Elon vows to destroy each and every Democrat in the House

Right. And all across America, voters will fall into line to do what Musk wants.

What a stupid, deluded dick he is. If anything, these candidates should use their inclusion on his hit list in their campaign ads.

Elmo is seriously overplaying his hand. An autistic, meglomaniacal cokehead who thinks he owns the world must learn the hard way.

Brains but no sense.

Money but no brains.

Brains? Only his dickriders think so

Why did they vote against the bill?

Primary them with fake Democrats, Elmo?

Meanwhile, Elon sullies this country with his zero personality spoiled rich kid bullshit..

Kill it with fire.

By 2026, the most effective attack ad in any Democratic primary, anywhere, will be "candidate X is endorsed and funded by Elmo Musk."

He’s become extra bold now that he’s using a human shield.

^^ The look says it all.

I wouldn't want to sit anywhere near him or get on his plane.

Oh, please.

Well, I guess I’ll never buy a Tesla now.

[quote]Right. And all across America, voters will fall into line to do what Musk wants.

You guys don't seem to realize in your "woke" bubble that Democrats are very unpopular right now and many Americans, who are moderate/conservative, view them as evil and degenerate for going far-left in recent years and becoming godless and unpatriotic in the process.

R16 Bull.

I vote to deport this Nazi Russian agent.

Is he against trans women of color?

Elon is a creep but I have no issue with sex offenders being deported.

[quote]...view them as evil and degenerate for going far-left in recent years and becoming godless and unpatriotic in the process. Oh, if only Democrats were actually godless instead of thinking they have to pander to Christians everywhere.

Democrats must protect immigrant sex offenders against this tech menace

Something absolutely has to be done about Musk. He's out of fucking control. He's also trolling elected politicians in Germany, France and the UK - including an extended and very rude trolling session with the British PM after personally using his platform Twitter to spread false information and conspiracy theories during the recent UK race riots and on top of that - he's meddling in their elections.

The only solution I can think of is a Guillotine. Maybe someone else has a better idea...

Guillotine was designed be non-painful. This asshole should be hung, drawn and quartered.

2 things:

1.) This is obvious substance abuse at this point. 2) Never over estimate the intelligence of the American public.

Be vigilant and good luck my friends.

You voted for Donald Jesus Trump. Again.

Yet you claim that you have zero problems with sex offenders being deported.

I don’t really care anymore

OP- Elon , that name reminds me of the ELOI from the Time Machine though Humpty Dumpty might be more of a Morlock type.

No Democrat should ever buy a Tesla. Lots of other options available now.

Rep. Jerry Nadler, a New York Democrat, said anyone who commits any crime of violence is already inadmissible and any immigrant convicted of an aggravated felony is already deportable.

"Sexual offenses and domestic violence are serious crimes, and if this bill fixed some gap in current law, I would have no problem supporting this legislation. But that is not the case here," Nadler said.

"In reality, the redundancies in this bill all but ensure that no additional dangerous individuals would face immigration consequences if it were to become law," he said. "Instead, the overly broad definition and lack of any waiver authority in this bill would result in extremely harsh and unintended consequences, including the removal of survivors of domestic violence."

There are more registered GOP than Dems today and before the election. The Dems are not the popular ones today. While the GOP continues to gain numbers. Will change and can change are not the same thing.

A multi billionaire who wants to spend billions to gut the Dem party is not a pipe dream. Especially when you control most of the media today, It’s not like you would have to flip 100% or 50% of the seats to be really successful.

11% of Americans self-identify as progressives.

Adding to the list, Musk has called for Britain’s King Charles to dissolve parliament.

Now he's telling England's King, for god sakes, what to do. They truly believe, him and the Orange Pumpkin, that they are the Kings of the world.

Problem is, I'm not sure that they aren't, in effect. We'll see if the rest of the world will treat him just as the obeying political power cult in the US is.

If you have examples of the PTB of other countries slicing and dicing him, please post them. Not mamby pamby "we don't agree"; I want to hear someone cut him down to size and let him know that he, the Orange Pumpkin, can go fuck himself.

