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Canada’s Justin Trudeau Expected to Resign as Liberal Party Leader This Week

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is preparing to announce his resignation as Liberal Party Leader as soon as Monday, according to a new report in The Globe and Mail.

Following a steep downfall in public opinion polls and an unhappy caucus calling on him to quit, three sources told the Canadian newspaper that while they don’t know exactly when Trudeau would announce his resignation, it is likely to happen before a key national caucus meeting on Wednesday.

The newspaper added that it would not be identifying the sources as they “were not authorized to discuss internal party matters.”

One of the sources, who claimed to have spoken recently to Trudeau, said that the prime minister acknowledges that he has to make the announcement before he meets the Liberal caucus so that it doesn’t look like he was edged out by his own party members.

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by Anonymousreply 147January 9, 2025 4:40 PM

Damn!

Damn!

Damn!

by Anonymousreply 1January 6, 2025 4:51 AM

Mein Governor General.

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by Anonymousreply 2January 6, 2025 4:53 AM

He was such a weird & goofy failure.

Daddy Castro is looking down from Heaven with eyes of pity for his goofball illegitimate son

by Anonymousreply 3January 6, 2025 4:56 AM

Didn’t we used to love this guy?

by Anonymousreply 4January 6, 2025 4:59 AM

He has a hot ass but he couldn't rule forever.

by Anonymousreply 5January 6, 2025 5:01 AM

R5 - for once this DL saying is correct when it comes to Trudeau's perfect ass.

by Anonymousreply 6January 6, 2025 5:02 AM

Sounds like it's tomorrow. It's everywhere tonight so the uncertainty will look bad if it drags on.

He's been around for ten years. Whatever his aesthetic, he was no Bill Clinton or Barak Obama. He was mostly talk, without the work experience or maturity to effectively manage the nation. A former Clerk of the Privy Council, the non-partisan head of the entire public service, now in the private sector, wrote this op ed recently, titled: Who is looking out for Canada’s interests? (as we struggle to contend with the arrival of the idiot you idiots elected.). He summed it all up like this:

"But one question is conspicuously absent from the conversation (about Trudeau's fate): Who is looking out for Canada’s interests?

It is not the current government, which is in such turmoil that it is barely breathing, let alone governing. IIts lifespan is measured in weeks from when Parliament resumes, given the public statements of the Conservatives, NDP and Bloc Québécois to vote no-confidence. The Liberals’ prospects in the election that will ensue, according to the polls, are somewhere between bleak and Armageddon.

But what about the country itself? The global coverage of our imploding government is hardly reassuring for allies or investors. U.S. president-elect Donald Trump is drawn to weakness like a lion on the Serengeti. In an election with the Liberals led by Mr. Trudeau, it is quite possible that the Bloc could become the Official Opposition and, with the Parti Québécois leading in the polls provincially, Quebec could face another sovereignty referendum. The government has squandered our fiscal advantage, hollowed out our military, shattered our immigration system and shown little interest in our anemic productivity while economic, geopolitical and security threats to Canada rise to Defcon levels." (This was written before his Finance Minister resigned the day she was to introduce the Fall Economic statement in the House. A Canadian equivalent, roughly, of your VP quitting on an idiotic President.)

He was lovely to look at (many of you said) and poetic, but he wasn't up to the job and, like all Prime Ministers, he stayed too long. It's good he goes. There is perhaps hope he was the problem, more than his party, and we can escape the Conservative moron who seems poised to win. Long odds, but better than no hope.

by Anonymousreply 7January 6, 2025 5:03 AM

He’s a dumb bitch. He’ll probably have a podcast or show after this

by Anonymousreply 8January 6, 2025 5:04 AM

now he can go on Celebrity Big Brother. that's always been more his speed.

by Anonymousreply 9January 6, 2025 5:06 AM

R7 is correct. The news Trudeau will quit is being reported worldwide now.

10 years as Canadian PM is a very good run though.

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by Anonymousreply 10January 6, 2025 5:06 AM

So who will likely replace him?

Any Canadians know?

I'm dreading the thought that Trudeau's replacement could be a right-winger like Trump.

That would be awful for all of North America.

by Anonymousreply 11January 6, 2025 5:06 AM

No one knows, R11. My hope is Mark Carney, former Governor of the Bank of Canada then Governor of the Bank of England. Smart guy. Early sixties. He'll make the conservative idiot look like the blowhard greenhouse gourd he is. But no one knows who wins a leadership race. He's the only outsider. The problem is most of the insiders are tainted as part of Justin's cabinet.

by Anonymousreply 12January 6, 2025 5:11 AM

He knows he can't repel the thirsty MAGA hogs that are eying his beautiful homeland.

by Anonymousreply 13January 6, 2025 5:17 AM

He's free to pursue his manlovin with Macron now.

by Anonymousreply 14January 6, 2025 5:18 AM

Please Mr Trudeau, before you leave make it clear to trump what a shitball he is.

by Anonymousreply 15January 6, 2025 5:24 AM

[quote] He knows he can't repel the thirsty MAGA hogs that are eying his beautiful homeland.

I agree.

After meeting with Trump about the threatened tariffs, he could probably sense that it was all over.

He probably didn't want to take on that fight after 10 long years in office.

by Anonymousreply 16January 6, 2025 5:31 AM

He's going to be just fine. He did exactly what they told him to do

He's going to have a very nice life!

by Anonymousreply 17January 6, 2025 5:45 AM

Justin Trudeau has had a pretty good run. He's been Prime Minister since 2015 and brought the Liberals back to power after a decade of Conservative rule under Stephen Harper. He had an undefeated electoral record for a long time but it's been obvious for a while that he can't hold on any longer.

He probably should have stepped down a year ago to give the Liberals more time to replace him. And although he overstayed his welcome, people may be missing him in a couple of years time if Pierre Poilievere becomes the next Prime Minister and takes Canada in a more right-wing direction. There are Trumpian elements in Poilievre which will become more apparent over time.

by Anonymousreply 18January 6, 2025 7:37 AM

[quote] Justin Trudeau has had a pretty good run. He's been Prime Minister since 2015 and brought the Liberals back to power after a decade of Conservative rule under Stephen Harper.

