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I have a hard time imagining bodies after a plane crash

Anyone else here who can't wrap their heads around the fact that people get cut in half, decapitated, limbs torn off in plane crashes?

I know it's true because I've seen pictures and read autopsy reports, but it seems so surreal to me that a person could be alive one second, and cut in half the next. It's so unnatural. I'm not in denial or afraid of death, like if somebody dies falling off a ladder or of a brain bleed, I don't think twice about it. But when somebody has been damaged beyond recognition I just can't accept it as reality. I'm repulsed by the concept of dismemberment, especially bisection.

For example, I've been listening to Polish singer Anna Jantar a lot recently. She died over 40 years ago in a plane crash. According to reports, most of the people on board were cut in half by their seatbelts, and it took 8 days to find her body, so she must have been in bad condition. There's also a rumor her head was ripped off and her husband could only identify her by the rings on her fingers. Anyway, she was so pretty and charming when she sang, it's hard for me to watch her videos without thinking, "this girl got cut in half," it's just.......it doesn't sink in that this beautiful singing, smiling, dancing young woman was sliced in half. You know what I mean?

by Anonymousreply 116January 8, 2025 9:50 PM

Are you hoping for a response from someone that's been in a crash and been decapitated?

by Anonymousreply 1January 6, 2025 3:13 AM

“I’ve seen pictures…”

“I have a hard time imagining…!”

0/100

by Anonymousreply 2January 6, 2025 3:14 AM

Maybe find a new hobby to keep your brain busy

by Anonymousreply 3January 6, 2025 3:16 AM

So, quit imagining it. Easy.

by Anonymousreply 4January 6, 2025 3:17 AM

Just close your eyes and think of England.

by Anonymousreply 5January 6, 2025 3:17 AM

Stealth scat thread.

by Anonymousreply 6January 6, 2025 3:18 AM

Um, we're watching the Golden Globes right now, sunshine.

by Anonymousreply 7January 6, 2025 3:19 AM

R1 It’s a very humbling experience.

by Anonymousreply 8January 6, 2025 3:20 AM

Why would you bring this up here??

by Anonymousreply 9January 6, 2025 3:20 AM

If you’re eviscerated does that mean you shit your shirt instead of your pants?

by Anonymousreply 10January 6, 2025 3:20 AM

OP you think that's bad?

Just imagine being sucked into a plane engine, and coming out the other end ground up like hamburger.

by Anonymousreply 11January 6, 2025 3:45 AM

When singer Jenni Rivera was killed in an airplane crash some ghouls took pictures around the site and posted them online. Pieces of ripped flesh on the ground. Horrid.

The film "Society of the Snow" (2023) recreates the crash of Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571, and it depicts what can happen - legs snapping because of how one is seated, heads colliding into the window.

by Anonymousreply 12January 6, 2025 3:51 AM

The flight that fell over Pittsburgh, weren’t there body parts hanging from trees?

Just remember OP, the bulk of who you are, how you experience the world and how others experience you is not your body. Your body is like a scuba suit you need to put on to navigate life on earth and be seen. Who you are still exists without it. You’re still here, just not in your body.

And fortunately as it’s described by a lot off near death, and death experiences, before something traumatic happens to your physical body that leads to death, you disassociate, you step out of your body. You witness it, but don’t experience it.

by Anonymousreply 13January 6, 2025 4:37 AM

This thread is making me HORNY as HELL!

by Anonymousreply 14January 6, 2025 4:39 AM

Patsy Cline's headband was still attached to her scalp.

by Anonymousreply 15January 6, 2025 4:45 AM

Its hard to imagine sometimes how fragil the human body is in certain cases. But it is. Decapitation and cutting of limbs is nothing. Your body can literally explode or even vaporize in a matter of nano seconds, like in this case.

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by Anonymousreply 16January 6, 2025 4:52 AM

PS check under "Incidents and accidents".

by Anonymousreply 17January 6, 2025 4:54 AM

You're a barrel of laughs OP. If I hadn't had two glasses of wine I wouldn't even respond to your post. You want grizzly? JFK Jr, wife and her sister land splat, upside down in the water. Happy now?

by Anonymousreply 18January 6, 2025 5:00 AM

I don’t like seeing those things. Because once you see them, you can never unsee them.