Are you 12.

THe deMocrAts Are nOt tHe pOpulaR ones nO mOre.

Please shut up and worry about your own shithole country.

R32 you could look at the billionaires and major companies that had nothing to do with Trump in 2016 or even 2020 that are now showering him with blended knee , love, respect, and millions.

Countries will line up behind Trump because you would have to be an idiot to piss him off without a really good reason .

We the US are the Big Dog and Trump will be in charge.

11% of the US identify as progressives. So there is that.

r6 asks "Why did they vote against the bill?"... still waiting for an answer🤔...

The folks with money that can buy Teslas include a lot of Democrats. Musk is a fool to antagonize that group. My rich pal who owns a Tesla got rid of it and bought a Range Rover. He also said Tesla service is for shit.

I'm not into rape, magat.

If you want to bend over to offer diseased hole to the more popular ones, that's on you.

I'm not gonna bend over and take it from the likes of you.

You’re finally the most popular boy in school R34

R35. See R30.

R36s friend went from one error prone car to one of the all time worst in terms of reliability and expenses.

That sure showed Musk

he's revolting

They're like strong and more like popular so just like bend ova and like take it.

It's only like, three inches and like a total of like three seconds of like, non-pleasure.

Like you can't like fight like the like strong like ones.

MAGA voters don’t believe in climate change. Who else will buy electric cats but Dems. Just don’t buy a Tesla. However Biden was dumb not to invite Musk to the WH. Musk is another thin skinned baby who goes nuts when disrespected.

R16, there’s no tonic better than being the party in opposition to the party in compete control to improve your electoral prospects.

[quote]You guys don't seem to realize in your "woke" bubble that Democrats are very unpopular right now and many Americans, who are moderate/conservative, view them as evil and degenerate for going far-left in recent years and becoming godless and unpatriotic in the process.

r16 - I see you have been reading social media, especially Facebook--the militia pages are full of this dreck.

I have met people with unreasonable, inaccurate views of DEMOCRATS! who believe they are the root and cause of all evil. Let's look at what pro-Trump, pro-Musk, pro-RFK Jr wrote about Democrats in some texts or msgs - Minifestos as TPM.

Not a long read. Shared article.

Democrats are unpopular now but won’t be forever. They need to position themselves as anti rich guys/pro regular guys. That will be very easy once Repubs start slashing popular programs like Medicare to pay for more tax cuts of or the rich. Also we’re due for a recession and Trump looks like the kind of idiot who will bring it.

No one over the age of 12 uses the term popular in this context.

ESL failure. Again.

Give it two years. Dems will gallop back into power.

There was no need for this bill and likely had some poison pill in it that would help the GOP

I’m fine with gutting the Dem Party. This will allow more room for progressives to get elected

Elmo @R34, shouldn't you be sock puppetting on X?

The bill was sponsored and authored by the matte-faced bitch with the bathroom fixation Nancy Mace.

[quote] Elon is a creep but I have no issue with sex offenders being deported.

That’s why they always start with the “perverts.”

[quote] becoming godless and unpatriotic in the process.

Don't you have altar boys to molest? And, when you're done with that, shove a rusty crucifix up your prolapsed rectump, please.

So naitve born sex traffickers like Matt Gaetz aren't affected?

Elon is just rich, not immortal.

Apparently now he's just Tweeted that Nigel Farage "doesn't have what it takes" to lead the the right wing in the UK. It goes without saying he's all over the map but he's truly bizarre.

Honestly, come Jan 21, I'm going dark. I don't want to know. I know who I did vote for and will vote for and it's their job to do what they can until we can vote again. Knowing won't change anything. There are politicians in place to do what they can about it until sensible voters get their say.

My concern is even if we do swing back to normal, the fucking country won't really have learned a damn thing and this extreme nonsense is everybody's future.

Political parties do this all the time to embarrass the other side. They throw out a bill that ostensibly seems to take a moral stance on something but also has some things in it forcing the opposing party to vote against it.