Does that portend a 10 year run for Conservatives again?

[quote] He probably should have stepped down a year ago to give the Liberals more time to replace him

That sounds scarily familiar.

by Anonymousreply 19January 6, 2025 8:56 AM

Pierre would be the first to sell us out to daddy Dump.

by Anonymousreply 20January 6, 2025 9:58 AM

Pierre is rather fit looking .

by Anonymousreply 21January 6, 2025 11:31 AM

Oh no

by Anonymousreply 22January 6, 2025 11:33 AM

Historically, an 8 to 10-year run isn't uncommon for a Canadian Prime Minister.

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by Anonymousreply 23January 6, 2025 12:23 PM

He did a great job and is a victim of the standard anti-incumbent mood globally. Sadly the Canadians too will learn that replacing him with a conservative will lead to disaster

by Anonymousreply 24January 6, 2025 12:37 PM

But Pierre is no Trudeau, R21.

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by Anonymousreply 25January 6, 2025 12:47 PM

As crisis of confidence 😢

by Anonymousreply 26January 6, 2025 12:48 PM

R24, I'm genuinely curious as to why you think he did a great job because I think he did a terrible job and here's why - the debt was massively increased, the military - never exactly strike force - needs roadside assistance and more duct tape, immigration got so wildly, thoughtlessly out of control they've clawed it back, now colleges and universities are scrambling to pay bills because they got addicted to foreign students who aren't being admitted and as of this morning thousands and thousands of caregivers status is up in the air because of government inaction, we're heavily dependent on the U.S. for economic performance which makes us heavily vulnerable to Trump and his gang of mindless, racist carpetbaggers, and our productivity, for lack of a better word, sucks.

He technically won three elections in a row but two were minorities in which his party won the most seats of any party but not enough to outvote the other parties- so they were propped up by agreements with the third party (the most recent of which has now collapsed.) In Parliamentary politics, majorities are everything and it can still be done because one of Trudeau's actual accomplishments is to so infuriate the country that it looks like those crazy bastard Conservatives will win a majority. Not my definition of a great job and I'm curious about yours.

In any event, he's called a news conference for today. It's over over.

by Anonymousreply 27January 6, 2025 2:27 PM

CNN is saying he’s resigning.

by Anonymousreply 28January 6, 2025 2:28 PM

News conference 10:45 a.m.

by Anonymousreply 29January 6, 2025 2:29 PM

[quote]"The government has squandered our fiscal advantage, hollowed out our military, shattered our immigration system and shown little interest in our anemic productivity while economic, geopolitical and security threats to Canada rise to Defcon levels."

Why try to govern a country when you can become a white savior?

by Anonymousreply 30January 6, 2025 2:44 PM

He was an influencer and mug cradler in a grown up's job.

by Anonymousreply 31January 6, 2025 2:47 PM

Poilievre is a bargain basement Ron DeSantis and that says something.

by Anonymousreply 32January 6, 2025 2:50 PM

Yes, PP is gross. It says more about Trudeau than PP that PP is high in the polls. I am hoping that once Trudeau is out of the way, things will chill and a real election can be fought and the Liberals can get it back. I believe they can. This is a Liberal country at heart.

by Anonymousreply 33January 6, 2025 2:54 PM

The best outcome is that no party wins an outright majority in the next election. If, God forbid, CPP establishes the majority, the honeymoon will be over even more quickly. Like what happened here, in Ontario, a couple of years ago.

by Anonymousreply 34January 6, 2025 2:58 PM

Can you all do something about that asshole Jordan Peterson? Are you all too polite to tell him to fuck off?

by Anonymousreply 35January 6, 2025 3:05 PM

Datalounge klangrannies will be wearing black armbands.

by Anonymousreply 36January 6, 2025 3:27 PM

[Quote] He was such a weird & goofy failure.

You mean like the way Canadian GDP has increased 40% during his tenure? FAILURE!

by Anonymousreply 37January 6, 2025 3:31 PM

[quote]He’s a dumb bitch. He’ll probably have a podcast or show after this

What about an OnlyFans? I'd be keen

by Anonymousreply 38January 6, 2025 3:41 PM

[quote] one of Trudeau's actual accomplishments is to so infuriate the country that it looks like those crazy bastard Conservatives will win a majority

I weep for the United States and Canada.

There goes any hope of crossing the border to escape a Trump Presidency.

by Anonymousreply 39January 6, 2025 4:08 PM

He's out. As it were.

by Anonymousreply 40January 6, 2025 4:09 PM

R39, it was a faint hope at best. Canada's immigration rules are tight and, given how much DL mocks Canada incessantly, how happy would you have been anyway?

by Anonymousreply 41January 6, 2025 4:09 PM

Honestly, it’s time for new blood. 9 years is a long time.

by Anonymousreply 42January 6, 2025 4:14 PM

Will Canada's new Prime Minister be more open to selling Canada to Trump?

That IS the plan, right?

by Anonymousreply 43January 6, 2025 4:22 PM

When will the Canadians fix their dumb party system? Liberals + New Democrats + Greens + probably the Bloc Québécois would beat the Conservatives every single time.

by Anonymousreply 44January 6, 2025 4:26 PM

When will your fix your dumb electoral college, because that's just as easy, right?

by Anonymousreply 45January 6, 2025 4:27 PM

I would assume that it's easier to build a coalition in the Canadian Parliamentary system, than it is to amend the Constitution of the United States and get a majority of Congress to approve that amendment, and the President to sign it.