That’s why I hate X now. Whatever algorithm I’ve fallen into shows me graphic stuff I can’t click off fast enough. I see people getting run over. People falling from buildings. Young girls bound and shot in the head. How is that even legal to show? It’s so upsetting.

It started as “real fights” somehow - which I hate too. But I didn’t do anything about it. That just led to videos of people getting killed. I hate it.

by Anonymousreply 19January 6, 2025 5:00 AM

"The flight that fell over Pittsburgh, weren’t there body parts hanging from trees?"

Yes, I accidentally clicked on a video I would have preferred not to have about that flight. They showed photographs. Won't even say what I saw but it was pretty damn ghastly. The only comfort is those deaths seem to be super fast and with little to no suffering

by Anonymousreply 20January 6, 2025 5:01 AM

R19 that happened to me with that poor woman on fire in the subway, and also the video inside the Azerbajin flight that crashed. Really did not ask to see that shit

by Anonymousreply 21January 6, 2025 5:04 AM

I no longer fly but I just know something out there will get me.

by Anonymousreply 22January 6, 2025 5:07 AM

Flying is about the safest thing you can do. If you’re ever in doubt, get a flight tracker app. Look at how many planes are flying at any given time - any given day. 1000s everyday. And when was the last US air tragedy? 9/11?

by Anonymousreply 23January 6, 2025 5:10 AM

[quote] And when was the last US air tragedy? 9/11?

Dear R23, there've been a few plane crashes since then. And that wasn't exactly a plane crash in the accidental sense.

by Anonymousreply 24January 6, 2025 5:21 AM

OP, I interviewed cops who responded to a crash site in Milwaukee. A Midwest Express jetliner crashed into a hillside shortly after takeoff, it barely made it off the runway. They described crushed bodies embedded into upholstery and metal, sometimes two or three welded /melted together. For years afterwards, people with metal detectors would scour that hillside looking for jewelry and coins. I passed it recently and you'd never know it was the site of a terrible tragedy.

by Anonymousreply 25January 6, 2025 8:01 AM

I was working at the UCLA ER during the Cerritos Aeromexico crash and some of the doctors and nurses who were helicoptered there from the ER quit their professions after what they saw, not just the plane passengers but the ground victims as well. I heard some of the carnage stories and they were hard to imagine. Body parts were falling off trees for days.

by Anonymousreply 26January 6, 2025 8:08 AM

I've been told strawberry jam is similar to a few of the instances some here are pondering.

by Anonymousreply 27January 6, 2025 8:10 AM

R24 - in the United States, or with an American carrier? That was my point. The two biggest I see (49 and 50 people killed) oddly enough happened on the ground.

by Anonymousreply 28January 6, 2025 8:47 AM

Is it true most people get cut in half by seatbelts in plane crashes?

by Anonymousreply 29January 6, 2025 10:21 AM

I mean...this is kind of a good thing, right? Why wouldn't you? Unless you're into that

by Anonymousreply 30January 6, 2025 10:25 AM

screaming hamburger mixed with long broken bones on fire , with daughters crying out their name

meditate on that, OP

by Anonymousreply 31January 6, 2025 10:28 AM

Well they never found John Denvers' head if that interests you.

by Anonymousreply 32January 6, 2025 11:41 AM

I've always wondered how far out from the towers body parts were expelled during 9/11 all over the streets of NYC. I never read anything about that.

by Anonymousreply 33January 6, 2025 11:56 AM

r33 I remember they were finding body parts a good five years after in different place.

by Anonymousreply 34January 6, 2025 12:06 PM

R34 I looked it up and debris from 9/11 traveled as far as 44 miles away. That's wild.

by Anonymousreply 35January 6, 2025 12:09 PM

R32 wow, I’ve never heard that before.

by Anonymousreply 36January 6, 2025 1:33 PM

Have you never used a food processor?

by Anonymousreply 37January 6, 2025 1:37 PM

I've seen images of plane crash victims before they were removed from the wreckage. I just have to hope death comes fast for people who die like that. The bodies still strapped into seats are particularly gruesome. A very close friend of my family and her daughter were on the ValueJet flight that crashed into the Everglades back in '96. If I remember correctly not one identifiable shred of their (or anyone else's) bodies were found.

by Anonymousreply 38January 6, 2025 1:45 PM

I’m much more astounded when a plane crash has any survivors.

by Anonymousreply 39January 6, 2025 1:48 PM

So don’t.

by Anonymousreply 40January 6, 2025 2:34 PM

There are photos out there from 9/11 with pieces of victims on the street from (likely Flight 11) Just pieces of organs and viscera. Those folks were traveling at 400 miles per hour and death was instant.