Then they trumpet that the opposing party is immoral

R46 points out very accurately that the only hope the Dems have is for the trump gop to fuck up big time. And he might have added, if the gop does manage to barely hold serve , the Dems are fucked.

R58, did you sleep through the very unpopular Trump 1.0? Of course, Trump will fuck up big time. It’s in his DNA.

If anything, he'll fuck up even more. There won't be anyone with any relevant experience in his cabinet. Can you imagine what's going to happen if another global pandemic hits or if China decides to attack Taiwan?

R59 R60 from your lips to gods ears. But the data shows trump popularity going up from 2016 to 2020 then up again to the election in 2024 and then up some more since the election.

We were wrong about Biden and his chances, we were wrong about Harris, and Waltz, wrong about the 7 battle ground states, and the WH, the Senate, the House

Now two months later we tell people what will happen in the future,

Would rapists like Trump have been deported in this bill? If so, I'm all for it.

R2 Please do not disrespect Elmo who was a lovable, considerate, and empathetic creature.

[quote] And he might have added, if the gop does manage to barely hold serve , the Dems are fucked.

Not sure what you meant by "hold serve" but anyway it's routine for the party in power to lose seats in the midterms. It's actually kind of weird when you think about it, since it seems a lot of the same people that voted one way turn around and vote the other way every two years, but still it's a pattern.

And Elon will probably make that more likely. He just spent a month telling the great and good American people that we are all retards who can't do complex jobs and should just settle for shit jobs at shit wages. Clearly he doesn't mind letting his contempt for pretty much everyone show, and people might just get a little sick of that in the next two years.

You might want to consult an attorney, R62.

He needs Peter Thiel's Palantir to bring that about, but they are not in total lockstep.

r35 asked and answered above, TLDR version - they were already deporatable crimes, the bill added nothing to it other than it very open language that would possibly affect the victims of sexual assault.

GOP posturing.

Don't worry there is another pandemic coming under Trump's watch. People in China are dropping like flies from mysterious respiratory illnesses, hospitals are full to the brim and no one knows what is causing it. It should be a major shit show again.

R64 It's a tennis term.

[quote]Hold Serve also hold one's serve (in tennis and other racket sports) win a game in which one is serving

As in, if republicans win...

I still ain't gettin' the jab R68!

R68 Link?

R69 I did not mean if they win in 2028 but if trump or Vance finish the term not really unpopular. So many assume this admin will be a disaster. And they might likely be right. But that is not written yet.

And anyone who is betting hard earned needed money against Trump succeeding that person is a fool or has not been paying attention,

Trump may be someone that past history and what should happen just does not come into play.

Why not vote for this? Even if they are already deportable, why not vote for the bill? What's the problem?

Dems are terrible at PR; this looks like they sided with illegal rapists.

HMPV R71

I don’t really care anymore either, I’m going to just grey rock the next four years and hope for the best.

What a ridiculous claim.

Illegal immigrants arrested for felonies all serve time in prison in the United States, and are deported once they serve their sentence, unless sentenced to life without the possibility of parole, are sentenced to death, or die while incarcerated.

It depends how people evaluate success r72. My guess is they will at least partially succeed in deporting millions of people. They will be heavily focused on that, and at least some people around Trump will be hugely invested in making that happen. And his base will love it, at first. Later, when it sinks in that that's millions of people who were doing very cheap labor and accepting all kinds of shit to do it and now they're gone, the whole country might rethink things.

I'm assuming most of the people who slither into their cabinet posts will suck, but honestly I can't imagine them losing any votes for them. Most peopleseem to assume that Republicans will suck at actual governing, and may even prefer that, so I'm certainly not counting on a lot of people voting for the Democrat because some Education Secretary is a stupid asshole.

But there's always those few big Departments, like say the Pentagon, where the Defense Secretary is expected to not be a completely useless drunk fuckwad, and they might suffer if Hegseth actually gets in.