Amending the Constitution is harder than building a coalition government.

by Anonymousreply 46January 6, 2025 4:32 PM

Well, your assumption is wrong. Coalitions are notoriously unstable, around the world. Look today at Austria. And France. And Ireland. Trudeau's most recent coalition collapsed in November.

by Anonymousreply 47January 6, 2025 4:36 PM

R27, I feel like Canada has never fully recovered from the global financial crisis. It's economy seems to be doing as poorly as some of the western European countries (which have never recovered from the austerity unleashed after the crisis).

by Anonymousreply 48January 6, 2025 4:37 PM

Well Chrystia, what's your next massively selfish move?

by Anonymousreply 49January 6, 2025 4:40 PM

Anybody but Pierre Polievre!

by Anonymousreply 50January 6, 2025 4:41 PM

R48, which is one of the criticisms of government after government in this country. We have no viable strategy for the future. We are a resource economy, which is a basis, but you can't just keep selling commodities. Our productivity sucks. We don't innovate. We need a strategy and we don't have it. That eluded Trudeau. He was always in over his head.

by Anonymousreply 51January 6, 2025 4:42 PM

How is Justin’s ass faring?

by Anonymousreply 52January 6, 2025 4:48 PM

R51, that's why I have mixed feelings about Canada. It's pretty common to hear criticisms of Canada shot down with "at least we aren't the states!". As dysfunctional and reactionary the American government and people are, we do innovate a lot and are very productive. What's the point of all that "safe" governance in Canada if they have no significant economy outside of commodities?

by Anonymousreply 53January 6, 2025 4:48 PM

In case the media hasn't noticed, there is a Extreme Right putsch going on, violent where necessary, and not so violent in other cases. In Germany, an Extreme Right candidate is attempting to become their PM. Hungary and Italy are already gone, France is experiencing the ascendance of the Extreme Right, and now Canada. It's not an overnight thing, it's a gradual thing. And in case you missed it, Trump hosted the Italian PM at Mar A Lago to meet Elon where Elon successfully negotiated putting Space X in Italy. Pay Attention.

by Anonymousreply 54January 6, 2025 4:49 PM

But doesn't Canada have lots of natural resources, like Gold, Oil, and Minerals?

Why can't Canada turn that into profits, the way that Middle Eastern countries are all rich from oil?

Surely, Canada has more natural wealth than those tiny ME countries.

Canada is the 4th largest country in the world, for fuck's sake!

by Anonymousreply 55January 6, 2025 4:51 PM

[quote]Canada is the 4th largest country in the world, for fuck's sake!

Second largest, actually.

by Anonymousreply 56January 6, 2025 4:53 PM

Under growing pressure from his own party, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has announced he will step down and end his nine-year stretch as leader.

Bye, bye nepo baby

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by Anonymousreply 57January 6, 2025 4:56 PM

R56 Canada ranks second in area only if you are counting water area + land area.

If you are going strictly by land area, then Canada ranks fourth in size, behind Russia, China, and the US.

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by Anonymousreply 58January 6, 2025 4:57 PM

[Quote] As dysfunctional and reactionary the American government and people are, we do innovate a lot and are very productive. What's the point of all that "safe" governance in Canada if they have no significant economy outside of commodities?

So wait, you’re saying that crazy American shit like the insane gun culture, and electing a rapist who tried to overthrow the government, is the reason for American innovation? Sorry but Cletus in the red hat is not inventing new technology or business opportunities.

by Anonymousreply 59January 6, 2025 4:58 PM

So when is Justin's actual last day on the job?

by Anonymousreply 60January 6, 2025 5:06 PM

R60, the day the new party leader is elected. That's sometime in March, but not yet announced.

by Anonymousreply 61January 6, 2025 5:09 PM

[quote] In case the media hasn't noticed, there is a Extreme Right putsch going on, violent where necessary, and not so violent in other cases. In Germany, an Extreme Right candidate is attempting to become their PM. Hungary and Italy are already gone, France is experiencing the ascendance of the Extreme Right, and now Canada.

Don't forget the US and New Zealand too.

The only remaining holdouts in the Western World are Canada, the UK, and Spain.

by Anonymousreply 62January 6, 2025 5:19 PM

Apparently PP's daughter is a retard. Yes, I'm using the word retard to give it back to the Conservatives who love using that word. Just wait and see how Conservatives will suddenly feign outrage the first time someone on social media refers to the next PM's child as retarded.

by Anonymousreply 63January 6, 2025 5:28 PM

[quote] So wait, you’re saying that crazy American shit like the insane gun culture, and electing a rapist who tried to overthrow the government, is the reason for American innovation? Sorry but Cletus in the red hat is not inventing new technology or business opportunities.

No, not at all. I was saying, yes, our government is completely insane (along with a sizeable chunk of the people) by comparison to Canada. But, also compared to Canada, our economy is extremely innovative and we are also very productive.

by Anonymousreply 64January 6, 2025 5:30 PM

You’re drawing irrelevant parallels r64.

Because the part of our culture that’s most productive and innovative is not associated with the weird stupid shit. Basically all of American power in finance and industry comes from blue states. (Texas is a red powerhouse but due only to its natural resources, so it’s like the Saudi Arabia of America.)

by Anonymousreply 65January 6, 2025 5:33 PM

Oh and by the way r64, if by productive we mean manufacture rather than innovation, the U.S. is basically in the same boat as Canada. We are not a manufacturing powerhouse anymore.

by Anonymousreply 66January 6, 2025 5:36 PM

Most of the innovation R64 is referring to is due to the fact that top-level American universities which provide R&D for the tech sector, public medicine, etc, are heavily staffed by those H-1B scientists who red state Americans want to see kicked out. Basically, other countries' brain drain and historical circumstances (end of WW2, the fall of the Berlin Wall, among others) benefitted the United States immensely but MAGA populists, in their infinite wisdom, want to get rid of it.

by Anonymousreply 67January 6, 2025 5:42 PM

[quote] Canadian prime minister says he has ‘regrets’ as he announces resignation

The outgoing prime minister said he regretted not being able to change Canada’s electoral system.

A row broke out inside Trudeau’s party after U.S. President-elect Donald Trump announced a proposal to introduce 25 percent tariffs on the country.

Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland unexpectedly stepped down in mid-December, citing differences with Trudeau on how to approach Trump’s presidency and tariff proposals.

But pressure had already been growing on Trudeau from within the party as its popularity collapsed in the polls.