I saw for the first time a photo I had never seen before- of a man's arm.. It was hairy and looked like it could be on an "alive" body. Just an arm.. Very sad.

From what I know, Swissair 111, that one in Indiana in 1994, and USAir 427 in Pittsburgh were two of the most vicious crashed in terms of dismembement and gore/devastation. I have read some books on both.. TWA 800 was no picnic either but many of those bodies were more intact because it exploded in mid air- Those have more "flat" type injuries vs an airline diving 400 miles per hour into the ground or ocean...

I actually know that Air Midwest one from above that the person interviewed folks from-- The CVR has the stewardess giving commands until the very end- "HEADS DOWN! ect" I found that very moving and commendable as the plane was diving into the forest below. It even hit a deer :(

by Anonymousreply 41January 6, 2025 2:44 PM

^^ Sorry I mean three of the most vicious crashes^^ among my other mistakes/typos

by Anonymousreply 42January 6, 2025 2:48 PM

You need help, OP. Lots and lots AND LOTS of help.

by Anonymousreply 43January 6, 2025 2:50 PM

Don't think about it. Think about something else, like boat travel. Maybe the Titanic.

by Anonymousreply 44January 6, 2025 4:25 PM

And I meant "flail" type injuries for TWA 800...

by Anonymousreply 45January 6, 2025 4:27 PM

If you are decapitated do you have an instant or more where you still get a chance to observe what is going on?

by Anonymousreply 46January 6, 2025 4:39 PM

JFK Jr.'s plane engine was stopped cold by the impact with the water and his body passed through it. Repeat: JFK Jr's body passed through the engine. They did not find much of him.

by Anonymousreply 47January 6, 2025 4:44 PM

^ Shit, that’s a novel way to lose your good looks.

by Anonymousreply 48January 6, 2025 4:47 PM

"They never found John Denver's head."

"JFK Jr.'s body went right through the engine."

Lies.

How would you people even know this?

The only ones privy to this information would be the investigators. That's it.

And it's not like they would detail any of this in an official report.

You people are just being gory and sensationalist.

by Anonymousreply 49January 6, 2025 4:47 PM

r49 has wandered out of the memory care center and is lost on a pointless birtchery gay gossip site - looking for facts!

by Anonymousreply 50January 6, 2025 4:52 PM

OP probably still has a VHS copy of of Faces of Death that he used to fap off to.

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by Anonymousreply 51January 6, 2025 4:52 PM

R46, I read that during the French revolution some of the decapitated heads would blink, look around and mouths would move for a brief second after being separated from the spine.

by Anonymousreply 52January 6, 2025 4:53 PM

I'd imagine the only thing worse than dying in a plane crash is surviving one. How do you EVER move past trauma that all-encompassing?

by Anonymousreply 53January 6, 2025 4:53 PM

I remember seeing pictures of a plane crash in Indianapolis. Someone’s leg crashed into the side of a mobile home. It was so morbid and oddly silly. It wasn’t gross, just a disconnected leg laying on the ground. I wonder if there was anyone home who heard the loud roaring sound, explosion, the soft patter of debris and the plunk of a random leg.

On the other end of that is the Turkish Air DC-10 crash in France…horrid. Where do you even begin?

by Anonymousreply 54January 6, 2025 4:54 PM

Turkish air crash in France?

by Anonymousreply 55January 6, 2025 4:57 PM

JFK Jr's nutsac and one testicle were found washed ashore near Martha's Vineyard.

by Anonymousreply 56January 6, 2025 4:57 PM

[quote]JFK Jr's nutsac and one testicle were found washed ashore near Martha's Vineyard.

I heard that Carolyn Bessette always carried them in her purse. The crash must have opened the clutch.

by Anonymousreply 57January 6, 2025 5:02 PM

R55 This one.

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by Anonymousreply 58January 6, 2025 5:03 PM

[quote] I'd imagine the only thing worse than dying in a plane crash is surviving one. How do you EVER move past trauma that all-encompassing?

Vesna Vulović (Serbian Cyrillic: Весна Вуловић, pronounced [ʋêsna ʋûːloʋitɕ]; 3 January 1950 – 23 December 2016) was a Serbian flight attendant who survived the highest fall without a parachute: 33,338 feet.

