, the central bank found.

[quote]And even if a trade deal is reached, Europe’s newfound wariness of its longtime ally will not easily be unwound. The E.C.B. study found that even if a mere 5 percent tax were placed on American products sold in Europe, Europeans would still be inclined to shun them. What is new, the central bank said, is a “preference” among European consumers “to move away from U.S. products and brands altogether,” no matter what the cost. That was the case even for households that could bear the brunt of higher prices.

[quote]“Even though they could afford more expensive U.S. products and services, they consciously choose alternatives,” the bank said. “This suggests that consumers’ reactions may not just be a temporary response to tariff increases, but instead signal a possible long-term structural shift in consumer preferences away from U.S. products and brands.”

I've even switched AI chatbots – from Google's Gemini and Microsoft's Copilot, to French Mistral (Le Chat). Fuck American corporations.

The only person who really benefits from all this chaos and destroying generations long alliances and creating economic calamity in the west is Putin.

He makes Cuba into Trump Casinos.

[quote]The only person who really benefits from all this chaos and destroying generations long alliances and creating economic calamity in the west is Putin.

True enough. For you to punish me rarely benefits you, or vice versa. It's a show or principal and warning. Unfortunately making Putin the target of a homegrown consumer products boycott doesn't work on any level except possibly to amuse him.

I knew about Trump and his Russian nexus since the 1990s. So much of what is going on so far fits into the Russian asset dynamics.

Sure it is, r62, but you’ll never see Fux telling the rubes that.

Denmark very cool in offering a way out for some intelligent Americans.

Related to R64's point, this from France and the EU...

[quote]EU announces €500 million package to woo scientists away from Trump's America

[quote]French President Emmanuel Macron and EU Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen held a conference in Paris Monday aimed at attracting US researchers. In her remarks, von der Leyen announced a two-year €500 million package to encourage American experts to relocate to Europe. Macron then doubled up on the European message saying: “If you love freedom, come and do research here”.

[quote]Denmark very cool in offering a way out for some intelligent Americans.

Could they also take 73 million stupid Americans?

[Quote] Could they also take 73 million stupid Americans?

No need. They’re currently corralled in the United States and away from us.

Yeah, the market for 73 million stupid Americans - or as we call them, “Americans” - is rather small.

Good news

Denmark is offering scientists an alternative to the US, where the current government not only doesn't value science or expertise, but they are going out of their way to demolish knowledge and facts.

Canadian universities (I work for one of them) are all getting ready to pounce on US academics willing to leave Gilead. And they don't even need to jump through too many administrative hoops to come here.

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R71 I am hearing the same thing from friends in academia.

As someone said above, unless you wear a MAGA cap and loudly talk about how great Trump is, no one in Europe will give a shit you’re from the US. Remember Bush and the Iraq war? The US was hated then too! Most people in the US would have no idea of the voter percentage for each candidate/party in a national election of any other country but Europeans are a bit more aware of what goes on outside their country and know half the US didn’t vote for Trump. So please, enjoy your trips and don’t pretend to be Canadian or worry. Life is way too short!

I got an alert today that I could fly RT from San Francisco to London on Virgin for less than $750 — at the height of summer travel in July.

Any place that depends on tourism is going to hurt this summer and fall.

Trump is destroying the US to the point it will become unrecognizable. Universe, please, do your stuff.

All part of the mad genius’s master plan.

The US was held in high esteem for a very long time. Trump has ruined our ideals and reputation. I resent it.

R74 the issue is not just that the half of the people who voted did so for Trump, but the number of voters who couldn’t be bothered voting at all. In my mind they are just as responsible as those who voted and voted for Trump. So it’s rather more than half, unfortunately.

R78, me too

[quote]The US was held in high esteem for a very long time. Trump has ruined our ideals and reputation.

I would say the US has for a long time been held in generally favorable esteem, seen as an ally on many issues, and generally respected for its huge influence in pop culture and consumer products.

Among Americans, there's an "everybody wants to be us" tendency to think that the rest of the world is hugely in awe of the US. It's not that the extreme opposite is true, but that the truth lies somewhere in the large middle. Europeans are in the enormous majority neither completely gung-ho for all things American, all the time. Nor are they violently anti-American about everything.

In short, the fall from grace of the US under Trump has been a fall from a lower, less vaunted, more practical place than many Americans assume.

This graphic showing public opinion on how selected EU nations view the US as of November/December 2024 (also averaged for the EU as a whole.) The article which addresses the idea in other respects was interesting I thought (I will link it separately).

R74

"As someone said above, unless you wear a MAGA cap and loudly talk about how great Trump is, no one in Europe will give a shit you’re from the US."

R20 "Trump's election is everyone's fault."

This is not true.

There are states that voted against him and there are states that voted for him.

Don't get this twisted.

Article from which graphic in R81 was taken.

The thing that angers me about this is, it’s actually true that the U.S. is often treated unfairly in international trade. I sell products worldwide from the USA and have seen it in action.

Not really Canada, but most definitely the EU and UK. Products from there just waltz into the U.S., but if you sell those same products from the U.S. and try to get them into there, have fun!

But now Plump has taken it on as his cause, with his typical incompetence and cringey, childish bluster. Wonderful. And the worst part about it is, he doesn’t give a fuck about trade. He’s doing this to raise revenue so he doesn’t have to pay any taxes.

He’s just handling the whole thing so stupidly, and it’s going to cause the U.S. such a total disaster economically, no one will ever want to touch the issue again.

R78 that whole concept of American Exceptionalism where you think that the rest of the world held up your country as some shining beacon hasn’t existed for at least a couple of decades, if it existed at all. Hate to break it to you.

Well, R86, a lot of persecuted people still looked to America as a destination country. Maybe not so much Trump’s America.