Canada is already due to hold a general election by the end of October this year.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is under immense pressure to resign with more members of his own party reportedly joining the effort to force Trudeau out after his deputy prime minister resigned and concerns about Donald Trump’s tariffs increase.

Signs are mounting that members of the Liberal Party, which Trudeau has led since 2013, are losing confidence in the prime minister.

In mid-December, Chrystina Freeland, the deputy prime minister and head of finance, unexpectedly resigned citing disagreements over the handling of Trump’s proposed 25 percent tariffs on the country – an issue that could damage the economy.

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by Anonymousreply 68January 6, 2025 5:44 PM

The problem with being exclusively a resource economy in a developed nation is that it is very difficult to insulate yourself from the swings of the broader economy. In 2023, 60% of U.S. crude oil imports originated in Canada. Things are great when things are great, but when things crash, layoffs are massive, production is shuttered and your resource sector recovery tails the broader recovery as demand fires up. Then there's the whole question of where petro resources fit in decarbonized economies. It's a long way off, but it's inevitable.

by Anonymousreply 69January 6, 2025 5:45 PM

Why can't Chrystia Freeland take his place?

She seems very smart and principled.

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by Anonymousreply 70January 6, 2025 5:50 PM

Exactly r67 — if anything, American rightwingism is a drain on innovation and productivity.

by Anonymousreply 71January 6, 2025 6:01 PM

Saw the press conference and he's aged in the last few weeks. Liquid holday maybe?

by Anonymousreply 72January 6, 2025 6:05 PM

He also went through a divorce, R72.

2024 was a tough year for Justin.

by Anonymousreply 73January 6, 2025 6:37 PM

Forgot about the split.

by Anonymousreply 74January 6, 2025 6:44 PM

It was a "conscious uncoupling".

by Anonymousreply 75January 6, 2025 6:46 PM

Bon débarras!

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by Anonymousreply 76January 6, 2025 7:07 PM

J'adore Justin but he was no match for Trump. Unless Canada elects a right wing autocrat Trump will make Canada the 51st state. Otherwise it will still be the 51st state unofficially, to save face.

And speaking of face!

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by Anonymousreply 77January 6, 2025 7:15 PM

Can I put Canada on my credit card, or should I just use PayPal?

If you throw in Greenland, I'll get a better deal.

by Anonymousreply 78January 6, 2025 7:17 PM

[quote] If you throw in Greenland, I'll get a better deal.

Buy Canada, you get Greenland for 50% off.

BOGO!

by Anonymousreply 79January 6, 2025 7:19 PM

R3 I never knew he was Fidel Castro’s son.

by Anonymousreply 80January 6, 2025 7:24 PM

[quote] I'm genuinely curious as to why you think he did a great job because I think he did a terrible job and here's why - the debt was massively increased, the military - never exactly strike force - needs roadside assistance and more duct tape, immigration got so wildly, thoughtlessly out of control they've clawed it back,

Either debt goes up or taxes go up. Both are considered "Terrible" so which would you choose, particularly to recover from the COVID recession?

With the US and NATO protecting you, you can spend less on military and more on social services.

Canada, like the rest of the western world, has nearly a zero birthrate. For the economy to grow, you must have working people. Immigrants filled that role.

Trudeau did a great job balancing the needs of the population while allowing the economy to grow.

by Anonymousreply 81January 6, 2025 7:25 PM

Poor Canada.

Sad, last days.

by Anonymousreply 82January 6, 2025 7:26 PM

[quote]Either debt goes up or taxes go up. Both are considered "Terrible" so which would you choose, particularly to recover from the COVID recession?

Debt and taxes went up under his government.

[quote]With the US and NATO protecting you, you can spend less on military and more on social services.

We have obligations to NATO we are not even close to meeting.

[quote]Canada, like the rest of the western world, has nearly a zero birthrate. For the economy to grow, you must have working people. Immigrants filled that role.

"When the post-pandemic boom cooled and businesses no longer needed the additional labour help, as a federal team, we could have acted quicker," Trudeau said in a video last November.

[quote]Trudeau did a great job balancing the needs of the population while allowing the economy to grow.

Not according to him.

by Anonymousreply 83January 6, 2025 7:58 PM

[quote] Debt and taxes went up under his government.

Because that's how deep an economic hole so many countries are in. Conservatives will borrow up a storm and cut important services just to keep taxes down. That just delays taxes. Trudeau's government did the right thing--try to keep the deficit as low as possible by paying as much towards programs as possible

[quote] We have obligations to NATO we are not even close to meeting.

Canada is one of the countries that has not its financial obligation of 2% of GDP. But Trudeau made the wise calculation, that NATO won't kick Canada out--so he used the money for necessary programs instead of paying towards NATO. The other choice would be to raise taxes even more.

[quote] "When the post-pandemic boom cooled and businesses no longer needed the additional labour help, as a federal team, we could have acted quicker," Trudeau said in a video last November.

Politicians say crap like that to appease voters. Canada and the rest of the Western world is utterly desperate for more people to keep their economies humming. Everyone may hate and demonize immigrants (legal or not) but we cannot live without them. Reducing the number of immigrants will directly reduce GDP.

by Anonymousreply 84January 6, 2025 8:23 PM

[quote]Debt and taxes went up under his government.

Specifically, which taxes? And for whom?

by Anonymousreply 85January 6, 2025 8:55 PM

Trudeau turned Canada third world. The woke shit killed it.

by Anonymousreply 86January 6, 2025 9:06 PM

Shut up, R86.

by Anonymousreply 87January 7, 2025 12:21 AM

Wish he’d move to our country like Megz & Harry did but, unlike them, be constantly visible attractively.

by Anonymousreply 88January 7, 2025 1:21 AM

We were all hoping he’d be more like his dad. I guess he was like his no pant wearing mother.

by Anonymousreply 89January 7, 2025 1:44 AM

Justin come hither, let me cradle you in my arms as you weep on my shoulder.

by Anonymousreply 90January 7, 2025 2:06 AM

A lot of people on X today were saying the truckers are the winners with Trudeau's resignation, but I don't see how.

by Anonymousreply 91January 7, 2025 2:19 AM

The Perfect End

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by Anonymousreply 92January 7, 2025 2:29 AM

I would love that, R88.