She was the sole survivor after an explosion tore through the baggage compartment of JAT Flight 367 on 26 January 1972, causing it to crash near Srbská Kamenice, Czechoslovakia (now part of the Czech Republic). Air safety investigators attributed the explosion to a briefcase bomb. The Yugoslav authorities suspected that émigré Croatian nationalists were to blame, but no one was ever arrested.

Following the bombing, Vulović spent days in a coma and was hospitalized for several months. She suffered a fractured skull, three broken vertebrae, broken legs, broken ribs, and a fractured pelvis. These injuries resulted in her being temporarily paralyzed from the waist down. Vulović made an almost complete recovery but continued to walk with a limp. She had little to no memory of the incident and had no qualms about flying in the aftermath of the crash.

Despite her willingness to resume work as a flight attendant, Jat Airways (JAT) gave her a desk job negotiating freight contracts, feeling her presence on flights would attract too much publicity. Vulović became a celebrity in Yugoslavia and was deemed a national hero.

Vulović told reporters that she did not think of her fall every day, but admitted to struggling with survivor's guilt. "Whenever I think of the accident, I have a prevailing, grave feeling of guilt for surviving it and I cry ... Then I think maybe I should not have survived at all." Vulović declined therapy to help cope with her experiences and instead turned to religion, becoming a devout Orthodox Christian. She stated that her ordeal had turned her into an optimist. "If you can survive what I survived," she said, "you can survive anything."

In the last years of her life, Vulović lived on a pension of €300 per month in her Belgrade apartment. "I don't know what to say when people say I was lucky," she remarked. "Life is so hard today."

Vulović lamented that her mother and father might not have died prematurely had she not been aboard Flight 367, stating that the incident not only ruined her life but also those of her parents. She only occasionally granted interviews and declined numerous requests, most notably from Oprah Winfrey and the BBC, saying that she was "tired" of discussing her fall.

By the time she had reached her sixties, Vulović's deteriorating health prevented her from taking part in annual commemorations at Srbská Kamenice, which she had previously attended for many years.

In December 2016, Vulović's friends became concerned for her well-being after she abruptly stopped answering telephone calls. On 23 December, locksmiths discovered her body in her apartment after forcing open the door. Vulović's friends said that she had struggled with heart ailments in the years leading up to her death.

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by Anonymousreply 59January 6, 2025 5:05 PM

R58 77 seconds from the door blowing off to impact.

The only bodies that were recognizable were 6 from Japan all found in their seats in a turnip field. It must have been one hell of a ride from business class to turnip field.

The tip off this plane was trouble —-there was a rugby team on board.

by Anonymousreply 60January 6, 2025 5:13 PM

Why would you want to imagine such a thing, OP? I can't bring myself to read this thread.

by Anonymousreply 61January 6, 2025 5:16 PM

[quote] Flight 367 departed from Copenhagen Airport at 3:15 p.m. At 4:01 p.m., an explosion tore through the DC-9's baggage compartment. The explosion caused the aircraft to break apart over the then-Czechoslovak village of Srbská Kamenice.

[quote] Vulović was the only survivor of the 28 passengers and crew. She was discovered by villager Bruno Honke, who heard her screaming amid the wreckage. Her turquoise uniform was covered in blood and her stiletto heels had been torn off by the force of the impact. Honke had been a medic during the Second World War and was able to keep Vulović alive until rescuers arrived.

[quote] Air safety investigators attributed Vulović's survival to her being trapped by a food trolley in the DC-9's fuselage as it broke away from the rest of the aircraft and plummeted towards the ground.

[quote] When the cabin depressurized, the passengers and other flight crew were blown out of the aircraft and fell to their deaths.

[quote] Investigators believed that the fuselage, with Vulović pinned inside, landed at an angle in a heavily wooded and snow-covered mountainside, which cushioned the impact.

[quote] Vulović's physicians concluded that her history of low blood pressure caused her to pass out quickly after the cabin depressurized and kept her heart from bursting on impact. Vulović said that she was aware of her low blood pressure before applying to become a flight attendant and knew that it would result in her failing her medical examination, but she drank an excessive amount of coffee beforehand and was accepted.

What an absolutely WILD fucking series of coincidences that led to her surviving that crash

by Anonymousreply 62January 6, 2025 5:17 PM

R59 She sure lucked out with the amnesia. Can't imagine there'd be enough drugs in the world to make yourself forget those screams and images otherwise.

