Bird Flu Advisory

"Virologists around the world said they were flabbergasted by how poorly the United States was tracking the situation."

What an opportune time for the Trump clown car to take charge.

It’s a very bad time to be a cow or dairy farmer in the US for sure.

Why is this crossed out? Who's F&F-ing this? Fucking weird.

Just want to add I moved my settings to "delicate flower", which I think crosses out any post that gets a single F&F vote. It's revealed a great deal.

Interesting R4. I’m guessing that leaves very few posts visible?

I'd say about 15-20% of posts I see get crossed out, but about a fourth of them aren't trollery. I used to think it was Muriel telling us something, but now I think it's a bad actor spamming F&Fs to get people auto-banned.

Posting a receipt so prove I'm not trolling here. You can also check by moving the slider to "delicate flower" in your settings.

Nothing to worry about! Trump will be putting RFK Jr. on the case!

They want to poison you. They are ones who put all that chemical in East Palestime, dropped it in with balloons they used fron Chinese.

Bird flu will be our next President

SA is opinions like everywhere else, including social media. That ugly fag Piers and talking fist Morning Hoe want you to follow thier lies. Do not fall for it. They are not reporters.

The scientific American article is fine. This current situation is a complete shit-show for the dairy industry. And it is likely to worsen under the incoming “administration.” Personally, I wouldn’t give a platform to Rasmussen. And avian influenza has always been just a few genetic changes from becoming aerosolized in mammals. That is not new or specific to the current situation. Bird flu us spreading in cows because they don’t clean the milking equipment between animals not because it has become aerosolized. There have been only 60 cases in humans in the US; all from dairy or bird exposure. Most have resulted in conjunctivitis. Only one case has been serious and that was from keeping birds (chickens?) in the backyard.

A cull of Americans is on the horizon.

Thrilled you Virusphiles have your early X-Mass pressie!

Any self-respecting gay man knows to watch their viruses. Any who don't exposes themselves as a stupid cunt with a death wish.

Build a wall!

R15 Drag name: Faucina

Perhaps, but I take comfort in knowing who would die first and painfully.

As if my powerful heterosexual immune system could be defeated by an illness for chickens. OP must be wicked queer, kid.

[quote]now I think it's a bad actor

Just the one, dear?

It's not just one, but it only takes one.

Can they just get a flu shot?

It’s all because of Biden and the Democrats!!

As Covid raged and eventually wound down, Hubby and I discussed how the Trump (1.0) administration's initial lackadaisical response and refusal to treat the outbreak as a serious health risk (as opposed to the serious economic risk that they focused upon), followed by the Republican response to sacrifice old people to "save" the economy and generally stick their heads in the sand and instead focus on anti-vax bullshit/herd immunity/"it'll be over in a matter of days" left us open to another pandemic. Denialism never results in anything resembling a positive outcome.

We were so encouraged when Biden won and the adults entered the conversation, ready to swing into action and do the things necessary to detect and mitigate the spread. And we were dismayed that the country rebelled, turning common sense precautions into supposed government overreach, highlighted by how despite the virus emerging under Trump they blamed Democrats. We've seen it here on DL: posters repeatedly pointed out the fact that more people died from Covid under Biden than Trump. And it's true: Trump dumped the mess in Biden's lap and (after suborning insurrection) high-tailed it out of town, leaving the worst of the pandemic to the new administration.

And so it is shocking - yet completely understandable - that the Biden administration has done little to stop H1N1. They should have been on this like white on rice, but clearly, the country's new Republican majority would have seen any action from the administration as an attempt to both again over reach [italic]and[/italic] sway the election, giving the Republicans another opportunity to use Trump's piss-poor Covid response against the Democrats as they struggle to take the right and necessary actions to mitigate the spread.

Bottom line, as I read this [italic]Scientific America[/italic] (now there's an oxymoron if there ever was one) article, it's pretty clear we're headed toward another pandemic, and the mantra will be exactly what R23 just posted.

We. Are. Fucked.

‘’Decrease the surplus population’’

MAGA plan for getting rid of Dem’s

It might be a MAGA plan R26, but since the Democratic constituency is the educated elite and the MAGAts are the ones doing all the uneducated/low-skilled jobs (like, say, milking cows), it's going to hit them harder than Dems... Just like last time.