Justin is single, and ready to mingle!!

Are we sure he's 100% straight?

by Anonymousreply 93January 7, 2025 3:01 AM

[quote]Are we sure he's 100% straight?

On DL??? You must be new here.

by Anonymousreply 94January 7, 2025 6:29 AM

[quote]Trudeau turned Canada third world. The woke shit killed it

Many Americans are seeing all this and turning Republican as we speak....

by Anonymousreply 95January 7, 2025 6:42 AM

What?

by Anonymousreply 96January 7, 2025 7:26 AM

Justin is not going away. He will work hard to rebuild and make course corrections along with other Liberals. Pigs like Trump and others will not win.

by Anonymousreply 97January 7, 2025 4:16 PM

This was brutal, on how Trudeau let the country fail on the world stage.... In the Toronto Star... not exactly the Wall Street Journal in its outlook:

"For Jocelyn Coulon, who was part of an expert team that briefed Trudeau on the world, helped write policy and advised former foreign minister Stéphane Dion, it was empty rhetoric.

“I don’t think he will have left a mark,” Coulon said. “If he has, it will be the mark of a popular, flamboyant, seductive personality, but that doesn’t make for policy.”

In A Selfie with Justin Trudeau, a critical 2018 French-language account of his experience working for the Liberal government, Coulon described a leader who came to power with little diplomacy experience or know-how, who was influenced more by polls and media reports than by the counsel of professional diplomats, and who quickly abandoned his pledge to turn the page on his Conservative predecessor, Stephen Harper.“

"Dion was the first of five Canadian foreign ministers to serve under Trudeau, the latest being Mélanie Joly, who took the post in October 2021, in the heady months leading up to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Her predecessor, the recently retired former astronaut Marc Garneau, recounted in his recent autobiography that Canada’s allies were left dizzy by the revolving door at the foreign minister’s office in Ottawa.

“On virtually every one of my introductory calls to my counterparts, I heard the following polite comment: “I hope you will be in the post longer than your predecessors.”

Garneau held the post for just nine months."

“We have very poor relations with many of the leading powers in the world, and that includes India, China, Russia — also the United States,” said Paikin. “This is not something to be proud of. This is not something to see as a badge of honour.”

Canada was one of the only countries not to meet with and attempt to dissuade Putin from invading Ukraine, and it will have a limited hand in shaping an eventual peace agreement to ensure the most favourable possible deal for Kyiv.

On India, the U.S. brought actual criminal charges against an Indian government official in the alleged plot to assassinate a Sikh separatist in America — nearly identical to the allegations levelled by Trudeau in the House of Commons — but forced New Delhi to formally investigate and act on the claims.

On China too, other countries that have objected to Beijing’s foreign interference, unfair trade practices, threats toward Taiwan, support for Russia or Arctic ambitions have managed to do so while also maintaining high-level dialogue with the leaders of the world’s second largest economy, Paikin noted.

“We don’t have that, and that’s problematic … for our ability to pursue our interests reliably,” he said.

"Under Trudeau, Canada was not included in the AUKUS defence pact between the United States, United Kingdom and Australia that is intended to bolster the three countries’ presence in the Indo-Pacific region and counter China. This, despite Canada having spent years developing its own long-term plan to boost trade, security and partnerships in the region.

The Trudeau government was also passed over in 2020 for a coveted spot on the United Nations Security Council, which would have given Canada a literal seat at the table where the world’s wars, crises, catastrophes are hashed out — even if the veto powers afforded to the five permanent members often result in decisional deadlock."

He was in over his head. Always was. Good for the instagram intellects. In Canada, generally, the media analysis in all the papers is very negative on his performance and accomplishments.

by Anonymousreply 98January 7, 2025 9:41 PM

[quote] The Trudeau government was also passed over in 2020 for a coveted spot on the United Nations Security Council, which would have given Canada a literal seat at the table where the world’s wars, crises, catastrophes are hashed out

If the Canadian government has anything worth saying, they can request the American government to consider saying it. It would be silly to hand Canada a coveted spot.

by Anonymousreply 99January 7, 2025 10:22 PM

[quote] the media analysis in all the papers is very negative on his performance and accomplishments.

But, that's what we Canadians love to do: complain without providing any solutions. Then the Tories will get in and you'll be reading more of the same. Has there been a single Canadian government in 20+ years that got good reviews?

by Anonymousreply 100January 7, 2025 10:25 PM

When are people going to realize the Media is part of the problem. Look what they have done in the USA!

by Anonymousreply 101January 7, 2025 10:29 PM

The Anschluss will make things better.

by Anonymousreply 102January 7, 2025 10:34 PM

[quote]If the Canadian government has anything worth saying, they can request the American government to consider saying it. It would be silly to hand Canada a coveted spot.

Excellent point, R99. I don't suppose Canada would have anything worth saying, compared to current members like Algeria, Denmark, Greece, Guyana, Pakistan, Panama, Sierra Leone, Slovenia or Somalia. Thank you for your well informed contribution.

by Anonymousreply 103January 7, 2025 10:41 PM

R103, it’s important to have a geographic and ethnic diversity on the Security Council to provide input and make decisions, which the countries you listed would provide. Canada would add nothing and since the U.S. is on the council, would be redundant.

by Anonymousreply 104January 7, 2025 10:50 PM

So why did it hold one of the rotating seats in 1948–49, 1958–59, 1967–68, 1977–78, 1989–90, and 1999–2000? Stop making shit up (unless you're just that ignorant) to back a dumb, America first theory.

by Anonymousreply 105January 7, 2025 10:54 PM

Just to add, I guess it was a total waste of time and space to have Mexico on the Security Council in 1946, 1980–1981, 2002–2003, 2009–2010, 2021–2022.