Like, those photographs are traumatizing enough--can you imagine clawing your way through piles of limbs and entrails and burning torsos?

by Anonymousreply 63January 6, 2025 5:51 PM

OP when is your next flight?

by Anonymousreply 64January 6, 2025 5:54 PM

Carole Lombard was identified by "a wisp of blond hair" on her charred decapitated head. Imagine that.

by Anonymousreply 65January 6, 2025 6:58 PM

It’s not the crash it’s not the being cut in half it’s the 77 seconds you spend waiting.

by Anonymousreply 66January 6, 2025 7:00 PM

"I remember seeing pictures of a plane crash in Indianapolis. Someone’s leg crashed into the side of a mobile home."

"We are not covering that." Allstate Homeowners Insurance

by Anonymousreply 67January 6, 2025 7:14 PM

[quote] "We are not covering that." Allstate Homeowners Insurance

BANG!

BANG!

BANG!

by Anonymousreply 68January 6, 2025 7:15 PM

What kind of psychological support do first responders get? This must be deeply traumatizing. And the cleanup crew…

by Anonymousreply 69January 6, 2025 7:17 PM

R69- One of the Swissair first responders committed suicide.. They do assign psychologists to some crashes, as well as clergy..

by Anonymousreply 70January 6, 2025 7:28 PM

Is OP the I can't imagine Johnny Depp having sex guy?

by Anonymousreply 71January 6, 2025 7:40 PM

Does rotten.com still exist? (I'm not looking)

If so, I'm pretty sure you'd be able to fixate on your morbid preoccupation there.

by Anonymousreply 72January 6, 2025 7:50 PM

Didn’t think it was possible-someone sicker than me. What a relief

by Anonymousreply 73January 6, 2025 7:54 PM

R66 yeah I get more anxiety looking at aeroplanes about to go down thinking of the poor peopke suffering inside it than I do looking at bodies/body parts, though I pass on botj if I have to.

by Anonymousreply 74January 6, 2025 8:52 PM

r46 r52 It was found, or asserted, that the heads could be still functioning and cognizant for up to something like 13 seconds.

by Anonymousreply 75January 6, 2025 9:36 PM

r71 how did you know?

by Anonymousreply 76January 6, 2025 10:09 PM

R20 here, actually the video with the body parts I saw was PSA Flight 182....the one Lindsay Wanger was scheduled to be on before having a premonition and canceling . Gruesome stuff.

by Anonymousreply 77January 6, 2025 10:32 PM

Actually, duh, the one with the LW story was flight AA191. I got my late 70s plane crashes mixed up

by Anonymousreply 78January 6, 2025 10:35 PM

Air Crash Investigation aka Mayday is like porn to me.

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by Anonymousreply 79January 6, 2025 10:40 PM

I used to be pretty chill about flying. That series killed that fast, R79.

by Anonymousreply 80January 6, 2025 10:46 PM

I find pprune.org fascinating and strangely comforting.

by Anonymousreply 81January 6, 2025 10:50 PM

[quote] I'm not in denial or afraid of death, like if somebody dies falling off a ladder or of a brain bleed

I've lost half my family due to senseless ladder falls.

by Anonymousreply 82January 6, 2025 10:54 PM

OP has too much time on their hands.

by Anonymousreply 83January 6, 2025 11:26 PM

"her stiletto heels had been torn off by the force of the impact"

Oh the absolute horror of stiletto heels being torn off your shoes. The horror!

by Anonymousreply 84January 6, 2025 11:29 PM

As a kid in Brazil I remember seeing photos of a freeway collapse in which it squished 48 people, I was so freaked out by it

Quote/On November 20, 1971, a tragic incident occurred in Rio de Janeiro when the "Elevado Engenheiro Freyssinet," an overpass under construction, collapsed onto Paulo de Frontin Avenue. This disaster resulted in the deaths of 48 people and left many others injured. The overpass was later reconstructed and became part of the Linha Vermelha expressway.

This event is considered one of the most significant construction accidents in Brazil's history. It led to increased scrutiny of construction practices and prompted changes aimed at improving safety standards within the Brazilian heavy construction industry.

The collapse had a profound impact on the community, highlighting the importance of rigorous safety measures in construction projects to prevent such tragedies in the future.