Just stop consuming dairy and don’t visit farms. No evidence yet of any person to person transmission.

Getting rid of Dem’s what? And who the fuck is Dem?

Dem's fools, R29.

r23 COVID was spread by TRUMP, OBAMA, BIDEN, CLINTON ALL OF THEM.

You skipped a BUSH there, honey chile.

It's killing cats, it's in mice, if it moves into pigs it will be in favorable conditions to mutate in ways that maximise harm to humans.

Don't visit farms

You do realize that this in not just in the farms don't you? Elder/senior lezzies also forget that it's in WILD birds now which means we all are exposed all the time, when will it make the jump human to human? It probably will.

And the fucking farmers in Texas waited years before they said anything, they wanted it to spread, fuck the farmers who all get subsidies just like the Chinese farmers.

It’s been in birds since 1924.

Except human-to-human transmission has in all likelihood happened, R28:

[quote]A switch flipped in September among experts who study pandemics as national security threats. A patient in Missouri had the bird flu, and no one knew why. “Evidence points to this being a one-off case,” Shah said at a briefing with journalists. About a month later, the agency revealed it was not.

[quote]Antibody tests found that a person who lived with the patient had been infected, too. The CDC didn’t know how the two had gotten the virus, and the possibility of human transmission couldn’t be ruled out.

I'm going to Costco to stock up on toilet paper, disinfectant and hand sanitizer now.

The Missouri household cases had GI symptoms, which would indicate they got it from something they ate or drank. Don’t think unpasteurized milk.

𝐈𝐭 𝐒𝐞𝐞𝐦𝐬 𝐋𝐢𝐤𝐞 𝐄𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐲𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝐈𝐧 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐖𝐨𝐫𝐥𝐝 𝐇𝐚𝐬 𝐀 𝐏𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐂𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡 𝐑𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭 𝐍𝐨𝐰: 𝐇𝐞𝐫𝐞'𝐬 𝐖𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐄𝐱𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐭𝐬 𝐀𝐫𝐞 𝐒𝐚𝐲𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐀𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐓𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐒𝐲𝐦𝐩𝐭𝐨𝐦

Seems alarmist, but I and most everyone I know has a persistent cough. I'm coping.

Since these cases aren't being cultured and identified, might it be bird flu?

Quite frankly, I think it's about damn time the birds got their revenge on humans. The chickens have come home to roost, indeed.

It appears that the probability is increasing daily, exponentially, that this could become an extinction-level event.

Farmers and ranchers are fine. They partake of the biggest part of “welfare” after no tax paying corporations.

If I'm reading correctly, it doesn't usually kill cows, but it does affect their milk production significantly. Birds are another story. Extremely high mortality rate. It will be hard to say until or unless it starts spreading from human to human whether we will be more like cows or more like chickens in our response to it.

R42 we don’t know how it would affect cattle if it were aerosolized in mammals. It isn’t spreading in all cows, only cows that are used for milk production because of the re-used milking equipment.

ElderLez, you seem to be downplaying this risk. Out of curiosity are/were you in healthcare?

I'm really worried about this. Maybe because I'm sick with a sinus infection, my husband has the persistent cough thing going around (for over a week now), and both of my dogs came down with Kennel Cough over the weekend. We're all doing fine, but Christmas is going to be punctuated by a lot of coughing, hacking and nasal mucus.

Regarding the Missouri case(s), I didn't see where the second patient had GI issues and the SA article didn't mention that. I hope — for humanity's sake — that he got it from consuming infected dairy and not just breathing the air in his home shared with the first patient. I seriously think another pandemic will break what's left of our democracy, and Trumusk will turn what could be and should have been contained into a mass culling event. There will not be another lockdown. No MAGAt will wear a mask or do a damn thing to mitigate the spread, and in fact, go around trying to infect as many as they can.

Here you go R44. Neither one had typical flu symptoms.

And here’s a very informative article in general about the current situation.

I don’t think I am downplaying the situation. Get your seasonal flu shot if you haven’t already, maybe ask your doctor for a prescription for Tamiflu to have on hand for peace of mind (it works against bird flu), write your congressperson and Senators about the importance of influenza surveillance and the creation of a universal flu vaccine and all the other important work NIAID funds.

Let’s save the fear for when the fear is actually called for.