And golly, Europe's just Europe and France and the UK are permanent members, what the would we have anybody else from Europe on there for? They're all the same, right? I mean, Europe's kind of a continent, so they all think alike, right? Individual nation's wouldn't have different perspectives or priorities or geopolitical relationships, right?

That UN. Dumb.

by Anonymousreply 106January 7, 2025 10:57 PM

R105, when it was considered okay to have two out of fifteen seats representing English-speaking North America? The world has moved on.

by Anonymousreply 107January 7, 2025 10:59 PM

When was it considered OK to have Europe representing two of five permanent seats, R107? Has that part of the world not moved on?

America and Canada, you might have noticed, are two very different countries in thought and outlook.

by Anonymousreply 108January 7, 2025 11:01 PM

What does individual nation possess?

by Anonymousreply 109January 7, 2025 11:01 PM

[quote] When are people going to realize the Media

Or Medea.

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by Anonymousreply 110January 7, 2025 11:02 PM

He had a bangin' ass; all is forgiven!

by Anonymousreply 111January 7, 2025 11:30 PM

I am Canadian and I am very scared by Trump’s talk of invading or buying off Canada. It scares me that he is already talking about it and he hasn’t even taken office yet. He will hammer away at it nonstop for four years, and we do have secessionists in Quebec and Alberta. Goddamn that motherfucker Trump. God I loathe him.

by Anonymousreply 112January 8, 2025 12:51 AM

The King of Canada should impose his direct rule!

by Anonymousreply 113January 8, 2025 1:14 AM

Madea is part of the solution

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by Anonymousreply 114January 8, 2025 1:21 AM

He won’t be able to do shit. Quebec has already had two referendums they’re not leaving

by Anonymousreply 115January 8, 2025 1:22 AM

We've burned down the White House once already...

by Anonymousreply 116January 8, 2025 2:20 AM

[quote] We've burned down the White House once already...

This time, make sure Trump is in it before you burn it down.

by Anonymousreply 117January 8, 2025 2:47 AM

Asshole Trump thinks he is just as bad assed as his Big Important Buddy, Vladimir Putin. Just like Putin decides to invade Ukraine, or annex Crimea, Trump's bellicosity has now focused on world conquest. Canada, Greenland Panama Canal, and all of it to help Putin create chaos, instability, and rapacious inclinations.

by Anonymousreply 118January 8, 2025 3:04 AM

I also love the Media's credulousness when they play softball with Donnie at his "News" conferences. He is sick and tired of Jimmy Carter and all this talk of decency, and he is sick and tired of Biden still being POTUS. So he holds a news conference touting his intentions to go after Canada, Greenland and the Panama Canal.

by Anonymousreply 119January 8, 2025 3:06 AM

[quote] I am Canadian and I am very scared by Trump’s talk of invading or buying off Canada

You should be.

This is how the United States obtained Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, and all of its overseas territories?

By FORCE.

Puerto Rico belonged to Spain, before the US took it over during the Spanish-American "war," which was precipitated by the fake bombing of the USS Maine.

Hawaii was an independent Kingdom when the United States "annexed" it. Just overthrew the legitimate government, and declared it part of the US.

The US has a very long history of doing things like this.

It may seem like a joke in 2025, but it's not really.

Perhaps this is Trump's foray into modern American imperialism.

It's not like anyone can stop the most powerful country in the world from doing it.

And in the past, Russia would have been the "counter balance."

Now there is NO counter-balance, because Trump and Putin are working together.

by Anonymousreply 120January 8, 2025 3:55 PM

R120 this is Trump trying to be Putin.

by Anonymousreply 121January 8, 2025 4:06 PM

You wonder if at some point after a year or so it will be so bad that Americans will essentially be unable to travel, because hardly anybody will mask their feelings about the country and the people. Yankee go home graffiti, a bit of The Help pie in restaurants, and all that. That you may not have voted for him will be a distinction I think could be lost in the moment.

by Anonymousreply 122January 8, 2025 4:11 PM

[quote] You wonder if at some point after a year or so it will be so bad that Americans will essentially be unable to travel, because hardly anybody will mask their feelings about the country and the people.

We need to send planes to drop chocolates on the children of the conquered territories to win hearts and minds.

by Anonymousreply 123January 8, 2025 4:15 PM

R122, this is why we’ve taken as many European vacations we can the last for years!

by Anonymousreply 124January 8, 2025 4:37 PM

I would support this. We should align ourselves with countries that share our values and reduce our dependency on that meth lab south of the border as much as possible.

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by Anonymousreply 125January 8, 2025 4:42 PM

Oh, please...No one is fighting a war for Canada, Greenland, or Panama. These are all stupid threats that everyone is already calling out.

by Anonymousreply 126January 8, 2025 4:45 PM

You keep trying to convince yourself of this R126, but you just wait until January 20.

That's when the fun really starts.

by Anonymousreply 127January 8, 2025 4:47 PM

[quote] Canada ranks second in area only if you are counting water area + land area. If you are going strictly by land area, then Canada ranks fourth in size, behind Russia, China, and the US.

We ALWAYS count the lakes and rivers, etc. Why would this be any different? You can put up any qualifier to make a position.

by Anonymousreply 128January 8, 2025 4:47 PM

[quote] Trudeau turned Canada third world. The woke shit killed it.

The last cry of white supremacy...

by Anonymousreply 129January 8, 2025 4:48 PM

[quote] The woke shit killed it.

Which truck did you drive, dear KKKonvoyer?

by Anonymousreply 130January 8, 2025 4:50 PM

The U.S. has elected a Black president and an Asian vice-president. Why is Canada so far behind us on that?

by Anonymousreply 131January 8, 2025 4:52 PM

[quote]Which truck did you drive, dear KKKonvoyer?

They continuously give themselves away every time when they use their favorite buzzwords, including 'woke.' I already have that one blocked.

by Anonymousreply 132January 8, 2025 5:14 PM

Though it is all absurd, Canada should have fun with this deluded asshole.