I'm sure they're still photo somewhere on some archives of the incident - it was so gruesome.

by Anonymousreply 85January 6, 2025 11:30 PM

I’ve always had a hard time thinking of historical figures in the flesh.

by Anonymousreply 86January 6, 2025 11:46 PM

If you’re in a plain crash you probably have more pressing things to occupy your mind than bodies.

by Anonymousreply 87January 6, 2025 11:49 PM

As opposed to a more ornate crash

by Anonymousreply 88January 6, 2025 11:52 PM

There's a mini-series (Lockerbie: A Search for Truth) currently airing about the plane bombing over Lockerbie, Scotland in 1988. In the second episode the mother of one of the passengers details what happens in situations like that and wondered if her daughter expeirenced it, which is freefalling while unconscious, but as soon as she got low enough to the ground she would regain consciousness and have 15 seconds of conscious falling.

She counted out the fifteen seconds and fifteen seconds doesn't sound long until you relate it to falling through the air watching the ground getting closer.

by Anonymousreply 89January 7, 2025 12:08 AM

I once heard the audio from the cockpit of the Delta flight that crashed in Dallas at the airport due to bad winds many years back. The plane hit a car moving down a road (killed the driver I believe). But the audio was chilling. The cockpit crew were chit chatting with a flight attendant I believe and then the got hit by the wind and as they crashed the pilot and co-pilot were screaming like women. It must have been terrifying. I believe the cockpit crew lived but lots of people died.

by Anonymousreply 90January 7, 2025 12:20 AM

A friend of a friend was one of airmen involved in search and clean up after this crash. Could not bring himself to talk about it. He wasn't trained as a first responder or medic. He and some others were just picked for the task. He was either my age (21) or a couple of years older

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by Anonymousreply 91January 7, 2025 12:47 AM

As a law clerk for a US Attorney's Office back in the day, I met with an FBI agent who, in a wholly unrelated matter, had stopped to provide assistance on his commute that morning when he came upon a fatal traffic accident that featured a beheading. While I tried in vain to put on a brave face at his retelling, he spoke so matter-of-factly about picking up a severed head.

by Anonymousreply 92January 7, 2025 2:37 AM

This thread reads like the first draft of a January 20, 2025 inaugural address.

"Carnage II, the Sadist is Loose."

by Anonymousreply 93January 7, 2025 3:23 AM

The individual differences about tolerating such levels of carnage is incredible and fascinating, r92. He must have had a hugely dampened stress response either through exposure/desensitization or genetics.

There's a DL poster whose story I've read twice: on a morning commute, he witnessed a child on a bicycle getting struck by a car. His head and helmet were hanging by sinew. Traumatized and couldn't go to work. Such a thing would remain and troubled me for years. I'm not saying the FBI agent was untroubled, but his selection and training worked, I suppose.

Now that I think of it, human history has been filled with so much carnage, maybe us sensitive souls are an exception?

by Anonymousreply 94January 7, 2025 5:02 AM

BTW, this thread is filled with negative energy. Not the people, the subject matter. I suggest you not linger, dwell in it for too long, or you’re pretty much inviting it into your life.

Becoming desensitized to carnage is not something you want to do. It’s not a boundary you want to push. It’s why even butchers don’t serve in juries. You want to hold onto your humanity.

by Anonymousreply 95January 7, 2025 5:23 AM

Lucky for me, my third-grade teacher was kind of odd. She'd make us spend out ten minutes every morning imagining bodies after a plane crash. So I'm kind of expert at it. I can't imagine how embarrassing it must be for you, OP, to lack this ability. Just keep practicing!

by Anonymousreply 96January 7, 2025 5:38 AM

I recently watched a war movie where there was a scene of paratroopers landing. One parachute didn't open. One that opened got caught in a tree on the way down and the man hanged. One landed so hard his legs broke from the impact. One landed in a lake and he drowned. It was a crap shoot.

by Anonymousreply 97January 7, 2025 5:48 AM

I remembered one more detail. My FBI agent was casually eating his lunch as he recounted his commute that morning.

by Anonymousreply 98January 7, 2025 6:15 AM

As a young employee in the ER at UCLA I witness many, many gruesome scenes that included severed limbs and other body parts. At first you're shocked but you get used to it and build a kind of immunity to such things otherwise you wouldn't be able to function. To this day I'm not queasy when I see blood or severe wounds and I attribute it to that past experience.