Fasten your seatbelts friends, this is no drill. All the rules we have lived by are out the window. There is no viable democratic party anymore. And Trump/Musk are running shit from Mar A Lago. The billionaires are all down there kissing the ring and corporations are taking a Trump positive messaging strategy. And he hasn't even been inaugurated yet. Any politician who doesn't get tougher on crime fast will be ruined. One way or another.

R78 you should be working for the DNC.

Its a brand new day like none of us have ever seen. We live in truly new and historic times.

Today's edition of The Guardian gushing over Elon Musk.

I guarantee NOT ONE of them gives a shit!

Tougher on crime? Crime went down under Biden and up under Trump

He needs to be deported. Why is MAGA supporting an immigrant’s interference in American politics?

[quote]Elon is a creep but I have no issue with sex offenders being deported.

They're not going to deport Trump!

Does Elon realize how well the Dems did last election? It seems not

Its time for a progressive to explain to Elon that despite losing the popular vote, the House, the White House, the Senate , and all 7 battleground states the Dem party is well, positioned and strong because we kept the final vote close.

That should scare the shit out of them all.

[quote]I’m fine with gutting the Dem Party. This will allow more room for progressives to get elected

So you're pretending that the totality of legislation signed by President Biden doesn't represent the most progressive pile of laws in a generation?

I'm equally aware that you are an idiot who has never followed simple current events and don't know this.

I see the resident contrarian troll R85 has joined the conversation.

Only an idiot thinks the Dems did well last election. R87

Nobody thinks the Dems did well last election. The question is whether this was some crushing, world-shaking, complete realignment. And when you see that Trump won by 1.5% of the vote, and the Republicans will come in with a 2 seat majority in the House, it begins to look like people shrieking about mandates and realignments are talking out of their ass.

R87 what lie was told though? 🤷‍♂️

And no I’m not r85

R89 maybe you see it differently but when I see the Dems I see an unwell pt who continues to bleed out and does not seem to be doing well. And does not appear to have a way to do well in the future.

Everyone understands that the vote was close and even that the split in congress is razor thin and things “could”go wrong quickly for the gop.

But only an idiot puts a happy face on a total 3-0 sweep of a loss. .

And right now more registered gop than Dems and that will climb until it stops,

[quote]maybe you see it differently but when I see the Dems I see an unwell pt who continues to bleed out and does not seem to be doing well. And does not appear to have a way to do well in the future.

Yes, I'm reminded of the crushing Mitt Romney loss of 2012, after which the RNC prepared an "autopsy report" calling for major changes to how the party addressed women and minorities, and several DLers proclaimed the GOP would never again win a national election.

R85

I can't tell; are you being facetious?

I hope you were. Because you are WAY off the reality.

If the Democrats ever get the presidency again, it will only be because the Republicans fuck it up royally. Much more than they usually fuck it up. That's what the USA does - elects Republicans to fuck everything up, and then elects Democrats to clean up the shit show.

And the Democrats are complicit in this dynamic.

But most of us aren't even sure a Democrat can ever get elected again. Legally. The Republicans have four more years to gerrymander, destroy voting rights, and everything else they LEGALLY and politically can do to affect elections.

The Democratic Party may be gone for good. We can't fix it until we admit it's broken and find some way to fix it. Otherwise we will forever be Lucy and the football.

We had our chance to fix what allowed trump to win last time and for whatever reason - or for many reasons - we were unable to do it.

And the 50% of the country that liked the last shit show enough to say "please sir can I have some more", well, maybe will want yet more. All these stupid and venal people aren't going anywhere soon.

At least non-voting Gen Z women won't be able to get any filthy abortions! It is also true democracy because that is what many voted (and stayed home) for!

The rights bestowed under Roe are not coming back soon, if ever.

[quote] [R32] you could look at the billionaires and major companies that had nothing to do with Trump in 2016 or even 2020 that are now showering him with blended knee , love, respect, and millions.

I do not believe that represents support as much as a recognition that he is a reality for the next four years. He will have less vocal opposition this time around. He will be his own undoing.