Since the constitutions of both countries wouldn't matter any more, Canada should set terms for "annexation." The first being that the U.S. adopt a parliamentary form of government with a ceremonial president replacing King Charles II as head of state. Trump could remain "president," but the Prime Minister would be the one with powers to govern. English and French would be be recognized as languages of equal importance. The new constitution of the United States-Canadian Federation would enshrine that it is a multicultural, diverse country that was built-on previous waves of immigrants and immigrants are welcome.

I'd really hate to be in the U.S. military now with a narcissist president coming to power. Trump could replace as many higher ups in the military with loyalist ass kissers, but would the troops ordered to invade Canada for no reason just go along with it or mutiny? If enough refused, would he try to assemble a militia to do his bidding? I'd bet the Canadian Armed Forces would easily beat back a MAGA mob.

If someone told you 10 or 15 years ago that this crazy bullshit would even be talked about in 2025 news stories, you'd tell them to seek professional help.

by Anonymousreply 133January 8, 2025 7:36 PM

[quote] King Charles II

Unto the Restoration and behead?

by Anonymousreply 134January 8, 2025 8:11 PM

Please replace King Charles II with King Charles III. I made a mistake.

by Anonymousreply 135January 8, 2025 8:47 PM

[quote] Please replace King Charles II with King Charles III. I made a mistake.

I think it’s fair to say that the whole reply is a mistake.

by Anonymousreply 136January 8, 2025 9:19 PM

I wish Justin could become an American citizen (dual) and then run for POTUS but the Constitution forbids it. Alas.

by Anonymousreply 137January 8, 2025 9:27 PM

Fox News' Jesse Watters tells Ontario premier that if he were Canadian, it would be a ‘privilege to be taken over’ by the US.

[quote] “You say that Americans don’t have a problem with Canadians, and we don’t, but it seems like you have a problem with us. Because if I were a citizen of another country and I was a neighbor of the United States, I would consider it a privilege to be taken over by the United States of America,” Watters told Ontario Premier Doug Ford during an appearance on “Jesse Watters Primetime.”

[quote] Watters said “that’s what everybody else in the world wants, American citizenship.”

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by Anonymousreply 138January 9, 2025 1:28 AM

OK, now we know why he resigned!

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by Anonymousreply 139January 9, 2025 7:29 AM

I feel so sorry for Canada.

What a pity they're going to be annexed by the United States.

But at least the borders will be wide open now.

by Anonymousreply 140January 9, 2025 11:07 AM

Annexation won't happen:

"Experts say that Mr. Trump’s talk of annexation can be chalked up to bluster as he seeks concessions in the buildup to next year’s review of the U.S., Canada and Mexico trilateral trade agreement.

And while Mr. Trump’s musings have attracted the attention of policy makers and media across North America, his recent threats of using economic force to annex Canada would first run into a wall of politics within his own party.

Bringing Canada and its population of 41 million into the U.S. would mean redistributing 54 seats in the House of Representatives to predominantly left-leaning voters, according to Aaron Ettinger, an expert on international relations and U.S. foreign policy at Carleton University. The newly created state’s two seats in the Senate would also likely go to the Democrats’ new Canadian members.

And folding Canada into the country would introduce policy problems that many Americans might not have considered, Prof. Ettinger said. “Multiculturalism, bilingualism, Indigenous reconciliation, different visions of federalism. It would shift the ‘American’ political culture to the left by locking in the electoral power of Democratic supporters.”

These changes would all but assure a Democratic White House far beyond Mr. Trump’s second term – all but assuring Canada will remain sovereign.

“His approach has always been to use America’s economic size as leverage over smaller partners to get concessions,” Prof. Ettinger said. “A trade war might turn Canada into an economic vassal, but vassalage is different from losing our sovereignty.”

Prof. Ettinger put it even more bluntly: “In the end, all of this is just trash talk.”

“Remember when Trump also said that North Korea would ‘be met with fire and fury’ like the world has never seen? Well, all that amounted to a handshake photo op in the DMZ and a clutch of love letters. It’s only notable now because we’re in the crosshairs.”

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by Anonymousreply 141January 9, 2025 2:11 PM

An interesting take on Trudeau's fall, over time, by his biographer:

"After all, he had revived a vision of progressive Canada when it looked as though Stephen Harper might have forged a permanent new conservative consensus. Once in office, he legalized marijuana, lifted tens of thousands of children out of poverty and made sustained efforts toward Indigenous reconciliation and the struggle to reduce emissions. He demonstrated a consistent commitment to his vision of the country. It seemed inaccurate to portray him as nothing but an egotistical nepo baby.

In recent months, though, as he clung to power after the point when it seemed clear he should let go, I became irritated again, and started to think that his love of the spotlight is his fatal flaw, part and parcel of the will to power that drove him to lead Canada.

That unusual compulsion seems to have been bred in the bone.

Trudeau had a strange and difficult childhood. He was born on Christmas Day, 1971, son of Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau and Margaret Sinclair, who was 29 years younger than her husband, and who was suffering from bipolar disorder, which was not diagnosed until many years later. On March 3, 1977, on the night of her sixth wedding anniversary, when Justin was five, she caused a sensation when, instead of celebrating with her husband, she showed up at the El Mocambo in Toronto with Ron Wood and Mick Jagger, where the Rolling Stones were about to take the stage for two legendary nights. She followed them to New York, and then left her family for a jet set life, making headlines around the world with her romances — the most lurid news out of Canada until Rob Ford came along.

So Justin grew up with a largely absent mother, which traumatized him, and left him with a burning desire for attention, as he described in his memoir. As Jonathan Kay, who ghost-wrote that memoir, “Common Ground,” wrote later in the Walrus: “What good is the glitz of being a prime minister’s son when you’re living a childhood parched of mother’s milk?”

But he didn’t truly apply himself to anything worthy of his gifts until 2012, when he sought the Liberal leadership, a sure way of being at the centre of the action. From that point on, though, he did the work. To win his party’s leadership, to go from third place to a majority government, besting Stephen Harper and Tom Mulcair, he had to do a lot of difficult things well, showing an admirable work ethic, policy skills and, crucially, an ability to connect with voters.