by Anonymousreply 99January 7, 2025 7:39 AM

There are some things human beings are just not meant to see. I watched a YouTube video last night about a 19 year old kid (Brian Cohee) out in Colorado who unbeknownst to his parents had been dreaming of murdering someone for several months. Turns out he was ADHD, & level 1 autistic (in other words high functioning). One day as he was driving he noticed someone camped out under a bridge. He pulled down closer, took out a butcher knife, went over, found the old guy asleep, and started stabbing him. After 40 stags the old man was dead so Cohee proceeded to cut off his head, his arms & legs & remove his hands from the arms. He scattered the arms and legs all over the place under the bridge and drug the rest of the body to the river and dumped it in. He put the head and hands in plastic bags in his trunk and took them home and hid them in his bedroom closet. His mother found the head not long after and called the cops. The cops then found the hands as well.

You should watch the video just to see how calm and collected the kid is when talking about the murder.

They found him guilty last year and sentenced him to life w/o parole.

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by Anonymousreply 100January 7, 2025 11:06 AM

I worked at an international nonfiction cable channel for many years. One of my jobs was to determine if and how long tissue should be shown on the air (this was a “day in the life” hospital series). I think for one case, it was fatty tissue in an upper leg - think the patient was in a bike crash? And the answer was six seconds. Seems random but it was enough to tell the story but not be too dramatic.

Separately, I was also the first line in viewing incoming/unsolicited programming. One of the programs was still in its rough cut phase but followed first responders after a plane crash. This was back in 1999 and I still remember one man who had been incredibly traumatized at what he saw. It was heartbreaking.

by Anonymousreply 101January 7, 2025 12:59 PM

R95

Thank you. I read your post after posting mine so I’ll add this for a laugh: one of the unsolicited programs I had to vet was called “Urine Good Health” and it was a program touting the drinking of one’s own urine. Needless to say, we didn’t buy it.

As far as the plane crash/first responder program, it was produced as a manner of therapy for the responders. As Mister Rogers’ mom said, “Always look for the helpers” and it’s true. I believe that there are more good people than bad and that in crisis, most humans will drop everything to help another.

Maybe we could all do something positive for someone today to turn things around just a little bit.

by Anonymousreply 102January 7, 2025 1:04 PM

This is one OP I'd like to drop out of a plane.

by Anonymousreply 103January 7, 2025 2:03 PM

this girl was the only survivor of the 2018 plane accident that killed 112 people in havana. She was traveling with her husband and he died. now, according to this video she is married again, even though she is paralyzed and with burns scars. oh well, her husband deserves a prize for having the stomach he has.

many people said that they even saw passengers looking through the windows while the plane was falling. there are pictures on the internet where you can see bodies hanging on roofs and some completely charred. people began taking videos of the scene before the authorities arrived snd the videos where posted on the web. you could see the bodies still strapped to their seats scattered all over. then the saddest part was the videos their families took minutes before they boarded the plane, some where so happy and laughing with out knowing what was going to happen to them in just minutes.

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by Anonymousreply 104January 7, 2025 4:34 PM

The first major news event I recall is the Air Florida crash. We lived about 20 miles from DCA. It was snowing like crazy.

About a year later, we were living in Tennessee and flew back for my great-grandmother’s funeral. We were at National and of course I had a million questions about the crash. My father finally told me to can it.

by Anonymousreply 105January 8, 2025 1:48 AM

We are like 70% water so imagining us in different ways of death is not hard for me, but OP I was in a very bad car crash that killed my two friends (impact was well over 100mph), to put it into perspective my left leg felt like a liquid after having my femur fractured in two, my upper tibia was also gnarly, I felt like a soup with million of little glass shards in my skin.

You can sense death and if all of a sudden you get an overwhelming gut feeling, get ready for some real shit to come your way. only reason I survive was bracing for impact because my crazy ass friend was on a death mission.

by Anonymousreply 106January 8, 2025 3:23 AM

Are you still friends, R106?

Can you describe the crash, and what you all were doing before it happened?

It sounds insane!

by Anonymousreply 107January 8, 2025 3:37 AM

Something I think about on a random Tuesday night…

by Anonymousreply 108January 8, 2025 4:08 AM

R107 Both of them are dead, my best friend and my good friend, my best friend was an artsy type who was in love with my good friend who was a crazy hot head into fast cars. kinda of long but here's a bit of my story.