You're a fucking liar.

I'm R87, just pointing out this same troll that comes on every political thread to insist that Democrats lost in a huge way (which is not true) and that Trump and Republicans are all powerful because they control the House, Senate, and White House.

It's a tiresome shtick and it's almost like some Steven Miller fan boy type insisting how great and powerful Trump/MAGA are. Trump had no coattails in the down ballot elections. If you'd like to compare coattails and a mandate, look to Barack Obama in 2008-60 Senators and 257 in the House.

[quote]I'm [R87], just pointing out this same troll that comes on every political thread to insist that Democrats lost in a huge way (which is not true) and that Trump and Republicans are all powerful because they control the House, Senate, and White House.

You're going to be in for some big surprises during the next 2 years at least.

The CIA needs to deal with Musk. If you know what I mean.

R100 The CIA should have dealt with trump and they didn't. I'm guessing they are not as mysterious, directed, or powerful as people think.

Or, and this is scarier, they're on his side. The FBI is. Why not the CIA? How about the NSA, that did nothing to stop his use and possible sale of Top-Secret documents. I get they can't advertise the specific damage he's already done, but he wasn't stopped from using the missing documents, for example, to do further damage, or to stop his bartering of his knowledge and access.

Mr Musk, the Americans don't give a fuck what you say.

r71 link below - you have to look outside the us.

[Quote] So you're pretending that the totality of legislation signed by President Biden doesn't represent the most progressive pile of laws in a generation? I'm equally aware that you are an idiot who has never followed simple current events and don't know this.

I’m well aware of this and now it’s time to move the Dems in an even more progressive direction. Being “moderate” has gotten Dems nowhere

Dangerous bastard. WTF happened to him growing up in South Africa? He should go home and sort out the ANC.

What happened to him in South Africa was he never, never had sex or got any attention from a girl. Now we have to pay

R89 I generally agree with you but it’s just that every non political person I know is a Trump supporter. Some of them didn’t vote. When I ask them who they would have voted for, they say Trump. Trump should have been prosecuted by this AG. It’s sickening that he wasn’t.

The way this billionaire dipshit is going after elected politicians who protect sexual abuse criminals drives me crazy.

Fuck this hair transplant clown.

Of course Nancy Mace sponsored this bill. Here are some excerpts from Jerry Nadler’s explanation as to why Democrats oppose it:

[quote]This bill will do nothing to secure our border or fix our broken immigration system. It does not close any gaps or fix any loopholes in the law. It is purely a messaging bill and an attempt to score cheap political points.

[quote]H.R. 7909 purports to add new grounds of inadmissibility and deportability for “sexual offenses,” adds a new ground of inadmissibility for domestic violence and other related offenses, and expands the current ground for deportability for domestic violence.

[quote]If that were where the bill stopped, it would be almost entirely redundant to current law. Let me repeat: because all of the conduct described here already constitutes a deportable offense, this bill would ensure that no additional dangerous individuals would face immigration consequences. Zero.

[quote]But as has been the case in every one of the dozen or so immigration messaging bills we have considered so far, this sloppy, poorly conceived, poorly drafted legislation has far-reaching and unintended consequences. At least, I hope they were unintended.

[quote]Because this bill includes overly broad definitions and lacks any waiver authority, it threatens to sweep in far more people than it should, including the survivors of domestic violence.

Nancy Mace is quite performative. If she wants to put away sex offenders, maybe she should start with the male “friend” (whom she won’t identify) who allegedly assaulted her when they were teens.

R102 explaining exactly why this thread does not exist and does not have over 109 responses mostly from Americans,,

It's going to be fun watching them start falling one by one. just like the first go-round. so many of them will fall out of favor with Pres. Putridicus and start dropping.

As far as Elon Muskox is concerned, the Mob needs to deal with his ugly ass.

[quote] Fuck this hair transplant clown.

Don't forget his chin and jaw restructuring

So many comments bashing Musk and not addressing the topic of this post. Democrats voted to not deport violent sex offenders. WHY???