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by Anonymousreply 142January 9, 2025 2:17 PM

For his first year in office, he was a hot commodity, a new thing that people wanted to know about. He was thronged in Asia, appeared in Vogue and Rolling Stone magazines, was a global progressive icon, which was good for him, his party and, in a way, the country.

That period ended, suddenly and permanently, when he took a disastrous trip to India, which was set up like a royal tour, not a business trip, and he so overdid the costume changes that the Indians started laughing at him.

Comedian John Oliver said then that Trudeau had “singed his fingertips on people going, ‘You’re not quite that charismatic to pull off a trip like that’.” Ever since, as a global media commodity, Trudeau has been damaged goods, but he has not stopped seeking the spotlight, tweeting at real celebrities — Trevor Noah and Taylor Swift — for example.

His media presence, which was once a source of pride even to Canadians who did not vote for him, became increasingly cringe, especially after the pandemic, the lockdowns, the convoy and a cost of living crisis. Inevitably, all of that strife made him a symbol of hard times and division for the growing There are things leaders can do when they become unpopular — pivots they can make — but Trudeau didn’t have the cunning to change gears, to tell a new story. He just kept showing up in novelty socks, being a dashing progressive, hoping people would be pleased to see him — as almost everyone once had been. But the old magic has stopped working, and he looked like he was virtue signalling when he lectured Giorgia Meloni about gay rights. When he popped down to Mar-a-Lago, Trump bullied him.

And at home, no matter what he did, the polls would not move, because voters had just had enough of him, and the Conservatives had selected an anti-Trudeau figure who succeeded in rallying the people who had come to see Trudeau as a pious scold, an anti-racist who had often worn blackface, a climate change warrior who was forever flying around in a private plane, a feminist who gaslit, demoted and exiled Jody Wilson-Raybould when she rightly objected to the PMO interfering in the administration of justice.

Trudeau and his people were trying to sideline the prosecution of corrupt engineering firm SNC-Lavalin, and then shuffled Wilson-Raybould when she refused to go along with the plan.

It was much the same with Chrystia Freeland, whom he tried to demote from Finance when it ought to have been obvious that her continued presence at his right hand was vital to public confidence in his government.

In both cases, he seems to have thought that the force of his personality would carry the day. But it was in the best interests of both women to ditch him and when they did, Trudeau didn’t have much to say in his own defence.

Trudeau, in the last days of his prime ministership, looks like a guy whose charm finally wore off.

It is too soon for the verdict of history — consider how Brian Mulroney was despised when he left office and how, after decades passed, people came to remember his many real accomplishments. Trudeau can look forward to that reassessment in the distant future, but at the moment, he looks like a guy who didn’t know when to stop, which has put the country in peril.

by Anonymousreply 143January 9, 2025 2:17 PM

The election of Donald Trump, with his tariff threats and annexation jokes, requires a firm response. Trudeau has not been able to provide that, and he is so unpopular that most Canadians would not support him if he offered it.

Now he must serve for three more months as an unpopular lame-duck prime minister while his would-be replacements awkwardly try to distance themselves from his legacy, Pierre Poilievre howls for a “carbon tax election” and Trump and other right-wingers torment him.

Trudeau alone is responsible for creating this situation, and if it goes badly, that will be part of his legacy.

The best hope, for him, his party and the country, is that the race to replace him produces a competent leader, so that Pierre Poilievre will not win without being properly scrutinized and tested. But the hurried race to replace Trudeau, if it is not conducted carefully, could be a disaster, open to the foreign interference that Trudeau failed to counter effectively while prime minister.

Watching his obvious misery as he announced his resignation, it was possible to feel human sympathy for him, but his stubbornness in the face of the facts is what sticks out. We have a lot of other things to worry about because Justin Trudeau stuck around after it was obvious that Canadians no longer wanted to follow him.

by Anonymousreply 144January 9, 2025 2:17 PM

The Canadian government is drafting a list of retaliatory tariffs composed not just to strike back but targeted to cause economic and political pain, especially for Republicans. Yours is the bigger economy but after the trade deals both economies are deeply intertwined. And you can't underestimate the pain Canadians are willing to bear. If he just wants to fuck us, what have we got to lose? There are screws we can tighten too and if there's one thing American capitalists love more than America, it's capitalism.

China, Canada's major newspaper reports this morning, has indicated its interest in deepening economic ties with Canada. China.

There is early talk about Canada perusing membership in the European Union, as an option.

In 2023, Canadian exports to the U.S. totalled $594.5 billion CAD. In the top spot at $130.3 billion? Crude oil.

And while the world economy is decarbonizing it's not going to get done next year. Or in four years. Oil is still a hot commodity. Especially for China.

Canada has options against this economic attack and the mood here isn't acquiescent..

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by Anonymousreply 145January 9, 2025 2:38 PM

As a Canadian, this shit is so incredibly scary, and he isn’t going to stop for another four years. He will probably make “progress” on this issue over four years.

by Anonymousreply 146January 9, 2025 4:19 PM

As a Canadian, R146, I guess I always knew we were really allies and not friends but there is something shocking about this to me. Yes, we are separate countries but we used to share the mutual interests of alliance and geography. It never occurred to me there wouldn't be respect for us and lines that you wouldn't even joke about crossing. There are not. We can never forget the lessons we've learned in the last few weeks and God knows what lies ahead. The relationship is now, I think, changed for decades, if not permanently.

The only thing I've heard that gives me some comfort is he doesn't have four years, really. He has one to two. By the one year theory, he starts bearing in mind the midterms after the first year. In the two year theory he does as he chooses until the usual loss of one or both houses in the midterms. For the last two years he is lame duck, but this rests on the usual acknowledgement of the need to recalibrate to reflect the lessons of the midterms. Maybe they'll like what he does and it won't change in four or six or twenty years. Maybe we're heading somewhere none of us understand. I really don't know. I don't feel scared so much as nauseous. They chose him, the world pays. I cannot believe this shit is coming out of America.

by Anonymousreply 147January 9, 2025 4:40 PM
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