Isabella Rossellini in Conclave

Nepotism explains this waste of a nomination. Yeah Allison Janney winning for a bad SNL skit and Laura Dern winning for a cringeworthy Renata Klein monologue are some of the worst BSA wins.

Tell us how you really feel, OP.

OP and r1 are white trash.

Wow, what flew up YOUR ass and died, OP?

Well, Op... Dame Judi Dench's screen time in the movie that won her an Academy Award was 5 minutes and 52 seconds. This was for her role as Queen Elizabeth I in the 1998 film Shakespeare in Love. Go Isabella!!!

I'm very fond of Ralph Fiennes and I can only hope they nominated him because he was so often overlooked in other work. I though Conclave was a shit mess. I don't think it deserved any nominations. It's one of those movies they should release in February or March when no one gives a shit.

the movie sounds cheesy.

[quote]Well, Op... Dame Judi Dench's screen time in the movie that won her an Academy Award was 5 minutes and 52 seconds.

All that time? That was like an eternity!

[quote] Well, Op... Dame Judi Dench's screen time in the movie that won her an Academy Award was 5 minutes and 52 seconds. This was for her role as Queen Elizabeth I in the 1998 film Shakespeare in Love

What’s your point? Judi’s performance wasn’t any better.

I do like her, and all through the movie I was eagerly anticipating her big “here’s-why-she’s-getting-Oscar-buzz” scene. And then the movie ended.

She did almost NOTHING in this movie Conclave. I am bewildered by this nomination.

Judi Dench won an Oscar for a performance that was 5 mins long.

Well maybe Dench did something in those 5 minutes. Rossellini operated a photocopier and hesitated to turn a door handle.

Dench won because she was passed over the previous year for Helen Hunt.

I thought this was well known.

It’s a career nomination.

I was skeptical that she would even get it. After I saw the film I was also disappointed that she didn’t have much to do.

She is GREAT at grimacing throughout

Well if she wants a career oscar why doesn't she get off her large rear and star in a movie. This looks like she was on set for half a day.

I was describing her role to a friend, stating she doesn't say much...

My friend interrupted and said--Let me guess, at a pivotal moment she suddenly speaks up, revealing a secret that changes the direction of the movie!

Yup

Isabella Rossellini is Hollywood royalty by virtue of her mother being Ingrid Bergman, one of the greatest, most incandescently beautiful stars of classic Hollywood. And when Bergman was demonized by tiny conservative minds and hearts in America, she continued to go her own way, continued to live her life until the U.S. came to its senses and realized they had missed her terribly. Ingrid Bergman didn’t always live her life intelligently, but she lived and worked and fucked and died on her own terms.

When young, Isabella was a breathtakingly beautiful, darker version of her mother, and directors (like Scorsese, Lynch) who would have killed to work with (or just fuck ) her mother, became enchanted by her. There are worse things in the world than a beautiful woman becoming a muse to great artists. But she never restricted herself to that. She has lived her life as independently as her mother did, doing interesting work and becoming, over decades, an excellent actress. And she is allowing herself to age normally, showing that beauty comes from within, revealing a warm, generous and charming personality. She’s grown into a very cool and interesting woman of many parts, there is nothing cookie cutter about her, nothing Hollywoodized, though she has always been very happy to work and live there.

“Conclave” is not her finest hour, it doesn ‘t use her as extensively as it might have, but I for one am glad that academy members in the actor’s branch admire her enough to make this gesture. And her touching and gracious reaction to the nomination makes me doubly glad she was honored this way. I’m sure she understands the symbolism of the nomination, and she likely doesn’t expect to win. So relax.

Isabella was terrific in Conclave.

Fuck her and her mother.

Jamie, your mother couldn't hold a candle to Bergman and you aren't half the beauty or actress that Isabella is.

While her nomination isn't Karla Sofia Gascon level awful, it's still pretty bad.

Just finished Conclave. It was an extremely mediocre film. Vote, scandal, vote, scandal, vote, bomb, vote, WTF. Fiennes' character has a crisis of faith that's never explored. Former pope up to some interesting shenanigans, never explored. Isabella involved in said shenanigans, never explored. An extremely overrated film, and one that could have been interesting.

I like her but agree the nomination was not deserved for this thin role.

She was great in the film but the film was stupid. It could have been filled with so much more intrigue and drama

Wasn't she married or dating Scorcese for a while? Whatever. I don't think she deserved her Oscar nomination. Juliette Binoche, OTOH, has been doing some very edgy very compelling work lately.

glenn close shoulda been nominated instead

Izzy acted with her eyes. then, she had her solo speech. it was SO compelling. (Not)

I read about her and she is a lovely interesting person. Getting nominated was sufficient unto itself..