R113, it's been explained again and again.

R113 is a bot, R114. It can’t read other posts.

[quote] Of course Nancy Mace sponsored this bill. Here are some excerpts from Jerry Nadler’s explanation as to why Democrats oppose it:

Nadler could be telling the truth. On the other hand, every politician is going to have a voter-friendly explanation for every vote they cast and no politician is going to come out and say “We oppose deporting sex offenders.”

Your only post, r113?

And this will be quickly buried underneath all the shit that is going to happen over the next few months r116. Democrats cannot afford to be terrified of every shadow and sometimes are going to have to be just as forthright in calling out the GOP as they are in calling out Democrats.

This was the typical halfassed bullshit thrown together by a GOP cunt and Democrats treated it accordingly. And they can just say that and be done with it.

R116 Nadler IS telling the truth. Instead of “he may” this or “he may” that, get off your ass and start reading and doing your due diligence as a citizen.

“ Liberals for Trans Justice and supporting MtF trans in women’s sports”

“ Progressives for Tax payer funded sex changes for Federal prisoners”

A GOP billionaire who wanted to gut the Dems could spend his money in worst ways as a start..

[quote]Democrats cannot afford to be terrified of every shadow and sometimes are going to have to be just as forthright in calling out the GOP as they are in calling out Democrats.

R118 Exactly. Republicans bait the Democrats with flawed legislation on hot-button topics to make them look bad when they reject it, and now Elon’s blacklisting them so that his Republican benefactors gain more power in the House and Senate. Elon doesn’t care about sex offenders — he donated millions to one and is his right-hand man. All Elon cares about is his ego, tax breaks, and corporate deregulation.

Join with us as we become Americas #2 most popular Party

[quote] Republicans bait the Democrats with flawed legislation on hot-button topics to make them look bad when they reject it

It would have been better and certainly more accurate to state that both parties engage in that activity, to embarrass the other one.

To the low-info freaks shrieking about "progressives", you must quickly admit that the progressives you are talking about always find fresh reasons not to vote on election day. The legislative achievements are precisely zero and the only thing they get jazzed about is screaming "Death to moderate Democrats!" and getting Trump elected. Every bit of progress anywhere has been created and legislated by DEMOCRATS (and the voters who show up and vote) who actually make progress possible.

Time to grow up.

You can't identify any o fthese progressives who don't vote because progressives DO vote. Stop believing the lies peddled by the lackeys of billionaires.

How big will the street parties be when Musk has left this orbital plane?

Considering his alleged drug usage, it will hopefully be before too long.

There are many loathsome figures from the alt.right who’ve stirred up hatred against impoverished, vulnerable and marginalized people, but Elon’s the first to put his young children in the line of fire to protect his own ass from retribution, arguably making him the vilest one of them all.

[quote][R89] I generally agree with you but it’s just that every non political person I know is a Trump supporter. Some of them didn’t vote. When I ask them who they would have voted for, they say Trump. Trump should have been prosecuted by this AG. It’s sickening that he wasn’t.

Exactly. Trump has a lot of support from everyday Americans that the election results did not show.

And he's only gained more supporters since then. People are jumping on the bandwagon.

Burying your head in the sand and doubling down on far-left progressiveness is not the answer in a country where most people are moderate/conservative and religious.

"Woke" has become anathema to many Americans.

Progressives do vote.

I first read this as Ellen not Elon

[quote]"Woke" has become anathema to many Americans.

If that's true, and that's debatable, it's because there's a well-funded attack machine trained on it.

But since you're dispensing tough-love wisdom, how should the Dems fuck over trans people without making themselves look like craven assholes to the moderate voters who don't think trans issues matter that much? How far should they go to attract trans-haters? Will the trans-haters see Dems as fellow trans-haters or will they just hate them more because they're johnny-come-lately to trans-hate?