Happened on the capital beltway outer loop in Maryland a few miles before the bridge into Virginia were we lived. happened in 2007, we were coming back from dropping off a chick both of my friends we're friends with who attended the University of Maryland and one of her guy friends that was probably more into her than he let on and he was a party pooper the ride back and egged on my friend to show off the car speed which he did and went to like 150 mph at one point in a pretty straight point on the beltway.

We dropped them off and my friend was still riding that speed high from earlier and he sped wherever he could even residential areas and when we got back on the highway he started being a dumbass and he thought he could speed like earlier but a big ass curve was coming was going at like 120mph at one point, I try to get my best friend to calm his ass down but it was to no avail he was to infatuated with him to say anything and he was far more use to his driving since they were closer and he had been in like 2 or 3 prior wrecks with him, daddy paid for all 3 of his cars.

I knew his ass was going to crash like I said I got a terrible gut wrenching feeling earlier when we had the 5 of us in the car. Last thing I remember is knowing he was losing control and we were gonna crash, I remember several huge impacts and rolling around a few times but im sure it was over 10-15 times since he was going so fast, he crashed into a trailer that a couple were moving but had stopped in the shoulder and I think that it what probably killed them both. I remember bystanders coming to my aid and them cutting me out of my seatbelt, I called out to my two friends but they did not respond.

Like I said me and the driver were good friends but we butted hands at times due to his recklessness. I am very lucky but that hasn't helped with my mental health since prior to that I had more trauma in my life. As I get older I regret not fighting for a higher insurance pay out, I still have physical issues and a lot of chronic pain that showed up into my 30's.

by Anonymousreply 109January 8, 2025 4:13 AM

Wow that is a totally crazy story, R109!!!

I would have been freaking out if I was in a car where the driver was going that fast.

Probably would have screamed to let me off, immediately!

I'm sorry to hear about that terrible accident and the loss of your best friend and your injuries.

What a nightmare.

by Anonymousreply 110January 8, 2025 4:21 AM

If you look at fatal jet crashes, they are far less common now than they were thirty or forty years ago

by Anonymousreply 111January 8, 2025 4:25 AM

The China Airlines Flight 611 Boeing 747 that broke up into several pieces at 35,000 ft is way worse. Those poor passengers didn’t die immediately knowing they were falling to their death.

by Anonymousreply 112January 8, 2025 4:30 AM

That's the same as Pan Am flight 103 that exploded over Lockerbie, Scotland after a terrorist blew up a bomb on that plane.

It must have rained down body parts over a wide stretch of land.

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by Anonymousreply 113January 8, 2025 4:33 AM

Pan Am Flight 103 (PA103/PAA103) was a regularly scheduled Pan Am transatlantic flight from Frankfurt to Detroit via a stopover in London and another in New York City.

Shortly after 19:00 on 21 December 1988, while the Boeing 747 "Clipper Maid of the Seas" was in flight over the Scottish town of Lockerbie, it was destroyed by a bomb, killing all 243 passengers and 16 crew in what became known as the Lockerbie bombing. Large sections of the aircraft crashed in a residential street in Lockerbie, killing 11 residents. With a total of 270 fatalities, it is the deadliest terrorist attack in the history of the United Kingdom.

Here's a simulation....

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by Anonymousreply 114January 8, 2025 4:36 AM

The city of San Diego wasn’t prepared for the PSA crash in 1978 thar collided with a smaller plane killed everyone on both planes plus some on the ground. There wasn’t enough first responders so sailors stationed at the navy base and forensic students at one of the colleges were recruited to help in the aftermath. I think only 3 bodies were found intact and some poor woman was putting clothes up in her daughters bedroom and the torso of a flight attendant flew through window and landed on her.

The nw airlines crash in 1987 had one survivor, a 4 year old girl who lost her parents and younger brother. Her aunt and uncle allowed one photo of her post accident to be released and afterwards refused to allow requests for interviews and raised her. She finally agreed to an interview when she was around 30 and said she didn’t remember a thing.

by Anonymousreply 115January 8, 2025 4:50 AM

I think that the one that was most brutal for passengers was Alaska Airlines- 261, Mary schiavo got tears in her eyes when she described what those passengers went through-it was true hell on earth.

Those pilots were class and grace- Ted Thompson and Bill Tansky -

by Anonymousreply 116January 8, 2025 9:50 PM
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