She was the best fucking thing about the film

Beatrice Straight gave a hell of a five minutes though.

And she was also quite wonderful in “Poltergeist”.

R27, I never heard about Scorsese but she was in a relationship with David Lynch for a few years.

Laurie Metcalf should have won for Lady Bird or Mary J Blige for Mudbound.

Janney's done variations of that role throughout her career.

She was wonderful in this film. There was not one second when she was onscreen that did not belong to her.

I watched “Gaslight” recently and she and her mom sounded exactly alike.

Anybody know where Isabella lives? Some of her photos on Instagram suggest she lives on a farm like area in the Northeast. Well at least one of her homes if she has more than one.

Finally watched Conclave nd totally agree with OP. IR was so so undeserving of this nom

r36 A 28-acre farm called "Mama Farm" in Brookhaven, Long Island, which also operates as a bed and breakfast. Has a pied-à-terre in Lincoln Square as well.

When she shouted "Eminenze!" in that super deep voice of hers, I came a little.

It's on Prime but I haven't felt compelled to watch even though I like Ralph Fiennes.

Well, compel yourself, whore. It's good old entertainment; nothing more, nothing less. Timely, too.

I will watch anything with Ralph Fiennes. Anything. His acting is sublime Add Stanley Tucci and John Lithgow and you got a trifecta of perfection.

Are you the same idiot who's complaining about Patrick Schwarzenegger 'having no shame' for wanting the role of Patrick Bateman in the remake of American Psycho adaptation. Do you even know good acting when you see it?

R19 That post was longer than her role in the movie.

So may people raved to me about this movie. I sat here for an hour waiting for something to happen. Finally, a few things happened, but they weren't as interesting as I thought they would be. The ending wasn't satisfying, and when a movie makes you wait two hours for an unsatisfying (even, dare I say it? Stupid) ending...oh, and nobody who told me they loved it was a Catholic, and I am.

R45 Just want until the anti-climax of the real event happening next week!

I didn't care if Isabella R.'s role was short, but it wasn't even memorable.

Some nun has absolute access to ALL the personal expense, travel, and activity records of the Curia and international church leaders?

Ha!

R48 Your Eminence

Google : Drama vs Documentary

wondered if isabella overstepped her jurisdiction

but then i remembered meryl in 'doubt’

Why be so mean to her? She's a fun, cool old lady, only seven years older than I. I wish there were more like her

Right on, R51.

Conclave was boring AF

The character didn't do anything major for it to have been truly important to have her in the story. It seems like they just needed a female character.

I liked the set design.

R51 There are more like her, she has a twin sister.

Good then r56

What the hell kind of answer is that?

She was nominated after being criminally overlooked for Death Becomes Her.

I wonder how much more $$$ Conclave earned now.

I understand Faye Dunaway coveted the role

r60 I think it's funny that the movie switched streaming platforms, from Peacock to Prime, pretty much the day the pope died.

Dunaway would’ve been magnificent as an old nun!

An old nun drunk on Blue Nun.

This role called for both sternness and warmth, and Dunaway has none of the latter.

What the role also required was a plain look, which she doesn't do at her age.

Faye hasn't got the range.

R62 Yes! I watched it a couple times on Peacock, and then a few days after the Pope's funeral I wanted to watch it again, and boom. Prime kicked in. I liked Isabella's nun. I'm glad the cast her. I can't think of another actress who would have been as convincing.

Let's face it, Charlotte Rampling would have been awesome as well. She nailed her nun role in Benedetta.

I preferred Angels And Demons to Conclave.

It had such a hot supporting cast as well.

Not enough strikingly beautiful young novitiates in staff positions, as is lived reality at the Vatican.

Supporting actress has a lot of leverage. Ultimately, it goes to being a minor but significant presence in the movie, which she was. That said, i love her but although i think her nomination was justied, her winning would be problematic.

I watched it this afternoon. It was ok. I turned it off when the saintly unknown gave his "let's all hold hands and sing It's a Small World" idiotic speech.

So you haven't watched the ending?

One thing I haven't really seen mentioned much is the fact that the eventual pope started off the conclave by voting for himself, then kept voting for himself in each round despite assuring Whatshisface that he was behind him. To me, that narcissistic aspect is a lot more worrying than his lying about his intimate situation.

I recently saw the old doc Ingrid Bergman in Her Own Words (I think that's the title). Never realized that she put her three Italian kids in an apartment to be raised by nannies and wasn't really a day-to-day mom to them. When Isabella was diagnosed with scoliosis, Ingrid gave up her lifestyle and career to take care of Isabella in person for a couple of years. Her four kids all loved her despite her flaws.