If the Dems are in favor of federal prisoners getting tax payer paid for sex change, anything that allows men born with a penis playing in competitive sports against those born female, anything that does not come down hard on protecting children

If any of this is even being debated about in 3 years within the dem party the Dems are so fucking screwed for 2028

No even more screwed

"They sully the Capitol building...."

MUSK DID NOT SAY THIS!! DID HE?!?!

Ya know, HE doesn't have a madman Vance in the wings, so I'm free to wish......

LIAR @ R31.

Brainless R132, Republicans don't need any actual issues (and with Kaitlyn Jenner and Jennifer Pritzker they are entirely responsible for trans coming to the fore). They simply make them up for fund a pretend progressive group (before NAMBLA collapsed all its members were police provocateurs trying to set eahc other up)

For r6, r30, and everyone else, scroll down to get the link to read the actual Bill.

It is disturbing how MANY "sources" show up to parrot Musk before one finds the actual Bill, by using Google Search for its #.

The Dems could loudly and repeatedly say the same thing as R132 and no one would hear them or believe them. Biden saved the Teamsters pension and the Teamsters voted for Trump. Actual actions don't matter.

The Democrats have to figure out how to communicate their real accomplishments as effectively as Trump spews his idiocy.

R137 Bob Casey in Pennsylvania also got voted out, after he fought for pension protections. Same with Sherrod Brown in Ohio.

Working class people that vote for Republicans need to learn the hard way that Republicans want them to work for $5 a day like in third world countries.

[quote]If the Dems are in favor of federal prisoners getting tax payer paid for sex change…

R132 That was in effect during Trump’s first administration, because transition care was and still is currently deemed medically necessary, so the actual issue is that Democrats are both pro-healthcare for federal prisoners AND believe gender transition to be healthcare. However, conservative pundits have compressed the two issues into one to fan the flames of hate. What Republicans are really against is transition medicine and surgeries for ALL transgender people, but they’re too cowardly to come out and say that, so they graft illegal immigrants and prisoners onto the issue to gain public support.

What about Ellen?

R137, And Obama saved Big Banking, hotbed of Democratic voters, haha.

[quote] Tougher on crime? Crime went down under Biden and up under Trump

The delusion is real. Fortunately, the public has spoken and won’t be gaslighted.

R139, working class people are living under third world conditions thanks to Soros-backed Democrats allowing rampant crime. There’s a little something called self preservation. Law abiding citizens have their lives at risk while Democrats back abolishing bail and allow repeat offenders back out onto the streets.

I eat old people's excrement!

r124 - Biden got 81 million votes in 2020, more than any other presidential candidate. Kamala got 75 million, Trump got 77 million.

6 million people did not show up. Trump got 74 million in 2020. He gained 3 million. Assuming those people voted for Bidne in 2020, 3 million did not show up for Democrats in 2024.

[quote]Democrats are both pro-healthcare for federal prisoners AND believe gender transition to be healthcare.

Well, they are half right!

Gender transition to be healthcare? Good Lord!

NOBODY "transitions" to anything! It is truly preposterous to even think so.

Wrong, r147! People can transition to mutilated humans!

R147 The point is that in order to ban trans “healthcare” for prisoners, it has to be banned for non-prisoners first, but the Republicans are not going for that angle because Americans currently have a degree of sympathy for transgender people who have not committed any crimes. That likely will change during the next 4 years, though.

Republicans object to the idea that transitioning is health care, not to the delivery of health care in general to prisoners.

Well, I'm sure a fair number of them object to providing any kind of health care, but the trans issue is separate in their minds.

The consensus is that Trump has Just six months to halve the price gas, eggs and offer up rent relief.

Then all hell will break loose with MAGA. The rest of use know better.

R150 JHC there is no evidence any groups are advocating that there be no health care for federal prisoners. That is beyond silly to suggest. QAnon

Harris made a strong statement about transition care for prisoners inc surgery one election then said just about nothing at all the next election, She sure did not clarify or refute.

She got clobbered over the trans statements she made by very effective ads, The gop not running those ads would have been political malpractice.

Those who think the trans issue did not hurt Dems are totally clueless.